Joe Rogan Experience #2132 - Andrew Schulz

Joe Rogan 0:00 (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Like, I think of, I think he has that, that CIA guy on with the hair.

Andrew Schulz 0:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:18 You know? And, uh-

Andrew Schulz 0:18 What do you think of that guy?

Joe Rogan 0:20 So after the pod- (snaps fingers)

Andrew Schulz 0:23 I guess we're up. Let's go.

Joe Rogan 0:24 You wanna go?

Andrew Schulz 0:25 We're rolling.

Joe Rogan 0:25 Let's do it.

Andrew Schulz 0:26 Let's go.

Joe Rogan 0:26 Okay, so, um, he came on, and he was very, like, forthco- first of all, he's very charming, but like, when you're talking to anybody who's worked for the CIA, you're looking at him through the same lens as you look at, like, a therapist.

Andrew Schulz 0:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 0:38 Where it's like, "Wait, are you analyzing? Like, what's going on?"

Andrew Schulz 0:40 Right, "What's going on here?"

Joe Rogan 0:42 Very charming, very smart, very, like, seems to really know what's going on in the world, but like, straight up told us, he's like, "Yeah, the CIA, you know, I guess one of the advantages I have is like I'm pretty close to a sociopath. Like, I'm not there, but like I don't, I don't feel the same emotions that everybody feels. There's like a lack of guilt, but I know when I should feel it in these moments."

Andrew Schulz 1:03 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 1:03 But that's a huge advantage. Imagine if you're trying to, like, find assets and flip assets.

Andrew Schulz 1:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08 If you and I, like, build a relationship with somebody and we, like, feel empathy for them-

Andrew Schulz 1:12 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:13 ... maybe we wouldn't be able to say, "Hey, now it's time for you to cough up the information or else."

Andrew Schulz 1:18 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:18 But somebody else in that position might, so I would imagine if you were at the fucking CIA, you're like, "Okay, we're looking for people who have gone through these things in their life that'll- that have curated this kind of, like, personality type."

Andrew Schulz 1:29 Well, isn't it just, like, part of the gig? Like, here- here's a for instance. Like, your bit about Puffy. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:40 (laughs) How are you gonna connect these two fucking dots?

Andrew Schulz 1:43 You're- y- y- that bit is, like, look, you don't have any real personal beef with Diddy.

Joe Rogan 1:50 Mm-mm.

Andrew Schulz 1:50 But it's gotta go down. The- the- the bits are there. I'm a gold miner. I just found some gold.

Joe Rogan 1:56 You're right, maybe I'm a sociopath.

Andrew Schulz 1:58 It's not that you're a sociopath. It's just that that's part of the gig.

Joe Rogan 2:02 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 2:02 Like, you're not a sociopath with your friends.

Joe Rogan 2:04 No, I think I'm maybe an empath.

Andrew Schulz 2:07 Yes.

Joe Rogan 2:07 But I guess it's one of those things where, like, you justify, you go, "Okay, if there's a- I think this person might've done something bad."

Andrew Schulz 2:14 Yes.

Joe Rogan 2:14 And he can get jokes, and we're all gonna tell jokes.

Andrew Schulz 2:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:18 I'm not pressing fucking charges.

Andrew Schulz 2:19 Well, not only that, you're not the guy who's out there, like, calling the New York Times, "Hey, you know what I heard about Diddy?"

Joe Rogan 2:24 "By the way," yeah.

Andrew Schulz 2:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:25 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 2:26 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 2:26 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 2:26 You're just like, it's there.

Joe Rogan 2:29 Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Andrew Schulz 2:29 I mean, it's not just there. It's everywhere. My fucking newsfeed is dominated by it.

Joe Rogan 2:33 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 2:34 Fox News, CNN-

Joe Rogan 2:36 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 2:36 ... everyone. There's raids at Diddy's house.

Joe Rogan 2:39 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 2:39 Who was the guy-

Joe Rogan 2:40 The raids are business.

Andrew Schulz 2:40 ... that was running around with a sports bra on? Did you see that one dude?

Joe Rogan 2:43 No, this is in LA.

Andrew Schulz 2:45 Oh, my God, I gotta send you this.

Joe Rogan 2:46 Wait, while the raids are happening?

Andrew Schulz 2:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got caught up in the raid, and he was yelling, "I'm a celebrity! I'm a celebrity!"

Joe Rogan 2:52 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 2:52 It was like, l- like one of the most hilarious clips. Hold on. I'm gonna find you this.

Joe Rogan 2:57 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 2:57 It's so funny.

Joe Rogan 2:58 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 3:00 Do you know what I'm talking about, Jamie?

Narrator 3:01 Nope.

Joe Rogan 3:02 But you bring up-

Andrew Schulz 3:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:02 ... a good point, which is like, are there ever situations where you feel you won't...

Andrew Schulz 3:09 Wait till you see this.

Joe Rogan 3:13 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 3:13 (laughs) Wearing what appears to be a black sports bra, red-

Joe Rogan 3:18 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 3:18 (laughs) He's wearing a sports bra. Hold on, I'm- we're gonna play it.

Joe Rogan 3:21 Oh, okay.

Narrator 3:22 Put your headphones on so you can hear it.

Andrew Schulz 3:24 Yeah, put your headphones on so you can hear it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:30 Let me see.

Andrew Schulz 3:31 Oh.

Joe Rogan 3:31 Oh. Saucy Santana.

Andrew Schulz 3:33 Oh, (beep) Saucy.

Joe Rogan 3:34 Yeah, look at- look at this. Wearing what appears to be a black sports bra, red tights, and the performer's signature trimmed beard and long eyelashes.

Narrator 3:44 I'm a rapper. I'm a rapper.

Andrew Schulz 3:45 Yeah, this is-

Joe Rogan 3:46 Joe, this is Saucy Santana.

Andrew Schulz 3:48 Yeah, look at him. Look at him. Look at him.

Joe Rogan 3:49 This guy's- oh, wow.

Andrew Schulz 3:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:50 Saliva on the beard is crazy.

Andrew Schulz 3:52 Saliva on the beard.

Joe Rogan 3:53 He definitely came from a Diddy party.

Andrew Schulz 3:54 Yeah, well, he was at Diddy's house.

Joe Rogan 3:56 I bet he was.

Andrew Schulz 3:57 So I guess Diddy just kept people at his houses-

Joe Rogan 4:00 Listen.

Andrew Schulz 4:00 ... 'cause he's got multiple houses, and he just had freak out par- look at him. Look at Saucy Santana go. Saucy.

Joe Rogan 4:06 Yeah, yeah, no, Saucy's crazy. Have you seen Saucy twerk?

Andrew Schulz 4:09 Go Saucy. I didn't even know Saucy existed until I saw that video.

Joe Rogan 4:11 Oh, Saucy can throw it down.

Andrew Schulz 4:13 This is Booty by Saucy Tantana.

Joe Rogan 4:16 Saucy Tan-

Andrew Schulz 4:17 Oh, Jesus, Saucy.

Joe Rogan 4:18 (laughs) I love it.

Andrew Schulz 4:19 Give me some of this. Just... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:20 I don't even know if it's Diddy's artist, but-

Andrew Schulz 4:22 Well-

Joe Rogan 4:22 Saucy's, like, a popular figure in music.

Andrew Schulz 4:24 ... they're staying at his house.

Joe Rogan 4:25 (sighs) No, Diddy's in a tricky situation. He's in a tricky situation.

Andrew Schulz 4:30 Boy, that's the understatement of the year. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:31 Yeah, Diddy's in a tr- I think it's over.

Andrew Schulz 4:33 You think it's over?

Joe Rogan 4:34 I think it's over for him as like a, uh, a- a figure in entertainment.

Andrew Schulz 4:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 4:38 Like-

Andrew Schulz 4:38 But you think it's over as him as far as, like-

Joe Rogan 4:40 Going to jail?

Andrew Schulz 4:40 ... he gets a cell right next to R. Kelly?

Joe Rogan 4:43 I don't think so. I don't think he gets locked up.

Andrew Schulz 4:45 Really? I think he skates.

Joe Rogan 4:46 I think he skates, or he goes to, like, Bali.

Andrew Schulz 4:48 Really? Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 4:50 That's a move, huh?

Joe Rogan 4:51 I mean, Russell's out there.

Andrew Schulz 4:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:53 You know.

Andrew Schulz 4:53 Is- is he been formally charged, or does he just know that this shit is out there?

Joe Rogan 4:57 I think there's just so much shit out there.

Andrew Schulz 4:59 Bro, I think this rapper did some wild shit.

Joe Rogan 5:02 It's, yeah, I mean, it was, you know-

Andrew Schulz 5:03 Especially in the '90s.

Joe Rogan 5:04 The music business, it's a lot of people.

Andrew Schulz 5:06 It's not just the music business. It's like, it's the extortion business.

Joe Rogan 5:11 Well, that's, yeah, I mean, the, the rap game was crazy. That's a lot- a thing a lot of people don't realize is, like, back in the day, especially, like, early rap game, you weren't just going to play at, you know, what's the- a random theater that you would play in LA? What's, like, a big theater?

Andrew Schulz 5:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:25 I'm trying to think. The Orpheum or something like that.

Andrew Schulz 5:27 Wiltern.

Joe Rogan 5:28 The Wiltern. Some guys were explaining to me, it was like, you would play at the local hood club. There was, like, a hood club that you could perform at, and then that was owned by the local drug dealer that was washing money there.

Andrew Schulz 5:40 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:41 So this is where the idea of, like, checking in comes from. Have you heard of this term?

Andrew Schulz 5:44 Yes.

Joe Rogan 5:44 Like, checking in was basically like, hey, I wanna make sure we're good because you're gonna pay me, and if I don't check in, you might rob me because you're putting me up at the hotel, and you know everything that's going on.

Andrew Schulz 5:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 5:57 And you're a drug dealer.

Andrew Schulz 5:58 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:58 So you don't play by the rules.

Andrew Schulz 5:59 Right, when you come to Houston, you're checking in with certain people.

Joe Rogan 6:02 Mr. Prince.

Andrew Schulz 6:03 Yes, sir.

Joe Rogan 6:04 Mr. Prince.

Andrew Schulz 6:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:05 You don't gotta check in, Joe.

Andrew Schulz 6:07 You gotta check in, say hi?

Joe Rogan 6:08 Joe don't gotta check in.

Andrew Schulz 6:08 I'm not in the- that business.

Joe Rogan 6:10 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 6:10 I say hi.

Joe Rogan 6:12 You've had him on here, right?

Andrew Schulz 6:13 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:14 He's a legend in the game.

Andrew Schulz 6:15 He's a legend. Out of respect, I say hi.

Joe Rogan 6:17 There you go.

Andrew Schulz 6:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:18 There you go. So what is like... Yeah, yeah. How does a guy like him... Like, I'm trying to think. Like how do you, how do you navigate that to the point where people have this, like, respect and fear because of what they assume you've done in the street world?

Andrew Schulz 6:33 Right.

Joe Rogan 6:34 But you're also operating legitimately.

Andrew Schulz 6:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:38 And nobody can get you. Like-

Andrew Schulz 6:41 They try.

Joe Rogan 6:42 ... they try nonstop.

Andrew Schulz 6:43 Well, they tried with him many times.

Joe Rogan 6:45 And do you think they just give up?

Andrew Schulz 6:46 I don't think they have anything.

Joe Rogan 6:49 (sighs)

Andrew Schulz 6:49 If they had something, they would have brought it. You know, if they have something on a guy like that, they try to get him.

Joe Rogan 6:54 That's the thing with you-

Andrew Schulz 6:55 But he's clever.

Joe Rogan 6:56 Ugh.

Andrew Schulz 6:56 He's, he's a, uh, he's playing many levels. He's like one of those dudes, you ever see a chess tournament where a guy walks in and there's 10 different players and he just walks and goes to each move and goes to the next board and makes a move, goes to the next board, makes a move, and he beats everybody?

Joe Rogan 7:11 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 7:12 Yeah. That's-

Joe Rogan 7:12 So where does, where does a guy like that learn that? That's what I'm trying to understand.

Andrew Schulz 7:15 The streets.

Joe Rogan 7:15 The streets.

Andrew Schulz 7:16 Yeah. He, he learns that, you know. I mean, it's all about keeping people close.

Joe Rogan 7:20 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 7:21 Respect.

Joe Rogan 7:22 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 7:22 Giving respect, getting respect.

Joe Rogan 7:24 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 7:24 Making sure that, you know, you cover all your statements.

Joe Rogan 7:28 Yeah, like, if you say something, you have to make sure you do it.

Andrew Schulz 7:31 You cover it, yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:32 100% of the time.

Andrew Schulz 7:32 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 7:33 And there's probably times in his life where he's went, like if it's poker, he probably went all in a few times. Not in terms of money, but like-

Andrew Schulz 7:39 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 7:39 ... this decision makes or breaks me.

Andrew Schulz 7:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:41 I wonder how many make-or-break moments he's had.

Andrew Schulz 7:46 Well, it depends on what's actually true and what's not true in terms of accusations.

Joe Rogan 7:50 Ah.

Andrew Schulz 7:50 You know? 'Cause, uh, if some of the accusations are true, that kinda covers things.

Joe Rogan 7:55 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 7:56 You know, when folks vanish. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:01 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 8:01 When someone does abracadabra-

Joe Rogan 8:03 See you later.

Andrew Schulz 8:04 ... and folks vanish.

Joe Rogan 8:04 Yeah, yeah, that's effective. That fear-

Andrew Schulz 8:06 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:07 Fear is effective, man.

Andrew Schulz 8:08 Oh, 100%.

