Joe Rogan Experience #2128 - Joey Diaz

1. 0:00 – 3:58

   Diddy raid rumors, internet conspiracy layers, and staying out of celebrity chaos

   1. JDJoey Diaz0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      This is a good way to open up the podcast because Jamie is an expert on all things black Twitter.

   4. NANarrator0:17

      Well ...

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      What's going on, Jamie?

   6. NANarrator0:18

      I don't know. It's ... There's a lot going on. A lot of rumors are flying. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      The rumors are that Diddy was running some kind of Epstein-type deal where he was filming everybody, right?

   8. NANarrator0:27

      That's the rumors, yeah. I don't know that there's any proof or anything, other than that ...

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      The thing is, like, we're getting the rumors from the internet.

   10. NANarrator0:34

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       And the, the internet thinks that the Taliban took out that bridge in Baltimore. (laughs) So it's like, who fucking knows? Who knows what's real?

   12. NANarrator0:42

       That's what Diddy's lawyers, I think, said was like that these are just truffed-up charges. Not truffed up, I don't think they said that, but like, like bullshit charges.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Dude, when Homeland Security invades your house-

   14. JDJoey Diaz0:52

       You got problems.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       ... with dudes with fucking guns and body armor, there's-

   16. NANarrator0:58

       I guess someone said that they weren't there to take stuff, they were there to delete everything. Like the real people that were in there, you know?

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       Oh, that's funny.

   18. NANarrator1:05

       Like what they were doing with Epstein.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Oh, that's funny.

   20. NANarrator1:06

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       That's fun- ... Of course. There's layers upon layers.

   22. NANarrator1:09

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       When you get into (laughs) these fucking conspiracy theories, man, they, they never end. They never end. There's just layers upon layers upon layers.

   24. NANarrator1:19

       It's fun to talk about.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       It is fun to talk about. It's hard to know what's true.

   26. NANarrator1:24

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       But ...

   28. NANarrator1:25

       Who knows?

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       Why ... People genuinely love it when someone like Diddy gets caught, though. The glee that people have is weird.

   30. JDJoey Diaz1:32

       Why?
2. 3:58 – 7:19

   Rolling joints, lung scares, and Joey’s medical wake-up call

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:58

      You got to concentrate. That is a skill that I never picked up, the roll-your-own skill. Never picked it up.

   2. JDJoey Diaz4:07

      Sometimes you got no choice but to pick it up.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:09

      Yeah. No, I should have.

   4. JDJoey Diaz4:10

      You're sitting there with reefer, a paper.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:11

      I admire people that do it. When I see a person that can roll a solid joint, I'm like, "That is a ... That's an exceptional person." It's like a person who could play guitar. I'm like, "Oh, you took the time."

   6. NANarrator4:22

      There's a level of skill with it too. Some people can roll some nice ones.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:25

      Oh yeah, man.

   8. NANarrator4:26

      It doesn't have to look like they were done by a machine.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:28

      I've seen dudes in Instagram driving their car, rolling with one hand.

   10. JDJoey Diaz4:31

       Rolling with one hand. That's, that's ...

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:33

       That's next level.

   12. JDJoey Diaz4:34

       Yeah, that's next level.

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:35

       That's next level. Charlie Murphy could roll a hell of a blunt. Charlie Murphy is one of those ... You know who else rolls a hell of a blunt? Luis.

   14. JDJoey Diaz4:44

       Gomez?

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:44

       Luis Gomez.

   16. JDJoey Diaz4:45

       Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:46

       Yeah, Gomez rolls a hell of a blunt, and he does it the real way. He doesn't just split the spliff and open it up and lick it. No, no, no. He takes the paper out and he makes ... you know, cuts it. Like he'll, he'll unravel a cigar and then take this t- the tobacco paper and cut it and wet it and get it down.

   18. JDJoey Diaz5:04

       I just want to want to get high.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:06

       (laughs)

   20. JDJoey Diaz5:06

       It's like freebase in Coke. I got to run it and run it through a sock.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:09

       Hey.

   22. JDJoey Diaz5:10

       And then it's got to dry. No, just give me the fucking reefer. I'd rather ... I like smoking blunts, but that's what gave me pneumonia last summer. I started smoking blunts.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:19

       Yeah?

   24. JDJoey Diaz5:20

       Sure enough, my-

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:20

       It gave you ammone- pneumonia?

   26. JDJoey Diaz5:22

       Pneumonia.

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:22

       Really?

   28. JDJoey Diaz5:22

       Pneumonia last summer.

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:24

       Do you think it's definitely from that?

