Joe Rogan Experience #2106 - Kid Rock

Kid Rock is a musician, singer, rapper, and songwriter. His most recent album is "Bad Reputation." See him live on the "Rock the Country" festival tour. www.rockthecountry.com www.kidrock.com

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Jun 27, 20243h 27mWatch on YouTube ↗

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0:00 – 1:31
American Badass chain & Tom Petty weed-run story
1. NANarrator
  (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) I love that chain. What is that chain?
3. KRKid Rock
  It's, uh, (clears throat) it's my tattoo. It's my logo, American Badass.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  It's pretty badass. (laughs)
5. KRKid Rock
  (laughs) That sounds like stoner talk. (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  It is. It is stoner t- most of my conversations are stoner talk, like, high level.
7. KRKid Rock
  Dude, I used to be Tom Petty's weed dealer, in a sense. Like, he would come to town. He married a girl from, uh, Saginaw, Michigan. I forget her name. Great, great girl. And they would come to, you know, outside Detroit where I lived, and I'd get this call like, "Hey, can you get Tom some weed?" And I'd be like, "Fuck, I'll take him some weed." So I'd call some of my brother's friends to get some weed, and I'd be like, "This is fucking awesome," 'cause I love Tom Petty. I didn't really know him. So I'd go up there and drop the weed off, and I'd be in his dressing room and, like, he'd be like, "So what's up, man?" I'd be like, "Nothing." And I'm like, "We have nothing in common."
8. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
9. KRKid Rock
  This, this guy's so fucking high. And (clears throat) I might've been tuned up on a couple beers or something. (laughs)
10. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
11. KRKid Rock
  And I'm like, "Well, that sucked." (laughs)
12. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
13. KRKid Rock
  "So I guess I'll just enjoy the music." (laughs)
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Was this before or after you were doing music?
15. KRKid Rock
  Oh, this was when I was a big star.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, really?
17. KRKid Rock
  Oh, yeah.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  No shit.
19. KRKid Rock
  Yeah, I was all excited.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  And you're hanging with Tom Petty?
21. KRKid Rock
  Not really. I was just taking him weed.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Were you-
23. KRKid Rock
  Trying, trying to hang out with him.
1:31 – 3:06
Fentanyl deaths, opioids, and the “testing kit” wake-up call
1. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, that's how Tom Petty died.
2. KRKid Rock
  Oh.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Somebody got him some pills.
4. KRKid Rock
  Oh, it was the fentanyl?
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
6. KRKid Rock
  Oh, fuck, fuck, fuck.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, he, uh-
8. KRKid Rock
  That shit is...
9. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't remember what his i- his injury was but, uh, he was hurting and, uh, a roadie got him some fentanyl.
10. KRKid Rock
  Terrible.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
12. KRKid Rock
  Fucking-
13. JRJoe Rogan
  That's how Prince died too.
14. KRKid Rock
  Yeah, I remembered... I've heard that in the elevator.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, same thing, pain.
16. KRKid Rock
  I mean, we all know people that have...
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
18. KRKid Rock
  It's a travesty. Fucking unreal.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  It's a horrible thing.
20. KRKid Rock
  Well, let's just go right at the border. (laughs)
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Well, it's the border, but it's also the f- the opioid crisis there created by the Sackler family. I mean, those motherfuckers just got, uh, a giant percentage of the population hooked on heroin. It's some evil shit, man.
22. KRKid Rock
  It's fucking evil.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Those fucking people are still running around too.
24. KRKid Rock
  Yeah, in case you were ever thinking about quitting drugs, fentanyl should seal the deal.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
26. KRKid Rock
  That should seal the deal.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
28. KRKid Rock
  I know a lot of people it has. They were like, "You know, I was still an experimental cocaine user," this, that, and the other. They were like, "When that shit came up, that was it." It's like, you get, you know, I had some friends tell me they were gonna buy a testing kit, this, that, and the other. I was like, "Yeah, that's probably time to-"
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
30. KRKid Rock
  "... time to move on."
3:06 – 5:53
Rock-and-roll partying, weed differences, and Kid Rock’s tequila rule
1. KRKid Rock
  Mm, I had a good run. (laughs)
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
3. KRKid Rock
  I didn't have too many problems. (laughs) You know, in the, in the older days when, you know, it was kinda just following the handbook of rock and roll.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
5. KRKid Rock
  It's like, you know, chapter 14, get some blow. (laughs) Blah, blah, blah.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7. KRKid Rock
