Joe Rogan Experience #2122 - Protect Our Parks 11

Narrator 0:00 (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

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Shane Gillis 0:13 Hello.

Joe Rogan 0:14 Yes, we're back.

Shane Gillis 0:15 Whoo!

Joe Rogan 0:15 Fellas, let's go. So much shit to talk about.

Shane Gillis 0:18 So much.

Joe Rogan 0:18 You see that wild shit that's going on in Scotland where they're, they're targeting comedians for hate crime laws?

Shane Gillis 0:23 No.

Ari Shaffir 0:23 Still?

Joe Rogan 0:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ari Shaffir 0:24 From, uh, what's his name?

Joe Rogan 0:25 Keep tr-

Ari Shaffir 0:26 Count Chocula? Count Dracula?

Joe Rogan 0:27 Well, yeah, that was the si- same place with that guy, Dankula, right?

Ari Shaffir 0:30 Count Dankula?

Joe Rogan 0:30 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 0:31 Dankula?

Joe Rogan 0:31 He got in trouble. You know the story?

Shane Gillis 0:32 Sounds like a weed head.

Ari Shaffir 0:33 Do you remember that one?

Shane Gillis 0:33 No.

Joe Rogan 0:34 He got in trouble for making his dog do a Hitler.

Ari Shaffir 0:36 He turned his- (laughs)

Shane Gillis 0:36 Oh, that. (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 0:37 He trained his dog to go "Heil Hitler," just do it to fuck with his girlfriend. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:39 Yeah. German shepherd.

Shane Gillis 0:40 You got in trouble for that?

Joe Rogan 0:41 No, it was a little pug.

Ari Shaffir 0:42 Yeah, he got, by the law.

Joe Rogan 0:43 It was a cute little pug.

Shane Gillis 0:44 Pull it up.

Joe Rogan 0:45 Bro, I think he got arrested for that.

Ari Shaffir 0:45 I've done that in my whole life.

Shane Gillis 0:47 Like, why?

Joe Rogan 0:47 (laughs) They brought him to fucking jail.

Ari Shaffir 0:49 You get in trouble for... I do that every time I see a dog. I did it with my ki- my friend's kid.

Joe Rogan 0:53 Yeah, you push his elbow and he does it. It's great.

Shane Gillis 0:55 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 0:55 "Please, Scotland, we don't, won't target comedians under new hate crime law." That's what you say now, but standup shows still come under its scope.

Shane Gillis 1:04 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:05 Jesus Christ, Scotland, you have one of the biggest fucking comedy festivals on Earth-

Shane Gillis 1:10 That's true.

Joe Rogan 1:10 ... every year. It's a huge comedy festival.

Shane Gillis 1:13 But they're pretty queefy over there. They'll, they'll-

Ari Shaffir 1:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:15 ... cancel the show quick.

Ari Shaffir 1:15 They will be. They'll queef it up.

Joe Rogan 1:16 But this is so queefy.

Ari Shaffir 1:17 Hate crime?

Narrator 1:18 Age, disability, religion, sexual orientate-

Ari Shaffir 1:21 Fuck, my whole act.

Joe Rogan 1:21 What? Yeah, everyone's whole act.

Ari Shaffir 1:23 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 1:23 (laughs)

Narrator 1:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:23 I was gonna say marital acts. (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 1:24 Stirring up hatred on certain grounds.

Shane Gillis 1:26 (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 1:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:26 It's everybody's act.

Ari Shaffir 1:28 Sexual orientation, yeah.

Shane Gillis 1:29 What? These are just things that exist. You gotta talk about age.

Joe Rogan 1:36 This is so ridiculous.

Ari Shaffir 1:38 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 1:40 Wow, Scotland got weird.

Ari Shaffir 1:41 That's... Is that a real thing? No way.

Joe Rogan 1:42 "The training materials based on Scottish government's explanatory notes which accompany the legislation. This included examples of a range of scenarios where offensive, um, offenses might take place, but this does not mean officers have been told to target these situations or locations."

Ari Shaffir 1:58 But they can if they want?

Joe Rogan 1:59 Yeah, but if they can if they want.

Ari Shaffir 2:00 Dude, the mugshots from this are going to be hilarious.

Joe Rogan 2:03 This is so stupid.

Shane Gillis 2:05 Yeah.

Ari Shaffir 2:05 (laughs) Every, every comic hamming it up-

Shane Gillis 2:06 I-

Ari Shaffir 2:06 ... for getting arrested for an AIDS joke.

Joe Rogan 2:08 What I've j- what's been explained to me-

Ari Shaffir 2:10 (laughs) And then, "Hey-o!"

Shane Gillis 2:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:11 What, what's been explained to me by my friends in the UK, specifically Francis Foster from, um-

Shane Gillis 2:17 Triggernometry.

Joe Rogan 2:17 ... Triggernometry, he's awesome. Uh, he was telling me that this government is, like, on the way out, and that they're out of their fucking mind.

Ari Shaffir 2:23 They're just doing shit so they try?

Joe Rogan 2:23 And so there's this... It's, it's, uh, every y- every fucking generation goes this way, then that way. This way and they go too far left, then they go too far right. (sighs)

Shane Gillis 2:32 Scotland.

Joe Rogan 2:32 And so these fucking kooks have decided they're gonna t- target people and put them in jail. Did you hear what happened in Belgium? The dude got a year in jail for memes that were shared, memes that they shared in a private chat.

Ari Shaffir 2:46 No. What?

Joe Rogan 2:47 Yes.

Shane Gillis 2:48 Oh, no. We-

Ari Shaffir 2:48 Dude, the mugshots from this are going to be hilarious.

Joe Rogan 2:51 We saw the memes.

Shane Gillis 2:52 We go straight to the gulag.

Ari Shaffir 2:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:52 The memes are nothing.

Ari Shaffir 2:53 Wait, we saw the memes?

Joe Rogan 2:54 Yeah, you can see the memes.

Shane Gillis 2:55 Oh.

Joe Rogan 2:56 You can find- the memes are online, but-

Ari Shaffir 2:57 They're not that funny?

Joe Rogan 2:58 No, one of them was, like, a Hitler one that was, like, anti-Hitler. It was, like, an anti-Nazi meme.

Shane Gillis 3:05 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 3:05 Like, and this was one of the ones that was cited as being one of the offenses.

Ari Shaffir 3:09 Damn.

Joe Rogan 3:09 It's fu- in a fucking private chat.

Shane Gillis 3:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:12 Imagine if our protector hearts-

Ari Shaffir 3:13 A private chat. How'd they get in?

Shane Gillis 3:14 Oh my God.

Ari Shaffir 3:15 Had, before the show started, the conversation's cut out.

Joe Rogan 3:16 Right now we should delete our data right now for-

Ari Shaffir 3:19 I think-

Joe Rogan 3:20 ... the purpose of this podcast.

Shane Gillis 3:21 We probably should.

Ari Shaffir 3:21 ... we should, we should have a, we should have a mass delete.

Joe Rogan 3:23 Three, two, one, go. (laughs) The podcast is worse.

Shane Gillis 3:26 (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 3:26 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 3:26 Turn the keys.

Joe Rogan 3:27 Yeah.

Ari Shaffir 3:28 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 3:28 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 3:29 The podcast alone.

Narrator 3:30 Yeah, this is worse than the group chat.

Ari Shaffir 3:32 Yeah, this is worse.

Joe Rogan 3:32 Yeah, this is worse.

Narrator 3:32 By the end of this episode, it'll be worse than-

Shane Gillis 3:34 You think?

Joe Rogan 3:35 That's how it always goes. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 3:35 (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 3:36 Group chat is like, look at this kid following me.

Joe Rogan 3:39 Right? Right?

Shane Gillis 3:39 I don't remember most of the back half.

Ari Shaffir 3:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:41 You gotta see this Belgium story and realize, this fucking dumb shit is happening in 2024 with the internet.

Ari Shaffir 3:46 Damn.

Joe Rogan 3:47 2024, and you're going after people's phones and their private group ch- private chat?

Shane Gillis 3:52 Well, if everyone's private shit got leaked, we'd all be-

Joe Rogan 3:54 We're gonna-

Ari Shaffir 3:55 They go to jail for it too?

Joe Rogan 3:56 Here's the thing, how-

Ari Shaffir 3:56 What a bunch of snitch.

Joe Rogan 3:57 ... how far are we from being able to listen to anybody talk at any time? The government can already do it. How far is, like, everybody from being able to do that, and everybody assuming that everything you say all the time is being recorded?

Shane Gillis 4:11 Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:11 You know how fucked we're gonna be if that happened?

Ari Shaffir 4:13 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 4:13 Well, it's good you got Alexa in your house, your phone hears everything.

Joe Rogan 4:16 Yeah, but it's also, it's like, if it was actionable, like if you start talking about things. Like say if you're talking about some kind of medication that you can't use or some new law that they're gonna pass that's gonna fuck up free speech, whatever it is. If that, if you're talking about that and then all of a sudden cops show up.

Ari Shaffir 4:32 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 4:32 And if you're like, "I wanna kill these motherfuckers." 'Cause people say that shit.

Ari Shaffir 4:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:36 You get around a guy and he's drunk and he's, you know, makes $50,000 a year and he sees where his tax money is going to and he could barely get by and he's fucking hammered. "I wanna fucking kill Nancy Pelosi."

Ari Shaffir 4:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:45 They get crazy.

Shane Gillis 4:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:47 People get crazy. It doesn't mean they're actually gonna do it.

Ari Shaffir 4:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:50 He's just getting drunk, it's just-

Shane Gillis 4:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:51 ... drunk talk.

Narrator 4:51 Other than, other than that guy.

Joe Rogan 4:53 The one who got into it.

Shane Gillis 4:54 The one guy who gets into it.

Ari Shaffir 4:54 Listen.

Narrator 4:55 The hammer.

Ari Shaffir 4:55 Put that hammer down and listen to me. I won't kill Nancy Pelosi.

Joe Rogan 4:57 He goes, "Nope."

Narrator 4:58 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 4:58 That real go-getter.

Joe Rogan 4:59 Yeah. That guy was like, "Nope."

Ari Shaffir 5:01 What a wild moment when he looks and sees the cops, he's like, "Oh, I guess it's now."

Shane Gillis 5:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:07 How- (laughs) how crazy-

Ari Shaffir 5:07 It better be now or forget it.

Joe Rogan 5:08 ... is Paul Pelosi that he only had one hand on the dude because his other hand was on his drink?

Shane Gillis 5:13 Yeah. In his underwear.

Joe Rogan 5:14 Like how much faith did he have-

Ari Shaffir 5:17 Smash that drink in that guy's face.

Joe Rogan 5:17 ... that he could get away with things?

Shane Gillis 5:19 Well, they knew each other clearly.

Ari Shaffir 5:20 They knew each other.

Joe Rogan 5:20 Do you think so?

Shane Gillis 5:21 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:22 I don't...

Ari Shaffir 5:22 I don't know.

Shane Gillis 5:22 They were flying around.

Joe Rogan 5:22 I don't... The guy broke into the house with a hammer.

Narrator 5:24 Seems like Paulo was trying to keep it chill.

Joe Rogan 5:26 Yeah. I don't think they knew each other.

Shane Gillis 5:28 Oh.

Joe Rogan 5:28 No, I think that was the-

Ari Shaffir 5:29 Oh, yeah, that's the rumor.

Joe Rogan 5:30 ... that was the rumor that he was a gay lover.

Shane Gillis 5:32 That's what I heard.

Joe Rogan 5:32 Yeah, no, no, no.

Ari Shaffir 5:33 Yeah, it was fun. It was fun, it was funny to believe in.

Joe Rogan 5:33 This, there's a video of the guy using the hammer he hit him in the fucking head with to break into the house, like just banging on the back door. So he gets in the house-

Ari Shaffir 5:40 It sounds like ex-girlfriend shit though.

Shane Gillis 5:42 Exactly.

Ari Shaffir 5:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:43 Does it though? It's just like, I think it's a schizophrenic in your house with a hammer.

Ari Shaffir 5:47 Big Nancy Pelosi was like, "You said you wouldn't embarrass me."

Shane Gillis 5:49 Yeah, it's a gay quarrel.

Joe Rogan 5:51 Oh.

Narrator 5:51 (laughs) Maybe she sent someone in to whack him.

Joe Rogan 5:53 You're breaking into the house.

Narrator 5:53 Maybe she thought about half of that $200 million she stole-

Ari Shaffir 5:56 Yeah.

Narrator 5:56 ... and she's like, "You know what?"

Joe Rogan 5:57 Woo!

Narrator 5:57 Love it.

Shane Gillis 5:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:57 This is a horrible video, man. I hate this video.

Shane Gillis 5:59 Oh, shit.

Ari Shaffir 6:00 She's like, "Come on over."

Joe Rogan 6:01 'Cause look at him, he's not even looking.

Narrator 6:02 Oh.

Joe Rogan 6:02 And this guy's got a fucking hammer.

Shane Gillis 6:04 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 6:04 And he's got his hand on the hammer and then the guy breaks the hammer loose-

Ari Shaffir 6:07 Oh!

Shane Gillis 6:07 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 6:07 ... and just bangs him in the head.

Shane Gillis 6:08 Jesus!

Ari Shaffir 6:09 A bunch of times.

Joe Rogan 6:09 And, no, he hit him more than once, I think.

Ari Shaffir 6:11 Yeah, on the way down.

Joe Rogan 6:11 When he went down, he hit him again.

Ari Shaffir 6:13 On the way down.

Joe Rogan 6:13 But the thing is, like-

Ari Shaffir 6:14 With that hammer.

Joe Rogan 6:14 ... he's snoring.... now, when you're that old and you get knocked the fuck out like that-

Mark Normand 6:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:20 ... that is really bad. I mean, he might not ever be the same again. He got hit in the head with a fucking metal hammer.

Mark Normand 6:27 Still holding the drink though, you're right.

Joe Rogan 6:29 Bro, it's crazy he only had one hand on that hammer.

Mark Normand 6:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:32 That is so nuts. It's his superiority, his abil-... he's, his confidence that he has, that everything's gonna be fine.

Mark Normand 6:39 What's his nightshirt with the Pelo- (laughs)

Guest 6:41 It's a big guy too, that's-

Joe Rogan 6:42 Big guy.

Guest 6:42 ... excuse me, for an actor, you know that.

Joe Rogan 6:43 Big, crazy-looking motherfucker who just broke into your house and he has a hammer.

Guest 6:47 He'll be on Killer Tony soon.

Mark Normand 6:48 Fucking Murph from the front bar, breaking into your house. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:49 He thought that he was gonna, like, keep that guy chill until the cops got there. And once the cops got there, he was gonna keep him chilled and they were just gonna arrest that guy.

Mark Normand 6:56 He's, like, leading him forward too. He's like, "Come on, come on."

Joe Rogan 6:59 Yeah, but you can't let a guy turn your hand that way, stupid. You're against your thumb now.

Guest 7:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:03 If you, if you're... If someone's grabbing something, they try and take it from you-

Mark Normand 7:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:07 ... look, always-

Guest 7:08 Oh, is that him?

