Joe Rogan Experience #2111 - Katt Williams

Joe Rogan 0:00 (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) What's up? (laughs)

Katt Williams 0:15 How are you?

Joe Rogan 0:16 I can't believe we never met each other till today. That's kind of crazy.

Katt Williams 0:20 It's really weird.

Joe Rogan 0:20 It's kind of crazy. It was always, like, at the store, they're like, "Kat was here last night." I'm like, "Fuck." It was always (whoosh) two ships in the night.

Katt Williams 0:29 Right. I would, I would see you and not be able to get to you. Like, comedy is small, but... only if you're mediocre.

Joe Rogan 0:41 (laughs)

Katt Williams 0:42 It's big. It's a vast, vast place.

Joe Rogan 0:46 It's vast and it's also small-

Katt Williams 0:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:48 ... because there's so few of us. And worldwide? We were talking about this the other day. There's maybe 500 of us on the planet. You know, you gotta be real generous to say 500, because there's really probably about 250.

Katt Williams 1:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:03 Like, legit comics? Guys you wanna hang out with? Guys who are fun? Guys who you'd recommend?

Katt Williams 1:10 Your number is going down.

Joe Rogan 1:11 My number's going down. (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:11 Your number's going down. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:13 Guys you'd recommend leave your house, get a babysitter? Your number's going down. There's not a lot of people.

Katt Williams 1:20 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:21 You think about the billions and billions of people on the planet to us. A little smidgen of us.

Katt Williams 1:27 Well, as... as children, we all take to talking with ease. And so the fact that later on in your life, you'll be one of the people that could say, "I talk for a living," is, um, an amazing honor.

Joe Rogan 1:46 It's amazing.

Katt Williams 1:47 Even if you look a thousand years back.

Joe Rogan 1:50 Yeah. Especially today. To just be able to talk for a living? Oh my God. What? And that's the problem also with what we do, is that everybody can talk. So they see you talking.

Katt Williams 2:01 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 2:01 They're like, "I could do what he's doing."

Katt Williams 2:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 2:03 "He's just up there talking."

Katt Williams 2:04 And the better you do it, the easier it looks-

Joe Rogan 2:06 Right.

Katt Williams 2:06 ... which is part of the trap.

Joe Rogan 2:07 Yeah, it's part of the trap.

Katt Williams 2:09 It looks like, "He doesn't think about what he says. He just says stuff." But you, you couldn't be as accurate.

Joe Rogan 2:16 No. No. And then there's hanging around with comics you get to know about shit like their electric Rolls-Royces. (laughs)

Katt Williams 2:25 (laughs) Right. Right. If Satan hits me-

Joe Rogan 2:29 (laughs)

Katt Williams 2:29 ... just know I'm hitting back immediately.

Joe Rogan 2:31 (laughs)

Katt Williams 2:32 You're, you're gonna know about it if I'm ever hurt. Yeah, the electric Spectre.

Joe Rogan 2:37 That thing is insane. That thing's insane. Just the way the doors open up and the way the doors close when you touch the brakes. (clears throat) Totally silent.

Katt Williams 2:47 For the price point, it has, it would have to be perfect. And the whole thing is, it is. And that's, that's what you're trying to do in any genre.

Joe Rogan 2:59 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 2:59 Like, you're trying to find that thing that is flawless in that genre.

Joe Rogan 3:05 Right.

Katt Williams 3:06 And, uh, that's it.

Joe Rogan 3:08 That's the Rolls-Royce. I never had one of those.

Katt Williams 3:11 Right. Well, because, because it's important to you that you be grounded in the important ways. So I can see you not have had it, hav- having not had a Rolls-Royce. I've had four, five.

Joe Rogan 3:24 (laughs) I'm not opposed to it.

Katt Williams 3:27 Mm.

Joe Rogan 3:28 It's just, uh, the idea of it to me is like, don't do that, for me. You know, I'm always like, "Nah, get away from that."

Katt Williams 3:36 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 3:37 Get yourself a muscle car.

Katt Williams 3:38 What... Well, see?

Joe Rogan 3:39 (laughs)

Katt Williams 3:39 You see what I mean? Yeah, because, because we live vicariously through these things, and it's been that way for all of humankind.

Joe Rogan 3:47 Sure.

Katt Williams 3:47 I'm saying it was still like that, um, for the Roman in his chariot.

Joe Rogan 3:52 Oh, yeah.

Katt Williams 3:53 Like, that's how he felt. Like, that's, that's how horsemen feel about that ride, you know?

Joe Rogan 3:58 Yeah.

Katt Williams 3:58 Like-

Joe Rogan 3:58 Yeah, yeah.

Katt Williams 4:00 ... transportation and people have a love story.

Joe Rogan 4:05 Yeah, that's really the only object that I'm really into. Like, I'm, I'm into-

Katt Williams 4:10 Vehicles?

Joe Rogan 4:10 Yeah, vehicles. I'm into mechanical vehicles.

Katt Williams 4:13 Right.

Joe Rogan 4:14 There's, like, something about mechanical vehicles that just speak to me. I love them. I love looking at them. I love sitting in them. I love driving them. It's just like, it's one of the things that people say, like, money can't buy you happiness. That's definitely true. If you're fucked up, you're not gonna get happier if you get rich. But if you're already reasonably happy and you can afford a nice muscle car, goddamn, you'll feel happier. You will feel-

Katt Williams 4:38 But-

Joe Rogan 4:39 ... happier.

Katt Williams 4:40 But every time.

Joe Rogan 4:41 Every time you drive it.

Katt Williams 4:42 So what I'm saying is-

Joe Rogan 4:43 (laughs)

Katt Williams 4:43 ... when I got the '67 Chevy Camaro-

Joe Rogan 4:46 Mm.

Katt Williams 4:46 ... I needed no other cars.

Joe Rogan 4:48 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 4:49 I was complete.

Joe Rogan 4:50 Yeah.

Katt Williams 4:50 When I got the Grand National-

Joe Rogan 4:52 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 4:53 ... you couldn't tell me anything. There was nothing on-

Joe Rogan 4:56 Yeah.

Katt Williams 4:56 ... the highway that was of my ilk.

Joe Rogan 4:58 Yeah.

Katt Williams 4:59 But I've felt that way, um, 12, 13 times. That's what makes it real love.

Joe Rogan 5:05 Yeah, they give you real joy.

Katt Williams 5:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:07 Every time you drive them.

Katt Williams 5:08 And you feel like that character in that movie, you know?

Joe Rogan 5:14 Fuck yeah.

Katt Williams 5:14 Like...

Joe Rogan 5:15 Yeah. Yeah, you drive a 1970 Chevelle, you feel like John Wick. (laughs)

Katt Williams 5:19 Yeah, it's a sacred, sacred place. There's music there. There's-

Joe Rogan 5:23 Yeah.

Katt Williams 5:23 ... recklessness, but there's safety.

Joe Rogan 5:25 Yeah.

Katt Williams 5:26 You know?

Joe Rogan 5:26 Yeah.

Katt Williams 5:26 It's like, um, it-

Joe Rogan 5:28 Thrills.

Katt Williams 5:28 ... it gets to the essence of a being.

Joe Rogan 5:31 And I think it's a thing that won't exist 100 years from now. I think automated driving will be mandatory. I really do. I don't... I think we're about-

Katt Williams 5:41 Wow.

Joe Rogan 5:41 ... 100 years away, 100 years away from no, no personal automobiles, no control over your vehicle. We're gonna stop all crashes. If we could stop all crashes and all highway deaths... Come on, Kat. Won't you contribute and give up all your rights to drive? We're gonna stop-

Katt Williams 5:57 It's-

Joe Rogan 5:57 ... all death.

Katt Williams 5:58 Yeah, it's not... But understand that it...All of these things have, um, financial benefits and then they use those perks you just mentioned to get you in. But-

Joe Rogan 6:10 Yeah.

Katt Williams 6:10 ... I, I, yeah. I, I-

Joe Rogan 6:11 But somebody's making money.

Katt Williams 6:12 I believe that, um, it'll be mandatory. But, but for practical reasons-

Joe Rogan 6:18 (clears throat)

Katt Williams 6:18 ... like, this thing where the police want you and they have to chase you and you may get away, those, those days are done.

Joe Rogan 6:26 Yeah. They're just gonna-

Katt Williams 6:26 You feel me?

Joe Rogan 6:26 ... shut your car off. Yeah.

Katt Williams 6:28 Your, your car is going to do what they-

Joe Rogan 6:30 Yeah.

Katt Williams 6:30 ... tell it to do.

Joe Rogan 6:31 Yeah.

Katt Williams 6:31 Which is get behind this patrol car and follow us to the station. Lock the doors. Like-

Joe Rogan 6:35 There's speculation that they've, they've had that for a long time, you know? There was a... that-

Katt Williams 6:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:39 ... that famous journalist, Michael Hastings was his name? There's this journalist. I don't know if you know this story but (clears throat) it's pretty crazy. This guy went to, um, Afghanistan? He was in Afghanistan with the troops. And he was only supposed to be there writing a Rolling Stone article about this general for a very short amount of time. But then there was the volcano in Iceland, and the volcano in Iceland stopped air travel. So, he... this journalist from n- the Rolling Stone was embedded in this, this troop and they started talking shit. And he started reporting the shit that they were talking, including disparaging comments that the general had said about Obama. So, the general gets back. He has to retire. He has to... you know, it's... the Rolling Stone exposed. It's a big deal because everybody loves this general. So, he retires and this Michael Hastings guy is on the run and he's terrified. He's telling people, "If, if I commit suicide, I did not kill myself. People are threatening my life." And then he's going down La Brea and his car is going like 120 miles an hour, and just slams into a tree and explodes. And there's a video footage of it. This dude is just flying. Look at that. Flying down the street, hits a tree, and the car explodes. And they asked security experts at that time, I think this was like 2005? 4?

Narrator 8:01 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 8:03 (clears throat) 2004 or 2005? "Is it possible to control a vehicle remotely?" They said, "Does your vehicle have a computer?" If your vehicle has a computer, they can control it, period. There's a way.

Katt Williams 8:16 And they know that.

Joe Rogan 8:16 And they've been doing that for... That... this is-

Narrator 8:18 2010.

Joe Rogan 8:19 2010. So this is 14 fucking years ago.

Katt Williams 8:22 Easy peasy.

Joe Rogan 8:24 If they can do that then, what can they do now? They just shut your fucking car right off. (imitates brakes)

Narrator 8:28 Oh. That's when this article came out. I'm sorry. So I think the acc- accident was 2013.

Joe Rogan 8:32 Oh.

Narrator 8:32 Yeah, there you go.

Joe Rogan 8:33 Well, how was the article in 2010 if the accident's in 2013?

Narrator 8:37 Uh, well, the article came out first and exposed McChrystal and...

Joe Rogan 8:40 Oh, oh. The Rolling Stone article.

Narrator 8:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:42 I thought you meant the article that... on the, on the accident. So-

Katt Williams 8:44 If you actually do reading about Tesla... See, that's the thing, Joe. Tha- tha- that's why I love history so much, because once you find out that this world is a circle, you can never get lost. Like...

Joe Rogan 8:59 Right.

Katt Williams 8:59 You can look at certain things and it'll-

Joe Rogan 9:01 Patterns.

Katt Williams 9:01 ... tell you what's gonna happen later, like, with amazing accuracy. Like, um... (clears throat) Yeah, like, that's how I knew that things like what you showed me with Hastings, that those were real things.

Joe Rogan 9:16 Yeah.

Katt Williams 9:17 Um, it's not-

Joe Rogan 9:18 They've always been real.

Katt Williams 9:19 It's... Uh, everybody who has ever been killed in one of those ways, there was a financial benefit to it. It was obvious. It was easy. You know where it came from. It's just-

Joe Rogan 9:29 Yeah.

Katt Williams 9:29 ... that they do a good job. But h- how is that difficult if that's your job? Like, they do-

Joe Rogan 9:36 Exactly.

Katt Williams 9:36 ... this, they do this really well. They do it worldwide. Um, and-

Joe Rogan 9:40 Also, this guy fucked with the worst person you could fuck with, a high-ranking beloved general who's in charge of trained killers who love him. And you don't think he could put one of those dudes on you with a coffee meeting? Just have a sit-down at Starbucks with no phones on you? And let me explain what's going on?

Katt Williams 10:01 A shadow government is no more difficult than a government.

Joe Rogan 10:05 Yeah. And so not only that, they don't, they don't have to get elected. It's even better.

Katt Williams 10:09 That-

Joe Rogan 10:10 Even nicer. They can stay for a long time. They can... I mean, think about J. Edgar Hoover. How long did that motherfucker stay in power for? He was running the FBI wearing a dress for like 30 years (laughs) .

Katt Williams 10:21 Because of what you just discussed.

Joe Rogan 10:24 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Katt Williams 10:25 Like, like, there are... that... (clears throat) that's why I can speak with impunity about the Illuminati because I know who you would have to be in order for what I'm saying to bother you, number one.

Joe Rogan 10:42 Right.

Katt Williams 10:42 Number two, I know your big secret. I know that you're not the Illuminati. I am.