  We, we had fun. Nobody... I've seen people get all fucked up and lose their minds on it, but I know quite a few people in my position like, "Okay, we had some fun when we were younger, and, you know, at some point," you know, kind of a weekend warrior type thing.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
9. KRKid Rock
  Don't let it interfere with business and engagements and things you have to do. I can't say I, I was batting 1,000, but pretty good average.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  You did pretty good.
11. KRKid Rock
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Considering it, it all worked out pretty well.
13. KRKid Rock
  I- I'm not advocating for it (laughs) at any level. I'm just-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) I don't think anybody is.
15. KRKid Rock
  That's, that's my honest experience. Like, hey, you know, I came out okay.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  That's the thing. There's people that'll tell you they're weed advocates. There's n- there's no, like, coke advocates. There's no people, they're like, "Coke fixed my life." (laughs)
17. KRKid Rock
  (laughs)
18. JRJoe Rogan
  "I never got anything done. All of a sudden, I was doing coke and starting businesses."
19. KRKid Rock
  Is weed fixing lives?
20. JRJoe Rogan
  We can fix people.
21. KRKid Rock
  (laughs)
22. JRJoe Rogan
  It depends on who you are.
23. KRKid Rock
  I'd know if you're sick and-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, for a guy like me-
25. KRKid Rock
  ... you're this shit.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  ... weed's a good drug. A guy like me, weed just like (exhales) ch- chills you down.
27. KRKid Rock
  See, my brother's a huge weed smoker.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
29. KRKid Rock
  And I'm always... And he'll always be, like, you know, off golfing or some shit, and I'm drinking my beers, having my fun. I'm always like, you know, "You drive." And I'm always like, "Maybe you fucking shouldn't be driving." He's just fucking stoned out of his mind sometimes and I'm like, "Yeah, I don't like this."
30. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5:53 – 8:00
Fox News doom, culture shifts, and RFK Jr. ‘un-gayed’ joke
1. KRKid Rock
  You don't wanna be, like, you know, all worked up, you know, after watch Fox News for six hours and just fucking... (laughs)
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
3. KRKid Rock
  ... ready to fucking, you know, Slay the Beast and start pounding whiskey and go to the club. (laughs)
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Dude, if you watch Fox News for too long, you will think it's the end of the world.
5. KRKid Rock
  Oh, I do, and it is. (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  It might be. It really might be.Did you see the fucking Tim Dillon thing that I posted yesterday?
7. NANarrator
  Yes.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  It's legit.
9. NANarrator
  Yeah, no, it was ... It's not brand new-
10. KRKid Rock
  Is that the gay comedian?
11. NANarrator
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
13. KRKid Rock
  He's fucking great.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  He's hilarious. But, uh, he, he wrote, uh, he had a picture with a girl. He said, "I'm getting married. The homosexuality thing was, uh, just a phase." And R- RFK Jr. writes to him, uh, "She's a beautiful lady. I can see how she un-gayed you, Tim."
15. KRKid Rock
  (laughs)
16. JRJoe Rogan
  The guy's running for president.
17. KRKid Rock
  Fucking great.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Amazing.
19. KRKid Rock
  It's awesome.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  In that sense, it's an amazing time.
21. KRKid Rock
  He don't scare me.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  No, he shouldn't scare you, actually.
23. KRKid Rock
  He doesn't scare me.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  He should do the opposite of scare you.
25. KRKid Rock
  Yeah.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  It should scare you, the opposition to him. 'Cause if people listen to what he says and you pay attention to what he says, and you actually research what he says, he's telling the truth.
27. KRKid Rock
  Mm-hmm.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  He just ... We've been fucked over and lied to for so long that he seems like a crazy person. Look at that. (laughs) "She's a beautiful angel, Tim."
29. KRKid Rock
  (laughs)
30. JRJoe Rogan
  "He see how she un-gayed you."
8:00 – 10:18
Discipline vs. chaos: martial arts, comedy, athletes, and post-service purpose
1. JRJoe Rogan
  I, I lived a fucked up life. Not, not fucked up, but just my high school years was all martial arts. It was all from the time I was, like, 15 'til I was 21. All I did is train and compete.
2. KRKid Rock
  It's a lot of discipline.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, a lot of obsession. A lot of discipline and obsession. But it was, uh, very weird socially. Like, so I went from that to being a standup comedian, which is, like, the complete opposite ends of the spectrum. Hanging out with maniacs who were doing drugs and staying up all night. Just complete polar opposite. So I missed a lot of stuff.
4. KRKid Rock
  Ah, you got a lot of money now, you can make up for it, right?
5. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
6. KRKid Rock