Joe Rogan 8:09 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 8:09 Yeah, and it should be, because listen, all this shit that's going on right now in the world, in America, we get so soft and we think none of that shit's gonna happen here.

Joe Rogan 8:20 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 8:20 All that murder, war, drones, assassinations, that's not gonna happen here.

Joe Rogan 8:26 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 8:27 Unless you know the Clintons.

Joe Rogan 8:28 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 8:29 Unless you know some shit.

Joe Rogan 8:30 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 8:31 Unless you know some shit about old Bill. And then you wind up shooting yourself in the chest while hanging from an extension cord.

Joe Rogan 8:37 Wait, did that happen?

Andrew Schulz 8:38 Oh, yeah, you don't know that guy?

Joe Rogan 8:40 Shot himself in the ch-

Andrew Schulz 8:41 This is a guy-

Joe Rogan 8:41 Joe, that seems really hard to do.

Andrew Schulz 8:42 With a shotgun. This is a-

Joe Rogan 8:44 Yeah, how do you do such a thing?

Andrew Schulz 8:45 ... while you're hanging. This is a guy that brought Epstein to the White House-

Joe Rogan 8:50 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 8:51 ... at least seven times.

Joe Rogan 8:53 What's his name?

Andrew Schulz 8:55 Uh, we'll find out. So they found him at a ranch 30 minutes from his house, hanging by an electrical cord from a tree with a shotgun wound to the chest. Shotgun discovered near the body of former Clinton aide, Mark Middleton, and then they called it a suicide.

Joe Rogan 9:12 Wow.

Andrew Schulz 9:13 12-gauge shotgun was 30 feet from the body of Mark Middleton was he found dead.

Joe Rogan 9:17 Okay, so who, who... Okay, who orchestrates this? Is this, is this the same thing where... Does, does Clinton go, "Hey, this guy needs to go," or do the powers that be around a powerful person go, "We already know what needs to happen"?

Andrew Schulz 9:34 Well, I think they know if a dude, uh, is in contact with someone or has been talking, or is about to talk.

Joe Rogan 9:42 You mean cooperating with the feds-

Andrew Schulz 9:43 Yes.

Joe Rogan 9:44 ... or something like that?

Andrew Schulz 9:44 I, I don't think any of those guys have clean phones. I don't think any of those guys don't have their houses bugged. I don't think any of those guys aren't tracked.

Joe Rogan 9:52 Look how excited that guy is in the back.

Andrew Schulz 9:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:55 Who the fuck is that?

Andrew Schulz 9:55 If you're a guy that brought Jeffrey Epstein to the fucking White House to see Bill Clinton seven times and all this Epstein shit is going down and Ghislaine's in jail and you have information, there, there's people on both sides, right? There's the people on the right that are trying to nail the people that are on the left with this. There's people that are journalists-

Joe Rogan 10:16 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 10:16 ... that are trying to nail the people that were involved in this.

Joe Rogan 10:18 This is it. Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 10:19 And they've managed to keep that fucking list from coming out, which shows you how powerful certain people are. That should show you a lot. That should be terrifying. The fact that Ghislaine Maxwell's in prison, she's in prison for sex trafficking, and yet no one's been accused of buying any of that pussy.

Joe Rogan 10:36 Wow.

Andrew Schulz 10:36 No one's been accused of having sex with these underage girls that she is in jail for supplying.

Joe Rogan 10:42 Yeah, that is, that is crazy.

Andrew Schulz 10:45 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 10:45 If you own a store and there's no items left yet nobody's purchased anything, something's going on.

Andrew Schulz 10:49 Something's going on.

Joe Rogan 10:51 Yeah. So I guess what I'm trying to figure out is like-

Andrew Schulz 10:54 People can go away.

Joe Rogan 10:56 I mean, that's what, that's what people are saying, and maybe, you know, everybody's a conspiracy theorist now, but that's what people are saying about the Diddy situation, like when the D- when the, when the feds rolled up, you know, with the fucking Hummers and shit, they were like, "It wasn't about Diddy. It was about if there were tapes of powerful people there."

Andrew Schulz 11:13 Yeah. Oh, sure.

Joe Rogan 11:14 They were the ones that called, they were like, "I need to protect myself, so go in there with all the things and rip any tapes or any evidence."

Andrew Schulz 11:20 Well, Prince Harry was hanging with Diddy.

Joe Rogan 11:23 I mean, everybody hung with Diddy. That's the other tricky thing.

Andrew Schulz 11:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:25 Like, Diddy hung out with everybody.

Andrew Schulz 11:26 That is the thing.

Joe Rogan 11:26 And I've spoken to a bunch of people who are like, "Yo, great dude, like always there for you, never asked for a single thing."

Andrew Schulz 11:32 Till 1:00 in the morning.

Joe Rogan 11:33 And then-

Andrew Schulz 11:34 And then-

Joe Rogan 11:34 ... the freak-off begins.

Andrew Schulz 11:35 ... everybody says, "Get out of the house."

Joe Rogan 11:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 11:38 It's like the gremlins start eating after midnight.

Joe Rogan 11:43 (laughs) Yeah. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 11:45 (laughs) Everybody who tells the story is like, "I saw... I go upstairs and these dudes are fucking."

Joe Rogan 11:49 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 11:49 "Like right on the couch."

Joe Rogan 11:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 11:50 "And then I go in this room and these guys are fucking." And it's like-

Joe Rogan 11:53 Yeah. And pros, like apparently he was getting male gigolos to fuck girls. That-

Andrew Schulz 12:00 To fuck girls?

Joe Rogan 12:01 Yeah, that's the... That was one of the rumors, like the freak-off.

Andrew Schulz 12:03 Male gigolos?

Joe Rogan 12:03 So he would hire the professional dicks to have sex with the girls, and I think he would watch allegedly. That's, that's what was alleged, I think. Yeah, there's a lot of crazy stuff going on. And that's the other thing, like I wonder, like...... is that just a power thing?

Andrew Schulz 12:18 It's a Caligula thing.

Joe Rogan 12:19 What does that mean?

Andrew Schulz 12:20 Caligula, like the, the emperor. Did you ever see that movie, Caligula?

Joe Rogan 12:23 No. No.

Andrew Schulz 12:23 It's about just Roman Empire's being completely out of control. Caligula was, like, almost like porn, and it was a movie made, I want to say, in the '70s. It's a crazy movie.

Joe Rogan 12:34 Why?

Andrew Schulz 12:34 But it's just, it's just detailing extreme excess where you can never fill the hole.

Joe Rogan 12:41 (sighs) But what, what is the hole you need to fill? Like, I'm trying to find, like, what's the catalyst?

Andrew Schulz 12:44 Hmm. Just chaos.

Joe Rogan 12:44 What year was this?

Narrator 12:45 '79.

Andrew Schulz 12:46 '79. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:51 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 12:51 That's Malcolm McDowell, right?

Narrator 12:52 Uh, yeah, looks like it.

Andrew Schulz 12:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:55 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 12:56 Yeah, the dude from Clockwork Orange.

Joe Rogan 12:58 Ah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 12:58 It's a crazy movie, man.

Joe Rogan 13:00 But I get-

Andrew Schulz 13:00 And it's, it's still mild in comparison to what absolute power... Absolute power corrupts. Caligula.

Joe Rogan 13:05 Okay, so then there's the question. It's like, can you take a completely normal person, give them power, and then they become that? Or does it take a power-hungry person that has this void that they need to be fill- that needs to be filled? And then when they are given that power, you see the worst version of them?

Andrew Schulz 13:20 Ask your CIA boy. I bet he's got the answers. I bet he knows the exact formula.

Joe Rogan 13:24 To corrupting somebody?

Andrew Schulz 13:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:25 Or to...

Andrew Schulz 13:26 What happens?

Joe Rogan 13:27 Like-

Andrew Schulz 13:27 What happens to these people?

Joe Rogan 13:28 Have you ever met somebody in our business that, like, before they were popping, they were kind of a dick, and then once they became very successful, they were the biggest dick? And you're like, "You were always gonna be this way. You just didn't have the power to-"

Andrew Schulz 13:44 I don't know too many-

Joe Rogan 13:45 "... project it on people."

Andrew Schulz 13:45 ... people in our business that are succ- that are really successful, like your level or my level-

Joe Rogan 13:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 13:50 ... that are dicks.

Joe Rogan 13:51 Yeah, yeah. Let me think about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there, there are people maybe that feel they should be at a higher level and are not.

Andrew Schulz 14:01 They feel that they can kind of boss people around-

Joe Rogan 14:04 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 14:04 ... or throw their weight around to their assistant or their agents or-

Joe Rogan 14:07 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 14:07 ... maybe they yell when they shouldn't yell, or don't have to yell, or are demeaning to certain people.

Joe Rogan 14:13 That bothers me though.

Andrew Schulz 14:14 Oh, I hate it.

Joe Rogan 14:15 It real- Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 14:15 I don't like it at all.

Joe Rogan 14:16 Especially when you're demeaning to the people that can't... (smacks lips)

Andrew Schulz 14:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:19 ... can't really do anything. They could quit-

Andrew Schulz 14:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:21 ... of course, but, like, this is their opportunity.

Andrew Schulz 14:22 Right. And then they feel terrible and for no reason, when the same exact situation could be handled with a hug.

Joe Rogan 14:27 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 14:28 Yeah. You can tell them that you appreciate them, you hold their hand, you shake their hand, you give them a hug.

Joe Rogan 14:33 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 14:33 And then everybody feels good.

Joe Rogan 14:34 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 14:35 Yeah, that should be what you, the goal is. Like, you're the guy who is in this very unique, unusual situation, and you have the ability to make everybody feel better.

Joe Rogan 14:44 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 14:45 Except, until you don't. Until there's some people that you just gotta get rid of. There's some people that are just feel entitled, and they don't feel like... There's certain things that do happen around certain successful people. You'll see they have a few people that have resentment that are around them that realize, like, "Oh, I'm a support person, and I only have so much room that I can climb."

Joe Rogan 15:04 Right.

Andrew Schulz 15:04 "I can never be Andrew Schulz. I'm always going to be this guy who works with Andrew Schulz." Or, oh, like, I've had a few buddies that have opening acts that wind up getting very entitled.

Joe Rogan 15:16 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 15:17 And they have real problems with them, where the opening acts get resentful and it becomes issues.

Joe Rogan 15:22 And then what do they do?

Andrew Schulz 15:22 Even good guys.

Joe Rogan 15:23 They clip them.

Andrew Schulz 15:24 They get rid of them.

Joe Rogan 15:25 You have to.

Andrew Schulz 15:26 Yeah, you gotta get rid of them.

Joe Rogan 15:26 'Cause you can't be around someone who resents your success.

Andrew Schulz 15:29 I just had a friend who just led me through all the shit that his opening act was doing and... But I've, I know several guys that have had that. And once things start popping, those guys feel like, "Hey, you know, I'm a big deal."

Joe Rogan 15:40 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 15:40 You know? Like, you don't even... You're just like... You could be replaced with another guy who does 15 minutes.

Joe Rogan 15:45 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 15:45 Like, this is crazy. You're, you have an amazing opportunity.

Joe Rogan 15:48 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 15:48 You get a chance to perform in front of these thousands of people that you would-

Joe Rogan 15:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 15:50 ... never be able to perform in front of them.

Joe Rogan 15:52 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 15:52 And you light it up.

Joe Rogan 15:53 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 15:53 You can move up the ladder, and then one day, that could be you, and they could be coming to see you.

Joe Rogan 15:57 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 15:57 And we've all seen that.

Joe Rogan 15:58 And you never want to have to manage somebody like that. You want to have people around you that are excited by the opportunity-

Andrew Schulz 16:03 Yes.

Joe Rogan 16:03 ... and everybody's, like, part of the team, and we're doing this fucking unbelievable thing.

Andrew Schulz 16:07 Yes.

Joe Rogan 16:07 And, yeah, I guess I feel lucky I have those guys.

Andrew Schulz 16:10 Yeah, you c- you've cultured a, a good group of humans. And they-

Joe Rogan 16:14 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 16:14 And then they have gratitude, and we all have gratitude. Everybody-

Joe Rogan 16:17 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 16:17 ... has gratitude.

Joe Rogan 16:17 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 16:18 That's the key. But some people, they're just... They're nuts. Some people are just crazy, which is why they're in show business in the first place.

Joe Rogan 16:24 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 16:25 And they have a distorted perception of reality, and they're not good at being objective. They're not good at seeing the big picture. You know, those fucking people could be a real problem if they're in your circle.

Joe Rogan 16:34 And if they're smart. The problem is, like, when you take one of those people who's intelligent, but they can, like, rationalize and justify all the behaviors.

Andrew Schulz 16:42 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:42 That's the trickiest thing. Like, how do you... (sighs) Have you been in that situation where, like, you're ty- trying to talk them out of a behavior that they have? And you're just like, "This might not be the most rational way to operate." It's not really... (laughs) It's like, at a certain point in time, you have to... Yeah, I guess you got, gotta kind of let them-

Andrew Schulz 17:03 Yeah, I don't know-

Joe Rogan 17:03 ... let them do their thing.

Andrew Schulz 17:04 ... what you can do to cure them of it.

Joe Rogan 17:08 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 17:08 I don't, and I don't know if you can, like, tell them, "Hey, this is what you're doing." They're like, "Fuck, what am I doing?"

Joe Rogan 17:13 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 17:13 "Oh, I'm sorry."

Joe Rogan 17:14 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 17:14 "I'm gonna get my shit together."

Joe Rogan 17:17 Do we have confirmation?

