Joe Rogan Experience #2125 - Kurt Metzger

1. 0:00 – 1:25

   Backstage hangs: Attell’s set, recorder flute, and starting mid-puff

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) What's going on, buddy?

   4. KMKurt Metzger0:13

      Good, man.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Good to see you. It's fun to see you last night too.

   6. KMKurt Metzger0:16

      Wait, are we on yet?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Yes.

   8. KMKurt Metzger0:17

      Oh, that's great that we opened up right on (laughs) -

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Right on you puffing? (laughs) Oh. Last night was fun.

   10. KMKurt Metzger0:25

       Oh my God-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       How funny was Attell, dude?

   12. KMKurt Metzger0:27

       I was remembering today that he said that, uh, Deliverance was his Barbie. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       (laughs) He said so many asides like that. There were so many-

   14. KMKurt Metzger0:39

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       ... like, you know, Tony said something really funny, he said, "You, you watch him, you die laughing and then afterwards you can't remember anything he said."

   16. KMKurt Metzger0:47

       No, that's right and then I start to have recall, it's like I got abducted and then the memories come back.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       (laughs)

   18. KMKurt Metzger0:53

       So when I woke up I was laughing 'cause I remembered, he said (laughs) -

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       He said-

   20. KMKurt Metzger0:57

       Well, about, he, he goes, "I need to get a root canal," but I, I couldn't get it 'cause, I couldn't get a root canal 'cause I was in Oklahoma, you know, every life is sacred. (laughs) He goes, "You ever have a back alley root canal?" (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       (laughs) He was just, everything about him was just so silly and so casual, it was very, very... And when he pulls out the recorder and starts playing that little flute thing.

   22. KMKurt Metzger1:18

       Yeah, he learned to do that over the pandemic.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:21

       Ah.

   24. KMKurt Metzger1:21

       He learned to play recorder. (laughs)

2. 1:25 – 2:17

   Flip phones vs smartphones: surveillance, data competition, and sanity

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:25

      The fact that he uses a flip phone for real. I guess he has. You want some coffee?

   2. KMKurt Metzger1:29

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:29

      I guess he has-

   4. KMKurt Metzger1:30

      I guess I should've asked.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:30

      ... a, um, uh, iPhone that he uses for social media when he, i- if he ever needs to post.

   6. KMKurt Metzger1:36

      I always, I always wanna send him shit and I can't 'cause he's, I guess he's taking the calls on the flip phone.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:40

      Yeah. Yeah, he, he prefers to be out with the flip phone-

   8. KMKurt Metzger1:44

      Does he work for Assad?

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:45

      Gi- gi- gi- gi- gi- (laughs)

   10. KMKurt Metzger1:46

       Gi- gi- gi- (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:48

       I think he prefers to be with the flip phone.

   12. KMKurt Metzger1:51

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       But I think he's right. I think he's right. I think if you have a f- a cell phone that's like connected to the internet or smartphone, but you don't use it that often, every now and then you check it, that's probably the way to go.

   14. KMKurt Metzger2:02

       You know, we, of course he's right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:03

       Yeah.

   16. KMKurt Metzger2:03

       Everybody has North Korea in their pocket at all times.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:06

       Yes. Yeah, you really do.

   18. KMKurt Metzger2:08

       Well, I, w-

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:09

       Our government, their government, everybody's government.

   20. KMKurt Metzger2:11

       You better hope it's multiple governments so there's at least some competition for your data and it's not just one monopoly has all your data.

3. 2:17 – 5:02

   Why TikTok is under fire: censorship, Israel/Gaza optics, and youth exposure

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:17

      Right. Have you, how much have you paid attention to the TikTok thing, where they're trying to do this ban on TikTok?

   2. KMKurt Metzger2:22

      Too much because we covered it and, uh, y- uh, it's, it's because (laughs) ... Well, here's what it's b- besides controlling and being able to take shit down whenever they want and doing, which-

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:33

      Which is a real problem.

   4. KMKurt Metzger2:34

      Yeah, we are China by the way. I don't know if people think we're not China, but we are China, and, uh, but now, uh, the real push was coming, uh, because of, uh, Israel, not because of, uh, you know, the, all the Hamas videos or whatever, but Israelis post shit on, TikTok censors people. TikTok's not like a free speech something platform.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:53

      Right.

