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Joe Rogan Experience #2145 - Colin Quinn

Colin Quinn is a stand-up comic, on-air personality, actor, and author of several books, among them "Overstated: A Coast to Coast Roast of the 50 States."

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May 3, 20242h 29mWatch on YouTube

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Partial transcript

0:00 – 0:06

Cold open and show kickoff

Joe Rogan 0:00 (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

0:06 – 2:14

Comedy club discipline: hecklers, crowd work clips, and audience behavior

Colin Quinn 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hello, Hello, Joe. Joe, that was fun last night. Let me just start by saying what a fun time at the club. Um, the green room and everything else. And here's what I was, I was talking to the head of security at the club, here's what I love about the club. I worked the club. I had a great weekend b- about a couple of months ago, is they keep the audience in line. Nobody's heckling without getting booted. Is that not the most important thing in comedy that nobody talks about?

Joe Rogan 0:41 It's very important.

Colin Quinn 0:43 It's unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 0:44 And unfortunately, there's so many crowd work, uh, clips that get put out on Instagram-

Colin Quinn 0:50 Right.

Joe Rogan 0:50 ... and like people are now thinking that they wanna be a part of the show.

Colin Quinn 0:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:55 And so I see people much more often chiming in and yelling things out, and they think they're gonna be a part of things.

Colin Quinn 1:02 Yeah. And even when you go, when you try to be nice on the first line, you go, "That was okay, sir." Then they try again, you're like, "Listen, you pi- oh my god."

Joe Rogan 1:10 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 1:10 But that's what I love about your club. Everybody there just has the energy like, "We're gonna tell you right now. Another word, you're out." That's how it should be.

Joe Rogan 1:18 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 1:18 'Cause as you know, there's no, nobody heckles once.

Joe Rogan 1:22 Right.

Colin Quinn 1:23 Nobody's ever heckled once.

Joe Rogan 1:24 Nobody heckles sober either.

Colin Quinn 1:26 And nobody heckles sober.

Joe Rogan 1:27 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 1:27 And they just like to start trouble. And the green room was fun, and even though I didn't go on, it was a, I also didn't go on because you have to understand the language where I was like, you're like, "You wanna go on?" I go, "Um, I don't really wanna go on." They go, "Oh, that's cool." But really then you're supposed to say, "The crowd really wants you to go on." And I'm like, "Joe, I don't wanna bump anybody." "No, you wouldn't be bumping anybody. We'll just cut Tony's time down." "Joe, I don't wanna be that guy." You're like, "Don't be ridiculous."

Joe Rogan 1:52 Oh, I have to dance with you.

Colin Quinn 1:53 Go on. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:54 I didn't know you wanted to dance.

Colin Quinn 1:55 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:56 If you, you wanna dance tonight?

Colin Quinn 1:57 No, I gotta leave, um, go to Seattle tonight.

Joe Rogan 1:59 What the fuck?

Colin Quinn 2:00 I gotta go. (laughs) I would love to, yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:02 Are you, are you performing tonight in Seattle?

Colin Quinn 2:04 No, no.

Joe Rogan 2:05 Well, maybe I can change my flight, i-... Well, let's see-

Colin Quinn 2:07 Move it around.

Joe Rogan 2:07 ... maybe I can change it. Move it around. There's plenty-

Colin Quinn 2:10 Maybe I can.

Joe Rogan 2:10 ... of flights out of Austin. It's a-

Colin Quinn 2:11 Yeah, I know.

Joe Rogan 2:11 ... wonderful hub.

Colin Quinn 2:12 It is. It's great.

Joe Rogan 2:14 Yeah.

2:14 – 3:59

Austin as a comedy hub: newcomers, flights, and Joe DeRosa’s food influence

Colin Quinn 2:14 It keeps booming every time I was here. Last time I was here was COVID.

Joe Rogan 2:16 Yeah, I don't think it's gonna get too much bigger. I think-

Colin Quinn 2:18 And, uh-

Joe Rogan 2:18 ... we've reached peak.

Colin Quinn 2:19 You think so?

Joe Rogan 2:20 Yeah. Yeah, I think that's about it.

Colin Quinn 2:21 Do you think Shane Gillis was the last citizen they allowed in?

Joe Rogan 2:23 No, there's a few more coming. Joe DeRosa just got a place here.

Colin Quinn 2:27 He did?

Joe Rogan 2:27 Yeah, and Joey Diaz is getting a place here.

Colin Quinn 2:29 I can't believe the two Joe Dees are gonna be here. Um-

Joe Rogan 2:32 Let's go.

Colin Quinn 2:33 That's great.

Joe Rogan 2:34 Joe Diaz and Joe DeRosa is a fierce combination.

Colin Quinn 2:37 I know, but I spoke to Joe DeRosa yesterday, and I deliberately didn't go to the chicken place because of Joe DeRosa.

Joe Rogan 2:41 Really? Why?

Colin Quinn 2:42 Because when he recommended it, it just bugged me, his, his confidence when he goes, "You gotta try this chicken place." And I was like, "Uh."

Joe Rogan 2:50 It's Gus' Fried Chicken-

Colin Quinn 2:51 I know.

Joe Rogan 2:52 ... and it's phenomenal.

Colin Quinn 2:53 I just don't like that Joe's positioned himself as the new-

Joe Rogan 2:56 I understand.

Colin Quinn 2:56 ... uh, gastronomic expert in comedy.

Joe Rogan 2:58 Right, because he owns a sub shop.

Colin Quinn 3:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:00 By the way, it's a good sub shop though.

Colin Quinn 3:02 I heard it's amazing.

Joe Rogan 3:02 It's fucking great.

Colin Quinn 3:03 I'm embarrassed I've never been there.

Joe Rogan 3:04 It's fucking great. He brought some over when they were doing Moontower. He was in town, he brought some-

Colin Quinn 3:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:08 ... some subs over. They were fucking tremendous. He's, he's got a great place.

Colin Quinn 3:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:14 I always look at the Instagram photos, I'm like, "Oh my god, they look so good."

Colin Quinn 3:17 They said the bread's amazing.

Joe Rogan 3:18 Everything's amazing. The food's ama-... And he makes a great sub.

Colin Quinn 3:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:21 I mean, he, he's obviously, it's a labor of love.

Colin Quinn 3:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:24 You know, he's a professional comic, it's a side thing.

Colin Quinn 3:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:27 He's like, "I like sandwiches, let's make a sandwich shop." And he knocked it out of the park. Everybody who goes there, big subs-

Colin Quinn 3:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:33 ... not expensive.

Colin Quinn 3:35 The name Joey Rosa's is good.

Joe Rogan 3:36 Yes, it's great. It's great.

Colin Quinn 3:38 It's anger producing in some ways, but in other words it's great.

Joe Rogan 3:40 In a lot of ways for you. You have a thing with him, I think.

Colin Quinn 3:42 With Joe?

Joe Rogan 3:43 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 3:44 I try to have a thing with everybody. That's my thing, Joe.

Joe Rogan 3:46 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 3:47 I'd like to have a thing with y- if you had studied just ma-... If you had just studied straight karate and wanted to MMA, maybe I could have a thing with you. But let's face it, you don't play games.

Joe Rogan 3:55 I do play games, though.

Colin Quinn 3:56 And not to be taken lightly. Um, no, I don't.

Joe Rogan 3:58 (laughs)

3:59 – 6:48

Green-room culture, ball-busting, and tipping as a social signal

Colin Quinn 3:59 But, uh, (laughs) what about, uh, yeah. The, um, yeah, before I came down here, I was j-... 'Cause in New York, it's so funny, we were in the green room last night, all I wanna do is bust balls with everybody.

Joe Rogan 4:13 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 4:13 Like, that's the, that's what I live for.

Joe Rogan 4:15 It's fun.

Colin Quinn 4:16 You know? And, uh, when you see Shane Gillis in there, Shane Gillis is just that guy, he's so big, I just want you to f-... I want you to ma-... I want you to lock him in a, in a basement and just feed him, like, red meat-

Joe Rogan 4:29 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 4:29 ... and make him train MMA for, like, two years and just eat mesculin and red meat.

Joe Rogan 4:33 Nice.

Colin Quinn 4:33 And just become a stone cold killer.

Joe Rogan 4:35 Wow.

Colin Quinn 4:36 That's my dream.

Joe Rogan 4:37 I got him working out.

Colin Quinn 4:38 Apprecia-... Yeah, I know.

Joe Rogan 4:39 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 4:39 He looked sore yesterday. He said he really worked out.

Joe Rogan 4:41 He was sore. We did two, two hard days this week.

Colin Quinn 4:43 Look how big he is.

Joe Rogan 4:44 He's a big fuck.

Colin Quinn 4:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:45 Big old football player kid.

Colin Quinn 4:46 If I was as big as him, I wouldn't be a comic.

Joe Rogan 4:48 No?

Colin Quinn 4:49 I'd be a b-... I'd be an animal.

Joe Rogan 4:50 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 4:51 I'd be working security at the club telling people, "Shut up."

Joe Rogan 4:54 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 4:54 "Tony's trying to do something up there."

Joe Rogan 4:58 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 4:59 Comedy's like, it's got an anger to it, don't you think?

Joe Rogan 5:02 A little bit. Yeah.

Colin Quinn 5:03 Yeah, it's got to.

Joe Rogan 5:03 Well, there's just so much resistance. It's so difficult to get through.

Colin Quinn 5:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:07 There's a lot of fucking running up that river.

Colin Quinn 5:10 Yeah. Uh.