Andrew Schulz 17:18 Yes.

Joe Rogan 17:19 And, and we're good to go, or what?

Andrew Schulz 17:20 Yeah, hold on. Hold on.

Joe Rogan 17:21 Okay. Okay. (laughs) Light it up, Joe. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 17:29 (clears throat) Yeah. We're going back and forth right now.

Joe Rogan 17:33 Is he?

Andrew Schulz 17:33 Yeah, I think there's just-

Joe Rogan 17:34 Comfy or not comfy?

Andrew Schulz 17:35 Yeah. Green light.

Joe Rogan 17:36 Oh, really?

Andrew Schulz 17:37 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:37 Okay. All right.

Andrew Schulz 17:39 I think there's a, a lot of-

Joe Rogan 17:41 Speaking of psychos. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 17:42 ... psychos...

Joe Rogan 17:42 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 17:42 There's a lot of psychos in the world.

Joe Rogan 17:44 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 17:44 And I think that this is the thing. It's like, there's a certain amount of people that really don't care about other people.

Joe Rogan 17:52 So-

Andrew Schulz 17:52 They don't, they, they exist with... I mean, what is the, the term is, I guess, the term is sociopath, right?

Joe Rogan 17:57 Well, I think sociopath just means, like, you don't feel, like, the guilt that a normal person would feel when you make somebody feel uncomfortable.

Andrew Schulz 18:05 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:05 Or they could potentially be in that uncomfortable situation. That, that reaction is just not elicited-

Andrew Schulz 18:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:10 ... in you. And therefore, you can maybe ask them to do things that would put them in a really uncomfortable situation. Like, for example, you have a podcast, right? You ask somebody to come on. There might be...... a really embarrassing, tough question that you might wanna ask them, and maybe that's why you brought them on. Or they're a really close friend of yours, and you're just like, "I don't know if I wanna put them in this situation in front of all these people."

Andrew Schulz 18:31 Dude, I do that all the time.

Joe Rogan 18:32 You don't ask.

Andrew Schulz 18:33 I don't ask, all the time.

Joe Rogan 18:34 Exactly, 'cause you have empathy. You care about how they're perceived.

Andrew Schulz 18:35 Not just that, like, I don't need to talk to someone about something controversial. (clears throat) If they wanna talk about it, like if it's something they wanna get off their chest or the- they wanna discuss because there's some misconceptions out there, I- I'm happy to give you that, that platform.

Joe Rogan 18:49 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 18:49 But, like, play Got You with you-

Joe Rogan 18:51 It's-

Andrew Schulz 18:51 I am not that guy, at all.

Joe Rogan 18:53 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 18:53 I don't want to have anything to do with that shit.

Joe Rogan 18:55 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 18:55 I don't like it.

Joe Rogan 18:56 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 18:56 I don't think it's necessary.

Joe Rogan 18:58 It feels gross.

Andrew Schulz 18:58 Also, if you're talking about a human being in one very specific issue, th-

Joe Rogan 19:02 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:02 ... I don't they have a lot of things going on in their life? I'm interested in the full human.

Joe Rogan 19:06 Dude.

Andrew Schulz 19:06 I'm not interested in just digging the dirt on one bad situation that you may or may not be involved in.

Joe Rogan 19:12 You said some shit to me, uh, when I had, when I had my kid. You said, uh, you said, "You know what's really funny is that, like, when I'm talking to somebody or somebody's being incredibly annoying, or they're frustrating, they're being a pain in the ass, they're being a dick, I just imagine them as a six-week-old baby."

Andrew Schulz 19:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:30 And it's like every one of them started out that way, this innocent, pure-

Andrew Schulz 19:34 (clears throat) Yep.

Joe Rogan 19:35 ... amazing little thing. And life might have turned them into this.

Andrew Schulz 19:39 Life, shitty parents-

Joe Rogan 19:41 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:41 ... bad neighborhood, and then sometimes it's just genes.

Joe Rogan 19:45 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:45 Sometimes you get wacky genes, man.

Joe Rogan 19:47 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:47 You know? Sometimes people are mentally ill right from the jump.

Joe Rogan 19:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:51 And I don't think people like to admit that, but that's, that's a fact.

Joe Rogan 19:54 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:54 You know?

Joe Rogan 19:55 Yeah. How much can you do with that?

Andrew Schulz 19:58 Not much. (clears throat) And then when it comes to, like, medication, what is the medication doing it? Is it dulling the mind so that the impulses don't come out? Is it, uh, ramping up your dopamine so you don't want to do those things? Like...

Joe Rogan 20:11 Yeah, I was wondering that with, like, Prozac. Like, I didn't realize how many people I knew that were on Prozac. What's he saying? Yay or nay?

Andrew Schulz 20:19 Yeah, we're good.

Joe Rogan 20:21 Let's just do it.

Andrew Schulz 20:21 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. (exhales)

Joe Rogan 20:31 Speaking of.

Andrew Schulz 20:32 Mm.

Joe Rogan 20:32 Speaking of psycho, speaking of, of, of people that are potentially bad-

Andrew Schulz 20:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:37 ... that do not have your good, uh, good i- interests at, at heart and will take advantage of you and maybe are pathological in their desires to crush.

Andrew Schulz 20:48 So, we're talk- talking about Andrew Huberman's situation?

Joe Rogan 20:51 His situation, not Huberman.

Andrew Schulz 20:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:52 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 20:53 So, one of the things that was left out of that article-

Joe Rogan 20:57 People know, I assume, everybody here knows exactly what happened to-

Andrew Schulz 20:59 So, there's an article that Andrew Huberman and X got ahold of a reporter and said that he's a f- philanderer, he's doing all these terrible things, he's a bad guy.

Joe Rogan 21:10 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 21:10 And so they write this long article. What they left out was that the person who accused him of all this, first of all, is being investigated by the DOJ for fraud, and is in the middle of that right now. It's a very serious case. I would name the case, but that would... You, like, they made the lady anonymous, which is also crazy. Like, you could have an anonymous person who attacks this famous person-

Joe Rogan 21:35 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 21:35 ... with, which is essentially, whether it's true, what, the things she's saying are true or not true, the stuff she left out, the DOJ stuff-

Joe Rogan 21:43 Oh, and that's when he breaks it off.

Andrew Schulz 21:44 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 21:45 He breaks it off, she feels scorned.

Andrew Schulz 21:46 The DOJ contacts him because they're investigating this woman.

Joe Rogan 21:50 And you think that that would be, like, maybe the first paragraph of the article?

Andrew Schulz 21:53 You would think that would at least be a part of the article.

Joe Rogan 21:56 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 21:56 If it was a real piece of news.

Joe Rogan 21:58 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 21:58 You would say, "Oh, this is complicated." Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:00 Hmm. Okay, so what do you think it is? Do you think it could come from pharmaceutical companies?

Andrew Schulz 22:05 I don't think there's zero influence. You know, I mean, I think for sure ... Look, with the stuff that happened to me during COVID-

Joe Rogan 22:12 That's what I was gonna ask. What, where do you think it comes from?

Andrew Schulz 22:15 That was 100% influenced by pharmaceutical drug companies.

Joe Rogan 22:18 Political interests too?

Andrew Schulz 22:20 Yeah. Well, they're all tied in together.

Joe Rogan 22:21 And those are intertwined. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 22:21 Because they fund them.

Joe Rogan 22:23 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 22:23 So, you got pharmaceutical drug interests that, A, fund the network.

Joe Rogan 22:27 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 22:27 Right? They pay for so much of the advertisement. Right?

Joe Rogan 22:31 So now- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 22:31 I mean, you can't just cut that off.

Joe Rogan 22:32 Now they're beholden to the advertisers, yes, yes, yes.

Andrew Schulz 22:33 Yeah. If, if the news said, "No more pharmaceutical drugs," like let's imagine if the government says this.

Joe Rogan 22:40 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 22:40 The government says, "No more pharmaceutical drug contributions to Super PACs, no more pharmaceutical drugs ads on t- television shows and newspapers. No more." Then you have to fill a massive void-

Joe Rogan 22:55 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 22:55 ... that's missing from those ads. And you're gonna have to bring in Toyota trucks and fucking all these different things.

Joe Rogan 23:00 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 23:01 But you're missing out on a lot of fucking money. So, if that's a giant portion of your ad revenue-

Joe Rogan 23:08 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 23:08 ... you're gonna avoid all conversations about vaccine injuries.

Joe Rogan 23:11 Yes. Yes.

Andrew Schulz 23:12 They are not gonna come up. You are gonna shut them down and go to commercial.

Joe Rogan 23:15 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 23:16 You're gonna say, "Well, the studies don't show that." The study don't, you'll talk over RFK.

Joe Rogan 23:20 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 23:20 "What you're saying is just simply not true. Vaccines, the reason why we don't have blah blah blah blah blah."

Joe Rogan 23:25 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 23:25 "The, the vaccines have never been shown to show au- to cause autism. Vaccines ... And we'll go, we'll be right back." They go to commercial. And then it's just like, the person shouted them down. They're probably getting talk in their ear.

Joe Rogan 23:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 23:36 You know, Don Lemon, "Get off the subject." You know, like there's, there's probably someone in their ear, 'cause they do have earpieces.

Joe Rogan 23:43 But here's the thing, I don't even know if they have to tell you. When you know that you are being paid by someone-

Andrew Schulz 23:48 Yes.

Joe Rogan 23:48 ... it's very easy to just go along with whatever narrative they support.

Andrew Schulz 23:52 Hundred percent.

Joe Rogan 23:53 And, and that's the tricky thing because a lot of times we act like there's these, like, group of six people that are, that are disseminating this information. They're directly hitting up Don Lemon, all these other people like, "You must behave this way." I think people fall in line.

Andrew Schulz 24:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:04 I think it's almost human instinct to fall in line. When you know who's got your back, you kinda fall in line with it.

Andrew Schulz 24:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:09 And if the pharmaceutical companies are-... supporting 25% of your ads, or 30, whatever the fuck it is.

Andrew Schulz 24:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:15 You fall in line with it.

Andrew Schulz 24:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:16 You fall in line with the narratives of the networks you're with. If you write for the Washington Post, you probably fall in line.

Andrew Schulz 24:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:21 And when you start to ruffle feathers, your articles don't get posted. And then you realize, "Oh, shit, if I want my articles get posted, I gotta write like this."

Andrew Schulz 24:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:28 "And my kid's in private school and I want to build a pool." And now there's this incentive structure that's built in without anybody fucking telling you what to do.

Andrew Schulz 24:34 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 24:35 So it's this, it's not as, like, nefarious as people assume it is when you hear about, like, the deep state-

Andrew Schulz 24:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 24:40 ... and who are these people telling you. It's an incentive structure built in, and human beings want to survive.

Andrew Schulz 24:45 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 24:45 And we start kind of doing the things that will help us survive.

Andrew Schulz 24:48 And then it's all implied, you know-

Joe Rogan 24:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 24:50 ... what you're supposed to say-

Joe Rogan 24:51 It's the fucking-

Andrew Schulz 24:51 ... and not supposed to say.

Joe Rogan 24:52 It's the Clinton, uh, speaking fee. Like no one wants-

Andrew Schulz 24:54 Yep.

Joe Rogan 24:54 ... to hear Hillary Clinton speak.

Andrew Schulz 24:55 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 24:56 Nobody ever has wanted to hear her speak, but she's getting 400 grand from Goldman Sachs-

Andrew Schulz 25:00 Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 25:01 ... after she's, you know, uh, what was the, uh-

Andrew Schulz 25:03 Secretary of State.

Joe Rogan 25:04 ... Secretary of State.

Andrew Schulz 25:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:04 So it's like, but Goldman Sachs doesn't need to say, "Hey, by the way, you're gonna get speaking fees."

Andrew Schulz 25:10 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 25:10 She knows it.

Andrew Schulz 25:11 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 25:11 They all fucking know it.

Andrew Schulz 25:13 Well, that was why during the Trump, uh, debates with Clinton, he was like, "Release the transcripts of those speeches."

Joe Rogan 25:19 Oh, I love it. Yeah, I'll release my taxes, you release the transcripts.

Andrew Schulz 25:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:22 And what is the transcript? "Hey guys, do we really need to be here?"

Andrew Schulz 25:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:24 "Or can I go home?"

Andrew Schulz 25:25 "You know what I want."

Joe Rogan 25:26 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 25:26 "I want you guys to make money."

Joe Rogan 25:28 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 25:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:29 But let's-

Andrew Schulz 25:29 Let's keep it rolling.

Joe Rogan 25:30 ... still keep it rolling. So that's the-

Andrew Schulz 25:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:31 ... that's the, whatever, the deep state, if you will. It's not, it's not six people.

Andrew Schulz 25:35 Well, that's, the, that is like the people that are in your crew that start acting entitled when they're around you.

Joe Rogan 25:45 Wait, wait, what do-

Andrew Schulz 25:45 Those are the people, the, the Hillary Clintons-

Joe Rogan 25:48 The, the Hillary Clintons?

Andrew Schulz 25:48 The Hillary Clintons are the people that are like, maybe disrespectful to the servers and you find out about it, they sent food back, they talk rude. It's not, it's not the main guy, it's the support staff.

Joe Rogan 26:00 So you're saying-

Andrew Schulz 26:00 So the main people are not the presidents.

Joe Rogan 26:04 Right.

Andrew Schulz 26:04 The main people-

Joe Rogan 26:05 They need the, the people to do it.

Andrew Schulz 26:05 ... are the people that are running Raytheon-

Joe Rogan 26:07 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 26:07 ... the people that are running these gigantic-

Joe Rogan 26:09 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 26:10 ... c- companies that make weapons.

