Joe Rogan Experience #2132 - Andrew Schulz

1. 0:00 – 1:29

   CIA mindset, charm, and “near-sociopath” advantages

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Like, I think of, I think he has that, that CIA guy on with the hair.

   4. ASAndrew Schulz0:16

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      You know? And, uh-

   6. ASAndrew Schulz0:18

      What do you think of that guy?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      So after the pod- (snaps fingers)

   8. ASAndrew Schulz0:23

      I guess we're up. Let's go.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      You wanna go?

   10. ASAndrew Schulz0:25

       We're rolling.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Let's do it.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz0:26

       Let's go.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Okay, so, um, he came on, and he was very, like, forthco- first of all, he's very charming, but like, when you're talking to anybody who's worked for the CIA, you're looking at him through the same lens as you look at, like, a therapist.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz0:38

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Where it's like, "Wait, are you analyzing? Like, what's going on?"

   16. ASAndrew Schulz0:40

       Right, "What's going on here?"

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Very charming, very smart, very, like, seems to really know what's going on in the world, but like, straight up told us, he's like, "Yeah, the CIA, you know, I guess one of the advantages I have is like I'm pretty close to a sociopath. Like, I'm not there, but like I don't, I don't feel the same emotions that everybody feels. There's like a lack of guilt, but I know when I should feel it in these moments."

   18. ASAndrew Schulz1:03

       Whoa.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       But that's a huge advantage. Imagine if you're trying to, like, find assets and flip assets.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz1:08

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       If you and I, like, build a relationship with somebody and we, like, feel empathy for them-

   22. ASAndrew Schulz1:12

       Right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       ... maybe we wouldn't be able to say, "Hey, now it's time for you to cough up the information or else."

   24. ASAndrew Schulz1:18

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       But somebody else in that position might, so I would imagine if you were at the fucking CIA, you're like, "Okay, we're looking for people who have gone through these things in their life that'll- that have curated this kind of, like, personality type."

2. 1:29 – 5:04

   Diddy raids, internet spectacle, and the Saucy Santana clip

   1. ASAndrew Schulz1:29

      Well, isn't it just, like, part of the gig? Like, here- here's a for instance. Like, your bit about Puffy. (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:40

      (laughs) How are you gonna connect these two fucking dots?

   3. ASAndrew Schulz1:43

      You're- y- y- that bit is, like, look, you don't have any real personal beef with Diddy.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:50

      Mm-mm.

   5. ASAndrew Schulz1:50

      But it's gotta go down. The- the- the bits are there. I'm a gold miner. I just found some gold.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:56

      You're right, maybe I'm a sociopath.

   7. ASAndrew Schulz1:58

      It's not that you're a sociopath. It's just that that's part of the gig.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:02

      Yes.

   9. ASAndrew Schulz2:02

      Like, you're not a sociopath with your friends.

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:04

       No, I think I'm maybe an empath.

   11. ASAndrew Schulz2:07

       Yes.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:07

       But I guess it's one of those things where, like, you justify, you go, "Okay, if there's a- I think this person might've done something bad."

   13. ASAndrew Schulz2:14

       Yes.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:14

       And he can get jokes, and we're all gonna tell jokes.

   15. ASAndrew Schulz2:18

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:18

       I'm not pressing fucking charges.

   17. ASAndrew Schulz2:19

       Well, not only that, you're not the guy who's out there, like, calling the New York Times, "Hey, you know what I heard about Diddy?"

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:24

       "By the way," yeah.

   19. ASAndrew Schulz2:25

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:25

       Yeah.

   21. ASAndrew Schulz2:26

       Exactly.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:26

       Yeah, yeah.

   23. ASAndrew Schulz2:26

       You're just like, it's there.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:29

       Yes, yes, yes, yes.

   25. ASAndrew Schulz2:29

       I mean, it's not just there. It's everywhere. My fucking newsfeed is dominated by it.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:33

       Yes.

   27. ASAndrew Schulz2:34

       Fox News, CNN-

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:36

       Yeah, yeah.

   29. ASAndrew Schulz2:36

       ... everyone. There's raids at Diddy's house.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:39

       Yeah, yeah.
3. 5:04 – 8:09

   The old rap-tour reality: “checking in,” street power, and legitimacy

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:04

      The music business, it's a lot of people.

