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Joe Rogan Experience #2123 - Gary Clark Jr.

Gary Clark Jr. is a Grammy award-winning blues guitarist and singer. Look for his new album, "JPEG RAW," on March 22. www.garyclarkjr.com

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Mar 22, 20242h 45mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 15:00

    (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

    1. NA

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    2. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) So how much of a relief is it to have the album done?

    3. GJ

      Uh, it-

    4. JR

      You've been working on this for a while, huh?

    5. GJ

      Yeah, it would be a relief if I got a chance to chill out. I just-

    6. JR

      Ah.

    7. GJ

      I just kind of m- mixed it, mastered it, mastered it again, and that took a little while. And, uh, I was supposed to go on vacation. I was gonna take a trip and go chill out and, like, think about it, and that took like... That didn't end up happening, so I just turned my phone off for, like, two, three days. And then it was let's go talk about it and break it all down and, you know, so it's, it's a, it's a relief. It's finally done. But it just, it's kinda kept going, so I haven't had a chance to, like, chill on it.

    8. JR

      Those breaks are important, right? Those just vacation breaks, just shut your brain off breaks.

    9. GJ

      Yeah. Yeah, I, I don't... I, yeah, I really, I really wanted that one. (laughs)

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. GJ

      I really, really wanted that.

    12. JR

      Looking forward to those margaritas.

    13. GJ

      I needed it. I just wanted to ch- I just wanted to go be by myself, just camp out in the woods by myself or something.

    14. JR

      Oh, really?

    15. GJ

      Yeah, just be completely solo.

    16. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    17. GJ

      And just chill out, you know. I was, I just made 40. I was just wanted to go chill out and go, "Wow," you know, reflect and be like, "Wow, this first 40's been pretty cool." Like-

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. GJ

      ... "What's gonna happen in the next?" And it was like, boom, New York City, Tonight Show-

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. GJ

      ... Questlove looking at me. I was like, "This is not what the plan was." (laughs)

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. GJ

      At all.

    24. JR

      And sometimes you gotta force the plan. And those-

    25. GJ

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      ... all those other people.

    27. GJ

      Yeah, absolutely.

    28. JR

      You know, you have a lot of people to make happy.

    29. GJ

      Absolutely. But I'm, uh, I'm also excited to do it, you know.

    30. JR

      Mm-hmm.

  2. 15:00 – 30:00

    That's it, yeah. …

    1. GJ

      uh, you know, understanding your own brain. I don't s-... I don't gamble.

    2. JR

      That's it, yeah.

    3. GJ

      I don't play golf-

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. GJ

      ... any of that, 'cause it's over for me.

    6. JR

      Yeah, it-

    7. GJ

      It's already a problem with these stupid cameras. My wife is like, "You're not a fucking f-... What are you doing?"

    8. JR

      (laughs) But yet, you are.

    9. GJ

      Yeah, yeah.

    10. JR

      You are. You are whatever the fuck you wanna be.

    11. GJ

      I'm obsessed.

    12. JR

      Yeah, I don't like people telling you what to do.

    13. GJ

      Hmm.

    14. JR

      That drives me nuts.

    15. GJ

      Mm-hmm.

    16. JR

      When I hear people telling you what to do and telling, about giving you advice on music, just shut the fuck up.

    17. GJ

      Fuck.

    18. JR

      Everybody shut the fuck up, and just market whatever he does.

    19. GJ

      Yeah, it's, yeah, well, yeah, right?

    20. JR

      Just do that.

    21. GJ

      I did it. You, you sell it. But, you know, the thing is, is, uh, that it's, it's, it's not people telling me what to do. It's meetings and suggestions.

    22. JR

      Mm-hmm, right.

    23. GJ

      So, I'm translating it as people telling me what to do.

    24. JR

      That is what it is, though.

    25. GJ

      But they're... Suggestions, right?

    26. JR

      It's as much as they can do.

    27. GJ

      Right.

    28. JR

      As much as they can tell Gary Clark Jr. how to make music, they're gonna give it a shot.

    29. GJ

      Well...

    30. JR

      You know? You know what I'm saying? It's just, it's just-

  3. 30:00 – 45:00

    Not immediately, but pretty…

    1. GJ

      that you were like a winner immediately?

    2. JR

      Not immediately, but pretty quickly.

    3. GJ

      And that was-

    4. JR

      I had an aptitude for it.

    5. GJ

      ... that kind of drew you back in? Okay.

    6. JR

      It just, it was a... I- I understood it.

    7. GJ

      Yep.

    8. JR

      I understood like distance, I understood like how to hit things hard. There was like, and there was the exciting thing about it, like you're mo- uh, there's moving targets, they're moving at you, you're moving at them, like this, like solving this puzzle of- of human reflexes and instincts-

    9. GJ

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    10. JR

      ... and flinching at 'em and fainting 'em-

    11. GJ

      Yeah, yeah.