Joe Rogan 5:13 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 5:14 What about, uh, yeah. Even the way, even the way we talk to each other, like, uh, I'm at the Cellar the other night, so here's what happened. So I'm just sitting there, Keith is there, Norton's there. So I just give the waitress... First of all, I, I'm an-... I'm like the Sinatra of tipping. I didn't wanna bring this up, but now I'm bringing it up because it's a part of the story. So I tip them, but I always put it there 'cause I'm trying not to flash how much I tip.

Joe Rogan 5:36 Right.

Colin Quinn 5:36 So I'm trying to do it like that. So Norton goes, "Ugh, you're tipping. You're not part of the Rat Pack."

Joe Rogan 5:43 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 5:43 And he just started trashing me for 10 minutes. Meanwhile, what I shoulda said was, "I'm only doing that so you cheap bastards don't look bad." You know?

Joe Rogan 5:53 I understand.

Colin Quinn 5:54 Yeah. This is a daily thing.

Joe Rogan 5:55 I enjoy tipping myself.

Colin Quinn 5:56 Yeah, I th-... I could see you're a high roller too.

Joe Rogan 5:58 It's like a little love bomb. Give a little love bomb to people.

Colin Quinn 6:00 Yes, an extra few dollars and it makes their whole day.

Joe Rogan 6:03 Yeah, you don't even feel it.... makes people happy.

Colin Quinn 6:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:05 I always try to tell my cheap friends. I'm like, "You got to get over that."

Colin Quinn 6:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:09 "Fuck that 15%. What are you doing?"

Colin Quinn 6:11 I agree.

Joe Rogan 6:11 Give them a big tip.

Colin Quinn 6:11 There's a lot of chiselers.

Joe Rogan 6:12 Yeah, don't be a chiseler.

Colin Quinn 6:13 And they, and they think of excuses.

Joe Rogan 6:15 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 6:15 Like, "Oh, you see that attitude you gave me?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:18 (laughs) There's no attitude. Yeah, I give people big tips and they, they give me shitty service.

Colin Quinn 6:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:24 I don't care. I just want everybody to be happy.

Colin Quinn 6:26 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:27 So you can give them a little happiness, and maybe they'll be nicer to the next people and you s- the butterfly effect.

Colin Quinn 6:33 Well, it's certainly not working for the planet right now. Let's face it.

Joe Rogan 6:36 Eh, we're all right. I think the problem is we're inundated with bad news constantly.

Colin Quinn 6:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:43 That's the real problem. And then, you know, there's also, like, the problems in cities.

6:48 – 11:15

Colin’s new special filmed for psychiatrists + social media’s psychological fallout

Colin Quinn 6:48 Yeah. Well, everywhere. I mean, um, you know, I just did a special, by the way, about, uh, um, it's releasing tomorrow. It's about, uh, I did it in front of a psychiatrists' convention.

Joe Rogan 6:59 Did you really?

Colin Quinn 7:00 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:01 Wow.

Colin Quinn 7:02 I just did it. And, um, so I f- I found, I sought out a psychiatrists' convention and went there and said, "Hey, would you guys let me go on and just do my s- shoot my special in front of you?"

Joe Rogan 7:11 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 7:11 And they said sure. So I did a whole thing. And then they analyzed me afterwards and it was funny.

Joe Rogan 7:16 What k- What room was it at?

Colin Quinn 7:18 It was a ballroom, like one of those conven- you know, it was like a Washington DC, some hotel off the beaten path where they were just having a convention.

Joe Rogan 7:26 And they did not plan on you being there?

Colin Quinn 7:28 No.

Joe Rogan 7:29 And so you knew they were gonna be there at that time.

Colin Quinn 7:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:32 And you coordinated with them.

Colin Quinn 7:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:33 You set up cameras, the whole deal.

Colin Quinn 7:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:35 Did you inform them before, like the psychiatrists beforehand they were gonna be a part of a comedy special?

Colin Quinn 7:40 Well, they were, they were welcome to come to the show or not. But yeah, we told them before, you know, "If you come, you might be on film." But yeah, they didn't have to show up. Obviously, half of them probably showed up. But it was, uh, it was, it was-

Joe Rogan 7:51 That's a great idea.

Colin Quinn 7:51 ... interesting. Yeah, I thought it was, uh, because it's about the world, how we're having a psychotic break-

Joe Rogan 7:56 Hmm.

Colin Quinn 7:56 ... when we talk about the planet. So it was kind of, uh, fun for me because, you know, it w- it was interesting from that angle, you know?

Joe Rogan 8:03 Well-

Colin Quinn 8:03 The whole special is built around it.

Joe Rogan 8:05 ... it's so much more discussed. The bad news is so much more discussed. People's problems are so much more discussed. Having problems is so much more a thing that people love to talk about now. It makes you more interesting, it gives you something to talk about. And it's just so pervasive. And I think social media has just broken people's brains.

Colin Quinn 8:26 Social media started as a fun aunt's kitchen where everybody was being positive and saying like, "Hey," you know, "dance between the raindrops." And, and then suddenly somebody was like, "Shut up, bitch. You fat bitch."

Joe Rogan 8:39 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 8:39 "Fuck you and the raindrops." And it re- It just unleashed all of us.

Joe Rogan 8:42 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 8:42 That's, that's what I say. It's like, it unleashed that part of people. And here's the other thing, which I think you'll be interested in. It's the first time in history you can threaten people and curse them out and not have to run or have a physical confrontation. So fight-or-flight instinct is gonna be eliminated from our genetics-

Joe Rogan 9:00 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 9:00 ... in two generations.

Joe Rogan 9:01 Yeah. Not just that, but also you don't feel bad. Like, if you say something shitty to someone, you see the look on their face, even if you feel like you should have done it, when you're alone at night you might be like, "I didn't have to do that."

Colin Quinn 9:14 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:15 "Why did I do that? What a fucking asshole I am. Now that per- I f- I gotta apologize."

Colin Quinn 9:19 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:19 And then you'll see them the next day, like, "I was out of line. I'm sorry. I ju- I was dealing with a lot of shit, you know, my mom, my sister, my this, my that."

Colin Quinn 9:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:27 "Sorry. I'm sorry." There's none of that.

Colin Quinn 9:30 No.

Joe Rogan 9:30 And you don't even know these people too.

Colin Quinn 9:32 You don't have to say, you can't-

Joe Rogan 9:33 Just say the most evil, mean shit, vicious shit, look through their pictures, "Look at you, you fat fuck, and your, your fucking toothless smile," and (laughs) -

Colin Quinn 9:42 And they used to have, they used to have gossip magazines, like of celebrities in the 1950s. That's when they started to realize people love to read bad, scandalous stuff.

Joe Rogan 9:51 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 9:51 But now you get to respond. You're like the writer and the reader of the gossip magazine.

Joe Rogan 9:56 You know what I do enjoy though? When people don't understand how it works and they'll post something and just get smashed in the comments. And then they'll start going back and forth with people in the comments. They're like, "What are you doing?"

Colin Quinn 10:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:08 "What are you doing?"

Colin Quinn 10:09 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:11 (sighs)

Colin Quinn 10:11 Well, what about, uh, well, one of the biggest problems is people, this is one of many of them, trying to be funny that they, they've never had to... They, they've always thought they were kind of funny. And then they go in and try to be funny and they get away with a couple 'cause they have two people that go, "Hey, that was good." They start to think, "I'm funny." And then they get in there and people just start destroying them for trying to be funny 'cause they're not used to the heckling that we're used to.

Joe Rogan 10:36 Right.

Colin Quinn 10:36 We got trained out of all our hack habits.

Joe Rogan 10:39 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Colin Quinn 10:40 Comedy trains you. The audience trains you.

Joe Rogan 10:43 Mm-hmm. And being around other comics.

Colin Quinn 10:44 By not laughing and being around other comics who regulate you.

Joe Rogan 10:46 Other comics who are like, "What the fuck was that joke?"

Colin Quinn 10:48 And regulate you.

Joe Rogan 10:49 Yeah, yeah, it does. It does.

Colin Quinn 10:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:52 Yeah, you get feedback.

Colin Quinn 10:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:53 Feedback is important, positive and negative. You need it all.

Colin Quinn 10:56 It's a whole other level. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:57 Who gets more feedback than comics? We get, like real-

Colin Quinn 11:00 We get-

Joe Rogan 11:00 ... live feedback from hundreds-

Colin Quinn 11:02 ... live feedback.

Joe Rogan 11:02 ... of people every night.

Colin Quinn 11:02 Every night. You got feedback last night.

Joe Rogan 11:05 Just last night, 100 people.

Colin Quinn 11:06 You can't live in a theoretical world of like, "I think this is funny. I think this is good."

Joe Rogan 11:10 Mm-mm.

Colin Quinn 11:11 You're getting feedback.

Joe Rogan 11:12 Mm-mm. Yeah.

Colin Quinn 11:15 You know?

11:15 – 14:01

Standup as the last honest feedback loop (and why sitcom work can dull your act)

Joe Rogan 11:15 It's fun though. Don't you still enjoy it?

Colin Quinn 11:16 It's the best. It's the only honest, uh, reaction you can get in today. There's-

Joe Rogan 11:23 Well, it's-

Colin Quinn 11:23 ... nothing virtual about it.

Joe Rogan 11:24 ... the most honest form of entertainment because you write it, you perform it, you, you produce it, you edit it. Like, I was saying, like, how easy doing sitcoms was when I first started doing sitcoms.

Colin Quinn 11:36 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:37 I was like-

Colin Quinn 11:37 That's right.

