Joe Rogan Experience #2112 - Dan Soder

Dan Soder is a stand-up comic, actor, on-air personality, and host of the "Soder" podcast. Check out his new special "Dan Soder: On The Road" available now on YouTube. https://youtu.be/1Lik3hSyhrY?si=NvFRtRwbFAbJBivL www.dansoder.com

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0:00 – 0:33
Cold open: Katt Williams’ weed, roasting friends, and setting the tone
1. JRJoe Rogan
  (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
2. NANarrator
  The Joe Rogan Experience.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music)
4. NANarrator
  Let's go, Dan Soder.
5. DSDan Soder
  Yeah.
6. NANarrator
  Let's go, baby. What's happening?
7. DSDan Soder
  Yeah. I forgot how good of weed you have.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
9. NANarrator
  (laughs)
10. JRJoe Rogan
  This is Katt Williams' weed.
11. DSDan Soder
  Is det really?
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
13. DSDan Soder
  Oh, shit, I'm gonna start talking shit on everyone in the business.
14. NANarrator
  (laughs)
15. DSDan Soder
  And there ain't never been a day that Shane Gilles ain't never texted me, "You're gay."
16. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
17. DSDan Soder
  (laughs)
18. NANarrator
  (laughs)
19. DSDan Soder
  "Always calling me gay."
20. NANarrator
  (gasps)
21. DSDan Soder
  Um...
0:33 – 4:59
Why Katt Williams is a unique standup force (and too famous for clubs)
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, we had Katt Williams ride the racing simulator and I filmed it and put some of it up on Instagram, but he's like-
2. DSDan Soder
  That's amazing.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  ... "This is how he drives."
4. DSDan Soder
  (laughs)
5. JRJoe Rogan
  "This is a normal thing. He does this 'cause he does this in real life."
6. NANarrator
  (laughs)
7. DSDan Soder
  Yeah. I would love for Katt Williams to be the voice of my self-hate.
8. NANarrator
  (laughs)
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
10. DSDan Soder
  He's like, "You ain't never gonna be nothing, baby. You suck."
11. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
12. DSDan Soder
  And it's just like, "I know, Katt."
13. NANarrator
  Just to wake you up every day-
14. DSDan Soder
  Yeah.
15. NANarrator
  ... and get you to go to work.
16. DSDan Soder
  Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. His Dave... He's the new David Goggins.
17. NANarrator
  Yeah.
18. DSDan Soder
  (laughs) He's like-
19. NANarrator
  "Pain is good. Feel everything bad, pimpin'."
20. DSDan Soder
  "I'm out here golfing in $5,000 sneakers."
21. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
22. DSDan Soder
  Dude, he's... The books thing is still the funniest shit in the world.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Bro, he doubled down and, and then some.
24. DSDan Soder
  Respect on-
25. JRJoe Rogan
  He said-
26. DSDan Soder
  Doubling down on a crazy shit is fucking hilarious.
27. NANarrator
  (laughs)
28. JRJoe Rogan
  He was saying, "I went to the library and I got-"
29. DSDan Soder
  (laughs)
30. JRJoe Rogan
  "... 20 books at a time 'cause that's all they would let you get, and I would be there three times a week."
4:59 – 7:41
Howard Hughes paranoia and the dangers of billionaire isolation
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Bro, when you see the Howard Hughes type characters, you see those guys who just get completely isolated and they can't interact with people, that is terrifying.
2. DSDan Soder
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  But I see it. I get how it happens. I see how it could happen.
4. DSDan Soder
  Yeah, a lot of money.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
6. DSDan Soder
  And no, and then-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  It's a lot of money and like-
8. DSDan Soder
  ... you become defensive, like crazy defensive and paranoid.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh-huh.
10. DSDan Soder
  The paranoia is the thing that makes you just go like, "No, I'm just gonna grow my beard and my fingernails and not leave outside."
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, you stop.Y- you have to stop and think about the time that Howard Hughes lived in, okay? And how easy it was to kill somebody.
12. DSDan Soder
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  There was no fucking video cameras everywhere. There was no cell phone cameras. There was no DNA evidence, and everyone was corrupt.
14. DSDan Soder
  And people... Yeah, like, it wasn't a thing where after 12 hours you're like, "Let's get, let's get eyes on it." It'd be a couple of days.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, they'd wanna-
16. DSDan Soder
  And people would be like, "You just didn't show up for work."
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Bro, they... For sure they'd wanna kill ya.
18. DSDan Soder
  ... oh, yeah.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, you're the- the billionaire guy who's controlling the schools. (laughs)
20. DSDan Soder
  Oh, my God.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  What are you doing?
22. DSDan Soder
  You're making weird decisions about the drinking water-
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
24. DSDan Soder
  ... in the town.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  You're a Rockefeller.
26. DSDan Soder
  Yeah, you're just like-
27. JRJoe Rogan
