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Phish at the Vegas Sphere: sensory overload and the new live-show arms race
- NANarrator
(drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music) So, Jamie, I'm sending you these things right now. You wanna feel like a lazy piece of shit?
- ASAkaash Singh
Uh, yeah.
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- ASAkaash Singh
(laughs) Yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is what me and Ari were saying to each other last night. This is all the Phish concert at The Sphere.
- NANarrator
Oh.
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh, Phish is a fascinating thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, the gra- you know The Sphere in Vegas?
- ASAkaash Singh
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
That giant globe.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
The whole ceiling is all LCD or-
- ASAkaash Singh
Completely-
- JRJoe Rogan
... LED. What kind of screen is it?
- NANarrator
I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Some-
- ASAkaash Singh
L- LED?
- JRJoe Rogan
LED, I would think.
- ASAkaash Singh
Whatever the best shit is. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like a billion-dollar building.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But the screens on the ceiling, so Phish utilizes these for all these, like, crazy, trippy-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... psychedelic images, and so while the show is going on people are just like, "Wow."
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like the greatest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. Look at this.
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh, that's-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the ceiling.
- 2:38 – 4:21
UFC at The Sphere and Dana White’s obsession-level execution
- JRJoe Rogan
So they're doing a UFC there in September and I have no-
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at the dog. (laughs)
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh, that's so sick, dude. That's so sick.
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't that amazing?
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um-
- ASAkaash Singh
What's gonna be on the screen at UFC 300, just Max Holloway-
- JRJoe Rogan
Fights.
- ASAkaash Singh
... knocking you out with two seconds left in the fight?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) One second.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, one second.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's, it's gonna be all kinds of shit. I mean, th- they're, they're essentially planning for that different than they've ever planned for any other event.
- ASAkaash Singh
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dana told me they've already spent $9 million preparing for September's event.
- ASAkaash Singh
That's so sick.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAkaash Singh
So tickets are gonna be nuts for that, I assume.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's gonna be nuts, yeah.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's gonna be a nutty event, and I don't think they're gonna do more than one of them. I think they're only gonna do one 'cause the idea is, is like it's so expensive to do and there's so much involved in preparing for it.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, but it's an investment so you're gonna get it back.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAkaash Singh
Has anybody written a book on Dana building the UFC? You would know, I would not. I'm very much casual, but just I remember being like 13, seeing the UFC commercials.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAkaash Singh
And it didn't, it seemed like this fringe thing and now it's this massive mainstream thing. And not, I don't wanna give all the credit to one person, but it seems like he's the one-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a lot of it, a lot of it goes to him.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
If it wasn't for him-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- 4:21 – 10:35
Letting go of resentment: jealousy, ego, and not reading the comments
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't have that.
- ASAkaash Singh
I don't either, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I keep moving. I don't li- I don't like that s- kind of stress in my life. I don't like dwelling on things. I don't like creating additional conflict. Maybe I did when I was younger, but that shit doesn't seem appealing to me at all.
- ASAkaash Singh
How do you let go... If you had it when you were younger, how did you let go of it?
- JRJoe Rogan
I just realized it wasn't helping me.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The same way I let go being jealous of people. I would be jealous of other comedians, like if they were killing it-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I'd be, I would be like, "Oh, I hope he bombs."
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And I, and then I, I, uh, this was when I was 21 I felt this.
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh, that's very young for that.
- JRJoe Rogan
And I saw it and I was like, "God, what a, how, what a weak thought."
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I was embarrassed.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah. I remember being 27 and just being so angry, and I haven't let go of all of it by any stretch, but being like, "I don't like me being like this."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAkaash Singh
And then I realized all my hate of other people is rooted in me worrying I'm not gonna make it or worrying I'm not funny enough.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAkaash Singh
And then you get kind of like, "Well, that's embarrassing, so let's try to move away from that."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it, it, uh, especially with comedy and something that you could actually improve on-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... it's really stupid.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or even martial arts, something you can improve on. I get it with girls.
- ASAkaash Singh
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause they get it with looks.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like looks-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah. Oh, they're saying it-
- 10:35 – 16:01
Masks, COVID policy whiplash, and the politics of public health theater
- ASAkaash Singh
Hey, I have some loser behavior to apologize for before we get-
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah. Yesterday, I'm walking through Austin and I'm like, "This city's great. Why did I get on Rogan the first time and shit all over Austin? What a fantastic city."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAkaash Singh
I'm a loser. 68 degrees on a Sunday, I'm walking around, there's trees, there's beautiful people, there's good food. And I realize the only reason I hated it is because I would leave Texas when I moved to New York or LA and every hacky liberal would be like, "Oh, I hate Texas, but I like Austin." And then I got insecure and some loser shit. And I was like, "You know what? Fuck Austin, dude."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAkaash Singh
"Fucking vegans, they suck. This city's great."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, if you go to certain parts of Austin, you will get annoyed. I was in East Austin a couple months ago, and I saw some fucking guy driving his Tesla with a mask on.