Joe Rogan 11:37 I go, "They're great writers." They write you great jokes. You don't even have to work hard.

Colin Quinn 11:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:42 And I was talking about how bad my act suffered during those days-

Colin Quinn 11:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:45 ... 'cause when I was, uh, first on a sitcom in '94, we were working like 12 hours a day on just radio.

Colin Quinn 11:49 News radio.

Joe Rogan 11:50 Like, it was long, long, long days. So by the end of the day, I'm exhausted. So if I did go up, it was just the same old material-

Colin Quinn 11:57 That's right.

Joe Rogan 11:57 ... just reha- I wasn't connected to it anymore. I was like f- flat.

Colin Quinn 12:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:01 You know? And y- because when they're writing for you, it's so much easier. Like, the jokes are already there.

Colin Quinn 12:07 Of course.

Joe Rogan 12:08 All you have to do is, like, add your little sauce to them.

Colin Quinn 12:10 It's great.

Joe Rogan 12:11 You know, flare them up a little bit.

Colin Quinn 12:13 I know, I get so jealous of the idea of like the old days comedians would just have writers.

Joe Rogan 12:18 Oh, yeah?

Colin Quinn 12:19 Like, "What do you got for me?" We gotta go out and think of this stuff.

Joe Rogan 12:21 A few people still do that, right?

Colin Quinn 12:23 Yeah, I'm sure they do.

Joe Rogan 12:23 A few, few guys do. Like I, I know obviously the guys who host talk shows do.

Colin Quinn 12:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:28 You know, you can't write a new monologue every day. You'd be out of your mind or you'd be like-

Colin Quinn 12:31 I did on Tough Crowd.

Joe Rogan 12:32 You did, you wrote that every day?

Colin Quinn 12:33 Now, I'm not saying most of them didn't bomb, but I did write them all myself. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:37 No shit.

Colin Quinn 12:37 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:38 The, when I went to see you on Tough Crowd, the best part of it was you warming up the crowd.

Colin Quinn 12:41 (laughs) Thanks.

Joe Rogan 12:42 I was like, "Why don't they show this? This is funnier than the rest of the whole show."

Colin Quinn 12:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:47 It was so good.

Colin Quinn 12:48 Thanks.

Joe Rogan 12:49 It's so good.

Colin Quinn 12:49 It was fun and that crowd was crazy. They would come like alive.

Joe Rogan 12:53 Well, I was living in California at the time and I'd, I'd just like, sometimes I forget. Sometimes, you know, sometimes you haven't seen a guy in a while, you're like, "Goddamn, I forgot how funny Conan is."

Colin Quinn 13:01 Right, right, right.

Joe Rogan 13:03 You know, you just, you need to see it. You need to see them live.

Colin Quinn 13:05 You do. You need to go out and see it.

Joe Rogan 13:07 Yeah. It just gets in your head.

Colin Quinn 13:09 It's a busy...

Joe Rogan 13:09 It's the best thing. I mean, I, I've been doing it for so long, but I still love it. I love it. I love crowds, I love watching it, I love doing it, I love it. It's so much fun.

Colin Quinn 13:18 And, uh, and what's fun about it too is you can't... If you s- if you don't d- It's like working out. If you don't do it, you just get flabby and outta shape.

Joe Rogan 13:27 Yeah. No-

Colin Quinn 13:28 That's it.

Joe Rogan 13:28 ... that's it. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. When I take a t- like, time off, I go on vacation for like 10 days, I'll have one really good set when I come back, 'cause I'm enthusiastic.

Colin Quinn 13:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:36 And then the second set is like a little fucking shaky. I'm like, "What's going on with this set?"

Colin Quinn 13:39 And that's what's great.

Joe Rogan 13:41 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 13:41 But that's a horror, but that's the best part about it.

Joe Rogan 13:43 It's just reality.

Colin Quinn 13:44 Everybody that s- steps away from it too long-

Joe Rogan 13:47 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 13:47 ... they s- they talk in this term where it's like, "Oh, you gotta deal with reality." I'm mediocre when I get on stage. I'm gonna be mediocre tonight even though I don't wanna be, and I'm like, "Hey, I really figured this out." And guess what? I didn't figure it out, and the crowd will just let you know.

Joe Rogan 14:01 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 14:01 That's the beauty of it.

14:01 – 16:05

COVID comedy, Zoom hacks, teleprompters, and performing with imperfect memory

Joe Rogan 14:01 How much time did you take off during COVID?

Colin Quinn 14:04 I, I did a few shows. I mean, I did some shows that were like, on... I did remote shows, which I loved remote comedy.

Joe Rogan 14:11 Really?

Colin Quinn 14:11 I loved it.

Joe Rogan 14:12 Like Zoom comedy?

Colin Quinn 14:13 Zoom comedy. I did about-

Joe Rogan 14:14 You loved it?

Colin Quinn 14:15 I loved it.

Joe Rogan 14:15 You're the only guy I've talked to.

Colin Quinn 14:17 I mean-

Joe Rogan 14:17 Everybody else said it was hell.

Colin Quinn 14:19 Because I just read. They think I'm s- looking at them. I'm reading my act.

Joe Rogan 14:24 Ah.

Colin Quinn 14:24 So any new material was memorized immediately.

Joe Rogan 14:27 Oh.

Colin Quinn 14:28 It was great. Every new joke.

Joe Rogan 14:30 Maybe you should get a teleprompter.

Colin Quinn 14:31 What's that?

Joe Rogan 14:32 Maybe you should get a teleprompter.

Colin Quinn 14:32 I've tried teleprompters, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:34 Yeah?

Colin Quinn 14:34 I wish I could bring them up all the time, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:36 You try it on stage?

Colin Quinn 14:37 I love teleprompters.

Joe Rogan 14:39 No shit. Mm.

Colin Quinn 14:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:41 Yeah, it's a good way to make sure you remember your shit.

Colin Quinn 14:43 Yes. Teleprompter's the greatest.

Joe Rogan 14:45 'Cause the worst feeling is when you get back to the green room and you're like, "Fuck that tagline!"

Colin Quinn 14:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:50 "I forgot the tagline."

Colin Quinn 14:51 Yeah, or even the intro line, so you're like, "Of course it bombed. I didn't even explain what I was gonna talk about."

Joe Rogan 14:56 Yeah. (laughs)

Colin Quinn 14:57 I love it. Yeah, teleprompter's great. I'm on- But I've used teleprompters on shows when I did like one-man shows in New York and, uh, and you can't memorize with a teleprompter. You get lazy, mentally lazy. You can't... Then you go on the road and you're like, "Uh, uh..." You have to-

Joe Rogan 15:14 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 15:14 You think you'd say it every night, you memorize it, you can't. It's an interesting psychological, uh, thing.

Joe Rogan 15:18 I know some guys who, uh, lay out sheets of paper on the floor-

Colin Quinn 15:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:23 ... on the stage with like bullet points.

Colin Quinn 15:26 I've tried that, yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:26 Yeah?

Colin Quinn 15:27 It doesn't really work that well.

Joe Rogan 15:28 It's weird, you got to leave them on the ground.

Colin Quinn 15:29 The lights are weird.

Joe Rogan 15:30 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 15:30 Yeah, but you can't even see them.

Joe Rogan 15:32 Mm. Do you go on stage with glasses on?

Colin Quinn 15:35 No.

Joe Rogan 15:36 That-

Colin Quinn 15:36 This is-

Joe Rogan 15:36 That would help.

Colin Quinn 15:37 This is one of the first times I've been in glasses in public, so.

Joe Rogan 15:40 Really?

Colin Quinn 15:41 I hope the crow- Well, I wanted people to take me seriously during the interview.

Joe Rogan 15:44 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 15:44 And it's kind of a vibe. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 15:46 It's a vibe. It's hot on chicks. I don't know why.

Colin Quinn 15:50 Yes, I agree.

Joe Rogan 15:51 A girl who doesn't see that good for whatever reason (laughs) ...

Colin Quinn 15:55 (laughs) For whatever reason.

Joe Rogan 15:56 ... they just seem smarter. (laughs)

Colin Quinn 15:57 Hey, for whatever reason. Yeah, there's something intense. That only became in the '70s. That became like a thing.

Joe Rogan 16:02 Really?

Colin Quinn 16:02 Suddenly girls had glasses, yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:04 Girls with glasses are hotter?

16:05 – 18:01

Bruce Lee nostalgia to real-vs-fake martial arts (and the hidden cost of head trauma)

Colin Quinn 16:05 Yeah, they had the whole, with the whole new glasses. I'll tell you, certain people just look great in sunglasses. The first person I noticed as a kid, your, one of your idols, Bruce Lee.

Joe Rogan 16:14 Oh, yeah.

Colin Quinn 16:14 I go, "That guy looks badass in sunglasses."

Joe Rogan 16:16 Oh, yeah.

Colin Quinn 16:16 And he had like... They weren't completely dark, they were like mixed. I was like-

Joe Rogan 16:20 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 16:20 ... "That looks cool."

Joe Rogan 16:21 Yeah. He was a cool motherfucker.

Colin Quinn 16:23 He was a cool motherfucker.

Joe Rogan 16:25 Yeah. That dude changed the world.

Colin Quinn 16:27 Unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 16:28 Nobody thought about doing karate before Bruce Lee. (laughs)

Colin Quinn 16:31 No.

Joe Rogan 16:31 Nobody cared. (laughs)

Colin Quinn 16:32 Well, even when he was on The Green Hornet, I'm old enough, I was there for The Green Hornet days and you're like, "Yeah, that's kinda cool," but you didn't think about it. But the minute those movies came out, we all saw them when they first came out. I saw Chinese Connection it was called, Fist of Fury.