   6. KMKurt Metzger2:54

      So, the shit Israeli soldiers are posting themselves is getting out. And what happens is the kids are on TikTok and, you know, uh, it, it hasn't been 1944 forever, it's been pretty woke here. So now that's clashing seeing, seeing this shit that, you know, remember when Osama bin Laden made a huge comeback? (laughs) Like about a, I don't know, how many months ago?

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:16

      Oh, right, right, right, look-

   8. KMKurt Metzger3:17

      And people just discovered his letters. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:21

      Open letter to America. Yeah. God, he makes sense.

   10. KMKurt Metzger3:22

       I think he's an industry plant.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:24

       There. So what are these Israeli soldiers, uh, putting up on TikTok?

   12. KMKurt Metzger3:29

       Well, all the, all the war crimes that they do and-

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:31

       No. Really?

   14. KMKurt Metzger3:33

       Look, I would, I wanna make this clear to everyone. I would never listen to an Arab, okay? So I want you to understand that. I would never believe a Muslim about nothing. You don't have to ever do that. Look at, not America what they tell you, Israeli news, Israeli politicians, their ambassadors when they come here and talk, listen to what they say, 'cause that's what I unfortunately did and it was quite disturbing. And what's even more disturbing is when I tell my friends here in America, they go, "Yeah, no, it's war. Nagasaki, Hiroshima." Right? You've heard, you've read the old-

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:06

       Wow.

   16. KMKurt Metzger4:06

       ... Nagasaki, Hiroshima?

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:07

       Yeah.

   18. KMKurt Metzger4:08

       Uh, and I, uh-

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:09

       The old Kid Rock combo. (laughs)

   20. KMKurt Metzger4:10

       Yeah, the old Kid R- but Dresd- okay, this is, like, how naive I am. W- uh, Jimmy was putting up, he, 'cause I could see the stories ready, loading up for the, whatever, the next segment, and I see Israeli ambassador in a- uh, UK, Dresden, so what I think it's gonna be is she's going, "How dare you compare what we're doing to Dresden? We're defending ourselves." There's, okay, that's what I think. You know, the, what a normal human would do is go, "I wouldn't want, never wanna say Dresden is okay." Did you ev- did you ever read Slaughterhouse, uh, uh, uh, Kurt Vonnegut? We had to read the book in school, uh, 'cause he was at Dresden, Kurt Vonnegut, and it was a deliberate terror attack that we did with, and this is just established history. It's a crime, but, you know, we were fighting the Nazis, et cetera, so, and we won, so okay, that's how I thought we looked at it, like it was a terrible crime, but she goes, "Yeah, you know Dresden? We gotta do Dresden."

4. 5:02 – 7:53

   Dresden as a warning: war-crime logic and ‘we have to do Dresden’

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:02

      Explain Dresden and what ha- what took place at Dresden for people who might not know.

   2. KMKurt Metzger5:07

      I don't remember what city it was. We firebombed them.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:09

      Firebombed the entire city. Yeah. Indiscriminately killed everybody.

   4. KMKurt Metzger5:12

      Uh, no, no, no, not indiscriminately. On purpose, targeted civilians to break their spirit. But keep in mind, Dresden, as much of a, it's a crime, but that was like the war's going on and on, so then they started doing shit like Dresden.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:27

      Evil shit.

   6. KMKurt Metzger5:28

      We didn't do n- Hiroshima the, week two of the war.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:32

      Right. Right. Was Dresden, why was Dresden so heavily bombed?

   8. KMKurt Metzger5:35

      This is all known too.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:36

      A punishing three-day Allied bombing attack intended to force a German surrender leveled the city and left tens of thousands dead.

   10. KMKurt Metzger5:43

       And probably more than that, by the way. It's, look, I thought everybody knew it was a war crime, and actually everybody did know up until, like you know how people thought natural immunity was a thing until a couple years ago?

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:52

       Yeah.

   12. KMKurt Metzger5:53

       That's, this is one of those. So I'm disturbed by that.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:56

       So she was essentially saying we have to commit a war crime.