Joe Rogan 10:48 (laughs)

Katt Williams 10:51 So... (clears throat) You can't be illuminated. You're too dark. But the, the difficulty is getting people to believe something that they don't wanna believe. And in each of these cases, this is where the money is. If you're just a capitalist, it is find something, establish a value for it, and make sure that that includes your profit, and make sure people really want it.

Joe Rogan 11:16 Right.

Katt Williams 11:17 It, it, it's very fundamental. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:19 Also, if you're running corporations and you're-

Katt Williams 11:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:22 ... making billions of dollars-

Katt Williams 11:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:24 ... you're gonna get bored. What's the ultimate game? The ultimate game is to run the whole world. Do you know what-

Katt Williams 11:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:29 ... the ultimate game is, Kat?

Katt Williams 11:31 I do.

Joe Rogan 11:31 We have an overpopulation problem, Kat.

Katt Williams 11:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:34 It's an overpopulation problem.

Katt Williams 11:36 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:37 And we're gonna, we're gonna be able to mitigate that with vaccines. We're gonna be able to mitigate that with, with health care.

Katt Williams 11:43 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:43 We're gonna figure that out. We're gonna, we're gonna get rid of a bunch of people. We use is what-

Katt Williams 11:46 We used to be able to do it with neglect, and it was called-

Joe Rogan 11:49 (laughs)

Katt Williams 11:49 ... nature's way. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:51 Right.

Katt Williams 11:51 You know?

Joe Rogan 11:51 Right.

Katt Williams 11:52 Like, like, whatever was ailing you, it wasn't ailing everybody in the world. The Chinese didn't have it because they had-

Joe Rogan 12:00 Right.

Katt Williams 12:00 ... 6,000 herbs 6,000 years ago and knew what each one did then. You know? Like-

Joe Rogan 12:06 Mm-hmm.You know, people are very resistant to that, when they don't realize that almost all pharmaceutical drugs come from plants. Uh, a big-

Katt Williams 12:14 You can't be, uh, against the original.

Joe Rogan 12:17 Yeah. It's ridiculous.

Katt Williams 12:19 Right.

Joe Rogan 12:19 That's, that's government propaganda working on you. That's like when they... Remember when they had Marinol when they were making weed illegal? And the people had, were going through cancer, and their doctors are prescribing them weed for chemotherapy, so they gave them Marinol. Do you remember that shit?

Katt Williams 12:33 I do.

Joe Rogan 12:33 It's, it's like a synthetic version of weed that's terrible. (laughs)

Katt Williams 12:39 I... But, but terrible is subjective-

Joe Rogan 12:43 Right.

Katt Williams 12:44 ... to nothing. So they have this, um, oil-like cannabis that is for, um, people having seizures-

Joe Rogan 12:54 Right.

Katt Williams 12:54 ... and it's the only thing that will stop a seizure.

Joe Rogan 12:57 Yeah, it's incredible.

Katt Williams 12:58 It is... But here's the thing, the fact that there is a God is the biggest conversation worldwide. But the truth of the matter is, there is more reason for you to believe there is a God than there is for you to not. Like, the way that things interact, like if we're just talking about marijuana or alcohol or whatever that is, you have to understand that this thing serves no other purpose than to bring pleasure to this small group of beings.

Joe Rogan 13:39 Right.

Katt Williams 13:40 And the fact that it already was set up to do that, the fact that it was already set up on this planet for there to be medicines for us to find and to utilize and-

Joe Rogan 13:51 Yeah.

Katt Williams 13:51 You see what I'm saying? It's like-

Joe Rogan 13:53 Yeah.

Katt Williams 13:53 It's not like, "Oh yeah, so he made a cow." No, to make a cow, it means you had to also have made grass, and it means you would have had to have invented a whole new eating system for this animal, which was cud. And that means you would, you would then have to give him three stomachs to be able to... And you would have to have known that he was going to then emit a gas that was going to be necessary on the planet. Like-

Joe Rogan 14:16 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Katt Williams 14:17 Like none of these things-

Joe Rogan 14:19 Fertilizer, all of it.

Katt Williams 14:20 Right, the fact that-

Joe Rogan 14:21 Seeds.

Katt Williams 14:21 ... everything goes together is how you know.

Joe Rogan 14:24 Mm-hmm. It's pretty wild. And every time we step in and fuck with it, it goes haywire.

Katt Williams 14:29 Right.

Joe Rogan 14:29 Every time human beings do it.

Katt Williams 14:30 Predictably haywire though.

Joe Rogan 14:32 Haywire. Haywire.

Katt Williams 14:33 Right, right. But that's part of, that's part of the benefits of free will-

Joe Rogan 14:37 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 14:38 ... is you really can jump into a volcano, dude.

Joe Rogan 14:41 Down.

Katt Williams 14:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:43 Haywire.

Katt Williams 14:43 You really can.

Joe Rogan 14:45 I mean, think about what we've done to wildlife. The wi- the wa- the craziest thing in this country, especially right here, is pigs. Bro, wild pigs are everywhere and there's so many of them. I went to a friend of mine's farm, or well, it's like a ranch, to, to hunt wild pigs.

Katt Williams 15:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:01 And you just hear them like, like Lord of the Rings characters in the bushes. (imitates pig sounds) And there's 150 of them near you, 250 of them, thousands on the ranch. They're all over the place and they have three litters a year, and they start having litters when they're six months old. They just pump out piglets, let's go.

Katt Williams 15:22 You can tell they're not delicious.

Joe Rogan 15:24 They are delicious.

Katt Williams 15:25 Oh, well, then here we go then.

Joe Rogan 15:27 They're delicious.

Katt Williams 15:27 We don't really have, we don't really have a problem then, do we?

Joe Rogan 15:30 Right. No, we have a "we need to eat pigs" problem. (laughs)

Katt Williams 15:32 No, we need to be sending this off somewhere-

Joe Rogan 15:37 Yeah.

Katt Williams 15:38 ... to someone who does.

Joe Rogan 15:39 Well, definitely we should. That would be an easy way to solve a lot of hunger problems.

Katt Williams 15:44 I'm saying we live in a country where we're complaining about food sources.

Joe Rogan 15:47 It's a good point.

Katt Williams 15:48 These chickens are pecking us to death. They're everywhere.

Joe Rogan 15:52 (laughs)

Katt Williams 15:53 I can't eat and sleep. Yeah, but they're delicious, right?

Joe Rogan 15:56 Yeah, have more chickens. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we do have an overabundance problem, for sure. We really do. But the pig thing is a wild one. It's, it's hard to get them. Like you gotta... They're very smart and they spread out and there's so fucking many of them, they shoot them with helicopters.

Katt Williams 16:14 Oh, yeah. I've seen it. Right, right. It's-

Joe Rogan 16:16 I've been invited three times since I moved here to go shoot pigs out of a helicopter.

Katt Williams 16:21 But that's part of the reason that you came to Texas.

Joe Rogan 16:25 The freedom, for sure.

Katt Williams 16:26 Texas is a place of great adventure.

Joe Rogan 16:29 Yeah.

Katt Williams 16:30 And people who believe in that, right?

Joe Rogan 16:32 Yeah.

Katt Williams 16:33 It's really God's country in the right places.

Joe Rogan 16:36 It is in the right places.

Katt Williams 16:37 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:38 I think you're gonna have annoying people everywhere you go in this world. But in general, I think the people here overall are nicer, they're friendlier, and they're not captured. They're not captured by the ether of Hollywood, that they haven't been sucked into the, the vortex of ideological thinking and just that weirdness of that town. So when you escape that and just be around regular people, you're like, "Oh, people are all right." I've just been in an insane asylum, you know, looking for a girlfriend. (laughs) You know, like you keep-

Katt Williams 17:09 Right.

Joe Rogan 17:09 You have to be in a place where you're around good people, like normal people. That's better for you.

Katt Williams 17:16 You're not trying to say that people that happen to live there are not nice people. That's not-

Joe Rogan 17:21 There's a lot of nice people there, for sure.

Katt Williams 17:22 Here, here's the thing. Hopefully we can agree that the problem is with extremes.

Joe Rogan 17:28 Yes.

Katt Williams 17:29 Extreme anything.

Joe Rogan 17:30 Yes.

Katt Williams 17:30 Extreme left is as vicious and as, as far right.

Joe Rogan 17:37 Yep.

Katt Williams 17:38 It's, you know, the middleness of it all that makes America great.

Joe Rogan 17:43 For sure.

Katt Williams 17:43 And Texas has been front and center of that forever.

Joe Rogan 17:49 I think a big part of it though is how much does your government control you, even when things don't even make sense? Like in California, they made flavored vapes illegal.

Katt Williams 17:59 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 18:00 Can you imagine?

Katt Williams 18:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:00 You're like, "Strawberry mist is our number one problem."

Katt Williams 18:02 That was fine, but they let it also hurt Black people in that it counted menthol as a flavor and hurt Newports.

Joe Rogan 18:11 So you can't sell menthol cigarettes in California?

Katt Williams 18:14 Right, they have their own cigarettes.

Joe Rogan 18:16 That is wild.

Katt Williams 18:16 They have non-menthol Newports. Yeah, it's terrible.

Joe Rogan 18:19 Why do Black people like menthol so much?... what's that about? It's a totally different type of cigarette.

Katt Williams 18:27 You're gonna get me canceled. Um-

Joe Rogan 18:29 No.

Katt Williams 18:30 This is very racist, this conversation.

Joe Rogan 18:32 Is it?

Katt Williams 18:32 Even e- even though neither of us are. Go figure.

Joe Rogan 18:36 Just talking about a type of cigarette other people enjoy?

Katt Williams 18:39 Just, just, just us saying, just us saying, "Why do black people like Newports so much?"

Joe Rogan 18:43 Menthol cigarettes.

Katt Williams 18:44 And a black, and a black person actually getting ready to answer this, ugh, it's terrible on all ends. Um-

Joe Rogan 18:50 I don't think it is.

Katt Williams 18:51 Well, I don't think it is either-

Joe Rogan 18:53 Yeah.

Katt Williams 18:53 ... because we have a, a new cigarette.

Joe Rogan 18:54 It's like if you started asking me about spaghetti, I'm not gonna get offended. If you started asking me about Italian food or why, why are Italian people so loud, I'm not gonna (laughs) not gonna get offended.

Katt Williams 19:04 How many people have ever died of pasta-related illnesses?

Joe Rogan 19:08 (laughs)

Katt Williams 19:08 A lot, Joe.

Joe Rogan 19:09 A lot of fatsoes out there kicking the bucket, bro.

Katt Williams 19:12 That's, that's not 'cause of pasta. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:13 That's an overabundance of carbohydrates, sir.

Katt Williams 19:15 They were gonna be fat wherever they lived, sir.

Joe Rogan 19:17 Maybe. That's a overindulgence in-

Katt Williams 19:18 Gonna be great bread eaters in Uzbekistan.

Joe Rogan 19:20 ... delicious high-carbohydrate food, they couldn't stop it. People are addicted to food like they're addicted to anything, and if there's a thing that I could ever be addicted to, it's that.

Katt Williams 19:29 Right.

Joe Rogan 19:29 (exhales)

Katt Williams 19:29 That's all of us, though.

Joe Rogan 19:30 All of us.

Katt Williams 19:31 And what a blessing.

Joe Rogan 19:33 Yeah. We have so much.

Katt Williams 19:34 Starving people aren't-

Joe Rogan 19:36 Exactly.

Katt Williams 19:36 ... addicted to anything and they don't have food-related illnesses.

Joe Rogan 19:39 Exactly. Exactly.

Katt Williams 19:41 But back to where we were.

Joe Rogan 19:43 Yeah.

Katt Williams 19:44 You were asking me-

Joe Rogan 19:44 The left versus the right. I just-

Katt Williams 19:45 ... about the, about the menthol cigarettes.

Joe Rogan 19:47 Oh, that's right.

Katt Williams 19:47 And, and the answer is, um, we value strength in product. So there's this whole thing with liquor and malt liquor and the difference between the two and one is richer and stronger.

Joe Rogan 20:15 Oh.

Katt Williams 20:15 And, um-

Joe Rogan 20:16 The more potent version.

Katt Williams 20:17 Right, and as a-

Joe Rogan 20:18 Okay, that makes sense.

Katt Williams 20:19 As a people, we tend to go with those products.

Joe Rogan 20:24 Things that are stronger.

Katt Williams 20:25 Uh-

Joe Rogan 20:25 That makes sense.

Katt Williams 20:26 Right. Like before things were called concentrate.

Joe Rogan 20:30 Yeah.

Katt Williams 20:30 That's what we appreciated-

Joe Rogan 20:33 Mm. That makes sense.

Katt Williams 20:34 ... was concentrated. And the fact that, um, menthol is a natural thing, so you know-

Joe Rogan 20:45 Right.

Katt Williams 20:45 ... anybody who is from the South knows about mint plants and, you know, we've always-

Joe Rogan 20:53 And menthol used as a skincare product, like injuries-

Katt Williams 20:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:56 ... and shit.

Katt Williams 20:57 Right. Like, you appreciate that as a flavor profile as well.

Joe Rogan 21:01 Right.