Joe Rogan 7:09 ... always have something this way.

Mark Normand 7:11 Wait, that's the-

Guest 7:11 David DiFato.

Joe Rogan 7:12 Yeah, this is the guy breaking into the house.

Mark Normand 7:13 He's so calm.

Guest 7:14 I know.

Joe Rogan 7:15 He's a fucking psychopath.

Mark Normand 7:16 I love it.

Joe Rogan 7:18 So he-

Mark Normand 7:18 He's so calm.

Joe Rogan 7:19 ... pulls out a hammer. Look, he's got, like, a sleeping bag. He's a fucking crazy homeless dude.

Guest 7:24 Wow, he got in there pretty easy.

Joe Rogan 7:25 Wait, do you think he had anything to do with the Pelosis? Like, is that worth saying?

Mark Normand 7:27 How does this guy not have top-notch security?

Guest 7:32 I know, right?

Joe Rogan 7:32 How were you so confident that you could just sleep in that house-

Mark Normand 7:36 Yeah, he could be... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:37 ... in your crime-infested city? That is so cra- I mean, that city-

Guest 7:42 Wow.

Joe Rogan 7:42 ... is infested with crime.

Mark Normand 7:44 He's so calm.

Guest 7:45 He looks like the comic book guy from Sin City.

Mark Normand 7:47 Totally.

Joe Rogan 7:47 He's ha- he's totally got a plan. And he's also confident no one has a gun.

Mark Normand 7:52 I like how he pulls out carefully all those tools, and then the plan is smash it.

Guest 7:56 (laughs)

Mark Normand 7:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Guest 7:58 (laughs)

Mark Normand 7:58 Look at that with his foot.

Joe Rogan 7:58 And still, you still can't get in.

Mark Normand 8:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:03 So he bashes through this fucking door, which took a while.

Guest 8:06 Pelosi's-

Joe Rogan 8:06 Made a lot of noise.

Guest 8:07 ... pretty calm. I would be freaking out.

Joe Rogan 8:09 Insane.

Mark Normand 8:10 With a great sex at that point.

Joe Rogan 8:11 The guy broke the door with a hammer.

Guest 8:14 (laughs) Good point.

Joe Rogan 8:15 Maybe we, we missed-

Guest 8:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:16 ... a whole chunk where the guy just runs up to him and blows him.

Guest 8:19 Oh, yeah.

Mark Normand 8:19 Yeah, maybe he broke in, but then-

Joe Rogan 8:20 Like, this was the fantasy. The fantasy was like... And th- and then Pelosi's like, "I'm not praying to you. The cops are here."

Guest 8:25 (laughs)

Mark Normand 8:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:25 "Like, you broke my door."

Mark Normand 8:26 Yeah.

Guest 8:26 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 8:27 And then he hits him with a hammer. (laughs) Maybe we're missing context.

Mark Normand 8:30 Cops-

Guest 8:30 Maybe we're missing-

Mark Normand 8:30 Thank God, you're here.

Joe Rogan 8:31 Bro, that's a horrific video to watch though. I d- I don't... I won't listen to it.

Guest 8:35 Yeah, it's bad.

Joe Rogan 8:35 It's horrible.

Mark Normand 8:35 It's a clunk.

Guest 8:36 What?

Joe Rogan 8:36 It's a horrible thud and then the snoring. Regardless of what you think about them stealing money, that's terrible. That's just terrible.

Guest 8:43 I do-

Joe Rogan 8:44 Th- they definitely stole a lot of money.

Guest 8:45 I follow her stock tips.

Joe Rogan 8:46 That stock tip thing.

Mark Normand 8:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:47 I say stole money, what I should be saying is engaged in insider trading, that's legal.

Mark Normand 8:51 Yeah.

Guest 8:51 There you go.

Joe Rogan 8:52 And it's just nuts that it's legal.

Mark Normand 8:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:54 It's nuts that they can pass laws and they know the laws are coming, and then they buy up stock and then they get ... paid. (laughs)

Mark Normand 9:02 I-

Guest 9:02 Yeah, but who's... They can't be stopped. Who's gonna stop them?

Mark Normand 9:05 They can't be stopped. They would have to stop them.

Guest 9:05 Other than a hero-

Joe Rogan 9:06 (sighs)

Guest 9:06 Not a hammer. (laughs)

Mark Normand 9:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:07 (laughs)

Guest 9:08 Other than one heroic schizophrenic.

Joe Rogan 9:12 (laughs)

Guest 9:12 (laughs)

Mark Normand 9:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:12 (laughs)

Mark Normand 9:12 I mean, how do you stop them?

Guest 9:14 Bro.

Mark Normand 9:15 They make the rules.

Joe Rogan 9:15 That's gotta be a-

Mark Normand 9:16 They make the rules.

Joe Rogan 9:16 ... weird feeling to know that everybody knows that you got all your money by being a corrupt politician and you're just wandering around.

Mark Normand 9:24 Yeah. Just like, "What are you gonna do about it?"

Joe Rogan 9:26 Out in the world.

Guest 9:26 (laughs)

Mark Normand 9:26 Yeah, what are you gonna... Listen, the companies needed financial support. We supported them and we were rewarded for that.

Joe Rogan 9:31 That's also why they probably need to keep making money. Like, they need security.

Mark Normand 9:35 Lots more and more security.

Joe Rogan 9:36 Yeah.

Guest 9:36 They're not doing well.

Joe Rogan 9:37 Lots of security.

Guest 9:38 Unusual whales don't-

Joe Rogan 9:38 Whoa.

Mark Normand 9:38 Higgins going wild.

Guest 9:40 One guy-

Joe Rogan 9:40 (laughs)

Mark Normand 9:40 Let's, let's hear this.

Guest 9:41 Higgins. Really good.

Joe Rogan 9:42 He did so good.

Guest 9:43 And this other guy's got it made.

Joe Rogan 9:44 Isn't it funny that Pelosi only gets the blunt of it? Like, everybody else is doing it too.

Mark Normand 9:49 Higgins.

Guest 9:49 She's the Speaker of the House.

Joe Rogan 9:50 She's not... Right, she is the Speaker of the House, but look-

Guest 9:52 Well, she was.

Mark Normand 9:53 Right, she was.

Guest 9:53 Who's Higgins?

Joe Rogan 9:54 But when she was-

Mark Normand 9:54 Who's Spy? What does this mean?

Guest 9:55 Spy is like the S&P 500.

Mark Normand 9:57 Hold on, but isn't this a... Is this... This is based on the percentage of their returns.

Guest 10:01 Right, this is like their returns.

Mark Normand 10:02 So maybe Higgins is a new guy that just is getting there, getting really rich.

Guest 10:06 Sure.

Mark Normand 10:06 Pelosi's getting what-

Joe Rogan 10:06 Right, but he's going after it hard. Look at him. (laughs)

Mark Normand 10:08 He's going wild. Everybody... This is like the guy wearing the coat in Goodfellas.

Joe Rogan 10:12 Yeah. (laughs) Yeah.

Guest 10:12 (laughs)

Mark Normand 10:12 Where it's like, "Higgins, you dumbass."

Joe Rogan 10:14 Oh, yeah, right.

Guest 10:14 Is that the Cadillac?

Mark Normand 10:15 Yeah.

Guest 10:15 He pulls up with the Cadillac. "I said take it easy."

Mark Normand 10:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:17 "Take it back."

Guest 10:18 "Take it back."

Joe Rogan 10:19 "Take the Cadillac back."

Mark Normand 10:19 "Take the Higgins."

Joe Rogan 10:20 "Chill out."

Guest 10:20 (laughs)

Mark Normand 10:20 "I'm only here, I'm only here for one, one term. I'm gonna get mine."

Joe Rogan 10:23 Bro, that was such a good scene.

Guest 10:25 (laughs)

Mark Normand 10:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:25 Such a good scene in Goodfellas.

Mark Normand 10:27 Yeah.

Guest 10:27 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:28 Where they realize they have to kill that guy because he's got a Cadillac.

Guest 10:30 Get your shine box.

Joe Rogan 10:32 No, no, no, it was-

Mark Normand 10:33 Shine box was wonderful.

Joe Rogan 10:34 ... s- so that was a different one.

Guest 10:34 In his defense, he said it lacks context.

Joe Rogan 10:36 Insider trading. Viral post leads to claims of insider trading. He says it lacks context. What's the context?

Guest 10:43 (laughs)

Mark Normand 10:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:43 Those numbers provide a distorted view of the facts. Oh, okay. Tell me more.

Mark Normand 10:47 I like the, I like your Higgins.

Guest 10:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:49 Keep talking. Tell me more, sir.

Mark Normand 10:50 He stills says shit, yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:50 What does it say?

Mark Normand 10:51 Higgins' argument is our argument.

Guest 10:52 You scroll up, you see what his statement is?

Joe Rogan 10:53 It's like, it's out of context.

Mark Normand 10:54 Right.

Joe Rogan 10:55 It's funny that he has to... uh, well, then, here it goes. "These numbers provide a distorted view of the facts that a spokesperson for Higgins..." Better, even better move, use a spokesperson. In a statement to 7 News, "The truth is, Congressman Higgins has minimal investments and holdings. In 2023-"

Mark Normand 11:11 Oh.

Joe Rogan 11:11 "... one position, which he had held for years and is held by millions of other people, performed well. Rep. Higgins follows all ethics and financial reporting requirements. Relatively speaking, he has always ranked amongst the most modest income earners in Com-

Mark Normand 11:25 Oh, it said he had less than 100 grand in the stocks. So when he went up-

Joe Rogan 11:28 oh-

Guest 11:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mark Normand 11:29 ... 80 grand-

Joe Rogan 11:29 He went up a giant percentage.

Mark Normand 11:29 It was like, that's massive.

Guest 11:31 Ah.

Mark Normand 11:31 It's like, it's like the Pistons winning two games in a row.

Guest 11:33 Also. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:34 Also, if he has a minimal investments and holdings and he just gets lucky and he's got one of them is, like, NVIDIA.

Mark Normand 11:39 Yeah.

Guest 11:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:40 Like, NVIDIA is a common one to hold.

Mark Normand 11:41 Because I've had it for years, it doubled. What am I supposed to do?

Joe Rogan 11:43 It definitely jumped up when Nancy Pelosi (laughs) fucking passed them bills.

Mark Normand 11:48 Hey, Nancy, I, I... You know anything about NVIDIA?

Joe Rogan 11:50 (laughs)

Mark Normand 11:50 Anything, ch- chances I could do better? I got a lot of money to bring up with this, and my kids are in school.

Guest 11:54 (laughs) You gotta admire it because it's in front of everybody. It's like, "What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?" What do they care? I mean, she banged Kennedy.

Joe Rogan 11:59 Did she?

Guest 11:59 Pull that photo up of her.

Mark Normand 12:00 Pelosi?

Guest 12:01 Yeah, she was super young and hot.

Mark Normand 12:03 No.

Guest 12:03 But are you sure she banged him or did she just knew him?

Joe Rogan 12:06 Still in the cans.

Guest 12:06 Well, I think if you're in Kennedy's orbit, you're kind of blowing him.

Mark Normand 12:08 You kind of want to and have to.

Joe Rogan 12:09 Yeah. (laughs)

Guest 12:10 I mean, it's true. (laughs)

Mark Normand 12:12 I think that's, I think that's-

Joe Rogan 12:12 Minimum.

Mark Normand 12:13 I think that's pretty standard.

Joe Rogan 12:14 Minimum.

Guest 12:14 Isn't it funny that everybody considers him like our greatest of all time president?

Mark Normand 12:17 Hey, look at the young hands.

Joe Rogan 12:19 Whoa. She's younger than Monica Lewinsky.

Guest 12:21 She's 17.

Joe Rogan 12:21 She's 17.

Guest 12:21 Peblosi.

Joe Rogan 12:24 Wow. (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 12:24 She's 17, Mark, you sex pervert. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 12:26 Oh, was that right?

Joe Rogan 12:27 Do you think-

Shane Gillis 12:28 Well, that was legal then.

Joe Rogan 12:29 Do you think JFK-

Ari Shaffir 12:29 She's still older than us.

Joe Rogan 12:30 True. (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 12:30 Do you really think JFK was banging 17-year-olds?

Joe Rogan 12:33 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 12:33 Yes.

Ari Shaffir 12:34 Yeah, probably.

Shane Gillis 12:34 100%.

Joe Rogan 12:35 Wasn't frowned upon. Is that an insane... Imagine bringing that up in a history class. Imagine being in like a history class-

Shane Gillis 12:42 Kids, go.

Joe Rogan 12:42 ... at JFK-

Shane Gillis 12:42 That's a cool teacher.

Joe Rogan 12:44 ... and telling the teacher, "You know what I think?" (laughs)

Shane Gillis 12:46 Yeah. Yeah.

Ari Shaffir 12:46 Wasn't he probably, though, banging a lot of 17-year-olds? (laughs) Like, oh... Let's get back to the Bay of Pigs.

Joe Rogan 12:50 Didn't he literally- (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 12:52 That's what I'm saying. Let's get... Let's talk about this.

Shane Gillis 12:53 That's a good name for his pool, the Bay of Pigs.

Joe Rogan 12:56 Didn't he literally fuck everything that moved? (laughs) It's kinda crazy but to be like the leader of a country like that, it's almost like a prerequisite. You have to be a poonhound. That's how you... The only reason why you have the ambition to get to that spot in the first place.

Shane Gillis 13:08 Yeah, and up until Clinton, it was just... You kinda made fun of the girls.

Joe Rogan 13:12 And if you're not and you get into that position, like now I'm skeptical. Like, what's your motive?

Ari Shaffir 13:17 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 13:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:18 'Cause it's either war and money or pussy.

Shane Gillis 13:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 13:21 I'll take, I'll take the guy who just wants pussy every day of the week.

Shane Gillis 13:24 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:24 It seems like the best ones.

Ari Shaffir 13:26 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 13:27 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 13:27 Clinton, Clinton when he was president.

Ari Shaffir 13:28 Trump.

Joe Rogan 13:29 Trump, for sure.

Shane Gillis 13:31 Obama wanted dick.

Joe Rogan 13:32 That's allegedly, Obama.

Ari Shaffir 13:34 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 13:34 Oh.

Ari Shaffir 13:34 He got it, I thought.

Joe Rogan 13:35 That's allegedly.

Ari Shaffir 13:35 He was faithful for that one.

Shane Gillis 13:36 Allegedly.

Joe Rogan 13:38 That's allegedly.

Shane Gillis 13:38 Big Mike.

Joe Rogan 13:38 Allegedly. But our favorite is JFK and he's like the known biggest poonhound.

Ari Shaffir 13:42 He's the known.

Joe Rogan 13:43 The known biggest.

Ari Shaffir 13:43 What about those older guys, the drawn guys? You think any of them-

Shane Gillis 13:46 Taft.

Ari Shaffir 13:46 ... were poonhounds? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:47 Which ones? Like the old, old-timey guys?

