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Joe Rogan Experience #2126 - Donnell Rawlings

Donnell Rawlings is a stand-up comic and actor. Catch his new special, "Chappelle’s Home Team – Donnell Rawlings: A New Day,” on Netflix. www.donnellrawlings.com

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Mar 27, 20242h 32mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 2:01

    Donnell’s “new day” makeover: suit, posture, and smelling expensive

    1. NA

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

    2. DR

      The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) (coughs)

    3. JR

      Law & Order. Law & Order tried to do you dirty, Donnell.

    4. DR

      Don't do that, man. Don't do that, man. Don't start with that.

    5. JR

      (laughs)

    6. DR

      << Birds flying high. >>

    7. JR

      (laughs)

    8. DR

      << You know how I feel. >>

    9. JR

      They tried to do you dirty. (laughs)

    10. DR

      << Breeze driftin' on by. >>

    11. JR

      (laughs)

    12. DR

      << You know how I feel. >>

    13. JR

      They tried to set you up.

    14. DR

      << It's a new day. >>

    15. JR

      They tried to-

    16. DR

      << It's a new dawn. >>

    17. JR

      They tried to label you.

    18. DR

      It's a new life for me, and I'm feeling good, Joe.

    19. JR

      Ah. You look good.

    20. DR

      Thank you.

    21. JR

      You look real good.

    22. DR

      Can-

    23. JR

      Where'd you get that suit? Who made that suit for you?

    24. DR

      Um, La- La Cantino out of Brooklyn.

    25. JR

      Nice.

    26. DR

      There's some Korean, um, tailors that I've been working with for the last two years.

    27. JR

      Nice.

    28. DR

      And they tryin' to make me go from ashy to classy, and it's a new day.

    29. JR

      I think it looks great.

    30. DR

      And another thing, if you don't know this, about this, uh, suit, Joe, I smell as good as this suit looks.

  2. 2:01 – 4:18

    Law & Order typecasting and why audiences love catching bad guys

    1. DR

      Law & Order didn't... Law & Order didn't motivate this. Law & Order-

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. DR

      First off, Law & Order is one of the most respected-

    4. JR

      Oh.

    5. DR

      ... franchises in the history of tele-

    6. JR

      It's been around a long time.

    7. DR

      Shout out to, uh, Arthur Forman.

    8. JR

      Shout out to Ice-T.

    9. DR

      Shout out to, uh, uh, Dick Wolf, and shout out to, um, everybody that's a part of that. And they say in New York, they say that, uh, you, uh, you w- you can't call yourself a actor in New York unless you been in Law & Order. That's how many-

    10. JR

      That makes sense.

    11. DR

      It makes so man- he has so many-

    12. JR

      I mean, how many versions do they have? This...

    13. DR

      I been in every... When I first, beginning of my career, people really thought I was a dr- dramatic actor more than a comic. I was booking a lot of stuff. I've been on every one of the episode, not episodes, the shows, and out of them, I think 80% of them, I was arrested.

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. DR

      And I was like, "Wait a minute, am I getting typecast every time I..."

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. DR

      They be like, "Action," I'm about just, "And what'd I do? What'd I do this time?" Every one, every one of them I got arrested for something.

    18. JR

      How many of them are there? How many Law & Orders are there, Jimmy?

    19. DR

      Intent, Special Victims...

    20. JR

      Special Victims... I'ma say, I'm gonna guess, I'm gonna say five. Five different Law & Orders.

    21. NA

      Uh, Homicide was technically part of it, too.

    22. JR

      Okay.

    23. NA

      So... Oh, wait, no this is related. Nevermind, hold on. You got, uh, Law & Order, Special Victims Unit.

    24. DR

      Two.

    25. NA

      Organized Crime.

    26. DR

      Three.

    27. NA

      Uh, Adaptive Series, Law & Order: Toronto.

    28. DR

      Four.

    29. NA

      Criminal Intent.

    30. DR

      SVU is in that one?

  3. 4:18 – 9:14

    Negativity as a business model: podcast outrage and “Black Twitter” dynamics

    1. DR

      That's why you find it's so many people that necessarily don't have a lot of talent but, but they subscribe to the bad guy side of it and wanna be negative, and then everybody draws to that. The bad guy is winning like a motherfucker. The bad guy is winning.

    2. JR

      In what way?

    3. DR

      Yes.

    4. JR

      In what way? What do you mean?