Katt Williams 21:01 You know?

Joe Rogan 21:02 That makes sense.

Katt Williams 21:04 The mint julep.

Joe Rogan 21:06 It's just, telling people they can't have that anymore, who the fuck are you?

Katt Williams 21:11 Well-

Joe Rogan 21:11 That's my position.

Katt Williams 21:12 Well, I, and that's a f- a noble position and we appreciate the fact that you represent that. But the truth of the matter is not pretty, and the truth of the matter is that most people would like to be controlled more by their government if they had-

Joe Rogan 21:28 To make it easier? Maybe.

Katt Williams 21:30 Most people are all for government control, as long as they don't have to discuss it.

Joe Rogan 21:36 Yeah. As long as it works in their favor, they'll give up a lot of rights. And then hopefully the next administration that's-

Katt Williams 21:43 Rights are generally worthless at the time.

Joe Rogan 21:46 ... right one will abuse those rights. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of people that if the government can make life easier, a lot of people have it hard, right? So the government-

Katt Williams 21:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:53 ... comes in and says, "I'm gonna make it easier for you."

Katt Williams 21:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 21:56 "But I'm gonna need certain requirements of you. I'm gonna need you to have a digital ID. That digital ID will be attached to a social credit score, and we're gonna give you universal basic income. You no longer have to worry about food or shelter. You'll be taken care of, and now you can pursue your dreams."

Katt Williams 22:12 Is this the mark of the Beast you're speaking of, sir?

Joe Rogan 22:15 Yeah. I think it is.

Katt Williams 22:15 Right. That that's-

Joe Rogan 22:17 I look at-

Katt Williams 22:17 ... the whole thing, is it's never been difficult at any point in history. Like, like, we got a dude right now that's telling you front and center that I put a computer in somebody's head, guys.

Joe Rogan 22:29 Right.

Katt Williams 22:30 Like-

Joe Rogan 22:31 Yeah.

Katt Williams 22:31 Like-

Joe Rogan 22:32 And everybody's going, "Yay." (clapping)

Katt Williams 22:34 It's the greatest thing in the world, sir.

Joe Rogan 22:37 Yeah.

Katt Williams 22:37 But we understood this 15, 20, 25 years ago. We understood while watching Tron or while watching Cyborg, we understood that there was just this small line medically that needed to be crossed-

Joe Rogan 22:53 (laughs)

Katt Williams 22:53 ... in order for us to be able to do these things.

Joe Rogan 22:56 Yeah.

Katt Williams 22:57 Like, if you can hook a battery up to a octopus and make it go like this, you're halfway there.

Joe Rogan 23:04 Yeah.

Katt Williams 23:05 Why? Because this, this is, uh, this is a machine that we have here.

Joe Rogan 23:10 Mm-hmm. It's a biological machine.

Katt Williams 23:12 Right. And once you-

Joe Rogan 23:13 Yeah.

Katt Williams 23:13 ... understand it, you understand it.

Joe Rogan 23:14 Yeah.

Katt Williams 23:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:15 And you could fuck with that machine. You could juice it up, you could fucking get it stronger, get it smarter.

Katt Williams 23:20 This is-

Joe Rogan 23:20 You could do a lot of things with that machine.

Katt Williams 23:22 This is what the Anunnaki said.

Joe Rogan 23:24 Yeah.

Katt Williams 23:25 This is wh- how you know that these are not made-up things from people's imagination, because everything is too factual. Like, like this necklace, right?

Joe Rogan 23:36 Right.

Katt Williams 23:36 People online were like, "Yeah, is that Buddhist or that's, uh, this or that?" It, it's none of that. Like, like I just try to find the answers to things. So I, I-

Joe Rogan 23:45 Is that a ship wheel?

Katt Williams 23:47 I designed this because this is that thing that you see that all the Anunnaki guys that have that look like a wristwatch-

Joe Rogan 23:56 Oh.

Katt Williams 23:56 ... and they always have it and you're always trying to see what that is.

Joe Rogan 24:00 Yeah. What is that?

Katt Williams 24:01 It is a time and it's a compass. It's a timekeeping compass.

Joe Rogan 24:08 That's what that is?

Katt Williams 24:09 So, yeah. So that's what made the carrier of great importance, because he was able to do things that were magical in nature, like go somewhere-... and get right back.

Joe Rogan 24:26 (laughs)

Katt Williams 24:28 (laughs) Like, you know what I mean? Like-

Joe Rogan 24:30 So yeah, that, that thing on the wrist was a compass?

Katt Williams 24:33 A timekeeping compass.

Joe Rogan 24:35 A timekeeping compass.

Katt Williams 24:37 Yeah. A... oh, right. So, you had to believe in things that didn't exist at some point, like magnetics, and, um, distance, and-

Joe Rogan 24:53 Right.

Katt Williams 24:55 ... probabilities, and-

Joe Rogan 24:58 Right.

Katt Williams 25:00 Right. That's how, like, if you, if you were to read like thousands of books about people that knew a bunch of shit, like you fi- start finding out that it's not really about knowing anything, it's about where to go to get the information. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 25:21 Yeah.

Katt Williams 25:22 Um, so like when we look at all the ruins all around the world, like we're not seeing ruins of colleges and universities, and all of that. We're seeing temples, and synagogues, and churches, and ... But people don't understand that that's where that information was coming from, for that period of time. When we went to these temples, they weren't in there singing and reading from a book. They were in there being taught things that they were able to go put into practice. You see what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 26:00 Yeah.

Katt Williams 26:00 Like, they were being taught ar- agriculture. You know what I mean? Like, they were being taught... (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 26:07 Yeah.

Katt Williams 26:07 Yeah. If-

Joe Rogan 26:08 They had some very bizarre knowledge too. They had a detailed knowledge of cosmology. They, they-

Katt Williams 26:14 So-

Joe Rogan 26:14 ... they had a really detailed knowledge of our solar system.

Katt Williams 26:18 100% of the writings across the world, whoever said anything about space or the universe or what was out there, why were all of them correct, Joe? It's not even possible. Like, w- w- how did they know that Mars was the red planet, and why was it a worldwide fact?

Joe Rogan 26:42 Right.

Katt Williams 26:43 Planetarily, that Saturn had rings. Like-

Joe Rogan 26:48 Yeah.

Katt Williams 26:48 ... based upon what information? Because nobody worldwide is disagreeing. Nobody's like, "Oh, I thought of this," or, "I, it came to me in a dream." Nobody's saying that anywhere in anybody's civilization. Everybody's civilization says this information came from the people that came from there.

Joe Rogan 27:10 Yeah.

Katt Williams 27:11 There's, like there are no coincidences.

Joe Rogan 27:14 Well, they know that Mars used to have an atmosphere. Mars used to have an atmosphere, it used to have water. Something happened to its environment.

Katt Williams 27:22 If, if that's correct-

Joe Rogan 27:23 Yeah.

Katt Williams 27:23 ... then there's a guy right now saying he's getting ready to put people up there.

Joe Rogan 27:27 Yep. Exactly.

Katt Williams 27:29 You see?

Joe Rogan 27:29 Restart it all over again.

Katt Williams 27:31 50 years ago, there was no water in our whole universe, let them tell it.

Joe Rogan 27:36 I-

Katt Williams 27:36 Now there's been water almost everywhere. There's water on the moon, for crying out loud.

Joe Rogan 27:39 Are you familiar with the Younger Dryas Impact Theory? Do you know what that is?

Katt Williams 27:45 Say what it is.

Joe Rogan 27:46 Younger Dryas Impact Theory is a theory that Earth goes through a cycle of like comet storms, every June and every November. And most of the time, nothing happens. But every now and again, we get hit. We get hit big. And they think we got hit big 11,800 plus years ago, and that that had to restart civilization. And that, what you're seeing from like Mesopotamia, all these people 6,000 years later, they think that is a rebuilding of civilization that was already like just whispers and stories and tales, and then they rebuilt it again thousands of years later. But if you go back to like 11,800 BC, uh, 11,800 years ago, you're, you're dealing with who we thought were hunter-gatherers, and now we know they weren't. Now we know they built complex stone structures. And the real speculation is, they think that the people who built the pyramids built them way earlier than the conventional dating is. They think there's real evidence that shows-

Katt Williams 28:41 No.

Joe Rogan 28:41 ... they're 9,000, 11,000 years old easy.

Katt Williams 28:43 No people built the pyramids.

Joe Rogan 28:45 No people?

Katt Williams 28:46 No.

Joe Rogan 28:46 Who built them?

Katt Williams 28:49 No people built the pyramids. And if you, and if you look around the world, you see certain telltale things that let you know that advanced machinery was in usage. Look, there- (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 29:03 For sure.

Katt Williams 29:03 ... this whole thing where slaves are stronger people is a fallacy. We like to believe that slaves are stronger. Slaves are weaker, because they don't eat the right food, and they live a terrible life. Um, your slave population is not smarter or in better condition-

Joe Rogan 29:22 Well, they don't-

Katt Williams 29:23 ... unless you're enslaving the Jews.

Joe Rogan 29:24 ... they don't think slaves built the pyramid. They stopped thinking that quite a while ago. They think it was actually skilled labor, because of the way they were eating, they found l- what their camps were, where their food was, they ate like very good food. So they think they were actually skilled labor, but also probably forced skilled labor. But that's probably not the people who built it. That's probably the people that were working on it. That's the-

Katt Williams 29:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:44 ... probably the people that worked in the village or in the, in, you know, in the city.

Katt Williams 29:48 How many companies have done renovations on the White House?

Joe Rogan 29:53 Two.

Katt Williams 29:53 None of them have done enough renovation that they can claim it's their white house. So yes, thousands of years worth of people were there, but that doesn't have anything to do with the building of it.

Joe Rogan 30:06 Who do you think built it?

Katt Williams 30:07 (clears throat) Well, understand, we, we know enough now to understand that this was a complex. This was not, um ...

Joe Rogan 30:15 Right.

Katt Williams 30:15 (clears throat) We've been led to believe that this is how much they worshiped their dead bodies.

Joe Rogan 30:23 Right.

Katt Williams 30:25 But the evidence doesn't show any of that.

Joe Rogan 30:28 No, it doesn't.

Katt Williams 30:29 Like, like when you see inside, when they have those intricate carvings and paintings and stuff in gold and stuff, you have to remember, this is in a windowless room.... folks, there's no candle soot. There's no... There's, (laughs) uh, it, it's clearly a power plant and built specifically for that location on this planet for usage.

Joe Rogan 30:53 What do you think it was powered by?

Katt Williams 30:55 Um, the, um, hot water springs underneath it.

Joe Rogan 31:01 So, it was powered by the hot water springs?

Katt Williams 31:06 Mm.

Joe Rogan 31:06 And to what... To what end? How do you know all this, first of all? Is this marijuana talk? (laughs)

Katt Williams 31:11 I don't, I don't think so.

Joe Rogan 31:14 (laughs)

Katt Williams 31:14 Um, this is, um-

Joe Rogan 31:17 Where did you read this?

Katt Williams 31:20 If you, if you follow information about humankind, you find out that in all parts of history, people were coming to this region for their information and their knowledge and their-

Joe Rogan 31:34 Yes.

Katt Williams 31:34 ... things that were forbidden and their-

Joe Rogan 31:37 Yep.

Katt Williams 31:37 These, these were not, um... These were the highest of human civilization here.

Joe Rogan 31:44 Not even comparable to anyone else.

Katt Williams 31:46 No.

Joe Rogan 31:46 Nor since. Nor since.

Katt Williams 31:48 Now or... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:49 Nor since.

Katt Williams 31:50 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:50 The Great Pyramid of Giza is insane.

Katt Williams 31:52 Right. (laughs) Like-

Joe Rogan 31:53 It's insane.

Katt Williams 31:54 Like, even Tesla says that this is where he came to get the information. But if you follow that information pathway, um, it leads you to this character called Thoth, right? And the Emerald Tablets, um, of Thoth are literally mind-changing and mind-blowing, just because you understand when this was written and the terminology being used is, um-

Joe Rogan 32:29 When was it written?

Katt Williams 32:29 ... far too accurate for now. So, uh, I'm sure that-

Joe Rogan 32:41 Here it is. Emerald Tablet. Also known as the Smar... Smargdine... Smardine Tablet or the Tabula Smara... Smardina. Boy, I fucked that up. Uh, it's a hermetic-

Katt Williams 32:59 Hermes Trismegistus.

Joe Rogan 33:01 Yeah. A cryptic hermetic text, it was highly regarded by Islamic and European alchemists as the foundation of their art. Though attributed to the legendary Hellenistic figure, Hermes Tris... Trismegistus. How do you say it, bro? How do you say it?

Katt Williams 33:16 Trismegistus.

Joe Rogan 33:17 Trismegistus.

Katt Williams 33:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:19 The text of the Emerald Tablet first appears in a number of early medieval Arabic sources, the oldest of which dates to the late 8th or early 9th century. It was translated into Latin several times in the 12th and 13th centuries. Numerous interpretations and commentaries followed. So, what does it say, though? The Egyptian god Thoth. Okay, it says, "Beginning in the 2nd century BC onwards, Greek texts attributed to Hermes, uh, a syncretic combination of Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian god Thoth appeared in Greco-Roman Egypt. Those texts knows that... known as the Hermetica are heterogeneous, hetero- heterogeneous collection of works that in the modern-day era are commonly subdivided into two groups: the technical Hermetica compromising of astrological, medical, botanical, alchemical, and magical writings, and the religio-philosophical Hermetica comprising of mystical philosophical writings." Holy shit.