Joe Rogan 26:12 Dude, that, I didn't even, when we-

Andrew Schulz 26:13 That's where the real money is.

Joe Rogan 26:14 When we had, um, when we had RFK on, I didn't even fucking know this shit. But, um, I didn't know, like, when we're sending money to Ukraine, we're not really even sending money there. We're sending money to American military manufacturers to make weapons and then the mon- the weapons go to Ukraine.

Andrew Schulz 26:32 Duh.

Joe Rogan 26:32 But we're paying us.

Andrew Schulz 26:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:34 But you can't really say it's-

Andrew Schulz 26:35 But also some money goes over there too, and that money-

Joe Rogan 26:38 But a fraction.

Andrew Schulz 26:39 ... uh, yo- enough, billions, and th- that money's like whoo.

Joe Rogan 26:42 Where to go?

Andrew Schulz 26:43 Yeah. Dudes are doing coke and driving around in Rolls-Royces and balling.

Joe Rogan 26:46 I saw that, the guy bought the, uh, yeah, what was it? The assistant, um, it was the v- it wasn't the vice president, but it was some, like, government figure bought, like, some insane car and it's like-

Andrew Schulz 26:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:55 ... why are you buying insane cars when you're in the middle of a war?

Andrew Schulz 26:57 How do you have the money?

Joe Rogan 26:58 Yeah, there might be some rations you might want to buy.

Andrew Schulz 27:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:00 Okay, so, so okay, so there's the system. I think Vivek called it, like, the managerial class.

Andrew Schulz 27:05 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 27:05 Or something like that, which I thought was a good term. But okay, the money is going to these different industries first.

Andrew Schulz 27:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:13 So it's kind of staying in America, which does, I guess, boost our economy in some way. Like, those people need to hire people. The economy starts to do-

Andrew Schulz 27:20 That's a good way to look at it.

Joe Rogan 27:21 No, but I mean like-

Andrew Schulz 27:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:22 ... no, no, for real. Like, it's like they have to hire people.

Andrew Schulz 27:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:24 They have to pay people. Like-

Andrew Schulz 27:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:26 ... and that's why war is good for the economy.

Andrew Schulz 27:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:28 And if the economy is built, built on this military industrial complex or whatever it is-

Andrew Schulz 27:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:32 ... we constantly need conflict to in order, in order to continue the, um, uh, the, the positive momentum of the economy.

Andrew Schulz 27:39 Yes.

Joe Rogan 27:39 But they can't say that. They can't go, "Hey, we need war in order for the economy to be good."

Andrew Schulz 27:44 They're not thinking about the economy. They're thinking about the money that they are specifically going to make from these transactions. They, they're not thinking about, "Oh, we're gonna do this, good for the economy." They're thinking, "This is an opportunity to get a massive contract."

Joe Rogan 27:55 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 27:56 They're in the business of constantly making more money. When you're in a corporation, especially a publicly traded corporation.

Joe Rogan 28:01 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 28:02 You have an obligation to your shareholders-

Joe Rogan 28:03 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 28:03 ... to make more money.

Joe Rogan 28:04 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 28:04 You have a board, you have people that have dumped $100 million and they're, into the company and they're staring at you and they're like, "What are we doing to maximize profits?" And just like if you're, you know, working for CNN, you know if someone starts saying that, uh, uh, that vaccines might be killing kids, you, you gotta step in and go, "There is no evidence for this." You gotta cover.

Joe Rogan 28:27 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 28:27 You're covering for this.

Joe Rogan 28:29 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 28:29 Everyone's covering. And if you're the head of a corporation, it's your job to get these contracts. It's a sociopathic sort of a situation. No one's looking at it like, what is the big picture? Does this really need to be ha- Isn't there some sort of a diplomatic approach that could be made? What were the factors that led us to get into this situation in the first place?

Joe Rogan 28:47 Yep.

Andrew Schulz 28:47 What's going on with NATO?

Joe Rogan 28:48 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 28:48 Why are they moving weapons closer and closer to, to Russia's border?

Joe Rogan 28:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 28:51 Maybe there's a diplomatic solution that could stop the death of hundreds of thousands-

Joe Rogan 28:56 Thousands of people.

Andrew Schulz 28:57 ... of innocent people.

Joe Rogan 28:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 28:58 But no, no, make that cheddar. Let's go, let's go.

Joe Rogan 29:03 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 29:03 And, and then attach it to different bills, right? Like attach it to the border bill.

Joe Rogan 29:08 Yeah, yeah-

Andrew Schulz 29:08 Attach it to the fucking-

Joe Rogan 29:09 Now it's the... Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 29:10 Attach it to the education bill.

Joe Rogan 29:11 It's a border bill that randomly has money going to Ukraine.

Andrew Schulz 29:13 We gotta educate, we gotta educate those Russians about our fucking bombs.

Joe Rogan 29:16 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 29:17 That's part of the education bill. They gotta know about a Tomahawk missile, bitch.

Joe Rogan 29:22 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 29:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:24 So how do you, how do you stop that?

Andrew Schulz 29:28 Money. And the problem is, it's already been embedded, right? It's like trying to tell the mob, "You can't make money anymore." Like, you, you have to do some radical things to get the mob out of businesses, right? And that's what they had to do with Giuliani in New York.

Joe Rogan 29:40 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 29:40 With the John Gotti and the families and locking everybody up. Like, you, you can't just say, "Hey guys, stop doing that." That's, that's what they do.

Joe Rogan 29:49 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 29:49 It's what they do. That's what they did with Iraq, that's what they did with Afghanistan.

Joe Rogan 29:52 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 29:52 That's what they did with Vietnam.

Joe Rogan 29:53 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 29:53 They do it with everything.

Joe Rogan 29:55 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 29:55 They, that's what Eisenhower warned the American people about when he was leaving office.

Joe Rogan 30:00 When he was leaving office. Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 30:00 Which is one of the craziest videos in human history.

Joe Rogan 30:03 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 30:03 Where he's saying the military industrial complex-

Joe Rogan 30:06 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 30:07 ... wants to go to war. Like there's a machine that wants to go to war and you have to be very careful of it.

Joe Rogan 30:12 So what is the history of this? So what World War II?

Andrew Schulz 30:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:15 The whole country turns into a war machine, is that essentially-

Andrew Schulz 30:18 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 30:18 ... and which was beneficial for us, right?

Andrew Schulz 30:20 Sure. Great for the economy, great for a lot of things, great to unite us.

Joe Rogan 30:23 Great for freedom.

Andrew Schulz 30:24 Right.

Joe Rogan 30:24 Great for not speaking fucking German-

Andrew Schulz 30:26 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 30:26 ... for the rest of our existence. But, and, and by it turns into a war machine, like Ford just starts making tanks.... like, everybody shifts their goal, right? Is that essentially what happens when...

Andrew Schulz 30:39 Well, a lot of people definitely shift their... I mean, Ford obviously kept making cars, but like, a lot of people do shift their-

Joe Rogan 30:44 But I think Ford also-

Andrew Schulz 30:45 ... their businesses.

Joe Rogan 30:45 ... started making military vehicles.

Andrew Schulz 30:47 Did they?

Joe Rogan 30:47 My-

Andrew Schulz 30:47 Makes sense.

Joe Rogan 30:48 That was my understanding is that, like, every business started to prioritize the war effort.

Andrew Schulz 30:51 Right.

Joe Rogan 30:52 And then-

Andrew Schulz 30:52 Definitely.

Joe Rogan 30:52 ... not overnight, but pretty quickly, the whole country had one singular focus, which was, "If we need to go to war-

Andrew Schulz 30:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:58 ... we can turn it over." It's like, uh, I think that's what Napoleon did actually. That was one of how he was so effective. He turned the whole country into a war machine.

Andrew Schulz 31:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:06 Whereas before it was like, "Wait, I thought we were just lining up in the field and banging back and forth against each other." He's like, "No, no, you're fighting the whole country." So then when we get to turn over and flip and Ford starts making vehicles or whatever the fucking needs for the military effort, we have a huge competitive advantage. The money that comes in through that... And fact check me on this, please, but, like, the money that starts to be generated by that is very hard to relinquish when the war is done.

Andrew Schulz 31:28 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:28 The war stops and then people go, "Whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, we were making 100 million a year during the war."

Andrew Schulz 31:32 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:32 "I don't wanna go back to 20 million."

Andrew Schulz 31:34 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:35 So we need more wars.

Andrew Schulz 31:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:36 Is that the idea?

Andrew Schulz 31:37 Yeah. That's, that's a bi- definitely part of the idea. It's also connected to a lot of other things too that you wouldn't think about.

Joe Rogan 31:42 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 31:42 Like subsidizing food.

Joe Rogan 31:44 Wait, what, wh-

Andrew Schulz 31:45 So subsidizing farmers. So, like, when you hear about corn subsidies-

Joe Rogan 31:48 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 31:48 ... like, we have corn subsidies, that's why there's corn syrup in everything.

Joe Rogan 31:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 31:51 And there's, you know, uh, corn-

Joe Rogan 31:52 We picked a crop that could feed 300 million people and it just happened to be corn.

Andrew Schulz 31:55 Well, what happened was during World War II, they started to, uh, subsidize farmers so that they would have a surplus, so in case another war breaks out-

Joe Rogan 32:04 We're good.

Andrew Schulz 32:05 ... they always have... They, they have food storage.

Joe Rogan 32:07 Right.

Andrew Schulz 32:08 They have the ability to, uh, feed the country even if we're cut off from the rest of the world. And when you're dependent upon foreign countries for different things like grains and medicines, and that's one of the things we found out during COVID, right?

Joe Rogan 32:23 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 32:23 A lot of medicine is made in China. And a lot of it was very hard to come by-

Joe Rogan 32:27 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 32:28 ... d- during, during COVID because of the transportation issues.

Joe Rogan 32:31 Isn't that one of the issues with Ukraine?

Andrew Schulz 32:33 I'm sure.

Joe Rogan 32:33 Is that there's not, not with medicine, but with actual grain. Like, it's one of the largest grain producers-

Andrew Schulz 32:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 32:37 ... in the world.

Andrew Schulz 32:38 Yes.

Joe Rogan 32:38 So I think there even had to be, like, an agreement between Russia and Ukraine to continue sending out grain during the conflict.

Andrew Schulz 32:45 Wild. Wild. The rules of war are so wild.

Joe Rogan 32:50 (laughs) Dude.

Andrew Schulz 32:50 Like when someone says it's a war crime, you know, like... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:54 (laughs) Who decides... Yeah, who decides the levels?

Andrew Schulz 32:56 You can only kill people certain ways. Like, uh, one of the wildest ones was also during World War I. It's a guy named Fritz Haber.

Joe Rogan 33:05 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 33:05 And Fritz Haber, he created the Haber method of extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere that's responsible for some crazy number today, this method is responsible for something about... So see if this is true. I think it's something around 50% of the nitrogen in human bodies today exists because of the Haber method. So 50% of the nitrogen from your food has been extracted from the atmosphere by the Haber method in order to provide fertilizer for plants that we use.

Joe Rogan 33:36 Okay.

Andrew Schulz 33:36 Especially when you're talking about industrialized fertilizer and commercial grade fertilizer where they ju- they have to spray it because the cro- the, the top soil is all dead for a lot of these modern industrial mono-crop agriculture establishments. So Fritz Haber creates this, but he also creates Zyklon A.

Joe Rogan 33:54 All right. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 33:55 He created this gas that they were using t- he used... The gas, they turned it into Zyklon B, they took the smell out of it so they could kill the Jews with it.

Joe Rogan 34:06 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 34:06 And he also used the gas when they were gassing Allied troops in World War I. This was the first time that that had been done.

Joe Rogan 34:14 Chemical warfare.

Andrew Schulz 34:15 So they had these massive fans and gas and they would blow it onto these soldiers and kill them all.

Joe Rogan 34:20 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 34:20 And so he was both being recommended for the Nobel Prize-

Joe Rogan 34:26 Nobel Peace... Yeah, I remember now.

Andrew Schulz 34:27 ... and being a, a war criminal at the same time. He was wanted for crimes against-

Joe Rogan 34:32 Humanity.

Andrew Schulz 34:32 ... humanity.

Joe Rogan 34:33 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 34:33 At the same time, he created the Haber method. What's the matter, Jamie? Nearly 50% of the nitrogen found in human tissues originated-

Joe Rogan 34:40 Wow.

Andrew Schulz 34:40 ... from the Haber-Bosch process. Thus, Haber process serves as the detonator of the population explosion-

Joe Rogan 34:47 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 34:47 ... enabling the global population to increase from 1.6 billion in 1900 to 7.7 billion by 2018. Reverse fuel technology converts electrical energy, water, and air into ammonia without a separate hydrogen electrolysis process. So this is his pr- I mean, he was a legitimate genius. And his story is so fucking tragic. When he was leaving to, uh, go, uh, to the front lines to war to use his gas, it was so controversial. There was so much... His wife committed suicide in front of him, shot herself in the heart, and he left her to go to the front line while she was still alive. H- he left her with his 13-year-old son to take care of her while she tried to ki- she, she eventually died. But I mean, he was... His whole life became...

Joe Rogan 35:33 Did he feel remorse for this at all?

Andrew Schulz 35:34 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 35:35 Or nothing?

Andrew Schulz 35:35 I don't know. But eventually, uh, during World War II, he, uh, was a Jew and he saw all of his other Jewish friends that were scientists get pushed out and arrested and-

Joe Rogan 35:47 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 35:47 ... all these different things that happened to them, and he wound up fleeing. And he died while he was, uh, fleeing.