Ari Shaffir 13:49 The ones that got... Yeah.

Shane Gillis 13:49 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:49 Yeah.

Ari Shaffir 13:50 Ones that were drawn, not photographed.

Shane Gillis 13:51 Definitely. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:52 Oh, what about the guy in the wheelchair?

Shane Gillis 13:53 Oh.

Joe Rogan 13:53 Back in the drawing days, you could do whatever the fuck you want.

Ari Shaffir 13:57 You can do whatever... Yeah. You're not gonna be here long enough for someone to sketch this. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 13:58 You could kill, you could kill a lady.

Joe Rogan 14:00 You could kill everybody.

Ari Shaffir 14:01 And just go to the next town.

Shane Gillis 14:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:02 You could kill everybody and then they ask you-

Ari Shaffir 14:03 As a president.

Joe Rogan 14:03 ... "Did you kill them?"

Ari Shaffir 14:04 "We're moving to Annapolis." (laughs) "Sorry, Philly." And then he did it again. He goes, "We gotta... Let's go further."

Shane Gillis 14:09 Yeah, "This place sucks."

Ari Shaffir 14:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:09 What were their investigations like?

Shane Gillis 14:12 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:13 You know, "Did you kill them?" "Nope."

Ari Shaffir 14:14 Okay.

Joe Rogan 14:14 "No forensics."

Shane Gillis 14:15 All right.

Ari Shaffir 14:15 All right, sounds right.

Joe Rogan 14:16 Sounds good. Yeah.

Shane Gillis 14:18 Yeah, just evidence.

Joe Rogan 14:20 God, the lawyers back then. It's like, "Ah, I just, I just lost the witch trials, I'm your new attorney." (laughs)

Shane Gillis 14:25 (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 14:25 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 14:25 You're like, "God dammit."

Joe Rogan 14:26 That was the worst lawyer of all time.

Shane Gillis 14:28 How did you lose that one?

Ari Shaffir 14:29 The witch trials, the witch trials were the wildest shit of all time.

Shane Gillis 14:31 They're witches. I got nothing.

Ari Shaffir 14:33 They didn't even give you a lawyer back then. That's like pretty new.

Joe Rogan 14:35 Yeah.

Ari Shaffir 14:36 Where they have to give you a lawyer. So they're just like, "I can read, you can't. Good luck with your trial."

Shane Gillis 14:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:41 I think mostly they drowned them too.

Ari Shaffir 14:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:42 It wasn't really a burning thing.

Shane Gillis 14:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:44 The burning thing is kind of a misnomer, right?

Shane Gillis 14:46 Edinburgh.

Ari Shaffir 14:46 Is that, is that right, Mark?

Joe Rogan 14:47 I don't know, man.

Ari Shaffir 14:48 The drowning thing they used to do, for sure-

Joe Rogan 14:50 He's just pointing at me.

Ari Shaffir 14:50 ... was, uh-

Joe Rogan 14:50 They definitely drowned them, right?

Ari Shaffir 14:51 They had this thing where they would put you in, like lock you to a chair and throw you in a pond.

Joe Rogan 14:55 Whoa.

Shane Gillis 14:55 Oh.

Ari Shaffir 14:55 And then they'd be like, "If she's a witch, she's gonna get out."

Joe Rogan 14:58 Right.

Ari Shaffir 14:58 Oh my God. And then no one ever got out. No one ever got... But also like-

Shane Gillis 15:00 Also they were just like, "Jesus Christ."

Joe Rogan 15:02 ... like, "Oh, shit."

Ari Shaffir 15:03 Also like if she was a witch, she would just leave. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:05 If they floated there, it proven to be a witch. If they drowned, too bad, but at least they weren't a witch. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 15:10 (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 15:11 As of now, that leaves it open.

Joe Rogan 15:12 According to Smith, this type of test was also a myth carried over from Eastern, uh, early European history.

Shane Gillis 15:18 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 15:19 It's just like the burning at the stake.

Shane Gillis 15:21 Now they just-

Joe Rogan 15:22 Interesting.

Shane Gillis 15:22 They're just cunts.

Ari Shaffir 15:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:23 Well, that's not true though. I guarantee they burned-

Ari Shaffir 15:25 We gotta kill some. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 15:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:26 ... some people alive. They definitely burned some people alive.

Ari Shaffir 15:29 They definitely... What if they didn't have a lake near them?

Joe Rogan 15:31 Listen, man. They killed people in horrific ways and just lied about it when they wrote it down afterwards.

Shane Gillis 15:36 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:36 There's a lot of that.

Ari Shaffir 15:37 Museum of Torture in Amsterdam?

Shane Gillis 15:39 I went to that.

Ari Shaffir 15:39 Go to that. It rules.

Joe Rogan 15:40 Ugh.

Ari Shaffir 15:40 It's just like this pyramid that you're supposed to let a guy put his ass on-

Shane Gillis 15:44 Yes.

Joe Rogan 15:44 Oh, my God.

Shane Gillis 15:45 That's a good way to go.

Ari Shaffir 15:46 ... and just pull, pull down. But also like, "Jesus Christ."

Joe Rogan 15:55 Just pull him apart.

Ari Shaffir 15:55 Also like, if she was a witch, she would just leave. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:23 If they floated there, proven to be a witch. If they drowned, too bad, but at least they weren't a witch. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 16:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:44 According to Smith, this type of test was also a myth carried over from Eastern, uh, early European history.

Shane Gillis 16:51 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 16:51 It's just like the burning at the stake.

Shane Gillis 16:55 Now they just-

Joe Rogan 16:55 Interesting.

Shane Gillis 16:57 ... they're just cunts.

Joe Rogan 16:57 Well, that's not true though. I guarantee they burned-

Ari Shaffir 16:58 We gotta kill some. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 16:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:58 ... some people alive. They definitely burned some people alive.

Ari Shaffir 17:00 They definitely... What if they didn't have a lake near them?

Joe Rogan 17:03 Listen, man. They killed people in horrific ways and just lied about it when they wrote it down afterwards.

Shane Gillis 17:03 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:03 There's a lot of that.

Ari Shaffir 17:03 Museum of Torture in Amsterdam?

Shane Gillis 17:05 I went to that.

Ari Shaffir 17:07 Go to that, it rules.

Joe Rogan 17:09 Ugh.

Ari Shaffir 17:09 It's just like this pyramid that you're supposed to let a guy put his ass on-

Shane Gillis 17:13 Yes.

Joe Rogan 17:13 Yes.

Ari Shaffir 17:13 ... and just pull, pull down.

Shane Gillis 17:14 That's a good way to go.

Joe Rogan 17:15 Also like, "Jesus Christ."

Ari Shaffir 17:17 Also like if she was a witch, she would just leave. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:19 If they floated there, proven to be a witch. If they drowned, too bad, but at least they weren't a witch. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 17:36 (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 17:36 As of now, that leaves it open.

Joe Rogan 18:17 But why do they think it's not true?

Ari Shaffir 18:19 Uh...

Joe Rogan 18:19 I'm always... When they start dismissing psychedelic stuff, I'm always like, "How do you know for sure, for sure?"... because if ergot does exist, and ergot is a thing that-

Guest 18:29 Yeah, I don't know why they-

Joe Rogan 18:29 ... grows on wheat-

Guest 18:30 ... ruled it out.

Joe Rogan 18:31 ... and it's really com- if a bunch of people are just fucking freaking out about things, fascina- do the cultural fascination of LSD during this period. What does it say?

Guest 18:39 It was in the 70s. So, so this theory came out in the 70s, it said, so people were-

Joe Rogan 18:42 The theory came out. Like what-

Guest 18:43 Definitely.

Joe Rogan 18:43 So when people started using acid-

Guest 18:45 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:45 ... the theory came out. See, I was under the impression that there was actual evidence of ergot and like samples that they got.

Guest 18:51 Oh.

18:51 I'm looking for that too. That's why-

Joe Rogan 18:52 Okay.

Guest 18:52 ... I found this by typing in evidence of ergot and LSD

18:54 I might be mixed up-

18:55 ... just to make sure.

18:55 ... because I know they found evidence in-

18:57 No, I've heard that story.

18:58 Y- yeah, I've heard it, but I'm not sure if it's true. Um, but I, I know they found evidence for sure in these ancient pottery vessels. So they know these, like, people that were involved in the, like, Eleusinian mysteries and, uh, all, all that shit that was going down in Greece 2,000 plus years ago, they were tripping balls.

19:13 It just says it led to this theory being put in the school curriculums as an explanation for the trials, but it's-

19:18 No way. School curriculum's taught that?

19:20 ... uh, I don't know that they have actual evidence of it, other than this-

Joe Rogan 19:24 Interesting.

Guest 19:24 ... being passed on.

19:25 Think I'm done with acid. We got mushrooms. I don't need acid anymore.

19:29 I'm the opposite.

Joe Rogan 19:30 Dude!

Guest 19:30 You like acid more?

19:31 I've taken way more acid lately.

19:32 What?

19:33 You can take it to control it.

19:34 No.

19:35 Smooth, smooth.

19:36 It's a chemical.

19:37 (laughs)

19:38 (laughs)

19:38 You're not, you're not hitting the floor, you're just like- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:40 Bro, you are trusting-

Guest 19:41 Smooth.

Joe Rogan 19:41 ... bathtub chemists with your sanity.

Guest 19:44 Yeah.

19:44 Exactly.

19:45 (laughs) You are trusting-

Joe Rogan 19:45 You are so trusting.

Guest 19:46 They're the most trustworthy. Are you gonna change that? Yeah.

19:48 (laughs)

19:48 They're not gonna fucking-

Joe Rogan 19:49 The CIA is writing this down right now and they're like, "Dose Ari Shaffir-"

Guest 19:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:53 "... with the good stuff."

Guest 19:54 I'm not giving away any secrets. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:54 The stuff we used on Jack Ruby.

Guest 19:57 Also, it's liquid. You can put it on paper-

19:59 Yeah.

19:59 ... you can get it on your hand.

20:00 Yeah.

20:00 There's cheeseburgers in.

20:01 Whew, it's so good.

Joe Rogan 20:02 That's gonna be a myth too.

Guest 20:04 Pina colada.

20:04 You think?

20:04 Seeps in your hands?

20:05 I don't think it seeps in.

Joe Rogan 20:06 No, it definitely does. That's how the original-

Guest 20:08 It does?

Joe Rogan 20:08 Yeah, that's how, uh, what's his face? Um-

Guest 20:10 Leary?

Joe Rogan 20:11 ... fuck. What is his name?

Guest 20:11 I have touched it a lot with my bare hands-

20:13 Dennis Leary.

20:13 ... but I've never gotten anything while I'm like moving it-

20:15 Dennis Leary (laughs)

20:15 ... place to place.

Joe Rogan 20:15 No, what was the, what was the name of the... Albert Hofmann. That's how Albert Hofmann discovered it. He was actually looking-

Guest 20:20 Oh.

Joe Rogan 20:20 It was a, it was a women's fertility drug they were working on.

Guest 20:23 But wasn't it still wet?

20:24 Oh.

Joe Rogan 20:25 It was to, that was what it... It was to induce labor.

Guest 20:27 Was it dr-

20:28 Whoa.

20:28 Was it dried in or was it still wet?

Joe Rogan 20:30 I think he just got it on his hands.

Guest 20:32 I mean, when you think of it-

Joe Rogan 20:32 And he had a crazy dose apparently-

Guest 20:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:35 ... and then went on a bike ride. And this dude was just tripping-

Guest 20:38 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 20:38 ... balls.

Guest 20:39 Biden.

20:39 I had a festival, I had a f- we went to a festival in Western Georgia couple years ago. And, uh, and somebody was testing all the coke. Like we gotta test it first and we're like... I thought they meant just try it. But they were like, you know, "Chemically test it."

Joe Rogan 20:48 Like a phenol-

Guest 20:49 And they go, they're like, "100% pure. Buy coke from that guy." And then later they went to get acid from this chick on a bus (laughs) and they were like, tested it. N- zero percent acid in that (laughs) .

20:58 What was it?

20:59 Some sort of like liquid mescaline, and then the guy-

21:01 Oh, my God.

21:01 ... who was like had it was like, it was freshly, uh, dipped, it's all over my hands, and he just started flying.

21:05 Whoa.

21:06 This is one of those stories I know as a music engineer, of this being true, because of the guy that like made acid was a Grateful Dead engineer supposedly.

Joe Rogan 21:12 Half a century.

Guest 21:13 That-

Joe Rogan 21:13 Wait, the guy who made acid?

Guest 21:15 One of the guys.

Joe Rogan 21:16 Oh, a guy who made it.

Guest 21:17 Like the, like the, one of the guys.

Joe Rogan 21:18 Oh, the guys. Right, okay. So not only is LSD absorbed through the skin on contact, but it can apparently stay potent for half a century.

Guest 21:26 Wow.

Joe Rogan 21:26 San Francisco sound engineer Elliott Curtis found that out for himself when he was fixing a 1960s synthesizer and then tripped for nine hours straight-

Guest 21:37 (laughs)

21:37 (laughs)

21:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:37 ... completely unaware that the device had been encrusted-

Guest 21:41 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 21:41 ... with decades old LSD.

Guest 21:44 (laughs)

21:44 (laughs)

21:44 Whoa.

21:45 Wow.

21:45 This is like a feature. But that's definitely a story that's gone around forever, so.

21:46 That guy took acid and made up a story, bro.

Joe Rogan 21:48 Yup. Or-

Guest 21:49 That guy's lying (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 21:50 ... somebody painted their... Imagine if you leave a synthesizer and you, "I'm gonna paint this bitch with acid."

Guest 21:55 Yeah. Someone's gonna touch this.

21:55 Yeah.

21:56 Whoa.

21:56 Someone's eventually gonna touch this.

Joe Rogan 21:58 Someone's gonna get their greasy fucking hands on this.

Guest 21:59 Painted it.

Joe Rogan 22:00 And just go see God.

Guest 22:02 And then draw it up.

22:02 Well, the old myth is, uh, Manson dipped a bunch of Bible pages in acid and then brought a Bible into prison, then would just eat it every day.

Joe Rogan 22:09 Well, Manson was in touch with-

Guest 22:11 It's not that-

Joe Rogan 22:11 ... Jolly West. Jolly West visited Manson when he was in prison. Jolly West was the head of MKUltra and they did LSD experiments on people. And that's the, that's the primary theory in the book Chaos. C- Ca- Chaos by this guy Tom O'Neill.

Guest 22:23 They made him crazy?

Joe Rogan 22:24 He's Fitzsimmons' buddy. Do you know, uh, Fitzsimmons was next door neighbors to this guy who was writing this book on the Manson family murders-

Guest 22:30 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:30 ... for like 20 years? That's Tom O'Neill. The book's insane. So this Jolly West guy visited Manson when he was in jail, visited Jack Ruby when he was in prison, and Jack Ruby went nuts.

Guest 22:40 Wait.

22:40 Ah.

22:40 Before they did the thing?

Joe Rogan 22:42 Yeah. Before they did the thing. Look, I think-

Guest 22:45 Wow.