   30. JDJoey Diaz5:25

       It was that and the sle- ... What was ... It was a bunch of shit. What it really was, was I had an abscess.
3. 7:19 – 12:29

   Austin food scene, comedy-club energy, and the obsessive craft of standup

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:19

      Get them healthy fats. Yeah. How good is that sushi place we went to?

   2. JDJoey Diaz7:23

      Oh, my God.

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:24

      Yuki- shout out to Yuki Hand Roll.

   4. JDJoey Diaz7:26

      Jesus Christ.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:28

      Yeah. Yeah.

   6. JDJoey Diaz7:28

      The fucking... When you got up to go to the bathroom is when he dropped my roll. I'm like, "Who's is this?"

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:32

      (laughs)

   8. JDJoey Diaz7:32

      It was just this fucking... A chunk.

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:34

      Yeah. Yeah.

   10. JDJoey Diaz7:34

       And especially now with this new economics, that sushi's getting smaller and smaller-

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:39

       It is at a lot of places.

   12. JDJoey Diaz7:40

       ... and smaller. This fucking... There was two hunks of fucking tuna there.

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:42

       Yeah. They're big.

   14. JDJoey Diaz7:43

       I'm full.

   15. JRJoe Rogan7:44

       They give you big pieces at Yuki.

   16. JDJoey Diaz7:46

       And-

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:46

       And the guy came from Nobu. Super sweet guy. Really nice guy.

   18. JDJoey Diaz7:49

       You guys have put together a hell of a fucking time. Remember, we were... We've been coming here since '98.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:54

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JDJoey Diaz7:54

       And we used to come here, we used to... Go to Pappadeaux.

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:57

       Yep.

   22. JDJoey Diaz7:58

       And, uh, well, there was only the one place we went to. The Mexican joint, Papacitos.

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:03

       Yep.

   24. JDJoey Diaz8:03

       And that's it.

   25. JRJoe Rogan8:05

       Yeah.

   26. JDJoey Diaz8:05

       And that was where we went for three fucking days. Now look what you got here.

   27. JRJoe Rogan8:08

       Yeah.

   28. JDJoey Diaz8:09

       It's like an empire of every... You guys were talking in the green room last night about all the different restaurants.

   29. JRJoe Rogan8:14

       So many people moved here.

   30. JDJoey Diaz8:14

       And you guys didn't stop.
4. 12:29 – 16:38

   Austin’s boom vs San Francisco’s decline, plus Joey’s Tenderloin and comedy-festival memories

   1. JDJoey Diaz12:29

      The other night when I got here, I got, I landed at 11:30. I got my luggage by quarter to 12:00, I walked out. When I got in that car, you should've seen that airport. It was alive at midnight.

   2. JRJoe Rogan12:41

      Yeah.

   3. JDJoey Diaz12:41

      Fucking tons of people coming into Austin. I mean, I was like, "This has changed a lot." This airport used to be a sleepy fucking hollow. Look at this motherfucker.

   4. JRJoe Rogan12:51

      Yeah, the whole town. The pandemic changed the whole town, you know, and then a lot of the tech companies moved here too. That was a big part of it. A lot of these young people just, they were, just didn't want any part of San Francisco anymore. They're like, "We gotta get the fuck outta here."

   5. JDJoey Diaz13:03

      Who would wanna live there?

   6. JRJoe Rogan13:04

      Who would wanna live there? It's dangerous, it's weird. You know, Elon was saying five of his friends have been assaulted or robbed. Five.

   7. JDJoey Diaz13:12

      You can't lock your car.

   8. JRJoe Rogan13:13

      Yeah, you gotta leave your car with a window open-

   9. JDJoey Diaz13:15

      With the windows smashed because they're gonna smash it. You know, how do you live like that?

   10. JRJoe Rogan13:18

       Yeah. You, you, you ba- they basically empowered, um, mental patients who were drug addicts to just live on the street, and shit everywhere, and harass people. And there's no sign that they're turning it around. They're just, they, they don't seem to be turning it around at all, except for when Xi Jinping came to town.

   11. JDJoey Diaz13:38

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:38

       I told them if I, if I was the mayor, I'd buy Ji Jing Ping a condo. Like, when, when, when he's in town, everything's clean. When he came to San Francisco, they, they moved all the tents, they put up fences so people couldn't put tents back up, they cleaned the streets. And Gavin Newsom was like, "Well, when you have guests come over, you clean up your house." (laughs) Like, what?

   13. JDJoey Diaz13:58

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan13:58

       What a crazy, gaslighting spin on, uh, a fact that you could have fixed this the whole time, and you chose not to until the dictator comes to town.