    5. DR

      I'll, I'll just say, I'll, I'll just say it like this, and I'm not being specific to anybody in general. Even in, in, um, the, the, the, the world of podcasts right now, right? The model for a lot of people now is like, say some outlandish shit, say some shit that's gonna piss somebody off, say some shit that's gonna make you hate, make people hate you, and now you have a platform. And you have a successful platform because, at the end of the day, with this, it's all about engagement. It's all about can you get people to engage? And, at the end of the day, if you can do that, whether people like you or not, you win.

    6. JR

      Sorta, but I think people get tired of that. They get tired of conflict. If your whole business is conflict, people don't wanna be in conflict all the time, and they realize that a lot of conflict is unnecessary. And if you're the type of person that likes to talk about conflict constantly and talk about it online, you probably also are willingly participating in it, maybe a little too willingly. Like, maybe you're getting... You know, you're creating problems, creating problems in your own life, even as you get attention. Like, be careful what you wish for, 'cause if you're, if you're known for just talking shit about people and then you become successful, then people are gonna talk shit about you. They're all gonna come after you.

    7. DR

      Yeah, but those people that... B- but, but the people that like that, they don't...... to have a conscious to even care about that.

    8. JR

      Yeah, but everybody has a conscious. I just think that we peop- accept a certain amount of bullshit. We accept it. And I think you should just concentrate on doing whatever the fuck you do well. You don't have to just say outlandish shit and be so negative. I just don't think it's necessary.

    9. DR

      You don't, but you are living in a different world than Black Twitter. (laughs)

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. DR

      I mean-

    12. JR

      It does work, it gets people's attention, man.

    13. DR

      For who you're speaking to, know who you're with, to who you- the people you're speaking to, yes. But Black Twitter-

    14. JR

      I get it.

    15. DR

      ... and on these urban sites-

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. DR

      ... you could be negative for years, and years, and years, and years, and years, and years, and a motherfucker will come up. And that's the truth.

    18. JR

      Mm.

    19. DR

      You have around a world of... << Oh, he is jolly good fellow >> But in that dark world, in that Black Twitter world, it's a lot, lot of negativity and it's very unfortunate.

    20. JR

      That is unfortunate. That's a very unfortunate thing. I don't enjoy that. (laughs)

    21. DR

      (laughs)

    22. JR

      I get it-

    23. DR

      Black Twitter?

    24. JR

      ... it, no, j- insulting people, getting mad at people. At a certain point in your life I've realized that there, there's no room for that in life. You don't have to, you could avoid it for the most part. If you could avoid it in your immediate life, you could probably avoid it in your internet life too.

    25. DR

      I think you avoid that conflict and negative energy the more successful you become, because I think that creates a, I don't give a fuck about bullshit attitude. I think that a lot of the anger and a lot of frustration that comes with a lot of people is the beginning of the stage, it's the beginning stages.

    26. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    27. DR

      But when you get... Like we were talking about it, um, uh, uh, um, earlier... Damn it, fuck. You gave me that joint too quick.

    28. JR

      Ah! (slaps table)

    29. DR

      You gave me that motherfucking joint too quick. We were talk... Um, phew, this is a bad one. (laughs)

    30. JR

      (laughs)

  4. 9:14 – 17:41

    Early comedy instincts: Donnell the “professional heckler” and DC ‘jonin’

    1. JR

      Well, at that age everyone is so, uh, ambitious and competitive that was getting into comedy at that time, that it was like... It wasn't very, there wasn't a lot of camaraderie between like the open micers, 'cause everybody was like super desperate. Like the, do you remember the desperate days where you weren't sure if you were ever going to be a professional?

    2. DR

      Um-

    3. JR

      Like, there's desperate days.

    4. DR

      I never, I never felt that way.

    5. JR

      Never?

    6. DR

      I, I'm telling you, I... Ah. It's, it's not being cocky or whatever you want to say. I never felt that way. Like the first-

    7. JR

      Back to open mics?

    8. DR

      The first open mic I ever did, I got a standing ovation.

    9. JR

      That's insane.

    10. DR

      I got a standing ovation. I think it wasn't the standing ovation because I had the best material, um, I was the funniest, but earlier on I used to go to the comedy clubs and fuck with comedians. Right? And I probably shared this. I used to heckle comedians and people started coming to the show to see me heckle.

    11. JR

      (laughs)

    12. DR

      So it was a thing. I'm, this is not, this is why when people say I'm an interrupter, I've been the interrupter.

    13. JR

      (laughs)

    14. DR

      I've been inter- inter- interrupting before I even got on stage.