   2. ASAndrew Schulz5:06

      It's not just the music business. It's like, it's the extortion business.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:11

      Well, that's, yeah, I mean, the, the rap game was crazy. That's a lot- a thing a lot of people don't realize is, like, back in the day, especially, like, early rap game, you weren't just going to play at, you know, what's the- a random theater that you would play in LA? What's, like, a big theater?

   4. ASAndrew Schulz5:25

      Right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:25

      I'm trying to think. The Orpheum or something like that.

   6. ASAndrew Schulz5:27

      Wiltern.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:28

      The Wiltern. Some guys were explaining to me, it was like, you would play at the local hood club. There was, like, a hood club that you could perform at, and then that was owned by the local drug dealer that was washing money there.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz5:40

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:41

      So this is where the idea of, like, checking in comes from. Have you heard of this term?

   10. ASAndrew Schulz5:44

       Yes.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:44

       Like, checking in was basically like, hey, I wanna make sure we're good because you're gonna pay me, and if I don't check in, you might rob me because you're putting me up at the hotel, and you know everything that's going on.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz5:57

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:57

       And you're a drug dealer.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz5:58

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:58

       So you don't play by the rules.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz5:59

       Right, when you come to Houston, you're checking in with certain people.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:02

       Mr. Prince.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz6:03

       Yes, sir.

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:04

       Mr. Prince.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz6:05

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:05

       You don't gotta check in, Joe.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz6:07

       You gotta check in, say hi?

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:08

       Joe don't gotta check in.

   24. ASAndrew Schulz6:08

       I'm not in the- that business.

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:10

       (laughs)

   26. ASAndrew Schulz6:10

       I say hi.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:12

       You've had him on here, right?

   28. ASAndrew Schulz6:13

       Yeah. Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:14

       He's a legend in the game.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz6:15

       He's a legend. Out of respect, I say hi.
4. 8:09 – 10:56

   Epstein fallout and the Mark Middleton death: power, surveillance, and silence

   1. ASAndrew Schulz8:09

      Yeah, and it should be, because listen, all this shit that's going on right now in the world, in America, we get so soft and we think none of that shit's gonna happen here.

   2. JRJoe Rogan8:20

      Mm-hmm.

   3. ASAndrew Schulz8:20

      All that murder, war, drones, assassinations, that's not gonna happen here.

   4. JRJoe Rogan8:26

      Mm-hmm.

   5. ASAndrew Schulz8:27

      Unless you know the Clintons.

   6. JRJoe Rogan8:28

      Yes.

   7. ASAndrew Schulz8:29

      Unless you know some shit.

   8. JRJoe Rogan8:30

      Yes.

   9. ASAndrew Schulz8:31

      Unless you know some shit about old Bill. And then you wind up shooting yourself in the chest while hanging from an extension cord.

   10. JRJoe Rogan8:37

       Wait, did that happen?

   11. ASAndrew Schulz8:38

       Oh, yeah, you don't know that guy?

   12. JRJoe Rogan8:40

       Shot himself in the ch-

   13. ASAndrew Schulz8:41

       This is a guy-

   14. JRJoe Rogan8:41

       Joe, that seems really hard to do.

   15. ASAndrew Schulz8:42

       With a shotgun. This is a-

   16. JRJoe Rogan8:44

       Yeah, how do you do such a thing?

   17. ASAndrew Schulz8:45

       ... while you're hanging. This is a guy that brought Epstein to the White House-

   18. JRJoe Rogan8:50

       Mm-hmm.

   19. ASAndrew Schulz8:51

       ... at least seven times.

   20. JRJoe Rogan8:53

       What's his name?

   21. ASAndrew Schulz8:55

       Uh, we'll find out. So they found him at a ranch 30 minutes from his house, hanging by an electrical cord from a tree with a shotgun wound to the chest. Shotgun discovered near the body of former Clinton aide, Mark Middleton, and then they called it a suicide.

   22. JRJoe Rogan9:12

       Wow.

   23. ASAndrew Schulz9:13

       12-gauge shotgun was 30 feet from the body of Mark Middleton was he found dead.

   24. JRJoe Rogan9:17

       Okay, so who, who... Okay, who orchestrates this? Is this, is this the same thing where... Does, does Clinton go, "Hey, this guy needs to go," or do the powers that be around a powerful person go, "We already know what needs to happen"?

   25. ASAndrew Schulz9:34

       Well, I think they know if a dude, uh, is in contact with someone or has been talking, or is about to talk.