   15. JDJoey Diaz14:09

       (laughs) You know, in my criminal heyday, I used to move around a lot, and I ended up in San Francisco, August of '85. I was in Boulder, the cops were looking for me. And I said, "Fuck it, where do I go?" I went to the airport and I picked a spot. And I go, "What's the closest flight here leaving?" San Francisco. All right, get me to San Francisco. And I went up there, and I went right to the Tenderloin, Joe. And it was buck wild. I mean, for a New York City kid to look at you and go, "You gotta be careful down there."

   16. JRJoe Rogan14:37

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JDJoey Diaz14:38

       I still remember in 1985, they had a place called Coffee Ron's that was a topless coffee place.

   18. JRJoe Rogan14:45

       Yeah.

   19. JDJoey Diaz14:45

       With the ugliest titties-

   20. JRJoe Rogan14:46

       (laughs)

   21. JDJoey Diaz14:46

       ... you've ever seen in your fucking life in there. I mean, they weren't award-winning titties. Soggy, they looked like a puppy was gonna milk on 'em, but they had that.

   22. JRJoe Rogan14:55

       Yeah.

   23. JDJoey Diaz14:55

       And they were open 24 hours right down the block from me.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:58

       It was a wild city.

   25. JDJoey Diaz14:59

       It was wild, and up the corner were hookers for fucking miles. It-

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:05

       It had a standup scene, but it never had a standup scene like Boston or New York or LA.

   27. JDJoey Diaz15:10

       No, but it was a good standup scene.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       A solid scene.

   29. JDJoey Diaz15:12

       Yeah, they had, like-

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:12

       Robin Williams came out of there. Who else? Did Pa-
5. 16:38 – 20:12

   Cuban family music shoutouts, then a detour into muscle cars and Steven Seagal movies

   1. JRJoe Rogan16:38

      Before I forget, what is your cousin's band in Cuba? That band?

   2. JDJoey Diaz16:42

      Emmy Alfonso. Emmy.

   3. JRJoe Rogan16:45

      Emmy Alfonso?

   4. JDJoey Diaz16:46

      She got some new shit. She was just here. She came down for the last show.

   5. JRJoe Rogan16:49

      They, I wanna put him on the Spotify list.

   6. JDJoey Diaz16:51

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan16:51

      This shit is banging, but I couldn't remember.

   8. JDJoey Diaz16:54

      They came, she came here for fucking South by Southwest.

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:56

      Really?

   10. JDJoey Diaz16:56

       Yeah, she was in South and S- by Southwest.

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:58

       How do you say it? How do you spell it?

   12. JDJoey Diaz16:59

       Emmy. E-M-E-

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:01

       E-M-M-Y?

   14. JDJoey Diaz17:03

       E-M-E-

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:04

       E-M-E-

   16. JDJoey Diaz17:05

       ... A-L-F... Alfonso. A-L-F-O-N-S-O.

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:12

       Emmy Alfon- Got it, bam. There it is.

   18. JDJoey Diaz17:16

       Can you believe that's my family up there? The Instagram shot at the, at the top?

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:20

       What's a good song that I should put on the Spotify pl-

   20. JDJoey Diaz17:22

       Wow.

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:22

       ... playlist?

   22. JDJoey Diaz17:23

       That's my family, bro. That's my legitimate fucking family. That guy on the far left is my mother's brother. That's his son that owns La Factoria in Cuba, the big club where you go to. That's his sister, and that's my aunt.

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:39

       Wow.

   24. JDJoey Diaz17:40

       That dude is 80 years old and he's still a musician, plays congas.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:44

       Wow.

   26. JDJoey Diaz17:45

       You know, the whole fucking thing. Emmy lives in... No, Ecky, the guy with the dreads, my cousin, he lives, like, in fucking Germany or some shit.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:54

       Really?

   28. JDJoey Diaz17:54

       Yeah, he don't even go to Cuba. He goes to Cuba to pick up a check or something like that.

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:57

       Are you, is he allowed to go in and out? You could-

   30. JDJoey Diaz18:00

       He's a band member.
6. 20:12 – 28:27

   Instagram’s “Explore” rabbit hole: OnlyFans funnels, dating scams, and fake JRE invites

   1. JRJoe Rogan20:12

      I don't wanna see it either, but Tom Segura thinks I do. Every day, we freak each other out. I find the worst shit that I see on Instagram... By the way, Instagram is wild right now. I mean, buck wild with murder and animal attacks and bombs exploding on people and terrorist attacks and riots, and it's like, you can find everything on Instagram now. And these are accounts that I don't even follow. So they know my brain is a mess. So they're just sending me the, the most horrible shit, and I just get it all day long. I saved one just for you.