Joe Rogan 16:45 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 16:45 They changed the titles now, but it was Chinese Connection was the first one, then Fist of Fury, and then Enter the Dragon.

Joe Rogan 16:51 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 16:51 Those are the three big ones and, uh-

Joe Rogan 16:53 And it was the first time we ever saw somebody with abs.

Colin Quinn 16:56 Yes.

Joe Rogan 16:57 We're like, "Whoa."

Colin Quinn 16:58 Yes! (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:58 "How cool does that look?"

Colin Quinn 16:59 Yes.

Joe Rogan 16:59 How cool does it look to be ripped?

Colin Quinn 17:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:02 Look at that. What? Look at that. Come on.

Colin Quinn 17:03 I mean, I hate to say it but my profile pic when I was 19, I basically have the same physique. I don't care what anyone says. Um-

Joe Rogan 17:09 He kinda looks like a twink today though.

Colin Quinn 17:12 Yeah, he does.

Joe Rogan 17:12 ... if you compare them.

Colin Quinn 17:12 Well, 'cause nobody lifted weights in those days, you know.

Joe Rogan 17:16 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 17:16 But he was, he was the king.

Joe Rogan 17:18 Look at the abs on that motherfucker. Jesus Christ. Today, he'd be accused of having fake abs.

Colin Quinn 17:23 Yeah. Yeah, he's a badass.

Joe Rogan 17:25 Hmm. Bruce Lee gold medal sunglasses. Oh, you can buy them? Oh.

Colin Quinn 17:30 Yeah, but the, I don't think those are the ones I'm thinking about.

Joe Rogan 17:32 No?

Colin Quinn 17:33 No.

Joe Rogan 17:33 That one in that photo looks pretty fucking cool.

Colin Quinn 17:35 No, it wasn't these. It was some other look-

Joe Rogan 17:36 (clears throat)

Colin Quinn 17:36 ... where he just was casually wearing sunglasses. I'm like, "What a cool dude." Yeah, he was a badass. He was a real super s- He just was a star.

Joe Rogan 17:43 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, transcended.

Colin Quinn 17:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:47 Yeah. And then, and it also was happening during that weird time, the weird time in life in the '70s.

Colin Quinn 17:53 After Vietnam was really winding down-

Joe Rogan 17:55 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 17:56 ... it was almost done. Now we're back to 1968.

Joe Rogan 17:59 Yeah. We're right there, right now.

Colin Quinn 18:00 (clears throat) We're in 1968 right now.

18:01 – 34:39

Campus protests, ideology, and why moderates lose in a culture built for extremists

Joe Rogan 18:01 We're waiting for Kent State to jump off. You seen these fucking protests that are happening in colleges?

Colin Quinn 18:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:05 First of all, these kids are all wearing masks. They're outside, they're protesting, and they're all wearing masks.

Colin Quinn 18:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:13 I, I say that it's like the Democrats MAGA hat. That's what the mask is.

Colin Quinn 18:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:18 Isn't it?

Colin Quinn 18:19 Nice. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:20 You're letting everybody know. You're letting everybody know that you're a part of the clan.

Colin Quinn 18:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:23 That you're on the good side.

Colin Quinn 18:25 ... yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:25 I'm masking, I'm masking for your safety.

Colin Quinn 18:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:28 They're just bizarre human beings coming out of colleges today.

Colin Quinn 18:31 Well, I look at it-

Joe Rogan 18:32 Fully brainwashed.

Colin Quinn 18:33 Yeah. Well, it's j- I say it this, this way. It's, it's 20 pe- uh, let's say 20% of them are just, 20% of them are th- are kids that were raised to hate the West. Everything in the West is bad. They're brainwashed, if, which is really the whole curriculum is 20% of that. Then I'd say 20% are kids that are, they're ba- uh, they're the kids that feel like they wanna be, like, like when I was in college. Like when I was in college, remember this is happening during finals week, so 20% of finals protestors where somebody came up to- if somebody came up to me when I was in college and said, "Listen, next week is finals. You know you're gonna fail. How about this? We're gonna give you some money from this George Soros founded," it's a Venmo thing, just, "We're gonna give you money. You stand outside and you block the other..." Not only do you not have to take your finals, you're gonna block the kids that are gonna make you look bad and pass their finals. You're gonna block them from coming to class. I would have said, "Give me the, give me the, give me the scarf. I'll put it on right now."

Joe Rogan 19:45 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 19:45 Then you got 20% kids are gonna be, they're like the ones that are peer pressured by their roommates, 'cause if you're roommates with people in college, they know your schedule. So they go, "Hey, we're gonna go protest genocide." You can't say, "I'm going, I was gonna go to the bar."

Joe Rogan 20:03 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 20:03 So half these kids are like, "Goddammit. Now I gotta go out to the protest or I look bad in front of all my roommates."

Joe Rogan 20:09 Have you ever seen when they get interviewed? The Konstantin Kisin from, uh, Trigonometry, he went to the protests and he was just asking them-

Colin Quinn 20:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:16 ... like, "What, the river to the sea, what does that mean to you?"

Colin Quinn 20:19 Right.

Joe Rogan 20:19 Like, asking questions.

Colin Quinn 20:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:21 Like, "What do you, what do you think should happen?" Like, uh, "Wh- wha- how, what is, what do you think the history of Palestine is?"

Colin Quinn 20:26 Right.

Joe Rogan 20:27 Like... (laughs)

Colin Quinn 20:27 That, yeah. And now they're literally pr- they're literally praying, they're praying to Mecca now. Did you see all the footage of them?

Joe Rogan 20:34 Oh, wonderful.

Colin Quinn 20:35 They're bowing. It's like, "I am objectively, like, gonna put a fatwa on my mother if she doesn't..."

Joe Rogan 20:39 I just wanna come out publicly and say it. China, Russia, you guys won.

Colin Quinn 20:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:43 You won.

Colin Quinn 20:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:44 You got our kids. You got the kids. You got a lot of them.

Colin Quinn 20:47 No, they-

Joe Rogan 20:47 You got more of them than you didn't get.

Colin Quinn 20:49 No, they don't want them. Listen, China, uh, it, uh, China, they're teaching kids computer engineering.

Joe Rogan 20:55 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 20:55 All schools are teaching, like, you know, uh-

Joe Rogan 20:57 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 20:57 ... state-sanctioned violence in Shakespeare sonnets and, you know...

Joe Rogan 21:01 Guys with fake eyelashes reading to toddlers.

Colin Quinn 21:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:04 Yeah. That's what it is. That's what-

Colin Quinn 21:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:06 ... TikTok is. Our TikTok's a disaster.

Colin Quinn 21:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:07 Yeah, they're smart. I mean, they got us. They got us. They won. They won the ideological battle.

Colin Quinn 21:12 Uh.

Joe Rogan 21:12 They've destroyed our universities.

Colin Quinn 21:13 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:14 They've destroyed our education system.

Colin Quinn 21:15 But they didn't. We did.

Joe Rogan 21:16 Yeah, but they did. They infiltrated the universities.

Colin Quinn 21:19 It happened way before that. In my opinion-

Joe Rogan 21:22 When did it happen?

Colin Quinn 21:22 They just went like thi- all they had to do was go like this.

Joe Rogan 21:25 You ever see Yuri Bezmenov talk about it? For the, he's a f-

Colin Quinn 21:28 No.

Joe Rogan 21:28 ... defector from the KGB. He talked about it in a famous interview from 1984. We talk about it way too much, so I'm p- sorry if you're hearing this again, folks. But he basically laid out exactly what was gonna happen to America in 1964, and he was saying-

Colin Quinn 21:40 64?

Joe Rogan 21:41 Yep. Or excuse me, 1984. He was saying that Marxism and, uh, L- Leninist ideas have been, they've infiltrated all the universities with these ideas. They're teaching them to children, and you'll have, like, two generations from now, you're gonna be fucked.

Colin Quinn 21:54 Well, yeah, that's what I'm s- I'm saying. It started long before any of this China and R- he, he didn't say-

Joe Rogan 21:59 But they did it. China didn't rush-

Colin Quinn 21:59 ... he didn't say they did it.

Joe Rogan 22:00 ... and did it. He said Russia did it.

Colin Quinn 22:01 Ah.

Joe Rogan 22:01 He said Russia was doing it. So they're actively subverting our, our education system.

Colin Quinn 22:06 But I feel like the idea of this kinda thing started long before, you know, befor- I mean, it's been around a long time, because people are like, "Hey, it sounds fair." Like, equality sounds fair.

Joe Rogan 22:18 Right.

Colin Quinn 22:19 So then they slowly started bringing it in, and people... The general narrative is if you say, if I say to you right now, or if you say it anywhere, "I think America's a great country," people go, "Oh my God. Do you hear this psychopath?"

Joe Rogan 22:32 You're a Nazi.

Colin Quinn 22:33 "What an idiot. He's the dumbest person I've ever met."

Joe Rogan 22:34 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 22:35 So I'm saying if you start from the premise that America is evil, which is basically the premise today, and everything we do is, you know, based on oppression and violence, then anybody that goes against that, there's something evil about them.

Joe Rogan 22:52 Yes.

Colin Quinn 22:55 So I don't think that was Russia and China doing that. I think that was us doing it.

Joe Rogan 22:58 I think Russia and China influenced it, particularly Russia.

Colin Quinn 23:01 I think they just agreed... They, they were, well, useful idiots and all that stuff-

Joe Rogan 23:04 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 23:05 ... they used to talk about. Yeah, but I think they didn't, I didn't think they had far to go. I don't think you could do it unless people wanted to go along with that.

