Joe Rogan Experience #2135 - Neal Brennan

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NBNeal Brennan0:01

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   3. (instrumental music)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Dude.

   5. NBNeal Brennan0:13

      On, in sketches. I could say for the air, but-

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      We're on the air.

   7. NBNeal Brennan0:19

      Oh, we are on the air.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Yeah, we're rolling.

   9. NBNeal Brennan0:21

      I just turned my monitor around 'cause I could see myself and I didn't wanna be. But what in sketches, I'll just open up with a Chappelle story 'cause that's what everybody thinks they're doing here. Dave would be watching himself-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       On the monitors?

   11. NBNeal Brennan0:36

       ... on the monitor.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Hmm.

   13. NBNeal Brennan0:37

       And then, and I'd be like, (laughs) I don't know, man, just be in it. And then I'd turn and I'd tell the cameraman to turn around. He'd be like, "Did Neil tell you to turn around?"

   14. NANarrator0:46

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       (laughs)

   16. NBNeal Brennan0:47

       So he, so he couldn't watch himself. (laughs) It just felt like, you're just, if you're doing Rick James, maybe just be Rick James, not see yourself as Rick James.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Maybe it, like, affirmed-

   18. NBNeal Brennan0:57

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       ... that he's Rick James.

   20. NBNeal Brennan0:59

       No, I- (laughs) Well, yeah-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       When he saw the video.

   22. NBNeal Brennan1:00

       ... Rick James would look at a monitor of him.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Yes.

   24. NBNeal Brennan1:02

       Absolutely.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       In that character-

   26. NBNeal Brennan1:03

       As a-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       ... I would imagine.

   28. NBNeal Brennan1:04

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       That's actually a good move.

   30. NBNeal Brennan1:05

       (laughs)
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Okay, but you... I've…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      it's available anytime you want it. They love the fact there's no commercials. All that shit is just... they're just trapped. And if I was a network executive, if I was at the top of the food chain, I would be really thinking like, "Is there another way to do this? Does it have to be this way? Does it have to be commercial breaks?" Because nobody watches those, they're not good, they're not funny.

   2. NBNeal Brennan15:19

      Okay, but you... I've heard, and I haven't experienced because I haven't made a show at Netflix other than stand-up, the, there are things that they, they need you to hit certain shit by minute 10, uh, the end of every episode has to be a cliffhanger.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:36

      Oh, really?

   4. NBNeal Brennan15:36

      That's what I've heard. I haven't experienced firsthand but... So, so it's... as a, you know, show creator, I wonder if there is a imperative to want it. It's... you kinda wanna know the, with the information-

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:50

      Mm-hmm.

   6. NBNeal Brennan15:50

      ... in terms of like when do people turn the shit off?

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:53

      Right.

   8. NBNeal Brennan15:53

      When do... it will, will... I heard something like if they watch the first three, then they'll watch 10. Like, you have to... so they're like, "Front load the first three with plot, character, maybe se-" I don't even know what the info, so I'm kinda talking out of my ass a little bit, but I do know that they have information.

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:13

      So it's a formula.

   10. NBNeal Brennan16:14

       That they're... yeah, that they want... it's like you want people to watch your shit or not?

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:18

       Yeah.

   12. NBNeal Brennan16:18

       Like, I, I, I... in my, my new special's 53 minutes 'cause I don't need it... I never, I've never been like, "Oh, good. It's an hour 20." I... it's never better longer to me. And I...

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       53 minutes is perfect.

   14. NBNeal Brennan16:35

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       It's perfect.

   16. NBNeal Brennan16:36

       Um, uh, and I move jokes up. I was like, that's a... that joke, that's... it's like when you do the live show, the first really big laugh, like in my live shows, probably at, I think it was at 11:00 and I... so in, in Netflix, I moved it up to like 7:00 or 8:00.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:54

       Mm-hmm. Just get it in there quick.

   18. NBNeal Brennan16:54

       You know what I mean? Like, like the big, big, like, "Oh, fuck," like a different energy laugh-

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:00

       Yeah.

   20. NBNeal Brennan17:00

       ... move it up.

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:01

       That's weird, though.

   22. NBNeal Brennan17:03

       But I, but I'm-

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:04

       You get it.

   24. NBNeal Brennan17:04

       It's, it's a form.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:05

       Yeah.

   26. NBNeal Brennan17:05

       I'm de- I'm meeting them where they are.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:08

       Yeah.

   28. NBNeal Brennan17:08

       Do you know what I mean?