Katt Williams 34:19 Is this weed talk, Joseph?

Joe Rogan 34:21 No, this is so legit.

Narrator 34:23 That's really good stuff.

Katt Williams 34:23 So legit, my man.

Joe Rogan 34:24 So, this dude was probably an alien. (laughs)

Katt Williams 34:28 Dude, first of all, there are no probablys.

Joe Rogan 34:31 (laughs) Yeah.

Katt Williams 34:31 That's the benefit once you hear it or read it, um, is the fact that it's given in first person, and that's not possible. The things that are being said are impossible. Enough time has passed, though That is not like that. B- but-

Joe Rogan 34:49 I'm gonna read that.

Katt Williams 34:50 He literally says, "Hey, there's a spaceship on Earth, and this is where it is."

Joe Rogan 34:58 (laughs)

Katt Williams 34:59 Because if all you care about is information, right? Like, that's what you start to see, is when you get to everybody's civilization, Asian, Indian, African, when you get to the crux of their information, nobody's disagreeing with anybody.

Joe Rogan 35:20 Right. If you figured out who... how the fuck they did it, i- if there was any logical explanation that people could have done it, I would be on board. I'd be like, "Well, okay."

Katt Williams 35:36 But there aren't any people saying that.

Joe Rogan 35:38 Unle- Human beings can... There are... It's possible if you had enough power and you had enough engineering and mathematics that you could figure out how to design and construct the pyramid.

Katt Williams 35:49 Yes.

Joe Rogan 35:49 But then, the logistical problem of getting the stones from hundreds of miles away, massive, massive, several ton, up to 80-ton stones.

Katt Williams 36:00 Joe.

Joe Rogan 36:01 That's crazy.

Katt Williams 36:01 If you... Even if-

Joe Rogan 36:02 500 miles away, some of them.

Katt Williams 36:03 Even if you could do it, let me ask you this. Would you build it on sand? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:09 (laughs) I don't think it was originally sand. See, that's the thing.

Katt Williams 36:12 Right, this was a fertile valley.

Joe Rogan 36:14 Yeah, it was. Yeah.

Katt Williams 36:15 Right.

Joe Rogan 36:16 The Nile Valley.

Katt Williams 36:17 That's-

Joe Rogan 36:17 That was the reason why they chose it.

Katt Williams 36:17 They had electric and wifi and they had all of that.

Joe Rogan 36:22 They probably did. And that's probably where the Younger Dryas impact theory comes in.

Katt Williams 36:27 The greatest trick is to make us believe that people back then were dumber, and we're smarter.

Joe Rogan 36:34 Right, right.

Katt Williams 36:35 And that whole thing is a fallacy.

Joe Rogan 36:37 Yeah, that's definitely not real.

Katt Williams 36:39 And it's... But it's worth it-... for us to believe that.

Joe Rogan 36:44 I think we are the, the children of the survivors of some great catastrophe, and I think that's why every single-

Katt Williams 36:52 Not everybody.

Joe Rogan 36:52 ... ancient biblical scholar... What?

Katt Williams 36:54 Not everybody. Some people-

Joe Rogan 36:56 What do you mean?

Katt Williams 36:57 ... are that.

Joe Rogan 36:58 Some people are the survivors?

Katt Williams 36:59 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:00 Well, I mean, most human beings probably got wiped out in comet storms, and I think we probably got... The... There's been points in history that they know of where human beings got down to, like, 7,000 people.

Katt Williams 37:13 Who's counting them?

Joe Rogan 37:15 I think they use genetics, and they back trace, and they try to find individuals that were capable of having X amount of children. I wonder how they do the calculations. It's a good question.

Katt Williams 37:24 The things in Hollywood-

Joe Rogan 37:26 I'm just guessing, honestly.

Katt Williams 37:27 ... and in, and in writing that have attracted our attention worldwide were all based on some truth. So, all the stories of hobbits and... Have been successful in all of their genres. Why? Because they existed. Like, like, we now know that there were whole pygmy groups and that, you know, we understand that that's what the seven dwarves was.

Joe Rogan 37:55 Yeah. Like that Island of Flores man that they found. The, the, they literally call it a hobbit. It was like a three-foot-tall person that was covered in hair, smaller head than us, used tools.

Katt Williams 38:11 A- as a, as a preteen, I knew that Atlantis really existed just because of how it was spoken of offhandedly-

Joe Rogan 38:26 Mm-hmm. Just that it was known to exist.

Katt Williams 38:29 ... in early writings.

Joe Rogan 38:30 Yeah.

Katt Williams 38:32 Well, not just mentioned, but mentioned offhandedly like you would a place that's just a landmark.

Joe Rogan 38:40 Right. We landed in New York before we went to Montreal. Yeah.

Katt Williams 38:44 We were in Austin.

Joe Rogan 38:45 Yeah.

Katt Williams 38:46 By, by Dallas.

Joe Rogan 38:47 Right. Exactly.

Katt Williams 38:50 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:52 Have you ever seen the, the guy that thinks that they found the spot in Africa? What is that, uh, that, the ring called?

Narrator 39:02 Uh-

Joe Rogan 39:02 That Jimmy Corsetti is, uh... He's on this. This dude is an, an expert in this shit, and he's an expert in, uh, ancient catastrophes and, and the remnants and the evidence that shows that these civilizations existed and something happened. And he's focused on this one area in Africa that he believes is Atlantis, and he, he says it has all the hallmark characteristics, and there's all the evidence of massive water erosion surrounding the area, that at one point in time, it's very likely that this area got hit with a massive flood. And it matches all the characteristics of Atlantis. When you see it, when you see the way the, the concentric circles of rings-

Katt Williams 39:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:46 Like, try explaining this.

Katt Williams 39:48 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 39:48 Like, you're gonna see it. Now, try explaining this through a natural phenomena that doesn't exist anywhere around it.

Katt Williams 39:53 Right.

Joe Rogan 39:54 Ccentric circles that is near what used to be water, and there's heavy water erosion marks all around it that indicate massive-

Katt Williams 40:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:03 ... amounts of quick-flowing water in a very short period of time.

Katt Williams 40:07 Right. Yeah. Uh-

Narrator 40:09 Look at this. I forget what it's called, but I know exactly where it is. It's right here. So, you can zoom in. ............................

Joe Rogan 40:13 That's it. Look at that thing. Bro, are you fucking kidding me?

Narrator 40:19 The Richat Structure is what it's called.

Joe Rogan 40:20 That's it, the Richat Structure. I mean, are you fucking kidding me?

Narrator 40:25 I think if you go 3D, you can see the...

Joe Rogan 40:28 Now, imagine if that was this massive city of concentric circles and walls and a thriving population, and then it gets hit with this water. You could see the water erosion all over the place.

Narrator 40:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:41 The whole thing looks like it's washed out. See it?

Katt Williams 40:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:44 It looks like it was washed out 'cause it was.

Katt Williams 40:47 Right.

Narrator 40:47 And that's salt, I believe.

Katt Williams 40:49 But that's what makes-

Joe Rogan 40:49 Yes. There's salt there. That's the other thing.

Katt Williams 40:51 ... between this and the Garden of Eden locations. Like, these are the two... These are two of the great landmarks in, uh, human history, and so-

Joe Rogan 41:07 Where's the Garden of Eden?

Katt Williams 41:09 Well, when you read the stories, right, the, the thing that strikes you is that it's so specific. Like, it says things in talking about the Garden of Eden that, wait a minute, if I can't find what you're talking about, this isn't even real. You see what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 41:30 Right.

Katt Williams 41:30 Like, like, where the Garden of Eden was, there's, I think, four rivers that come from it, and then it names two of 'em. Like... I don't wanna be specific because at least he's gonna bring it up. But it's like the Nile and the Euphrates, right?

Joe Rogan 41:50 Right.

Katt Williams 41:50 So, you know two of 'em. And it's saying, you know, where the four meet, this is where it is. And, um... Yeah. My whole life, I was like, (clears throat) "This, this is really weird." 'Cause at one period of time, we're thinking no flood happened. There's so many things that have lined up from these great religious books-

Joe Rogan 42:18 Yeah.

Katt Williams 42:19 ... to where, where we can see that, no, something happened here, like...

Joe Rogan 42:22 Something happened, and these are stories of people telling stories that have been told to them for about a thousand years before anybody wrote it down.

Katt Williams 42:28 But this is why. Right.

Joe Rogan 42:30 Yeah. 'Cause, 'cause something happened.

Katt Williams 42:30 This is why they were told.

Joe Rogan 42:32 Yeah.

Katt Williams 42:32 And that's what you... That's the difference between those of us that, um, want to know the world's mysteries and conspiracy...... theorists. Like-

Joe Rogan 42:44 Right.

Katt Williams 42:44 ... there's nothing to a cons- conspiracy theorist because you're not producing what you're using. But these world mysteries, like, um, that's harder to do. A, a lie is not something that people are gonna repeat for generations on generations. It's being repeated like that because people have reason to believe it to be true. And, and, um, as you go through history, you see that, um, those are the stories that we still talk about, but they're still valid. Like, the, there were writings that the African Dogon tribe is-

Joe Rogan 43:26 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 43:27 ... like-

Joe Rogan 43:28 Right.

Katt Williams 43:28 ... like, like, they're-

Joe Rogan 43:29 From like the Sirius star system?

Katt Williams 43:31 ... like, they're saying very specific-

Joe Rogan 43:33 Yeah.

Katt Williams 43:34 ... things and for hundreds of years, we're going, "You guys are idiots. You don't know what you're talking about." Right?

Joe Rogan 43:43 (laughs) Right.

Katt Williams 43:43 Like, somebody will have a fake star story.

Joe Rogan 43:46 Right.

Katt Williams 43:47 You see?

Joe Rogan 43:47 Right.

Katt Williams 43:48 And now, we get to the point where we can actually see what they were talking about and it's-

Joe Rogan 43:52 What if we find out that we're aliens? That we were just dropped off here a long ass time... And the Adam and Eve story is the, the story of the place where they created us.

Katt Williams 44:03 I'm sure we're the only people in the universe that think like that.

Joe Rogan 44:07 You think so? Why do you think that?

Katt Williams 44:14 Um, no h- no portion of humankind's story differs from that.

Joe Rogan 44:23 It's all creation story.

Katt Williams 44:26 Like, if you go... That's why NASA and Space Force are not more forthcoming because the further you get in space, the more obvious shit is. Like, once you're up there and you're looking down, this shit doesn't look like there is no God. It looks like you're in the middle of somebody's workshop and they just showed you every single way that every star can be made, every single way a planet can be made, every way that a black hole can be, a galaxy, a universe, and then showed you the best of the best. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:09 (laughs) It's the spot. I mean, in our solar system, we're the best neighborhood that's ever existed. They all suck. Every other planet sucks.

Katt Williams 45:24 We're rudimentary enough that we still require environmental help.

Joe Rogan 45:29 Right, until you get that chip. Once you get that chip-

Katt Williams 45:32 At each point-

Joe Rogan 45:33 (laughs)

Katt Williams 45:33 ... i- it would be like, it would be like saying people that, um, didn't learn how to ride horses, they were slow. Like, they couldn't run fast enough, so they got horses.

Joe Rogan 45:45 Right.

Katt Williams 45:46 No, it didn't have anything to do with that. Better is better.

Joe Rogan 45:50 That's, that's really what it's gonna be, better is better.

Katt Williams 45:52 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 45:53 We're all gonna integrate.

Katt Williams 45:54 Like, we would, we, we would've told you 30 years ago that we wouldn't need a Space Force unless we went up there and found something.

Joe Rogan 46:02 I think the Space Force, the idea is that they're worried about-

Katt Williams 46:05 It's not an idea.

Joe Rogan 46:06 ... someone else being in space first with weapons flying around.

Katt Williams 46:10 You mean us?

Joe Rogan 46:11 Yeah. Well-

Katt Williams 46:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:13 ... if we can do it, they could do it. That's the thing.

Katt Williams 46:15 They, who is they?

Joe Rogan 46:16 Whoever it is.

Katt Williams 46:17 No.

Joe Rogan 46:18 China.

Katt Williams 46:18 There's only humankind-

Joe Rogan 46:20 Yes.

Katt Williams 46:20 ... and alien.

Joe Rogan 46:21 Oh, I agree.

Katt Williams 46:22 Right.

Joe Rogan 46:22 The problem is, this is what we really need, we really need this Neurolink to lock us all together so everybody could read everybody's mind. That's what's gonna happen and then there's gonna be no more leaders.

Katt Williams 46:33 Okay.

Joe Rogan 46:33 There's gonna be no more governments, there's gonna be no more-

Katt Williams 46:35 Okay, you're being very controversial right now.

Joe Rogan 46:37 (laughs)

Katt Williams 46:37 Okay, so look, that, that-

Joe Rogan 46:39 Better is better.

