Joe Rogan Experience #2127 - Eleanor Kerrigan

1. 0:00 – 1:09

   Road life vs. “home base” in LA (and zero responsibilities)

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hello, Eleanor.

   4. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:14

      Great deep breath.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      How are you?

   6. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:15

      I really took that in.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      What's going on, what's cracking, kid?

   8. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:18

      Nothing, I'm excited to be here.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      We're excited to have you.

   10. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:20

       Whoo-hoo.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       How's LA treating you?

   12. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:23

       LA's good.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       (laughs)

   14. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:24

       Uh, I mean, I'll be honest, I haven't been there a lot. After I filmed my special, I just... uh, I mean, I'm on the road so much.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Right.

   16. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:31

       So, which is good, and then I get to go to Philly. In between, I hang out with my mom. So, all... in between gigs, I'll just hang out at my mom's instead of going back to Ph- uh, LA. But I feel like I haven't been... yeah, I think I was there for five days last week.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Yeah, it becomes, when you do the road all the time, your house sorta just becomes some stop.

   18. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:50

       Yeah, but I have no responsibility whatsoever.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Yeah.

   20. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:52

       Like, I don't have a da- I don't have a plant. I have nothing, like so...

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Come on, Megs.

   22. EKEleanor Kerrigan0:56

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       What a free, what a free existence you've carved out for yourself.

   24. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:00

       (laughs) What an asshole. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       (laughs)

   26. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:02

       So selfish.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Isn't... it's funny, because people think about it that way, like you have to have things you're responsible for.

   28. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:08

       Sure.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Otherwise, you're a bad person.

2. 1:09 – 4:34

   Growing up in a 10-kid household: pregnancies, personalities, and a wild nurse story

   1. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:09

      Yeah, I t- I always tell my mom I'm living her... what she would wanna, wanted to do had she not had 10 children. (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:16

      Mm. 10 children.

   3. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:17

      Yeah, good times.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:19

      Wow, isn't that crazy?

   5. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:19

      Keep it up, lady.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:20

      (laughs) 10 kids is so bonkers.

   7. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:23

      Who does that?

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:24

      T- how about on the ninth one? You're like, "One more." (laughs)

   9. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:27

      Her worst pregnancy.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       The ninth one?

   11. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:29

       The ninth one, longest, uh, delivery. My little brother, Bobby.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:32

       Yeah?

   13. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:32

       She said that's how lazy he was, he wouldn't come out.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:34

       (laughs)

   15. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:34

       He's so lazy. (laughs) She said he was hanging on for dear life. I'm like, "Why?" And she said, "Because he's lazy."

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:41

       It'd be an interesting study to have 10 kids and just to see, like, what makes them come out different.

   17. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:47

       Right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:47

       'Cause they're, they're a fucking di- this is one thing, like, having children, seeing them from babies, you realize, like, oh, they're different right out of the box.

   19. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:55

       Yeah. And-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:56

       Like, it has zero to do with, like, what you tell them, "This is what you should do." Like, it... a lot of them is just how they come from the factory.

   21. EKEleanor Kerrigan2:05

       Exactly. And y- you always think, like, w- I know there's genetic stuff, like, there's... y- you inherit stuff-

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:11

       Mm-hmm.

   23. EKEleanor Kerrigan2:11

       ... genetically, whatever. Uh, you know, I'm pretending-

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:13

       Yeah.

   25. EKEleanor Kerrigan2:13

       ... I know what I'm saying. And, uh... (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:15

       Epigenetics.

   27. EKEleanor Kerrigan2:16

       Yeah, but my... oh, that's good. Oh, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:18

       Yeah.

   29. EKEleanor Kerrigan2:18

       I remember that. Anyway- (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:20

       Ugh.
3. 4:34 – 9:17

   The Comedy Store late-night ecosystem: Don Barris, danger, and Philly energy

   1. EKEleanor Kerrigan4:34

      I'm like, "Oh, God." I remember this one night at The Comedy Store.

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:37

      (laughs) That's what your Philly guys-

   3. EKEleanor Kerrigan4:38

      They're crazy.

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:39

      (laughs)

   5. EKEleanor Kerrigan4:39

      This is... I don't know if you'll remember this, because it was more like I was a nervous wreck. Jimmy was visiting, and he worked se- like, he installed computers all over the country, so he would come to LA a lot. And he'd just pop in to The Comedy Store, and we'd be like, "Oh, shit, my brother's here." So, we're hanging out. You were... (laughs) we were all hanging out, like, in the... what is it called? Like, the back-

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:00

      Where the parking lot is?