Joe Rogan 35:52 Jesus.

Andrew Schulz 35:52 I think he died of heart failure. He's probably just racked with stress.

Joe Rogan 35:57 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 35:57 I mean, ugh, the guy's-

Joe Rogan 35:59 Imagine.

Andrew Schulz 35:59 ... his whole life... I mean, what did you do?

Joe Rogan 36:01 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:01 What did you do? You, you created this amazing thing that allows nitrogen to get into the soil and feed-

Joe Rogan 36:07 Feed.

Andrew Schulz 36:08 Gives, feeds millions of people.

Joe Rogan 36:09 Millions of people. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:09 Stopped starvation for millions of people.

Joe Rogan 36:11 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:11 And you also created the gas that's killing your own people in concentration camps.

Joe Rogan 36:16 Yes, of course.

Andrew Schulz 36:16 And you also created war crimes by being the first, first c- government, the first army to spray chemicals-

Joe Rogan 36:25 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:25 ... at the troops that just kills everybody indiscriminately. Men, women, children, anybody downwind, dead.

Joe Rogan 36:32 So then who decides... Like, when is there the conversation where all the countries unanimously agree on what are war crimes and what are not? Like, you can kill someone with a bullet-... that's okay.

Andrew Schulz 36:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 36:42 Right? As long as they are not an innocent civilian.

Andrew Schulz 36:48 Yeah, but then what about metadata, right?

Joe Rogan 36:53 What does that mean?

Andrew Schulz 36:53 Do you know, uh, how they target some people with bombs? Okay. So, let's say you're a terrorist, and let's say you're hanging out in this building.

Joe Rogan 37:02 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 37:02 And the government knows where you are because they have your cellphone.

Joe Rogan 37:06 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 37:07 So they have the metadata of your cellphone. So they know your cellphone is in this room. Shh, boom.

Joe Rogan 37:12 Game over.

Andrew Schulz 37:13 Everybody dead. Everybody dead. Not just you, not just me, not just Jamie. Security staff, everybody.

Joe Rogan 37:19 This is the drone strike, the wedding shit.

Andrew Schulz 37:20 People next door. Yeah, that's what they do.

Joe Rogan 37:22 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 37:23 Yeah. So you know what the percentage is of innocent people that die in drone strikes?

Joe Rogan 37:27 99?

Andrew Schulz 37:28 We don't know really, because here's the problem, and this is, this has to be, like, we have to be kinda honest about this, like, they lie too.

Joe Rogan 37:36 Right.

Andrew Schulz 37:36 Like, they'll say-

Joe Rogan 37:37 Nobody's gonna be like, "I'm a bad guy."

Andrew Schulz 37:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:39 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 37:39 They'll say, "Oh, you killed 30 children."

Joe Rogan 37:41 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 37:42 And, you know, they'll take photos. And so you're getting some of the information as far as the data.

Joe Rogan 37:45 Yeah. They never go, "Good shot."

Andrew Schulz 37:47 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:47 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 37:49 So we don't know the exact numbers. There's estimated numbers, but for sure it's not more bad guys.

Joe Rogan 37:55 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 37:55 For sure, it's more innocents than it is bad guys. And the high estimates are in, like, the 80 and 90% of innocent civilians that die in drone strikes.

Joe Rogan 38:04 And what is the justification for the-

Andrew Schulz 38:05 'Cause there's a bad guy over there. We gotta get that bad guy.

Joe Rogan 38:08 And there-

Andrew Schulz 38:08 And it's in another country, so when it's in another country you can kinda get away with some shit.

Joe Rogan 38:12 But also, I imagine the justification is like, "That one bad guy coulda killed hundreds of thousands of our-"

Andrew Schulz 38:16 Coulda.

Joe Rogan 38:16 "... good guys." That's, that's their steel man argument for it, I imagine.

Andrew Schulz 38:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:20 'Cause they also have to have a justification. It can't happen without them going, "Hey, we thought about this."

Andrew Schulz 38:24 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 38:26 And then, uh, the, imagine the person that you need to pull the trigger on that, or push the button, right? Like, the constitution that they have to have.

Andrew Schulz 38:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:34 That's a lot of guilt. This is, goes back to the sociopathy.

Andrew Schulz 38:37 Oh, they have massive PTSD.

Joe Rogan 38:40 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 38:41 Yeah, those people that run, they say it's a unique form of PTSD 'cause they weren't really there.

Joe Rogan 38:45 Right. They're behind a fucking video console to the-

Andrew Schulz 38:48 They're working a fucking Xbox controller.

Joe Rogan 38:51 Do, have, have, have presidents ever said that? Like, have, like did, did Lincoln write anything about the death toll during the Civil War?

Andrew Schulz 38:59 That's a good question.

Joe Rogan 39:00 Like, I wonder if even modern day, like, does, does Obama talk about it, the people that died?

Andrew Schulz 39:04 No.

Joe Rogan 39:04 The Bushes, like-

Andrew Schulz 39:05 I think you can't.

Joe Rogan 39:06 George Bush has handled Iraq better than anybody in history.

Andrew Schulz 39:10 Just been painting.

Joe Rogan 39:11 He's p- he's just, yeah (laughs) .

Andrew Schulz 39:12 Painting dogs and shit.

Joe Rogan 39:13 Giving little fucking lozenges to Michelle, like-

Andrew Schulz 39:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:16 ... there's nothing that's going on (laughs) .

Andrew Schulz 39:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:18 And maybe you need somebody that's kinda not, not got a lot going on up there to do it.

Andrew Schulz 39:23 Well, I don't think it's a coincidence that they made movies about Dick Cheney afterwards. They made him out to be this monster.

Joe Rogan 39:29 But is that, like, I feel like that's taking all accountability away from the guy who was in charge. Like, it's very easy to be like, "Yeah, it was just him." This guy's gotta cosign it too, and that's the job.

Andrew Schulz 39:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:38 If you're the head coach of the team-

Andrew Schulz 39:40 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 39:40 ... and the assistant coach is making all the bad decisions, we still blame the head coach, right?

Andrew Schulz 39:43 He's also the son of a great man. And, you know, when your dad is Herbert Walker Bush, who was the head of the CIA, and, you know, pre- you, you are second fiddle. You're, you're good at taking directions. And that's why you'd make a good president.

Joe Rogan 39:58 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 39:58 You're a good, handsome man.

Joe Rogan 40:00 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 40:00 We're gonna smoke them out of their holes.

Joe Rogan 40:02 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 40:02 You look like a president.

Joe Rogan 40:03 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 40:03 And then let's let good old Dick take things behind the scenes. And just look at the evidence of what they did, right?

Joe Rogan 40:09 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 40:09 One of the things that they gave Halliburton no-bid contracts for fucking b- b- b- b- billions of dollars to rebuild Iraq.

Joe Rogan 40:15 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 40:15 How wild is this? That the guy who was the vice president-

Joe Rogan 40:19 Was on the board of-

Andrew Schulz 40:20 Is on the, not, he was, he was like the fucking, he was the head of Halliburton before.

Joe Rogan 40:25 Was he getting a piece during his vice presidency?

Andrew Schulz 40:27 Yes. Yes.

Joe Rogan 40:27 Yeah, that seems like a conflict of interest.

Andrew Schulz 40:29 He is blowing these places up.

Joe Rogan 40:33 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 40:33 He's blowing these places up. It, it's like their decisions that are causing these places to get blown up.

Joe Rogan 40:39 If I'm making money, I'm building.

Andrew Schulz 40:40 And then they have these no-bid contr- Dick Cheney resumes role as chairman of Halliburton Company. Oh, he's back.

Joe Rogan 40:45 Wow.

Narrator 40:45 Oh, wait, just hold on.

Joe Rogan 40:46 No, maybe it'll load. When is this?

Narrator 40:47 I don't know.

Andrew Schulz 40:47 This is after he left office?

Narrator 40:49 I might've, 2000, so yeah, this was actually before, right?

Andrew Schulz 40:52 Uh, well, no, this was during the Bush administration, right?

Narrator 40:55 Effective today, 2000. He became president right around-

Andrew Schulz 40:58 Right.

Narrator 40:58 ... then. Right?

Andrew Schulz 41:00 He resumed his role while he was vice president?

Narrator 41:03 No, that's, I don't, I thought, I mis, I misread what was happening here 'cause it said February 1st.

Joe Rogan 41:06 But it says-

Narrator 41:07 I clicked, that's first here 'cause-

Andrew Schulz 41:09 Right.

Narrator 41:10 ... it's the, February 4, uh, 24, 20-

Andrew Schulz 41:11 Cheney will succeed Bill Bradford. Click on it again.

Narrator 41:14 But then it's like an old press release.

Andrew Schulz 41:16 Okay, Dick Cheney resumes role. This is a new article, it says. So look what it says. Um, "Dick Cheney has resumed role of chairman of board of Halliburton effective today, February 1st, 2000."

Narrator 41:26 Yeah, that's-

Andrew Schulz 41:27 "We'll also continue" That's weird that it just came out. "Weird, continuing his current, uh, also continue his current position as chief executive officer of the company, joining Halliburton..." So this was right before the election.

Narrator 41:38 Yeah, I think this is the, the announcement when, yeah, I think I got confused there.

Andrew Schulz 41:41 But February 1st, 2000 means he's already in office, correct? Or is it 2001?

Narrator 41:46 It would be 2001, the election was in 2000.

Andrew Schulz 41:47 It's January 2001 that Bush goes into office, right?

Narrator 41:50 Election was 2000, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 41:51 So this is 11 months earlier, so is he even named as vice president yet?

Joe Rogan 41:56 No, uh. Is he running with him at that time?

Narrator 41:59 He became vice president January 20, so it was one year later exactly.

Andrew Schulz 42:02 Wow. Right, but I'm saying is he named as vice president during the, as a running mate?

Narrator 42:06 Well, I'm checking when they, I don't know when they announced.

Andrew Schulz 42:08 Right? Because that's generally a little later.

Joe Rogan 42:10 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 42:10 Once someone wins the primaries, they announce their VP.

Joe Rogan 42:13 Yeah, but if you're not actually, uh, president, you can hold another position, or vice president. If you're not actually in government, you can up to that date.

Andrew Schulz 42:19 I would like to meet GW.

Narrator 42:21 Yeah, so it says, uh-

Joe Rogan 42:21 You'd like to meet him?

Andrew Schulz 42:22 Yeah, I would like to meet him.

Joe Rogan 42:22 What would you ask him?

Andrew Schulz 42:23 I would just talk to him.

Joe Rogan 42:24 About?

Andrew Schulz 42:25 I wouldn't wanna dig. I would just talk to him. I just wanna find out what makes him tick.

Joe Rogan 42:29 What do you think?

Andrew Schulz 42:30 Um, Halliburton reportedly reached the agreement on July 20th to allow Cheney to retire with a package of an estimated 20 million. Let's go, Dick.

Joe Rogan 42:38 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 42:38 (laughs) It's, I mean, pulled it off, man.

Joe Rogan 42:41 Do you ever wish you didn't know all this stuff?

Andrew Schulz 42:44 Yes.

Joe Rogan 42:44 The ignorance is bliss.

Andrew Schulz 42:46 Yes. I feel...... a tremendous weight of the amount of people that pay attention to the shit I say. It's a tremendous weight, so you feel like there's some things, uh, like, I would rather just be a hayseed-

Joe Rogan 43:00 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 43:00 ... just fucking hanging out on my farm in Kansas, shooting deer with bows and arrows.

Joe Rogan 43:04 Well, that's what I was gonna ask. Like, when you're out shooting deer, and you're not-

Andrew Schulz 43:07 That's my favorite time-

Joe Rogan 43:09 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 43:09 ... that I'm disconnected. I don't have cell phone service.

Joe Rogan 43:12 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 43:12 I don't have shit.

Joe Rogan 43:13 You're not thinking about the deep state?

Andrew Schulz 43:14 No, man. I'm thinking about mountain lions, and I'm thinking about bugling elk-

Joe Rogan 43:19 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 43:19 I'm thinking how my cardio is.

Joe Rogan 43:21 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 43:21 Do I get enough electrolytes in me this morning?

Joe Rogan 43:23 (laughs) Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 43:23 Make sure my protein take is right.

Joe Rogan 43:24 Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 43:25 You know, I'm, uh, I'm going eight fucking miles a day in the mountains.

Joe Rogan 43:29 You like hard shit.

Andrew Schulz 43:31 I do like-

Joe Rogan 43:31 That's something I've, I've, I've noticed about you, and I think it's a really important thing to... It's an important quality to have as you achieve more success, because with success, life can get easier. So, if you're not addicted to difficulty and, like, hard situations, it's easy to just kind of fall into the comfort of nothing-

Andrew Schulz 43:54 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:54 ... 'cause there was a guy who I had on the podcast, uh, Russ, who's just, who's awesome, uh, uh, artist. But he was like, "Yeah, once you get money, like, things become easy, and then anything that's not easy, you get very anxious about and fearful of." So, you like hard things. You admire David Goggins 'cause he's doing-

Andrew Schulz 44:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:13 ... hard shit all the time.

Andrew Schulz 44:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:16 I think a lot of times people don't like hard things, and then when they get success, hard things make them anxious, and they stop doing hard things. And hard things are what make us successful.

Andrew Schulz 44:25 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 44:25 When we have nothing, we have to do hard things.

Andrew Schulz 44:27 Yes.

Joe Rogan 44:27 We have to go up in front of crowds that might not be good. We have to go run fucking really hard. We have to work out really hard, whatever it is. And I wonder if that's when, like, kids who grow up with very wealthy parents are not used to hard things, and they don't really have to do anything hard.