Katt Williams 46:40 ... that exists already. So just understand that, um, the worldwide government is way (laughs) smarter than we give them credit for because we, they have us believing they don't do nothing. But the truth is, like, like there's no such thing as the government, um, is in bed with the internet. No, the internet is a government installation that they allowed the world to use for free so that they could have the information willingly because you're on it.

Joe Rogan 47:20 That's what it became.

Katt Williams 47:22 Exac-

Joe Rogan 47:23 But I think it's just-

Katt Williams 47:23 That's what it was-

Joe Rogan 47:24 ... the progression.

Katt Williams 47:25 ... to become.

Joe Rogan 47:25 You think so?

Katt Williams 47:26 Yes.

Joe Rogan 47:26 I think the progression of technology oftentimes lead it, leads itself to like even cellphones. At first, it was Michael Douglas walking on the beach in Wall Street looking, looking amazing with that brick, carrying that big brick. Like, "Look at that guy. He's got a phone with no cord. He's out on the beach. This is insane," to everybody having a phone.

Katt Williams 47:45 Yeah. But not to everybody because those in the ham radio community and people with the CBs, they didn't feel like that was cutting edge because it really wasn't. Like, like, it's still cutting edge-

Joe Rogan 47:59 To be able to walk around-

Katt Williams 48:00 ... this is-

Joe Rogan 48:00 ... with a device. It's a leap in technology.

Katt Williams 48:03 Here's the thing. When you look at all of our inventions, that's when you know that these, um, space encounters were real because we only have advancement in a couple of industries in the world and everything else is nothing. So, um, like the microwave that they had 30 years ago, it, it looks the same. It's the same microwave now. Why? Because it wasn't, it was done as a military thing. It was supposed to be a weapon and then they found out, you know, it heats up food and they put a door on it. And so, it hasn't changed at all because-Invention is very difficult. And, um... (laughs) We-

Joe Rogan 48:52 Do you, do you subscribe to the idea that we get back engineered?

Katt Williams 48:55 A- absolutely.

Joe Rogan 48:56 Yeah?

Katt Williams 48:56 That's why those leaps, we don't see those leaps in anything else, is my point. Like, like-

Joe Rogan 49:04 Yeah. There's so much-

Katt Williams 49:05 The, the real time-

Joe Rogan 49:06 ... speculation about the creation of, uh, a bunch of different things that came out of Roswell. Fiber optics.

Katt Williams 49:14 Right. But remember-

Joe Rogan 49:14 Yeah.

Katt Williams 49:15 ... 20 years ago, 15 years ago, this was crazy talk.

Joe Rogan 49:18 Crazy talk, yeah.

Katt Williams 49:19 But, but, but-

Joe Rogan 49:19 But now, it's the New York Times-

Katt Williams 49:20 ... but it's not. Like, it's at the point it... At, at this point, like, Area 51 would have to be doing something.

Joe Rogan 49:32 They were definitely doing something.

Katt Williams 49:33 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:34 Yeah.

Katt Williams 49:34 And nobody's telling a differing story as to what it is.

Joe Rogan 49:38 Right.

Katt Williams 49:39 Like, people have great imaginations all through history. They could make up something. The only damning information is if you read 3,000 accounts of, of these entities and realize, "Wait a minute. Why is everybody describing the same couple of beings?"

Joe Rogan 50:01 Right.

Katt Williams 50:01 Like, there's no-

Joe Rogan 50:03 (laughs)

Katt Williams 50:04 ... (laughs) right. There's no outliers. Like, every-

Joe Rogan 50:07 There's, like, three different things they describe. Yeah, they describe... They said that there's, th- that they've documented eight to 12.

Katt Williams 50:16 We're not talking about English-speaking people. We're talking about worldwide.

Joe Rogan 50:20 Worldwide.

Katt Williams 50:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 50:21 Worldwide. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Katt Williams 50:22 Like, that's what is striking.

Joe Rogan 50:24 Indigenous people in Australia drew them. Yeah. (laughs)

Katt Williams 50:32 Right. Nobody's saying anything outlandish.

Joe Rogan 50:35 Yeah.

Katt Williams 50:35 And that's what you get to when you go religiously-

Joe Rogan 50:40 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 50:41 ... or...

Joe Rogan 50:44 Well, the alien thing is a bit of a religion to a lot of folks. They, they don't wanna believe anything fake.

Katt Williams 50:49 It's a necessary component.

Joe Rogan 50:50 Yeah.

Katt Williams 50:51 I- whatever religion you're a part of, at some point, it says-

Joe Rogan 50:56 You were contacted.

Katt Williams 50:57 ... that there was-

Joe Rogan 50:58 Yeah.

Katt Williams 50:59 ... a fight in heaven, and-

Joe Rogan 51:01 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 51:01 ... you know-

Joe Rogan 51:03 Yeah.

Katt Williams 51:03 ... this happened and that happened.

Joe Rogan 51:05 Yep, every-

Katt Williams 51:05 And-

Joe Rogan 51:05 ... single one of 'em.

Katt Williams 51:06 Every one without... Nobody's telling a different story.

Joe Rogan 51:11 Right.

Katt Williams 51:11 Everybody's telling the same stories.

Joe Rogan 51:16 Yeah.

Katt Williams 51:16 Like, that's how you know that, um, vagina and gold are universal things, because in everybody's story, none of these otherworldly interests, entities had any interest in anything other than women, um-

Joe Rogan 51:39 And gold.

Katt Williams 51:40 Right, pussy or gold. Like, because... And, and you understand that now when you start learning about what's in space-

Joe Rogan 51:48 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 51:48 ... because you can see that any element or any commodity that we sell here is abundant in space, like trash, um. You know, they found one meteor that was worth all the money-

Joe Rogan 52:06 On Earth?

Katt Williams 52:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:07 (laughs)

Katt Williams 52:07 Se- 770 billion? No, it's-

Joe Rogan 52:11 Trillion? Whatever it is.

Katt Williams 52:12 It was another number. Some crazy num-

Joe Rogan 52:14 Some crazy number. (laughs)

Katt Williams 52:14 Right, right. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:17 Wow. Y- they know that there's, there's spots, uh, in space that have abundant minerals that are very valuable. And the, the, the thing about the, um, the Sumerian story, the Sumerian text story... Realize the story we make, everyone a billionaire on this earth. Everyone would be a billionaire. (laughs)

Katt Williams 52:37 But I, I, I-

Joe Rogan 52:37 Every person would earn seven, several billion dollars.

Katt Williams 52:41 It, it... So it sounds jokey, right? But understand, somebody got this contract. Like, they-

Joe Rogan 52:47 Right.

Katt Williams 52:47 ... broke this up into several worldwide contracts. Like, this is-

Joe Rogan 52:51 10,000 quadrillion.

Katt Williams 52:53 It's just there.

Joe Rogan 52:55 But here's the thing, if you got that much gold, is gold valuable anymore? 'Cause part of the things about gold is that there's not that much of it. You know, if you look at the-

Katt Williams 53:02 That-

Joe Rogan 53:02 You ever seen the number of gold on earth?

Katt Williams 53:04 ... that's, that's not necessary in capitalism. They showed us that with diamonds. This is-

Joe Rogan 53:09 That's true. They could hide it.

Katt Williams 53:10 ... it is about the perception of things. And, um, if I buy up all of something, it is rare now, immediately-

Joe Rogan 53:18 Right.

Katt Williams 53:18 ... just because I have control of all of it.

Joe Rogan 53:21 Right.

Katt Williams 53:21 And that is worth killing Tesla over.

Joe Rogan 53:24 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 53:25 And that's why-

Joe Rogan 53:28 Yeah.

Katt Williams 53:28 ... the people are still in business in Hollywood, because everything's a commodity.

Joe Rogan 53:33 Did you ever read, um... Uh, you ever heard of Zecharia Sitchin? Zecharia Sitchin was a biblical scholar who, uh, he deciphered the Sumerian texts, and he's, like, an expert in language. And when he deciphered the... He might not have been a biblical scholar. Might just have been a language expert. But either way-

Katt Williams 53:53 I love it.

Joe Rogan 53:53 ... he de- deciphered these texts-

Katt Williams 53:55 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:56 ... and wrote these books about w- the real meaning behind everything they were saying, and he said that the reason why we are so fascinated with gold is that the Anunnaki l- literally would have us mine gold for them, 'cause they needed it to protect their atmosphere. So, what they would do is take gold-

Katt Williams 54:14 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 54:14 ... which is very rare, um, i- in what it does. E- What gold can do is you can take a little piece of gold, like this big, and coat this entire table. It's real weird.

Katt Williams 54:23 Right.

Joe Rogan 54:24 It's a very... And it... You could turn into a fine dust, and they suspended this fine dust in their atmosphere to protect them from a, a degrading atmosphere, 'cause they were getting global warming or whatever.

Katt Williams 54:35 Everybody that was in-

Joe Rogan 54:37 He wrote about this in the '70s.

Katt Williams 54:38 Ev- It doesn't matter, because everybody in Egypt knew it. Like, this is where the alchemy...I'm... (sighs)

Joe Rogan 54:50 Yeah. That's where it all originated.

Katt Williams 54:51 Right. Like-

Joe Rogan 54:52 Well, we don't even know what they knew.

Katt Williams 54:54 None of those people are saying, "Hey, I came up with this shit." They're saying-

Joe Rogan 54:58 Right. "Somebody gave it to us."

Katt Williams 54:59 "Somebody who came from this place here came-"

Joe Rogan 55:03 Yeah.

Katt Williams 55:03 "... and told us that this is how this goes and this is what this is worth."

Joe Rogan 55:08 Yeah.

Katt Williams 55:09 Because I'm saying, um, the people that were being abused in the mines going to get the diamonds, it wasn't, it wasn't like that for them. It was just them getting these rocks.

Joe Rogan 55:23 Right.

Katt Williams 55:23 And this crazy guy's gonna pay a day's wages for us to gather rocks. Let's gather 'em.

Joe Rogan 55:28 Right.

Katt Williams 55:29 You know? This is... But when you follow back, it's all about the information and, and at the top of it, nobody's trying to claim it. Like, nobody's saying...

Joe Rogan 55:42 Right. "I invented this."

Katt Williams 55:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:44 Yeah. That is wild. If, if we... Imagine if this... That's why we're getting most of our shit, back engineered stuff they leave for us. We have to figure it out, sort through it. The people that have alien technology, if they... The people that do have an alien craft that they work on, what a weird reality you must live in. The whole rest of the world's got guessing and you got this thing in front of you like, "Oh, this is real. We have one."

Katt Williams 56:13 That's, that's-

Joe Rogan 56:13 "I can show it to you."

Katt Williams 56:14 That's how everybody in Space Force will have to feel, right?

Joe Rogan 56:17 Right. They must. How many of 'em you think see shit?

Katt Williams 56:20 I'm saying how do you think Elon Musk really feels? Like...

Joe Rogan 56:24 I don't think he's gonna tell you.

Katt Williams 56:25 No, I'm saying, in his head, can he still have a superhero or is he one of them?

Joe Rogan 56:32 Ooh.

Katt Williams 56:32 You know he's one of them. Like...

Joe Rogan 56:35 If you're the richest dude in the world and you're also a super genius, how the fuck do you stop yourself from thinking you're a superhero? That's the big question.

Katt Williams 56:42 No. It's not like that.

Joe Rogan 56:44 No?

Katt Williams 56:44 No. It doesn't have s- superhero side effects to it.

Joe Rogan 56:48 I mean, you would probably think that your-

Katt Williams 56:49 Like e- the more you know, the more you know how little you know.

Joe Rogan 56:54 That's true, too.

Katt Williams 56:55 So, there is not a... You know what I mean? And nobody has ownership o- of information. That, that's, that's why, um, reading books moves civilization-

Joe Rogan 57:07 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 57:07 ... because, um... Like, when I, when I say, like, you know, I read 3,000 books-

Joe Rogan 57:14 (laughs)

Katt Williams 57:14 ... people are like, "Yeah, right." But, you know, every- everything in life is about the environment i- it was grown in, the Petri dish, right? So, if I told you that from the time I was eight to the time I was 12, um, I never celebrated any birthdays, I never went to a birthday party, I never had a Thanksgiving, a Christmas, I never trick-or-treated, I wasn't allowed to watch movies and I wasn't allowed to watch TV. Um, all I could do was read. If I told you that, then you will understand-

Joe Rogan 57:49 Wow.

Katt Williams 57:49 ... that for eight hours a day, I got eight hours and I can read and I love to read. And so, I'm reading books that are 250, 200 pages and it takes me about a hour to read one. So yeah-

Joe Rogan 58:07 It takes you an hour to read-

Katt Williams 58:07 ... I'm, I'm reading-

Joe Rogan 58:08 ... 150 pages?

Katt Williams 58:09 ... eight a day. Yeah. Like, all I'm doing is reading 'cause that's what... So, I'm, I'm checking out 20 books. The limit at the library is 20 books at one time, so I'm going Monday, Wednesday, and Friday just because this is my thing. Like...

Joe Rogan 58:28 So, you're getting 60 books a week?