   7. EKEleanor Kerrigan5:01

      Kind of.

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:02

      Yeah.

   9. EKEleanor Kerrigan5:02

      But, like, inside.

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       Right, right, right.

   11. EKEleanor Kerrigan5:03

       You know, in the little...

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:04

       Yeah.

   13. EKEleanor Kerrigan5:04

       So, you're sitting on the, the ledge, and, uh, Don Barris was saying crazy shit to me.

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:11

       (laughs)

   15. EKEleanor Kerrigan5:11

       Right? And in the way, uh, Don does it, we love it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan5:14

       Right, right, right.

   17. EKEleanor Kerrigan5:14

       We love it. But I'm dying, and he's saying, like, horrible shit. (laughs) Right?

   18. JRJoe Rogan5:18

       (laughs)

   19. EKEleanor Kerrigan5:18

       But we're crying laughing, and then, uh... and Jimmy was, like, just taking it in, like, "What the fuck is this?"

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:24

       (laughs)

   21. EKEleanor Kerrigan5:24

       And you (laughs) ... you looked at Don-

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:26

       (laughs) I can't.

   23. EKEleanor Kerrigan5:27

       ... you looked at Don and you go, "Uh, Don, look at his calves. Rethink what you're saying."

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:33

       (laughs)

   25. EKEleanor Kerrigan5:33

       'Cause Jimmy has these inc- ridiculous calves, and he's, he's like Popeye. His forearms-

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:36

       And he was wearing shorts.

   27. EKEleanor Kerrigan5:38

       ... yeah, of course.

   28. JRJoe Rogan5:38

       Yeah.

   29. EKEleanor Kerrigan5:39

       Jean shorts, I'm positive. He's an idiot. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:42

       The... but I was like, "Don, you're about to get smashed."
4. 9:17 – 15:19

   Stage nerves, reps, and finding authenticity (Joey Diaz & Theo Von examples)

   1. EKEleanor Kerrigan9:17

      He's truly the freest of entertainers. Like, when I go up, I'm... I still get nervous. I don't know if you s-... get nervous at all.

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:23

      Sure.

   3. EKEleanor Kerrigan9:24

      Just... You do?

   4. JRJoe Rogan9:24

      Yeah, sure.

   5. EKEleanor Kerrigan9:25

      Okay, good. Because I... sometimes I feel like an idiot.

   6. JRJoe Rogan9:26

      If you care about something, you're gonna get nervous.

   7. EKEleanor Kerrigan9:28

      There you go. Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:30

      That's what it is.

   9. EKEleanor Kerrigan9:30

      And so I panic a little. But Don Barris just doesn't... He just walks up, like, "Hey, it's me."

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:36

       Yeah.

   11. EKEleanor Kerrigan9:36

       Like, uh, he just... Maybe it's from years of doing the warmup as well.

   12. JRJoe Rogan9:40

       I think that, too.

   13. EKEleanor Kerrigan9:41

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan9:41

       I think it's, it's a reps thing. It's reps.

   15. EKEleanor Kerrigan9:44

       Sure.

   16. JRJoe Rogan9:44

       How many reps do you put it on stage? Like, some of those guys in New York that were hosts, they would get better really quick, especially if they're delivering.

   17. EKEleanor Kerrigan9:51

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan9:51

       Because if you're hosting these nights in New York where people are doing seven minutes-

   19. EKEleanor Kerrigan9:56

       Uh-huh.

   20. JRJoe Rogan9:56

       ... you're going on stage, you're interacting with the crowd over and over and over again.

   21. EKEleanor Kerrigan10:01

       And keeping them.

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:01

       Yeah. And you find a way to be yourself.

   23. EKEleanor Kerrigan10:04

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       It's l- s-... like, the inauthentic thing that a person does on stage, you feel it while you're doing it, the audience feels it.

   25. EKEleanor Kerrigan10:13

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan10:13

       And they might laugh still, but you know that you're not really... But then when someone figures out how to be just them-

   27. EKEleanor Kerrigan10:21

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan10:21

       ... for whatever reason, like, uh, Sebastian, he had to figure that out.

   29. EKEleanor Kerrigan10:25

       Sure.

