Joe Rogan Experience #2135 - Neal Brennan

1. 0:01 – 1:06

   Cold open: performing vs watching yourself (Chappelle sketch memories)

   1. NBNeal Brennan0:01

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   3. (instrumental music)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Dude.

   5. NBNeal Brennan0:13

      On, in sketches. I could say for the air, but-

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      We're on the air.

   7. NBNeal Brennan0:19

      Oh, we are on the air.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Yeah, we're rolling.

   9. NBNeal Brennan0:21

      I just turned my monitor around 'cause I could see myself and I didn't wanna be. But what in sketches, I'll just open up with a Chappelle story 'cause that's what everybody thinks they're doing here. Dave would be watching himself-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       On the monitors?

   11. NBNeal Brennan0:36

       ... on the monitor.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Hmm.

   13. NBNeal Brennan0:37

       And then, and I'd be like, (laughs) I don't know, man, just be in it. And then I'd turn and I'd tell the cameraman to turn around. He'd be like, "Did Neil tell you to turn around?"

   14. NANarrator0:46

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       (laughs)

   16. NBNeal Brennan0:47

       So he, so he couldn't watch himself. (laughs) It just felt like, you're just, if you're doing Rick James, maybe just be Rick James, not see yourself as Rick James.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Maybe it, like, affirmed-

   18. NBNeal Brennan0:57

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       ... that he's Rick James.

   20. NBNeal Brennan0:59

       No, I- (laughs) Well, yeah-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       When he saw the video.

   22. NBNeal Brennan1:00

       ... Rick James would look at a monitor of him.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Yes.

   24. NBNeal Brennan1:02

       Absolutely.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       In that character-

   26. NBNeal Brennan1:03

       As a-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       ... I would imagine.

   28. NBNeal Brennan1:04

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       That's actually a good move.

   30. NBNeal Brennan1:05

       (laughs)

2. 1:06 – 2:58

   OJ Simpson news, fake posts, and Norm Macdonald’s relentless OJ run

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:06

      By the way, rest in peace, OJ Simpson.

   2. NBNeal Brennan1:08

      Rest in... Oh, my God.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:09

      Rest in peace.

   4. NBNeal Brennan1:09

      Rest in peace, OJ. Juice.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:11

      We lost, we lost the Juice today.

   6. NBNeal Brennan1:11

      We love you, Juice. (laughs) Juice, we love you.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:15

      Sam Tripoli, uh, posted something on Twitter today. It was OJ Simpson, it just said, "I did it." He, he posted it on Instagram.

   8. NBNeal Brennan1:22

      Oh.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:22

      But I guarantee you that that's fake.

   10. NANarrator1:25

       Yeah, it's like, it looks like a fake tweet.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       Yeah.

   12. NBNeal Brennan1:27

       I watched-

   13. NANarrator1:28

       How did not look like he did that before he passed away.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       There's a lot of fake tweets.

   15. NBNeal Brennan1:29

       There's a video of, uh, a compilation of Norm doing OJ jokes.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:35

       (laughs)

   17. NBNeal Brennan1:35

       And it's 11 minutes. (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:38

       (laughs)

   19. NBNeal Brennan1:39

       And I watched it, I watched it and then went back-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:42

       (sighs)

   21. NBNeal Brennan1:42

       ... and started, it was, it's so glory, it was so relentless.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:46

       He was so good.

   23. NBNeal Brennan1:47

       He was so fucking funny.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:49

       He was so good.

   25. NBNeal Brennan1:50

       We're talking about OJ. No, he was-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       Ugh.

   27. NBNeal Brennan1:52

       Norm was so fucking funny-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:55

       He was so good.

   29. NBNeal Brennan1:55

       ... and the glint in his eyes.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:57

       Yes.
3. 2:58 – 10:08

   Why network TV (and SNL) feels handcuffed: executives, fear, and format limits

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:58

      Well, SNL seems like they handicap themselves, like they're handcuffing themselves.

   2. NBNeal Brennan3:03

      Back then it was, but it-

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:04

      Less, less back then, but now for sure.

   4. NBNeal Brennan3:08

      I haven't watched very much. I'm, um, me and Jost are friends. I haven't, I just haven't seen it in a long time.