   14. KMKurt Metzger5:59

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:59

       Or we're doing a war crime because-

   16. KMKurt Metzger6:00

       'Cause in her brain it's 1944 all day.... Noam, Noam from The Cellar pointed out this mindset, and, and it's very insightful, 'cause it's not 1948 when you got Israel established. It's '44, right after this shit happened, and you're real mad. You go, they live in 1940, but we lived in wokey times. So the clash between the cultures (laughs) , it ... Every time I hear an Israeli official or military person or fucking Bibi speak, it sounds like someone's embarrassing immigrant parent that doesn't know not to say gay slurs here in America. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:32

       (laughs)

   18. KMKurt Metzger6:32

       Every time. So again, I do not support Hamas or any Arab or Muslim. I hope I make it clear, I'm one of the good people. And, and like the good people, I yearn for us to go back and fight them. You remember back when that was our enemy? When we knew what was what? Before we went to all this cuckoo, caca? (laughs) I hope we go back to those days. In fact, if I was liberal, I'd also hope that. The Obama times, they were so great. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:59

       Yeah.

   20. KMKurt Metzger7:00

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:00

       The, the times of a less-

   22. KMKurt Metzger7:02

       I'm not conservative either.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:02

       ... less confusing enemy. Yeah.

   24. KMKurt Metzger7:05

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:07

       Yeah. It was, it was more clearly established what was going on. Um, this whole-

   26. KMKurt Metzger7:11

       Dave Smith knows shit, by the way. When you have ... You probably had him recently, right?

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:15

       Yeah. He, no, Dave's the best at it.

   28. KMKurt Metzger7:16

       Dave knows it. I'm, I'm very proud of Dave consistently, 'cause he really knows his shit, like-

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:21

       He doesn't talk about things unless he knows his things, and he goes very, very deep into subjects. He doesn't talk out of his ass at all.

   30. KMKurt Metzger7:28

       No, not at all, dude.
5. 7:53 – 10:00

   Piers Morgan, Oscars discourse, and ‘algorithm TV’ culture

   1. KMKurt Metzger7:53

      You see it on Piers Morgan?

   2. JRJoe Rogan7:54

      Yeah, I did see that.

   3. KMKurt Metzger7:55

      So my buddy, Gary, from Net Erotic who went on Piers Morgan to, with, uh, can't remember the other guy, the Critical Drinker, and then these two chicks from, one was English, and it was on Piers Morgan. Piers Morgan is, is getting, like, the YouTube talent pool of whatever to, to come on and debate these topics.

   4. JRJoe Rogan8:11

      This is ... Yeah.

   5. KMKurt Metzger8:11

      Like, he discovered all this.

   6. JRJoe Rogan8:12

      Right.

   7. KMKurt Metzger8:12

      And it's like, are the, are the Oscars over, or are the Oscars irrelevant?

   8. JRJoe Rogan8:16

      Ugh.

   9. KMKurt Metzger8:17

      And the, I, I cannot wait to ask Gary about it when I ta- uh, because the question, he'll be like, "Oh, how come Barbie didn't win an Oscar?" was actually, like, a topic. And it, like just say, you, imagine how, like, of an, a, a international news show (laughs) -

   10. JRJoe Rogan8:31

       What is this shit? (laughs)

   11. KMKurt Metzger8:32

       ... to figure out, like, Barbie? Oh, it's inc- it was incredible.

   12. JRJoe Rogan8:36

       Imagine being upset that a doll movie-

   13. KMKurt Metzger8:38

       How come Oppenheimer got it?

   14. JRJoe Rogan8:40

       Yeah. (laughs)

   15. KMKurt Metzger8:41

       Listen, even if it was, like, really good, it's a Barbie movie.

   16. JRJoe Rogan8:46

       Right.

   17. KMKurt Metzger8:46

       You know, Batman: Dark Knight, Heath Ledger, it, w- he, he's the reason that won, just his performance.

   18. JRJoe Rogan8:53

       Right.

   19. KMKurt Metzger8:53

       Uh, maybe, maybe you could say that for Barbie.

   20. JRJoe Rogan8:55

       That was a pretty fucking good movie. That's a different kind of movie, though. That's a y- dystopian movie about, you know, crime-ridden city.