   30. JRJoe Rogan10:25

       You know, and-
5. 15:19 – 17:20

   Women in standup: tougher starts, topic constraints, and audience bias

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:19

      That is... I've always said this and I think this needs to be recognized, like, women are limited in the way the audience is willing to perceive them right off the bat. Just willing, willing to... You have to break through boundaries-

   2. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:33

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:33

      ... in order for them to take you even remotely seriously. You start off... If a man starts off at zero, a woman goes on stage, she starts off at negative three.

   4. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:42

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:42

      Minimum.

   6. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:42

      Immediately?

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:43

      Immediately. If a guy sees a girl go on stage, how many guys, like your brother? If he sees-

   8. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:48

      (laughs) Always.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:48

      Yeah. If he sees a girl walk on stage they're like, "Ugh."

   10. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:51

       Well, for a d- with Dice, the... When they look at me when I come out, they're like, "Is this a sacrifice?"

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       (burping sound)

   12. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:56

       "Who is this? What is this gonna... Who's this?"

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       But-

   14. EKEleanor Kerrigan15:58

       But now they know me.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       But once y-

   16. EKEleanor Kerrigan16:00

       So that's good.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       But once you're proven they're like, "Oh, okay."

   18. EKEleanor Kerrigan16:03

       Cool.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       But it's a harder gig.

   20. EKEleanor Kerrigan16:05

       Absolutely.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       It is a harder gig for a woman, and then women have these two other boundaries. If you talk about sex, then-

   22. EKEleanor Kerrigan16:12

       Oh.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       Then people, like, think you're a slut and you're... They disrespect you, right?

   24. EKEleanor Kerrigan16:17

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:17

       Or, like, you can talk about how men suck. You could talk, you could talk about a few things. You can't talk about politics. You start talking about politics to a bunch of men, they're like, "Shut the fuck up. I got opinions too."

   26. EKEleanor Kerrigan16:28

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       They'll just start, they'll just start yelling at you, "Bullshit."

   28. EKEleanor Kerrigan16:32

       It goes back to the-

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:32

       "Sucking Russia collusion in the Steele dossier."

   30. EKEleanor Kerrigan16:36

       (laughs)
6. 17:20 – 24:55

   Ambien horror stories and the Roseanne fallout (drugs, memory, and accountability)

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:20

      Actually, I shouldn't say she was forced into that because that was one of the issues that they had with her when she was on that show is that she loved Trump. (laughs)

   2. EKEleanor Kerrigan17:26

      We- Right, she got fired for it. She got fired for-

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:28

      No.

   4. EKEleanor Kerrigan17:28

      ... her opinions.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:29

      She got f- She got fired because she was Ambien'd up in the middle of the night.

   6. EKEleanor Kerrigan17:33

      Oh, right, right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:33

      She made some tweets about the lady from, uh-

   8. EKEleanor Kerrigan17:37

      Right. She's-

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:37

      ... the government that looks like the lady from the Planet of the Apes.

   10. EKEleanor Kerrigan17:41

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:41

       Yeah, and she didn't know that that lady was Black. She thought that lady was Jewish.

   12. EKEleanor Kerrigan17:44

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:44

       And she talks about it on stage. She's like, "I thought that bitch was Jewish."

   14. EKEleanor Kerrigan17:48

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:48

       And if you look at her, you get it. Like, she's-

   16. EKEleanor Kerrigan17:49

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:50

       Very light-skinned and she has s- straight hair. And, you know, unfortunately, the joke that she was making, the only reason why she could make that joke, is 'cause it kinda works.

   18. EKEleanor Kerrigan18:00

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan18:00

       Like, you know?

   20. EKEleanor Kerrigan18:01

       It's pretty accurate.

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:02

       B- Right, but it's not... She was just an old lady who has-

   22. EKEleanor Kerrigan18:06

       Right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:06

       ... mental health issues who's on Ambien and a host of other drugs, and people wanted to ruin her life for something she didn't even fucking remember doing.

   24. EKEleanor Kerrigan18:13

       That's the crazy part.

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:15

       Bro, they dope, they dope people up with all kinds of wild shit.

   26. EKEleanor Kerrigan18:19

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan18:19

       And then they make you responsible for what you did when you were on that wild shit? That seems so crazy.

   28. EKEleanor Kerrigan18:24

       Ambien's the fucking scariest to me.