  You're like, "What?" You gotta be- you bo- you better be concerned.
28. DSDan Soder
  Yeah, you better have people around you.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
30. DSDan Soder
  Well, that's where you gotta worry about, who are you insulating yourself with? 'Cause if you're-
7:41 – 13:33
From cocaine’s invention to the drug war: cartels, corruption, and unintended consequences
1. JRJoe Rogan
  When did they figure out cocaine? Who was the first to figure out cocaine?
2. DSDan Soder
  A brave person. A brave person that knew a little bit about science.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  They must've known.
4. DSDan Soder
  'Cause it ain't like weed where you can just pull it off-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
6. DSDan Soder
  ... and, and put f- fire to it. Cocaine and alcohol takes someone so dedicated to getting fucked up that they become good at science.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
8. DSDan Soder
  (laughs)
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Because I watched, uh-
10. DSDan Soder
  So like-
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Have you ever seen that show Trafficked?
12. DSDan Soder
  No.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  There's this woman who's, like, one of my personal heroes, uh, Mariana Van Zeller. She was, she was a, she's like a real on-the-ground journalist.
14. DSDan Soder
  Okay.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Like goes to dangerous places.
16. DSDan Soder
  Yeah, yeah, the kind that, the people that need to do ayahuasca to stop the PTSD.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  I- I don't know what PTs- she seems fine, which is crazy but-
18. DSDan Soder
  All those war correspondents are all like, you're like, "You need to probably go do something to erase everything you've seen."
19. JRJoe Rogan
  She was first on the show like 10 years ago because she exposed the fentanyl issue and the, uh, excuse me, the opioid issue in Florida, where they had those pill mills and they didn't have a database.
20. DSDan Soder
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  So, you could go to a, they call them pain management centers. You would go there. You would talk to the doctor on the left side. The doctors say, "Oh, you need pills." And you go to the right side, and they give you pills.
22. DSDan Soder
  They-
23. JRJoe Rogan
  And that's all they have is pills. And then people would go to multiple ones, stockpile, get a big bag of them, go to different doctors. You can go to many doctors.
24. DSDan Soder
  Yeah, j- oh yeah, they call that, uh, what do they call it, doctor shopping or, like, going around to, like... They had, there's a word for it where they go doctor to doctor.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, you can, you could've, you, back then, you could do it 'cause they didn't have a database.
26. DSDan Soder
  Oh, all that shit.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Which everybody thought was insane. This is a controlled substance, a highly addictive heroin that you take in pill form, and you don't, you don't have a database?
28. DSDan Soder
  They're selling it like gum. (laughs) Yeah, they're just like, "I don't know, did you come by today?" And you go like, "No." And they're like-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  S- we can't tell.
30. DSDan Soder
  ... "We can't tell."
13:33 – 16:31
Cocaine-era movies, Showgirls, and how adolescence changed in the internet age
1. JRJoe Rogan
  My number one speculation is Showgirls.
2. DSDan Soder
  Yeah, Showgirls was written with a half-erect penis.
3. NANarrator
  (laughs)
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5. DSDan Soder
  That was (laughs) ... That movie was written by a guy that's like, "And then boobs come out." Man, that was... That movie hit when I was in middle school, like, right when jerking off started.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Then... Yeah.
7. DSDan Soder
  And so it was a gold mine-
8. NANarrator
  (laughs)
9. DSDan Soder
  ... 'cause you could be like, "It's a legitimate movie." It wasn't porn. Right? Like...
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Right. But she's topless.
11. DSDan Soder
  Oh, dude, the sex scene in the pool is the dumbest shit, where she goes like...
12. JRJoe Rogan
  She starts flopping around.
13. DSDan Soder
  Where she looks, yeah, she looks possessed.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  It's, it doesn't make any sense that anybody would, would be like, not lose their boner and go, "Oh my God, she's insane."
15. DSDan Soder
  Yeah.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  "I'm having sex with an insane person."
17. DSDan Soder
  Also, that would hurt-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
19. DSDan Soder
  ... having sex like that. You'd be like, "Hey, calm down."
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh, it was only NC-17. The first, and to date only NC-17 film to be given a wide release in mainstream theaters.
21. DSDan Soder
  I'm telling you.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  They made it MC... (laughs) It was so dumb.
23. DSDan Soder
  That movie-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  It's one of the dumbest movies ever.
25. DSDan Soder
  ... was so stupid.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  But it's great. But it's great to watch.
27. DSDan Soder