- ASAkaash Singh
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I literally wanted to yank him out of his car and break his neck.
- ASAkaash Singh
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You fucking... You, you're a problem voting.
- ASAkaash Singh
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I guarantee you, you're a problem.
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh, my God.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) You're the reason why there's no cash bail.
- ASAkaash Singh
Dude, I saw a guy in 2022 in an elevator, and he got mad at me for not having a mask on. I was like, "Buddy, it's over. It's over."
- JRJoe Rogan
He got mad at you in 2022?
- ASAkaash Singh
"Stop it." He was like, "You're not wearing a mask?" And then because New York had the whole mask thing for longer, and so I guess... But to me, once it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Was it still going on in 2022 when you got in the elevator?
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh, I don't... I guess. Well, my wife, NYU, she got a master's at NYU, and they made them take boosters, which I took the vax. I'm fine with that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- ASAkaash Singh
But boosters, I was like, "I'm not doing it." If it's a cold, I'm not vaccinating against a cold. I'm not doing it. And then they made them wear masks until, I think, middle of 2023, they had to wear masks.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus Christ.
- ASAkaash Singh
Which is insane.
- JRJoe Rogan
It just, no science.
- ASAkaash Singh
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Zero science.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
If you, you look at the science behind masking-There's actually legitimate science that breathing those dirty fucking masks with that bacteria inches from your mouth is bad.
- 16:01 – 18:40
AI creativity: animation, voice cloning, and the Drake–Kendrick AI diss era
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I am obsessed with AI animation. I'm obsessed with it. I follow, like, 15 different people online now on Instagram. I just, it'll come across my feed and I'll just find these, these insane videos that they're creating, like, instantly with AI.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they're beautiful.
- ASAkaash Singh
It's insane.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're amazing.
- ASAkaash Singh
We made songs with AI on the Patreon, one of the Patreon episodes, and they're so good. So, 20 seconds.
- JRJoe Rogan
So good. 20 seconds.
- ASAkaash Singh
It's unbelievable.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's crazy.
- ASAkaash Singh
Have you seen the, the rap beefs that are happening where they think the songs are AI, because they're so, like... One guy said, "I know this song isn't AI because how can AI take a breath in a song?" And I was like-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, they can.
- ASAkaash Singh
... "Because it's AI. It's just gonna get better and better."
- JRJoe Rogan
No, they um. They take breaths.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They do all kinds of stuff now. They mimic all the patterns of speech that they can record from all these different people. So, they have act, like i- if you have a database, like say if you and I are... We've been on a c- a bunch of podcasts now.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So they could take us and have us say anything.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it would be, like, weird pauses and (clears throat) clearing of the throat.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yes. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It would be indistinguishable.
- ASAkaash Singh
What is your-
- JRJoe Rogan
What is this? Drake takes aim at Kendrick Lamar with AI Tupac and Snoop Dogg vocals on Taylor Made Freestyle diss track.
- ASAkaash Singh
So, Drake and Kendrick Lamar are beefing. Pe- Drake wrote a beef, and he did AI Snoop and AI Tupac talking about how disappointed they are in Kendrick Lamar. He wrote the raps, and then the voices sound perfect.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my god.
- ASAkaash Singh
It's unbelievable what's happening.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is wrong with Kendrick Lamar?
- ASAkaash Singh
They're just beefing. Just rap just... It's competitive. They beef sometimes. I think Kendrick started this one, and then it's just like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- ASAkaash Singh
... who wants to be the best? And hip hop is rooted in this kind of, like, battle rap and like-
- 18:40 – 28:19
Money, lifestyle inflation, and why expensive stuff isn’t worth the stress
- JRJoe Rogan
The thing about expensive stuff is if you can't afford it, the stress of that not being, or barely being able to afford it and working for it is not nearly worth what you get out of the thing.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The only time nice things are worth it is when they're kind of free, meaning, not that they're free, but that you don't feel it.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like if you went out and bought a new Mustang, you wouldn't even feel it-
- ASAkaash Singh
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... if you're rich.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like it's like, "Ooh, I can enjoy this, this is fun."
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like it doesn't affect your life. But if you make $60,000 a year and you go out and buy a new Mustang-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and then you're looking at those car payments and you're looking at your rent payment and then-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you're looking at your bills, you're like, "Fuck."