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:14

      He's funny.

   6. NBNeal Brennan3:14

      Yeah, Jost is very funny. But like-

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:16

      He's very funny.

   8. NBNeal Brennan3:16

      And, uh, but, but I haven't seen it. I, I, yeah, I haven't seen it. I had a sketch that I wanted Jost... I wrote so that, so the week Shane got fired, whatever, unhired, I thought of a sketch and I texted... I was gonna be in New York. And I have sort- I had like a sort of open door policy at SNL where I could just write 'cause I wrote there with Dave. So, so I had a sketch idea for Jost where it's like, it was a, it was a couple is getting ready to, they're in bed and they're like, "So any, um, STDs you wanna, you wanna tell me about?" And they're like, "No, I'm clean." And then, uh, "Any, uh, podcasts?"

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:58

      Ugh. (laughs)

   10. NBNeal Brennan4:00

       And we wrote, and then it was like, ah, I did one. It was, it was like, it was a good idea about Shane, but like whatever. And then we wrote it and then it kinda got shelved, like the- I, my understanding was some of the people at the show didn't appreciate-

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:19

       (flatulates)

   12. NBNeal Brennan4:20

       ... this. And then I was hoping Jost, I was gonna text Shane and be like, "Hey, there's a sketch you should do." But I didn't wanna be like-

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:26

       There's room for-

   14. NBNeal Brennan4:26

       ... you know, advocate.

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:27

       ... a show like, well, Gillian Keeves is that. Have you watched Gillian Keeves? Shane's, Shane's show?

   16. NBNeal Brennan4:30

       I am, I mean, I think I've seen a couple of his sketches, but yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:31

       Fucking amazing. It's fucking amazing. It's underappreciated. Within the sh- the Gillian Keeves fans it's really appreciated, but the mainstream does not know how good those sketches are. He does, uh, only, uh, OnlyFans Dad, a dad who needs to make money and so he, he does OnlyFans. (laughs)

   18. NBNeal Brennan4:49

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:49

       It's fucking insane. It's insane. He does this Trump speed dating sketch. Oh my God.

   20. NBNeal Brennan4:54

       Oh, that one I think I saw. That, that show's very funny.

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:56

       They're so good. They're so good.

   22. NBNeal Brennan4:58

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:58

       Because it's buck wild. Because they're on the internet and Patreon and you kinda get away with doing whatever the fuck you want, and it just has to be funny. And, but that's really, you can't do that anywhere. You know, if you're on network television, you're dealing with so many executives. They're all terrified and everyone's scared and e- everyone's ideologically captured and you, there's certain things you can't joke around about. And it's like, God, there's so much ground you can't cover. And it's just, you handicap yourself. You just, you just handcuff yourself. And-

   24. NBNeal Brennan5:27

       Well, it's also the, the, as two aged men who have seen many parts of d- uh, many eras of show business, it seemed, it's, it's so r- the whole thing has got the, the... TV now feels like a 78-year-old woman who still thinks she's fine.

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:49

       (laughs)

   26. NBNeal Brennan5:49

       And it's like, bitch, you're not fine no more. You don't gotta carry yourself like, like you, like, you know, everyone wants to fuck me. It's like, not really.

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:59

       Yeah.

   28. NBNeal Brennan5:59

       You, you have all, like, the props from when everyone wanted to fuck you, but there's a lot of other women out here now.

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:05

       Yeah.

   30. NBNeal Brennan6:05

       And they still think... They haven't really adjusted. They kinda can't.
4. 10:08 – 22:22

   Streaming era tradeoffs: Netflix metrics, cliffhangers, and attention engineering

   1. NBNeal Brennan10:08

      What would you do if you were the owner of NBC Univers- you know what I mean? Like, I don't know what these companies should do.

   2. JRJoe Rogan10:16

      Well-

   3. NBNeal Brennan10:16

      Comedy Central's basically a production company now, like they don't-

   4. JRJoe Rogan10:19

      Yeah. Well, they're doing the right thing, I think, in switching to streaming, right? So i- it's just a matter of being able to get enough quality stuff on streaming and g- get people over there. So they- they're gonna have to shell out a lot of money for big properties, and they've done that with, like- you know, Disney's done that and Paramount's done that and a- a few of these viable streaming platforms have managed to make, like, really good shows and put them on streaming. And then they can still do that. You know, like, there's shows like Shogun, you know, which is just fucking so good. But, you know, it exists in both. It exists in streaming and on television and- and they- they kind of make it for that, you know. You still have the commercial breaks, but when you watch on streaming, you just get the full episode.