  Eighth grade jerk off, it's Hall of Fame.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, it's just great to watch 'cause it's so goofy.
29. DSDan Soder
  It's-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, if you're with a bunch of buddies and you get high and watch Showgirls, you're gonna laugh. You're gonna laugh really... Hinge, like, Hinchcliffe, Gillies, Showgirls.
16:31 – 17:59
Smartphone addiction and AI acceleration: school cheating, voice cloning, and inevitability
1. JRJoe Rogan
  No. No, it's not gonna be limited. (clears throat) We're in it now. We're in it now in this is us. And, um, I think it's just gonna get more and more invasive. 'Cause that seems the direction that it keeps going. If I had to guess, and then this is obviously just a guess. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, but I, I feel like this can't be stopped, especially with AI. When they're talking about AI and all the things that AI can do for, for you now, it's just people are getting papers written, they're getting busted all the time.
2. DSDan Soder
  Yes.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  ChatGPT is writing them. I- i- any answer to kinda anything. It can code websites instantaneously.
4. DSDan Soder
  It can, it can do your voice. It can replicate your voice. If you have-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  The Google one can't show white people, though.
6. DSDan Soder
  It... Really?
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Which is a real issue.
8. DSDan Soder
  That's fair.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  No, really. You didn't know this?
10. DSDan Soder
  No. (laughs)
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, dude.
12. DSDan Soder
  They can't-
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Are you ready for this?
14. DSDan Soder
  Google-
15. JRJoe Rogan
  They asked the Google one to show images of World War II Nazi soldiers.
16. DSDan Soder
  Yeah.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  And they made it all woke.
18. DSDan Soder
  (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  So they made like, a Native American Nazi, they have an Asian lady Nazi, they have a Black man Nazi.
20. DSDan Soder
  You are describing-
21. JRJoe Rogan
  It's-
22. DSDan Soder
  ... the perfect punk album cover from the '80s.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Bro, they... It couldn't describe the founding fathers of the United States.
24. DSDan Soder
  Well, they were just, they were men, but were they? Did they identify as men?
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Dude, you have to see some of these pictures.
26. DSDan Soder
  (laughs)
27. JRJoe Rogan
  See, can you... You got any, Jamie?
28. NANarrator
  I'm trying to f-
29. KWKatt Williams
  ... I know there- I was seeing it all on Twitter, so-
30. DSDan Soder
  Um, here's my question to you.
17:59 – 38:24
Google Gemini controversy: when AI rewrites history to fit ideology
1. DSDan Soder
  And this is the perfect place to ask this question about cell phones. Do you think there's any chance that cell phones are weapons from aliens that disarm us? Because we're all looking down and they know it can use our emotions. Like, like, uh, like a l- like a l- a grenade that takes a long time to explode.
2. KWKatt Williams
  Yeah.
3. DSDan Soder
  Where they're just like, they... 'Cause we each have 'em.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
5. DSDan Soder
  Everyone, uh, like... 'Cause I love alien shit and you're like, well that's... There's gotta be some alien technology, if they're watching us, they just drop some. They're like, "Hey, you guys wanna watch them get fucked up? Let's give 'em cell phones."
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Look at that.
7. DSDan Soder
  That's great.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) Founding Fathers of America.
9. DSDan Soder
  This summer, George Washington.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  I like how one of 'em is a Native American. Like, he... Uh, that's like saying a Holocaust victim is-
11. DSDan Soder
  Was a Nazi.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. That's so crazy to say that's one of the founding fathers of the United States. No, that's who we stole the land from.
13. DSDan Soder
  (laughs) Yeah, yeah. That was... This was theirs.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  What the fuck are you talking about?
15. DSDan Soder
  He goes, uh-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Look at the images of Vikings.
17. DSDan Soder
  Dude, that's great.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Look at that, a Samoan dude and a Black lady.
19. DSDan Soder
  Yeah.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Look at the popes, an Indian woman and an African man. It's amazing.
21. DSDan Soder
  This is-
22. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
23. DSDan Soder
  This is hilarious. Google Gemini. That's so funny.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
25. DSDan Soder
  Google Gemini's like, "I don't wanna say it."
26. JRJoe Rogan
  That's not good.
27. DSDan Soder
  Yeah.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause you are messing with r- the fiber of reality to fit in with your ideology. And you shouldn't be doing that if you're in control of artificial intelligence. It's supposed to be an artificially intelligent program that takes all the information in the world and gives you a take on things, right? It's not supposed to be an indoctrination tool. You can't use it to-