   21. KMKurt Metzger9:01

       Barbie?

   22. JRJoe Rogan9:02

       Barbie's fun.

   23. KMKurt Metzger9:03

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan9:03

       But how do you-

   25. KMKurt Metzger9:03

       Oh, I thought you were talking about Barbie was crime-ridden too, (laughs) like-

   26. JRJoe Rogan9:06

       Yeah, but you, you, you-

   27. KMKurt Metzger9:06

       ... "Oh, is it good?" Sh- uh ... (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan9:07

       But how could you compare the two movies? I mean-

   29. KMKurt Metzger9:10

       Well-

   30. JRJoe Rogan9:10

       Uh, uh, Oppenheimer is a movie that people will be watching decades from now.
6. 10:00 – 14:11

   Theaters dying, cheap giant TVs, and Black Friday’s ugly side

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:00

      The, the theater industry did get killed, though. Everybody knows they can stream things at home now, so they just started giving it to you at home, and then they don't have to pay as much.

   2. KMKurt Metzger10:08

      Yeah, a lot of great reasons to stay home forever, guy. I don't know if you noticed-

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:11

      Hmm.

   4. KMKurt Metzger10:11

      ... them piling up.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:12

      Oh, boy. They're piling up.

   6. KMKurt Metzger10:12

      Don't even go out no more, man.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:14

      Boy, the COVID really did in the streaming thing.

   8. KMKurt Metzger10:17

      It did in all the thing. Hey-

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:18

      Well, it did, really did in, rather, the, the theater thing, because streaming movies at home is so much ... If you've got a nice TV, and boy-

   10. KMKurt Metzger10:24

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:24

       ... you can get a big ass TV cheap now. Like, what's a 65-inch, um, Samsung TV cost right now? When I, I remember-

   12. KMKurt Metzger10:34

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:34

       ... when they first came out with plasma screens, you would get, like-

   14. KMKurt Metzger10:36

       It's cheaper than insulin, I'll tell you that.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:37

       It was, like, a 24 or 28-inch plasma screen.

   16. KMKurt Metzger10:40

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:40

       And it was, like, $20,000.

   18. KMKurt Metzger10:43

       (laughs) Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:43

       And I was like, "$20,000 for a TV? That's crazy."

   20. KMKurt Metzger10:47

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:47

       Now, now a TV like that is free. They just give 'em-

   22. KMKurt Metzger10:49

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:50

       ... so you can see it and you don't even run it.

   24. NANarrator10:51

       Technically as low as $400.

   25. KMKurt Metzger10:53

       What?

   26. NANarrator10:54

       But that, I mean, that's the-

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:56

       Oh, my God, that's insane.

   28. NANarrator10:57

       They have less features and stuff, but yeah-

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:58

       Whatever.

   30. NANarrator10:59

       Sure, as I'm saying.
7. 14:11 – 23:15

   War coverage receipts: Wolf Blitzer clip, proportionality, and tribal blinders

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:11

      When you say, "Uh, these guys are getting, uh, in trouble on TikTok." Like, I don't, I'm not on TikTok. So like, what's-

   2. KMKurt Metzger14:18

      Of course not. You're not a pedophile.

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:19

      Eh... So what specifically are they putting up on TikTok that's getting them in trouble?

   4. KMKurt Metzger14:24

      You know, showing off, uh, like blowing shit up and doing... I don't, I don't look at it. I, I, I don't want to go on TikTok for any reason. (laughs) I don't care about anything on it. Uh, but we have the cl- on Jimmy Show, w- w- on Jimmy Show, we show clips. You know, like the clip of Wolf Blitzer? You ever see that clip of Wolf Blitzer where he has the, the, uh... I don't know what rank the guy is. This is in the early part of the war. And the guy's English is not... Usually, they have pretty good English, but his isn't great, right? And Wolf, who used to work for APAC, okay? Wolf's not a pro-on-the-side-of-everything dude, right? And he goes, "So they just blew up some, some refugee camp and... To get this one guy. To get this one Hamas..." And Wolf's like, "Wait, you dro- blew up a fo-... There was 400, 500 p- people at that camp." And he goes, "Hey, that's why." And like, Wolf's face. (laughs) He's just like... "Are we gonna go to c-" Oh, wait, I forgot the best part. I don't want to say best part, but w- on Wolf's face. And you can see Wolf is like, "What in the fuck?" This is what I'm talking about. And he goes, uh, "Well, did you get the guy?" He goes, "Oh, wait a minute, we can't conf-" (laughs) They might have not even got the guy.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:28

      Well, if they say-

   6. KMKurt Metzger15:29

      And Wolf goes-

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:29

      ... they can't confirm, they probably didn't get him.