Joe Rogan 22:45 ... what it was, was they were trying to get rid of the antiwar movement and they were trying to get rid of the Civil Rights movement and they were trying to get rid of a bunch of different things that were going on at the same time. And one of the ways they did it was to A, make all drugs illegal, but one of the best ways to make A- all drugs illegal and discredit the hippies is dose up a bunch of them and get them to murder people in horrific ways. And then all of a sudden the hippies become the most dangerous force in America. And if you've got the power of the media behind you, and you push that narrative and you make it happen, you know, you're essentially waging war on American civilians. You're, you're essentially waging like a psychological war on the population that's paying your salary.

Guest 23:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:23 It is a wild thing they did, but they definitely did it.

Guest 23:27 (sighs)

23:27 Damn.

23:28 Yeah. CIA is fucking lame.

23:31 It is?

Joe Rogan 23:31 They have too much power.

Guest 23:32 I don't like them.

Joe Rogan 23:32 Like all groups that have too much power, you're gonna do some wacky shit.

Guest 23:35 Mm-hmm. The Dulles, the Dulles Brothers, they can kick rocks as far as I'm concerned.

23:40 Who's that?

23:40 Dulles Airport?

23:41 Yeah. That's them.

Joe Rogan 23:42 They might be involved in-

Guest 23:43 Dulles, Texas?

Joe Rogan 23:43 ... the assassination of Kennedy too.

Guest 23:45 They probably killed JFK.

23:46 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 23:47 I think there was a lot of people involved in that.

Guest 23:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:49 I think that guy was m- he was tossing up the apple card a little too much.

Guest 23:52 Too much?

23:53 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 23:53 They were like, "Uh-uh." Too many people. And back then again-

Guest 23:56 Yeah, we're losing mine.

Joe Rogan 23:56 ... this was just like 50 years past the drawing p- of people.

Guest 23:59 All right.

Joe Rogan 24:00 I mean (laughs) -

Guest 24:00 Yeah.

24:01 Right, yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:01 You know, like you go to fucking look for a photo from 1890. Good luck, bitch. So you know-

Guest 24:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:06 ... see here you are, 60, 70 years later. That's nothing.

Guest 24:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:09 And then you're, you're dealing with one president that's gonna get rid of the fucking Federal Reserve. Shut the fuck up you are.

Guest 24:16 (laughs)

24:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

24:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:17 Shut... Who the, what the fuck is this guy doing?

Guest 24:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:19 And then he's gonna get in a convertible-

Guest 24:22 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:22 ... and drive through Texas where they hated him in Texas.

Guest 24:24 Pretty ballsy.

24:25 And suddenly it's a convertible.

Joe Rogan 24:26 Bro, they hated him in Texas.

Guest 24:27 Great headshot.

24:28 Wow.

Joe Rogan 24:28 They hated him in Texas.

Guest 24:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:30 ... like, Texas was red.

Shane Gillis 24:32 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:32 He's dr- he's driving through Dallas, they hated him.

Shane Gillis 24:34 You ever go to the X in Dallas?

Guest 24:36 Yeah, go out to the street.

Shane Gillis 24:36 That's fun, fun to see it.

Joe Rogan 24:38 Isn't it weird how little it is? Like, the area?

Shane Gillis 24:40 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:41 Anybody who says you couldn't make that shot is out of their-

Shane Gillis 24:43 Ah, come on.

Joe Rogan 24:43 ... fucking minds. Out of their-

Shane Gillis 24:45 Easy.

Joe Rogan 24:45 ... fucking minds. Now, all the arguments that he couldn't make that shot are so stupid.

Guest 24:49 You think?

Joe Rogan 24:50 Yeah.

Guest 24:50 I thought... Didn't he get... He got three off pretty quick though, right?

Joe Rogan 24:52 Here's the thing-

Guest 24:53 And he missed one by, like, a mile.

Joe Rogan 24:54 ... it doesn't mean even that that was him. It doesn't mean that.

Guest 24:58 It's someone else. All right.

Joe Rogan 24:58 It just means he was in that building.

Guest 25:00 I like it. We're back on the same page.

Joe Rogan 25:02 The- the thing about it is-

Guest 25:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:03 ... the- the thing about it is, they made up a theory-

Guest 25:06 Walkie talkies, like, on the- on the count of three, one, two, three, and then everyone just shot, bum, bum, bum.

Joe Rogan 25:09 No, they- they did something like that.

Guest 25:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:11 They saw him, they probably all had a signal, something happened-

Guest 25:14 Yeah, maybe an umbrella right next to him.

Joe Rogan 25:15 ... and they shot... They're not... If they're gonna shoot the president, Jack La-

Guest 25:18 (laughs) His- his wife for real. No, there's a guy who opened an umbrella for no... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:20 No, that's nonsense.

Guest 25:21 No, you saw.

Joe Rogan 25:21 I've seen that. It's nonsense.

Guest 25:22 (laughs) It's just a guy opening an umbrella.

Joe Rogan 25:24 It's just a guy open- they- some people think his fucking bodyguard shot him. The whole- the Secret Service guy shot him. Look, it's... There was probably a bunch of people shooting at him. He got hit in the neck, for sure. He grabs his neck.

Guest 25:34 I put that it's... From the front.

Joe Rogan 25:35 Yeah, from the front.

Guest 25:36 Clearly.

Joe Rogan 25:36 He grabs his neck.

Guest 25:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:37 They altered it when they got to the second autopsy. They did two autops- autopsies. They did, they got his body initially in Dallas, and then they flew it to Bethesda. So, in the interim, they changed what was r- listed as an entry hole in his neck to a tracheotomy.

Guest 25:53 And they say it's just like... No, no, that was just like a... They- they did it wrong over there.

Joe Rogan 25:57 Well, there was a lot of- lot of shenanigans between the two-

Shane Gillis 26:00 Y-

Guest 26:00 ... autopsies.

Joe Rogan 26:01 Now, again-

Shane Gillis 26:01 The autopsies, they wouldn't let them do it. The federal-

Joe Rogan 26:03 You got... Yeah.

Shane Gillis 26:03 They took the body. They were like-

Joe Rogan 26:04 Generals showed up. They- it was heavy-duty shit.

Guest 26:07 All people that are like, "He's gotta go."

Joe Rogan 26:08 The best book on this is Best Evidence by a guy named David Lifton who was an accountant. They hired him to go over the, uh, Warren Commission report.

Shane Gillis 26:16 Uh-

Joe Rogan 26:17 And he- he went... N- I'm sorry.

Shane Gillis 26:18 Sorry.

Guest 26:19 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 26:20 Back and to the left.

Joe Rogan 26:21 He- he- so this guy goes over this. Nobody would read the whole Warren Commission report. It's like fucking 900 pages.

Shane Gillis 26:26 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:27 But this dude read all of it. He read all of it and found all these inconsistencies, all these things that didn't make sense.

Shane Gillis 26:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:32 And so he writes this book about it.

Guest 26:33 His research was just reading it. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 26:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:36 Yeah, well, that's all you-

Guest 26:37 Anything that was out that no one went to.

Shane Gillis 26:37 ... had to start doing.

Joe Rogan 26:39 A lot of people died, dude. A lot of people that saw the assassination died in weird ways.

Shane Gillis 26:45 Bobby too.

Joe Rogan 26:46 Like, a giant number of people that were on the scene died.

Shane Gillis 26:48 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 26:49 Yeah, yeah, weird ways.

Shane Gillis 26:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:51 Like, they did a statistical analysis of what are the likelihood of all these people being either murdered or suicide-

Shane Gillis 26:57 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 26:57 ... within a short period of time, and it was very low. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 27:00 Well, thank God for Zapruder. He was like the original WorldStar-

Guest 27:02 He was the guy, yeah.

Shane Gillis 27:03 You know?

Guest 27:03 He was WorldStar.

Joe Rogan 27:04 Exactly.

Shane Gillis 27:05 He was out there filming.

Guest 27:06 He was out there filming. He was out there filming. God, he had his fucking iPhone.

Joe Rogan 27:07 And isn't it crazy that we know about this because of Dick Gregory?

Shane Gillis 27:10 Is that right?

Guest 27:11 That's right, yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:11 Dick Gregory the comic brought it on the Geraldo Rivera Show. We- we know about-

Shane Gillis 27:14 What?

Joe Rogan 27:14 ... this because of Geraldo and Dick Gregory.

Shane Gillis 27:16 I didn't know that.

Joe Rogan 27:17 Yup, they played it live on TV, and it's fucking cr- You gotta imagine, that was 12 years after the assassination.

Shane Gillis 27:23 Whoa.

Guest 27:23 You know with Dick Gregory completely stopping a comic to become a full-time activist?

Shane Gillis 27:27 Yeah, he started that trend.

Joe Rogan 27:28 Just, like, right around here.

Shane Gillis 27:30 Thanks a lot, Dick. (laughs)

Guest 27:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:30 Right around here, uh, he's going through here, he gets hit.

Guest 27:33 (laughs) That playbook's been followed.

Joe Rogan 27:35 Right here he gets hit. Boom, he's hit.

Shane Gillis 27:38 Is he?

Joe Rogan 27:39 Yes.

Shane Gillis 27:39 Oh, the neck.

Joe Rogan 27:40 He's hit. Now he knows something's going on.

Guest 27:42 He knows something's going on with that bullet in there.

Shane Gillis 27:43 The wife does nothing, thank you.

Joe Rogan 27:44 He's... I mean, he literally got shot in the neck.

Guest 27:46 She's like, "Um, excuse me."

Joe Rogan 27:47 I mean, he's- he's already probably dead.

Guest 27:49 Seems pretty serious.

Joe Rogan 27:51 But now watch this one.

Guest 27:52 He's probably already dead.

Shane Gillis 27:52 It was a rough one. This is why I'm voting for RFK.

Guest 27:56 Oh, he's spewing.

Joe Rogan 27:57 Yeah, I mean-

Shane Gillis 27:58 Oh.

Joe Rogan 27:58 ... his head exploded.

Guest 27:59 His head just like blew up.

Shane Gillis 28:00 Whoa, I missed it.

Joe Rogan 28:01 His head- his head exploded. Exploded.

Guest 28:02 And she's like, "Oh, it's over."

Joe Rogan 28:03 Now, is this an AI enhancement of this, Jamie?

Shane Gillis 28:06 It says it's a super slow-mo unsharpened version.

Joe Rogan 28:08 Yo, well how come nobody's thrown the Zapruder film into AI to clean this shit up?

Shane Gillis 28:13 Yeah, good point.

Joe Rogan 28:15 Bro, that is-

Guest 28:15 That's pretty clean.

Joe Rogan 28:16 ... the wildest video.

Guest 28:17 Wow.

Shane Gillis 28:17 Can we see that again? Just- just the head-

Guest 28:19 He got- definitely got hit again.

Shane Gillis 28:19 ... head blow.

Guest 28:21 Head blow is tough to- You're right, he's probably already dead. He got hit through the neck with a bullet.

Joe Rogan 28:24 He's already dead. He's dead.

Guest 28:26 He just hasn't died yet.

Shane Gillis 28:28 Wait a minute. Oh!

Joe Rogan 28:31 Oh!

Shane Gillis 28:31 She's lucky she didn't get in the way 'cause she was hugging him.

Joe Rogan 28:32 Jamie, slow that- slow that down again. Play that shit again.

Guest 28:34 And then she freaks the fuck out.

Joe Rogan 28:36 Let me see it again, Joe.

Shane Gillis 28:37 Holy shit.

Guest 28:37 Who's that guy behind? Who's the guy behind though?

Shane Gillis 28:40 Too bad he got... Everybody-

Joe Rogan 28:41 Everybody's- everybody's freaking out. There's gunshots going off.

Guest 28:43 (laughs) She had something to do with it.

Shane Gillis 28:45 This lady?

Guest 28:45 She had something to do with it.

Shane Gillis 28:46 Oh, yeah.

Guest 28:47 It's odd. She's there with no man.

Joe Rogan 28:48 Now, here's what's interesting.

Guest 28:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:50 Here's what's interesting. The spray goes forward.

Shane Gillis 28:54 Oh.

Joe Rogan 28:54 But the head goes backwards.

Guest 28:55 Yeah, that makes sense though.

Joe Rogan 28:56 The head goes back and to the left, but it doesn't really.

Guest 28:58 It does because you open up a hole and it sprays out as... And then you go back.

Joe Rogan 29:02 Right, but it general- gen- generally doesn't go that way. It goes the other way.

Guest 29:07 What, behind him?

Joe Rogan 29:08 Like, the bullet goes through and then sprays out the back, like-

Guest 29:11 Did the bullet get out b- the back?

Joe Rogan 29:12 It- it could be more than one person hitting him in the head at the same time too.

Guest 29:16 Look at this.

Shane Gillis 29:16 We're starting off heavy, huh? What happened to a hello?

Guest 29:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:20 You know, you have to consider, there's probably multiple gunners in the- the- in the grassy knoll. They're not gonna take a chance. When they're gonna assassinate the president, they're gonna have multiple dudes shooting.

Guest 29:31 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 29:32 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 29:33 That's brain, bro.

Guest 29:34 That's brain.

Joe Rogan 29:34 That's brain.

Shane Gillis 29:35 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 29:36 They said that she climbed... It was crazy, the news report initially said-

Guest 29:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:39 ... that she climbed out to try to retrieve parts of her husband's brain.

Shane Gillis 29:42 Oh.

Joe Rogan 29:43 But that is just not true.

Guest 29:45 Didn't they say she brought it to the hospital?

Joe Rogan 29:47 I don't know, man.

Guest 29:47 I heard that, she had like it in her pocket.

Shane Gillis 29:49 It looked like she fucking climbed out and then reached into the back of her car.

Guest 29:49 She did look like she went and grabbed something and then went back in the car.

Joe Rogan 29:51 She- she maybe did grab a piece in full shock.

Guest 29:53 Apparently she brought it to the doc- to the hospital.

Joe Rogan 29:55 Oh my God.

Guest 29:56 They tried to give it to her now, like-

Joe Rogan 29:57 Glued that back in.

Shane Gillis 29:58 Can you-

Guest 29:58 Hey, put the... Yeah, I don't know.

Joe Rogan 29:59 Imagine if they could do that, just glue your brains back together.

Shane Gillis 30:01 They can do it with teeth.

Guest 30:02 Like a finger. Like a Justin Bieber.

Joe Rogan 30:04 (laughs) Same thing.

Shane Gillis 30:05 (laughs)

Guest 30:06 Can I get teeth?

Shane Gillis 30:08 Teeth are the brain of the mouth.

Joe Rogan 30:09 That's such a- such a wild scene.

Guest 30:10 Hey, if we're doing this, what happened to the Boeing guy?

Joe Rogan 30:13 Oh. ... oh, the Boeing guy realized that he's a piece of shit. (laughs)

Mark Normand 30:15 Let's- tell me what's going on.

Joe Rogan 30:16 We talked about this on stage the other night.

Mark Normand 30:17 Yeah, we did figure that out.

