Joe Rogan Experience #2100 - Steven Rinella & Cameron Hanes

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. SRSteven Rinella0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. CHCameron Hanes0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) You're good to go.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      All right. Steve Rinella, Cam Hanes, what's happening? Good to see you guys.

   4. SRSteven Rinella0:16

      Yeah, thanks for having me out, man.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      My pleasure. Cam, explain that ridiculous thing around your neck. (laughs)

   6. SRSteven Rinella0:21

      What? What are you talking about?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      (laughs)

   8. CHCameron Hanes0:24

      (claps) Oh, this?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      That thing.

   10. CHCameron Hanes0:26

       Oh. Oh.

   11. SRSteven Rinella0:26

       (laughs)

   12. CHCameron Hanes0:28

       What, what cam- where am I? What camera am I on?

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Uh, right there.

   14. CHCameron Hanes0:31

       Yeah. So this is, uh, how badass is this? Solid gold mold of-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       (laughs)

   16. CHCameron Hanes0:38

       ... this is my first brown bear I killed with Roy. So they made a mold off this claw. I had this just tanned hide laying around, I'm like, "I gotta, we gotta... I don't know, what's it gonna do, just lay there?" So I'm like, "I gotta have something." And I took it to Skee's jewe- jeweler, which has been in Eugene for 104 years, so it's kind of a cool little story. And they came up with this crazy necklace. So it's... Oh, they wanted me to tell you, it's, uh, it's r- re- uh, what is it? It's not d- not newly mined gold. It's-

   17. SRSteven Rinella1:10

       Recl- oh, reclaimed?

   18. CHCameron Hanes1:11

       Reclaimed, yeah. Yeah.

   19. SRSteven Rinella1:12

       Oh, okay.

   20. CHCameron Hanes1:13

       So they're not ruining the planet to get it.

   21. SRSteven Rinella1:14

       (laughs)

   22. CHCameron Hanes1:15

       So they wanted me to- this is, like, reclaimed gold. But it's solid, and then there's six carats of rubies on there and black diamonds, so.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       So the rubies, if- if people can't see it-

   24. CHCameron Hanes1:23

       If this is a ridiculous thing you're talking about-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       Yeah.

   26. CHCameron Hanes1:26

       ... yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       Okay.

   28. CHCameron Hanes1:26

       That was it.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:27

       Yeah. So the rubies, though-

   30. SRSteven Rinella1:28

       That's a lot of pawn shop wedding rings laid up in there, man.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   (laughs) …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      live near a fucking power line? Like, there's like-

   2. SRSteven Rinella15:03

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      ... there's so-

   4. SRSteven Rinella15:04

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      ... there's so many factors that lead you to ... If it was just, like, it ... I want to see a study on people who eat wild game or grass-fed beef and just fucking vegetables.

   6. SRSteven Rinella15:15

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      Like, are those studies ... Like, I bet those folks aren't getting, like, high instances of cancer.

   8. SRSteven Rinella15:20

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:20

      You know, cancer is, like, there's a lot of environmental factors. There's a lot of, a lot of genetic factors. There's a lot of things that lead people to get cancer. It's not just what you eat. But when they say meat, like, what else are you eating? Why are you blaming meat?

   10. SRSteven Rinella15:35

       Well, what I used to do is go to McDonald's. So yeah, it had red meat, 'cause in the burger, two plain hamburgers, large fry, apple pie, uh, Diet Coke, and a milkshake.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       (laughs)

   12. SRSteven Rinella15:49

       Just think about all the bullshit in there.

   13. So, yeah.

   14. And they're like, "Do you eat a lot of meat?" Uh-huh.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Yeah.

   16. SRSteven Rinella15:53

       Blame the meat.

   17. Right. And it was like, look at ... To, to your point, look at all that other shit-

   18. Yeah.

   19. ... sugar and carbs and-

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       Exactly.

   21. SRSteven Rinella16:00

       ... all that oil in that meal right there would probably kill you.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       Yeah.

   23. SRSteven Rinella16:04

       And some people, it's the same people going through McDonald's or Burger King or Wendy's-

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       Mm-hmm.

   25. SRSteven Rinella16:08

       ... every single day getting their go-to ... Yeah, so those are the people that you're asking about, "Do you eat red meat?"

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       Yeah.