  Fast track it. (laughs)
7. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
8. KRKid Rock
  Probably get it all done in, like, two years with the-
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
10. KRKid Rock
  ... with the loot you've made. (laughs)
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm. Yeah.
12. KRKid Rock
  I found that to be a problem at times for people.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Money?
14. KRKid Rock
  No. They didn't experience ... You know, there's certain coming of age things, whether it's, you know, crazy chasing girls, you know, that whole thing-
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
16. KRKid Rock
  ... doing drugs, you know, just being kinda wild, you know. Stealing people's statues out of the yard. Whatever crazy shit like that you do when you're young and, and then they reach this point. A lot of it with ath- athletes, 'cause they were so focused in their training at such, such a young age, and then they get to that point where they get money and they're like, "I wanna taste it all." (laughs)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  That's true.
18. KRKid Rock
  And then they kinda get fucked up.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, you can lose your bearings. That's true. There ... That is the case with a lot of athletes. A lot of athletes get fat too. They just, "Fuck it, it's over." A lot of fighters.
20. KRKid Rock
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause a lot of fighters are always dieting.
22. KRKid Rock
  Well, you get that big muscle moving, it's so hard to fucking maintain as you get older.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm. Yep, that too.
24. KRKid Rock
  You start to lo- your ... Lose your lean muscle. You know about all that stuff.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
26. KRKid Rock
  (clears throat)
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
28. KRKid Rock
  All the sudden, two to 10 beers a night doesn't seem like a bad idea. (laughs)
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Well, it's also, like ... I think with athletes, especially with fighters, the, the rush of competition is so extreme that the regular world just seems so dull. And then going back to the regular world, you don't feel like you have a real purpose anymore. You're not training for this big event that takes place every few months.
30. KRKid Rock
  Like coming back from the military.
10:18 – 14:53
Bud Light backlash: the viral video, meeting the CEO, and corporate lessons
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm. Too many times. Too many times. So, what's it like being the dude who took out Bud Light?
2. KRKid Rock
  (laughs)
3. NANarrator
  (laughs)
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5. KRKid Rock
  Let's get right to it. (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Let's get right to it. (laughs) We were gonna bring a few cases in here for you. (laughs)
7. KRKid Rock
  Let me, let me switch, switch sunglasses. (laughs) Fuck, I'll drink it. I don't give a shit.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  (clears throat)
9. KRKid Rock
  Two kinds of beer in this world, cold and free. I like them both. Um ... (clears throat)
10. JRJoe Rogan
  What brings it-
11. KRKid Rock
  Man, I was just having fun, to be honest with you. I mean, I w- I was-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  It was funny.
13. KRKid Rock
  ... I was pissed, like, you know, but-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
15. KRKid Rock
  ... it wasn't like it was gonna wreck my day, yet alone my life. I was just kinda like, "What the fuck are they doing?" Like, "This is too fu-"
16. JRJoe Rogan
  But you were the straw that broke the camel's back.
17. KRKid Rock
  I became the face of it, yes.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Well-
19. KRKid Rock
  I'm not, I'm not the Pied Piper to sit around and think like people follow what Kid Rock does. I just became the face of it.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, but they kinda do. They kinda do.
21. KRKid Rock
  No.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  When ... No, listen, man. When you got so upset that you were fucking (laughs) machine gunming-
23. KRKid Rock
  Throwing a tantrum with a machine gun.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
25. NANarrator
  Wah! Wah!
26. KRKid Rock
  Like, "You machine gun cases of Bud Light."
27. NANarrator
  They wanna put girl ... They won't let guys play in girl sports. Wah!
28. JRJoe Rogan
  (dramatic sound effects) (laughs) That was the end. That was really it.
29. KRKid Rock
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  If there's one moment that they look back on and, and fucking go, "Shit!" It's that moment.
14:53 – 18:58
Online trolls, brand boycotts, and the transgender-in-sports flashpoint
1. KRKid Rock
  You know, and a pretty hard spanking. I was like, "But I don't wanna hold your head underwater and drown this fucking company, put people out of work and that shit." It's like, you got the message, and, and it's clear. I, I wish people knew these guys running the company, 'cause they're great fucking guys, but I said, um, I, I said, "You know, there's just a percentage of these fucking trolls on the left and on the right," that are like, "I'm so empowered by the internet."
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
3. KRKid Rock