Joe Rogan 30:18 Uh, yeah, we talked about it on stage the other night.

Mark Normand 30:19 What?

Joe Rogan 30:19 The Boeing guy realized, the guy who committed suicide realized that he did a terrible thing by accusing a company of cutting corners. (laughs) And he felt embarrassed-

Mark Normand 30:27 That he shamed this great company-

Joe Rogan 30:29 (laughs) ... that has done so well for all of us. How many times have we flown on a Boeing plane?

Mark Normand 30:33 And killed himself? And he did the right thing.

Joe Rogan 30:34 Boeing planes are amazing.

Mark Normand 30:35 And killed himself.

Joe Rogan 30:36 He knew it.

Mark Normand 30:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 30:36 And he was like, "What have I done?" So he killed himself. But the wheels are falling off, doors are coming off. Planes are fucked right now. That's allegedly-

Mark Normand 30:45 (laughs) Our bed heads are falling off. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:45 (laughs) ... Boeing whistleblower told friend not to believe suicide-

Mark Normand 30:48 That's a believed suicide.

Joe Rogan 30:48 ... before he died. Oh, Christ. Okay. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Mark Normand 30:50 Hey, if somebody says, "I killed myself," that means they didn't kill themselves. Anytime you hear that though, you're like, "Are you about to kill yourself though?"

Joe Rogan 30:56 (laughs) Yeah.

Mark Normand 30:56 (laughs) What an odd thing to say.

Joe Rogan 30:57 Yeah, right? (laughs) Right? It is an odd thing to say. But it's not if you're Julian Assange.

Mark Normand 31:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:01 Mm. Right? If you really think they're gonna whack you.

Mark Normand 31:03 That's what, uh, what's his name said too. McAfee.

Joe Rogan 31:06 Yeah. A lot of those guys said that. Did they?

Mark Normand 31:08 McAfee is a wild boy.

Joe Rogan 31:08 No, no, no, no.

Mark Normand 31:09 I'm saying John McAfee.

Joe Rogan 31:10 John McAfee's a wild boy. (laughs)

Mark Normand 31:11 Pat McAfee's gone.

Joe Rogan 31:12 Yeah.

Mark Normand 31:12 'Cause he guessed, he guessed the chiefs?

Joe Rogan 31:14 John McAfee was one of the only guys- (laughs)

Guest 31:16 At Bernie's bed to his bed.

Joe Rogan 31:16 ... that I just had on the phone.

Mark Normand 31:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:18 I didn't even have him live on the podcast. I had him on the phone.

Mark Normand 31:20 So he can't get in?

Joe Rogan 31:21 We did a podcast with him when he was running from the law- Oh, that guy. ... in his country because someone in... He says they set him up by killing his neighbor. But he was also allegedly online showing people how to cook meth in a forum. That guy is awesome.

Mark Normand 31:36 Oh.

Joe Rogan 31:36 There was a, a account that was linked to him that was like, he had a lab in his backyard. I mean, he is documented. This dude had a fucking full on... He was a genius billionaire-

Mark Normand 31:46 Yeah, he's a beast.

Joe Rogan 31:46 ... with a full on meth lab. He created-

Mark Normand 31:48 Wow.

Joe Rogan 31:48 ... McAfee antiviral software.

Mark Normand 31:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:50 Hell yeah. So he's rich as fuck.

Mark Normand 31:51 He had Deus Ex McAbre.

Joe Rogan 31:52 Where was he? In Belize?

Mark Normand 31:53 (laughs) That was his house.

Joe Rogan 31:54 Was he in Belize? South America. Jimmy, it's a wild story. See if you can find the story of his meth lab.

Mark Normand 31:58 He was in Belize.

Joe Rogan 31:58 This boy was wild.

Mark Normand 31:59 We had him on our podcast.

Joe Rogan 32:00 Did he? Did you really? (laughs)

Mark Normand 32:01 He's the only one to have people shit their way.

Guest 32:02 Me and Matt. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:02 Did you have him live in a room?

Mark Normand 32:04 No, uh, Zoom.

Joe Rogan 32:04 Yeah.

Mark Normand 32:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:05 There he is. Oh. (laughs)

Mark Normand 32:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:06 That's amazing. What a badass. When was this? What year was this?

Mark Normand 32:09 This was during COVID.

Joe Rogan 32:10 Oh. It's like a Jo- it's like a John Goodman character. He's so crazy, dude.

Mark Normand 32:13 He was so funny on this.

Joe Rogan 32:14 He was so crazy. But also, really was in charge of like, antivirus software. He's a real genius.

Mark Normand 32:20 Yeah, and he was on everyone's computer.

Joe Rogan 32:22 And he said, what he said is that he, um-

Mark Normand 32:24 That gives you so much.

Joe Rogan 32:24 ... donated them computers. "Here, have some computers."

Mark Normand 32:27 Sorry, who?

Joe Rogan 32:27 And they have like malware in it, the government. So he gave them like 50 laptops. And they're like, "Okay."

Mark Normand 32:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:32 "Take these." That's what he says.

Mark Normand 32:34 I mean, that's how they do it.

Joe Rogan 32:35 I mean, that's how I would do it-

Mark Normand 32:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:37 ... if I was him.

Mark Normand 32:38 That's how we did it. We sold like, that type of... We sold like spy technology to our, our allies-

Joe Rogan 32:44 That's why Huawei phones-

Mark Normand 32:46 ... that had malware in it that... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:46 Yeah.

Mark Normand 32:46 That's why you can't buy a Huawei phone.

Joe Rogan 32:48 Uh- Huawei phones are like the most sophisticated phones in the world.

Mark Normand 32:51 What was that, what was the, uh, alien movie? That's how they beat them.

Guest 32:54 So he's doing bath salts.

Mark Normand 32:55 At the end.

Joe Rogan 32:56 He was making his various types of bath salts-

Mark Normand 32:58 Mars attacks. No, Independence Day. Independence Day. That's how they beat him.

Joe Rogan 33:00 Please. Malware. Look what he says, "I think it's the finest drug ever conceived," he wrote of one, "singling out the indescribable hypersexuality-" (laughs) Yeah. "... of the super-perv powder-"

Mark Normand 33:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:10 "... but warning that I had visual and auditory hallucinations and the worst paranoia of my life." That guy.

Mark Normand 33:16 Wow.

Joe Rogan 33:17 Beast. Oh.

Guest 33:17 Shit.

Joe Rogan 33:17 That guy had the worst paranoia of his life.

Mark Normand 33:19 Well, Hitler liked it.

Joe Rogan 33:20 Well, he's so clean cut there. But he- He's so different when Matt and Shane got to him. (laughs)

Guest 33:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:25 He's a very wild man.

Mark Normand 33:26 By the time he fell off to me and Matt.

Guest 33:28 (laughs)

Mark Normand 33:28 He was... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:29 So when we had a podcast with him, he was on the run.

Mark Normand 33:32 Wow.

Joe Rogan 33:32 Look at that. What a hunk.

Mark Normand 33:33 Look at this nerd. He made himself a friend.

Guest 33:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:38 (laughs)

Mark Normand 33:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:38 You know what, man? Something I admire about-

Mark Normand 33:40 He doesn't like him. (laughs) He's like, "Nah."

Joe Rogan 33:41 He's frowning. You're a nerd.

Mark Normand 33:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:43 I kind of admire that.

Mark Normand 33:45 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:45 I admire the, the billionaire who goes totally off the rails. He just lived only with prostitutes.

Mark Normand 33:49 He's great.

Joe Rogan 33:50 Had only prostitutes in his-

Mark Normand 33:50 Is he the one that had women shit through a hammock-

Joe Rogan 33:53 Yeah.

Mark Normand 33:53 ... up to his chest?

Joe Rogan 33:53 Yes. Whoa. Is that true? He threw his mouth.

Guest 33:55 (laughs) Yes, we asked him about it.

Mark Normand 33:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:56 All right, now I'm off the team.

Mark Normand 33:57 No, it was great.

Guest 33:58 Wait.

Joe Rogan 33:58 I'm off the team. Tell me about the shitting through the hammock.

Mark Normand 34:00 Apparently, he was having ladies shit through a hammock on him.

Joe Rogan 34:03 (laughs) All right, that explains that.

Mark Normand 34:04 And we asked him about it. And he was like, and he was like, "Do I ask you about your sexual proclivities?" And we're like, "Yeah. You asked us if we were gay right away."

Guest 34:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:14 (laughs)

Mark Normand 34:14 (laughs) And he was like... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:15 Did he tell you the story?

Mark Normand 34:16 He was awesome.

Guest 34:17 (laughs)

Mark Normand 34:17 Now, he was like, "If that makes you uncomfortable, I've done way more." And Matt was like, "From like higher hammocks?"

Guest 34:23 (laughs)

Mark Normand 34:24 So the splat was bigger?

Guest 34:28 (laughs)

Mark Normand 34:28 It was so good, dude.

Joe Rogan 34:30 What a psycho. Don- don't you love the fact that there's a guy like that running around? Of course. That's allegedly.

Mark Normand 34:36 Oh, yeah.

Guest 34:36 Our bed heads are falling off. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:37 That's allegedly. (laughs) "Boeing whistleblower told friend not to believe suicide before he died." Oh, Christ. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Mark Normand 34:37 Hey, if somebody says, "I killed myself, that means I didn't kill myself." Anytime you hear that though, you're like, "Are you about to kill yourself though?"

Joe Rogan 34:39 (laughs) Yeah.

Mark Normand 34:39 What an odd thing to say.

Joe Rogan 34:40 Right. Yeah, right?

Mark Normand 34:47 Okay.

Joe Rogan 34:47 It is an odd thing to say. But it's not if you're Julian Assange.

Mark Normand 34:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:48 Mm. Right? If you really think they're gonna whack you.

Mark Normand 34:48 That's what, uh, what's his name said too. McAfee.

Joe Rogan 34:48 Yeah. A lot of those guys said that.

Mark Normand 34:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:48 Did they?

Mark Normand 34:48 McAfee though. No, I'm saying John McAfee.

Joe Rogan 34:48 No, no, no, no. McAfee's a wild boy.

Mark Normand 34:49 Pat, Pat McAfee is gone.

Joe Rogan 34:49 'Cause he guessed, he guessed the chiefs? John McAfee was one of the only guys-

Mark Normand 34:49 Pre-season.

Joe Rogan 34:49 ... that I just had on the phone.

Mark Normand 34:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:49 I didn't even have him live on the podcast. I had him on the phone.

Mark Normand 34:49 So he can't get in?

Joe Rogan 34:49 We did a podcast with him when he was running from the law-

Mark Normand 34:49 Beast.

Joe Rogan 34:49 ... in his country because someone in... He says they set him up by killing his neighbor. But he was also allegedly online showing people how to cook meth in a forum. That guy is awesome.

Mark Normand 34:49 Oh.

Joe Rogan 34:49 There was a, a account that was linked to him that was like, he had a lab in his backyard. I mean, he is documented. This dude had a fucking full on... He was a genius billionaire-

Mark Normand 34:54 Yeah, he was a beast.

Joe Rogan 34:54 ... with a full on meth lab. He created-

Mark Normand 34:55 Wow.

Joe Rogan 34:55 ... McAfee antiviral software.

Mark Normand 34:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:55 Hell yeah. So he's rich as fuck.

Mark Normand 34:55 He had Deus Ex McAbre.

Joe Rogan 34:55 Where was he? In Belize?

Mark Normand 34:55 That was his house.

Joe Rogan 34:55 Was he in Belize? South America. Jimmy, it's a wild story. See if you can find the story of his meth lab.

Mark Normand 34:55 He was in Belize.

Joe Rogan 34:55 This boy was wild.

Mark Normand 34:55 We had him on our podcast. Did he?

Joe Rogan 34:55 Did he really? (laughs)

Mark Normand 34:55 Isn't he the one that people shit their way?

Joe Rogan 34:55 Did you have him live in a room?

Mark Normand 34:55 No, uh, Zoom.

Joe Rogan 34:55 Yeah.

Mark Normand 34:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:56 There he is. Oh, yeah. That's amazing. What a badass. When was this? What year was this?

Mark Normand 35:04 This was during COVID.

Joe Rogan 35:04 Oh. It's like a Jo- it's like a John Goodman character.

Mark Normand 35:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:04 He's so crazy, dude.

Mark Normand 35:04 He was so funny on this.

Joe Rogan 35:04 He was so crazy. But also, really was in charge of like antivirus software. He's a real genius.

Mark Normand 35:04 Yeah, and he was on everyone's computer.

Joe Rogan 35:04 And he said, what he said is that he, um-

Mark Normand 35:05 That gives you so much.

Joe Rogan 35:05 ... donated them computers. "Here, have some computers."

Mark Normand 35:07 Sorry, who?

Joe Rogan 35:07 And they have like malware in it, the government. So he gave them like 50 laptops.

Mark Normand 35:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:07 And they're like, "Okay."

Mark Normand 35:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:07 "Take these." That's what he says.

Mark Normand 35:07 I mean, that's how they do it.

Joe Rogan 35:07 I mean, that's how I would do it.

Mark Normand 35:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:07 If I was him.

Mark Normand 35:07 That's how we did it. We sold like that type of... We sold like spy technology to uh, our allies-

Joe Rogan 35:10 That's why Huawei phones-

Mark Normand 35:10 ... that had malware in it that... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:14 Yeah.

Mark Normand 35:14 That's why you can't buy that uh-

Joe Rogan 35:16 That's why you can't buy a Huawei phone. Uh- Huawei phones are like the most sophisticated phones in the world.

Mark Normand 35:16 What was that, what was the, uh, Alien movie? That's how they beat them.

Guest 35:16 So he's doing bath salts.

Mark Normand 35:16 At the end.

Joe Rogan 35:16 He was making his various types of bath salts.

Mark Normand 35:16 Mars attacks. No. Independence Day. Independence Day. That's how they beat him.

Joe Rogan 35:16 Look at this. Look what he says, "I think it's the finest drug ever conceived," he wrote one, singling out, "the indescribable hypersexuality-" (laughs) ... "of the super-perv powder. But warning that I had visual and auditory hallucinations and the worst paranoia of my life." That guy.

Mark Normand 35:40 Wow.

Joe Rogan 35:40 Beast. That guy had the worst paranoia of his life. Well, Hitler liked it.

Mark Normand 35:43 Wow, he's so clean cut there.

Joe Rogan 35:45 But he's-

Mark Normand 35:45 He was so different when Matt and Shane got to him. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:47 (laughs)

Guest 35:50 He was looking good.

Mark Normand 35:52 He was very wild by the time he fell off to me and Matt. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:53 (laughs) So when we had a podcast with him, he was on the run.

Mark Normand 35:56 Wow.

Joe Rogan 35:56 Look at that. What a hunk.

Mark Normand 35:57 Look at this nerd. He made himself a friend.

Joe Rogan 35:58 (laughs)

Guest 35:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:59 (laughs)

Mark Normand 35:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:59 You know what, man? Something I admire about-

Mark Normand 36:06 He doesn't like him.