   8. KMKurt Metzger15:31

      Of course. And Wolf... So Wolf knows that. So Wolf, he's like, "Uh, we have to go to a break." (laughs) That's the... That sticks with me.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:39

      Oh, I need to watch that. I need to watch that.

   10. KMKurt Metzger15:41

       I, I, I... Yeah. I was trying to find it. I have the episo- the clip from Jimmy's show.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       So is this one of those ones that's gonna get us in trouble?

   12. NANarrator15:47

       I don't... I...

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       Probably, right?

   14. NANarrator15:49

       No idea.

   15. KMKurt Metzger15:50

       Well, well-

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       Well, let's play it just for us.

   17. NANarrator15:53

       I don't... I have to see if I can find it. I don't know where the... Is this it?

   18. KMKurt Metzger15:55

       Oh, yeah.

   19. NANarrator15:56

       By any chance, is this it?

   20. KMKurt Metzger15:57

       This is it. This is it.

   21. NANarrator15:58

       Okay.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       Okay. Let me hear it, Jimmy.

   23. NANarrator16:01

       Back now to our breaking news here in the Middle East. A massive explosion at the largest refugee camp in Gaza. Joining us now is Lieutenant Colonel Richard Hecht. He's the international spokesperson for the Israel Defense Forces. Thanks so much for joining us. I, I wanna ask you first about this massive blast that we all just saw, we saw the video, at the Jabalia Refugee Camp in Gaza. Is there anything more you could, first of all, tell us about how this explosion happened?

   24. NANarrator16:30

       Hi. Well, thanks for having me. So we'll be coming out in the next, hopefully, hour with more data, but I can update you now that there's a very senior-

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:38

       Hold on. Pause. This is a Scottish Israeli dude? Like, what is this?

   26. KMKurt Metzger16:43

       Yeah. Possibly.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:44

       That accent's crazy.

   28. KMKurt Metzger16:45

       Do you know Australian Israeli? (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:46

       I know, but the accent with the flag, I'm like, my brain is going, "What's going on here?" This guy sounds like he's Scottish.

   30. KMKurt Metzger16:50

       I thought he had a cleft palate for a minute. (laughs)
8. 23:15 – 29:35

   Race, religion, and incentives: Jewish identity debate, DEI scores, and de-banking

   1. JRJoe Rogan23:15

      The Jewish thing is a wild thing because it's a race that you can join.

   2. KMKurt Metzger23:19

      No, it's not. It's a religion.

   3. JRJoe Rogan23:19

      Right? Because people think of it as a race.

   4. KMKurt Metzger23:22

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan23:22

      They do.

   6. KMKurt Metzger23:22

      You know why? 'Cause H- Hitler thought of it that way, sure. Also, a lot of Zionists think of it that way. A bunch of Jewish people don't. You know ultra-Orthodox Jews? Which I always liked ultra, because that's like the ult-

   7. JRJoe Rogan23:32

      Right, but you have to accept that some people feel that Jewish is a race.

   8. KMKurt Metzger23:37

      I, yeah, called anti-Semites out right now. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan23:40

      No, but there's like people that feel like-

   10. KMKurt Metzger23:42

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan23:43

       ... there's, there's a bunch of different races and Jewish is one of them.

   12. KMKurt Metzger23:47

       I don't feel like that.

   13. JRJoe Rogan23:47

       There are some Jewish people, but, but it is a thing, right?

   14. KMKurt Metzger23:51

       Uh.

   15. JRJoe Rogan23:51

       It's a thing that some people believe, right?

   16. KMKurt Metzger23:53

       Well, yes.

   17. JRJoe Rogan23:54

       Yeah. It's a thing you can join?

   18. KMKurt Metzger23:56

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan23:56

       Imagine, like imagine if you could join being Asian.