29. DSDan Soder
  So you're saying no, no, opinions-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  ... fit an agenda.
38:24 – 46:48
Alien-tech phones and USOs: underwater UFO bases, invisibility, and ‘we can’t see it’
1. DSDan Soder
  But that's what it, that's alien-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (clears throat)
3. DSDan Soder
  Dude, it's alien weaponry.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  You might be onto something.
5. DSDan Soder
  They're coming from under the sea-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Here's the thought.
7. DSDan Soder
  ... and they're giving us weapons. I'm all about USOs now, dude.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah?
9. DSDan Soder
  I'm all about-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Undersea UFOs?
11. DSDan Soder
  Uh, it's, uh, un- unidentified submersible objects.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm. Yeah.
13. DSDan Soder
  That's where they are, dude.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
15. DSDan Soder
  They're at the floor of the-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  That's what Katt Williams said. Yeah. We were talking about sonar, hearing devices-
17. DSDan Soder
  That just touched my heart where I'm like-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
19. DSDan Soder
  ... do we both have the same crazy theory? (laughs)
20. JRJoe Rogan
  And you said, "Is this correct or incorrect?" (laughs)
21. DSDan Soder
  Dude, I love that.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  He was (laughs) ... We were talking about, uh, space, about how we know more about space than we do about the ocean, which is true. And he was saying that those underwater listening devices were most likely so that they could, uh, hear UFOs moving around.
23. DSDan Soder
  Dude.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause if there really a- imagine if there really are bases under the ocean-
25. DSDan Soder
  Here's-
26. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and they know about them.
27. DSDan Soder
  Well, here's the thing that if they know about them, fuck you, you should tell us.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  You should fucking tell us.
29. DSDan Soder
  But here's what I think. The theory I had... 'Cause I heard about... I, I listened to an episode of Last Podcast on the Left where they were talking about USOs and I got super into it-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm.
46:48 – 49:55
If dolphins had legs: intelligence, violence, and nature’s darker strategies
1. DSDan Soder
  If, if there were... if there was like, uh... I tried this as a bit, but it never worked. If dolphins had legs, like if they just came out-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
3. DSDan Soder
  'Cause they rape (laughs) and like if dolphins came out and just on land-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
5. DSDan Soder
  ... and you'd be like... 'Cause they're so... they're all muscle.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
7. DSDan Soder
  So, they would just fuck our shit up.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, they'd kill you.
9. DSDan Soder
  Yeah.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
11. DSDan Soder
  A dolphin that could breathe-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
13. DSDan Soder
  ... and then-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, you're in trouble.
15. DSDan Soder
  Yeah, we're absolutely fucked.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  You're in trouble. Imagine living where I was so pro-dolphin-
17. DSDan Soder
  But, but I bet you'd be-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... but dolphins evolved legs and they just become the worst rapists on the planet.
19. DSDan Soder
  Yeah. And they're like, "What were you wearing?" And you go-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  No, they rape your dog. They rape everything.
21. DSDan Soder
  (laughs) Just everything.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  They don't give a fuck, like-
23. DSDan Soder
  They rape your car.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
25. DSDan Soder
  Yeah. Yeah, she... I got-
26. JRJoe Rogan
  They're super intelligent-
27. DSDan Soder
  Yeah.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and they just fuck everything they find.
29. DSDan Soder
  I think of my Altima got fucked by a dolphin, I'm gonna be late to work.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
49:55 – 1:01:41
Orcas in captivity: Blackfish, trainer deaths, and the ethics of marine ‘slavery’
1. JRJoe Rogan
  How weird is it we put those things in swimming pools?
2. DSDan Soder
  And pet them and-
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Ride them and shit.
4. DSDan Soder
  Yeah. Just tricks. Do a trick. I, uh-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  So weird.
6. DSDan Soder
  I went to the Atlanta Aquarium. They have a great aquarium and I was doing shows there and I went and, um, I went to the dolphin exhibit. And I thought it was funny 'cause these dolphin trainers are also scientists.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
8. DSDan Soder
  But then they have to dance. (laughs)
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
10. DSDan Soder