Joe Rogan 36:07 (laughs)

Mark Normand 36:07 He's like, "Nah. You're a nerd." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:10 I kind of admire that.

Mark Normand 36:10 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:10 I admire the, the billionaire who goes totally off the rails. He just lived only with prostitutes.

Mark Normand 36:13 It's great.

Joe Rogan 36:16 Had only... yeah, it's a, it's a weird one, huh? That guy's a interesting fucking character. He would be a great movie.

Guest 36:24 Yeah.

36:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:26 Yeah.

Guest 36:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:26 Yeah. (laughs) In the movie, have him kill his neighbor too.

Guest 36:28 Definitely.

Joe Rogan 36:28 Fuck yeah. 100%.

Guest 36:29 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get to decide. It's your movie.

Joe Rogan 36:30 Let's- let's kill the neighbor.

Guest 36:32 Yeah.

36:32 And you gotta get the hammock too.

36:33 I feel like-

36:34 I'm sure the neighbor sucked. I hate that. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:34 The neighbor probably sucked.

Guest 36:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:36 The neighbors-

Guest 36:36 Yeah, they just killed him 'cause they were awesome, 'cause they only mowed the grass in the afternoons.

36:39 Like, "Hey, could you keep it down?"

Joe Rogan 36:39 Didn't the neighbor do something to his dog too?

Guest 36:41 That's what I heard.

36:42 What?

Joe Rogan 36:42 Yeah, the neighbor did something to his dog. Maybe kill one of those dogs.

Guest 36:45 I heard that. I heard that.

36:45 That's over the line.

36:46 Sure, I heard that.

Joe Rogan 36:46 That's what I'm saying, that you gotta go full John Wick.

Guest 36:47 It was cool when John Wick did it.

Joe Rogan 36:48 Yeah, that's how you do it.

Guest 36:49 Yeah.

36:49 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 36:50 Kill my dog?

Guest 36:51 Imagine hurting Carl.

Joe Rogan 36:52 Yeah. "I would never shoot my neighbor."

Guest 36:55 Yeah.

36:56 (laughs)

36:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:56 (laughs)

Guest 36:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:56 What you say? (laughs)

Guest 36:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:59 Just fucking jacked out.

Guest 37:00 Think of him doing meth and being like, "They killed my dog."

37:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:01 Not just meth, but meth...

Guest 37:03 Oh.

37:03 That was right here.

37:03 It's a good thing I have armed guards.

Joe Rogan 37:05 "They killed my dog."

Guest 37:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:06 Meth he engineered in a fucking lab he built on his property...

Guest 37:10 Breaking Bad.

Joe Rogan 37:10 ... that he documented online.

Guest 37:11 Yes.

Joe Rogan 37:11 He wanted the community to know about this meth lab.

Guest 37:16 (laughs)

37:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:16 He wanted them to know about how- how proficient his meth lab was, how fucking really, like, scientifically accurate everything... He was measuring everything perfectly, you know, beakers and all this shit. He documented it all.

Guest 37:27 That's awesome.

37:28 Damn.

37:28 Wow.

Joe Rogan 37:28 A fucking meth lab in Belize.

Guest 37:31 (laughs)

37:31 He's not there, but he was.

Joe Rogan 37:31 And they call it bath salts all day, but what it is is just, that's just engineered meth. That's what bath salts was, was they took bath salts-

Guest 37:38 What's the other meth? Non-engineered?

Joe Rogan 37:39 It's just different. It's like, so there's diff- like, there's l- there's different things that you can do to a compound, so it's not exactly the same compound.

Guest 37:46 He made his own meth.

37:47 (laughs)

37:47 That's fucking nuts.

Joe Rogan 37:47 Like, 5-methoxy dimethyltryptamine was legal for a while because it wasn't technically dimethyltryptamine. It's even stronger than... So they add a- an oxygen molecule to it.

Guest 37:58 So, like, this is better than meth?

Joe Rogan 37:59 It's, if you can engineer meth, if you're a super genius who makes fucking software that-

Guest 38:04 I have to do it.

Joe Rogan 38:04 ... can stop viruses, I bet you can figure out how to make some killer meth.

Guest 38:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:09 And this dude cooked up some fine shit apparently.

Guest 38:12 Damn.

Joe Rogan 38:13 Yeah.

Guest 38:13 Makes you wanna try it.

38:14 I'd give it a shot. (laughs)

38:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:15 It does make you want to try it.

Guest 38:16 Yeah, right.

38:16 Yeah, that seems like the best way to get into meth is trying meth.

Joe Rogan 38:18 The thing is, I have a feeling you never want to go back to normal.

Guest 38:22 Mm.

38:22 Mm.

38:23 Yeah, it's like flying first class.

Joe Rogan 38:24 That was one of the things that lady said.

Guest 38:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:26 The lady in the FTX.

Guest 38:28 What?

Joe Rogan 38:28 The lady in the FTX trial. She was talking about how being on amphetamines all the time makes you realize how normal, sober interaction, how fucking boring they are.

Guest 38:38 Oh.

Joe Rogan 38:38 And she, like, tweeted it. (laughs)

Guest 38:40 (laughs)

38:40 I would take, I would take Adderall at work when I was... It was great.

Joe Rogan 38:43 Whoo.

Guest 38:44 It's fun.

38:44 Taking Adderall. I was working, like, customers... I was front desk talking to people.

38:49 18 and forward?

Joe Rogan 38:49 What is this?

Guest 38:49 I was like, "Hey, how..." Like, I was ni- I was nice.

38:50 Whacked.

38:51 So he got...

38:52 Whacked.

38:52 He got a...

38:53 That's dollar sign whacked.

38:55 So he got whacked for money? Is that what it means?

38:56 No, he's saying, this is when he said like, "Just in case if I suicide myself, I didn't."

39:01 Oh, if I suicide. Okay.

39:01 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 39:01 Okay.

Guest 39:01 We're going to...

Joe Rogan 39:02 "Getting subtle messages from US officials saying, in effect, 'We're coming for you, McAfee.' "

Guest 39:08 He got Epstein'd.

Joe Rogan 39:08 "We're going to kill y- you, we- we're going to kill yourself." Okay.

Guest 39:12 That's a good way to say it.

Joe Rogan 39:13 Yeah, that's an interesting way to say it. "I got a tattoo today just in case if I suicide myself, I didn't, I was whacked. Check my right arm." So what happened to him though? Was it a suicide or was it something else?

Guest 39:24 I think he was in, was he in Spanish prison?

39:26 He was in prison. He was just about to be extradited when he was found supposedly hanging.

39:32 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 39:32 What?

Guest 39:32 Epstein.

39:33 His wife claimed that shouldn't have happened, but, uh, when looked into it, the Spanish authorities said suicide.

Joe Rogan 39:41 Of course they did.

Guest 39:41 Of course, that's what they were paid to say.

Joe Rogan 39:43 That's what the money says, suicide.

Guest 39:45 Also, so you're getting a tattoo saying, "Hey, if- if it comes out that I'm dead, it- it's because somebody, like, killed me." And instead you got an artful schwacked? (laughs) Like... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:53 Yeah. It looks nice.

Guest 39:54 Schwacked is nice, dude. Don't talk shit.

39:56 You could just do it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:56 It's kind of nice.

Guest 39:57 Schwack.

39:58 It's a good tattoo.

Joe Rogan 39:58 In case I don't get hit.

Guest 39:58 You want a schwack tattoo, bro? I do want that schwack later. (laughs)

40:00 All right. Schwack it off.

40:01 (laughs)

40:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:01 But- but let's- let's look at this logically. Why would the government kill him?

Guest 40:05 That's what I don't get.

40:06 Why don't we have schwack tattoos?

40:07 Let the guy have fun.

Joe Rogan 40:07 But- but it, what did he do?

Guest 40:07 He knew too much about...

Joe Rogan 40:08 What did he do?

Guest 40:09 All the, all the malware, all the stuff that...

40:11 Did the malware to the...

Joe Rogan 40:11 Yeah.

Guest 40:12 Come on, man. Come on, man. NSA, Mossad, they all got the... (laughs)

40:14 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 40:14 So what do you think it is? You think he found some stuff out when he was, like, looking through the computers?

Guest 40:17 I think he was, like, one of the architects of that type of thing.

40:20 Oh.

40:20 I think he probably fucked with them and they were like, "Don't fuck with us. Why'd you give us malware? Now we're gonna fuck with you."

40:23 Yeah, he's like, "I'm gonna tell everybody."

Joe Rogan 40:25 Right.

Guest 40:25 And he's on meth. He's going, "I'm gonna tell everybody that you..."

40:28 Oh, he's talking shit on-

40:29 We're spying on our own allies.

40:30 They spy on their own allies.

Joe Rogan 40:30 Yeah.

Guest 40:30 They like to talk on meth.

Joe Rogan 40:32 And if he really did have all their stuff, that is a crime. Like, if he really did install malware...

Guest 40:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:36 ... and get top secret shit, they'll- they'll kill you for that.

Guest 40:39 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:40 They might not even bother taking you to court.

Guest 40:41 "Soon after the Ben- joining the Ben- MGMT, McAfee said he and his team exploited a flaw in the Android operating system that allowed him to read encrypted messages from WhatsApp." (gasps) Whoa.

40:51 Oh, he could read messages.

40:52 "His motor investigated, reportedly he had sent reporters malware-infected phones to make this hack work."

40:59 Whoa.

41:01 Wow.

41:01 You can't ruin his reputation either.

41:02 "Of course the mal- the phones had malware on them," he said. "H- how that malware got there is the story, which we will release after speaking with Google."

41:10 Good for you, taking the-

Joe Rogan 41:11 "It involves a serious flaw in the Android architecture."

Guest 41:14 ... taking the lead on reading. (laughs)

41:14 (laughs) That's a crazy move.

41:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:15 Look at this. "It involves a serious flaw-"

Guest 41:18 Psychotic. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:19 "... in the Android a- architecture." What is that flaw?

Guest 41:22 (laughs) I just wanted to make the MGMT joke. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:25 (laughs)

Guest 41:25 (laughs)

41:26 MGMT?

41:26 Yeah. They're back.

41:26 Go back to that, Jimmy?

41:27 They're back.

41:28 Go back to that?

Joe Rogan 41:29 It says, uh, "McAfee moved MGT to mining of Bitcoin-"

Guest 41:33 Crypto.

Joe Rogan 41:33 "... and other cryptocurrencies." Oh, he's a criminal.

Guest 41:35 (laughs)

41:36 (laughs)

41:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:37 (laughs)

Guest 41:37 Yeah, he rules.

41:38 It was like when Suge Knight said he, uh, he stuck, uh, Eazy-E on Kimmel.

41:42 Oh, yeah. Getting made.

Joe Rogan 41:43 What'd he say? Oh, yeah.

Guest 41:43 He's, pretty much he was like, "You know, there's lots of ways to kill somebody. You might just, like, hire someone to stick them with a needle with fucking AIDS. You know what I'm talking about?" And everyone in the audience is like, "What, though?"

41:52 He did that on Jimmy Kimmel?

41:53 Yeah.

41:53 Yeah. Jimmy Kimmel's wearing a flak jacket.

41:55 Bro, how wild is it that-

41:55 It was cool Kimmel?

41:56 ... Jimmy Kimmel had Suge Knight on.

41:58 It was cool Kimmel.

41:59 Right? That was fun.

41:59 It was back then.

42:00 You can get canceled today for having Chris D'Elia on your podcast.

Joe Rogan 42:02 (laughs)

Guest 42:03 (laughs)

42:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:05 I mean, could you fucking imagine?

Guest 42:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:07 He bringing Suge Knight on?

Guest 42:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:09 The dude hung Vanilla Ice off a balcony.

Guest 42:13 Was it Vanilla Ice?

42:14 Yeah.

42:14 Oh.

42:14 He just ran over a guy.

Joe Rogan 42:15 By his ankles. Ran over a guy and killed him on video.

Guest 42:18 Jeff Ross, frightened. (laughs)

42:20 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 42:20 Look at him, terrified.... terrified.

Guest 42:23 Oh, this is back then.

Joe Rogan 42:25 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 42:25 Kimmel had no one back then. This was a get.

Guest 42:28 Yeah. He's pretty much saying I, I fucking-

Joe Rogan 42:30 It's a wild-

Guest 42:31 ... Eazy-E with AIDS. That's why it progressed so fast.

Joe Rogan 42:33 That's a wild conversation.

Shane Gillis 42:34 Suge Knight looks like Kimmel as Carl Malone. (laughs)

Guest 42:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:39 Oh my God, he does.

Guest 42:40 He does.

Joe Rogan 42:40 Oh my God, he does. You nailed it. Oh my God, he does.

Shane Gillis 42:44 Is that Leguizamo?

Joe Rogan 42:46 Is it?

Guest 42:47 Yeah. Yeah.

42:48 Imagine Leguizamo as the first guest before Suge Knight. Who gives a fuck about some actor, Leguizamo?

Shane Gillis 42:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:54 Leguizamo rules this shit.

Guest 42:56 Shut up.

Shane Gillis 42:56 He was in Super Mario Brothers.

Joe Rogan 42:57 Leguizamo rules.

Guest 42:57 What is that, another movie, Friends?

Joe Rogan 42:59 Leguizamo was in John Wick, you piece of shit.

Guest 43:02 Leguizamo rules, dude.

Joe Rogan 43:03 How dare you?

Guest 43:04 I take it back, I take it back.

Joe Rogan 43:05 I named my cat after him.

Guest 43:06 (laughing)

Joe Rogan 43:06 How dare you?

Guest 43:07 I lost touch after the second one man show.

Joe Rogan 43:08 I named my cat after him.

Guest 43:08 (laughing)

43:08 They shoot you with it.

43:10 Oh, so that seems bad. Yeah.

43:12 So that's a slow death.

Shane Gillis 43:13 Feet up.

Guest 43:13 So they got this new thing out, that people sell 'em all the time. They got this stuff they call ... They get blood from somebody with AIDS-

43:19 Yep.

43:19 ... and then they shoot you with it.

43:20 Oh.

43:21 So that seems bad.

43:22 Yeah.

43:22 That's a slow death.

43:23 Yeah. Yeah.

43:24 (laughs) An Eazy-E thing, you know what I mean?

43:25 Yeah. Damn.

43:28 (laughs) Way of lighting the mood.

43:30 Wow. Well-

Joe Rogan 43:32 While he takes a puff of a cigar-

Shane Gillis 43:34 Geez.

Joe Rogan 43:34 ... with his boots up.

Shane Gillis 43:35 We got a murderer.

Guest 43:36 Look, look, it's ... And then it's, he pulls up the Homeland Security system. We've talked ... I don't know why that comes up now.

43:39 Homeless security, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:40 Oh, remember those days?

Shane Gillis 43:41 Yeah, it's just-

Joe Rogan 43:41 When there was a, like a number-

Guest 43:43 Or a color rather. It's yellow.

Joe Rogan 43:45 Today it's yellow.