   2. JDJoey Diaz20:50

      How do... The only f- we could, we could watch it. The only fucking thing that amazes me about Instagram, I don't know what's going on, but if you go to, like, look, this section here, w- will you break it down for me?

   3. JRJoe Rogan21:03

      Yeah. The Explore section? Like, the one here?

   4. JDJoey Diaz21:05

      This, the Search? Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan21:06

      Uh-huh.

   6. JDJoey Diaz21:06

      That there.

   7. JRJoe Rogan21:07

      Yeah.

   8. JDJoey Diaz21:07

      I still can't put together wh- these women. Are they hookers? Are they just showing their bodies?

   9. JRJoe Rogan21:13

      First of all, some of them might, they're... Look at this one.

   10. JDJoey Diaz21:16

       Yeah, that one.

   11. JRJoe Rogan21:16

       Yeah.

   12. JDJoey Diaz21:16

       Like that. What are they doing?

   13. JRJoe Rogan21:18

       They got fake babies. They got fake babies. So they pull their tits out to breastfeed fake babies. So it's like a hack. So they can...

   14. GUGuest (secondary, unnamed)21:25

       Link in bio.

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:25

       What's that? Link in bio, yeah. You go in that bio, bam, and then there's a, it's, it's probably an OnlyFans. And, let's see, 18+, yes we are.

   16. GUGuest (secondary, unnamed)21:36

       All right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan21:36

       (laughs) And then...

   18. JDJoey Diaz21:38

       Wow.

   19. JRJoe Rogan21:39

       ... love me, it's a different one.

   20. GUGuest (secondary, unnamed)21:40

       That's a summer, I'm gonna get trapped in there fucking-

   21. JRJoe Rogan21:41

       Oh, it's a dating. Oh, you're done, you're done. You have a, a virus on your computer right now. We need to blow up that computer. We'll take that computer to the range, fill it full of lead. (laughs) It's like... So they just rope you in. They get lonely, lost guys, and they see this girl breastfeeding a rubber baby, and, uh, they dump... I mean, that's how Andrew Tate made all his money.

   22. GUGuest (secondary, unnamed)22:02

       How many are there on this page, though?

   23. JRJoe Rogan22:03

       Coming in hot. Bunch of titties.

   24. GUGuest (secondary, unnamed)22:05

       There's lots of them.

   25. JRJoe Rogan22:06

       Lots of titties.

   26. JDJoey Diaz22:07

       Then they got the other girls that flip the camera around and show their monkey and then show their face.

   27. JRJoe Rogan22:12

       Yeah.

   28. JDJoey Diaz22:12

       And I can't figure out what the fuck that's about either.

   29. JRJoe Rogan22:14

       (laughs)

   30. GUGuest (secondary, unnamed)22:15

       Dude.
7. 28:27 – 37:49

   What “intelligence” really means: IQ limits, street smarts, and raising resilient kids

   1. JRJoe Rogan28:27

      prison and needs the victim to send him money so he can bribe his way out. Wow. Interesting. There's always been people like that. But you know what the problem is? The problem is the ave- like, there are people in this country... What did, what was the number that we, we Googled that have a IQ lower than 85? It's pretty high.

   2. GUGuest (secondary, unnamed)28:50

      It's like 15%.

   3. JRJoe Rogan28:51

      15%. So imagine, 15% of people that you could basically trick with anything. Get them to join a cult, get them to sign up for some fucking telemarketing swindle.

   4. JDJoey Diaz29:01

      You think it's IQ or do you think it's...

   5. JRJoe Rogan29:04

      IQ is interesting, right? Because IQ doesn't necessarily mean intelligence 'cause it depends upon your education. 'Cause some of, uh, the questions in IQ tests are predicated on, uh, a knowledge of math and understanding of, like, how to do equations and certain things that you learn in school. But there's intelligence that is social intelligence, intelligence in terms of being able to see what the problems are in a certain choice you make or what the up benefits are of, of a different choice. There's like, there's people that are strategizers and they're really good at, like, business, they're really good at s- figuring people out, they're really good at figuring themselves out. Sta- there's, there's, there's an intelligence to that. So the problem with IQ, in my mind, is I know a lot of people with very high IQs, but their life is a clumsy mess. So it's like, it really is dependent upon what is the mental horsepower you have? And how are you applying that mental horsepower? Are you Gary Clark Jr and applying that mental horsepower to music?... and you're a genius, but you're a genius in music? Or are you Lex Fridman and you're making, you know, artificial intelligence and working with coding robots? Are you Elon Musk? You're making spaceships. Like, what are you doing with this intelligence? So IQ, (sighs) the, the, there's limitations of it, but at least it's an indicator of how smart a person is. It's an indicator. It's not the pr- it's not the only indicator. There's other factors that I think are much more intangible. They're much harder to, to measure and weigh. That's my take on it. I think it means something.