Andrew Schulz 44:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 44:42 And if they don't have that as, like, a core value to them, that doing hard things is good, of course they're gonna be anxious about everything, of course they're gonna use drugs, of course they're gonna be bored out of their fucking mind. So, it's one of those things that, like, I don't know, e- as I've gotten a potentially more comfortable life, I, like, have to, like, force myself to do things I'm afraid of.

Andrew Schulz 45:00 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 45:01 Or I do think that I would just kind of get weak and fall apart.

Andrew Schulz 45:04 Comfort is a warm and enticing poison.

Joe Rogan 45:07 Yep.

Andrew Schulz 45:08 And it's a slow poison.

Joe Rogan 45:10 Yep.

Andrew Schulz 45:10 You can take a little bit of it on the, on the couch, just relaxing.

Joe Rogan 45:13 And it is nice.

Andrew Schulz 45:14 You can take a little of it. It's nice.

Joe Rogan 45:15 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 45:16 But don't let that get into your veins, because it'll make the rest of your life harder.

Joe Rogan 45:19 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 45:19 'Cause you're gonna encounter hard things. And if the hard thing that you don't voluntarily subscribe to, the hard thing that you don't force yourself into-

Joe Rogan 45:28 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 45:28 ... isn't harder than the other things in life, you're gonna have a hard time managing.

Joe Rogan 45:32 Yeah, and it's voluntary.

Andrew Schulz 45:33 It has to be voluntary.

Joe Rogan 45:34 You have to choose it.

Andrew Schulz 45:35 You have to have discipline.

Joe Rogan 45:36 There's a, um-

Andrew Schulz 45:37 I think character is like cardio. I think you have to keep it up.

Joe Rogan 45:40 Yep.

Andrew Schulz 45:41 I do.

Joe Rogan 45:42 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 45:42 I really do.

Joe Rogan 45:43 Yes, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 45:43 You take a few weeks off of cardio, you're like, (gasping) .

Joe Rogan 45:46 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 45:46 I think that's the same with character, and I think it's the same with, uh, d- doing difficult things and also self-assessing, honestly.

Joe Rogan 45:54 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 45:54 Knowing where you fucked up.

Joe Rogan 45:55 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 45:55 Like, there's moments that you have, I'm sure, in your life where you look back. It might have been 10 years ago. You're like, "Fuck."

Joe Rogan 46:01 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:01 "Why'd I say that to that dude?"

Joe Rogan 46:02 Yesterday.

Andrew Schulz 46:02 "I didn't need to-"

Joe Rogan 46:03 (laughs) Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:04 Yeah. "I didn't need to say that."

Joe Rogan 46:04 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 46:04 "I shouldn't have said that."

Joe Rogan 46:05 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:05 "Oh, God. I was just... Wrong place, wrong time."

Joe Rogan 46:07 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:08 "Wrong headspace. Why did I do that? Oh, I was drunk."

Joe Rogan 46:10 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:10 "Why did I say that?"

Joe Rogan 46:11 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:11 "Why did I do that?" The, you know, those things, y- you should know those, too.

Joe Rogan 46:15 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:15 You don't absolve yourself of those things.

Joe Rogan 46:17 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:17 Know those things a- are real, and just always, constantly strive to do better.

Joe Rogan 46:23 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:23 The problem is when people fuck up, they think of themself as that fuck up, and that's a difficult thing for someone with a bad past. Like, dudes that have been in jail, it's really difficult for them. That-

Joe Rogan 46:33 That becomes their identity.

Andrew Schulz 46:34 It becomes a part of who you, you-

Joe Rogan 46:36 (laughs) Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:36 ... recognize that's a part of your behavior characteristics. You don't think-

Joe Rogan 46:39 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:39 ... of yourself as the best you when you made the right decision, when your friend calls you and y- and you, you could tell him, "I'm busy, bro. I can't help you," be like-

Joe Rogan 46:46 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:47 ... "I can put that shit aside. Go help my boy."

Joe Rogan 46:48 Yep.

Andrew Schulz 46:49 "And go help your friend."

Joe Rogan 46:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:50 "And then you show up for him." He's like, "Dude, you're here for me."

Joe Rogan 46:52 You're the man. Thank you so much, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:53 "Thank you, brother. I appreciate it so much, man."

Joe Rogan 46:55 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:55 And, and you're helping him fix his tire or move or whatever-

Joe Rogan 46:58 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:58 ... the fuck it is. Those moments, man, like, unite human beings.

Joe Rogan 47:02 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:03 They're, like, very, very important moments. And that's what everybody should strive for. You should strive for the moments when you worked really hard at something and you accomplished it, when you didn't want to get through a workout, but you did it, when you finished the marathon-

Joe Rogan 47:15 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:15 ... when you, when you apologize for-

Joe Rogan 47:17 (laughs) Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:18 ... for being out of line-

Joe Rogan 47:19 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:19 ... when you tell people how you feel about them, even though it felt vulnerable.

Joe Rogan 47:23 Vulnerable, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:23 That's why I tell you, "I love you so much."

Joe Rogan 47:24 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:25 "You, you inspire me. You're an amazing human being, and I'm so pa- I'm so happy you're in my life." That's-

Joe Rogan 47:29 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:29 ... what we all should be aspiring towards.

Joe Rogan 47:31 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:31 Aspiring to be better versions of ourselves.

Joe Rogan 47:34 And, and aspiring to put ourselves in, in situations that we fear, like, everything you want-

Andrew Schulz 47:38 Yes.

Joe Rogan 47:38 ... is on the other side of what you fear. There's a-

Andrew Schulz 47:39 Yes.

Joe Rogan 47:39 Somebody said that, and I really believe it, though. Like-

Andrew Schulz 47:42 Yes.

Joe Rogan 47:42 ... every situation I put myself in that I'm scared of or anxious about, that I... And even if it doesn't work out perfectly, I do feel this confidence boost that I at least tried.

Andrew Schulz 47:54 Yes.

Joe Rogan 47:54 You know what I mean? I at least fucking tried. I was scared of doing it, and I-

Andrew Schulz 47:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:57 ... fucking tried. And then if it works out, it's the best feeling in the world.

Andrew Schulz 48:00 Yeah, and what I think-

Joe Rogan 48:01 But if I pussy out-

Andrew Schulz 48:02 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:02 ... that's the worst.

Andrew Schulz 48:03 That's the worst feeling.

Joe Rogan 48:04 It is the fucking worst.

Andrew Schulz 48:05 The worst feeling.

Joe Rogan 48:05 But that's the importance of, like... Uh, uh, I don't... I... Like, the nice thing about standup, I guess, is that, like, we know that we can't take months off.

Andrew Schulz 48:15 Right.

Joe Rogan 48:15 It atrophies fast.

Andrew Schulz 48:17 Fast. Weeks off.

Joe Rogan 48:19 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 48:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:20 It's like, we have to go up. We have to constantly go up. And... Yeah, there are, there are things in life that are a million times more difficult that people have to do, but it is one of those things that's built into the thing that we kind of love, which is, we have to keep doing this.

Andrew Schulz 48:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:34 And every time we try something new, it's bad.

Andrew Schulz 48:37 Yeah, but we're also addicted to that accomplishment vibe-

Joe Rogan 48:41 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 48:41 ... that accomplishment energy. Like, when you get so... That, that, uh, that feeling is, uh, uh, amazing feeling of, "Fuck, I did it. I really did."

Joe Rogan 48:49 I also like the chaos of it.

Andrew Schulz 48:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:50 I like it when there's... Like, I, I was hanging on the beach with my wife one Sunday. I'm like, "I'm really bad with vacations if I don't have things to do during it." I, I can't just hang on the beach.

Andrew Schulz 48:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:58 I cannot do it. If I'm surfing, I can do it-

Andrew Schulz 49:00 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:00 ... or if I'm playing paddle, I can do it, but I need to do shit.

Andrew Schulz 49:03 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:04 Give me something to do.

Andrew Schulz 49:05 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:05 And my wife knows it. I don't care if we're, if we're looking at the Coliseum, I'm learning-

Andrew Schulz 49:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:08 ... or I'm asking a fucking tour guide questions.

Andrew Schulz 49:10 Let's go fishing. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:10 L- I need to do a thing-

Andrew Schulz 49:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:12 ... because if I'm not, my brain goes fucking crazy.

Andrew Schulz 49:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:17 It needs to be occupied.

Andrew Schulz 49:18 Yes.

Joe Rogan 49:19 I'm lucky that I have that.

Andrew Schulz 49:20 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 49:21 Imagine I was really comfy doing nothing.

Andrew Schulz 49:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:23 Why would I do anything?

Andrew Schulz 49:24 It's a superpower. It's, uh, it's... But it has to be managed.

Joe Rogan 49:27 That's-

Andrew Schulz 49:27 It's like having a Ferrari engine, you know? If you have a-

Joe Rogan 49:29 What do you mean?

Andrew Schulz 49:30 If you have a Ferrari engine, you know, in a fucking Toyota Corolla-

Joe Rogan 49:35 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 49:35 ... like, that shit doesn't have the tires for it.

Joe Rogan 49:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 49:37 Like, it doesn't have suspect-

Joe Rogan 49:39 You burn out.

Andrew Schulz 49:39 (screams)

Joe Rogan 49:39 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 49:40 Burning.

Joe Rogan 49:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 49:40 You're into a tree.

Joe Rogan 49:42 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 49:42 You know, you, you have to learn how to manage that kind of a mind. And you've built up a suspension and wide tires and-

Joe Rogan 49:49 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 49:49 ... strong carbon fiber ceramic brakes.

Joe Rogan 49:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 49:51 It's like you gotta have all those things.

Joe Rogan 49:53 So, is that what you're constantly doing? Are you constantly looking for more shit you're afraid of in your life?

Andrew Schulz 49:58 Well, difficult things. I like difficult things. I li- I like... That's why I like cold plunging.

Joe Rogan 50:03 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 50:03 I like it 'cause it's hard. People are like, "I hate it."

Joe Rogan 50:05 I hear that.

Andrew Schulz 50:05 I do. I hate... Fu- I fucking like it.

Joe Rogan 50:07 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 50:07 I don't like it.

Joe Rogan 50:08 Yeah. But you-

Andrew Schulz 50:08 Every time I'm about to do it-

Joe Rogan 50:10 You're like, "Fuck this."

Andrew Schulz 50:10 ... there's this little bitch-ass part of my brain-

Joe Rogan 50:12 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 50:12 ... that's like, "Don't do this."

Joe Rogan 50:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 50:14 "You don't need to do this." And, um, the other part of my brain that's just like built up over the years is like, "Shut up, pussy. I'm the boss."

Joe Rogan 50:19 So, it's building the discipline.

Andrew Schulz 50:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:20 It's not even like... Okay, yeah, there are great, uh, what is it? Not side effects, but there are great main effects come of it. Inflammation goes down, whatever.

Andrew Schulz 50:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:26 But it's more about building the fucking discipline to do the shit you don't wanna do.

Andrew Schulz 50:31 Yeah, but also because it's good for you. If it was bad for me, if I didn't wanna do it and every time I did it, it was killing me a little bit (laughs) , I, well, I wouldn't do it. But I, I do it-

Joe Rogan 50:39 But-

Andrew Schulz 50:39 ... 'cause I know it's good for you and I know you feel great when you get out of it.

Joe Rogan 50:43 But Goggins, I'm sure running all those fucking miles, like his joints are destroyed, his feet are fucked up.

Andrew Schulz 50:48 Yep.

Joe Rogan 50:48 Like, there's a certain point of diminishing returns-

Andrew Schulz 50:50 Yes.

Joe Rogan 50:51 ... but-

Andrew Schulz 50:52 But also, you have to have the outlier.

Joe Rogan 50:54 Which is?

Andrew Schulz 50:54 You have to have the dude that's pure mind, that's all just on the drive, and that's Goggins. You have to have the guy who-

Joe Rogan 51:00 So, he's the extreme version of discipline.

Andrew Schulz 51:03 He's uncommon amongst uncommon men.

Joe Rogan 51:05 Got it. Yeah. And you would, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 51:06 Amongst all the psychos out there, he's king psycho.

Joe Rogan 51:08 So, it's not that he runs long. It's that he will do the thing despite that little voice inside of him-

Andrew Schulz 51:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:16 ... saying, "You don't wanna do this. Just chill and relax."

Andrew Schulz 51:18 And he'll tell you he has that voice. He goes, "I stare at my sneakers sometimes for 30 minutes before I put those motherfuckers on."

Joe Rogan 51:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 51:24 He'll tell you, but he always wins. It's like, the dude, when I'm taking the lid off-

Joe Rogan 51:29 I get it, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 51:29 ... that cold plunge-

Joe Rogan 51:30 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 51:30 ... as I'm taking it off-

Joe Rogan 51:31 You're like, "Fuck."

Andrew Schulz 51:31 ... there's like, "Don't do it. Don't do it."

Joe Rogan 51:33 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 51:33 I'm like, "Shut the fuck up. Don't do it."

Joe Rogan 51:36 You got three more episodes, Shogun.

Andrew Schulz 51:37 "Don't do it." I set my watch.

Joe Rogan 51:38 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 51:39 Beep, beep, beep. And I climb right in and (breathes heavily) .

Joe Rogan 51:43 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 51:45 And because I get through it every day, I gotta... I start the day off with a win. I won. I beat the inner bitch.

Joe Rogan 51:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 51:52 I conquered the inner bitch. I got in there, and then I do the workout. That's g- that's win number two, you know?