   29. JRJoe Rogan18:27

       Bro, Kevin James made a turkey, I think it was a turkey. He made a meal.

   30. EKEleanor Kerrigan18:32

       On Ambien.
7. 24:55 – 36:45

   Twitter vs. TikTok: addiction, outrage loops, and “preferred spyware”

   1. EKEleanor Kerrigan24:55

      I'm a little addicted to TikTok.

   2. JRJoe Rogan24:57

      ... yeah, TikTok, it-

   3. EKEleanor Kerrigan24:58

      Is this a-

   4. JRJoe Rogan24:59

      ... I wonder if-

   5. EKEleanor Kerrigan24:59

      ... intervention? (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan25:00

      No, it's not.

   7. EKEleanor Kerrigan25:01

      Just kidding. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan25:01

      But I think... I wonder if TikTok is... What if... I wonder if it's better for you to just scroll at videos of things happening that are nonsense.

   9. EKEleanor Kerrigan25:10

      Mm-hmm. Sometimes there's news, but-

   10. JRJoe Rogan25:12

       But maybe that's better, 'cause that doesn't... Like, I don't have TikTok, but I have Instagram. And Instagram does not make me feel the way that Twitter makes me feel. Twitter makes me feel like I'm watching a fight-

   11. EKEleanor Kerrigan25:22

       Oh, yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan25:23

       ... between cats. Like, it's a cat fight-

   13. EKEleanor Kerrigan25:25

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan25:25

       ... in a house. Just... (meows)

   15. EKEleanor Kerrigan25:28

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan25:29

       And I just want to get the fuck out of... I don't want to be a part of this.

   17. EKEleanor Kerrigan25:32

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan25:32

       And it's also, like, a very poor... It's, it's a very clearly poor management of time and resources. If you're using your time and resources to argue constantly on Twitter, but your, your life has to be a mess.

   19. EKEleanor Kerrigan25:47

       Has to be.

   20. JRJoe Rogan25:48

       It has to be a mess. It's impossible for you to only be disciplined-

   21. EKEleanor Kerrigan25:52

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan25:52

       ... in, uh, in like, in, in this area, or you, like, contain yourself in this area. But the rest of your life, though, everything's locked down, you don't have any problems. But when you go after Twitter, it, uh, it doesn't affect you and it doesn't affect the rest of your life. Bullshit.

   23. EKEleanor Kerrigan26:05

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan26:06

       Bullshit. You're-

   25. EKEleanor Kerrigan26:06

       You're fighting with the invisible man-

   26. JRJoe Rogan26:08

       Yeah.

   27. EKEleanor Kerrigan26:08

       ... but that stuff is out there forever.

   28. JRJoe Rogan26:10

       It's-

   29. EKEleanor Kerrigan26:11

       Forever.

   30. JRJoe Rogan26:11

       Yeah. It's out there forever, and it's also just a... It's 100% proof that you are engaging in a foolish waste of your resources.
8. 36:45 – 44:06

   Free the nipple, fake breastfeeding loopholes, and why topless laws exist

   1. JRJoe Rogan36:45

      Is that, wasn't that a thing in New York City where they were like illegally arguing that women-

   2. EKEleanor Kerrigan36:49

      Oh, I've seen the, I've seen the protests there.

   3. JRJoe Rogan36:51

      ... should be able to walk around topless because men can walk around topless.

   4. EKEleanor Kerrigan36:54

      Yeah. I saw a, a protest in Asheville one time, and I was having lunch with Carla Bulve, we were doing a festival down there, and it was l- packed, like and it was... We were both like, and I'm not gay, but watching them flap while you're walk- it's just, I was like, "Oh, wow, that's what they're supposed to look like?"

   5. JRJoe Rogan37:11

      Yeah.

   6. EKEleanor Kerrigan37:11

      And then Carla's just on the floor like, "Holy shit, I'm gonna move here."

   7. JRJoe Rogan37:15

      This is, isn't it interesting that that's controversial? That like there's laws-

   8. EKEleanor Kerrigan37:19

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan37:19

      ... that will tell you... So...Look, if, if, if there's laws about a man exposing himself in public, that makes sense, 'cause that's like a public health danger, and it's danger because the vast majority of, like, sexual predators-

   10. EKEleanor Kerrigan37:35

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan37:35

       ... especially for, like, younger people, are men, right? Right?

   12. EKEleanor Kerrigan37:38

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan37:39

       So a guy with his dick out in public is, like, a public safety hazard.

