Joe Rogan Experience #2127 - Eleanor Kerrigan

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hello, Eleanor.

   4. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:14

      Great deep breath.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      How are you?

   6. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:15

      I really took that in.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      What's going on, what's cracking, kid?

   8. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:18

      Nothing, I'm excited to be here.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      We're excited to have you.

   10. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:20

       Whoo-hoo.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       How's LA treating you?

   12. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:23

       LA's good.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       (laughs)

   14. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:24

       Uh, I mean, I'll be honest, I haven't been there a lot. After I filmed my special, I just... uh, I mean, I'm on the road so much.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Right.

   16. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:31

       So, which is good, and then I get to go to Philly. In between, I hang out with my mom. So, all... in between gigs, I'll just hang out at my mom's instead of going back to Ph- uh, LA. But I feel like I haven't been... yeah, I think I was there for five days last week.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Yeah, it becomes, when you do the road all the time, your house sorta just becomes some stop.

   18. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:50

       Yeah, but I have no responsibility whatsoever.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Yeah.

   20. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:52

       Like, I don't have a da- I don't have a plant. I have nothing, like so...

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Come on, Megs.

   22. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:56

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       What a free, what a free existence you've carved out for yourself.

   24. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:00

       (laughs) What an asshole. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       (laughs)

   26. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:02

       So selfish.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Isn't... it's funny, because people think about it that way, like you have to have things you're responsible for.

   28. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:08

       Sure.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Otherwise, you're a bad person.

   30. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:09

       Yeah, I t- I always tell my mom I'm living her... what she would wanna, wanted to do had she not had 10 children. (laughs)
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      It was fun, but it was like, "Whoa, you're, we're jumping right into this."

   2. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:04

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      It's a little easier 'cause they were happy to see me.

   4. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:06

      Oh, f-

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      But, but if-

   6. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:07

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      But if it was not that sort of situation, you know, and you're a n- unknown-

   8. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:13

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      ... and you're not the person that people came to see, they're like, "All right, what do we got here?" And if you're a chick...

   10. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:18

       Oh, forget it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       That is... I've always said this and I think this needs to be recognized, like, women are limited in the way the audience is willing to perceive them right off the bat. Just willing, willing to... You have to break through boundaries-

   12. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:33

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       ... in order for them to take you even remotely seriously. You start off... If a man starts off at zero, a woman goes on stage, she starts off at negative three.

   14. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:42

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       Minimum.

   16. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:42

       Immediately?

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       Immediately. If a guy sees a girl go on stage, how many guys, like your brother? If he sees-

   18. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:48

       (laughs) Always.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       Yeah. If he sees a girl walk on stage they're like, "Ugh."

   20. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:51

       Well, for a d- with Dice, the... When they look at me when I come out, they're like, "Is this a sacrifice?"

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       (burping sound)

   22. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:56

       "Who is this? What is this gonna... Who's this?"

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       But-

   24. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:58

       But now they know me.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       But once y-

   26. EKEleanor Kerrigan16:00

       So that's good.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       But once you're proven they're like, "Oh, okay."

   28. EKEleanor Kerrigan16:03

       Cool.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       But it's a harder gig.

   30. EKEleanor Kerrigan16:05

       Absolutely.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Does India have an…

   1. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      Does India have an app?

   3. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:01

      Come on over, guys. (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      Let's go.

   5. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:02

      Bring it on, bitches.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      (laughs)

   7. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:04

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Ugh.

   9. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:04

      Yeah, it's just weird. It's TikTok, uh... But I... My nieces were like, "You have to get on TikTok." So I did-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:10

       Mm-hmm.

   11. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:10

       ... but I stink at it. I don't know how, I don't know how to excel at it. I do watch the videos though.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       Well, you gotta be trans, first of all.

   13. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:17

       Hey. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:18

       Can you, can you at least fake it?

   15. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:20

       I... No, it's not fair.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       Why don't you give yourself a mustache?

   17. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:21

       I wanted to transition when I was a kid, and my mom wouldn't let me. I begged, I begged. I think I was, like, seven or eight. I wanted to be a male bodybuilder.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       Really?

   19. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:29

       And my mom was like, "N-"

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       Imagine if that was around today and you lived in Santa Monica.

   21. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:32

       Oh, I would be halfway somewhere.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       Yeah.

   23. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:34

       At least, if I was a kid now.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:35

       You'd be a guy.