Joe Rogan 51:57 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 51:57 So, by the time the day is over, I've done shit that most people never do.

Joe Rogan 52:02 What do you feel when, when you're on vacation? Do you feel that-

Andrew Schulz 52:04 Like a crazy person.

Joe Rogan 52:06 Do you feel like you're-

Andrew Schulz 52:06 Like a-

Joe Rogan 52:06 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 52:06 ... wolf on a fucking-

Joe Rogan 52:08 You're a hungry boy.

Andrew Schulz 52:09 ... inflatable pool toy in the ocean.

Joe Rogan 52:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 52:11 Just going, "What am I doing on this fucking thing?"

Joe Rogan 52:13 And is your wife going, "Hey, you need to chill out"?

Andrew Schulz 52:15 Yeah, well, I pr- I, I know how to do it now. First of all-

Joe Rogan 52:18 Okay, good.

Andrew Schulz 52:18 ... every day starts out with a workout.

Joe Rogan 52:20 You... Dude, it's so funny.

Andrew Schulz 52:21 Have to.

Joe Rogan 52:21 I t-

Andrew Schulz 52:21 Have to.

Joe Rogan 52:22 Yeah, I told Emma, I told my wife, I was like, "Listen, we can go to these places."

Andrew Schulz 52:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:25 "The first three hours of the day-

Andrew Schulz 52:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:27 ... I'm doing what I need to do."

Andrew Schulz 52:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:29 "Once I calm it all down, let's fucking drink a, uh, whatever on the beach. I don't care."

Andrew Schulz 52:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:34 "But the first three, I need, I need to do what I need to do."

Andrew Schulz 52:37 I need breaks. Breaks are good, but I don't really need a vacation-

Joe Rogan 52:41 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 52:41 ... 'cause my life is awesome.

Joe Rogan 52:43 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 52:43 I love it. I love... Uh, I've cultivated a wonderful life.

Joe Rogan 52:46 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 52:47 I love my family.

Joe Rogan 52:48 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 52:48 I love my friends. I love my jobs.

Joe Rogan 52:49 Yeah (laughs) .

Andrew Schulz 52:50 So, I'm happy.

Joe Rogan 52:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 52:51 I'm, I'm, I'm a happy dude with what I do. So, when I go on vacation, it's like, "Okay, I'm just wanna just have fun with the family and do a bunch of..."

Joe Rogan 52:58 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 52:58 "But I have to do something about this thing."

Joe Rogan 53:01 And your family knows?

Andrew Schulz 53:01 This bitch, yes. They know me.

Joe Rogan 53:03 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 53:03 Yeah, my-

Joe Rogan 53:03 What about your kids? Are they like, "Okay-"

Andrew Schulz 53:05 They get it.

Joe Rogan 53:05 "... he just needs to work out."

Andrew Schulz 53:06 They get it. They get it.

Joe Rogan 53:07 Do they have it too?

Andrew Schulz 53:08 Uh, yeah, yeah, they both have it.

Joe Rogan 53:10 Really?

Andrew Schulz 53:10 Yeah, they both have some psycho drive. One of them for art, the other one is gymnastics.

Joe Rogan 53:15 And when you see it manifested, like, for example, do you see them looking like the wolf when you guys are all on vacation? Do you see them kind of pacing around?

Andrew Schulz 53:22 They have to do things.

Joe Rogan 53:23 You have to keep them busy.

Andrew Schulz 53:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:24 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 53:24 I got out of a conversation with, uh, my middle daughter, at, at one point in time. She was just like... When we first moved here, she was real anxious. And I go, "You're a racehorse. You gotta get back to racing."

Joe Rogan 53:34 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 53:34 "You gotta get back to competing again." And as soon as she went back to that-

Joe Rogan 53:37 Immediately.

Andrew Schulz 53:37 ... everything was fine. She just was like, you know, didn't know w- we're in a new place-

Joe Rogan 53:42 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 53:42 ... making new friends.

Joe Rogan 53:43 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 53:44 But there's, like, physical anxiety that comes with being a human being, that I think activity diminishes.

Joe Rogan 53:50 Yep.

Andrew Schulz 53:50 And you need-

Joe Rogan 53:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 53:51 ... something like that.

Joe Rogan 53:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 53:51 You need the hardest thing of your day to be something that you choose.

Joe Rogan 53:55 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 53:55 You know, it might not be. You, you, uh, uh, uh, obviously, circumstances are random, and you could have a terrible thing happen to you.

Joe Rogan 54:01 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 54:02 But if you've built up your understanding of how to get through difficult things, it'll serve you in everything you do. And if you do it voluntarily, then you, you've gained control over your mental process. You want a zit?

Joe Rogan 54:16 Yeah, let me get that. So, so, with the kids, do you... Is this something you instill in them?

Andrew Schulz 54:22 You can only do it so much-

Joe Rogan 54:24 Or is this a little genetic?

Andrew Schulz 54:24 ... man. You gotta be real loose-handed. You gotta let them be their own thing. They're their own little people.

Joe Rogan 54:30 And then-

Andrew Schulz 54:30 It's very fascinating.

Joe Rogan 54:32 ... are you rewarding and lighting the fire once you see that they're really drawn to something and-

Andrew Schulz 54:36 Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:37 Got it.

Andrew Schulz 54:37 For sure.

Joe Rogan 54:37 So, you wait for them to choose-

Andrew Schulz 54:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:39 ... and then you lean the fuck in.

Andrew Schulz 54:41 Yeah. Well, you just... Praise is very important for kids. It means a lot. It could really motivate them to excel to higher and higher levels.

Joe Rogan 54:48 Was that easy for you to-

Andrew Schulz 54:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:50 ... to give them the positive encouragement?

Andrew Schulz 54:52 Oh, it's so easy. Yeah. My youngest is an insane artist, dude. I mean-

Joe Rogan 54:55 Let me see.

Andrew Schulz 54:55 ... insane. I'm gonna show you this.... she's 13.

Joe Rogan 55:02 Oh, wow.

Andrew Schulz 55:04 Dude, she was, she was doing crazy, crazy work when she was six. I showed one of her things to David Choe-

Joe Rogan 55:11 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 55:11 ... when she was, like, six or seven. He was like, "Holy fuck, man." Like, dude, she's crazy talented.

Joe Rogan 55:16 Jesus.

Andrew Schulz 55:16 Yeah. And she'll-

Joe Rogan 55:18 How old is she?

Andrew Schulz 55:19 She's 13. She'll sit and she'll, she'll draw for hours and hours, man, just completely locked in and focused. And you know, when I was young, I wanted to be a comic book illustrator.

Joe Rogan 55:31 That memories something-

Andrew Schulz 55:31 So I was an artist when I was young, but I wasn't as good as her. I wasn't as good, I don't think I'm as good as her now, and she's 13.

Joe Rogan 55:38 Do you, uh-

Andrew Schulz 55:39 And it's crazy.

Joe Rogan 55:40 Do you find yourself competing with them at all?

Andrew Schulz 55:42 No. No, no, no, unless we're playing games.

Joe Rogan 55:44 That's what I'm saying.

Andrew Schulz 55:45 Yeah, I'm gonna win.

Joe Rogan 55:46 You... Okay.

Andrew Schulz 55:46 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:47 Do you ever-

Andrew Schulz 55:48 I'm trying to win, I'm trying to win.

Joe Rogan 55:48 Okay, you won't give them a, you won't give-

Andrew Schulz 55:50 No.

Joe Rogan 55:50 Nothing?

Andrew Schulz 55:51 No.

Joe Rogan 55:52 Interesting.

Andrew Schulz 55:52 No.

Joe Rogan 55:53 Does it drive them crazy when they lose?

Andrew Schulz 55:55 No, they win. They win a lot, man. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:57 Okay, okay, okay.

Andrew Schulz 55:58 I took... We did virtual reality and, uh, my 13-year-old beat me at this, uh, sword fighting game, and she fucking loved it. She killed me.

Joe Rogan 56:06 (laughs) And?

Andrew Schulz 56:06 It's like one of these... Uh, do you know what Sandbox is?

Joe Rogan 56:08 No.

Andrew Schulz 56:08 You ever do Sandbox?

Joe Rogan 56:09 Oh, this is the, uh-

Andrew Schulz 56:10 Oh, dude, it's the dopest. Sandbox, you're in a warehouse.

Joe Rogan 56:12 Okay.

Andrew Schulz 56:13 I love it. You have a haptic feedback vest. My favorite one is the zombie one, but we compete-

Joe Rogan 56:18 Ho- hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Andrew Schulz 56:18 ... in the zombie one too.

Joe Rogan 56:20 Expl-

Andrew Schulz 56:21 Okay.

Joe Rogan 56:21 This is a console that you're wearing, like the VR goggles or something?

Andrew Schulz 56:23 No, no. Okay, you go to a place-

Joe Rogan 56:24 Okay.

Andrew Schulz 56:24 ... it's called Sandbox VR.

Joe Rogan 56:26 Okay.

Andrew Schulz 56:26 It's a big warehouse.

Joe Rogan 56:27 Okay.

Andrew Schulz 56:28 And inside these warehouses, they have these spaces that are a little larger than this room.

Joe Rogan 56:32 Okay.

Andrew Schulz 56:32 Okay? And in this space, they give you a virtual reality headset. They give you a haptic feedback vest.

Joe Rogan 56:37 So you can feel-

Andrew Schulz 56:39 You feel like... like you're getting hit or you're getting grabbed by zombies. And then they give you a gun. You have a plastic gun, okay?

Joe Rogan 56:46 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 56:46 And then you see yourself in vir- you see everybody. Everybody has, like, tactical ops outfits on and shit, with helmets, and-

Joe Rogan 56:52 Right.

Andrew Schulz 56:53 ... and you're like, whoo, you high five, you dance, you see each other dressed as these characters. And then, you know, it's basically mapped out to the size of your body.

Joe Rogan 57:00 Right.

Andrew Schulz 57:00 And they put you in these things. So, and then, like, they drop you off in Deadwood Mansion. And Deadwood Mansion is this haunted house and this, like, crazy scientists who've developed zombies, and the zombies start invading the house.

Joe Rogan 57:13 Okay.

Andrew Schulz 57:14 And you're just gunning them down. And we always compete to see who kills the most zombies. But I have a lot of gun experience.

Joe Rogan 57:20 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 57:21 So I fucked those god- zombies up, man. I, at one point in time, had number three in the country or the number three score in the country.

Joe Rogan 57:28 No. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 57:28 Yeah, bro, I went ham.

Joe Rogan 57:29 Oh, this is it here.

Andrew Schulz 57:30 So this is it. So let me just give you a pro tip. If you want this, if you want this game, get the shotgun. Shotgun face shots. You want face shots on zombies.

Joe Rogan 57:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 57:40 Don't be fucking around with the legs. See, the machine guns are fun and everything like that, and you reload by just going like this...

Joe Rogan 57:47 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 57:47 You just point the gun down and it reloads. Bro, it's so fun. I'm so addicted to this game, that you're in this house and it's all, like, dark and shadowy and shit.

Joe Rogan 57:56 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 57:56 And the, the light from your pistol is what's lighting these zombies.

Joe Rogan 58:00 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:00 Bro, it's so much fun.

Joe Rogan 58:03 Oh, this is amazing.

Andrew Schulz 58:03 But, uh, but yeah, I always try to win.

Joe Rogan 58:06 So you try, so this is-

Andrew Schulz 58:07 I always try to kill the most zombies.

Joe Rogan 58:08 This is you and the family.

Andrew Schulz 58:08 So at the end of the day, you get the VIP.

Joe Rogan 58:10 What is the VIP? (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 58:11 The VIP is the most valuable player.

Joe Rogan 58:13 (laughs) The MVP.

Andrew Schulz 58:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:14 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 58:14 It's VIP though, very important player.

Joe Rogan 58:17 Okay.

Andrew Schulz 58:17 Or MV... I don't know if they say MVP, but e- either way-

Joe Rogan 58:20 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:20 ... I always win that shit.

Joe Rogan 58:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:22 I always, I'm not letting anybody win.

Joe Rogan 58:23 So the competitive instinct cannot go away.

Andrew Schulz 58:25 Right, as, as long-

Joe Rogan 58:26 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:26 ... as it's like you're just understanding that everyone's just trying their best.

Joe Rogan 58:29 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:29 So when they beat you, like, "Oh my God." If they beat me at a game or something like that-

Joe Rogan 58:33 You're like-

Andrew Schulz 58:33 ... like, "Goddamn it."

Joe Rogan 58:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:35 They love it. They love it.

Joe Rogan 58:36 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:36 I'm like, "You got me."

Joe Rogan 58:37 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:37 But it's fun when they win. It's fun when they beat you. It's your child that's doing-

Joe Rogan 58:40 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:40 ... something really good.

Joe Rogan 58:41 How old are they now?

Andrew Schulz 58:43 13 and 15, the youngest ones.

Joe Rogan 58:44 Okay. And when they were... Are there moments that you...

Andrew Schulz 58:49 How old is your kid now?

Joe Rogan 58:50 Uh, eight weeks.

Andrew Schulz 58:51 Wow.

Joe Rogan 58:52 So yeah, I'm like, are there... Everybody I talk to goes, "It goes by really fast." That's the first thing they all say when I say, "Eight weeks."

Andrew Schulz 58:58 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:59 And what are the moments in this stretch that you wish that you kind of held onto longer or you didn't realize how amazing they were until they were gone?

Andrew Schulz 59:08 I don't really think like that.

Joe Rogan 59:09 Nothing? Okay. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 59:10 I don't think like that. I'm happy.