   26. JRJoe Rogan9:42

       You mean cooperating with the feds-

   27. ASAndrew Schulz9:43

       Yes.

   28. JRJoe Rogan9:44

       ... or something like that?

   29. ASAndrew Schulz9:44

       I, I don't think any of those guys have clean phones. I don't think any of those guys don't have their houses bugged. I don't think any of those guys aren't tracked.

   30. JRJoe Rogan9:52

       Look how excited that guy is in the back.
5. 10:56 – 13:28

   Diddy allegations, freak-off rumors, and “Caligula” excess

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:56

      I mean, that's what, that's what people are saying, and maybe, you know, everybody's a conspiracy theorist now, but that's what people are saying about the Diddy situation, like when the D- when the, when the feds rolled up, you know, with the fucking Hummers and shit, they were like, "It wasn't about Diddy. It was about if there were tapes of powerful people there."

   2. ASAndrew Schulz11:13

      Yeah. Oh, sure.

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:14

      They were the ones that called, they were like, "I need to protect myself, so go in there with all the things and rip any tapes or any evidence."

   4. ASAndrew Schulz11:20

      Well, Prince Harry was hanging with Diddy.

   5. JRJoe Rogan11:23

      I mean, everybody hung with Diddy. That's the other tricky thing.

   6. ASAndrew Schulz11:25

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan11:25

      Like, Diddy hung out with everybody.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz11:26

      That is the thing.

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:26

      And I've spoken to a bunch of people who are like, "Yo, great dude, like always there for you, never asked for a single thing."

   10. ASAndrew Schulz11:32

       Till 1:00 in the morning.

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:33

       And then-

   12. ASAndrew Schulz11:34

       And then-

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:34

       ... the freak-off begins.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz11:35

       ... everybody says, "Get out of the house."

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:37

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz11:38

       It's like the gremlins start eating after midnight.

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:43

       (laughs) Yeah. (laughs)

   18. ASAndrew Schulz11:45

       (laughs) Everybody who tells the story is like, "I saw... I go upstairs and these dudes are fucking."

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:49

       Yeah.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz11:49

       "Like right on the couch."

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:50

       Yeah.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz11:50

       "And then I go in this room and these guys are fucking." And it's like-

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:53

       Yeah. And pros, like apparently he was getting male gigolos to fuck girls. That-

   24. ASAndrew Schulz12:00

       To fuck girls?

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:01

       Yeah, that's the... That was one of the rumors, like the freak-off.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz12:03

       Male gigolos?

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:03

       So he would hire the professional dicks to have sex with the girls, and I think he would watch allegedly. That's, that's what was alleged, I think. Yeah, there's a lot of crazy stuff going on. And that's the other thing, like I wonder, like...... is that just a power thing?

   28. ASAndrew Schulz12:18

       It's a Caligula thing.

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:19

       What does that mean?

   30. ASAndrew Schulz12:20

       Caligula, like the, the emperor. Did you ever see that movie, Caligula?
6. 13:28 – 20:31

   Success, entitlement, and managing toxic people in comedy circles

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:28

      Have you ever met somebody in our business that, like, before they were popping, they were kind of a dick, and then once they became very successful, they were the biggest dick? And you're like, "You were always gonna be this way. You just didn't have the power to-"

   2. ASAndrew Schulz13:44

      I don't know too many-

   3. JRJoe Rogan13:45

      "... project it on people."

   4. ASAndrew Schulz13:45

      ... people in our business that are succ- that are really successful, like your level or my level-

   5. JRJoe Rogan13:50

      Yeah.

   6. ASAndrew Schulz13:50

      ... that are dicks.

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:51

      Yeah, yeah. Let me think about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there, there are people maybe that feel they should be at a higher level and are not.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz14:01

      They feel that they can kind of boss people around-

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:04

      Yeah.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz14:04

       ... or throw their weight around to their assistant or their agents or-

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:07

       Yeah.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz14:07

       ... maybe they yell when they shouldn't yell, or don't have to yell, or are demeaning to certain people.

   13. JRJoe Rogan14:13

       That bothers me though.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz14:14

       Oh, I hate it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan14:15

       It real- Yeah.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz14:15

       I don't like it at all.