    12. JR

      ... getting 'em to react, and then gauging what that reaction is gonna be.... different ways to set things up. It's like it's so multi-layered and multifaceted. And when you're young, you're so fast. Like-

    13. GJ

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      ... you can move so quick. It's exciting, and you learn so quick, too.

    15. GJ

      Sure.

    16. JR

      You know?

    17. GJ

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      So it's just you see instantaneous reward, that if you're learning something while your body is growing, it's the best, because your body grows into these movements.

    19. GJ

      Hmm.

    20. JR

      So your body has like a built-in way of doing these things from its... like, literally from the ground up. Once you're a grown man, and you try to teach a grown man, like, kickboxing, that's like, "Oh, okay." You know? (laughs) You're just, like, so accustomed to doing-

    21. GJ

      (laughs)

    22. JR

      ... certain things with your legs.

    23. GJ

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      You got these grown-ass 30-year-old man legs-

    25. GJ

      Yeah, yeah.

    26. JR

      ... and I'm gonna try to teach you how to throw a spinning back kick.

    27. GJ

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      That's like, "Okay." (laughs)

    29. GJ

      Yeah, that's why I haven't signed up yet. (laughs)

    30. JR

      (laughs) It's worth doing it just for fun, though.

  4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

    Was that in Hollywood?…

    1. JR

      with Kevin James. Me and Kevin James went to see Kiss when they came back. We were like, "This is amazing."

    2. GJ

      Was that in Hollywood?

    3. JR

      I think it was. I think it was in LA.

    4. GJ

      That must've been crazy.

    5. JR

      I think we saw 'em in LA. It was incredible. It was incredible.

    6. GJ

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      With the makeup on, all the shit. Fire.

    8. GJ

      Awesome, man. Those guys really turned, uh, rock and roll into like entertainment.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. GJ

      You know what I mean?

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. GJ

      Like, it was every single aspect of the show, from the costumes to the pyro, the timing, the crazy antics, the just... I mean, and then selling it like this big huge thing with the merch-

    13. JR

      Uh-huh.

    14. GJ

      ... and the dolls-

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. GJ

      ... and the crazy shit, it was like... I mean, it was, it was... They, they made it known that Kiss was a fucking thing.

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. GJ

      And they had the fans, I guess, to, to, to push it. But I, that's-

    19. JR

      They had a one-hour-long TV show-

    20. GJ

      Oh, I don't know that.

    21. JR

      ... where it was like a movie, like a made for TV movie. It was Kiss and The Phantom of the Park.

    22. GJ

      (laughs) I don't know nothing about-

    23. JR

      And it was like, this is... And in the middle of it, like three-quarters of the way into the show, the fucking power went out at my house. I was like, "No."

    24. GJ

      (laughs)

    25. JR

      I can't believe this. I can't believe it shut off. It just, the power shut off. I was like, "This is so fucked." This is Kiss and The Phantom of the Park. It was like a real corny made-for-TV movie.

    26. GJ

      How long were you waiting for this stuff?

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. NA

      (laughs)

    29. GJ

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      Well, when you're a Kiss fan, first of all, you had to find out from like the newspaper.

  5. 1:00:00 – 1:11:00

    Oh. …

    1. JR

      'cause they're not artists. Like, the tech people moving here, that ... what they've done to San Francisco. (laughs)

    2. GJ

      Oh.

    3. JR

      Like, those people with that ... those wacky-

    4. GJ

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      ... woke ideas.

    6. GJ

      I'm not even thinking about that, yeah. That's different.

    7. JR

      That scares the shit out of me 'cause there's a lot of them. I mean, look at that giant-ass fucking building that they built. That's a Google building, right, or a Facebook building? Which one is it? Both of them. Which one's the Sail, that cool Sail? The Sail is Google. Google.

    8. GJ

      Oh.

    9. JR

      Th- they put a giant-ass building right on the lake.

    10. GJ

      (sighs) I don't even know if I noticed that.

    11. JR

      It's a giant-ass building right on Cesar Chavez. But then they just fired like 15,000 people, so I think that place is mostly, like, vacant.

    12. GJ

      Uh, uh, w- did, did they just overshoot?

    13. JR

      I think they oversho- ... that's it. That's Sail.

    14. GJ

      Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

    15. JR

      That's a dope building.

    16. GJ

      Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    17. JR

      That's a dope building.

    18. GJ

      Exactly.

    19. JR

      Um, so I think they overshot, and I also think, um, the reality is AI is coming.And there's so many people-

    20. GJ

      Right.

    21. JR

      ... that are working in tech that will not have a job in five years.

    22. GJ

      Right.

    23. JR

      The job will be nonsense. They'll be like, you know, asking a person to make steel beams in his backyard with a fucking, a hammer, and a pot. Like-

    24. GJ

      Right.

    25. JR

      ... no. Why would we do it that way? That's a stupid way to do it.

    26. GJ

      Right.

    27. JR

      We have steel mills, stupid.

    28. GJ

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. GJ

      Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. (laughs)

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