   27. SRSteven Rinella16:14

       And of course they are, but look at all ... But yeah, I just got my blood test yesterday from my ... Get it tested every once in a while, and my numbers are phenomenal. I eat meat (laughs) five times a day.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       Yeah.

   29. SRSteven Rinella16:28

       I mean, I'm eating meat all day, all wild game meat, though. So- I found that people also have ... I was talking about this the other day with my buddy, Seth, where people also have a tendency to, um, find ... Th- they, they, there, there's so much conflicting dietary information that people also will find something that aligns with their aesthetic-

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:53

       Yeah.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah, that's him. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      and that's our Montana mule deer right there.

   2. CHCameron Hanes30:02

      Yeah, that's him.

   3. SRSteven Rinella30:02

      That's him.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      That's him. That's the one we shot.

   5. SRSteven Rinella30:03

      Someone lost the nose bones.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Oh, the ones out there?

   7. CHCameron Hanes30:07

      Yeah.

   8. SRSteven Rinella30:07

      Well, he's missing his too.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      Yeah.

   10. SRSteven Rinella30:09

       You need to shake Jamie down. He might have a pocket full of those nose bones. (laughs)

   11. CHCameron Hanes30:12

       I think they, I think they-

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:13

       (laughs)

   13. CHCameron Hanes30:13

       ... they boil it out too long. I think-

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       Is that what it is?

   15. CHCameron Hanes30:16

       Yeah.

   16. SRSteven Rinella30:16

       Yeah, yeah.

   17. CHCameron Hanes30:16

       I always glue, I always glue them back in. But anyways, sorry.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:19

       That guy is very special to me.

   19. SRSteven Rinella30:21

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       That guy's very special to me.

   21. CHCameron Hanes30:22

       First kill.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       And I remember when we were eating him over the fire-... I was re-sorting my schedule. I was like, "Okay, how many times a year can I hunt now?"

   23. CHCameron Hanes30:31

       (laughs)

   24. SRSteven Rinella30:31

       Okay, how much, how long is it gonna take to eat a, a deer-

   25. CHCameron Hanes30:33

       After the first, first time.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       Uh-huh, right away.

   27. CHCameron Hanes30:35

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:35

       Eating it over the fire, like right away.

   29. CHCameron Hanes30:38

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       I was like, "Oh, I'm doing this forever. This is what I do now."
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Right, you gotta sort…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

   2. SRSteven Rinella45:00

      Right, you gotta sort of put that out of your head, right?

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      Right.

   4. SRSteven Rinella45:02

      You're like, you don't-

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      Yes.

   6. SRSteven Rinella45:02

      ... be like, "Hang tight, let me get his interview."

   7. CHCameron Hanes45:05

      (laughs)

   8. SRSteven Rinella45:05

      "Then I'll come, let me get his autograph, then I'll come back and then I'll tackle him." (laughs)

   9. CHCameron Hanes45:09

      Yeah, like, uh, yeah, I mean the GOAT. You've heard how, you know, he's the best to ever do it.

   10. SRSteven Rinella45:13

       Yeah.

   11. CHCameron Hanes45:13

       And then all of a sudden, it's like almost like, you know, "I'm a big fan."

   12. SRSteven Rinella45:16

       (laughs)

   13. CHCameron Hanes45:16

       "Nice to meet you. Sorry for having to do this."

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:18

       But isn't that also the case with bow hunters, where like you've been hunting your whole life hoping to see a two, uh, 200-inch buck?

   15. SRSteven Rinella45:25

       Mm-hmm.

   16. CHCameron Hanes45:25

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:25

       And then one day you're in the mountains and this mule deer steps out. You're like, "Oh!"

   18. SRSteven Rinella45:30

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:30

       Like, "This is it!" As you're imagining taking the photo, smiling on Instagram. You imagine, you see this wide mule deer buck, like, "This is crazy. This is a real one. I can make this happen." You're like, "Er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er."

   20. CHCameron Hanes45:44

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       Everything is just full panic. I w-

   22. SRSteven Rinella45:46

       Cla- Clay Newcomb just did a Bear Grease episode about a guy, a, a poacher, and he interviews the guy at length, and this, this guy played softball on a army base. They had like a athletic complex. And a couple times he sees this giant buck, and the people were aware of this giant buck, and he was trying to figure out if it was possible to kill it, as he calls it, kill it right or kill it legal. And one day he just happens to have his bow in his car and sees it not anywhere he's supposed to hunt. And the way he describes it, he describes it like, he was out of his ma, out of his body, and he shoots it. And the minute it falls over, he thinks, "You'll never get away with this."