   5. NBNeal Brennan11:04

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan11:04

      And-

   7. NBNeal Brennan11:04

      I also think there's probably very little input from advertisers, meaning-

   8. JRJoe Rogan11:08

      Right.

   9. NBNeal Brennan11:08

      ... if something's popular, people will just wanna advertise on it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan11:12

       Right.

   11. NBNeal Brennan11:12

       They won't give a shit-

   12. JRJoe Rogan11:13

       Right.

   13. NBNeal Brennan11:14

       ... what the message- is it family hour?

   14. JRJoe Rogan11:16

       Right.

   15. NBNeal Brennan11:16

       Is this- does this line up with Procter & Gamble's values or any of that shit?

   16. JRJoe Rogan11:21

       Right. Right.

   17. NBNeal Brennan11:21

       It's just like, "Uh, yeah, are there eyeballs? Let's go."

   18. JRJoe Rogan11:24

       Yeah. But even then, I mean, there's people that try to push back even against Shogun. There was this thing about, like, why are there no black people on Shogun? Like, well-

   19. NBNeal Brennan11:32

       Ah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan11:33

       Well, what do you think it's about (laughs) ? It's about Japan.

   21. NBNeal Brennan11:36

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan11:36

       It's like, what are you talking about?

   23. NBNeal Brennan11:38

       It's about- I thought it was about guns.

   24. JRJoe Rogan11:38

       It's about Japan in the 1600s. Like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

   25. NBNeal Brennan11:41

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan11:41

       This is exactly what it is. You know?

   27. NBNeal Brennan11:44

       Yeah. I'm- I hope that didn't get very far.

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:46

       No, it doesn't get far.

   29. NBNeal Brennan11:47

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:47

       But it's like, they try and that's the- indicative of the kind of pressures that those people feel behind the scenes.
5. 22:22 – 30:45

   Freedom of speech vs information chaos: bots, foreign influence, and AI “truth tools”

   1. NBNeal Brennan22:22

      Yeah, the, the, I, 'cause I think about I'm not very... So I feel like you're paranoid, or not paranoid, you're skeptical of control, right?

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:34

      Yeah.

   3. NBNeal Brennan22:35

      And I ten- And I, and I always go, "Why am I not skeptical of control?" Like, compared to you or compared to, like, a guy like Dave, who's also very skeptical of any sort of authority or, or-

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:45

      Mm-hmm.

   5. NBNeal Brennan22:46

      ... uh, institution. And I think, I was thinking I'm so glad to not be under the Catholic Church anymore.

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:54

      (laughs)

   7. NBNeal Brennan22:54

      (laughs) That everything is better.

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:57

      Right.

   9. NBNeal Brennan22:57

      To me, like, the government, I don't give a fuck.

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:59

       Right.

   11. NBNeal Brennan23:00

       Like, I truly don't... Apple, you wanna listen in? Good. I don't give a shit. You can't send me to hell.

   12. JRJoe Rogan23:07

       (laughs)

   13. NBNeal Brennan23:07

       So I don't even care if you overhear me. I don't... I just, this is better than the way I grew up.

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:14

       Right.

   15. NBNeal Brennan23:15

       Even, uh... And then I'm, but I am, I'm skeptical. It's, it's one of those yin-yang things, where I'm skeptical of too much, uh, information chaos.

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:27

       Yeah.

   17. NBNeal Brennan23:27

       You know?

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:28

       Yeah.

   19. NBNeal Brennan23:28

       And it, it, it really... I'm sure the- this will be probably the balance of the next at least 20 years.

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:35

       Well, information chaos is also engineered, and that's one thing to take into consideration. That i- information chaos is not always organic, and a lot-

   21. NBNeal Brennan23:42

       I agree, but-

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:43

       Yeah.