   6. JDJoey Diaz30:53

      I think if your parents opened up your eyes, something... Y- you know, it's like I do that bit, and it's true, I really do... I'm mad at my guidance counselor.

   7. JRJoe Rogan31:03

      Hmm.

   8. JDJoey Diaz31:04

      I really am, deep down inside, because, you know, he was telling you all about all these job possibilities and college possibilities. But you know what he forgot to tell us? About New York being right across the river and all the possibilities you had over there. I wouldn't have d- I would've done this shit earlier.

   9. JRJoe Rogan31:20

      You mean standup?

   10. JDJoey Diaz31:21

       Everything.

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       Yeah.

   12. JDJoey Diaz31:22

       I would've tried anything earlier.

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:23

       The thing is, no one's ever gonna advise that you take the riskiest chance in show business. No one's ever gonna advise that you-

   14. JDJoey Diaz31:32

       I didn't wanna be a show business guy, but I wish he would've told me. You know, if you wanna take acting lessons, you go to the city.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:37

       That's show business.

   16. JDJoey Diaz31:37

       I didn't know. I didn't know that fucking-

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:40

       Right.

   18. JDJoey Diaz31:40

       ... when I'd watch a movie, I thought you just walked on the fucking thing and they gave you a part. That's how stupid I was when I was young.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:45

       It's not stupid. It's uninformed, right?

   20. JDJoey Diaz31:47

       I thought when, when a standup did a special, I thought he just showed up-

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:51

       (laughs)

   22. JDJoey Diaz31:52

       ... and had a camera and he goes, "I'm ready."

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:54

       Right.

   24. JDJoey Diaz31:54

       And tha- that's what I thought. I didn't think any-

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:55

       Yeah.

   26. JDJoey Diaz31:56

       You know, I didn't really know. I'm mad that he didn't open up... I see the kids I grew up with. You gotta see the people around you.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:02

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JDJoey Diaz32:03

       And some of us saw some things and some of us didn't. Some of us saw a, a path that was different than just getting a job and working 40 years and getting a watch, you know?

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:14

       Uh-huh.

   30. JDJoey Diaz32:14

       I don't think they opened up our minds to that stuff. Like, there was-
8. 37:49 – 49:16

   Charity skepticism and fundraiser economics: where the donation money goes

   1. JDJoey Diaz37:49

      Look, I'm even like ... And I hate to say this in public, but I'm down on like fucking charities and shit.

   2. JRJoe Rogan37:56

      Well, that's-

   3. JDJoey Diaz37:56

      'Cause they don't get the fucking money either, unless you donate to Saint Jude or something like that. Th- th- you know, some guy's driving a BMW.

   4. JRJoe Rogan38:03

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JDJoey Diaz38:03

      And the people I sent the money to, ugh, you know. And it's happened to us. We saw it, we gave money and-

   6. JRJoe Rogan38:09

      Uh-huh.

   7. JDJoey Diaz38:09

      ... nothing happens. And you're like-

   8. JRJoe Rogan38:10

      Yeah.

   9. JDJoey Diaz38:10

      ... "What the fuck, guys?" So now you just give it direct. Have you ever-

   10. JRJoe Rogan38:13

       You want to know how seeing those charts that show, like, what the, the, the money give, give to charity, how much actually goes to the cause? How much of it is just overhead? It's, in some places-

   11. JDJoey Diaz38:25

       It's ridiculous.

   12. JRJoe Rogan38:25

       ... it's like 90%.

   13. JDJoey Diaz38:26

       It's ridiculous. I used-

   14. JRJoe Rogan38:27

       So it's like 10% of the money goes to the charity. It's a very inefficient thing. And then you have things where the people that are running it are making enormous salaries. And then they're t- Like, look at the Black Lives Matter thing where the, the girls were buying $6 million houses. Like what the fuck are you doing? What the fuck are you doing? What are you doing? They're like, "Oh, we use this for, uh, uh, uh, y- y- events." (laughs) It's just, that happens with so many charities and so many, uh, charitable organizations. And then there's charitable organizations, like there's foundations that are set up just as tax breaks. So there's like tax breaks involved if you have a foundation that's a charitable foundation that works towards good causes, like maybe climate change or maybe, you know, something along those lines, health, you know, the global health. And then you get involved in that and it's a nice way to avoid paying taxes. You move money around, you put money in the foundation, you kind of move it around. You know, it's these guys that are involved in charitable organizations, the, the thought behind it is beautiful. Like, wouldn't it be great if people donated all this money to charity and we could fix a lot of things? But what you're really doing in a lot of ways is you're pumping up the business of these charities and then they pump up their advertising revenue, they pump up their social media profile, their campaigns, their this, their that. And then they get co-opted. They get co-opted by companies, corporations, pharmaceutical companies, (laughs) different mandates and narratives that they'd like to promote. And next thing you know, charitable organizations are a part of the propaganda machine and it's all being funded by enormous amounts of money. And most of that money does not go to the actual cause itself.