    15. JR

      That's hilarious.

    16. DR

      And-

    17. JR

      How old?

    18. DR

      Um, I was like, I had to be like 21 or 22.

    19. JR

      Perfect.

    20. DR

      And the thing was, it was starting to build... People started getting excited for me. They knew that I was the guy in the audience that was funny. But they, but it was like some people in clubs, they hang around, you'd be like, "Man, he should do it." You know what I mean? Or like, "One day he should try it." So I ruined all the other comedian's careers or whatever.

    21. JR

      (laughs)

    22. DR

      You know, I would, I just, just destroyed them. They used to come up to me and be like, um, "Could you not fuck with me? I'm working on some new material." I'm like, "It's my job to heckle you. And it's your job to try to be funny."

    23. JR

      You were a professional heckler?

    24. DR

      I was a professional heckler.

    25. JR

      That is so insane.

    26. DR

      So much that prof- And I drew, I was (laughs) I was drawing the audience.

    27. JR

      That's so... How does this happen?

    28. DR

      As it happened. It just happened. And then eventually the club wanted me to shut the fuck up. (laughs)

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. DR

      Right? They was like, "We'll shut his ass up if he go on stage." And then the audience, people really started coming to see me talk shit. And I think the night, the first night I went on, I think it was the build-up, like something, people felt like, "This dude is gone." It felt like I was working for Safeway as a security guard in a grocery store. And the first time I went on stage all the people there for my job used to come, they all looked at me like, "He's about to quit or get fired." You know? It was just something that by chance... I never thought about doing comedy. I used to go there 'cause I got free promotional tickets. I never was the guy when I was younger, at 13, when I first looked into the mirror, I knew that comedy is what I wanted to do. It was never that. It just so happened, being in that situation, I went up, I ripped it, and when I ripped it, th- the first time I went on stage I knew, I was like, "This is what I will be doing for the rest of my life."And, I didn't say it, and I, and with that thought, Joe, I didn't feel like, "I'm going to be rich. I'm going to be famous. I'm going to have a TV show." For the first time I went on stage, only thing I wanted to do is be good. That's the f- almost to this point in my career now. I'm like, if you good, and this applies to anything in life. If you good at something, and you really good at it, and you passionate about it, and you study it, and you just live by that, eventually you going to get the rewards of that. I never was like, "I'm going to get a TV show." I was just like, "Man, if I'm good, I'm going to be able to work this club. If I'm good, I want to, I'll be able to work this club." And then, things just started happening for me. So I think when I first started, my friends and family, they was really, really rooting for me to do it, and the moment I went on stage I was like, "This is what I will be doing for the rest of my life."

  5. 17:41 – 28:46

    Studying greatness: Dave Attell, Dave Chappelle, and the work ethic of killers

    1. JR

      Dude, Dave Attell was at the Mother Ship this weekend, and I saw him-

    2. DR

      I loved it.

    3. JR

      I saw him Sunday night. Man, I don't know, I don't know if there's a funnier person that's ever existed.

    4. DR

      I ... You know what?

    5. JR

      He's so funny.

    6. DR

      Whenever I see his face ... First off, if you see Dave, Dave Attell's face now, you saw it 30 years ago.

    7. JR

      (laughs) .

    8. NA

      (laughs) .

    9. DR

      Yeah. Yo, he's like the white Morgan Freeman.

    10. JR

      He's insane.

    11. DR

      Of comedy. Like, he's been how he looks forever.

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. DR

      With a different color black hoodie on.

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. DR

      And it's so funny you mention his name, 'cause something came on my thread like a day ago.... and Dave Chappelle's, like, the type of guy, not even hearing what he said, you look at him and you say, "I said I need to write more jokes."

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. DR

      You're like, somebody... Their mere presence lets you know you gotta write more jokes. 'Cause out of all the years... And I've watched Dave Chappelle 30 years. I can't remember a time when he hasn't went on stage with the mindset of working on some new shit.

    18. JR

      Always.

    19. DR

      Always.

    20. JR

      Always.

    21. DR

      Always.

    22. JR

      Always.

    23. DR

      And you're like, "How the fuck can he keep-"

    24. JR

      That's what he does.

    25. DR

      "... doing this?"

    26. JR

      (clears throat) He's just, like, really focused on that one thing, you know? He used to be an alcoholic. And when he quit drinking-

    27. DR

      Happen to us all.