   23. NBNeal Brennan23:43

       And then what about that? If, if-

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:45

       Yeah.

   25. NBNeal Brennan23:45

       If, you know, Russia or China-

   26. JRJoe Rogan23:47

       Mm-hmm.

   27. NBNeal Brennan23:47

       ... are enem- are "enemies," qu- in quotes, wink-wink, whatever.

   28. JRJoe Rogan23:51

       Yup.

   29. NBNeal Brennan23:52

       Like, what... You know, if somebody, uh, if somebody's b- Dave made a point that if you're, if a country has racial divisions anyway, and then a, and then an outside actor so, you know-

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:06

       Mm-hmm.
6. 30:45 – 40:21

   Political powerlessness, money in elections, and ideological capture on the left/right

   1. NBNeal Brennan30:45

      I- my feeling on that is that people...... are, in some ways, are informed, and we're all kind of powerless to change it.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:53

      There's a little bit of that right now.

   3. NBNeal Brennan30:54

      Do you know what I mean?

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:55

      Yeah.

   5. NBNeal Brennan30:55

      Like, Citizens United or, like, dark money, or AstroTurfing, or, or, or porking bills, or tying things together, or emergency. It's just all the shit of, like, how the fuck are we supposed to even d- move the needle at all as people?

   6. JRJoe Rogan31:13

      Right.

   7. NBNeal Brennan31:14

      At all. It's, it seems impossible.

   8. JRJoe Rogan31:17

      It definitely does now.

   9. NBNeal Brennan31:17

      The way the shit's set up.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:19

       Yeah.

   11. NBNeal Brennan31:20

       Um-

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:20

       It definitely does now.

   13. NBNeal Brennan31:21

       And I don't, and AI doesn't seem like... Oh, I don't think the, I don't think the problem is a lack of understanding. I think the problem is a, it's the system is set up so that it's, the only way to get a law made is like getting a building named. You gotta have 10 million bucks.

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:37

       Yeah, there's a little bit of that going on too. I mean, it's, there's no way to run for president unless you have hundreds of millions of dollars backing you, which is just insane. It's insane. And money in politics-

   15. NBNeal Brennan31:47

       There's no way to run for Senate-

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:49

       Yeah.

   17. NBNeal Brennan31:49

       ... without, without a hund- you know, a hundred.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:51

       Right. You're, you're getting a job that's $150,000 a year, and you're spending hundreds of millions.

   19. NBNeal Brennan31:54

       People in the primary have a hundred.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:57

       Yeah.

   21. NBNeal Brennan31:57

       Sweetie.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:58

       Isn't that nuts?

   23. NBNeal Brennan31:58

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:59

       Isn't that nuts?

   25. NBNeal Brennan31:59

       Yeah, it's insane.

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:00

       People like Nikki Haley, that had no chance of being president, had hundreds of millions of dollars behind them.

   27. NBNeal Brennan32:05

       Yeah, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:05

       It's bananas.

   29. NBNeal Brennan32:05

       And that's just like, "Oh, fourth runner-up."

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:08

       Yeah.
7. 40:21 – 42:35

   Aging, relationships, and the economics of dating famous older men (Pacino/De Niro/Murdoch)

   1. JRJoe Rogan40:21

      Al Pacino just had a kid. Al Pacino is 80 years old.

   2. NBNeal Brennan40:24

      Oh, I know. Fuck.

   3. JRJoe Rogan40:25

      80 years old.

   4. NBNeal Brennan40:26

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan40:26

      And he also wanted to make sure the kid was his, which is, like, a great way to start.

   6. NBNeal Brennan40:31

      Somebody I know was doing pick-up at school with- with De Niro.

   7. JRJoe Rogan40:36

      Oh.

   8. NBNeal Brennan40:37

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan40:38

      Yeah.

   10. NBNeal Brennan40:38

       Like recently.

   11. JRJoe Rogan40:39

       He just had a kid.

   12. NBNeal Brennan40:39

       It was just like-

   13. JRJoe Rogan40:40

       Yeah.

   14. NBNeal Brennan40:41

       I can't believe you're still doing this.

   15. JRJoe Rogan40:43

       Well, isn't this his like ... I mean, how many times has he been married? This guy's just d- just dive right back in.