Katt Williams 58:29 Ab- minimum because-

Joe Rogan 58:32 Really?

Katt Williams 58:32 Yeah, yeah. Because I'm reading more than that because I still have religious books that I have to read. So under-

Joe Rogan 58:38 How would you...

Katt Williams 58:38 ... un- understand this is pre-internet first.

Joe Rogan 58:41 Right.

Katt Williams 58:41 So, understand that in reading one thing that I'm reading, right?

Joe Rogan 58:46 Right.

Katt Williams 58:47 (clears throat) This one thing that I'm reading is also req- requiring me to have this appendix book that is the source book that it's telling me it's getting these things from. And so I've got four books open at a time just for this one book. Like, um...

Joe Rogan 59:12 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 59:18 But yeah. I'm... So, first, I, I guess between 8 and 12, I'm only... I'm, I'm a l- I can read classics and non-fiction, so I'm saying no novels or anything like that. I'm just reading the... Like, Time Life has like 1800 of these individual books (laughs) , um, on all subjects of the world. And, um...

Joe Rogan 59:48 So, you just spent most of your time reading?

Katt Williams 59:51 Not most. All of it.

Joe Rogan 59:52 All of your time reading? And then when did it become-

Katt Williams 59:55 That was my thing because, um, like, like, I was able to be in each of these stories. You follow what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 Right.

Katt Williams 1:00:09 And, and, um, I was getting so much information. Like half of those I probably had to write a one-page report on after, you know. But, um, yeah. That was my whole thing. And I... The numbers aren't even really accurate 'cause I read more than that because, like, sometimes-

Joe Rogan 1:00:31 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:00:31 (laughs) ... sometimes I would read something and I wouldn't get it. Like-

Joe Rogan 1:00:35 Oh.

Katt Williams 1:00:35 Like, there was this classic book called Little Women that I probably read it four times 'cause I just didn't... I didn't understand it and I knew it was a classic, but...

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 I never read it. What's it about?

Katt Williams 1:00:51 ... it's about-

Joe Rogan 1:00:51 Have you read it, Jimmy?

Katt Williams 1:00:52 ... some little women.

Narrator 1:00:53 As a kid, I just, I just watched an episode of Curb where they were talking about it. That's-

Joe Rogan 1:00:57 What does this story go?

Katt Williams 1:00:59 Well, uh, well, I d- here's the thing.

Narrator 1:01:00 Sisters? I don't know. (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:01:01 Yeah, right, right. Like, four sisters think that.

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 Okay.

Katt Williams 1:01:04 Okay? But they, they had money and, uh, an incredible circumstance. But the thing was, I didn't have any sisters, so I didn't have anything to pull from, and I didn't have women in my life like that. So, um, yeah, a lot of things I would have to read multiple times for me to get-

Joe Rogan 1:01:28 Right, to try to think how they thought.

Katt Williams 1:01:30 Right. Well, yeah, like even, like, um, The Three Musketeers, like, I probably read it three times because I... (sighs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:38 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:01:39 You know, it was so... I read it, like, the first time to read it, but then the next time, I had to read it again because these characters were really distinct characters.

Joe Rogan 1:01:49 Right.

Katt Williams 1:01:49 And I couldn't figure out, "Wait a minute, did this happen really in history or was somebody just this good at telling this story of the..." You know?

Joe Rogan 1:02:01 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:02:01 But, um, but it's things like that that leads you to the Knights Templar story, which leads you to, you know, seeing how things through history have remained. You know what I mean? Like, um, all of that you get from the books.

Joe Rogan 1:02:22 Well, history, to me, has always been the most fascinating thing because you can't quite imagine it. You're trying to imagine it, you're piecing it together-

Katt Williams 1:02:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:31 ... listening to these stories and you just sit back and go, "What the fuck was that like?"

Katt Williams 1:02:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:02:35 And it wasn't even that long ago.

Katt Williams 1:02:36 Which is what we create every day.

Joe Rogan 1:02:38 Yeah, yeah.

Katt Williams 1:02:40 Right?

Joe Rogan 1:02:40 Yeah. We're, we're creating the future's version of what the fuck was that like. This-

Katt Williams 1:02:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:45 ... this place right here freaks me out the most 'cause this, uh, this area, specifically this area of Texas, the Hill Country, was just all Native Americans forever. There's thousands of arrowheads, man. Look at this.

Katt Williams 1:02:58 Here's the, here's the thing-

Joe Rogan 1:02:58 My friend found this on his ranch.

Katt Williams 1:03:00 None, none of those people, when we say "those people," n- none of them picked a bad place, ever.

Joe Rogan 1:03:09 No.

Katt Williams 1:03:09 That's when you understand that there's a grid.

Joe Rogan 1:03:12 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:03:12 Because nobody's holy people picked bad spots.

Joe Rogan 1:03:18 No.

Katt Williams 1:03:18 Everybody understood certain things about the area and long before they had X-ray machines and-

Joe Rogan 1:03:26 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:03:27 If you just went by that in the whole world, you would start to understand, like, the true power of the Vatican and the fact that certain things are based on real shit, like the Arc of the Covenant ain't some spooky little story. It's like-

Joe Rogan 1:03:46 What do you think it is? You think it's like a nuclear generator or something like that? What do you think it is?

Katt Williams 1:03:52 Whatever the nucleus is that would nuclearly power something-

Joe Rogan 1:03:56 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:03:56 ... that would have in- initially been in the pyramids, would also have been in the Arc of the Covenant-

Joe Rogan 1:04:02 Right.

Katt Williams 1:04:02 ... which would be the same thing.

Joe Rogan 1:04:04 Right.

Katt Williams 1:04:04 Something that you can't fuck with-

Joe Rogan 1:04:06 Right.

Katt Williams 1:04:06 ... and it's radioactive and it's very powerful-

Joe Rogan 1:04:09 That's why they got to put all those rocks around it.

Katt Williams 1:04:10 ... but it still has to be... Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 1:04:13 Can you imagine?

Katt Williams 1:04:13 That's why I'm saying nobody's telling any crazy stories, my man. Not globally.

Joe Rogan 1:04:19 No.

Katt Williams 1:04:19 No. Every- everything was about something.

Joe Rogan 1:04:22 Well, it gets less crazy every year. It gets less crazy every year.

Katt Williams 1:04:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:26 20 years ago, talking about any of this stuff was straight-up nonsense.

Katt Williams 1:04:30 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:04:30 But now, people are like, "Hold on, that's probably what disclosure actually looks like."

Katt Williams 1:04:35 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:04:36 It looks like a slow, trickle integration into the zeitgeist to the point where it's just normal.

Katt Williams 1:04:42 Because a lot of times they're right.

Joe Rogan 1:04:44 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:04:44 A lot of times it turns out that they were right, that, no, we couldn't have told people this because, yeah, they would've went... and this would've happened and that would've happened, and you can start to see that, like...

Joe Rogan 1:04:55 Yeah. That's why when, when you think about what, what people have always believed, that's why angels and devils freak me out. Because no one wants to believe that there's a Satan, that there's a devil.

Katt Williams 1:05:15 You believe in-

Joe Rogan 1:05:16 There's-

Katt Williams 1:05:16 ... astronauts, though, right?

Joe Rogan 1:05:17 (laughs ) Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:05:18 Okay. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:21 (laughs) But people have always said there is.

Katt Williams 1:05:23 You mean a bad and a good?

Joe Rogan 1:05:24 Yeah, not just a bad and a good, but an actual evil, malevolent force.

Katt Williams 1:05:28 No, just start with bad and good.

Joe Rogan 1:05:29 Okay, yes, bad and good, yeah.

Katt Williams 1:05:30 Okay, so if we start at bad and good, then we understand what must be at the extremes of that.

Joe Rogan 1:05:36 Right.

Katt Williams 1:05:37 Nobody's telling a different story.

Joe Rogan 1:05:39 And then there's a concept of actual entities.

Katt Williams 1:05:42 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:05:43 Actual demonic entities that do exist.

Katt Williams 1:05:47 Well, I'm saying your DNA is either fused or it's not. If it is, it requires a fuser.

Joe Rogan 1:05:55 Mm.

Katt Williams 1:05:57 That's all.

Joe Rogan 1:05:58 A fuser? Right. What do you mean by that?

Katt Williams 1:06:05 I'm, I'm saying, if they tell you that certain parts of your DNA are fused, that requires a fuser. Did I say that right?

Joe Rogan 1:06:19 I'm not sure. I see what you're saying. The, the structure to us and everything, all of it, does seem remarkable.

Katt Williams 1:06:32 In a no-mistakes type of way.

Joe Rogan 1:06:34 Yeah, in a synchronistic sort of a way.

Katt Williams 1:06:36 Which flies in the face of the accidental big bang, nothing from nothing way of thinking-

Joe Rogan 1:06:45 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:06:45 ... and it always has been.

Joe Rogan 1:06:47 Well, that's what I think, like, in the beginning there was light, when they talk about that. If you were gonna describe the beginning of the universe, even, even if you're describing the big bang, which there's a lot of speculation that that wasn't necessarily the beginning, that there might be a continuous cycle of these events happening over and over again, but if you were talking about a creation story-... you would say, "In the beginning, there was light," 'cause there was. There was a fucking enormous amount of light. It created the entire universe.

Katt Williams 1:07:18 Literally.

Joe Rogan 1:07:18 Literally.

Katt Williams 1:07:19 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:07:20 I think-

Katt Williams 1:07:20 Which is all it says. And, and, and, here's the, like... Whatever they say that Hell or Hades is in any of these religions worldwide, it is the perfect description for what a black hole is in real life.

Joe Rogan 1:07:37 (exhales) It is. You fall through forever.

Katt Williams 1:07:42 A bottomless pit.

Joe Rogan 1:07:43 Yeah. Where time doesn't exist.

Katt Williams 1:07:47 Where time does not exist, where you don't die, but you don't exit.

Joe Rogan 1:07:52 (exhales)

Katt Williams 1:07:52 Where the information, like-

Joe Rogan 1:07:54 And it eats stars. (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:07:57 Right. But, but how... But, it eats stars and galax-

Joe Rogan 1:08:03 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:08:03 ... all that, right? But, but we can have multiple of them, and-

Joe Rogan 1:08:10 All over the place.

Katt Williams 1:08:10 ... and everything will still be okay. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:08:12 They're the center- the center of every galaxy.

Katt Williams 1:08:14 That's the flex.

Joe Rogan 1:08:15 Yeah. Yeah, we're fine with them.

Katt Williams 1:08:17 That's the flex. Right.

Joe Rogan 1:08:17 It's like if you live in Africa, you gotta deal with lions.

Katt Williams 1:08:19 What's this thing? "Oh, it kills everything."

Joe Rogan 1:08:21 Right.

Katt Williams 1:08:21 Everything what? Everything it touches.

Joe Rogan 1:08:23 Everything, everything. It's gonna get us eventually, but not now.

Katt Williams 1:08:26 What, d- you mean you have two of 'em?

Joe Rogan 1:08:28 (laughs) They find them floating around.

Katt Williams 1:08:32 They find them? Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:08:33 They find them floating around.

Katt Williams 1:08:34 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:08:34 I mean, they notice them.

Katt Williams 1:08:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:36 They notice that they're out there floating around.

Katt Williams 1:08:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:38 They found one that's so fucking big. So they... We did this thing where, where we played a video of how small the Earth is in comparison to the sun, how small the sun is in comparison to the giant stars, and how star- small, giant stars are into the most, the most massive super massive black hole that they know currently. It's bananas what's out there.

Katt Williams 1:08:58 Our perfect habitat is so perfect that anyone universally with sense would say, "Woo! Location, location, location."

Joe Rogan 1:09:09 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:09:10 You know?

Joe Rogan 1:09:11 Like the greatest real estate agent ever.

Katt Williams 1:09:12 Yeah. If the moon or the sun were further back, we'd-

Joe Rogan 1:09:15 We'd be fucked.

Katt Williams 1:09:16 Yeah. Or clo-

Joe Rogan 1:09:17 If Jupiter wasn't there-

Katt Williams 1:09:17 Or closer, or like, like-

Joe Rogan 1:09:19 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:09:20 The whole thing is, you know, someone later saying, "Do you think Beverly Hills was, uh... You think this was an area they built on purpose?"

Joe Rogan 1:09:36 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:09:36 Mm-hmm. Yeah, it was. Oh, don't let me.

Joe Rogan 1:09:41 Oh. Just imagine if the, the moon was slightly smaller. Just imagine.

Katt Williams 1:09:48 Look-

Joe Rogan 1:09:48 Imagine if the Earth was slightly further away from the sun.

Katt Williams 1:09:51 They know that... It's to the point where it, some of it might've been artificially done, and they're aware of that. They're, they're aware of, um, the truth.

Joe Rogan 1:10:07 So the artificial created solar system?

Katt Williams 1:10:07 Specifics of the moon.

Joe Rogan 1:10:09 Oh, the moon.

Katt Williams 1:10:10 Right, specifically.

Joe Rogan 1:10:10 I've heard that theory. That's a wild theory.