    28. JR

      ... he got way better when he quit drinking, man. You know? Like, there's... Something happened to him. Some comics, there's something that happens to, like... They're drunks when they're young and then they quit drinking, and they're not as good anymore, 'cause they're not as fun. 'Cause when they were drunk, they were wild.

    29. DR

      I've, I've figured out a way to balance both.

    30. JR

      I think... You definitely can't-

  6. 28:46 – 49:57

    Acting vs standup pressure: silence on set, The Corner audition miracle, and improv risks

    1. DR

      But at some point with, even with acting, there's a moment, this is the, the, the scariest part for me, I can go in front of 25,000, and thank you, you've created (laughs) platforms where I can do that, many people, I can go in front of 25,000 people and it feels... And I can hear, "Ha," and I'm f- it feels amazing.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. DR

      But it's the silence of when you know there's like 150 people behind the camera that relying on what you do right now, and that, that silence, "Quiet," when everybody's completely focused on that one person, the one they got deliver that line and then, "Action," that shit is terrifying.

    4. JR

      (laughs) .

    5. DR

      That shit is fucking-

    6. NA

      (laughs) .

    7. DR

      I'm telling you, I could, I've done shows with you and Dave where I've y- you guys created platforms to come out an arena like I'm about to beat the fuck... The world a... But the minute you say, "Quiet," and you like, "Uh-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu."

    8. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    9. DR

      And...

    10. JR

      Action.

    11. DR

      Action.

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. DR

      And then you gotta go.

    14. JR

      That, and you gotta really rehearse that thing, really know what you're saying while you're saying it, because you have to repeat these words in that order. You're not freestyling.

    15. DR

      You said, uh, earlier all the acting stuff, even silly stuff, I think maybe first four or five part, for- first f- four or five years of my career, everything I booked was dramatic.

    16. JR

      Mm.

    17. DR

      Nobody thought I was a comedian or if you wanna say a comedian, um, actor until the Chappelle Show.

    18. JR

      Mm.

    19. DR

      I had did like all of the Law and Orders. I had did HBO's The Corner where I played a heroin addict.... I think this was like the third audition I ever went on, third audition I ever went on. David Simon, um, Alex Foley, she's a big, big time... Fogley or Foley, it's been a long time since I've been to New York, so I might be saying her last name. But she casts all at The Wire, uh, Sopranos, um, all, all that stuff. I w- I went into an interview, I went in to audition for The Wire, just, I'm sorry, this was for Jackie Brown Carmen, Alex was when we did, um, when we went back and did The Corner, but I mean The Wire, but for The Corner, it was Jackie Brown Carmen. I went in for this audition, the audition was as a, as a heroin addict, right? Charles Dutton directed this series, it won three, um, three, uh, um, Emmy's. I played the character, Bre... That's my friend, Clark Peters, he's an incredible, incredible fucking theater actor, came from the, the theater background. So I'm doing, I'm doing audition Joe, this how... And I'm, I'm green as shit in an audition. And I'm like, "Man, I'm fucking this shit up, man."

    20. NA

      (laughs)

    21. DR

      "I ain't gonna get this shit." Jackie Brown Carmen said, "Donnell, relax. Be calm. God is in the room. You'll be okay." And I fuck with God, but I didn't know if God goes to auditions with you or not.

    22. NA

      (laughs)

    23. DR

      How much it would help, right? And I did my lines again, and I still thought I fumbled it. I was like, "Man..." I understand her support or whatever, I'm like, "Man, fuck this shit." And I just started saying anything, right? Four days later, I swear, some- sometimes you're doing an audition, you kind of feel when you're gonna at least get a call back.

    24. NA

      Right.

    25. DR

      I get, I did get a call, they said, "You booked it." I was like, "What the fuck?" I was like, I could not believe it. I was like, "I don't know how the fuck that happened." I was like, "I know I wasn't prepared, I was just saying anything," and I wanted to get the fuck outta there and just go r- run right back to the stage. Fuck acting, I wanna work on my jokes. So we get on set, David Simon, he's the original writer of- of the book, The Corner, um, with another, uh, police officer, it was a... He did police journalism in Baltimore. So I saw him on set, and I was like, "I got a que-" he was like, "Man, thanks for being part of it." I was like, "I got a question." I- I just had to know, right? I was like, I said, "How the fuck did I get this role?" Right? "I'm already booked." I said, "I swear," I s- I thought I bombed that audition. And he said, "Donnell, we liked the way you threw the lines away." Right?

    26. NA

      Oh...