   14. EKEleanor Kerrigan37:42

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan37:42

       A woman with her tits out is really... No one's scared.

   16. EKEleanor Kerrigan37:46

       But it's because of the predators-

   17. JRJoe Rogan37:48

       No one's scared.

   18. EKEleanor Kerrigan37:48

       ... probably.

   19. JRJoe Rogan37:49

       Right.

   20. EKEleanor Kerrigan37:49

       They're trying to keep them off. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan37:50

       That's my point. That's my point.

   22. EKEleanor Kerrigan37:51

       Oh, okay.

   23. JRJoe Rogan37:51

       It's like, it's the only time where a law is in that, where you don't have any fear whatsoever about that person harming someone-

   24. EKEleanor Kerrigan38:01

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan38:01

       ... with their body, but yet you make their body a crime.

   26. EKEleanor Kerrigan38:06

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan38:07

       You make showing parts of their body a crime. Like, you could get a ticket or you could get-

   28. EKEleanor Kerrigan38:10

       Right. Oh, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan38:10

       I think they could probably even arrest you for public nudity.

   30. EKEleanor Kerrigan38:13

       Indecency. Public-
9. 44:06 – 48:19

   Childhood tomboy roots to trans debate: identity, incentives, clinics, and detransition

   1. JRJoe Rogan44:06

      Do you think they could've talked you into being trans if you were like 12?

   2. EKEleanor Kerrigan44:08

      Absolutely. 100%

   3. JRJoe Rogan44:10

      Isn't that crazy?

   4. EKEleanor Kerrigan44:11

      And I'm good friends with Dylan Mulvaney. We did a pilot together.

   5. JRJoe Rogan44:15

      That's hilarious.

   6. EKEleanor Kerrigan44:15

      Dylan was, um, not trans when I met them.

   7. JRJoe Rogan44:22

      How'd he say it?

   8. EKEleanor Kerrigan44:23

      I don't know.

   9. JRJoe Rogan44:23

      Be careful.

   10. EKEleanor Kerrigan44:25

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan44:25

       You're gonna get in trouble.

   12. EKEleanor Kerrigan44:26

       She knows I love her, so I can't say anything wrong. But I li-

   13. JRJoe Rogan44:30

       So you knew her when she was a he?

   14. EKEleanor Kerrigan44:31

       Right. And we had the best time. Uh, but, but meeting her, when I did, I was like, "Oh, she is more woman than I ever was, ev- ever will be." Like I know I have the parts.

   15. JRJoe Rogan44:44

       Even with a dick?

   16. EKEleanor Kerrigan44:46

       I fe- I'm telling you, more girly than... (laughs) I mean, girly-girly.

   17. JRJoe Rogan44:52

       Mm-hmm.

   18. EKEleanor Kerrigan44:52

       And my best friend growing up was like that.

   19. JRJoe Rogan44:54

       You're a very kind person.

   20. EKEleanor Kerrigan44:55

       But-

   21. JRJoe Rogan44:56

       You're, you're a very kind person.

   22. EKEleanor Kerrigan44:57

       Why?

   23. JRJoe Rogan44:57

       And I just wanna introduce this thought into your mind.

   24. EKEleanor Kerrigan44:59

       Uh-oh.

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:00

       People are performative occasionally.

   26. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:02

       Oh, absolutely.

   27. JRJoe Rogan45:03

       And so, and, and sometimes when people want you to think of them in one way or another, they will behave that way, and people can keep that up for-

   28. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:13

       I didn't know them from anybody. We just met.

   29. JRJoe Rogan45:16

       Right.

   30. EKEleanor Kerrigan45:16

       So you're s- saying sh- she was performing, like-
10. 48:19 – 1:02:27

    Predators, Nickelodeon scandals, and algorithm-amplified moral panic

    1. JRJoe Rogan48:19

       Well, isn't there like a scandal that's going on right now?

    2. EKEleanor Kerrigan48:21

       Yeah. Bad. Real bad.

    3. JRJoe Rogan48:22

       What is, what is the Nickelodeon scandal?

    4. EKEleanor Kerrigan48:24

       It's uh, the Dan guy, uh...

    5. NANarrator48:25

       A lot. I mean, I don't even remember if it's that.

    6. EKEleanor Kerrigan48:26

       It took-

    7. NANarrator48:26

       There's another one too.