Joe Rogan 23:12 Well, it's also a situation where your universities are almost entirely dedicated towards one ideology.

Colin Quinn 23:18 That's right.

Joe Rogan 23:19 You don't have any... Look, there's clearly, over history, regardless of what you think about right-wing people, clearly, over history, there have been brilliant conservative people.

Colin Quinn 23:29 Sure.

Joe Rogan 23:29 And to not address that and to not have those people talk and to only allow liberal people to talk or progressive people to talk, you're gonna get a distorted world view.

Colin Quinn 23:38 Yeah, that's right.

Joe Rogan 23:38 And that's what these kids are getting.

Colin Quinn 23:40 That's, well, I mean, even just the fact that Russia and China didn't force them to stop people from speaking at these places. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 23:47 Right.

Colin Quinn 23:47 Like, that's-

Joe Rogan 23:48 Right.

Colin Quinn 23:48 ... that's what's been going on for whatever amount of years.

Joe Rogan 23:50 So, yeah, active censorship.

Colin Quinn 23:51 And you're like me. You're not some right-wing guy or, you know what I mean? You're not-

Joe Rogan 23:55 No.

Colin Quinn 23:55 But, but you've been pushed into a category that people are saying you're this kinda guy because they're so far to the left and so stringent ideologically that if you fluctuate, you're o- you're out of the loop. And that's, that's a cult.

Joe Rogan 24:11 It is a cult. But isn't it, I mean, it's one of the beauties...... one of the beautiful things about America is the amount of freedom we have of expression. And when you have that, and you have 330 million people, you're gonna have a certain percentage of people that are just off the rails insane.

Colin Quinn 24:26 Yes.

Joe Rogan 24:27 And if those people are rabid about it and excited about it, a lot of people find that attractive. Just like a lot of people find Islam attractive. And they don't just find it attractive because of the discipline and the tenets and all the different things that seem to resonate with some people. They find it attractive 'cause those people are all in, and you wanna be in a group that's all in. Like, "If I leave, they'll kill me?"

Colin Quinn 24:45 That's right.

Joe Rogan 24:45 "They'll kill you if you leave, but you can join."

Colin Quinn 24:47 That's right.

Joe Rogan 24:47 "You can join. They'll take you in as a brother." "Ooh, I wanna join." And then people just... It becomes attractive to them.

Colin Quinn 24:53 Because moderates are considered pussy. I talk about this all the time.

Joe Rogan 24:57 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 24:57 Moderates are considered... All you can see is a bland guy in Dockers-

Joe Rogan 25:02 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 25:02 ... with his goddamn, you know, with his dad bod, and nobody's interested in moderates.

Joe Rogan 25:07 Fence sitters.

Colin Quinn 25:08 Fence sitters. I say even in, even in Superman, you've got Lois Lane. She sees Clark Kent, nice guy, like, "Hey, Lois, wanna have dinner?" He's like, "Ugh." "Just dinner, Clark." "No. All right, I'm sorry." And then Superman, who shows up two hours a week, who's an extremist, just breaks shit, and she's like, "Uh, Superman." Uh. So...

Joe Rogan 25:26 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 25:27 So I'm saying, we... Our whole culture is built around extremists. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:31 Right.

Colin Quinn 25:32 Like, the, the hero in the movie walks away after blowing up a hydroelectric d- dam. He's never the guy that troubleshoots the hydroelectric dam. That should be the hero in every movie.

Joe Rogan 25:41 Imagine being Clark Kent and you got to deal-

Colin Quinn 25:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:44 ... with this lady just constantly talking up Superman.

Colin Quinn 25:47 Ah. Sick of it.

Joe Rogan 25:47 And talking down to you.

Colin Quinn 25:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:49 And you're like, "Bitch, you don't know shit."

Colin Quinn 25:51 Yes.

Joe Rogan 25:52 And you just gotta sit there and take it, 'cause you just can't spill the beans. You wanna say, "Hey, fucking dummy."

Colin Quinn 25:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:57 You wanna just take the glass off. "Were you stupid?"

Colin Quinn 26:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:00 "I'm the same guy, but just wearing glasses."

Colin Quinn 26:01 I'm just... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:02 "I tricked you with glasses."

Colin Quinn 26:04 I catfished you. Clark Kent's catfished.

Joe Rogan 26:06 "You didn't notice that I'm built like a fucking linebacker? You didn't notice that I look like a giant super person?"

Colin Quinn 26:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:12 "Oh, I just have glasses on, so now I'm a loser."

Colin Quinn 26:14 Well, because she never slept with him. That's why she didn't notice.

Joe Rogan 26:16 Right.

Colin Quinn 26:17 'Cause she was like, "Clark, lay off."

Joe Rogan 26:20 Do you think Clark would, like, show off, like, every now and then, like, pick something up he shouldn't be able to pick up?

Colin Quinn 26:24 Yeah, but she didn't care.

Joe Rogan 26:25 Oh, I didn't know.

Colin Quinn 26:26 Clark's an incel.

Joe Rogan 26:27 Yeah, he is an incel.

Colin Quinn 26:28 An angry incel.

Joe Rogan 26:29 A handsome, angry, football quarterback-looking incel.

Colin Quinn 26:33 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:34 He's an incel. (laughs)

Colin Quinn 26:35 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:35 Just 'cause of glasses. Isn't that funny? Like, that was the only disguise he had, was glasses. It's the dumbest fucking disguise in all of comic books. At least Batman... Like, maybe if he had a weird face, like if he had, like, a cleft palate. You're like, "Hey, buddy. I fucking... I know who you are." But no.

Colin Quinn 26:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:51 You know, you just, you see the little, the little face part, and the rest of the face is covered. Like, "Okay." Hides his voice. "I'm Batman."

Colin Quinn 26:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:58 "Okay. Okay, maybe."

Colin Quinn 27:00 But is Superman?

Joe Rogan 27:00 But he's talking about... Yeah. It's, it's fucking stupid.

Colin Quinn 27:03 It is stupid. But the, um... But speaking of, uh, Bruce Lee, the Green Hornet had a mask.

Joe Rogan 27:09 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 27:09 But then Kato was Bruce Lee.

Joe Rogan 27:11 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 27:12 We didn't realize... By the way, here's a stupid sitcom I'm watching as a little kid. We didn't realize there's a lifetime legend playing the sidekick.

Joe Rogan 27:20 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 27:20 How many times does that happen-

Joe Rogan 27:22 Never.

Colin Quinn 27:22 ... in life? And... But even then, but he wore this little chauffeur's outfit.

Joe Rogan 27:26 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 27:26 If I remember correctly.

Joe Rogan 27:27 Yep.

Colin Quinn 27:28 Bruce Lee wore, like, a... He was, like, the sh- sidekick.

Joe Rogan 27:31 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 27:31 But he was... But even then, you could see a star qual- Like, even as the sidekick, the two scenes, you're like, "This guy's a badass." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:38 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 27:38 I was, like, five years old, six years old. I'm like, "Look at this."

Joe Rogan 27:41 You know, he was supposed to be in that TV show, Kung Fu.

Colin Quinn 27:44 Really?

Joe Rogan 27:45 Yeah, it was supposed to be about him. It wasn't supposed to be David Carradine.

Colin Quinn 27:47 And why did he say no?

Joe Rogan 27:49 They didn't wanna have a Chinese guy on TV.

Colin Quinn 27:51 That's insane.

Joe Rogan 27:52 Is that wild?

Colin Quinn 27:52 And they picked David Carradine?

Joe Rogan 27:54 Yeah, but it worked. The crazy thing with David Carradine-

Colin Quinn 27:56 He did what?

Joe Rogan 27:56 ... is that it worked.

Colin Quinn 27:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:58 It worked. That show worked. I loved that show. I used to love that show.

Colin Quinn 28:02 Yeah, it was a great show.

Joe Rogan 28:03 I was a little kid.

Colin Quinn 28:03 'Cause every episode, every episode, there was... Uh, uh, although, let's face it, there was... When you really look at it, it was kind of a woke show. Um-

Joe Rogan 28:10 A little bit.

Colin Quinn 28:11 Every week, it was intolerance.

Joe Rogan 28:13 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 28:13 And then David Carradine, Carradine would come and save the day, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 28:16 Yeah, kick some ass. He always had to use violence, though, it seems.

Colin Quinn 28:18 But he wasn't that great of a martial arts guy.

Joe Rogan 28:20 Oh, it was terrible. It was nonsense. It was totally unbelievable. But the way he was doing it was like, if you didn't know any better, you're like, "Oh, yeah, he's got magic."

Colin Quinn 28:28 But if Bruce Lee had done that, he would have broke (clears throat) , not the internet, but he would have broke TV wide open.

Joe Rogan 28:34 Oh, yeah. If he started-

Colin Quinn 28:34 That would have been the best show of all time.

Joe Rogan 28:36 ... wheel kicking people, and, like, jumping side kickin' people in the face. You'd be like, "Whoa." It would've changed everything. But the movies changed everything. I mean, he, he broke through just 'cause he was undeniable. The fact that-

Colin Quinn 28:46 Oh, yeah. We... He was-

Joe Rogan 28:48 And that was supposed to be him on that television show.

Colin Quinn 28:49 They opened... I'll tell you all the karate studios. Jerome Mackey, these are all the karate... These were big karate guys back when I was a kid, like karate teachers.

Joe Rogan 28:57 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 28:57 All... He opened thousands of karate studios-

Joe Rogan 29:01 Sure.