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're like, "Maybe I should take on, uh, like a little Uber thing on the side."
- ASAkaash Singh
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? And that's what pe-
- ASAkaash Singh
That's my Mustang.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
People wind up doing that-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... to pay for a car.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which is a great thing to do if you want to do it that way, but the, the additional stress, like houses. Like I always tell people this, this is a, an important lesson that I learned when I was 27. When I was 27 was the first time I ever had a nice apartment.
- ASAkaash Singh
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
I moved to Hollywood. I was on a television show, and I got this place in North Hollywood, and it had a loft.
- ASAkaash Singh
(laughs) Yeah.
- 28:19 – 33:08
Tipping culture, service entitlement, and regional manners (Texas vs East Coast)
- JRJoe Rogan
The tip thing is crazy. But th- people try to weasel tips out of you everywhere.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's weird how, like, some things get tips, like a Starbucks barista-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... but other things, you never think about tipping.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, that are, like, harder jobs.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know?
- ASAkaash Singh
I, so I... This might be classist of me or whatever. When I see the, like, grocery delivery guy, I often see someone that I feel like could use the money more than the fucking barista at Starbucks, so I try to over-tip them. I'll do the $1 standard at a coffee shop 'cause my friends shame me, but, uh, now I'm like, I, I'm kind of classist in how I tip. I'm like, "Who needs it more?" (laughs) And then I'll over-tip that guy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, well, I like to tip people. It's fun.
- ASAkaash Singh
I've heard.
- JRJoe Rogan
It feels nice.
- ASAkaash Singh
I've heard your tips are pretty crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
It feels good. It's like-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I call it, like, a little love bomb.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You leave a love bomb for someone. Like-
- ASAkaash Singh
I'm f-
- JRJoe Rogan
... changes their day, changes their week.
- ASAkaash Singh
I'm fighting against my Indian heritage.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAkaash Singh
Any time I leave a big tip.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well-
- ASAkaash Singh
I'll do it, but it's tough. It's took a lot of work.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm Italian, and there's, you know-
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... Sinatra-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah. (laughs)
- 33:08 – 41:07
Random assaults, street violence, and Joe’s cautionary fighting story
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, I've been watching a lot of videos on Instagram, unfortunately, of women getting punched in the face in New York. I've s- I've seen, like, four or five of them over the last few days. People just punching women for no reason.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah. Yeah, that's, like, a thing. That's, like, a thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is that?
- ASAkaash Singh
I don't know. I thought it was only white women at first, so it was just funny to me. But then, uh, I found out they're doing it to everybody, and now I'm scared for my wife.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I saw some Asian lady get punched in the face today.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What the fuck? For no reason. Just walking down the street, and this dude just way... She had a mask on too, by the way.
- ASAkaash Singh
Maybe that's why.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe that's why.
- ASAkaash Singh
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
This dude just way laid her and knocked her mask off-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... sent her flying-
- ASAkaash Singh
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... out of nowhere. Like, you don't think you're gonna get hit. First of all, people die that way all the time.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah. I've heard.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because if you don't know you're gonna get hit and you get hit, you go unconscious, and you bang your head off the concrete.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's, it's like getting the world dropped on you.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, no, I... That's one thing that fighters are keenly aware of that most of us don't, I don't think, think about a lot.
- JRJoe Rogan
You got to really think about that on concrete.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, if you're gonna punch somebody on concrete, errr. You might go to jail.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You might go to jail for a long t- And you might have horrible nightmares-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that you could have avoided that, and you didn't have to do that.
- ASAkaash Singh
I have a f-
- JRJoe Rogan
Especially if you're, you're skilled-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- 41:07 – 41:54
Comedy scene check-in: Mothership, Mitzi’s, and Rogan’s carnivore bootcamp
- ASAkaash Singh
I'm a grappler. Well, you got Ehsan looking good. I, I went... By the way, Mothership is beautiful. Ehsan took me yesterday.
- JRJoe Rogan
Thank you.
- ASAkaash Singh
Gorgeous. Mitzi's al- also... I, as a non-drinker, I didn't have any interest in Mitzi's and then I went there and I was like, "Oh, this is a vibe."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAkaash Singh
This is like a speakeasy... And then I heard it's shut down for anybody but comics after a certain hour.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAkaash Singh
That's awesome.
- JRJoe Rogan
After 11:00 PM, it's comics and their friends.