   15. JDJoey Diaz40:15

       It sucks.

   16. JRJoe Rogan40:15

       Have you ever seen the charts?

   17. JDJoey Diaz40:17

       I ... See, don't-

   18. JRJoe Rogan40:18

       Pull, pull up a chart of what-

   19. JDJoey Diaz40:19

       I-

   20. JRJoe Rogan40:19

       ... where the money goes. Try to find out where the m- See if there's a good chart that shows like-

   21. JDJoey Diaz40:24

       When I was-

   22. JRJoe Rogan40:25

       ... various, like Red Cross, all these different ones.

   23. JDJoey Diaz40:26

       I bumped into a nun once when I was going to Catholic school and she told me that when people are looking for you for help, like when they're on the side of the street and they're asking you for help, that that could be Jesus in disguise. So it fucked my world up.

   24. JRJoe Rogan40:38

       Mm.

   25. JDJoey Diaz40:38

       So I started donating as a kid. The first person I donated to was the Black kid with the flies on him that they sent you the picture.

   26. JRJoe Rogan40:45

       Yeah, Silas Struthers.

   27. JDJoey Diaz40:46

       And he wrote, he wrote a letter and, uh-

   28. JRJoe Rogan40:48

       Kinnison had that bit about it.

   29. JDJoey Diaz40:49

       And then I never got nothing after that.

   30. JRJoe Rogan40:51

       (laughs)
9. 49:16 – 55:00

   Migration, Red Cross safety maps, Mariel boatlift parallels, and Europe’s deportation unrest

   1. JRJoe Rogan49:16

      The Red Cross seems like a good one. But also, wasn't the Red Cross one of the people that was helping people map out the way to illegally enter the US? Wasn't that, uh, one of the things that the Red Cross was doing? Google that. But that could be also that the Red Cross is a legitimate charitable organization and it realizes that these people are gonna do this no matter what, and show them the way to do it that's safe. If they're gonna do it, they're gonna do it. I mean-

   2. JDJoey Diaz49:45

      They're gonna do it.

   3. JRJoe Rogan49:45

      ... showing them the way that's safe, to me, seems like, you know, like almost an ethical thing to do if you know that this is happening. And then providing them aid along the way so they don't die, that seems like... You know. The whole immigration thing is very complicated, you know. You came from immigrants, I came from immigrants or my grandparents were immigrants. But it's just the way they're doing it, where anybody can get through is so (laughs) wild. So the Red Cross has provided maps to migrants, uh, traveling towards the US border. Now what is their reasoning? Is the Red Cross giving maps to migrants? The map on their social media is real. Different versions have existed since at least 2018 and some have been distributed by the International Committee of the Red Cross. The ICRC is a consortium of Red Cross agencies including the American Red Cross. The map is a part of an informational safety pamphlet provided by aid organizations including the National Red Cross Societies to migrants traveling to Central America. The pamphlet also includes resource information like where to find food, shelter, and medical assistance. While the map has been around since at least 2018, American Red Cross partnered with the Mexican Red Cross and others during the COVID-19 pandemic to prom- to promote these safety materials. The Red Cross logos appeared across the top of the map. The American Red Cross logo was removed in 2022 after their COVID-19 partnership expired. The current pamphlet containing the map shows the current partners or the National Red Cross Societies of Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador. It does not seek to encourage or discourage migration but rather to contribute to migrating the vulnerability f- mitigating the vulnerability factors of this population during the migratory route. That's what we're saying.

   4. JDJoey Diaz51:42

      I can live with that, Joe.

   5. JRJoe Rogan51:42

      I can live with that, too.

   6. JDJoey Diaz51:42

      I can live with that. That's fair.

   7. JRJoe Rogan51:43

      Yeah, that's not encouraging people to do it, that's saying they're doing it, let's, let's make it so they at least... They have, like, a safe way to do it.

   8. JDJoey Diaz51:50

      Listen, man. It, this migrant situation has turned everything around. From New York City, Chicago, LA-

   9. JRJoe Rogan51:57

      Yeah.