    27. DR

      So if you mean not prepared, (laughs) he said, "We like the fact that you threw the lines away." And he said, "Another thing, you didn't feed into the stereotype of the guy's addiction." 'Cause everybody was going in there, was just going straight to the lean of the addiction.

    28. NA

      Mm-hmm.

    29. DR

      The- the worst part of it, being high. In audition, they didn't wanna see that. They wanna see who is this person not being high? And because I was off, and because I said, "Fuck it, I'm gonna just say it my way," that's what fucking got me the role in that shit.

    30. NA

      Well, that's probably the hardest thing to do, is to just say, just to free ball, and be in- in, you know, just say... I don't even remember the lines, but this is what I would fucking say.

  7. 49:57 – 52:37

    Pandemic-era comedy specials: shooting ‘New Day’ multiple times and COVID jokes dating material

    1. DR

      And that's how I felt even when, when I did New Day. First off, this was my third time shooting this special. I told you the story.

    2. JR

      Yes.

    3. DR

      And I remember every, and I, and I was really getting stressed, 'cause every time I saw you, you would be like, "When is the special coming out? When does the sp-" I'm like, "I don't know. I fucking shot the shit, I don't know." First time I did the special during the pandemic, at the end of the pandemic, when, uh, the clubs still had all this, uh, COVID protocol, and they got-

    4. JR

      They had masks on.

    5. DR

      Yeah, a mask on-

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. DR

      ... then vaccination cards. "Have you been tested?"

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. DR

      "And what shot you had? Johnson & Johnson," and all that shit. We did it in North Carolina, and we had... Outback was already against it, because the venue I chose, it held 600 people. I think it was The Fillmore Theater, 6-700 people, and we had a sell of 700 people. But then, when Netflix was like, "Ah, where's your card? Ah, where's this?" It went down. The first show went down to, like, 250 people.

    10. JR

      Oh, they had to have vaccine cards to get in?

    11. DR

      All of that shit.

    12. JR

      Oh.

    13. DR

      It's, which means now in the back of the show-

    14. JR

      No.

    15. DR

      ... you gotta put a black curtain.

    16. JR

      Oh, no.

    17. DR

      Now, you like, l- like, looking at, like, a half-filled audience.

    18. JR

      Oh, no.

    19. DR

      They got masks on and shit.

    20. JR

      Oh, no.

    21. DR

      Did the show. First show went well, right? First show went well. And then Dave was like, uh, 'cause he produced it. Dave said, um, "You know, if we don't get it, we can shoot it again." I'm like, "Motherfucker, ain't no time to shoot this if we don't get it this time." Second time at it, I caught it standing O. Stan Lathan going crazy, Ricky Hughes going crazy. We're like, "Oh, we got it, we got it." And we announced that my special was gonna come out the same time we announced the earthquake special was gonna come out. A week after that announcement, Dave calls me, he says, "Darnell, I wanna shoot your special over." I'm like, "The f-..." You know that's the most insulting thing? You tell a comedian you wanna shoot it over, the first thing you think, "What? It wasn't funny?"

    22. JR

      Right.

    23. DR

      That's the first thing. He was like, "I can put you in front of any audience, you will rip the room," he said, "But that doesn't make it a great special." He said, "Off everybody and the umbrella of the home team that people are really anticipating because your connection with that show is you. If we're gonna do it, we gotta get it right." It was tough, because I'm like, "Ah, this is gonna be the joint that give me a platform for people to see me do standup." But, we f- basically scrapped the shit. He said, "Darnell, you had too much COVID jokes in there." And think about it, if I would've shot a special with, with mask in it-

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. DR

      ... it automatically dates you to 2020.

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. DR

      Soon as you turn, it's like, "Oh, this shit was during the pandemic."

  8. 52:37 – 1:12:21

    Lockdowns, vaccines, and the aftermath: freedom vs policy, side effects, and economic damage

    1. JR

      How wild was the pandemic?

    2. DR

      I miss it. (laughs)

    3. JR

      (laughs)

    4. DR

      I was thinking about it the other day. I miss it, man. I miss not having to be around a lot of motherfuckers.

    5. JR

      Mm.

    6. DR

      I miss how people appreciated simple things. I miss how, when you had a bubble, you could block all this negative-

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. DR

      ... all the haters out. Uh-

    9. JR

      You weren't allowed to come inside the bubble, 'cause yeah.

    10. DR

      Give me six feet, bitch.