   16. NBNeal Brennan40:48

       Yeah, I've never understood that.

   17. JRJoe Rogan40:50

       I think-

   18. NBNeal Brennan40:50

       I've never understood that need. And like Robert Murdoch just did it.

   19. JRJoe Rogan40:52

       I think-

   20. NBNeal Brennan40:52

       Robert Murdoch just got engaged.

   21. JRJoe Rogan40:54

       Yeah. I think they're just comfortable with having a partner, and they just don't wanna exist in this weird state where they're texting people and calling people. Especially when you're in your 70s.

   22. NBNeal Brennan41:03

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan41:06

       You're trying to-

   24. NBNeal Brennan41:06

       No, it's-

   25. JRJoe Rogan41:06

       You're trying to hook up.

   26. NBNeal Brennan41:06

       Don't get me wrong, it's humiliating.

   27. JRJoe Rogan41:08

       Right. I bet if you're a 70-year-old famous guy and you get divorced, I bet, I bet it's probably pretty easy to find someone new who, like, plays the role, and probably pretty easy to get duped. Pretty easy.

   28. NBNeal Brennan41:23

       Yeah. 'Cause they know-

   29. JRJoe Rogan41:25

       Yeah. Yeah.

   30. NBNeal Brennan41:25

       ... for, like, the c- The time is on my ... If I'm the girl, my time-
8. 42:35 – 48:04

   Eyesight decline, red-light therapy, and avoiding unnecessary surgeries

   1. JRJoe Rogan42:35

      You can mitigate some of that. Um, there's, uh, there's, uh, there- there's certain vitamins that you could take that stop macular degeneration. Um, Pure Encapsulations has a macular support formula.

   2. NBNeal Brennan42:46

      But does it work?

   3. JRJoe Rogan42:47

      It's legit. Yeah, it stopped it. It stopped it for me.

   4. NBNeal Brennan42:49

      For you?

   5. JRJoe Rogan42:50

      Yeah, it to- totally stopped it. Totally stopped it.

   6. NBNeal Brennan42:52

      You were, like ... Do you wear glasses? Contacts?

   7. JRJoe Rogan42:54

      I was ... I can, yeah. I- I wear, I wear, I wear glasses when I write.... you know, I wear reading glasses when I write, but I can look at my phone, no problem. I could read websites, no problem.

   8. NBNeal Brennan43:02

      Did it get better or just stop?

   9. JRJoe Rogan43:03

      It got a little better. Yeah.

   10. NBNeal Brennan43:04

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan43:04

       A little better with red light too, red light therapy. You have a red light bed that I lie in.

   12. NBNeal Brennan43:10

       And that, do you, are your eyes open?

   13. JRJoe Rogan43:12

       Yeah. You gotta keep your eyes open.

   14. NBNeal Brennan43:14

       And, uh, you're laying in a bed. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan43:17

       Yeah. It's just staring at red lights, just chilling. Usually, I just listen to books.

   16. NBNeal Brennan43:22

       Yeah. I would like to do that, 'cause it's, it gets w- it's worse. It just gets... It's such a bummer.

   17. JRJoe Rogan43:27

       Ari got surgery. He got LASIK on his eyes, and then his eyes got worse after the surgery. They got better-

   18. NBNeal Brennan43:33

       That can happen sometimes, right?

   19. JRJoe Rogan43:34

       Well, you have the natural course of macular degeneration that takes place as you age. So his eyes were great at first, like, "This is great. I don't have to wear glasses anymore." And then a couple years later, five, six, seven years later, starts getting really shitty again. And it's just... They go, "Yeah, that's just what happens."

   20. NBNeal Brennan43:50

       Yeah. I think that happened to Bill Maher too. It got wor-... He couldn't... He kept getting LASIK.

   21. JRJoe Rogan43:56

       (sighs)

   22. NBNeal Brennan43:56

       I... And maybe I'm remembering this wrong. And then at a certain point, they're like, "We can't LASIK you in. You just have to wear glasses."

   23. JRJoe Rogan44:02

       Oh, that's scary. Getting more and more eye surgeries is fucking terrifying.

   24. NBNeal Brennan44:07

       Yeah. That's, that's probably the m- the one that makes you wince the most.