    8. JRJoe Rogan48:27

       I just-

    9. EKEleanor Kerrigan48:27

       Oh, really? A new one? Oh.

    10. JRJoe Rogan48:29

        I just like kids. I just like working with kids.

    11. EKEleanor Kerrigan48:32

        Agreed.

    12. JRJoe Rogan48:32

        I just like being around them and being alone with them.

    13. EKEleanor Kerrigan48:34

        Priests. Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan48:35

        Being alone with them. I like being alone with them.

    15. EKEleanor Kerrigan48:37

        Teachers. Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan48:37

        Just, just me and the kid.

    17. EKEleanor Kerrigan48:39

        Camp counselors.

    18. JRJoe Rogan48:40

        Shh. Let's keep a secret. What the fuck?

    19. EKEleanor Kerrigan48:44

        That's fucked up.

    20. JRJoe Rogan48:44

        Right. But there's humans that recognize that there's like patterns that they can fall into-

    21. EKEleanor Kerrigan48:52

        Mm-hmm.

    22. JRJoe Rogan48:52

        ... where they can get more attention and get more praise. So this is the Nickelodeon thing. It says, "The actor has claimed he was sexually abused by dialogue and acting coach, Brian Peck-"

    23. EKEleanor Kerrigan49:02

        Oh.

    24. JRJoe Rogan49:02

        "... who pleaded no contest to performing a lewd act with a 14 or 15-year-old and to oral copulation with a minor under 16 in 2004. Ultimately sentenced to 16 months in prison and ordered to register as a sex offender in October 2004. In his first interview since the release of the doc, Bell has shared his thoughts on Nickelodeon's response to the allegations."

    25. EKEleanor Kerrigan49:24

        This is sad.

    26. JRJoe Rogan49:24

        Yeah, I mean, how do you know when someone... I mean, if you hire, you're hoping you're hiring people that just like, like making kid shows. Maybe they have kids.

    27. EKEleanor Kerrigan49:32

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan49:32

        You know, whether it's-

    29. EKEleanor Kerrigan49:32

        But why can't the parent be present? Like this, this kinda shit, but like, they say kids that get molested and stuff like that-

    30. JRJoe Rogan49:39

        Mm-hmm.
11. 1:02:27 – 1:09:41

    Canada, public prayer, assimilation vs. multiculturalism, and U.S. military footprint

    1. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:02:27

       ... the Catholic Church, uh, changes on a dime. Like, even something... Lent, right now we're in Lent, right?

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:02:34

       Right.

    3. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:02:35

       There were so many rules that my mom had that we don't ha- like my generation didn't have, and now it's a whole nother, like Lent is n- Now I'm looking at kids like, "What? You can do that? It's Lent, you're not allowed to... You have to do this, this, and this." But they've changed, they just change so that they r- can recruit more people.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:02:54

       That's why the Muslims are gonna win. They don't give a fuck who joins.

    5. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:02:59

       Exactly.

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:02:59

       That's... Ramadan is you got a month and nobody's eating.

    7. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:03:02

       (laughs)

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:03:03

       All day long-

    9. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:03:03

       Unbelievable.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:03:04

        ... no water, no food. We were, uh, in Downtown the other day.

    11. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:03:08

        Mm-hmm.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:03:08

        Driving Downtown LA and there's an alleyway and this dude was in the alleyway-

    13. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:03:13

        In LA?

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:03:14

        As... No.

    15. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:03:14

        Or here?

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:03:14

        In Austin.

    17. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:03:15

        Austin. Okay.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:03:15

        Did I say LA?

    19. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:03:15

        Yeah, yeah. It's okay.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:03:16

        Did I? I'm sorry. In Austin.

    21. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:03:17

        I was, I'm just-

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:03:17

        Downtown Austin. And, uh, there was this dude that was in an alleyway and he was, uh, it was the sun was going down, so he's praying.

    23. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:03:25

        Oh, I, I, I saw that.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:03:26

        He was, "Wherever the fuck you are, you gotta pray."

    25. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:03:28

        Yeah, I saw it in New York City.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:03:29

        Yeah.

    27. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:03:29

        And he wa- he was like i- and it's so hard to find a space in New York City, so I-

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:03:34

        Right.

    29. EKEleanor Kerrigan1:03:34

        I was like, "Wow, that is impressive."

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:03:37

        That's devotion.

Episode duration: 2:04:12