   10. JDJoey Diaz51:58

       ... they're in everywhere, you know. And yeah, tax money in New York is giving you $10,000 now on ATM card, right? They give you $10,000 for your migrant.

   11. JRJoe Rogan52:06

       Something along those lines, yeah.

   12. JDJoey Diaz52:08

       You know, and, and... I don't know.

   13. JRJoe Rogan52:11

       Um-

   14. JDJoey Diaz52:11

       There's a lot to say, like, you know, look at our fucking vets, how they get treated, look, you know.

   15. JRJoe Rogan52:18

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JDJoey Diaz52:19

       So-

   17. JRJoe Rogan52:20

       I'm gonna send you this, Jamie. See what's going on in Paris? They, uh, they started... They were trying to kick these dudes out, uh, of the country and they started a riot at the airport. (laughs)

   18. JDJoey Diaz52:30

       Who were they trying to kick out?

   19. JRJoe Rogan52:32

       Uh, illegal immigrants. I'll show you. Jamie, I just sent it to you. Yeah, and they're like, "No, we're not going." They're like, "You have to go, there's too many of you." They're like, "No, fuck you, we're not flying," and they started a riot at the airport. They were trying to deport them. And they're like, "Uh-uh, we're here." (laughs)

   20. JDJoey Diaz52:50

       Listen, all I remember is one thing, Joe, and I used this and I'm not saying nothing bad about anybody. I was-

   21. JRJoe Rogan52:55

       Look at this. Give me the volume.

   22. NANarrator52:57

       (people shouting)

   23. JRJoe Rogan53:01

       It's a full on donnybrook at the airport. They're beating up attendants, security guys are getting fucked up.

   24. NANarrator53:20

       (people shouting)

   25. JRJoe Rogan53:20

       (laughs) It's just wild shit, man.

   26. JDJoey Diaz53:22

       So they got them over there too?

   27. JRJoe Rogan53:24

       They're try-... Yeah, they have a lot, a lot, a lot of migrants in Europe. Yeah, it's, uh, it's basically it happened right after the pandemic in mass. It just... Massive amounts of migrants in Europe, massive amounts of migrants here. It's almost like it's on purpose. If it's not on purpose, what a coincidence.

   28. JDJoey Diaz53:45

       But it just-

   29. JRJoe Rogan53:45

       (laughs)

   30. JDJoey Diaz53:46

       It seemed like there just wasn't migrants coming in but what I was telling you before was, I think I told you last time, I saw what the Mariel boatlift did to my area, Hudson County. Not in 1979, but I saw it five years later, and then I saw what they were doing in San Francisco. When I got to San Francisco in '95, there was a huge Cuban population. When they were d-
10. 55:00 – 1:01:19

    Border-security anxieties and Chinese grow-ops: legal weed meets trafficking and forced labor

    1. JDJoey Diaz55:00

       The Chinese are coming in-

    2. JRJoe Rogan55:01

       Mm-hmm.

    3. JDJoey Diaz55:01

       And now they're growing weed.

    4. JRJoe Rogan55:03

       Are they? Chinese?

    5. JDJoey Diaz55:05

       Jamie, go to the videotape.

    6. JRJoe Rogan55:07

       (laughs)

    7. JDJoey Diaz55:08

       Chinese are buying farms. You just had somebody on here that was talking about the Chinese are buying farms here.

    8. JRJoe Rogan55:15

       Yes, they're definitely buying farms.

    9. JDJoey Diaz55:16

       What do you think they're doing with those fucking farms? Raising fucking sushi? No.

    10. JRJoe Rogan55:21

        (laughs)

    11. JDJoey Diaz55:21

        They're fucking growing reefer.

    12. JRJoe Rogan55:23

        Department of Homeland Security memo, first reported by the Daily Caller, received as a part of the Freedom of Information Act request, said that more than 270 unlicensed cannabis cultivation sites in Maine were operated by Chinese nationals.

    13. JDJoey Diaz55:37

        Who the fuck you think you're dealing with, Joe? Bananas.

    14. JRJoe Rogan55:39

        Wow. 275 grow-ops in Maine?

    15. JDJoey Diaz55:42

        (coughs) And the weed is on fire up there in New Hampshire.

    16. JRJoe Rogan55:46

        Is it?

    17. JDJoey Diaz55:46

        New H- they say that's the best weed right now, New Hampshire.

    18. JRJoe Rogan55:49

        Really? New Hampshire?

    19. JDJoey Diaz55:51

        Somewhere up there. New Hampshire, Maine.

    20. JRJoe Rogan55:53

        Maine?

    21. JDJoey Diaz55:53

        They say the weed is so fucking strong.