  It's, like, the weirdest thing. They're like, they know all this stuff about dolphins, but then they're like, "Hey. Do a little, do a little routine and feed them a fish." And you're like, "How disrespected are you as a scientist-"
11. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
12. DSDan Soder
  ... that they're like, "And fucking twirl around a little bit." (laughs)
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah.
14. DSDan Soder
  You know? And making these incredibly intelligent, wild, wild beasts of the sea do these dance... I'm surprised they don't snap all the time.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
16. DSDan Soder
  Do they kill a lot of trainers?
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Killer whales do. They've killed a few.
18. DSDan Soder
  Yeah. That's when they bring them down.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  There was one they kept, they kept using them 'cause they're so valuable, a male killer whale, so he killed someone and they kept him around.
20. DSDan Soder
  Who's the guy that's next up on that?
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Ugh.
22. DSDan Soder
  Who's the guy that they're like-
23. JRJoe Rogan
  I think they sold him to another place.
24. DSDan Soder
  That's what you do. 'Cause no one working there will be like-
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Whatever happened with that one? There was one in SeaWorld... So the four to... Four fatal attacks by orcas in captivity. Tilikum-
26. DSDan Soder
  Oh.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  ... was involved in three.
28. DSDan Soder
  And he's the, uh-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  He killed three people.
30. DSDan Soder
  He's the one from Blackfish, right?
1:01:41 – 1:06:42
Hollywood predators and institutional protection: Schneider, Savile, Sandusky, Nassar
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, isn't that like, the, the idea of, like ... If you ran, like, a, a billionaire pedophile business.
2. DSDan Soder
  Sure. All right. I'm with you.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  And you did it through an animation company.
4. DSDan Soder
  Oh. Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Isn't it kinda like that?
6. DSDan Soder
  Well, the Nickelodeon thing, where that guy got busted. That guy ... Jay and I talked about it on the bonfire before I left, but this guy at Nickelodeon did a ... He was, like, on ... Remember the show Head of the Class?
7. GVGuest (unidentified clip voice)
  Mm-hmm.
8. DSDan Soder
  He was-
9. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't remember it.
10. GVGuest (unidentified clip voice)
  I know who you're talking about.
11. DSDan Soder
  Yeah, this guy, his name's, his name's Dan something. And he was, uh, uh, higher up at, at Nickelodeon, and they found out that he was just, like, um, uh, like, wildly abusing everyone. Like, feet pictures. Dude, his pool at his house ... This guy, Dan Schneider, this guy, his pool at his house is a foot. (laughs) And he-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
13. DSDan Soder
  And he was accused of having, like, a crazy foot fetish. If you have a crazy foot fetish, don't make your pool a foot.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Whoa.
15. DSDan Soder
  Yeah. Invest- Yeah, there's a series. That's what it is. I learn all my shit from bad documentaries.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Y- the problem is, if you get busted for something like that, and you look like that, everyone's gonna believe you did it. (laughs)
17. DSDan Soder
  Yeah, bud, you got pedophile face like a motherfucker.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  He's got that face. You're like-
19. DSDan Soder
  Yeah. Ugh.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, some deviant shit. Yeah.
21. DSDan Soder
  You know who else had that was the, uh, guy that did all the boy bands in Orlando? Lou, um-
22. GVGuest (unidentified clip voice)
  Pearlman.
23. DSDan Soder
  ... Lou P- What was his name?
24. GVGuest (unidentified clip voice)
  Pearlman.
25. DSDan Soder
  Lou Pearlman. Lou Pearlman, you're just like, "Yeah, you abu- ... You abused kids." Like, you see a picture of him.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Bro, the best one is Jimmy Savile.
27. DSDan Soder
  Oh, my God, dude. That ... Yeah, look at that.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah.
29. DSDan Soder
  Look at, look at him.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Look at him.

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Cold open: Katt Williams’ weed, roasting friends, and setting the tone

Why Katt Williams is a unique standup force (and too famous for clubs)

Howard Hughes paranoia and the dangers of billionaire isolation

From cocaine’s invention to the drug war: cartels, corruption, and unintended consequences

Cocaine-era movies, Showgirls, and how adolescence changed in the internet age

Smartphone addiction and AI acceleration: school cheating, voice cloning, and inevitability

Google Gemini controversy: when AI rewrites history to fit ideology

Alien-tech phones and USOs: underwater UFO bases, invisibility, and ‘we can’t see it’

If dolphins had legs: intelligence, violence, and nature’s darker strategies

Orcas in captivity: Blackfish, trainer deaths, and the ethics of marine ‘slavery’

Hollywood predators and institutional protection: Schneider, Savile, Sandusky, Nassar

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