Katt Williams 1:10:13 Well, some of it's not theory. Like, I, I was, I was on that subject as a teenager, but as a grown person is when the, um, thing happened where they hit it with a missile and it rang like a bell.

Joe Rogan 1:10:35 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:10:35 Like, certain things are, um...

Joe Rogan 1:10:39 What was the explanation for that? 'Cause it did have some sort of a crazy, like... (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:10:44 The question is who will offer a explanation?

Joe Rogan 1:10:47 Right.

Katt Williams 1:10:47 Because it wasn't like the... They, they didn't just do it once. Like all-

Joe Rogan 1:10:53 Imagine-

Katt Williams 1:10:53 All accounts say it rang like a bell for hours and hours and hours.

Joe Rogan 1:10:59 Imagine if that's a feature for a stable planet, that they put there.

Katt Williams 1:11:04 Well, that's how Xbox works.

Joe Rogan 1:11:07 Really?

Katt Williams 1:11:07 You know? Um, or PlayStation. I, I'm an Xbox guy, but I- I'm saying, you know, you have your gaming system, and it just requires that and your Wi-Fi nearby, and bam, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:11:22 Right.

Katt Williams 1:11:23 Make things happen. And so many of our things globally, we come by understanding that, the magnetics and dynamics and things that really work.

Joe Rogan 1:11:39 There's a lot of people that think that whatever we're seeing isn't just from another planet, but from another dimension, that they're dimensional travelers, that they have access to places that we don't have access to, 'cause we're too primitive. We, we can't wrap our head around it. As a civilization-

Katt Williams 1:11:58 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 1:11:58 ... we haven't reached the ability to transcend, but that they can, and that they're here all the time.

Katt Williams 1:12:07 Well, the way we look at it, you know, we're the greatest spot in the universe, but the travelers don't lead us to believe that.

Joe Rogan 1:12:19 Well, there's always competition. There's always going to be a greater civilization than the one previous. There's always gonna be more.

Katt Williams 1:12:25 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 1:12:25 There's always gonna be more. If, if people are going to innovate to the point where they're gonna make spacecrafts, that means these people are competing with each other. These things, whatever they are, they're still... They, they must be in some sort of competition. There's must be something that motivates them. And so-

Katt Williams 1:12:40 Right. But at, at that level, competition is healthy, and there are no unhealthy components.

Joe Rogan 1:12:47 Hopefully.

Katt Williams 1:12:48 So... Well, no, I'm-

Joe Rogan 1:12:48 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:12:49 Na- not hopefully, definitely. Once, once we're all, um, building spa- personal space, um, contraptions for ourselves, we're going to push one another. It's, it's not just, um... We're gonna all want the best one.

Joe Rogan 1:13:08 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:13:08 And, um, we're going to insist that that be the case, just like we do with cars.

Joe Rogan 1:13:13 When I said hopefully, what I mean is that, like, hopefully they will be, like, healthy, friendly competition. That's what motivates them.... what's not hopeful is that they could be robotic, emotionless things that have transcended biological needs, and that they just have a function. That function is seeding intelligent life in the universe and establishing pla- just like you would be a farmer and you would go out and leave hay for the animals.

Katt Williams 1:13:42 Needs are primitive.

Joe Rogan 1:13:44 Yeah. They are primitive, but it, we're always moving into some more and more complex direction technologically. It seems like that's never gonna stop.

Katt Williams 1:13:54 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:13:54 And the only thing that makes sense to me is that we're, we're doing something because that's like what we're literally designed to do. It's, we have all these things that sort of motivate people and greed and-

Katt Williams 1:14:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:14:06 ... lust and curiosity.

Katt Williams 1:14:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:14:08 But what we're doing is we're always making better things.

Katt Williams 1:14:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:14:11 Constantly making better things-

Katt Williams 1:14:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:14:12 ... which would lead, ultimately, to the creation of a higher life form, uh, some, some more intelligent, emotionless being. And that's the scary thought, is that all this life out there is life that was created by biological creatures who had these desires and needs that ultimately led to them making a better version of them. And then that is like the butterfly that comes out of the cocoon.

Katt Williams 1:14:38 As soon as we put people in space, we became aliens that day, right?

Joe Rogan 1:14:43 Right. Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:14:45 A lot of things our perspective. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:14:47 That's true. I mean, you could say you're a camper, but you really only go in a tent in your yard. You're still kinda camping.

Katt Williams 1:14:53 Well, I'm-

Joe Rogan 1:14:54 You know, the, but that's what we're doing as far as space travel.

Katt Williams 1:14:56 ... I'm saying our, our, our guy has put a date on the, uh, Mars colonization-

Joe Rogan 1:15:00 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:15:00 ... though, right?

Joe Rogan 1:15:01 (smacks lips) Yeah, but he's also put a date on the Roadster, when that Tesla Roadster's coming out. That motherfucker's never gonna see the light of day. (laughs) When is, when is that car coming out?

Katt Williams 1:15:09 No, because at-

Narrator 1:15:10 He said something about it the other day.

Joe Rogan 1:15:11 That car is supposed to be out for years.

Narrator 1:15:13 Yeah, it was supposed to be out two or three years ago, I think.

Katt Williams 1:15:15 That's-

Joe Rogan 1:15:15 Goddamn it.

Katt Williams 1:15:15 ... that's part of being a billionaire.

Joe Rogan 1:15:18 Sure.

Katt Williams 1:15:18 Is it's not worth putting out something that's not right. It doesn't matter how bad it's wanted.

Joe Rogan 1:15:25 Well, he actually explained that. He said it was man- and manufacturing is insanely difficult. And the way he explained it, it's, uh, you know, you don't consider it 'cause of, you know, people just manufacture things, think it's normal. But he was like, "The process of manufacturing, especially like a car, an electric car, insanely difficult."

Katt Williams 1:15:41 H- he had a harder time doing that Cybertruck than he did (laughs) -

Joe Rogan 1:15:48 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:15:48 ... space stuff.

Joe Rogan 1:15:49 Cybertruck's hard. Well, it's all folded steel. It's this fucking massive, 7,000 plus pound folded steel truck that goes zero to 60 in three seconds, and it looks like it's from the future. It looks like if you were gonna watch a movie-

Katt Williams 1:16:04 It's the hottest thing on Mars.

Joe Rogan 1:16:06 It's crazy. (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:16:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:16:07 Yeah. That's what, that's what it is.

Katt Williams 1:16:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:16:09 Yeah. It looks like the most futuristic car ever.

Katt Williams 1:16:13 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:16:15 Yeah. But-

Katt Williams 1:16:17 As kids, that's what we drew.

Joe Rogan 1:16:18 ... I don't know when we're going to Mars, and I don't know who the fuck's gonna do that. That's a six-month journey, and you're just hoping-

Katt Williams 1:16:26 So what? (exhales) So what?

Joe Rogan 1:16:29 Several billionaires were talked into getting into a capsule with limited air.

Katt Williams 1:16:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:16:35 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:16:37 To go a long way down.

Joe Rogan 1:16:39 Bro-

Katt Williams 1:16:40 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 1:16:40 ... that's a dark way to die. Just knowing that you chose to do it-

Katt Williams 1:16:45 Well, just, just know even if you're a racist hearing this, all death is dark, so.

Joe Rogan 1:16:50 What I mean is the last moments must be horrific. You're hearing creaking-

Katt Williams 1:16:56 No more, no, no more horrific than anyone else's.

Joe Rogan 1:16:59 I know, but there's something about the choice of being, you know, thousands of feet under the water-

Katt Williams 1:17:05 No, it's being a billionaire.

Joe Rogan 1:17:06 ... and knowing it's crushing. This is... (fake crying)

Katt Williams 1:17:09 Your soul dies, lump.

Joe Rogan 1:17:11 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:17:14 (laughs) I could have done anything.

Joe Rogan 1:17:19 (screams)

Katt Williams 1:17:20 This is what I chose.

Joe Rogan 1:17:22 That's hilarious.

Katt Williams 1:17:23 Yeah, that death. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:17:24 That guy could be fishing in Maui right now. (laughs) With a nice cold beer, hanging out with his friends, listening to some music. (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:17:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:17:40 Instead, he hears... (cracking noise)

Katt Williams 1:17:42 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:17:45 He hears that carbon fiber starting to crack. Goddamn.

Katt Williams 1:17:50 It's already done at that point.

Joe Rogan 1:17:52 Yep, it's done.

Katt Williams 1:17:52 None of that's happening.

Joe Rogan 1:17:54 They knew those people were dead a long time ago, which is interesting because I didn't know how sophisticated the underwater listening devices are, but they have these super sophisticated underwater listening devices everywhere to make sure that Russia's not sneaking up on us, 'cause Russia will sneak up on a motherfucker.

Katt Williams 1:18:13 Sir, sir.

Joe Rogan 1:18:13 Russia's, Russia's snuck up on people before.

Katt Williams 1:18:14 Sir, none of that is for Russia.

Joe Rogan 1:18:20 You think it's for aliens?

Katt Williams 1:18:21 None of that is for Russia. Um, (clears throat) -

Joe Rogan 1:18:24 You think that's, you think that's for aliens?

Katt Williams 1:18:26 Um-

Joe Rogan 1:18:26 That would be the wildest shit of all time.

Katt Williams 1:18:28 What, what, what, what-

Joe Rogan 1:18:28 They have underwater listening devices-

Katt Williams 1:18:29 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:18:29 ... 'cause they knew the aliens were under there.

Katt Williams 1:18:31 Okay. Let's see if this is weed talk or not.

Joe Rogan 1:18:33 Let's go.

Katt Williams 1:18:34 So which one do we know more about? Do we know more about space or do we know more about the oceans?

Joe Rogan 1:18:41 We know more about space.

Katt Williams 1:18:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:18:43 Yeah, quite a bit more.

Katt Williams 1:18:45 Okay, so yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:18:46 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:18:46 And part of that is because...

Joe Rogan 1:18:51 The ocean's very difficult-

Katt Williams 1:18:52 A- a-

Joe Rogan 1:18:52 ... to penetrate.

Katt Williams 1:18:52 A- a- at some point, it's government, um ...

Joe Rogan 1:18:59 They're hiding things from us. I would hide things from people. I would definitely make it illegal for you to have a submarine. You could have a yacht. Don't, don't get crazy. You can't go underwater. I gotta know where the fuck you are. If I need to collect taxes.

Katt Williams 1:19:12 Well, I'm, I'm-

Joe Rogan 1:19:12 If you're floating around, I could pull up.

Katt Williams 1:19:14 It was a conspiracy theory at one point that you, you know the government got, uh, bases inside the mountains.

Joe Rogan 1:19:23 Right.

Katt Williams 1:19:23 Uh.

Joe Rogan 1:19:26 Well, until they had to expand the boundary behind, uh, Area 51 and make Area 51 larger. They never even admitted it existed. It wasn't until the Obama administration that they actually came out and said, "Area 51's a real thing. We need more land." (laughs) Do you ever see the video of Bob Lazar? The guy who used to work there? Have you ever seen that guy? That's a wild one.

Katt Williams 1:19:47 I was following old Bob Lazar. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:19:52 What do you think about that? Do you think he's telling the truth?

Katt Williams 1:19:56 Uh, here's the thing, Joe. Just, just an opinion, but what I find fascinating is the lack of imagination in any of these stories where imagination could apply. Like...

Joe Rogan 1:20:21 Like if someone was bullshitting-

Katt Williams 1:20:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:20:22 ... you'd see evidence of it.

Katt Williams 1:20:24 (laughs) Like-

Joe Rogan 1:20:24 Right? 'Cause that's the thing.

Katt Williams 1:20:25 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 1:20:25 If people bullshit, they kind of bullshit about everything.

Katt Williams 1:20:29 (laughs) Right, like-

Joe Rogan 1:20:29 'Cause they think they're smart enough to trick you. No one's smart enough to come up with one story only their whole life. Their whole life, they're straight down the middle, square, tell the truth all the time. But one time, they decide to have a whopper of a lie, and just fabricate this thing and structure it.

Katt Williams 1:20:47 No. You're seeing somebody tell you a story that is the only explanation for certain things that are happening.

Joe Rogan 1:20:58 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:20:59 Like-

Joe Rogan 1:20:59 Especially, he tells you a story, and then you have independent people who also used to work for the government now becoming whistleblowers and saying there's a crashed retrieval program. Crashed UFO retrieval program.

Katt Williams 1:21:13 It goes back to what I'm saying, Joe. These are the... This is how you say this without getting canceled. Look, you do think they're doing something, don't you?

Joe Rogan 1:21:22 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:21:23 They're doing something. They wouldn't tell us everything they're doing.

Joe Rogan 1:21:25 Because we, we wanna believe, like-

Katt Williams 1:21:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:21:27 ... nobody's doing nothing? Like, no, no, we're doing stuff, like... They're doing something.

Katt Williams 1:21:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:21:34 They're just not telling us.

Katt Williams 1:21:36 But that, that's part of it, though, right?

Joe Rogan 1:21:38 You know what the people involved in the retrieval called the vehicles? They call them donations.

Katt Williams 1:21:46 Right. Well, because, um...

Joe Rogan 1:21:49 That's what they think they are. They think that the limited times these crafts have shown themselves.