- ASAkaash Singh
That's awesome.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAkaash Singh
But, yeah, Ehsan looks good, dude. And he said he was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- ASAkaash Singh
... training with you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I got those guys on a, a workout boot camp. Shane Gillis, Ehsan, Derek Poston, uh, Brian Simpson, uh-
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... Duncan Trussell.
- ASAkaash Singh
Is Poston still doing only meat? He's doing carnivore?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- ASAkaash Singh
He told me he was doing that.
- JRJoe Rogan
So is Ehsan.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I got them-
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh, really?
- JRJoe Rogan
... on that for January. It was World Carnivore Month and I said, "I just want you guys to try this-"
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"... for one month."
- ASAkaash Singh
He said it was so hard.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can eat eggs, you can eat... Uh, it is hard.
- 41:54 – 47:23
Carnivore vs carbs: energy swings, satiety, and the ultra-processed food problem
- JRJoe Rogan
But once you get accustomed to it, like that's how I eat, man. I mean, I'll still eat whatever I want every now and then.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But the m- vast majority of my diet is all-
- ASAkaash Singh
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... just meat and eggs.
- ASAkaash Singh
No veggies?
- JRJoe Rogan
... very little. If I want to, like the other night, I had a salad. I felt like having a salad.
- ASAkaash Singh
And blood work is all good? No-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's great.
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's great. Everything's great.
- ASAkaash Singh
Look at that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. No, it's amazing. It's like your body wants to eat real food.
- ASAkaash Singh
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And if you're eating bread and all that bullshit-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... it's not real food.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just ... Your body's like, "Bleh." I'm never tired.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, so through the ... I used to get the ... Look, I 100% am addicted to pasta. Like if you give me a-
- ASAkaash Singh
That's fantastic.
- JRJoe Rogan
... big bowl of-
- ASAkaash Singh
So fun.
- JRJoe Rogan
... like linguine with clams-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I will fuck that up.
- ASAkaash Singh
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I will fuck some lasagna up. You put a pizza in front of me, I can't stop eating.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- 47:23 – 53:02
From chickens to hoarders: internet extremes and the spectrum of human behavior
- JRJoe Rogan
Tha- it doesn't ... It's not protecting shit. You're encouraging monocrop agriculture. You're encouraging the death of untold numbers of creatures when they fucking ... When they, when they cr- wh- when they cultivate those crops, when they li- they cut them down and run those fucking combines through them, everything dies, dude. If you think one life is one life, so if you think like a bison is as important as a mouse, well, you're a hypocrite. Because those, uh, ground squirrels, shrews-
- ASAkaash Singh
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Uh, d- ground nesting birds, fawns, rabbits. Things get fucking destroyed. If you talk to farmers, one of the things you see after they run a combine through the field is vultures.... vultures and crows-
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh, wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
... just flying over the field- Yeah. ... 'cause they know everything got fucked up. Yeah. So, if one life is one life- Yeah. And this is not to say that there's not, there's not a horrific loss of life every day with, like, chickens. Yeah. The number of chickens that get killed in this country every year- Yeah. ... is in the billions. Yeah. It's in the billions. Yeah. Yeah. How many chickens do we kill every year? Let's find out. I was watching this thing on all the different animals that get killed, like, what's the, the highest number of animals that get killed? A chicken?
- ASAkaash Singh
Is it chicken? It's gotta be chicken.
- JRJoe Rogan
Chickens is high up there. I don't know if it's number one, but there's, uh, there's a lot, a lot of different things get fucking killed-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and eaten by people.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But monocrop agriculture is terrible for the environment. It's not good. It's bad because you, you des- like topsoil. You're not supposed to have one... 17-
- NANarrator
No, no, no. That's animals total over there, just chickens.
- ASAkaash Singh
Billion? I think that's billions.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's that?
- NANarrator
That was animals total, up top.
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh, eight billion chickens.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- NANarrator
Chickens down here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Eight billion chickens. Every year?
- NANarrator
US.
- JRJoe Rogan
US.
- ASAkaash Singh
214 million turkeys. That's surprising.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's ridiculous. Turkeys, they, they're like... They only exist because of Thanksgiving.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah. Wildly overrated meat.
- JRJoe Rogan
Very overrated meat.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, I'm amazed that there's f- eight times more-
- JRJoe Rogan
Shellfish. Look at the shellfish. Oh my God.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
43 billion.
- ASAkaash Singh
No, that's fire. I love shellfish. That one, they, they got it.