  "I'm gonna piss and bitch and moan," and you know, "I have a voice." It's like, go fuck yourself. All right? Cut it out. Like, if anyone's still spending time on this, you clearly are, are fucking bored. Find something better to do.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, it's definitely a pursuit of losers, but the problem is those losers can actually affect businesses, and that's what they know. They know now that it's possible, both on the right and on the left.
5. KRKid Rock
  But they need to know there's so many more businesses in this country deserving of that treatment.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
7. KRKid Rock
  Fucking Ben & Jerry's, Starbucks, Target, the list goes on and on.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
9. KRKid Rock
  And, and I don't care if they're left wing or right wing, it's just their fucking ideology.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
11. KRKid Rock
  Like, you know, when they cross that line and signal to people like myself and many others that they were okay with this transgender thing, and, and more so at like, "Is this gonna get directed at my kids?"
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
13. KRKid Rock
  "So you think fucking men should be in women's sports?" Like, nah, nah, nah. That's where I'm drawing the fucking line. Get the fuck out of here.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  That's the most amazing one that they're supporting. And the fact that w- was it the Olympic Boxing Committee? What was it that just allowed transgender women-
15. KRKid Rock
  Oh, they're allowing the reverse.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  What do you mean?
17. KRKid Rock
  They're allowing, uh, I always get confused here. They're allowing-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Biological females to fight men?
19. KRKid Rock
  ... biological, they're allowing chicks that sow on dicks to fight dudes.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  To fight men?
21. KRKid Rock
  Which, I'd tune in for that. (laughs)
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Is that real?
23. KRKid Rock
  I think so. I don't know.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  I thought it was biological men who identify as females were gonna be allowed to box.
25. KRKid Rock
  Might be.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  I think-
27. KRKid Rock
  I thought it was the other way too, but I don't know.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Jamie'll find out.
29. NANarrator
  Oh, yeah, yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. The other one was e- the o- the other one's easy. Sure. You think, go ahead. Do it. Go for it. But at the end of the day, you're gonna have to take steroids, and it's supposed to be illegal to take steroids. Like, if you are taking synthetic testosterone, you're, you're taking steroids. And if y- so if you're doing that-
18:58 – 23:51
Freedom vs. boundaries: trans acceptance, safety fears, and carrying a gun
1. KRKid Rock
  And why does this always, like come up in conversation? Is it the media? I think-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
3. KRKid Rock
  Because I don't remember the last time like I seen it. And by the way, if you're transgender and you're really fucking good at it, no one knows. (laughs)
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
5. KRKid Rock
  It's usually not the case, although only time I've been around transgender people is like some crazy club like in Miami or New York back in the day. And gotta say, fun.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  It was rare.
7. KRKid Rock
  Yeah, but I mean, they used to have those clubs where they weren't, it'd be a fucking blast, no big deal.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm. Yeah.
9. KRKid Rock
  Like, it's this is America. Freedom. If you wanna fucking be that, go ahead, like I'll exist with you in society.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
11. KRKid Rock
  You're probably not getting the dinner invite.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
13. KRKid Rock
  But, but you know, if you're out and about, like we can both shop at Walmart, I'm not gonna freak out.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
15. KRKid Rock
  If you're not fucking with me, I'm not fucking with you.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
17. KRKid Rock
  No matter who you are.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  And that's how it should be.
19. KRKid Rock
  Yeah, it's pretty simple.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  That's how it should be.
21. KRKid Rock
  It's common sense.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, you should be able to do whatever you want. But when you wanna compete as a woman or you wanna start, you know, if you're a 50-year-old man, you wanna compete against young girls, which is what's going on in Canada. There's a guy who's 50 who identifies as a teenage girl. They let him compete in swim meets with girls and change in the locker room with them. That's-
23. KRKid Rock
  (laughs)
24. JRJoe Rogan
  You're, you're, now you're insane. Now you're taking it too far, and that's the problem. No one's ever happy with us moving the goalpost a little bit. They wanna move them, reestablish, move them further, move them further, move them further.
25. KRKid Rock