Guest 43:45 How about as your wrist is going out. (exhales)

Joe Rogan 43:46 Let's go to the store, it's yellow. Let's go do standup. We're gonna stay home if it's orange.

Guest 43:50 What a great-

Shane Gillis 43:51 If it's fucking orange, I'm not going anywhere.

Joe Rogan 43:52 Bro, orange.

Guest 43:52 What a great way to make everyone stay home on a day they needed 'em to.

Joe Rogan 43:55 Well, what a great way to test how you can freak people out.

Guest 43:58 Reds today. Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 43:58 How quickly we forgot about those colors.

Shane Gillis 44:00 Yeah.

Guest 44:00 Forgot about that.

Joe Rogan 44:00 That was a weird one, the color system for terrorism after 9/11.

Shane Gillis 44:05 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:05 They tried it. They tried it, and we were like, "Come on with the fucking-"

Shane Gillis 44:09 Yeah.

Guest 44:09 Did you, did you ever get the email saying, "Avoid the mall on October 21st-"

Shane Gillis 44:11 No.

Guest 44:11 "... and whatever date, there's going to be an attack on a mall." You've heard.

Shane Gillis 44:14 That's just the Jewish emails.

Joe Rogan 44:16 Bitch.

Guest 44:16 (laughs) People are just sending us our contact-

44:17 You fuckers, you guys got secret emails?

Joe Rogan 44:19 Put it on that list, Ari.

Shane Gillis 44:20 That's why you're tunneling.

Guest 44:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:21 Get out of the mall.

Guest 44:22 How about a little heads up? You never got those in the ... Like, the couple years after? Like, we got ... There's intel it's gonna be on this day in a mall or on this day in a fucking airport.

Shane Gillis 44:29 No. I got an Amber Alert today. Did you guys get that one?

Guest 44:31 Texas.

Joe Rogan 44:31 Yeah, we get 'em all the time.

Guest 44:32 Texas goes wild with Amber Alerts.

44:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:34 Yeah. You know what I don't miss about California?

Guest 44:35 It's a really depressing way to start.

Joe Rogan 44:37 The forest fires.

Guest 44:38 Oh, yeah. The sudden fires.

Joe Rogan 44:40 The fires were crazy in California.

Shane Gillis 44:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:42 You ain't never seen anything like it.

Shane Gillis 44:44 They're here now.

Joe Rogan 44:45 Yeah, bullshit fires.

Shane Gillis 44:46 Because they took everything.

Joe Rogan 44:47 Listen, they, they're, they're bad, but not ... They're not bad like it is in LA because it doesn't rain there.

Shane Gillis 44:52 Right.

Joe Rogan 44:53 So everything ... Like, you know they have those things, like the colors for fires?

Guest 44:56 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:56 It was the fire warning. It was always red.

Guest 44:58 It was always red.

Joe Rogan 44:59 It was always red. It's not red for, like, three months out of the year.

Guest 45:02 Like, do not smoke a cigarette on Laurel Canyon.

Joe Rogan 45:03 If you're an asshole-

Guest 45:04 That's like, do not. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:05 These fucking assholes that throw cigarettes out the window when they're done with them, these littering cocksuckers.

Guest 45:10 Yeah, if you listen-

45:10 You're not even allowed to smoke in your car with the windows up on the way up Laurel Canyon.

Joe Rogan 45:13 You're not?

Guest 45:13 Yeah, when it's, like, dry.

Joe Rogan 45:14 It's that bad?

Guest 45:15 They're like, "Don't."

Joe Rogan 45:16 Because the ... It just goes up in a blaze. So I was coming home one night. I, I got evacuated three times when I lived in California.

Guest 45:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:23 Three fucking times. But I was coming home one night and the whole side of the highway, I was coming from, home from Fear Factor. The whole side of the highway for an hour was on fire.

Guest 45:33 You sent us pictures.

Shane Gillis 45:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:34 For an hour.

Guest 45:34 From your flip phone.

Joe Rogan 45:35 Bro, it was mad.

Guest 45:35 It was just, like, one side of the highway fire.

Shane Gillis 45:38 That's gotta be scary.

Guest 45:38 One side green.

Joe Rogan 45:38 It was madness.

Guest 45:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:40 It was like, it was like a scene from the fucking ... That's what it's like, that's what it's like.

Shane Gillis 45:45 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 45:45 It was like a scene from fucking a Hobbit movie.

Shane Gillis 45:48 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 45:48 With, like, orcs taking over the top.

Guest 45:48 Do you think all those cars were like, "Hey, where are we even going? Why are we driving that way?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:52 Lord of the Rings.

Guest 45:53 Apocalyptic.

Joe Rogan 45:54 Dude, this was not nearly as bad as-

Guest 45:56 This is the 405.

Joe Rogan 45:57 ... this is the 405.

Shane Gillis 45:57 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 45:58 This is heading to Santa Monica.

Guest 45:59 Ooh.

Joe Rogan 45:59 But this is, this is much more contained than what I saw.

Shane Gillis 46:02 Wow.

Guest 46:02 What the fuck?

Joe Rogan 46:02 What I saw was an hour of driving, a full hour going, like, 40 miles an hour.

Guest 46:07 Was it hot?

Joe Rogan 46:08 50 miles an hour. Oh.

Guest 46:09 Were you hot?

Joe Rogan 46:10 No, but it was raining ashes-

Shane Gillis 46:12 Wow.

Joe Rogan 46:12 ... like snow. So you were, you were seeing ashes fall out of the sky-

Guest 46:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:17 ... like snow.

Guest 46:17 I need a shower.

Joe Rogan 46:17 The whole right side of the highway. And dude, sometimes that shit jumps.

Guest 46:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:22 You get a crosswind, it jumps. It hits a car, it hits other cars. There was, in northern California, a whole highway full of stopped cars. Everybody died.

Shane Gillis 46:31 Yikes.

Guest 46:32 Damn.

Joe Rogan 46:32 Everybody got consumed by fire.

Shane Gillis 46:34 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 46:34 Look at this shit, dude.

Guest 46:35 What are they doing? Where you going?

Shane Gillis 46:37 This is like Maui.

Joe Rogan 46:37 These people are praying.

Guest 46:38 They're trying to get safe, yeah.

Shane Gillis 46:39 Donald Trump, please help us. Please save us.

Joe Rogan 46:40 Jesus Christ. And you don't know where the fire is. You're just guessing. It's not like fire Google.

Guest 46:44 You might be going right to it.

Joe Rogan 46:45 Well, you still gotta get home.

Guest 46:46 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 46:47 You might be, you don't know. You don't know where you're driving, you can't see. This is a windy road.

Shane Gillis 46:50 This is some poor Uber Eats driver.

Joe Rogan 46:52 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 46:52 He's like, "I'm gonna get there."

Guest 46:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:53 Bro, this is so nuts, man. This is so nuts.

Shane Gillis 46:58 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 46:59 So this is what I don't miss, and I know they have fires out here, but bro, you ain't never seen fires like those dry climate, high grasses. And the worst is when it rains a lot early in the year, 'cause then you get extra grass.

Guest 47:12 Ah, dries it up.

Joe Rogan 47:13 And then it always dies off when it stops raining, everything turns brown. Like, ooh.

Shane Gillis 47:18 But it's natural fires, right? Like it's supposed to happen?

Guest 47:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:21 Well, some of them happen from a-

Guest 47:22 We saw this time, like, somebody lit off one behind Pink Dot, behind my old, uh, window. You saw it start just there. It's like a straight uphill with like-

47:27 Oh.

47:28 And just, it just gone.

Joe Rogan 47:29 Gone.

Shane Gillis 47:30 Hmm.

Guest 47:30 Within like 20 minutes, it goes from, like, a little, like, one bush on fire (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:34 Yeah, burns through the houses.

Shane Gillis 47:35 Yikes.

Joe Rogan 47:36 Remember, there was some one time in, in LA when we were at the store and, um, above Pink Dot was on fire.

Guest 47:41 That was it.

Joe Rogan 47:42 And yeah ... That, was that when?

Guest 47:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:44 Was I watching that with you?

Guest 47:44 That was behind my house.

Joe Rogan 47:46 But was that with the one w- where we were, like, seeing the helicopters fly overhead? They were trying to dump water on it.

Guest 47:50 Oh.

Joe Rogan 47:50 Planes were dumping water on it.

Guest 47:52 Oh.

Joe Rogan 47:52 It was nuts.

Shane Gillis 47:53 Herpy.

Joe Rogan 47:53 It was like a war was going on right above the sign.

Guest 47:57 It was ... I saw, I was driving-

47:58 It went right up that hill.

47:59 Yeah. I was in Salt Lake. I was driving to Stanhope's down in Bisbee. There was like ... It was crazy. I was driving, you could watch the helicopters picking up the water out of the lake.

Joe Rogan 48:09 No. Yeah.

Guest 48:10 And flying over the highway and dropping it on the mountain-

Joe Rogan 48:12 What?

Guest 48:12 ... that was on fire.

Joe Rogan 48:13 Whoa.

Guest 48:14 Ooh.

48:14 Then I got to the fucking Grand Canyon, and it had just burned for, for real, like, two hours straight. It was just the moon. Like, there was no vegetation. It was just stumps.

Mark Normand 48:25 ... everything was black. It was crazy.

Guest 48:27 Wow.

Joe Rogan 48:27 Yikes.

Mark Normand 48:28 It was crazy. Those forest fires are wild.

Joe Rogan 48:30 That's also a wake-up call to how vulnerable we-

Guest 48:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:33 ... we really are. That was the one time where people in LA were cool. (laughs) Like everybody-

Guest 48:38 (laughs)

Mark Normand 48:39 (laughs) After the fires, they were like, "Hi." (laughs) "Good to see you."

Guest 48:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:43 "Happy to be alive."

Mark Normand 48:44 Did you remember in New York when fucking Canada caught on fire? That's how-

Guest 48:47 Yes.

Joe Rogan 48:47 Hey.

Mark Normand 48:47 ... crazy those- How misty the air goes on.

Joe Rogan 48:49 Hey, you know, you know the conspiracy theory about that?

Mark Normand 48:50 They popped up pretty quickly, so-

Guest 48:52 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:52 Actually just saying, I don't know.

Guest 48:53 Whole Manhattan was full of ash and dark smoke.

Joe Rogan 48:55 The conspiracy is the color of the smoke.

Mark Normand 48:58 It was wild.

Joe Rogan 48:59 The color of the smoke was strange.

Mark Normand 49:01 Reddish.

Joe Rogan 49:01 And it coincided with, uh, uh, there was a shipment that was lost. The shipment that was lost somewhere was some kind of chemical, and this chemical, it was a l- it was a toxic chemical, and there was a high volume of it, and it was lost. And then all of a sudden these fires break out in Canada, and this fucking orange smoke is making its way across New York. Weird smoke, like a weird color smoke. Now that could be-

Mark Normand 49:28 Uh, it was weird.

Joe Rogan 49:28 ... I'm a moron, that could be the sun, the way it goes through the rye.

Guest 49:31 (laughs) Could be the fucking sun.

Joe Rogan 49:32 But I've never seen orange smoke before.

Mark Normand 49:35 It was orange.

Joe Rogan 49:36 Nor-

Mark Normand 49:36 I was in Montauk, it looked weird.

Joe Rogan 49:37 Nor has anybody that I know ever seen, like, that kind orange smoke.

Mark Normand 49:40 They told everybody to change every filter in your car.

Guest 49:43 Whoa.

Mark Normand 49:44 There was, like, emails, texts.

Joe Rogan 49:45 Did anybody do, like, an analysis of the smoke and go, "What the fuck is this?"

Guest 49:48 No.

Joe Rogan 49:49 "Is it just smoke-"

Mark Normand 49:50 No, we were just drunk.

Joe Rogan 49:50 "... or did something burn somewhere that was toxic?"

Guest 49:53 Never done a smoke analysis.

Mark Normand 49:54 I was doing shows. (laughs)

Guest 49:55 (laughs)

Mark Normand 49:55 There was our shows.

Joe Rogan 49:56 He was doing shows at the Comedy Cellar.

Guest 49:57 You was doing podcasts. You were doing shows in that orange smoke?

Mark Normand 49:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:00 Walking around in that shit?

Mark Normand 50:00 I didn't know. I woke up late that day.

Guest 50:02 It was only been happening-

Joe Rogan 50:03 Could you tell on the ground?

Mark Normand 50:05 Uh, the first day I was like, w- am I fucking this hungover?

Guest 50:09 Yeah. (laughs)

Mark Normand 50:09 That it's, like-

Guest 50:09 One day it was cloudy.

Mark Normand 50:10 Everything's hazy?

Guest 50:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:12 Right. But did it look orange?

Mark Normand 50:14 Not until, like, day two or three.

Guest 50:16 Oh, yeah. At night it did.

Mark Normand 50:16 Day two or three?

Joe Rogan 50:17 Yeah, at first-

Mark Normand 50:18 It changed every day, right?

Joe Rogan 50:18 You could see it coming. It was crazy. Like at first it was just slightly smoggy. We were like... I don't know. I remember driving in being like, "This is fucking weird. Am I dumb?" (laughs)

Mark Normand 50:28 Because no one's mentioning anything.

Guest 50:29 (laughs)

Mark Normand 50:29 And I was like, "It's fucking weird out, right?"

Guest 50:31 Yeah.

Mark Normand 50:32 And then by the, yeah, by the, the most, like the height of it, it was fucking insane. It was just orange.

Guest 50:38 It was like Ghostbusters.

Mark Normand 50:39 All day. It was scary.

Joe Rogan 50:39 Come on. That seems weird.

Mark Normand 50:41 It was scary.

Guest 50:41 It was weird.

Joe Rogan 50:42 Isn't that weird?

Mark Normand 50:42 Yep.

Joe Rogan 50:42 Look at the color.

Mark Normand 50:43 Yep. 2:00 PM.

Guest 50:44 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 50:45 Look at the color.

Mark Normand 50:45 It's 2:00 PM. Look at that. If-

Joe Rogan 50:46 If-

Guest 50:46 Damn it's like Rachel Dolezal.

Mark Normand 50:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:48 I'm not a, I'm one day... I'm not a chemist, ladies and gentlemen. I don't know anything about, um, smog color, but that seems highly unusual.

Mark Normand 50:57 (laughs) It's unusual.

Joe Rogan 50:58 It's super unusual. I'm just gonna say that.

Guest 51:00 It doesn't look so bad.

Mark Normand 51:01 All I'm gonna say is it's gross.

Guest 51:02 Oh, look at that.

Joe Rogan 51:02 There's conspiracy theories that are warranted.

Mark Normand 51:05 Toronto didn't get it nearly as bad as, as New York.

Joe Rogan 51:08 Well, that's because it was coming down towards us.

Mark Normand 51:10 Jamie, can you flip through these faster?

Joe Rogan 51:11 Yeah. Why don't you move quick, you fucking...

Mark Normand 51:12 Jesus. You're about to throw up.

Guest 51:14 Why save it for the 2:00 photo?

Mark Normand 51:14 How about-

Guest 51:15 It was only orange in the one photo.