    22. JRJoe Rogan55:56

        Mm. Hmm.

    23. JDJoey Diaz56:01

        See that?

    24. JRJoe Rogan56:02

        Look at that.

    25. JDJoey Diaz56:03

        Yeah. They're growing fucking reefer.

    26. JRJoe Rogan56:05

        So what is the legalization of weed in Maine? Is it legal there?

    27. JDJoey Diaz56:11

        Not sure, brother. Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan56:12

        It's legal in so many states now.

    29. JDJoey Diaz56:14

        Yeah. Yeah. Maine, New Hampshire, I think.

    30. JRJoe Rogan56:18

        How much cannabis can I possess? Adults 21 years of age or older can possess up to 2.5 ounces of a combination of cannabis, cannabis concentrate, and cannabis products, including no more than five grams of cannabis concentrate. How many plants can I grow? Mainers can grow cannabis for personal use. That's reasonable. (phone ringing) Is that your phone?
11. 1:01:19 – 1:21:01

    Trump, liquidity, contractor disputes, and New York construction’s mob-era mechanics

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       Right. The, the whole thing ... (sighs) I'm not a financial guy, obviously, but I think it ... The whole thing is liquidity. How much money are y- do you actually have coming in? And how much is it tied up in real estate investments and holdings? And Trump's got buildings and hotels and resorts and da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. It's a lot, lot going on. How the fuck can he pay attention to all that shit? Can you imagine running some kind of a business empire trying to pay attention to everything?

    2. JDJoey Diaz1:01:47

       Dog, I met him when he was fucking had a football team.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:01:50

       Really?

    4. JDJoey Diaz1:01:50

       Yeah. He owned the fucking Generals. That's how I knew Herschel Walker and those people. That's how I met those dudes.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:01:57

       When was this?

    6. JDJoey Diaz1:01:58

       Fucking '85. Trump owned the-

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:01:59

       You met Trump in '85?

    8. JDJoey Diaz1:02:00

       A long time ago.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:02:01

       What was he like in '85?

    10. JDJoey Diaz1:02:02

        Hello. Goodbye. I don't fucking know. It's not like we hung out.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:02:05

        Mm-hmm.

    12. JDJoey Diaz1:02:06

        I was scared of him.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:02:08

        Why?

    14. JDJoey Diaz1:02:08

        Because it was like a ... I told you when I got outta jail, I was supposed to have a job selling siding and doors and saddles and electrical equipment, an indoor salesman in Jersey. And when I got outta prison, I go, "I'm out. Can I come take the job now?" And he goes, "I can't. We're going outta business." And I go, "What happened?" He goes, "Trump put in a ... Built something. He was going to these little hardware stores like ours, told us to go fuck ourselves. We're done." I knew this in '88.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:02:38

        What do you mean?

    16. JDJoey Diaz1:02:40

        (sighs) At that time, supposedly he would build something. It's like, it's like you coming to somebody, uh, at his little restaurant and going, "I wanna build my own fucking steak." And you know, he would go to people and say, "I'm gonna build this and then use your lumber." Or whatever the fuck.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:02:57

        Mm-hmm.

    18. JDJoey Diaz1:02:57

        And since there's so much with contractors, there's subcontractors and subcontractors, they would stiff their bills. They weren't paying their bills.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:03:05

        Really?

    20. JDJoey Diaz1:03:06

        Yeah. This went on in our life. You can look it up. This isn't something ... You know. And that's all I remember from Trump. I met him in '85 and I fucking ... That was my only thing with Trump. You know, if you're from New York, you know who he is. You've been hearing the name growing up.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:03:22

        Yeah, I remember hearing about this from you actually now. You were telling me that there was a ... With contractors.

    22. JDJoey Diaz1:03:29

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:03:30

        Stiff small contractors.

    24. JDJoey Diaz1:03:31

        Small contractors and then we would go downhill.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:03:33

        Hmm.

    26. JDJoey Diaz1:03:34

        You know, we'd run downhill. So, now I gave you all the doors I had for your project. Trump just wasn't building one house with one window. I'm giving you everything on the arm. Yeah, you gave me a deposit. Maybe sometimes not. Maybe I'm so excited to do business with Trump, I got such a small place that I forget everything. You know, whatever the fuck happens.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:03:54

        Yeah.

    28. JDJoey Diaz1:03:56

        Yeah. So that's what happened in '88. I, I mean, I don't know the whole story, but he mentioned Trump. That's all I remember from that fucking guy.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:04:04

        Hmm. I would also imagine if you're doing some big projects like that, there's probably a lot of people involved.

    30. JDJoey Diaz1:04:10

        Lot of people.

Episode duration: 2:59:15