  I had a thought about that. (clears throat) So I'm thinking like, "It's Black History Month, right?" I can get down with that. That makes sense. I think November is like Native American Month. I can get down with that. That makes sense. The thing I'm struggling with is Pride Month and Veteran's Day. Ugh.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
27. KRKid Rock
  See the fucking balance there?
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
29. KRKid Rock
  I'm like-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  It's a good point.
23:51 – 30:49
‘Weird times’: 9/11 unity, Israel tragedy, border concerns, and news distrust
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Like society doesn't get better, just gets... unless something happens, unless they figure out some sort of mind reading software or whatever.
2. KRKid Rock
  Well, unfortunately, usually that turns out to be tragedy.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
4. KRKid Rock
  You know, when something really fucked up happens, you know, like what happened in Israel or worse.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
6. KRKid Rock
  You know, that tends to bring nations and people together on different levels, unfortunately.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Like 9/11, remember 9/11?
8. KRKid Rock
  Yeah, absolutely.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  When 9/11 happened, I tell everybody, like even in Los Angeles, which is probably the most unpatriotic place on Earth, everybody had an American flag on their car. People were letting people in lanes. They were waving to people. They were friendly. They felt united.
10. KRKid Rock
  Mm-hmm. I remember.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  It was interesting.
12. KRKid Rock
  I remember.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  It didn't last long, a few months.
14. KRKid Rock
  Everybody ha- half the country didn't hate George W. Bush for almost 48 hours. (laughs)
15. JRJoe Rogan
  They didn't hate him at all when he gave that one great speech.
16. KRKid Rock
  No, I mean, it was, it was a couple of weeks-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
18. KRKid Rock
  ... or a couple of months, whatever it was. But then-
19. JRJoe Rogan
  There was-
20. KRKid Rock
  ... things kind of went back to normal.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  There was a lot of liberals that liked him after that. They were like, "That's what you want when you're in times of war. You want a strong leader."
22. KRKid Rock
  That's too bad we can't get to that without, you know, having-... something terrible happened.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  I know. Wow, that's-
24. KRKid Rock
  If we could just have a little more civil discourse in this country... You can go, tell me to go fuck myself, you, you hate Trump and my politics. I mean, fuck you, but I'll still sit down and have a beer with you.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
26. KRKid Rock
  Like, we, we don't have to have this fucking goddamn going-for-your-throat. And I'm part of the problem. I've, I've been polarizing, you know, no, no question. My last album, that's what it was all about, but... Or a, a good portion of it, a- and I understand that. But I even said that album, I was like, "I'm gonna get this out of my system, and hopefully we can go back-"
27. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
28. KRKid Rock
  "... to having some civil discourse in this country."
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you think about it that way?
30. KRKid Rock
  That was actually one of my s- that was actually one of my suggestions to, to Bud Light. I was like, "What if you could use this to not only make fun..." My, my thing was like, "You guys need to poke fun at this." Like, people are angry 'cause you didn't apologize. I'm like, "I don't necessarily agree with apologizing over everything in this day and age." Everything's become a fucking big, "I'm sorry." Fuck that. Like, what you should do is, like, make fun of the situation. Have something that shows light of the situation, but do it in that fun fucking Anheuser-Busch, old school, funny fucking way, where like, "We get it. We fucked up. Like, you know, well, we don't..." I, I, I told Brennan, I was like, "Whoever coached you on that CBS Morning show..." I was like, "You were coached, right?" He was like, "I was." I was like, "Fucking Gayle King set it up." She goes, "Would you send that can back to that influencer?" And he goes into this, "Well, Anheuser-Busch has been supporting, you know, the LGBT, ABCD."
30:49 – 40:42
Media, elections, and ‘deep state’ talk: Biden decline, money in politics, and propaganda
1. JRJoe Rogan
  One thing no one can deny is that he exposed the media.... expose the media for being e- essentially a propaganda agent. It's not just the news.
2. KRKid Rock
  Yup.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  And to pretend it's the news, they never covered anything that he did that was positive. Anything had some negative spin on it. They spent years talking about some fake collusion story with Russia and never apologized for it, never took it back, and they'll allow people on this show to s- to, to, to support that, to try to justify that, or to try to e- even say that it's not true, that he did co- collaborate with Russia.
4. KRKid Rock