   17. JRJoe Rogan14:16

       Especially when you're demeaning to the people that can't... (smacks lips)

   18. ASAndrew Schulz14:19

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan14:19

       ... can't really do anything. They could quit-

   20. ASAndrew Schulz14:21

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:21

       ... of course, but, like, this is their opportunity.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz14:22

       Right. And then they feel terrible and for no reason, when the same exact situation could be handled with a hug.

   23. JRJoe Rogan14:27

       Yeah.

   24. ASAndrew Schulz14:28

       Yeah. You can tell them that you appreciate them, you hold their hand, you shake their hand, you give them a hug.

   25. JRJoe Rogan14:33

       Yeah.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz14:33

       And then everybody feels good.

   27. JRJoe Rogan14:34

       Yeah.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz14:35

       Yeah, that should be what you, the goal is. Like, you're the guy who is in this very unique, unusual situation, and you have the ability to make everybody feel better.

   29. JRJoe Rogan14:44

       Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz14:45

       Except, until you don't. Until there's some people that you just gotta get rid of. There's some people that are just feel entitled, and they don't feel like... There's certain things that do happen around certain successful people. You'll see they have a few people that have resentment that are around them that realize, like, "Oh, I'm a support person, and I only have so much room that I can climb."
7. 20:31 – 26:14

   The Huberman hit piece: anonymous accusations and pharma/media incentives

   1. JRJoe Rogan20:31

      Speaking of.

   2. ASAndrew Schulz20:32

      Mm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan20:32

      Speaking of psycho, speaking of, of, of people that are potentially bad-

   4. ASAndrew Schulz20:36

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan20:37

      ... that do not have your good, uh, good i- interests at, at heart and will take advantage of you and maybe are pathological in their desires to crush.

   6. ASAndrew Schulz20:48

      So, we're talk- talking about Andrew Huberman's situation?

   7. JRJoe Rogan20:51

      His situation, not Huberman.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz20:52

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan20:52

      Yeah.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz20:53

       So, one of the things that was left out of that article-

   11. JRJoe Rogan20:57

       People know, I assume, everybody here knows exactly what happened to-

   12. ASAndrew Schulz20:59

       So, there's an article that Andrew Huberman and X got ahold of a reporter and said that he's a f- philanderer, he's doing all these terrible things, he's a bad guy.

   13. JRJoe Rogan21:10

       Yeah.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz21:10

       And so they write this long article. What they left out was that the person who accused him of all this, first of all, is being investigated by the DOJ for fraud, and is in the middle of that right now. It's a very serious case. I would name the case, but that would... You, like, they made the lady anonymous, which is also crazy. Like, you could have an anonymous person who attacks this famous person-

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:35

       Yeah.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz21:35

       ... with, which is essentially, whether it's true, what, the things she's saying are true or not true, the stuff she left out, the DOJ stuff-

   17. JRJoe Rogan21:43

       Oh, and that's when he breaks it off.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz21:44

       Exactly.

   19. JRJoe Rogan21:45

       He breaks it off, she feels scorned.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz21:46

       The DOJ contacts him because they're investigating this woman.

   21. JRJoe Rogan21:50

       And you think that that would be, like, maybe the first paragraph of the article?

   22. ASAndrew Schulz21:53

       You would think that would at least be a part of the article.

   23. JRJoe Rogan21:56

       Yeah.

   24. ASAndrew Schulz21:56

       If it was a real piece of news.

   25. JRJoe Rogan21:58

       Yeah.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz21:58

       You would say, "Oh, this is complicated." Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan22:00

       Hmm. Okay, so what do you think it is? Do you think it could come from pharmaceutical companies?

   28. ASAndrew Schulz22:05

       I don't think there's zero influence. You know, I mean, I think for sure ... Look, with the stuff that happened to me during COVID-

   29. JRJoe Rogan22:12

       That's what I was gonna ask. What, where do you think it comes from?

   30. ASAndrew Schulz22:15

       That was 100% influenced by pharmaceutical drug companies.
8. 26:14 – 32:50

   Military-industrial economics: Ukraine aid, contracts, and war as business

   1. JRJoe Rogan26:14

      When we had, um, when we had RFK on, I didn't even fucking know this shit. But, um, I didn't know, like, when we're sending money to Ukraine, we're not really even sending money there. We're sending money to American military manufacturers to make weapons and then the mon- the weapons go to Ukraine.

   2. ASAndrew Schulz26:32

      Duh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan26:32

      But we're paying us.