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. DR

      Bitch, give me six feet, the bubble, and inviting who you wanted. I, I miss that, I miss how people appreciate, like... I think we should do, like, a lockdown week, a worldwide lockdown week-

    13. JR

      (laughs)

    14. DR

      ... once a year where the whole fucking world just shuts the fuck down.

    15. JR

      Yeah, that would be great, except you can't tell people to shut things down, 'cause then you're gonna give the power to the government to shut things down whenever they want for a week, and then they might decide that two weeks is better, maybe a month. Like (laughs) , you can't-

    16. DR

      I know. I know.

    17. JR

      ... you can't give them the power to shut things down. If people decide to not do anything-

    18. DR

      Well, we should vote so we could vote on, like, a lockdown, like, national lockdown day.

    19. JR

      You don't want to take away freedom from people.

    20. DR

      I don't wanna take away freedom.

    21. JR

      If people wanna do it, they should be able to do it. If y'all agree to do it-

    22. DR

      Man, fuck that.

    23. JR

      ... do it on your own.

    24. DR

      Nah, fuck that. Fuck that, Joe.

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. DR

      Joe, what happened when we started making people (laughs) do something? Guess what happened?

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. DR

      When you make somebody do something, when you make somebody wash their hands, when you make somebody give you six feet, when you make them do something, it forces some type of change. I'm not saying forever, but I think that we should have a joint where we just lock down everything-

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. DR

      ... for like a fucking week. Everything is dead.

  9. 1:10:00 – 1:11:01

    Escaping the future: “hoods to the woods,” real nature vs VR, and Rogan’s AI doom talk

    1. DR

      That's why, Joe, that's why I fuck with the woods.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. DR

      That's why, Joe, I said, "Fuck Hollywood, I'm going from the streets to the creeks."

    4. JR

      Get yourself a satellite phone.

    5. DR

      I said, "I'm going from the hoods..." Get a satellite phone. No, I don't... (laughs) You got all this survival shit.

    6. JR

      Get a satellite phone, go to the woods.

    7. DR

      And then what? Who the fuck you gonna call?

    8. JR

      Just call whoever the fuck-

    9. DR

      Just you.

    10. JR

      ... you want.

    11. DR

      You're the only person-

    12. JR

      Hey, that's out there.

    13. DR

      This is what I decided.

    14. JR

      We got that photo out there.

    15. DR

      This decided, I'm going from the streets to the creeks, from the hoods to the woods, from whores to oars, from Adidas to Tevas, Joe. My whole mindset, my whole thing is a fucking new day.

    16. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    17. DR

      Fuck Hollywood, God.

    18. JR

      I, I don't think it ex- it really exists for us anymore.

    19. DR

      No, and that re- espe-

    20. JR

      Like, in comedy Hollywood, like comedy Hollywood? Comedy Hollywood is a ghost town.

    21. DR

      It's not there anymore. You ex- you are an example, and there's a lot of other examples of you can literally make Hollywood wherever the fuck you want to make Hollywood.

    22. JR

      But it's not even-

    23. DR

      You don't have to be on... It's not-

    24. JR

      Hollywood at all, though.

  10. 1:11:01 – 1:52:57

    Hollywood parties, deviance, and Donnell’s half-joking “church for imperfect people”

    1. DR

      The only reason you wanna be in Hollywood now is for the parties, Joe. And nobody's going to those parties anymore.

    2. JR

      No.

    3. DR

      You gotta tell 'em no.

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. DR

      (laughs) There's a lot... It's hard not to think about it, but there's a lotta people that that's not just, that's not just in the case with Diddy. It's not, like, this shit that's happening with him right now, this shit been going on in Hollywood forever. I'm not saying it's right, but at some point you gotta say no. (smacks lips) You, that, that's the simplest thing to tell somebody, the best advice. All right, this guy's getting ready bring a baseball bat stuck in his ass with a s- a line of cocaine. What are you gonna tell him?

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. DR

      (imitates airhorn) Uh, you gotta tell him no.

    8. JR

      Bro, that's some next level shit.

    9. DR

      What, what, the parties and-

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. DR

      ... it's not... Joe, you don't know about the parties, Joe?

    12. JR

      I don't go to those parties.

    13. DR

      I didn't say if you fucking went to the parties. I said, "Do you-"

    14. JR

      I hear rumors. I hear whispers.

    15. DR

      Joe, Joe, you don't know about these parties? You don't know about these parties? You don't know about the parties where the motherfucker come up to you, you with your girlfriend and they like, "I like both of you." You don't know about these parties?

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