   25. JRJoe Rogan44:11

       Because it doesn't go-

   26. NBNeal Brennan44:11

       Those, those videos.

   27. JRJoe Rogan44:12

       It doesn't go well every time. Like there's-

   28. NBNeal Brennan44:15

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan44:15

       ... certain times where people get infections or it just doesn't heal right or-

   30. NBNeal Brennan44:18

       Or you just, your eyes are fucked-
9. 48:04 – 54:35

   Stem cells, dental coatings, and the fluoride argument (plus how info gets messy fast)

   1. NBNeal Brennan48:04

      There's one of these in, uh... Jimmy, if you'd bring this up, there was... There's a f- there's a film that they can put on teeth that will basically just prevent cavities forever.

   2. JRJoe Rogan48:16

      Really?

   3. NBNeal Brennan48:17

      Yeah. I saw it, like, three weeks ago. There's, like, a, a microscopic film, invisible, you, like-

   4. JRJoe Rogan48:23

      Wow.

   5. NBNeal Brennan48:23

      ... they, like, kind of paint it on. They wanna do it on kids.

   6. JRJoe Rogan48:27

      Wow.

   7. NBNeal Brennan48:27

      Uh, like, uh, low-income kids and, uh, and the... It will... Again, maybe I misread it. Jimmy, if you'd look it up.

   8. JRJoe Rogan48:36

      Wow.

   9. NBNeal Brennan48:36

      Um-

   10. JRJoe Rogan48:37

       I haven't heard of that. That's crazy.

   11. NBNeal Brennan48:38

       Yeah. No, it's a new thing, but there are... And I'm not even... I mean, I g- I am conspiracy-minded in terms of like, yeah, people will try to prevent that. But I wonder which ones they'll let through.

   12. JRJoe Rogan48:48

       Well, if there's money in painting people's kids with that stuff, they might let it through. The scariest one is fluoride. The fluoride in the water thing is bananas, 'cause they're like, "Oh, it prevents tooth decay." It also fucking causes a drop in IQ that's absolutely measurable. If you could see the difference between the amount of fluoride in a water and the amount of i- the, the drop in IQs in that area, it's, there's a direct correlation.

   13. NBNeal Brennan49:11

       It's a... But it's in, like, a lot of countries.

   14. JRJoe Rogan49:14

       ... fluoride is a weird one, man, because there's a lot of, like, very credible scientists that would point to the fact that fluoride is a neurotoxin. It's not good for you at all. And they're like, "Oh, yeah, but in small doses." But fucking says who? Says who? And for what purpose? The way I point it out is like, s- say if someone gets skin cancer, and you say, "Okay, well, we're gonna put sunscreen in all the apples." Well, hey, hold the fuck on. How about just brush your fucking teeth? Why do you have to put that shit in the water? So every time I cook spaghetti, I have fluoride in my fucking spaghetti. Like, what are we doing? Like, who-

   15. NBNeal Brennan49:47

       Yeah. I mean, I don't, I, I'm curi- 'cause I looked this up recently 'cause I, what I've heard is the, the amount of fluoride that makes it toxic is, like, just a s- huge amount. It's like the dog eating chocolate thing.

   16. JRJoe Rogan49:58

       Right.

   17. NBNeal Brennan49:59

       Did you ever look up how much chocolate a dog has to eat-

   18. JRJoe Rogan50:01

       To kill one?

   19. NBNeal Brennan50:02

       ... to kill it? Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan50:02

       Yeah.

   21. NBNeal Brennan50:02

       It's like half its body weight or something. It's like, it's a huge amount. And I, what I remember is that in order for fluoride to be toxic, it's gotta be a m- a major amount.

   22. JRJoe Rogan50:13

       Right. But there's a correlation between high levels of fluoride in water and low IQs. There's, we don't really know, and it's the developmental cycle of a child that you're interfering with.

   23. NBNeal Brennan50:24

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan50:24

       So if you take children and you give them this neurotoxin and you, you have it in the water to prevent them from getting cavities, and you literally lower their IQ, which seems possible.

   25. NBNeal Brennan50:34

       Yeah, I don't know.