   4. ASAndrew Schulz26:34

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan26:34

      But you can't really say it's-

   6. ASAndrew Schulz26:35

      But also some money goes over there too, and that money-

   7. JRJoe Rogan26:38

      But a fraction.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz26:39

      ... uh, yo- enough, billions, and th- that money's like whoo.

   9. JRJoe Rogan26:42

      Where to go?

   10. ASAndrew Schulz26:43

       Yeah. Dudes are doing coke and driving around in Rolls-Royces and balling.

   11. JRJoe Rogan26:46

       I saw that, the guy bought the, uh, yeah, what was it? The assistant, um, it was the v- it wasn't the vice president, but it was some, like, government figure bought, like, some insane car and it's like-

   12. ASAndrew Schulz26:55

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan26:55

       ... why are you buying insane cars when you're in the middle of a war?

   14. ASAndrew Schulz26:57

       How do you have the money?

   15. JRJoe Rogan26:58

       Yeah, there might be some rations you might want to buy.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz27:00

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan27:00

       Okay, so, so okay, so there's the system. I think Vivek called it, like, the managerial class.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz27:05

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan27:05

       Or something like that, which I thought was a good term. But okay, the money is going to these different industries first.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz27:13

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan27:13

       So it's kind of staying in America, which does, I guess, boost our economy in some way. Like, those people need to hire people. The economy starts to do-

   22. ASAndrew Schulz27:20

       That's a good way to look at it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan27:21

       No, but I mean like-

   24. ASAndrew Schulz27:22

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan27:22

       ... no, no, for real. Like, it's like they have to hire people.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz27:24

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan27:24

       They have to pay people. Like-

   28. ASAndrew Schulz27:26

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan27:26

       ... and that's why war is good for the economy.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz27:28

       Yeah.
9. 32:50 – 42:41

   War crimes, drones, and Fritz Haber: progress that feeds and kills

   1. ASAndrew Schulz32:50

      Like when someone says it's a war crime, you know, like... (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan32:54

      (laughs) Who decides... Yeah, who decides the levels?

   3. ASAndrew Schulz32:56

      You can only kill people certain ways. Like, uh, one of the wildest ones was also during World War I. It's a guy named Fritz Haber.

   4. JRJoe Rogan33:05

      Mm-hmm.

   5. ASAndrew Schulz33:05

      And Fritz Haber, he created the Haber method of extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere that's responsible for some crazy number today, this method is responsible for something about... So see if this is true. I think it's something around 50% of the nitrogen in human bodies today exists because of the Haber method. So 50% of the nitrogen from your food has been extracted from the atmosphere by the Haber method in order to provide fertilizer for plants that we use.

   6. JRJoe Rogan33:36

      Okay.

   7. ASAndrew Schulz33:36

      Especially when you're talking about industrialized fertilizer and commercial grade fertilizer where they ju- they have to spray it because the cro- the, the top soil is all dead for a lot of these modern industrial mono-crop agriculture establishments. So Fritz Haber creates this, but he also creates Zyklon A.

   8. JRJoe Rogan33:54

      All right. Yeah.

   9. ASAndrew Schulz33:55

      He created this gas that they were using t- he used... The gas, they turned it into Zyklon B, they took the smell out of it so they could kill the Jews with it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan34:06

       Yeah.

   11. ASAndrew Schulz34:06

       And he also used the gas when they were gassing Allied troops in World War I. This was the first time that that had been done.

   12. JRJoe Rogan34:14

       Chemical warfare.

   13. ASAndrew Schulz34:15

       So they had these massive fans and gas and they would blow it onto these soldiers and kill them all.

   14. JRJoe Rogan34:20

       Yeah.

   15. ASAndrew Schulz34:20

       And so he was both being recommended for the Nobel Prize-

   16. JRJoe Rogan34:26

       Nobel Peace... Yeah, I remember now.

   17. ASAndrew Schulz34:27

       ... and being a, a war criminal at the same time. He was wanted for crimes against-

   18. JRJoe Rogan34:32

       Humanity.

   19. ASAndrew Schulz34:32

       ... humanity.

   20. JRJoe Rogan34:33

       Yeah.

   21. ASAndrew Schulz34:33

       At the same time, he created the Haber method. What's the matter, Jamie? Nearly 50% of the nitrogen found in human tissues originated-

   22. JRJoe Rogan34:40

       Wow.