Joe Rogan 51:16 Only take two of those-

Mark Normand 51:17 Trust me, it was orange for a lot.

Guest 51:18 What did you look at?

Joe Rogan 51:18 ... Neuro Gums.

Mark Normand 51:19 That was just one day.

Joe Rogan 51:20 Don't take three Neuro Gums.

Guest 51:22 (laughs) Oh, yeah.

51:23 You guys can't look, old eyes.

Mark Normand 51:24 (laughs)

Guest 51:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:25 Old eyes. How dare you, young Jamie.

Mark Normand 51:27 Young Jamie, you're being so nasty today man.

Guest 51:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:28 You tried that earlier.

Mark Normand 51:29 I'm sick of it.

Guest 51:30 You've changed.

Joe Rogan 51:30 Jamie, w- why, why are you so hostile today to your boys?

Mark Normand 51:32 Hey, Ari, young Ari, could you hand me a beer, please?

Guest 51:34 There we go.

Mark Normand 51:34 Sure, Shaniel. Sure, (laughs) Fit Shane. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:37 Hey, I've heard about... There's these things, Shane, there's these things called Loosies. You ever heard of a Loosie?

Mark Normand 51:42 Oh, I know about Loosies.

Joe Rogan 51:43 That has 12 milligrams.

Mark Normand 51:44 Loosie Breakers?

Joe Rogan 51:46 They have 12 milligrams. This is six.

Guest 51:48 No, you don't want that.

Joe Rogan 51:49 They have 12.

Guest 51:50 That's too much.

Mark Normand 51:50 Six is too much for people.

Joe Rogan 51:51 Don't say that. When you say that, I want two in my mouth right now.

Guest 51:53 Is that from Tucker?

Mark Normand 51:54 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 51:54 I don't like the way you're talking.

Guest 51:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:55 You can't handle 12.

Mark Normand 51:56 No, this is from the fucking gas station.

Joe Rogan 51:58 Yeah. (laughs)

Guest 51:58 You're 4'2". 12, 12 milligrams will put you on the moon.

Mark Normand 52:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:02 I think it's a weight thing.

Guest 52:04 (laughs)

Mark Normand 52:04 Yeah.

Guest 52:04 All right.

Mark Normand 52:05 (laughs) I don't even think it is.

Joe Rogan 52:06 You're a short, round guy. You can consume a lot of alcohol.

Guest 52:09 That's true.

Mark Normand 52:10 Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, Loosies are good.

Joe Rogan 52:13 But no one consumes alcohol like tall people, tall, big people like Shane.

Mark Normand 52:17 Big people.

Joe Rogan 52:18 My friend Justin, I got a friend Justin call it. This motherfucker can put it down.

Mark Normand 52:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:22 And he makes you keep drinking with him and he's like 350 pounds.

Mark Normand 52:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:25 He's this big giant dude, he's like, "Come on, bro, one more." I'm like, "Okay." (laughs)

Mark Normand 52:28 Line man. (laughs)

Guest 52:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:29 The next, next thing you know you're destroyed.

Mark Normand 52:31 Yeah.

Guest 52:31 Of course.

Joe Rogan 52:32 But he's got, like, twice the body of you.

Mark Normand 52:34 Shane's the king of that. Comes into, like, the Cellar-

Joe Rogan 52:36 Yes.

Mark Normand 52:36 ... and never is like, "No, I'll take it." He's like, "Come on, one."

Guest 52:38 (laughs)

Mark Normand 52:38 "Come on, one."

Joe Rogan 52:38 Yeah, but this guy-

Guest 52:39 One more. (laughs)

Mark Normand 52:40 At 3:00 AM.

Joe Rogan 52:40 This guy's drinking...

Mark Normand 52:40 You know that's your first party of the trip, get him that one, then we're go.

Joe Rogan 52:43 He's drinking a Crown and Cokes though. That's a different animal.

Guest 52:46 Oh, geez.

Mark Normand 52:46 That's dangerous.

Joe Rogan 52:46 That's a different animal.

Mark Normand 52:47 Me and, uh, Derosa went out-

Joe Rogan 52:49 Makers, Makers and Cokes. And the Coke gets right in your bloodstream.

Mark Normand 52:52 ... and it will fuck you up. Me and De- Derosa came down to Austin and we were like, "I'll go... We'll go hang out. We'll have two drinks at every bar." We were just walking around. I was getting two Bud Lights at every bar.

Joe Rogan 52:59 Oh, Jesus Christ.

Mark Normand 52:59 He's drinking whiskey at every bar.

Joe Rogan 53:01 Oh, my God.

Guest 53:02 Yeah.

Mark Normand 53:02 By, like, the fifth bar he was like, "Hey."

Joe Rogan 53:04 (laughs)

Mark Normand 53:04 We were walking to a bar and he was like, "Oh, shit man, are you not fucked up?" I was like, "No, I've been drinking-"

Guest 53:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:10 I know.

Mark Normand 53:10 "... light beers for taking hours."

Joe Rogan 53:12 That's my thing.

Guest 53:12 This is all whiskey.

Mark Normand 53:13 No. You have two drinks every time we do this.

Guest 53:15 You... I'm already on number two.

Mark Normand 53:16 When Derosa's gone.

Guest 53:17 What are you on? Three beers?

Joe Rogan 53:18 Don't count mine. I'll catch you up, brother.

Guest 53:21 I'm counting. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:21 Trust me.

Guest 53:22 I'm autistic, I count.

Joe Rogan 53:22 That was the Stanhope strategy for years.

Mark Normand 53:24 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:24 Stanhope was like, "I just take a slow drip of alcohol through light beer."

Mark Normand 53:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:28 And I was like, "That's genius." He's like, "Yeah, I don't want to get too fucked up."

Guest 53:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:31 It's like it keep-

Mark Normand 53:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:33 ... keep the fucked up going, you get a fucked up-

Guest 53:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:35 ... you get, like, a good buzz. The best way to keep a good buzz is a light beer. Right?

Guest 53:40 Yeah. True.

Joe Rogan 53:40 You just... Because you don't go over the edge. You get totally-

Mark Normand 53:42 When Derosa's done is when he says, "Let's do shots." You're like, "You're fucked up."

Guest 53:45 Oh.

Joe Rogan 53:45 Yeah.

Mark Normand 53:45 "You're about to leave within 10 minutes."

Guest 53:47 Yeah.

Mark Normand 53:47 "You're about to leave."

Guest 53:48 But the Coke brings him back to life.

Joe Rogan 53:49 (laughs)

Mark Normand 53:49 The Coke brings him back.

Guest 53:49 Brings him back to life.

Joe Rogan 53:50 Derosa-

Mark Normand 53:50 Then he starts bringing everybody back to life.

Joe Rogan 53:52 Yeah, Dave. But Derosa brought his sandwiches to the club the other night.

Guest 53:54 They're great.

Mark Normand 53:55 They are great.

Joe Rogan 53:55 Fucking amazing.

Guest 53:56 Very good.

Mark Normand 53:57 I know.

Joe Rogan 53:57 He, uh, he gave me a roast beef with prosciutto, with like...

Mark Normand 54:00 Fat boy?

Joe Rogan 54:01 Like some kind of peppers in there.

Guest 54:02 Okay.

Joe Rogan 54:02 He said it was... I forget whose favorite sandwich it was. Maybe it was Mom's.

Mark Normand 54:05 Whatever.

Guest 54:05 He's a-

Joe Rogan 54:05 It was fucking fantastic.

Mark Normand 54:07 He's a shockingly likable guy.

Joe Rogan 54:08 He's the best.

Guest 54:09 Fun Egyptian.

Joe Rogan 54:11 Nor has anybody that I know ever seen, like that kind of orange smoke. Did anybody do, like, an analysis of the smoke and go, "What the fuck is this?" Or did something burn somewhere that was toxic? Never done a smoke analysis.

Mark Normand 54:34 I was doing shows.

Joe Rogan 54:34 I didn't know. I woke up late. It was on the ground? The first day I was like, am I fucking this hungover that it's like one day it was cloudy, everything's hazy. I didn't know. I woke up late. It was on the ground? The first day I was like, am I fucking this hungover that it's like one day it was cloudy, everything's hazy? Right. But did it look orange? Not until, like day two or three. Day two or three? It changed- First you could see it coming. It was crazy. Like at first it was just slightly smoggy. You were like... I don't know. I remember driving in being like, this is fucking weird. Am I dumb? Because no one's mentioning anything. And I was like, it's fucking weird out, right? I didn't know. I woke up late. It was on the ground? The most, like the height of it, it was fucking insane. It was just orange. All day. It was scary. Come on. That seems weird. It was scary. It was weird. Isn't that weird? Look at the color. Yep. 2PM. Look at the color. 12. Damn, it's like Rachel Dolezal. I'm not a chemist. Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know anything about smog color, but that seems highly unusual. It's super unusual. I'm just going to say that. There's conspiracy theories that are warranted. Toronto didn't get it nearly as bad as New York. Well, it's because it was coming down towards us. Jamie, can you flip through these faster? Yeah, why don't you move quick, you fucking... How about it was only orange in the one photo? Only take two of those. Trust me, it was orange for a lot. Neuro Gums. That was just one day. Oh yeah. You guys can't look. Old eyes. How dare you, young Jamie? Young Jamie, you're being so nasty today. You tried that earlier. Sick of it. Why are you so hostile today to your two boys? Young Ari, could you hand me a beer, please? There we go. Sure, Shaniel. Sure, fit Shane. Hey, I've heard about... There's these things, Shane, there's these things called Loosies. You ever heard of a Loosie? I know about Loosies. That has 12 milligrams. They have 12 milligrams. This is six. No, they have 12. That's too much. Don't say that. When you say that, I want two in my mouth right now. Is that from Tucker? I don't like the way you talk. You can't handle 12. This is from the fucking gas station. You're 4'2". 12 milligrams will put you on the moon. I think it's a weight thing. All right. I don't even think it is. You're a short, round guy. You can consume a lot of alcohol. That's true. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, Loosie's good. But no one consumes alcohol like tall people. Tall, big people like Shane. Big people. My friend Justin, I got a friend Justin, call him. This motherfucker can put it... listen, this is the land of rebuilding.

Guest 54:47 Yeah.

54:47 Yeah.

54:47 That's right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:48 That's what they said after they stole it from the Comanche.

Guest 54:50 (laughs)

54:50 The land of rebuilding. (laughs) But you burned it.

54:53 We gave them a casino.

Joe Rogan 54:54 (laughs) I don't even think they have a casino.

Guest 54:56 No, they don't get a casino.

Joe Rogan 54:57 They don't get shit. (laughs)

Guest 54:58 (laughs)

54:58 They were too fierce.

54:59 They were nasty.

Joe Rogan 55:00 They had to put- they had to fucking-

Guest 55:00 They're gonna need box cutters if they get a casino. They can't trust them.

Joe Rogan 55:02 ... they had to put that fire out.

Guest 55:03 You guys should get something in Germany, like a water park or something.

55:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:07 This is... Have you ever seen this?

Guest 55:08 Is that a Comanche arrowhead?

Joe Rogan 55:09 Yeah, that's legit.

Guest 55:10 Whoa.

55:10 That's awesome.

Joe Rogan 55:11 That's from right here, bro.

Guest 55:12 Is that the blood of the white man on it?

55:14 No, that's why we got it.

Joe Rogan 55:15 It's probably got some deer blood on it.

Guest 55:16 (laughs) Wow, that's cool.

Joe Rogan 55:17 That's probably from before the white man even showed up and fucked everything up.

Guest 55:19 It's so smooth.

55:20 Damn.

Joe Rogan 55:21 I have a friend who has a ranch out here that apparently was where the Comanche lived, and it's just overrun with arrowheads.

Guest 55:27 They carve them down? Is that how you do it?

Joe Rogan 55:28 Well, they make them... It's called flint knapping. They actually put a piece of buckskin over their knee, and they hold this, like slate... Oh, Jesus Christ. That's-

Guest 55:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:37 Don't do that.

Guest 55:38 Ah, you got me.

Joe Rogan 55:39 Bro, that's like literally... It could be 1,000 years old. Like, no one fucking even knows-

Guest 55:43 Oh, right, right, right.

Joe Rogan 55:43 ... how old that thing is.

Guest 55:44 Put a spell on me.

55:45 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:45 It's actually probably about 400 or 500 years old.

Guest 55:49 Wow.

Joe Rogan 55:49 But allegedly. I don't know. This is what someone told me. But the thing is that, like, these fucking guys, man, they made those things by knocking rocks together.

Guest 55:58 What do you mean?

Joe Rogan 55:58 There's like a very specific way. It's called flint knapping. Like, you knock it off to make a flake, and then you have to, like, knock it against, like, something soft, like your leg, and they chip away 'til they make, like, this razor edge to these things.

Guest 56:10 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 56:10 It's like a... They figured out how to do it, and these fucking things are all over this guy's ranch. He sent me a bunch of them. He sent me, like, ones that are, like-

Guest 56:18 That's awesome.

Joe Rogan 56:19 ... marked off by, like, this, this, uh... Like, this is guy-

Guest 56:22 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 56:24 See how he does this?

Guest 56:24 They had all the time in the world.

56:26 Did he heat it up? No.

Joe Rogan 56:27 No, this guy's the guy that, like, knows how to recreate this shit. Um, and they-

Guest 56:32 This guy fucks hard.

Joe Rogan 56:32 ... they get it. (laughs)

Guest 56:33 He does.

56:34 (laughs) You can tell this guy fucks hard.

Joe Rogan 56:36 (laughs)

Guest 56:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:37 Probably with, like, one of those, uh-

Guest 56:39 (imitating electric razor)

Joe Rogan 56:39 ... butcher's aprons on.

Guest 56:41 What the fuck is that guy doing?

Joe Rogan 56:42 With, like, a leather butcher apron on.

Guest 56:44 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:45 This is... These people are a problem, though, because some of these people are... Not this guy, I'm not saying this guy. But some of these people are unethical, and then they go leave these things-

Guest 56:52 So they bury this in... "Oh, look what I found."

56:54 Wow.

56:54 This is appropriation, too.

56:56 It does look pretty real. It looks a lot like that one.

Joe Rogan 56:58 You know what's okay to appropriate?

Guest 57:00 Indians?

Joe Rogan 57:01 White people.

Guest 57:01 Ah.

Joe Rogan 57:02 You see the, uh... (laughs)

Guest 57:05 (laughs)

57:05 That makes sense.

57:06 Here it is. Here it is. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:07 There's a Boston...

Guest 57:09 It's your fourth. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:09 It's like Boston Globe. They had a photo of St. Patrick's Day, and it's a Black dude dressed like a leprechaun. I'm like, "Hey."

Guest 57:15 "Hey."

57:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:16 "What are we doing here?"

Guest 57:17 That's ours.

57:18 What the fucking rah.

Joe Rogan 57:20 Who the fuck is that guy?

Guest 57:21 Who the fuck is that guy? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:24 (laughs) That's how everyone wants to do that accent. You got