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:09

       I know what you're saying. Yeah. But it's-

   30. NBNeal Brennan17:10

       Like, I don't feel like I'm selling myself out or like I'm...
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      let slide today that won't be a- you're not gonna be able to let, like, congressional insider trading slide.

   2. NBNeal Brennan30:06

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      It's goin- it's gonna be a real problem. You're not gonna be able to have bills where you have a border funding bill that also has funding for Ukraine.

   4. NBNeal Brennan30:13

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      Like, there- there's all that kind of stuff is gonna have to go by the wayside.

   6. NBNeal Brennan30:16

      You think AI will prevent that?

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      Yeah. Yeah.

   8. NBNeal Brennan30:18

      How come?

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:18

      Well, because people will be able to analyze everything about every bill i- instantaneously. It's not gonna be as simple as, you know, you have to sit down and read a 2,000-page bill. It's gonna be- AI is gonna break it down, and it's also gonna break down who the people are that proposed the bill and then also what the influences these people have in terms of who their donors are. And you're gonna get, like, very specific breakdowns of what all these things are, and people will be far more informed.

   10. NBNeal Brennan30:45

       I- my feeling on that is that people...... are, in some ways, are informed, and we're all kind of powerless to change it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       There's a little bit of that right now.

   12. NBNeal Brennan30:54

       Do you know what I mean?

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       Yeah.

   14. NBNeal Brennan30:55

       Like, Citizens United or, like, dark money, or AstroTurfing, or, or, or porking bills, or tying things together, or emergency. It's just all the shit of, like, how the fuck are we supposed to even d- move the needle at all as people?

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       Right.

   16. NBNeal Brennan31:14

       At all. It's, it seems impossible.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:17

       It definitely does now.

   18. NBNeal Brennan31:17

       The way the shit's set up.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:19

       Yeah.

   20. NBNeal Brennan31:20

       Um-

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:20

       It definitely does now.

   22. NBNeal Brennan31:21

       And I don't, and AI doesn't seem like... Oh, I don't think the, I don't think the problem is a lack of understanding. I think the problem is a, it's the system is set up so that it's, the only way to get a law made is like getting a building named. You gotta have 10 million bucks.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:37

       Yeah, there's a little bit of that going on too. I mean, it's, there's no way to run for president unless you have hundreds of millions of dollars backing you, which is just insane. It's insane. And money in politics-

   24. NBNeal Brennan31:47

       There's no way to run for Senate-

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:49

       Yeah.

   26. NBNeal Brennan31:49

       ... without, without a hund- you know, a hundred.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:51

       Right. You're, you're getting a job that's $150,000 a year, and you're spending hundreds of millions.

   28. NBNeal Brennan31:54

       People in the primary have a hundred.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:57

       Yeah.

   30. NBNeal Brennan31:57

       Sweetie.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. NBNeal Brennan45:00

      so... That would make me feel so sorry for myself-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      Mm-hmm.

   3. NBNeal Brennan45:03

      ... if I went for surgery and was, like, worse off.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      Yeah. That's a problem with some surgeries. And the problem with surgeons is that, uh, you know, when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

   5. NBNeal Brennan45:14

      Mm-hmm.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      And, you know, that's the only solution. I mean, uh...

   7. NBNeal Brennan45:18

      Yeah, that's most, you know.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      I've had a bunch of surgeries that I avoided, where the doctor's like, "You're gonna need surgery." And I was like, "Are you fucking sure?" Like, "Are you sure?" And then-

   9. NBNeal Brennan45:26

      Knees, shoulders, shit like that?

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       Yeah. Shoulders is the big one. Yeah. I wound up getting stem cells in my back. I had, uh, bulging discs and they were like, "You gotta get that trimmed." And I was like, "Are you sure that's the only way to do it?" It's not the only way to do it. So I had-

   11. NBNeal Brennan45:38

       What did they do?

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       ... decompression, stem cells, fixed it. I have zero problems-

   13. NBNeal Brennan45:43

       Really?

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       Yeah. Zero problems with my neck, zero problems with my shoulder. I had a full-length rotator cuff tear in my shoulder. And they were like, "You're gonna need surgery, 100%." And I went back to the doctor six months later. He's like, "This is fucking crazy." Like, that, that tear doesn't exist anymore.

   15. NBNeal Brennan45:58

       What did you do?

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       It's 'cause of the stem cells. Yeah.

   17. NBNeal Brennan46:00

       And direct into it?

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       Yeah, direct into it. Yeah.