  How many times have you been watching the evening news... I'm a sucker for news, like, and I'll flip between them, I'll flip between CNN and MSNBC and Fox, you know. I... Mainly Fox, but then I'll watch a- the evening news. I'll watch ABC one night, NBC. This is one s- this is just one example, there's a million of them as you know, but, like, they're talking about January 6th, and they completely edit his speech.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
6. KRKid Rock
  They take out the part where he says, "Let's march down there peacefully," or whatever. He actually-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
8. KRKid Rock
  ... says that, and they cut it out. He says, "We're gonna march down to the Capitol," cut-
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
10. KRKid Rock
  ... and then they go, "If you don't fight like hell, you're not gonna have a country."
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Yup.
12. KRKid Rock
  I mean, how the fuck do they get away with that?
13. JRJoe Rogan
  They, they get away with it because they are the news and no one's checking them. There's not another new... If the news was real, the other news organizations would go, "This is horrible propaganda and what you've done is you, you've edited out a former president, you've changed his words. This should be illegal. You're taking it completely out of context." The whole thing is so fucking screwball. Every single presidential race we've ever had that I can remember, people contested the results. Hillary Clinton-
14. KRKid Rock
  When Hillary Clinton did it-
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
16. KRKid Rock
  ... and Stacey Abrams.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  They all said-
18. KRKid Rock
  No fucking big deal.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... he didn't really win the election. They all said there was Russian collusion. They all said that he was-
20. KRKid Rock
  Oh, man.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  ... essentially an agent of Russia. They all said that he's an illegitimate president. They all said that he didn't win the election. They all said that. There was so many people that said it.
22. KRKid Rock
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  It was nuts.
24. KRKid Rock
  That old pencil neck fucking dick fuck, uh, Adam Schiff. (laughs)
25. JRJoe Rogan
  D- it's, it's crazy how people still listen to those folks. How can you be wrong about some-
26. KRKid Rock
  You know what's crazy about that... How about that election, I'm not a conspiracy guy or whatever, but I'm like, "Fucking, it just seems like shenanigans." What's w-
27. JRJoe Rogan
  I love when anybody says, "I'm not a conspiracy guy."
28. KRKid Rock
  Does that mean I'm a conspiracy-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  But it's about to say some wild shit. (laughs)
30. KRKid Rock
  All right, I'm a, I'm a total fucking conspiracy guy, fuck it.
40:42 – 48:01
Bohemian Grove: infiltrators, owl statue rituals, and celebrity absurdity (Tony Danza!)
1. JRJoe Rogan
  I believed in Bigfoot until about eight years ago. (laughs)
2. KRKid Rock
  Fucking the yeti is another story. (laughs) I didn't say I didn't believe in the yeti.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't anymore.
4. KRKid Rock
  (laughs)
5. JRJoe Rogan
  But I, I was all in for a while. But I've b-... I've been down so many rabbit holes, so many 9/11 rabbit holes, so many, you know, Bohemian Grove rabbit holes.
6. KRKid Rock
  I've... I went there once.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Stolen bones.
8. KRKid Rock
  I got kicked out. (laughs)
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you? You went to the Grove?
10. KRKid Rock
  Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, shit. Why'd you get kicked out?
12. KRKid Rock
  Fucking weird. (laughs) Fucking weird. I punched a kid in the head.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  You punched a kid in the head?
14. KRKid Rock
  Yeah.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  In Bohemian Grove?
16. KRKid Rock
  Yeah. It turns out, it turns out this fucking kid was an infiltrator. So then after that, I was-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
18. KRKid Rock
  ... kind of this hero. Like, a year or two later, he'd come back and it was like, "I'm not coming to your little fucking weird party out in the fucking woods." I was like, "I went once. It ain't that cool."
19. JRJoe Rogan
  So the infiltrator... What happened with you and the infiltrator?
20. KRKid Rock
  We're sitting around... We're sitting around this fire. You have these little... They're kinda like tree houses or campsites, but they're really nice. Everyone has a private shuff. Got, like, you know-
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
22. KRKid Rock
  Yeah. You do share a room. Me and Jimmy John shared a room. That was fun.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
24. KRKid Rock
  Um, and I kept hearing kids talking around this fire, and they just pop... started popping that shit, and I just fucking went at them. (laughs)
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
26. KRKid Rock
  Gave him a couple, helped him up. Was like, "Hey, we good?" (laughs) We were... I think, you know... We weren't on great terms, but I think we had an understanding. It wasn't... It was just, you know, one of those things. And then I couldn't go to the, to the concert that night, where I think Zach Brown or somebody was playing. Like, "You can't come."
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, my God.
28. KRKid Rock