   23. ASAndrew Schulz34:40

       ... from the Haber-Bosch process. Thus, Haber process serves as the detonator of the population explosion-

   24. JRJoe Rogan34:47

       Hmm.

   25. ASAndrew Schulz34:47

       ... enabling the global population to increase from 1.6 billion in 1900 to 7.7 billion by 2018. Reverse fuel technology converts electrical energy, water, and air into ammonia without a separate hydrogen electrolysis process. So this is his pr- I mean, he was a legitimate genius. And his story is so fucking tragic. When he was leaving to, uh, go, uh, to the front lines to war to use his gas, it was so controversial. There was so much... His wife committed suicide in front of him, shot herself in the heart, and he left her to go to the front line while she was still alive. H- he left her with his 13-year-old son to take care of her while she tried to ki- she, she eventually died. But I mean, he was... His whole life became...

   26. JRJoe Rogan35:33

       Did he feel remorse for this at all?

   27. ASAndrew Schulz35:34

       I don't know.

   28. JRJoe Rogan35:35

       Or nothing?

   29. ASAndrew Schulz35:35

       I don't know. But eventually, uh, during World War II, he, uh, was a Jew and he saw all of his other Jewish friends that were scientists get pushed out and arrested and-

   30. JRJoe Rogan35:47

       Yeah.
10. 42:41 – 1:08:15

    Discipline as anti-comfort: hunting, cold plunges, Goggins, and raising driven kids

    1. JRJoe Rogan42:41

       Do you ever wish you didn't know all this stuff?

    2. ASAndrew Schulz42:44

       Yes.

    3. JRJoe Rogan42:44

       The ignorance is bliss.

    4. ASAndrew Schulz42:46

       Yes. I feel...... a tremendous weight of the amount of people that pay attention to the shit I say. It's a tremendous weight, so you feel like there's some things, uh, like, I would rather just be a hayseed-

    5. JRJoe Rogan43:00

       Yeah.

    6. ASAndrew Schulz43:00

       ... just fucking hanging out on my farm in Kansas, shooting deer with bows and arrows.

    7. JRJoe Rogan43:04

       Well, that's what I was gonna ask. Like, when you're out shooting deer, and you're not-

    8. ASAndrew Schulz43:07

       That's my favorite time-

    9. JRJoe Rogan43:09

       Yeah.

    10. ASAndrew Schulz43:09

        ... that I'm disconnected. I don't have cell phone service.

    11. JRJoe Rogan43:12

        Yeah.

    12. ASAndrew Schulz43:12

        I don't have shit.

    13. JRJoe Rogan43:13

        You're not thinking about the deep state?

    14. ASAndrew Schulz43:14

        No, man. I'm thinking about mountain lions, and I'm thinking about bugling elk-

    15. JRJoe Rogan43:19

        Yeah.

    16. ASAndrew Schulz43:19

        I'm thinking how my cardio is.

    17. JRJoe Rogan43:21

        Yeah.

    18. ASAndrew Schulz43:21

        Do I get enough electrolytes in me this morning?

    19. JRJoe Rogan43:23

        (laughs) Yeah.

    20. ASAndrew Schulz43:23

        Make sure my protein take is right.

    21. JRJoe Rogan43:24

        Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

    22. ASAndrew Schulz43:25

        You know, I'm, uh, I'm going eight fucking miles a day in the mountains.

    23. JRJoe Rogan43:29

        You like hard shit.

    24. ASAndrew Schulz43:31

        I do like-

    25. JRJoe Rogan43:31

        That's something I've, I've, I've noticed about you, and I think it's a really important thing to... It's an important quality to have as you achieve more success, because with success, life can get easier. So, if you're not addicted to difficulty and, like, hard situations, it's easy to just kind of fall into the comfort of nothing-

    26. ASAndrew Schulz43:54

        Mm-hmm.

    27. JRJoe Rogan43:54

        ... 'cause there was a guy who I had on the podcast, uh, Russ, who's just, who's awesome, uh, uh, artist. But he was like, "Yeah, once you get money, like, things become easy, and then anything that's not easy, you get very anxious about and fearful of." So, you like hard things. You admire David Goggins 'cause he's doing-

    28. ASAndrew Schulz44:13

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan44:13

        ... hard shit all the time.

    30. ASAndrew Schulz44:14

        Yeah.

Episode duration: 3:57:26