   20. KMKurt Metzger24:01

       Well, Whoopi Goldberg did it successfully.

   21. JRJoe Rogan24:02

       (laughs)

   22. KMKurt Metzger24:03

       And she's never looked back.

   23. JRJoe Rogan24:05

       (laughs)

   24. KMKurt Metzger24:06

       She called the Holocaust white-on-white crime and she's, she's... (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan24:09

       She did.

   26. KMKurt Metzger24:10

       You don't remember that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan24:11

       Yes, she did. It was insane.

   28. KMKurt Metzger24:13

       Basically, that's just some white people shit. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan24:16

       (laughs) Fuck it, it wasn't about race. What? What?

   30. KMKurt Metzger24:19

       Because she did the homework of anti-racism that she was-
9. 29:35 – 43:54

   NYT on Instagram, narrative discipline, and RFK Jr. locked out of primaries

   1. JRJoe Rogan29:35

      And these people are talking about, uh ... One of the guys was talking about Donald Trump's words being taken out of context, that it would be a bloodbath. Because he was talking about the auto industry-

   2. KMKurt Metzger29:46

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan29:46

      ... and the economy. And then, this guy starts bringing up other episodes of violent rhetor- rhetoric. It, it's hilarious. But, you guys watch this.

   4. KMKurt Metzger29:55

      You guys-

   5. JRJoe Rogan29:55

      Look. Give me some light.

   6. KMKurt Metzger29:57

      Oh.

   7. JRJoe Rogan29:57

      Give me some light.

   8. KMKurt Metzger29:57

      God.

   9. JRJoe Rogan29:57

      No, hold on.

   10. KMKurt Metzger29:58

       What I guessed.

   11. NANarrator29:58

       Seized on those comments and said they were an example of him calling for political violence-

   12. KMKurt Metzger30:03

       Yeah.

   13. NANarrator30:03

       Or predicting violent actions if he didn't win in November. His supporters said that those comments were taken out of context.

   14. NANarrator30:08

       I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you.

   15. NANarrator30:10

       Trump has a history of using violent rhetoric dating back to his 2016 campaign. That language took on new significance after the January 6th attack on the Capitol in 2021. And throughout his third campaign for president, he's been getting a lot of attention for the way he talks about violence and retribution on the trail.

   16. KMKurt Metzger30:26

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Exactly, see?

   18. NANarrator30:26

       He suggested that a general-

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       So this is the New York Times.

   20. KMKurt Metzger30:29

       It's all falling apart.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       This is these hard-nosed reporters with their cup of coffee, that are like fucking chasing down leads and they're pulling their hair out. And they're, they're meeting people in back alleyways. This is Woodward and Bernstein.

   22. KMKurt Metzger30:42

       Do people think that still?

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       This is Watergate (laughs) .

   24. KMKurt Metzger30:44

       Like, like-

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       No. But I mean, they're, they're essentially like ultra hard-left activists that are masquerading as journalists, and everything has their opinion on it. Every front page article.

   26. KMKurt Metzger30:56

       They're also, they're also ... Yeah. They're also masquerading as activists. They're bourgeois twits.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       Yeah.

   28. KMKurt Metzger30:59

       They have a lifestyle brand, which is, "I'm a Sex in the City guy or gal, and I work in the paper."

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       Uh-huh.

   30. KMKurt Metzger31:04

       They do the same amount of work as when you see those, "A Day In The Life Of Google."
10. 43:54 – 45:09

    Pandemic trust collapse: vaccines, autism taboos, and the ‘don’t research’ era

    1. KMKurt Metzger43:54

       And I would be frankly smug of, I remember making fun of, uh, what's her name? Uh, uh, Jim Carey's ex-wife because she thought, you know, her kid's shot, got autism.

    2. JRJoe Rogan44:02

       Jenny McCarthy, yeah.

    3. KMKurt Metzger44:03

       And I had a joke, I'm like, "Oh, just because he's half Canadian, it comes off like..." But, no, I was being glib.

    4. JRJoe Rogan44:08

       Yeah.

    5. KMKurt Metzger44:08

       I was being glib, just like Tom Cruise said to Matt Lauer, "You're being glib," and he was right.