Joe Rogan 59:12 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:12 You know, and I'm happy they're healthy and I'm happy that... You know, look-

Joe Rogan 59:16 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:16 ... I have friends that have kids that have real problems, real health problems.

Joe Rogan 59:19 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:19 And it's the most heartbreaking, devastating thing to see someone going through the, the real struggles of a kid that is your child-

Joe Rogan 59:30 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:30 ... that's all fucked up.

Joe Rogan 59:31 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:31 So number one was healthy.

Joe Rogan 59:33 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:33 Like, everybody was like, "Don't you want a boy?" I'm like, "I want healthy kids."

Joe Rogan 59:36 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:36 I don't care if it's a girl or a boy.

Joe Rogan 59:38 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:38 I really, I genuinely didn't care.

Joe Rogan 59:39 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:39 I just want them to be happy-

Joe Rogan 59:41 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:41 ... and healthy. What, you don't like girls? Like, what are you saying?

Joe Rogan 59:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:44 Like, you only want boys?

Joe Rogan 59:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:46 Plus, if I had boys, it would come with the added responsibility of training a psycho.

Joe Rogan 59:51 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:52 'Cause I'm assuming they're gonna be like a little me.

Joe Rogan 59:55 (laughs) Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 59:55 And like, if I didn't find martial arts, I would have been a real problem.

Joe Rogan 59:59 Wait, what do you mean?

Andrew Schulz 1:00:00 If I didn't find some outlet, some competitive, like, dangerous outlet to test me as a man-

Joe Rogan 1:00:07 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:08 ... I was an angry kid, man. Well, it's not good to grow up a boy and be an angry boy and not have an outlet, 'cause you just-

Joe Rogan 1:00:17 Why do you-

Andrew Schulz 1:00:17 ... you won't have control of it. You won't-

Joe Rogan 1:00:18 But why do you think you were angry?

Andrew Schulz 1:00:19 I think a lot of it is genetic.

Joe Rogan 1:00:21 Really?

Andrew Schulz 1:00:22 Yeah, there's a lot of j- there's a... I think a lot of people, like, what's inside of them is genetic. It's learned experiences, being around violence when I was young. There's, there's quite a few things that I think are attached to it. But I think there's some part of it is genetic. There's some part of drive I think that's genetic too, which is interesting when you see your kids have it.

Joe Rogan 1:00:42 Yeah, I've talked to friends about that who have multiple kids and they can see it in some, and, and others they just don't really see it, and it's kind of-

Andrew Schulz 1:00:48 It's out of the box, they're different.

Joe Rogan 1:00:49 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:51 Yeah. Like my, uh, 15-year-old is like hyper focused on things, hyper focused on athletics, hyper focused... But also very loved.... like, doesn't have this desire to prove herself like I had.

Joe Rogan 1:01:03 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:03 I was like, "I'm not a loser. I'm gonna show everybody-"

Joe Rogan 1:01:06 (sighs) Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:07 "... that I'm not a loser."

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:08 That was, like, my drive as a kid. And martial arts were the first thing that I ever did where I was like, "Hey, I'm not a loser."

Joe Rogan 1:01:15 But it's also the most humbling thing.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:17 Oh, the most humbling. Yeah, the most humbling. But I got good at it quick.

Joe Rogan 1:01:20 But still, it's like-

Andrew Schulz 1:01:20 I was- I was- I was very lucky.

Joe Rogan 1:01:21 But there's always someone better at it, I don't know, like even if-

Andrew Schulz 1:01:23 Yeah. But I got lucky that I was going into it at the right time. Like I had some athletic experience, like I had done ... I had wrestled, I'd done baseball, I'd played some sports.

Joe Rogan 1:01:32 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:32 So I wasn't, like, totally inept. I was a ... When I played baseball, well, I was so selfish, I would never try to get on first.

Joe Rogan 1:01:39 (laughs) You- you wanted that double.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:41 Fuck you. Home run-

Joe Rogan 1:01:41 You wanted the (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:01:42 Home run or I strike out.

Joe Rogan 1:01:44 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:44 And they would always tell me, "Just get on base."

Joe Rogan 1:01:46 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:46 I'm like, "Right."

Joe Rogan 1:01:47 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:47 And I'd get up there and I'm like, "I don't give a fuck what you just said."

Joe Rogan 1:01:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:50 "When that ball's coming, I'm either gonna be a loser or a hero."

Joe Rogan 1:01:53 Really?

Andrew Schulz 1:01:53 Let's go. 100%. I never did not try to hit a home run, and they would always be mad at me.

Joe Rogan 1:01:59 And that-

Andrew Schulz 1:01:59 Because I could hit home runs, but I could also strike out.

Joe Rogan 1:02:02 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:03 I struck out a lot.

Joe Rogan 1:02:04 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:02:04 But if I connected-

Joe Rogan 1:02:06 I forget.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:06 ... I had some fucking crank.

Joe Rogan 1:02:07 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:08 I sent that ball flying.

Joe Rogan 1:02:09 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:09 And then I loved it.

Joe Rogan 1:02:10 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:10 I loved watching that ball fly over the fence, like-

Joe Rogan 1:02:13 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:13 I am never not gonna do that. Like, if you tell me, like, "Just bunt." Suck my dick.

Joe Rogan 1:02:18 Can't do it. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:02:18 I'm not bunting. I don't give a fuck if we lose.

Joe Rogan 1:02:20 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:02:21 I don't care.

Joe Rogan 1:02:22 That's why you can't do the team sports.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:24 I'm not interested in team sports.

Joe Rogan 1:02:24 That's why it has to be the one on one.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:26 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:26 I'm not interested, uh, we lost 'cause Billy dropped the ball.

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:29 Go fuck yourself.

Joe Rogan 1:02:29 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:30 I did ... Yeah, I know what I can do.

Joe Rogan 1:02:31 Interesting.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:32 And when I- it's my time at bat, I'm hitting home runs.

Joe Rogan 1:02:35 Interesting.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:35 So when I found that there was martial arts, it was something-

Joe Rogan 1:02:38 Or bow hunting.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:39 Yeah, just me only.

Joe Rogan 1:02:39 I'm going for the home run every time.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:40 It's just me.

Joe Rogan 1:02:41 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:41 And I can get better based entirely on how much effort I put into it.

Joe Rogan 1:02:45 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:46 Then I just became obsessed.

Joe Rogan 1:02:47 But you still love the camaraderie?

Andrew Schulz 1:02:49 I love the camaraderie, but you learn from the other people that are also doing the thing. I wasn't competitive with them with where I had to be better than them. I wanted to be better than the people I was competing against, and they helped me to get better because-

Joe Rogan 1:03:02 These are- these are who? These are the ...

Andrew Schulz 1:03:03 The people I train with.

Joe Rogan 1:03:04 You ... Okay.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:05 Yeah, those are family.

Joe Rogan 1:03:06 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:06 I'm still very good friends with one of my guys that I- I trained with back then.

Joe Rogan 1:03:09 Really?

Andrew Schulz 1:03:09 I talk to him all the time.

Joe Rogan 1:03:11 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:11 Yeah. I've known him since I was ... 52 guys, two of those guys, the, um ... I've known them since I was 15 years old. One of them is just out here to visit.

Joe Rogan 1:03:17 It's- it's funny that you see it even in martial arts, like, you know, when a guy wins, the first thing he does is often compliment his coaches and his team.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:23 Oh, 100%.

Joe Rogan 1:03:24 And we do-

Andrew Schulz 1:03:24 They- you're everything.

Joe Rogan 1:03:24 We need that. We need that shared victory.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:27 Yes. Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:03:27 I've always got that in team sports. I love that. Like, a team win, like, w- me and four other guys playing basketball when we're not as talented as the other team-

Andrew Schulz 1:03:34 And you win.

Joe Rogan 1:03:35 But we win.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:36 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:03:36 Oh, that ... Just going out for beers afterwards talking about our ... I mean, we're old fucking guys, our knees don't work.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:40 But that's a more of a cooperative thing than being at bat.

Joe Rogan 1:03:44 I- That's what I like-

Andrew Schulz 1:03:44 The thing about being at bat-

Joe Rogan 1:03:45 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:45 ... though, is like, "Uh-uh, this is just me."

Joe Rogan 1:03:49 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:49 You're like, "I'm not passing them." Look, if I could pass-

Joe Rogan 1:03:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:51 ... the ball over to you-

Joe Rogan 1:03:52 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:52 ... and you're open and you can get a clean shot-

Joe Rogan 1:03:54 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:54 ... I would 100% do that-

Joe Rogan 1:03:56 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:56 ... if I was playing team sports.

Joe Rogan 1:03:57 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:57 I wouldn't be greedy like that.

Joe Rogan 1:03:58 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:58 But baseball?

Joe Rogan 1:03:59 Yeah, you going for it.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:00 It's just me.

Joe Rogan 1:04:02 Yeah, yeah, you going for it.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:02 That ball's coming.

Joe Rogan 1:04:04 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:04:04 It's going ... I'm sending this bitch into orbit.

Joe Rogan 1:04:06 We only need a single, Joe. (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:09 (laughs) 'Cause they would always get mad at me.

Joe Rogan 1:04:10 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:11 I had this one coach that was, like, very strategic-

Joe Rogan 1:04:13 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:13 ... who was trying to win.

Joe Rogan 1:04:13 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:14 And he knew that if he put me up there, I was cranking that ball.

Joe Rogan 1:04:17 Yeah. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:04:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:20 But that is ... He had like-

Andrew Schulz 1:04:20 But I just wasn't designed for baseball.

Joe Rogan 1:04:23 But that's you in life, though.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:24 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:04:24 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:24 But if I could figure out something where I would be 100% on my own, you know, when I got in there, like fighting, it's 100% just you-

Joe Rogan 1:04:33 Or comedy.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:33 ... or comedy.

Joe Rogan 1:04:33 You built this team, you built all these friends, this community, but when you're on stage, it's just you.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:39 It's all you. It has to be you. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:42 But those people also help you get better. Like, when I'm doing shows and Shane Gillis is on the show-

Joe Rogan 1:04:48 (sighs)

Andrew Schulz 1:04:48 ... and Ron White-

Joe Rogan 1:04:49 Dude.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:49 ... and Brian Simpson-

Joe Rogan 1:04:50 Yeah, you put strong guys on, man.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:51 ... and Hinchcliffe and Derek Poston.

Joe Rogan 1:04:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:52 And I would go on stage an hour and a half into that too.

Joe Rogan 1:04:54 Dude, how funny is Derek, man?

Andrew Schulz 1:04:55 Derek is so good.

Joe Rogan 1:04:56 Derek has grown so much, man.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:57 He's grown so much.

Joe Rogan 1:04:59 Oh my God, dude.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:59 And being at the club, like, he's doing so many sets.

Joe Rogan 1:05:02 Oh, I know. Yeah, he's so grateful, man.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:02 He's just- he's going ... The little boy, fat man-

Joe Rogan 1:05:04 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:04 ... he's going back and forth to the rooms.

Joe Rogan 1:05:06 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:06 He's doing all these sets on the road with you.

Joe Rogan 1:05:09 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:09 And he's doing-

Joe Rogan 1:05:09 He's like a true, like, team guy, like, he comes from sports in that way, like, he's like ... He wants the show to be great.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:15 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:05:15 He wants it, I mean, he's just-

Andrew Schulz 1:05:16 But he's a great human being.

Joe Rogan 1:05:17 He's a fucking great dude.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:18 He's a gem of a human being.

Joe Rogan 1:05:19 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:19 And a happy-

Joe Rogan 1:05:20 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:21 ... sweetheart of a guy. Everybody loves Derek.

Joe Rogan 1:05:22 He's so grateful for you, man, and just the-

Andrew Schulz 1:05:24 I- I'm grateful for him.

Joe Rogan 1:05:25 ... the club and the experience, like, and seeing him-

Andrew Schulz 1:05:26 Well, he was one of the first guys to take a chance-

Joe Rogan 1:05:28 I know.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:28 ... and come out here.

Joe Rogan 1:05:29 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:30 You know, it was like, "I'm with you, Joe."

Joe Rogan 1:05:31 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:31 I'm like, "All right, let's do this."

Joe Rogan 1:05:32 And he is, like, if he says that, he means that shit.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:34 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:34 And watching him grow, dude, like ...

Andrew Schulz 1:05:36 But he knew also when I told him I was gonna do it, I'm like, "We're gonna do this."

Joe Rogan 1:05:40 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:40 "We're gonna do this. You're gonna be the greatest club in the world."

Joe Rogan 1:05:42 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:43 Which is a crazy thing to say, to- to pop up a- a scene in the middle of Texas.

Joe Rogan 1:05:48 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:49 But we did it.

Joe Rogan 1:05:49 It's insane what you done, bro.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:50 But we did it because of guys like Derek-

Joe Rogan 1:05:52 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:52 ... and guys like Hasan and Brian Simpson and Tony Hinchcliffe.

Joe Rogan 1:05:54 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:54 Those guys who moved here early.

Joe Rogan 1:05:56 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:56 Tom Segura moved here early.

Joe Rogan 1:05:57 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:58 When he says I'm in.

Joe Rogan 1:05:59 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:59 When Tom Segura said I was in, like, early on-

Joe Rogan 1:06:01 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:06:01 ... I was like, "Oh, shit, this is happening."

Joe Rogan 1:06:03 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:06:03 'Cause Tom did it early in the pandemic.

Joe Rogan 1:06:06 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:06:06 I started ... I- I bought this house, I sent him a video from my backyard, I go, "Boys, what are you doing? (laughs) What are you doing?"

Joe Rogan 1:06:11 Get