- 53:02 – 57:55
Immigrant parents, identity, and the weight of generational trauma
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, I had so much... I had to think about... My dad struggled with alcohol abuse, struggled with a lot of stuff. And I had to understand what his life was supposed to be in India and then what it was gonna be here. In India, he was, like, set. He'd passed this exam that, like, five million people apply for, and they select, like, 200. Like, he was gonna be a millionaire, bare minimum. 24 years old. Then he's at another family member's wedding, and his little cousins are like, "Hey, you're getting married today too." He had no idea. Arranged marriage. Getting fitted for clothes on his way to the wedding.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus Christ.
- ASAkaash Singh
And then they're like, "You're also moving to America." That's... 'Cause in, in the '70s in India, they're just thinking, "Oh, if he's successful in India, he'll be even more successful in America." The language barrier, you never think about. And I, I thought about... Somebody, one of my cousins, it struck me 'cause he goes, "Your dad is so funny." And I was like, "What the... What are you talking about? He's the least funny." He goes, "Your dad's not funny in, in English. He's so funny in Hindi." And I was like, "Oh, this guy doesn't..." This language, he's not that good at. And he couldn't navigate the world the way he could in India. He was supposed-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- ASAkaash Singh
... to be a superstar. Then he comes here, and he's in Texas as a brown guy in the '70s, probably less than to all these people. And he's used to being a star, and he can't-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- ASAkaash Singh
... be funny, and he can't be himself. And that just sucks the life out of you slowly day by day.
- JRJoe Rogan
What did he do in India?
- ASAkaash Singh
He was... It's called a PCS officer. So, there's a movie called 12th Fail, a Bollywood movie. I love Bollywood. Uh, but it's about a different post, but equally competitive. That one is like IS, and then PCS is like a government officer.... kinda like state police, I guess. But, like, you are, at the very least, well-respected, and if you wanna be rich and take some bribes, you can do that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAkaash Singh
And my dad would've done all of that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAkaash Singh
He would've taken all the bribes. All the bribes. And in India, he just kinda knew that's how... He knew the culture, he knew how to navigate, he knew how, how to grease the wheels and all of that, how to talk to people to get what you want. Here, he's not charming 'cause he doesn't know English well enough.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- ASAkaash Singh
There, he can get anything he wants. Here, he's just struggling trying to figure it all out.
- JRJoe Rogan
God damn.
- ASAkaash Singh
And so I, I've become keenly aware of, like, I don't know if we, as immigrant kids, appreciate everything our parents had to go through to get here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAkaash Singh
For us. I'm not here without that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, if my grandparents, their... It was actually my grandparents' parents that moved here, but if, if they weren't the type of people that were so gangster they were willing to get on that boat-
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I would, I would be in Europe somewhere.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yes, yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'd be in Europe, hanging out in a café, smoking cigarettes, talking shit.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah. I would be a fat, spoiled piece of shit, and it would've been fun. I'd have been a rich kid. But growing up in India, I wouldn't have been this, what I am here. I know that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. You want your own ability to s- to carve a path. And there's a lot of countries where that's not an option.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can't really carve a path to do whatever you wanna do.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's not available to everybody everywhere.
- 57:55 – 1:27:44
China, demographics, and state power: infiltration, data trust, and geopolitical anxiety
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't it interesting how, like, some places just... Well, I guess it's the older ones, right? Like, think about high population places. It's China-
- ASAkaash Singh
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... which is, like, our oldest civilization.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
China has thrived economically for 4,000 years.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
4,000 years.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So of course they have a billion people.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, true.
- JRJoe Rogan
They... I mean, obviously there's d- serious poverty and all sorts of problems in China, but the point is, they've been a unit for 4,000 years.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So people have been fucking.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
They've been fucking for 4,000 years, so much that they had to say you could only have one kid.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then they ruined everything.
- ASAkaash Singh
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That stupid idea. They, then they ruined everything so there, there's so many more men than there are women.
- ASAkaash Singh
Oh, that's right, 'cause they-
- JRJoe Rogan
So now they have, like, a real problem.
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then they, they realized that they were gonna have a real problem, so they started changing it and so you could have more kids. I think you can have three now, right? Is that what China's policy is now?
- ASAkaash Singh
Are you not worried about China as a threat to America for global dominance, I guess, is, uh... I can't think of a better way to say it, but are you worried about China-
- JRJoe Rogan
I think they already won. (laughs)
- ASAkaash Singh
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're, they've been, uh, infiltrated all of our universities. They, they give grant money. They, they pay for things. They buy up farmland.
- ASAkaash Singh
So smart.
- JRJoe Rogan
They've been buying up farmland around military bases. They sell America cheap cellphone towers and internet routers. They sell them cellphone towers at a discounted rate so that they can have their cellphone towers around military bases so they can listen to everything that everybody fucking says.
- ASAkaash Singh
I mean, yeah.
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