    6. JRJoe Rogan44:12

       I, I don't think, that's not Jim Carey's kid, that's someone else's kid. That's another, another guy.

    7. KMKurt Metzger44:16

       And I was inaccurate in my mockery as well.

    8. JRJoe Rogan44:17

       I'm, I'm pretty sure. But, but either way, the, the, the connection between...

    9. KMKurt Metzger44:22

       I should've looked into it a little.

    10. JRJoe Rogan44:23

        The connection between vaccines and autism, if you just bring it up, people's hackles will get up and they'll start getting upset at you.

    11. KMKurt Metzger44:30

        Don't even talk about it. Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan44:31

        They get very upset at you and everybody feels complicit because they vaccinate their kids.

    13. KMKurt Metzger44:36

        (laughs)

    14. JRJoe Rogan44:36

        And everybody feels like they don't want to be attacked by being anti-science. And there, there's, there's that pejorative that gets tossed around that they hit me with so many times during the pandemic, anti-vaxx.

    15. KMKurt Metzger44:47

        You're right, uh, dude-

    16. JRJoe Rogan44:48

        But not only that, it's not technically a vaccine.

    17. KMKurt Metzger44:52

        Yeah, no, yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan44:52

        It was an experimental medication that had never been widespread d- distributed to the fucking world. It had never been done.

    19. KMKurt Metzger45:02

        Yeah, right. Well, biological women have never had dicks before, but it's a world of miracles now.

    20. JRJoe Rogan45:05

        (laughs)

    21. KMKurt Metzger45:06

        Now we live in a world where anything is possible.

    22. JRJoe Rogan45:09

        Uh, yeah.

11. 45:09 – 1:18:11

    Gender politics flashpoint: trans sports, testosterone claims, and ‘deny biology’ arguments

    1. KMKurt Metzger45:09

       Better, easier to clean women.

    2. JRJoe Rogan45:11

       Did you see that, those, the, the bike rider say, "Well, I don't know who, why you could say I'm not a biological woman. Uh, I'm a woman and I'm biological. So it's, it's on my passport, it says I'm a female." Like-

    3. KMKurt Metzger45:24

       That's a good...

    4. JRJoe Rogan45:24

       No, no, no, no, no.

    5. KMKurt Metzger45:25

       Oh, you-

    6. JRJoe Rogan45:26

       No, you're a guy.

    7. KMKurt Metzger45:27

       Touche, touche, sir.

    8. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       Yeah.

    9. KMKurt Metzger45:28

       I'm biological and I'm a woman.

    10. JRJoe Rogan45:30

        (laughs) That's great. It's so dumb and then whoever-

    11. KMKurt Metzger45:33

        I support it.

    12. JRJoe Rogan45:33

        I think it's Trevor Noah lets him get away with it.

    13. KMKurt Metzger45:36

        Trev-

    14. JRJoe Rogan45:36

        But whoever the fuck it is, it's one of those guys, is it Ju- one of the late night guys. It might not have been Trevor Noah.

    15. KMKurt Metzger45:41

        It could be any of them.

    16. JRJoe Rogan45:41

        It might've been Jimmy Kimmel or, uh, no, no, it wasn't Jimmy.

    17. KMKurt Metzger45:44

        Interchangeable.

    18. JRJoe Rogan45:44

        Wasn't, maybe it had been Jimmy Fallon. Either way. No, Seth?

    19. KMKurt Metzger45:48

        (laughs)

    20. JRJoe Rogan45:48

        (laughs) God, you know your fucking list of, of-

    21. KMKurt Metzger45:50

        Boy, you know-

    22. JRJoe Rogan45:51

        I think it was Seth. I think it was Seth. But either way-

    23. KMKurt Metzger45:53

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan45:53

        No, you're not.

    25. KMKurt Metzger45:55

        (laughs)

    26. JRJoe Rogan45:55

        You can get a woman pregnant. This is so different. Don't say you're not a biological male because now we're talking in terms of science.

    27. KMKurt Metzger46:04

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan46:04

        If you're getting me to say that you identify-

    29. KMKurt Metzger46:06

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan46:06

        ... as a woman, so you're a woman, you want me to call you Jill?

Episode duration: 2:55:30