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:28

       Oh God.

   24. SRSteven Rinella46:29

       But he lo- not only like-

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       Where was he?

   26. SRSteven Rinella46:30

       ... not only lost... I can't... I think he was in Missouri. Yeah, Missouri.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:33

       So was he in the wrong unit, or was he on private land?

   28. SRSteven Rinella46:35

       No, he was on a milit- he was on a military base where you're not even s- you can't hunt.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:39

       Oh, wow.

   30. SRSteven Rinella46:40

       And not only like losing, not only losing your mind as you're drawing back, he lost his mind in the whole thing, getting his bow out of his thing.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:06:58

   I was living in…

   1. CHCameron Hanes1:00:00

   2. SRSteven Rinella1:00:00

      I was living in Seattle for a while, and there's, uh ... We would fish smallmouth and, and perch and stuff in this thing, Lake Washington, which is, like, right downtown. And there's this ... I was in this neighborhood where they have these apartment buildings that are on pilings. So there's just full-on apartment buildings out over the water, built on piers. And they would cast shadows and fish would collect there, and you'd (laughs) , you'd be in a boat, man. I mean, you're like, like ... Besides being out in some dude's front yard under their dock, you're fishing where you're (laughs) , you're ... Right here, I was looking into the window, you know, of someone eating breakfast.

   3. CHCameron Hanes1:00:38

      (laughs)

   4. SRSteven Rinella1:00:38

      But your (laughs) , your cast right there, which felt much more intimate and kind of creepy (laughs) .

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:43

      Yeah, that's weird.

   6. SRSteven Rinella1:00:45

      That, that felt weird. Way, l- weirder than, you know, like I said, where you got a house, then a yard, then a dock. Like, that's not weird, but you could get where you could basically, like, awkwardly wave at someone in their bathroom (laughs) -

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

      (laughs)

   8. CHCameron Hanes1:00:57

      Yeah.

   9. SRSteven Rinella1:00:57

      ... you know, while you're trying to fish (laughs) .

   10. CHCameron Hanes1:00:58

       Yeah, just don't make eye contact.

   11. SRSteven Rinella1:01:00

       (laughs)

   12. CHCameron Hanes1:01:00

       ... they're sitting there taking a shit, looking out the window.

   13. SRSteven Rinella1:01:03

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

       Yeah. The, the, the, the, the, the dock thing is a weird one, man. It's a weird one, because I, I get it if you're not a fisherman and you're just some asshole that just doesn't want anybody near your house.

   15. SRSteven Rinella1:01:14

       What they're going to tell you, what they always tell you, is that some guy's gonna take a lead head jig and chip the paint, chip the paint on the boat, ding the dock. Like, that's their claim.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:26

       Mm-hmm.

   17. CHCameron Hanes1:01:26

       Okay.

   18. SRSteven Rinella1:01:27

       Is that they're, they're gonna whack your, whack your stuff with a lead head jig.

   19. CHCameron Hanes1:01:31

       I feel like that's the same as if you're driving off-road, like, and you, you're worried about pebbles. "We gotta get these fucking pebbles out of here."

   20. SRSteven Rinella1:01:38

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:38

       (laughs)

   22. CHCameron Hanes1:01:38

       Like, it's your... You're driving off-road.

   23. SRSteven Rinella1:01:40

       Yeah, it'd be like-

   24. CHCameron Hanes1:01:41

       Yeah.

   25. SRSteven Rinella1:01:41

       ... "Well, don't put your stuff out over the public water."

   26. CHCameron Hanes1:01:44

       Yeah. And it... What are you doing?

   27. SRSteven Rinella1:01:45

       Yeah.

   28. CHCameron Hanes1:01:45

       It's... A boat's not a car, man. Like, it's a boat. It's supposed to get scratched up a little.

   29. SRSteven Rinella1:01:49

       Mm-hmm.

   30. CHCameron Hanes1:01:50

       Like, you don't want your boat scratched up a little? Like, what- Some people don't, no. What the fuck?

Episode duration: 3:25:28