Colin Quinn 29:01 ... around the country.

Joe Rogan 29:02 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 29:02 Bruce Lee alone.

Joe Rogan 29:03 Absolutely.

Colin Quinn 29:04 You know?

Joe Rogan 29:04 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 29:05 It became a thing.

Joe Rogan 29:06 Bruce Lee and then Chuck Norris was how I got into martial arts.

Colin Quinn 29:09 Yeah, Chuck Norris, fighting.

Joe Rogan 29:10 Jean-Claude Van Damme, watching those movies. Some people got into it.

Colin Quinn 29:12 How about this name? Bill Wallace? You ever hear of him?

Joe Rogan 29:15 Yeah, Superfoot.

Colin Quinn 29:15 (laughs) He was crazy.

Joe Rogan 29:17 Yeah, he was a great kickboxer.

Colin Quinn 29:18 And there was a guy named Joe Lewis.

Joe Rogan 29:20 Yeah, Joe Lewis.

Colin Quinn 29:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:21 Heavyweight champion.

Colin Quinn 29:22 Yes. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:22 Not in boxing, but in kickboxing.

Colin Quinn 29:24 That's right.

Joe Rogan 29:24 Yeah, white guy.

Colin Quinn 29:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:26 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 29:26 There was a bunch of...

Joe Rogan 29:27 Great fighter.

Colin Quinn 29:27 Jim Kelly was a great fighter.

Joe Rogan 29:28 Mm-hmm, yeah.

Colin Quinn 29:28 He was in Bruce Lee movies too.

Joe Rogan 29:30 Did you ever do karate, or did you just follow it?

Colin Quinn 29:32 I... I, I mean, I, I did a couple of classes, but I was, uh, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 29:36 It's crazy that you know about all those guys like Joe Lewis. How about Benny Urquidez? Do you know about him?

Colin Quinn 29:39 Well, uh, my... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:41 Benny The Jet.

Colin Quinn 29:41 Benny The Jet, of course.

Joe Rogan 29:42 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 29:43 Well, because, um, when I... I always tell this, but when I was a kid, the trains were so dangerous in New York. Like, I mean, it was... This is nothing now compared to when I was growing up. But what I would do is, instead of taking karate, I... We used to buy Karate Magazine, and I'd stand on the train with my legs splayed like this and stand and read my karate magazine.

Joe Rogan 30:04 Good move.

Colin Quinn 30:05 Who's gonna read a karate magazine unless there's a karate... Then I ran into Owen... Do you know Owen Smith? He's a comedian.

Joe Rogan 30:11 Yes.

Colin Quinn 30:12 From Baltimore. I t- I somehow mentioned that story one night to him, and he goes-... he goes, "I took you one better." He goes, "I bought (laughs) a karate trophy, and I used to walk around the streets holding my karate trophy."

Joe Rogan 30:28 (laughs) That's hilarious.

Colin Quinn 30:30 So while you were studying martial arts, seriously, just remember there was a whole bunch of lazy pricks that bought magazines and trophies just so, we were like, stolen valor of martial arts.

Joe Rogan 30:40 You gotta, pe- people find a workaround.

Colin Quinn 30:42 You know? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:42 There was, a lot of dudes walked around with, uh, kung fu outfits on.

Colin Quinn 30:45 Yeah. Yes.

Joe Rogan 30:47 With the slippers, the whole, uh, black kung fu outfit with the white collar.

Colin Quinn 30:52 Abso- absolutely.

Joe Rogan 30:53 Yep. Yeah.

Colin Quinn 30:53 To this day, they still do. And to this day I'm still like, "Oh, I don't want to fuck with that guy." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:58 Yeah. I- I used to go watch them practice in the park and they were faking martial arts. They, like, it was made up stuff.

Colin Quinn 31:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:04 They were doing made up things.

Colin Quinn 31:05 What do you mean?

Joe Rogan 31:06 They were doing, the moves were nonsense. It was made up.

Colin Quinn 31:08 (laughs) And you knew they were made up?

Joe Rogan 31:10 100%. Yeah, 100%. They were doing stuff that just, there's no history of this.

Colin Quinn 31:16 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 31:17 Like, I, like I don't study kung fu, but I n- understand it.

Colin Quinn 31:20 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:20 I know it. I know what it looks like. I've watched it. Thousands of videos on it. I've seen classes. I know, I know what kung fu is.

Colin Quinn 31:27 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:27 You're not doing kung fu. You're f-

Colin Quinn 31:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:28 ... you're fucking, you're doing some shit you think looks like kung fu and you're telling people that you're a master and you're practicing in the park and you got a bunch of other dumb people that are following you, and there's a lot of that out there.

Colin Quinn 31:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:38 There was a lot... Before the UFC came around, there was a lot of fake martial arts, guys who pretended they had, like, some touch of death.

Colin Quinn 31:44 Yes.

Joe Rogan 31:45 And their students were, like, hypnotized. They were like in a cult.

Colin Quinn 31:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:48 They would touch their students and their students would, like, fall to the ground. They're still out there. There's, there's a, there's a video-

Colin Quinn 31:52 Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 31:53 There's an, uh, Instagram page, McDojoLife. McDojoLife just highlights all these fake martial artists. 'Cause McDojo is like those, uh, strip mall-

Colin Quinn 32:02 Yes.

Joe Rogan 32:02 ... places that-

Colin Quinn 32:03 Yes.

Joe Rogan 32:03 ... open up their price, which some of them are really good.

Colin Quinn 32:05 Sure.

Joe Rogan 32:05 But, you know, just those locations.

Colin Quinn 32:06 It depends on the teacher.

Joe Rogan 32:07 Yeah. But this, this idea of, uh, like a death touch that people had, like, some secret powers or something.

Colin Quinn 32:13 It's the dream, yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:14 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 32:15 I tell you, I took six judo lessons when I was a little kid. I should say before the martial arts craze. I took s-... And I really wish I would have stuck with judo, but, but in those days, like there was no, like, panic, so you'd walk out of class with the worst headache-

Joe Rogan 32:28 Oh, yeah.

Colin Quinn 32:28 ... of all time. I probably would have headaches.

Joe Rogan 32:29 Oh, you're getting brain damage.

Colin Quinn 32:30 Yeah, you're getting brain damage.

Joe Rogan 32:31 100... You're getting brain damage in regular judo.

Colin Quinn 32:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:34 100%. 100%.

Colin Quinn 32:36 Judo's badass though.

Joe Rogan 32:36 You, you get brain damage... Oh, it's amazing. It's an amazing martial art. But you can, you get brain damage from riding a Jet Ski.

Colin Quinn 32:42 You do?

Joe Rogan 32:43 Yeah. My friend, Mark Gordon, he, he specializes in traumatic brain injuries. He's a doctor and he works with a lot of veterans, football players, fighters, and stuff, and he's like, "Everything that hits your head is bad." Like soccer. Guys get CTE, chronic traumatic encephalopathy, the things that boxers get and football players get and MMA fighters get. The soccer players get it from hitting it with their head.

Colin Quinn 33:04 But how do you get it from a Jet Ski?

Joe Rogan 33:06 The bouncing. Just the bouncing.

Colin Quinn 33:09 Then how come they tell you-

Joe Rogan 33:09 You don't-

Colin Quinn 33:10 ... you're not supposed to go on those, uh, gymnastic, uh, whatever that's called. They said it's healthy for you.

Joe Rogan 33:14 Trampolines?

Colin Quinn 33:15 Yeah, trampoline.

Joe Rogan 33:16 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 33:16 Speaking of CTE I have, like-

Joe Rogan 33:16 I don't think it's this jolting- ... 'cause that's kind of like catching you.

Colin Quinn 33:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:20 And lifting you up and catching you-

Colin Quinn 33:22 Oh.

Joe Rogan 33:22 ... and lifting you up. That's a different thing than boom, boom, boom.

Colin Quinn 33:27 Oh.

Joe Rogan 33:27 It's the heavy duty shaking, headbanging. Like Angus from AC/DC?

Colin Quinn 33:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:31 Gotta have brain damage.

Colin Quinn 33:32 Yes.

Joe Rogan 33:33 There's no way he doesn't.

Colin Quinn 33:33 Shaking the brain.

Joe Rogan 33:34 There's no way he doesn't. That dude has to be gone. I mean, f- (laughs)

Colin Quinn 33:38 But who the hell goes on a Jet Ski more than, like, once a year? Let's think about that.

Joe Rogan 33:42 Um, some Jet Ski people that really love them.

Colin Quinn 33:45 Yeah, they do.

Joe Rogan 33:45 Jet Skis are fun. Yeah. I have a Jet Ski.

Colin Quinn 33:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:47 I love it.

Colin Quinn 33:47 I tried it. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:47 It's fun. But if you bounce around on waves, you're getting brain damage. That's how delicate the brain is.

Colin Quinn 33:52 Man.

Joe Rogan 33:53 The brain is not meant to be jostled around. And guys get concussions from getting hit in the chest.

Colin Quinn 33:59 Right.

Joe Rogan 33:59 If you get hit in the chest, your head snaps back and you get a concussion. It happens all the time. You don't have to get hit in the head to get a concussion.

Colin Quinn 34:08 Well, yeah. Yeah, but that's what-

Joe Rogan 34:10 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 34:10 ... that's why I, it's a good thing I stopped judo 'cause every day-

Joe Rogan 34:13 Judo's rough.

Colin Quinn 34:13 ... I'd have a horrible headache.

Joe Rogan 34:14 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 34:14 I was a little kid, you know what I mean?