  Like, I just sat home like I was in fucking timeout or something. I'm like, "Fuck this place."
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Meanwhile-
30. KRKid Rock
  (laughs)
48:01 – 52:12
UFC power, trash talk psychology, and performance under pressure
1. KRKid Rock
  Can we talk-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  ... d- that was one of the positive things about COVID.
3. KRKid Rock
  Can we talk about that punch-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God.
5. KRKid Rock
  ... at the last fucking one we were at, sitting there? That fucking ... I think it was the second-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Josh Emmett. Yeah.
7. KRKid Rock
  Sh- ... That crack?
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God, dude. That guy punches so hard.
9. KRKid Rock
  I, I've only been to a handful of the fights. I know you've fucking ... Obviously, that's your ...
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Josh Emmett might be the hardest puncher in that division ever.
11. KRKid Rock
  I'd never heard anything like that.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, he hits so hard.
13. KRKid Rock
  I thought the guy was dead.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Well, that was a crazy combination of Bryce Mitchell moving forward quick and then him catching him right at the end of one of the most powerful punchers ever in, in the 145-pound division.
15. KRKid Rock
  Yeah.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Show that again? Watch this. It's ... Look, look how that dude's built. Like, I mean-
17. KRKid Rock
  But you can't appreciate it without the smack. Smack!
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Look at the fucking physique on this animal.
19. NANarrator
  Oh. Oh.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  I mean, Josh Emmett is just a ball of muscle.
21. NANarrator
  Oh. Oh.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Bro, that guy hits-
23. KRKid Rock
  It sounded like somebody smacked a two by four, like, against a garbage can.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Bro, if that guy hits anybody, they go night-night. I mean, anybody.
25. KRKid Rock
  Damn.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Anybody. He had this fight with Michael Johnson, and it was a re- Michael Johnson's a really good fighter. Like, he, he knocked out Dustin Poirier at one point.
27. KRKid Rock
  Damn.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Michael Johnson's very, very legit. And, uh, Michael Johnson's winning the fight, and Josh Emmett catches him with one punch and s- just shuts him off. Watch this. So, Michael Johnson's winning this fight. Boom.
29. KRKid Rock
  Oh.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  One shot, dude. One shot.
52:12 – 57:13
Fame, Hollywood predators, and why Kid Rock avoided the PR game
1. JRJoe Rogan
  How much... (clears throat) How difficult was it for you when you first started getting famous? Because you go from being a regular dude to being Kid Rock in not a lot of time.
2. KRKid Rock
  What was it like, getting pussy?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  No! (laughs)
4. KRKid Rock
  (laughs) What was it like being the man? And just-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  That's pretty much what it was. (laughs)
6. KRKid Rock
  (laughs)
7. JRJoe Rogan
  But was it stressful? Was it, like, uh, hard to deal with?
8. KRKid Rock
  Fuck, no.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Wasn't at all?
10. KRKid Rock
  It was fucking awesome. (laughs)
11. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) I love it.
12. KRKid Rock
  It's the greatest fucking shit on earth.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Ugh!
14. KRKid Rock
  I'm like, I have to worry about fucking buying food. Like, I'm gonna be able to put my kid through college at this point. We're getting a new fucking house and getting a new car. Fucking getting a nice seat at the restaurant.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
16. KRKid Rock
  Fucking... No problem with that. I, I, I'm not one of those people that bitch about it. Like, it's-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  What do you think it is about-
18. KRKid Rock
  ... it's so tough. (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  What do you think about people that can't handle it? Like why, what do you think it is?
20. KRKid Rock
  Fucking get away from it. Britney Spears, move back to wherever the fuck you're from. Where's she from, Arkansas or Louisiana or something?
21. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't know where she's from.
22. KRKid Rock
  Somewhere down there? Get the fuck outta LA. That place is eating you fucking alive.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  I think Britney's in Vegas now, right?
24. KRKid Rock
  Oh, so much better. (laughs)
25. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) Yeah, it's better for her health. It's a more stable environment.
26. KRKid Rock
  You know, I'm not gonna do heroin anymore. I've, I've stepped it down to crack. (laughs)
27. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) And gambling.
28. KRKid Rock
  And get awf- g- there's ways to get away from it.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
30. KRKid Rock
  There's ways. Trust me. You know this too.
57:13 – 1:07:40
Social media harms, Kid Rock’s gold palace stories, and new tours/festivals (Rock the Country)
1. JRJoe Rogan