   19. NBNeal Brennan46:03

       And all... Was it... Did you have to go far? Did... Was it just, like, local? Again, a loc-

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       I did it in, uh... Well, I did it in Vegas and I did it in LA. I did it several times. Uh, I, I think I did three injections in my shoulder. And then six months later, I got another MRI and they're like, "You don't have a tear anymore." The s- the doctor was blown away 'cause it, this was all... You know, we're talking about, ugh, I think my injury was, like, 2015, 2016, somewhere around then. So this was all fairly recent in terms of, like, the amount of res- the kind of results that they were getting. And this doctor had never seen anything like it. He was blown away. He'd been an orthopedic surgeon for 20 years.

   21. NBNeal Brennan46:37

       Did you have to do anything?

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:39

       No.

   23. NBNeal Brennan46:39

       Did you have to rehab it? Or they just-

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:41

       Yeah. I did re-... I did regular rehab. Like, once I got the surgery, I did, like, I do a lot of bands.

   25. NBNeal Brennan46:45

       But you're trying to bring back... What are you bringing? You're br-

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:47

       You're regenerating tissue. You're regenerating tissue.

   27. NBNeal Brennan46:49

       Can rehab do- help you with that?

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:51

       Yeah.

   29. NBNeal Brennan46:51

       Or is that just stem cell?

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:52

       Yeah. It just, it strengthens it. I think the, the rehab with the stem... The, the key is, it's, like, not injuring it while you're healing. And the problem is, it starts feeling better and then you start pushing, then you re-aggravate the injury, and then you're in this repetitive cycle. But if you can avoid that, like, um... My friend, Shane Dorian, he's a big wave surfer, and he got, uh, serious stem cells down in, uh, Tijuana where they could do wild shit. And, uh, he got his entire back done. So they put him under and they do every disc in his back. And they're like, "You can't do anything." Like, "You can only walk for, like, a couple of months." Like, that's all you could do. And for a guy like him who's a world champion surfer and he's an athlete and he's always exercising, he's always doing something, it was crazy to just not... All you could do is walk. But now he feels fucking incredible. And it's just months later.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:12:22

   You motherfucker. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      No, I'm just kidding.

   2. NBNeal Brennan1:00:00

      You motherfucker.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      You look all right. You look thin and healthy.

   4. NBNeal Brennan1:00:03

      Thank you so much.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      But you can do it if you supplement carefully and you're a smart guy. You know what to eat and what not to eat, and you know to-

   6. NBNeal Brennan1:00:08

      And I can get my blood tested and go to a guy, and he tells me-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      Yeah. You get vitamin D.

   8. NBNeal Brennan1:00:11

      Yeah, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:11

      If you have money-

   10. NBNeal Brennan1:00:12

       Yeah. Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

       ... you can do all the things that you do to make sure that you're okay. And it absolutely can be done. I know people that eat a vegan diet. And I also think there's biodiversity. There's some people, their ancestry is very different. Their- their genetics are very different, and they're- they're much more... Uh, vegan diet is more tolerable for them. Like, Indian people, Indian people have been eating vegetarian food for so fucking long.

   12. NBNeal Brennan1:00:34

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       You know, I would imagine-

   14. NBNeal Brennan1:00:36

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       ... that their body, their genes have adapted if they've come from a long line of vegetarians.

   16. NBNeal Brennan1:00:43

       Yeah, like, they're kind of stuck with vegetable. And they're... You know what I mean? (laughs) They're kinda stuck with-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       I mean, maybe it would be beneficial-

   18. NBNeal Brennan1:00:49

       ... would not stuck with... Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       ... for them to- to supplement with protein.

   20. NBNeal Brennan1:00:50

       Or they figured it out. They have it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

       Yeah.

   22. NBNeal Brennan1:00:52

       Their body has figured... If their-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       Yeah.

   24. NBNeal Brennan1:00:54

       Whatever it was deficient in, it's figured out a way around it by what's- what was available to them.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       Right. But when we look at countries that consume more meat, they- they're healthier and they live longer. Hong Kong is a great example of that. So, there's some great studies that have done- been done on Hong Kong. They have, like, o- one of the highest meat consumptions and higher life expectancies and-... but it's-

   26. NBNeal Brennan1:01:13

       Yeah, and then there's also, like, Blue Zone-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:15

       Then again, it's like how long have they been doing it?

   28. NBNeal Brennan1:01:16

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:17

       Yeah, and-

   30. NBNeal Brennan1:01:17

       And the Blue Zone or the, like, a little bit of prot- yeah. It's, it's ... I guess what you're saying is the acknowledgment that, like, shit's complicated and there's no one right or wrong answer.

Episode duration: 2:30:10