Guest 34:15 Also, these guys crash pretty horribly.

Joe Rogan 34:17 Oh my God. Well, that's different. That's ski jumping.

Colin Quinn 34:20 I know.

Joe Rogan 34:20 That's insane.

Guest 34:20 But this is what the ar- the article on skiing was bringing up, uh-

Joe Rogan 34:23 Oh my God. That's insane. That dude hit hard.

Guest 34:25 ... how hard they hit.

Joe Rogan 34:27 Oh. Must be nuts.

Guest 34:28 They're going 30... It's like, uh...

Joe Rogan 34:29 So this is a water skiing tournament? Is that what that is?

Guest 34:31 That's what that was. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:32 Yeah.

Guest 34:32 This is, like, an article about water skiers getting CTE.

Joe Rogan 34:35 Oh, yeah. Have to. No doubt. No doubt they have it. No doubt.

34:39 – 43:01

Dolphins, killer whales, and a high-at-sea consciousness thought experiment

Colin Quinn 34:39 I bet, I bet dolphins have CTE.

Joe Rogan 34:41 I bet they don't. I bet they glide right into that water column.

Colin Quinn 34:44 Everybody always says how smart they are and I'm like, "Yeah, they seem really intelligent sometimes."

Joe Rogan 34:48 You're dismissing the intelligence of dolphins?

Colin Quinn 34:50 Yeah. When anybody bounces a beach ball on their nose and that's their, they're the valedictorian of the animal kingdom, that's enough for me. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:56 I think you have to do that if you're trapped in that swimming pool if you want to get fed.

Colin Quinn 35:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:00 I think you'd put a beach ball in your nose too.

Colin Quinn 35:02 (laughs) Yeah, right.

Joe Rogan 35:03 That's the problem. The problem is we're so evil we'll take intelligent things and lock them in a swimming pool-

Colin Quinn 35:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:07 ... if we can't understand their language. Like, "What? What?"

Colin Quinn 35:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:10 "I don't know what you're saying. Do you want a fish or not? Here's the ball, motherfucker." That's what it is.

Colin Quinn 35:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:20 Out in the wild though, they're awesome.

Colin Quinn 35:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:21 They play with you. They come hang out.

Colin Quinn 35:23 They do.

Joe Rogan 35:23 They go by your boat. They, they jump and they, they literally want you to see them. They, they play with people. You can swim with them. They'll save you from sharks. If sharks are-

Colin Quinn 35:32 Oh, I've seen that.

Joe Rogan 35:33 ... coming by, they'll fight the sharks off.

Colin Quinn 35:34 I saw a video of that.

Joe Rogan 35:35 Yeah. They save people from sharks-

Guest 35:36 It's pretty cool.

Joe Rogan 35:36 ... all the time. They have a cerebral cortex that's 40% larger than a human being's.

Colin Quinn 35:41 What?

Joe Rogan 35:42 Yeah. 40%.

Colin Quinn 35:45 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 35:45 They have dialects.

Colin Quinn 35:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:46 They have different dialects. Like you talk like you're from New York.

Colin Quinn 35:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:49 You know? I, I have, like, a little bit of Boston, a little bit of California.

Colin Quinn 35:51 Right. Right.

Joe Rogan 35:52 Like all fucked up. If you... They can tell from dolphins listening to their, their vocal patterns, where they're from.

Colin Quinn 35:59 Now wait a minute.

Joe Rogan 36:00 But they can't decipher it yet, but they're hoping they can do that through AI.

Colin Quinn 36:03 Okay. First of all, if you don't have a routine about dolphins' accents, you're crazy.

Joe Rogan 36:08 ... I think I- I-

Colin Quinn 36:09 I'll steal it if you don't do it.

Joe Rogan 36:10 ... I had a bit about dolphins, about taking ... A true story, actually.

Colin Quinn 36:12 You got to tell ... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:13 It's a true story. It was... I got on very high edibles with my daughter, and we went fishing. And, uh, these dolphins came by the, the boats. And they were jumping up in the air. And then I, I had this crazy thought that what if the c- the concept of me ... Like, we think ... When you think of yourself as m- ... I ... You know, when you refer to yourself, me, you're thinking of yourself living in this world with these genes and this city and this street. But the thought of me, like, what if me to me is the same as me to a dolphin? And then I thought, like, what if that's the same with all human beings? Everybody's just experiencing life through different biological circumstances, different life experiences. But what if me is the same in every single human being, just diff- dealing with different problems?

Colin Quinn 37:00 No. What does that mean? I don't even understand what you're saying.

Joe Rogan 37:02 What I'm saying is, that when you think of yourself-

Colin Quinn 37:05 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:05 ... when you think consequent, like, when you think, like, "Oh, I'm looking at the world. This is me."

Colin Quinn 37:10 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:10 That energy of what me is ... This is how high I was. I was on, like, 200 milligrams-

Colin Quinn 37:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:15 ... of, uh, pot edible on a boat in the middle of the ocean in Hawaii. Just amazing experience.

Colin Quinn 37:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:20 But I was thinking the c- ... Like, when the dolphins would jump up, they would look at you, they look you in the eye.

Colin Quinn 37:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:26 And you see that they're intelligent.

Colin Quinn 37:27 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:28 And I was thinking, like, "What if I lived his life? I would be him."

Colin Quinn 37:32 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:32 "And what if he lived my life? He would be me."

Colin Quinn 37:34 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:34 And then what I think of as me, is just me stumbling into a bunch of experiences with very particular genetics, and very particular, like, life lessons-

Colin Quinn 37:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:44 ... that I'm carrying around. And I think that's me. But what if the energy of me, the very core of it, is exactly the same in everybody? We're just experiencing life through different circumstances-

Colin Quinn 37:54 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:54 ... but it's the same thing.

Colin Quinn 37:56 That's God.

Joe Rogan 37:57 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 37:58 What about, um, the, uh ... You know, I was thinking about ... When I was thinking about the whole martial arts thing too, was, uh, when you think about dolphins fighting sharks-

Joe Rogan 38:07 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 38:07 ... or saving people from sharks, that's almost a martial art too.

Joe Rogan 38:11 Oh, yeah. Well, do you ever see what killer whales do to sharks?

Colin Quinn 38:13 No.

Joe Rogan 38:14 Ooh. There's this video of this mother killer whale-

Colin Quinn 38:16 But they're big. It doesn't count.

Joe Rogan 38:17 Oh yeah, they fuck everybody up. There's this video of this m- ... By the way, they save people too. And the only time they've ever killed people is in swimming pools. They save people all the time. Killer whales save people that fall in the water, they save ... They eat everything. They kill dolphins, they kill whales, they kill everybody, but they don't kill people.

Colin Quinn 38:32 Wow.

Joe Rogan 38:33 We f- ... We kill them, but they don't kill us. It's ... The only time they've ever killed people on record ... I mean, there's probably been a few circumstances where people were cunts-

Colin Quinn 38:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:40 ... and the killer whale kills them.

Colin Quinn 38:42 God always coming, God always coming to them.

Joe Rogan 38:43 Yeah, some asshole tried to harpoon their sister or something.

Colin Quinn 38:46 Sure.

Joe Rogan 38:46 You know, I'm sure that happened. But the, the point is that, like, killer whales don't actively target people when it'd be really fucking easy to do. So, check this w- this killer whale fucks this shark up. So she's out there with her ... Look at this. Boom!

Colin Quinn 39:00 Wow.

Joe Rogan 39:01 She's out there with her cubs, and she just puts the fucking clamp down on this great white. Oh, it's pretty wild.

Colin Quinn 39:08 She killed-

Joe Rogan 39:08 But that's ... It also makes you realize how big killer sharks are, or killer whales rather.

Colin Quinn 39:12 Killer whales, yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:13 Killer ... Look at that. Boom!

Colin Quinn 39:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:16 I mean.

Colin Quinn 39:17 I just saw something the other day of a killer whale around a boat, some little boat. And it was just ... You could tell the guy's like, "Oh God, it's over for me."

Joe Rogan 39:26 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 39:26 And then the whale didn't bother him, like you said.

Joe Rogan 39:28 Yeah. They generally-

Colin Quinn 39:29 He's just ... He's checked 'em out and left.

Joe Rogan 39:29 ... don't fuck with you.

Colin Quinn 39:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:31 And I think you can kind of talk to them. I think if you l- ... I think they understand. If you're like, "Hey!" You're cool.

Colin Quinn 39:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:38 Like, you know ... If you're pol- polishing up (clears throat) a big metal spear with a, a rope on the end of it, then they might get a little angry and they'll probably fuck you up. I bet that if ... I bet if there have been people dying, because ... Is this the guy? Look at that little boat. Deeper. (water splashing) Oh! (laughs) Oh, he got bumped. Oh my God. (laughs) Oh, it's right under him.

Colin Quinn 39:59 Wow.

Joe Rogan 39:59 Whoa. You guys getting this? (water splashing)

Colin Quinn 40:03 Yes.

Joe Rogan 40:04 Let's get out of here.

Colin Quinn 40:04 Let's get out of here.

Joe Rogan 40:05 Run! By the way, but that was a gentle bump.

Colin Quinn 40:08 That was nothing. No, it was just something else.

Joe Rogan 40:10 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 40:10 But how about that? Is that not the battle cry of today, "You guys getting this?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:14 Yes.

Colin Quinn 40:15 That's-

Joe Rogan 40:15 It is.

Colin Quinn 40:16 That's the most important thing anyone could say.

Joe Rogan 40:18 Oh, my God. The 'Gram. We gotta get it on the 'Gram.