  That's what social media's (clears throat) doing times 10, right?
2. KRKid Rock
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Imagine being a kid today and just dealing with all this social media shit.
4. KRKid Rock
  Trying to keep up with the Joneses.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Impossible.
6. KRKid Rock
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  And just trying to-
8. KRKid Rock
  And what's, I think it's even worse, like I, I have ... Well, my granddaughter is nine, but I have nieces who are teenagers and going through all that stuff. And it's, man, the influence it has over 'em and then what the other kids say and then what they're all saying on social media-
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
10. KRKid Rock
  ... and what the new trend is and what the new this. I think it's always been that way, but now it's just exaggerated times 1,000, because everything's right there.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  It's a difficult thing for adults to handle. And the, the, the emotional aspect of going back and forth with people and comments and stuff, and the whole world is commenting on things. Like, when they're doing that to each other, the kind of pressure that they're putting under 'em, no kids have ever experienced that before. No kids have ever grown up with that before. This is a totally new pressure. And if you look at the data, like suicide went up, self-harm-
12. KRKid Rock
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  ... went up. Depression went up. It's not healthy. It's not normal. And we're all-
14. KRKid Rock
  Uh, I think it's the devil. I said that the year Twitter came out. You might be able to look this up. I care- I think it was in Rolling Stone or somewhere, whatever, like, "What do you think about Twitter?" And I said, "Twitter's fucking gay."
15. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
16. KRKid Rock
  This is probably when it came out. (clears throat) And, and so as time went on, 'cause all I saw is people like having a subway sandwich for lunch or whatever. I'm like, "No one gives a fuck. Like-"
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh right, the early days.
18. KRKid Rock
  Yeah. Like, you know-
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
20. KRKid Rock
  ... I'd get promoting stuff and this, that, and the other, fucking getting a rise out of somebody, stirring the pot. (clears throat) But then the funny part was, years later, you know, Twitter blew up to be this huge fucking thing. And they're like, this fucking reporter's getting kind of snooty with me, and he's like, "You said," and I quote, "Twitter's gay." I'm like, "No fucking way." I go, "I didn't say that shit." (clears throat) I go, "And I'm so sick of you fuckers in the media misquoting me every time, every opportunity you get." I said, "To be clear, I said Twitter is fucking gay, all right?"
21. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
22. KRKid Rock
  "Get it right." (laughs)
23. JRJoe Rogan
  The I gotcha questions like that. You said ...
24. KRKid Rock
  Dude, that's why I stopped doing interviews like 10, so many years ago.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
26. KRKid Rock
  Be- because, you know, you used to have to promote something, call every radio station in every market. It's like that would be part of your day. Get up early, which I was not good at back them. These days I'm up at 3:30, but was not good at it back in these days. It's like get up early, call all these different places, all these things like weekly. And it turned into, as the internet and social media started becoming prevalent, it turned into I gotcha. Because that was the headline. And as my publicist used to say, "Dude, you speak in fucking headlines 'cause you have no fucking filter." And I'm like, "I don't. It's gonna be very tough to change that." So it was always this, you know, (clears throat) be your buddy, say some nice things, "Your new record's great," blah, blah, blah. Then like fucking get you on the line with something, of course I go off the fucking rails.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
28. KRKid Rock
  And then you fucking, that's all you hear about. And it just, you know-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, that's what they wanna do. You know?
30. KRKid Rock
  They still do.

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American Badass chain & Tom Petty weed-run story

Fentanyl deaths, opioids, and the “testing kit” wake-up call

Rock-and-roll partying, weed differences, and Kid Rock’s tequila rule

Fox News doom, culture shifts, and RFK Jr. ‘un-gayed’ joke

Discipline vs. chaos: martial arts, comedy, athletes, and post-service purpose

Bud Light backlash: the viral video, meeting the CEO, and corporate lessons

Online trolls, brand boycotts, and the transgender-in-sports flashpoint

Freedom vs. boundaries: trans acceptance, safety fears, and carrying a gun

‘Weird times’: 9/11 unity, Israel tragedy, border concerns, and news distrust

Media, elections, and ‘deep state’ talk: Biden decline, money in politics, and propaganda

Bohemian Grove: infiltrators, owl statue rituals, and celebrity absurdity (Tony Danza!)

UFC power, trash talk psychology, and performance under pressure

Fame, Hollywood predators, and why Kid Rock avoided the PR game

Social media harms, Kid Rock’s gold palace stories, and new tours/festivals (Rock the Country)

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