   26. JRJoe Rogan50:35

       This is-

   27. NBNeal Brennan50:35

       I don't know how they came to the decision.

   28. JRJoe Rogan50:37

       And there's no fucking reason to do it. There's no reason to do it. It's stupid. Cavity-fighting liquid prevents 80% of cavities, finds largest US study. New treatment uses silver diammine fluoride.

   29. NBNeal Brennan50:50

       Sorry, buddy. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan50:50

       Which is an inexpensive liquid that prevents cavities.
10. 54:35 – 1:14:55

    Synanon cult doc and the rise of comedians as “moral arbiters”

    1. NBNeal Brennan54:35

       I, I have a thing in my, in my new, uh, Netflix about, where I'm talking about you, I'm talking ab- I'm talking about the outsize role that, um, you know, because corporation, uh, corporate leaders have been, are basically a piece of shit. Politicians are a piece of shit. Clergy, imams, pastors are pieces of shit. Now, somehow it's all become like, "Well, what do the clowns think?"

    2. JRJoe Rogan55:02

       Zzz, zzz, zzz, zzz, zzz.

    3. NBNeal Brennan55:03

       Now it's up to the, now it's up to comedians to be the moral arbiters. And it's you, Dave, I mentioned Ellen, I mentioned Kevin Hart, I mentioned just all these people that's like, why are you guys consi- I mean, I know why, 'cause it's just everyone else-... couldn't do it. (laughs) And comedians have opinions. And like, Carlin was moral, sometimes. Uh, Jon Stewart is moral, you know. But I don't... But it's one of these things. It's like, it shouldn't be up to us, guys.

    4. JRJoe Rogan55:34

       Right.

    5. NBNeal Brennan55:35

       We're like... We shouldn't be the backstop. We're- we shouldn't be the moral backbone of America.

    6. JRJoe Rogan55:42

       We're one of the rare people, the rare groups of people, that are allowed to speak freely.

    7. NBNeal Brennan55:47

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan55:47

       And that's what it is. It's like, we're the one... As long as we can find an angle where it's funny, w-

    9. NBNeal Brennan55:53

       Well, that's the thing is people are mad. It's like on here, people get mad at you for not being, uh, reading the talking points of the National Institutes of Health. You know what I mean?

    10. JRJoe Rogan56:06

        Mm-hmm.

    11. NBNeal Brennan56:06

        Like, what do- I never understand what people want you to be. Like, what do you th- or walk me through this, where Joe says everything you want him to say.

    12. JRJoe Rogan56:15

        It's not possible.

    13. NBNeal Brennan56:16

        Uh, it's also not... It's not a show anymore.

    14. JRJoe Rogan56:19

        Right. But you also, you can't make everyone happy. It's l- impossible.

    15. NBNeal Brennan56:23

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan56:23

        And if you try to operate in this world where you're trying to make people happy versus just trying to be honest-

    17. NBNeal Brennan56:30

        Right.

    18. JRJoe Rogan56:30

        ... you're fucked. You're fucked. You're fucked from the jump. There's no way to do that. It's not possible. You won't be you anymore. You will be compromised.

    19. NBNeal Brennan56:38

        Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan56:39

        You know. I mean, I- I feel that about so many things. I feel that about reading comments. I don't think you should read comments.

    21. NBNeal Brennan56:45

        I- I don't... I think that it's- it's a- it's been a detriment-

    22. JRJoe Rogan56:50

        Yeah.

    23. NBNeal Brennan56:50

        ... to certainly, like, public comment. It... Or what- what- whatever we do, whatever, like public speaking to... 'Cause it really does kind of... You think about like, "Well, what are they gonna... What's the worst thing you could possibly say about what I'm thinking of saying?"

    24. JRJoe Rogan57:07

        Right. Well, it's also-

    25. NBNeal Brennan57:08

        And it's a bad way to approach things, I think.

    26. JRJoe Rogan57:10

        It's also people that are deeply dishonest-

    27. NBNeal Brennan57:12

        Of course.

    28. JRJoe Rogan57:12

        ... and they twist-

    29. NBNeal Brennan57:13

        And- and deeply unhappy and deep-

    30. JRJoe Rogan57:14

        Yeah.

Episode duration: 2:30:10