   25. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:35

       Yeah. I'd have one nut maybe, half a tit. We'll see. But I'm saying, like, uh, I would... I begged. I told my mom, "I wanna..." I took a picture out of a male bodybuilder's magazine.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       Wow.

   27. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:47

       I ripped it out and I was like, "This is what I want." And my mom was like, "The guy?" Like... (laughs) I was like, "No, I wanna trans... I wanna be a male bodybuilder and I wanna..." I didn't know transition, I just said I wanna be a boy.

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       Oh, wow.

   29. EKEleanor Kerrigan30:58

       And she was so mad 'cause she had four boys in a row and she begged for a little girl. And then I came out, and I'm like, "What's up, motherfucker?" You know, like...

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:07

       How much that, you, what's up, motherfuckers, was affected by the fact that you have all those brothers?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   People are performative occasionally.…

   1. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      People are performative occasionally.

   3. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:02

      Oh, absolutely.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      And so, and, and sometimes when people want you to think of them in one way or another, they will behave that way, and people can keep that up for-

   5. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:13

      I didn't know them from anybody. We just met.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:16

      Right.

   7. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:16

      So you're s- saying sh- she was performing, like-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      Well I think e- e- be c- deciding that you're a woman-

   9. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:23

      Right.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:23

       ... and then performing like a woman-

   11. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:25

       Oh, I see. Okay.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:25

       ... is a thing that we can all do.

   13. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:27

       I see what you're saying.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       If you met me, Eleanor, if you met me, and you're like, "Oh my God, Joe Rogan is a woman."

   15. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:34

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:34

       Like, thinks like a woman, behaves like a woman-

   17. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:38

       Hm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:38

       ... has off this-

   19. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:39

       He's all feminine.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       ... woman energy, like so sweet, so amazing. Y- it's performative.

   21. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:46

       I see.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       Like you're a biological man.

   23. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:48

       Well, you don't think you could be-

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       And there's a lot of social value-

   25. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:52

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       ... in being trans today. There's a lot of-

   27. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:55

       Oh, I, I, I agree with you on that. I, I think-

   28. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       You get attention, you get attention for having nothing interesting about you, other than the fact that you're a boy who wants to be a girl.

   29. EKEleanor Kerrigan46:05

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       That's it. And that is like a crazy low barrier to entry to be a part of a protected class and to be celebrated for people that'll never be celebrated.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:07:51

   I know. It's funny…

   1. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:00:00

      She said, "What do you identify as?" Now, Charlie's in his 50s, and he goes, "The fuck are you talking about?" Like, you know what I mean? Like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:05

      I know. It's funny when they bring it up out of nowhere, "What are your pronouns?"

   3. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:00:07

      "What are you saying? You can see me, bitch."

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      "What are your pronouns? How do you identify?"

   5. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:00:10

      Like, right. (laughs) But they-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:11

      "With your mustache and your gray chest hair."

   7. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:00:13

      Yeah, and he's sitting there, you know. He's rubbing one out like, "What are you saying?" You know? Like, but he looked at her because it's so foreign-

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

      Right.

   9. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:00:21

      ... to him. And a- and the lady apologized. She goes, "I'm sorry, I have to ask." Like, because they... People get-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       It's like part of the regulations.

   11. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:00:28

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       Well, it's probably a DEI thing that they have that's attached to their business.

   13. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:00:33

       It's so crazy. It's-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       Yeah. It's, it's... Well, it's... You know, uh, Vivek Ramaswamy, that guy who's running for president?

   15. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:00:40

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       He's a brilliant guy, and he said some very interesting things. One, he said, he called it the tyranny of the oppressed. He goes, "Yeah, it's not good to oppress people." Sure, you should be-

   17. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:00:49

       Right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       Everyone should be free. But it's also not good to give the oppressed so much power that they can just r- run rampant over-

   19. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:00:57

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       ... everyone else, and everybody has to like adhere to their rules.

   21. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:01:02

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Because they were at one point in time a part of an oppressed class.

   23. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:01:06

       We're the o- yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

       And I think that's the overcorrection that we're talking about with like the trans stuff. The problem is today, it can be pushed in a way that's so different than when we were kids. When we were kids, if you were a gay guy, you became a priest. (laughs)

   25. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:01:21

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       Did you have a gay guy in high school that became a priest?

   27. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:01:24

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

       Yeah, we did.

   29. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:01:26

       (laughs) And he's not a pedophile.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:27

       We used to... No, our, our guy wasn't a pedophile.

Episode duration: 2:04:12