Katt Williams 1:21:55 You didn't... You as the driver or the occupant didn't mean for that to be your destination. And, um, you don't take anything. Um, you only give. Therefore, that's why it's known as a donation.

Joe Rogan 1:22:16 Mm.

Katt Williams 1:22:16 Because it's like, um... It's what you would say if one of those meteors that we were talking about, if one just the size of a refrigerator, landed in your backyard. Like... A billion dollars can land in your backyard easy-peasy.

Joe Rogan 1:22:37 Or obliterate an entire city-

Katt Williams 1:22:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:22:41 ... and send everybody back to the Stone Age. That's the wildest one.

Katt Williams 1:22:45 Right, but, the... But it's not that wild if you look at the moon.

Joe Rogan 1:22:50 Right.

Katt Williams 1:22:50 The moon shows you the evidence that that's a thing.

Joe Rogan 1:22:54 Pelts it.

Katt Williams 1:22:54 Right. Like-

Joe Rogan 1:22:55 If we could just look at it, it's just filled with holes. (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:22:57 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:22:58 Big fucking craters all over that you could see with the naked eye.

Katt Williams 1:23:02 Well, I'm saying most of the people that are in America and drive in urban settings know what potholes are. And so, you know, it's the same thing.

Joe Rogan 1:23:15 Yeah. This is a weird time where people are just starting to pay attention to so many of these subjects. And so many of these th-... Like, are we alone? Have there been advanced civilizations before? How did we become us?

Katt Williams 1:23:31 It's be- It's been a conversation at all points in, in time.

Joe Rogan 1:23:35 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:23:35 Like-

Joe Rogan 1:23:35 But more people are having it now without fear of being labeled an idiot.

Katt Williams 1:23:40 Well, it's because information is now, um, a free commodity. Whereas in different points in history, it wasn't like that.

Joe Rogan 1:23:51 Right.

Katt Williams 1:23:51 Like, um, uh, you-

Joe Rogan 1:23:53 It was protected.

Katt Williams 1:23:54 You didn't make enough money to get access to this information. And no- no matter where you're looking, information is the driving force of almost every war and conflict. This, it, um-

Joe Rogan 1:24:08 Oh, yeah.

Katt Williams 1:24:09 It, it was about the place that you conquered. N- not only did you conquer them, but you got a chance to know what they knew, and that, you found was more important than anything else.

Joe Rogan 1:24:22 Mm.

Katt Williams 1:24:22 And that's, um...

Joe Rogan 1:24:25 Well, think about the people that lived just before they translated the Bible from Latin. How many people couldn't read it?

Katt Williams 1:24:33 Well, that was part of the experience that you were getting from church, was the fact that peop-... that it was being read to you.

Joe Rogan 1:24:43 Right.

Katt Williams 1:24:43 You see what I'm saying? It... N- not what we have currently where you have the book and they have the book. But, you know, this person is literally, um, reciting the word of God to you.

Joe Rogan 1:24:59 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:25:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:25:01 And he becomes the holder of all that information, and the only one.

Katt Williams 1:25:04 All holders of all information-

Joe Rogan 1:25:07 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:25:07 ... are that.

Joe Rogan 1:25:08 Yep. It's like a human pattern-

Katt Williams 1:25:10 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:25:11 ... that people follow even if they just run an internet company. Even if they run a social media company-

Katt Williams 1:25:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:25:15 ... they follow that same pattern.

Katt Williams 1:25:17 Well, well, because-

Joe Rogan 1:25:20 Control.

Katt Williams 1:25:20 ... everything in the universe, everything on this planet, everything that we could look at in the wildlife or in the plant life or e- every- everything is a formula. Everything is that way.

Joe Rogan 1:25:32 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:25:32 And that's one of the, um...You know, the science and math go together with, um, the occult and alchemy, and, um, all of these things are based on things, like, like even the Smurfs story, right?

Joe Rogan 1:25:55 The Smurfs are based on something?

Katt Williams 1:25:58 Well, um, religious people say, "Oh, you can't watch the Smurfs, 'cause it's bad, 'cause they have witchcraft and stuff in there." But the whole thing is, it's based on this, um, the homunculus, the idea that you can create a human life form without a mother or a father. So-

Joe Rogan 1:26:26 Really? That's what the Smurfs are based on?

Katt Williams 1:26:32 So-

Joe Rogan 1:26:33 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:26:33 ... who, so who, what, what two Smurfs do you think got together-

Joe Rogan 1:26:37 I don't know much about Smurf world.

Katt Williams 1:26:38 ... and had Smurfette? She was the only female of the Smurfs, so...

Joe Rogan 1:26:44 It's a good question.

Katt Williams 1:26:45 Well, it's not a question in the Smurfs. They tell you. They tell you that, um, Gargamel made Smurfette. But, you know, in somebody's history, I don't wanna say what race of people or group of people it is, but in somebody's history, you know, there was, um, this homunculus, uh, thing, and-

Joe Rogan 1:27:11 Like a genetically engineered human?

Katt Williams 1:27:14 Life form, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:27:15 Life form?

Katt Williams 1:27:15 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:27:16 Creature?

Katt Williams 1:27:17 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:27:17 Whoa.

Katt Williams 1:27:18 And so, you know, it's spoken of his- in history, um, very sparingly. But, um, you know, a lot of things in per- in, in the world are, are about perception, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:27:33 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:27:33 So, we don't believe that there's clones. We don't believe that, because we don't feel like we have the technology. But the truth is, if you go body part to body part, you'll go, "Uh, what if I lost two legs?" "Well, we can give you two legs." "Well, what about two arms?" "I can give you two arms." "Okay, well, what about the heart?" "Yeah, no problem." "What about the, what about the..." Like, we're already...

Joe Rogan 1:27:55 Yeah. All you'd have to do is make a clone braindead. Figure out how to engineer a braindead clone that'll grow organs for you.

Katt Williams 1:28:03 L-

Joe Rogan 1:28:03 And then they'll make cloning legal, 'cause then you'll never have to worry. "Hey, cat, you need a new heart? Guess what."

Katt Williams 1:28:09 Th- this, sir, this is the same, this is the same pathway that everybody is on in all of these departments. Like, this is, this is what you, like... People spend their life trying to find a cure for cancer. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 1:28:31 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:28:32 And, and working as hard as they can every single day. You know what I mean? Unsuccessfully. We, those are the type of people that help make the world go round, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:28:52 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 1:28:54 Yeah, 'cause it's all about information, and we, and we be so close most of the time.

Joe Rogan 1:29:03 Mm-hmm. Y-

Katt Williams 1:29:04 But that's how you, you can see when we've had influence from something else.

Joe Rogan 1:29:11 Well, I think it's very possible that we have. It's just so frustrating when you wanna know. You know, it's one of those things where life would change forever if you had undeniable contact with something. It, it would just change forever. Your perception of light, your, y- just the drive through the In-N-Out drive-through would be different. Everything would be different.

Katt Williams 1:29:33 Right, but you-

Joe Rogan 1:29:34 Taking a shit would be different. There's aliens out there. They-

Katt Williams 1:29:36 You could say that about smelling salts, or-

Joe Rogan 1:29:39 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:29:40 ... or mushrooms, or you can say that about lots of things. Um-

Joe Rogan 1:29:46 Yeah, but about that specifically. That, if that, if we knew that that was real, 'cause I think it's probably true, but I still will hold open the path, the, the possibility that it's all bullshit.

Katt Williams 1:30:00 Here's the whole thing. No one who has ever seen more space or the universe than you and I has ever seen anything that was bullshit.

Joe Rogan 1:30:12 What do you mean?

Katt Williams 1:30:14 In the universe.

Joe Rogan 1:30:16 Uh, what I mean is, like, fake UFO footage. There's a lot of fake footage. I would wanna see, if you could see something yourself, and I have good friends that have, I have good friends that have had experiences-

Katt Williams 1:30:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:30:29 ... that they say, "There is no fucking way that that is us, that this is something else."

Katt Williams 1:30:37 Right. Just understand that part of the job in any of these circumstances is to kick up kerfuffle, like-

Joe Rogan 1:30:49 Right.

Katt Williams 1:30:49 ... that's part of it. Like, if you live in Florida, you see how many times things go off into space, and you know that there's a pattern between that and government airplanes, and like-

Joe Rogan 1:31:05 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 1:31:06 ... like, our stories of cooperation have been nothing but cooperative, as they could only be. Like, we don't hold any leverage.

Joe Rogan 1:31:20 I think some of the shit that we're seeing is our stuff.

Katt Williams 1:31:24 Right. I'm saying, but nobody would have a way of... Like, as advanced as we are, we still gotta let that balloon fly over, right?

Joe Rogan 1:31:38 Yeah. (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:31:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:31:43 ... uh, uh, uh, uh, what the fuck is that? That's the most obvious shit ever. That's your neighbor peeking over the fence.

Katt Williams 1:31:50 No, it is not.

Joe Rogan 1:31:52 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:31:52 It is your neighbor's drone.

Joe Rogan 1:31:54 Yeah, your neighbor's drone.

Katt Williams 1:31:56 In your yard.

Joe Rogan 1:31:56 Hovering over your house, yeah.

Katt Williams 1:31:58 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:31:59 Ridiculous.

Katt Williams 1:31:59 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:32:00 (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:32:02 Filled with a pinata-

Joe Rogan 1:32:05 (snorts)

Katt Williams 1:32:05 ... of the next COVID.

Joe Rogan 1:32:07 Right. I mean, what are they doing? Flying robots.

Katt Williams 1:32:12 It's not like that. It's not like that. In the world of flying things, sometimes things go off course.

Joe Rogan 1:32:21 Mm-hmm.

Katt Williams 1:32:22 You see what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 1:32:23 You think that's all it was?

Katt Williams 1:32:25 Especially spy stuff.

Joe Rogan 1:32:26 Do you think that's all it was? It went off course, that it just magically happened to go near all the military bases? (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:32:31 Don't say magically. I'm, say wind.

Joe Rogan 1:32:34 (laughs) The wind got it?

Katt Williams 1:32:37 What I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 1:32:38 It, p- bro, they just flew those things over and they hope that Biden didn't notice. They said they flew over during Trump's administration too, but they didn't tell him, 'cause they didn't want him to shoot them down.

Katt Williams 1:32:47 Neither of those stories is true. That information was out there.

Narrator 1:32:50 There was one, like, two days ago, right?

Joe Rogan 1:32:51 Right. Another one, yeah.

Narrator 1:32:53 They said this was a hobbyist though, but-

Katt Williams 1:32:55 Oh.

Narrator 1:32:55 ... that's what they said. A hobbyist.

Katt Williams 1:32:57 Well, that, yeah, this doesn't count.

Narrator 1:33:00 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:33:00 This doesn't count. And the way that you know immediately is it says, "Over Utah." Like, that would be where, you know.

Joe Rogan 1:33:12 That's, like, White Sands, right? No, that's New Mexico, isn't it?

Narrator 1:33:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:33:16 Um, what's up, there's gotta be a military base in Utah though, right?

Katt Williams 1:33:19 Well, I'm saying in the-

Narrator 1:33:20 No, actually the image I showed was-

Katt Williams 1:33:21 ... in, in the map-wise.

Narrator 1:33:23 ... the first one, the Chinese surveillance balloon is what this says.

Joe Rogan 1:33:26 Oh, that's what this one is? This is the one from February 2023? Right. That's the one they shot down. Look at that. So it's just a balloon with, uh, solar power and some kinda camera. How weird.

Katt Williams 1:33:40 Not weird. Not weird.

Joe Rogan 1:33:43 Well, not weird if you just think about human patterns. We gotta see what the enemy's up to, let's fly over, take some pictures-

Katt Williams 1:33:50 And-

Joe Rogan 1:33:50 ... see what the fuck is going on with these people.

Katt Williams 1:33:53 I'm saying we can say whatever we want, but we're civilized and maybe they're not civilized. So if you aren't civilized, then maybe part of your job is airborne weaponry.

Joe Rogan 1:34:05 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:34:06 So you gotta test it out. You gotta see what it can do. Yeah, and yeah, uh, they're gonna go off course, huh, okay.

Joe Rogan 1:34:17 Well, that's not airborne weaponry, but we have a lot of it.

Katt Williams 1:34:20 Information is.

Joe Rogan 1:34:22 That's true. Information is weaponry.

Katt Williams 1:34:24 Information is.

Joe Rogan 1:34:25 Yeah.

Katt Williams 1:34:26 Just knowing what the conversations are over this wide swathe of, um, people is worth money. 'Cause at the end of all these information, um, driven society places is analytics, and that's what this is. Um, yeah, I probably said too much.

Joe Rogan 1:34:50 No, it's all right. We'll be fine. (laughs)

Katt Williams 1:34:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:34:55 I just wonder where it's all headed 'cause if, it seems like we're building towards an event. I think about it all the time. It seems like, um, it's not-

Katt Williams 1:35:03 It's time to get a bunker.

Joe Rogan 1:35:04 It seems like it might be a good time to get a bunker, or at least some, a supply of water.

Katt Williams 1:35:11 Well, here's the thing, if you follow what becomes accessible, that's how you can generally see