Colin Quinn 40:20 (laughs) Are you guys getting this?

Joe Rogan 40:21 Do you even have Instagram?

Colin Quinn 40:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:23 You do?

Colin Quinn 40:23 Sure.

Joe Rogan 40:24 Do you make Reels? Do you ever make, like, positive-

Colin Quinn 40:26 No.

Joe Rogan 40:26 "Hey guys, you can really do it. Push through it." Do you ever do any of that?

Colin Quinn 40:28 Well, I've kind of ... Ironically, as you know, I've been doing that for years. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:33 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 40:33 I'm kind of a soccer mom on social media just to infuriate people.

Joe Rogan 40:37 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 40:37 That's my whole game.

Joe Rogan 40:40 Ugh.

Colin Quinn 40:41 But I do, uh ... You know, I've been doing this series called Block by Block on YouTube, which is, um ... With this guy, a homeless pimp, you know him? Mike Lavin. But we do-

Joe Rogan 40:49 I didn't know you were doing this.

Colin Quinn 40:51 Yeah, no, I have a bunch of episodes where I interview ... It's, it's my little, you know ... Like, the thing I care the most about about doing it, which is I interview people from different neighborhoods that ... In New York that I know over the years, and then just get them to tell stories about their neighborhood. So I was talking to my friend from Hell's Kitchen, Mike Spillane.

Joe Rogan 41:10 So this is it here? I didn't even know this was out there.

Colin Quinn 41:12 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:13 Y-

Colin Quinn 41:13 I just want Steve Kelly-

Joe Rogan 41:14 One, one problem with really great comics-

Colin Quinn 41:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:16 ... and I include you in there-

Colin Quinn 41:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:17 ... is that you guys are terrible at promoting things.

Colin Quinn 41:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:22 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 41:22 I know.

Joe Rogan 41:22 You know what I'm saying?

Colin Quinn 41:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:23 But it's also why the stuff you put out is so great, because you're only thinking about the stuff. You're not thinking about promoting the stuff-

Colin Quinn 41:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:30 ... which is a totally different animal.

Colin Quinn 41:32 And we wouldn't know where ... We would only come here. Where else would we go?

Joe Rogan 41:35 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 41:35 We don't know.

Joe Rogan 41:36 Well, doing it yourself, like, doing your own promotion or, like, letting people-

Colin Quinn 41:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:39 ... you know, like, getting ...

Colin Quinn 41:41 But I ... There's ... So I interviewed this one guy, Mike Spillane from Hell's Kitchen, and, and they're a famous family over there. He's telling all the stories of the old ... But one of the stories, which you will like, was him and my friend Robert, who died, and his cousin, they were in a bar. It's like 1980s and midtown. So Hell's Kitchen is connected to theater and all the ... Madison Square Garden. So they're in a bar.... some guy starts with Mike's-He hits him. The guy's friend grabs him around his neck. It's Andre the Giant.

Joe Rogan 42:11 Oh my God.

Colin Quinn 42:11 They're in a fight with Andre (laughs) the Giant.

Joe Rogan 42:13 Oh my God.

Colin Quinn 42:14 And he picks him up and flings him, and it's like a whole famous story of them fighting, getting their ass kicked by Andre the Giant. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:20 Oh my God.

Colin Quinn 42:20 And then the cops come and grab them outside and ar- arrests them, and the cop walks in, finds out what happened, sees Andre, and just walks out and laughs and goes, "Let him go. Don't worry about it."

Joe Rogan 42:28 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 42:30 So, like, just finding different stories of different neighborhoods. That's my little thing-

Joe Rogan 42:34 Hm.

Colin Quinn 42:34 ... for, you know-

Joe Rogan 42:35 That was back in the day-

Colin Quinn 42:35 ... like, what I like doing.

Joe Rogan 42:36 ... before Instagram, when people weren't snitches.

Colin Quinn 42:38 Exa- exactly right.

Joe Rogan 42:39 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 42:39 So that's all... I'm just talking to these people and finding out all the great stories from-

Joe Rogan 42:42 If that happened today, Andre would be all over the news. People would be angry at him.

Colin Quinn 42:46 Oh my God, everybody would have an opinion on all of it.

Joe Rogan 42:49 Oh, yeah.

Colin Quinn 42:49 And when this guy was telling the story, I go, "So people must have been buying you drinks for months." He goes, "At Hell's Kitchen that time, two weeks and then there was some new story happening."

Joe Rogan 42:58 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 42:59 He goes, "That wasn't even the story of the month."

43:01 – 1:05:43

Old New York, Times Square’s transformation, and the ‘Deep Throat’ era of public porn

Joe Rogan 43:01 What a great name for a neighborhood.

Colin Quinn 43:03 Hell's Kitchen, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:04 What a great name.

Colin Quinn 43:05 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:05 I mean, you kinda have t- have to act crazy if you're there.

Colin Quinn 43:08 And they did. Yeah, they, they... I mean, it's-

Joe Rogan 43:10 If you're gonna move to Hell's Kitchen, that's a very specific mindset.

Colin Quinn 43:13 It... Well, now, of course, it's different, but it was the most... Just imagine a neighborhood in the middle of Times Square when Times Square was Taxi Driver.

Joe Rogan 43:21 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 43:22 So they had to deal with all of that. The theaters, so their... all the stagehands were there.

Joe Rogan 43:27 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 43:28 All the Teamsters were there. There... It was a combination of everything, all the music studio, Lincoln Center on one side, all these pl-... And the... in the middle is all these crazy Irish guys and Puerto Ricans.

Joe Rogan 43:38 Yeah. Just so... And so much music and so much stuff came out of that area.

Colin Quinn 43:43 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 43:45 It really is when you really think about it.

Colin Quinn 43:47 It... It's a really wild, wild... Eh, the center of the universe, they used to call it.

Joe Rogan 43:51 And for how long? Like, 20 years?

Colin Quinn 43:53 Uh, like 50, 60.

Joe Rogan 43:54 50, 60?

Colin Quinn 43:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:55 Really? It was that hot for that many years? When can-

Colin Quinn 43:59 Well, hot in what way? I mean, because Times Square-

Joe Rogan 44:01 Hot in, like, the interesting aspect of it, like-

Colin Quinn 44:03 The interesting aspect, I bet-

Joe Rogan 44:04 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 44:04 ... it was four- 40 to 50 years. I would say from 1950 to 2000, 2000.

Joe Rogan 44:10 What killed it? Giuliani?

Colin Quinn 44:12 No, it just became-

Joe Rogan 44:13 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 44:13 Well, it became Times Square. You're talking about Times Square?

Joe Rogan 44:16 Oh, Times Square became gentrified.

Colin Quinn 44:17 Giuliani, yeah, gentrified it, and, um, and people started to-

Joe Rogan 44:20 Corporatized is a better word, right?

Colin Quinn 44:21 ... feel safe, yeah. But-

Joe Rogan 44:23 It's like it became Applebee's.

Colin Quinn 44:24 But b-... It did. It w-... I- it's disappointing, but at the same time, it was Sodom and Gomorr-... It was very bad.

Joe Rogan 44:29 It was very bad when I first went there. When I... I was living in Boston, I came to New York for a karate tournament, ironically-

Colin Quinn 44:35 Nice.

Joe Rogan 44:35 ... in, like, uh, 82, 83, I think? So I was in high school, so probably '83.

Colin Quinn 44:41 Love it.

Joe Rogan 44:42 And I was like, "This is nuts." Like, "This place is fucking nuts."

Colin Quinn 44:45 It was s-... It was nuts.

Joe Rogan 44:47 It was nuts. It was, like, all peep shows and pimps and hookers-

Colin Quinn 44:50 Yes.

Joe Rogan 44:51 ... and, and just... It looked black and white, like, like, the s-... like, even-

Colin Quinn 44:54 Yes.

Joe Rogan 44:55 ... those, like, In Color?

Colin Quinn 44:56 Yes.

Joe Rogan 44:56 Like, everything looked black and white. It looked dirty and seedy and there was just junkies on the street.

Colin Quinn 45:03 Yep.

Joe Rogan 45:03 And people with, like, long coats and people yelling at people, and you're like-

Colin Quinn 45:07 Yep.

Joe Rogan 45:07 ... "Yo, this place is nuts." Times Square was a place that everybody avoided.

Colin Quinn 45:11 That's right.

Joe Rogan 45:12 Somehow or another, Times Square became a tourist trap.

Colin Quinn 45:15 Well, because of Giuliani. Giuliani cleaned up the peep show. There was a law, I guess, where you couldn't have... You had to have, like, 30% legitimate in your peep show.

Joe Rogan 45:24 Hmm.

Colin Quinn 45:24 There was some law that happened where they got rid of all the peep shows.

Joe Rogan 45:26 30% legitimate? What does that mean?

Colin Quinn 45:28 Well, no. 30%, like, of a regular store. Like, you couldn't just have all porn.

Joe Rogan 45:33 Oh. (laughs)

Colin Quinn 45:33 Some obscure law. I don't know what it was.

Joe Rogan 45:34 Yeah, sell, sell Joe DeRosa sandwiches.

Colin Quinn 45:36 But that's basically what they did do. They had to have a legitimate thing and then the porn in the back or something like that.

Joe Rogan 45:41 Oh, God.

Colin Quinn 45:42 And that was in the mid-'90s, and then it got cleaned.

Joe Rogan 45:44 Well, they used to have the triple X movie theaters.

Colin Quinn 45:47 That's right.

Joe Rogan 45:48 Where... Do you know? You wanna talk about the lowest class of human being that you could possibly encounter in public?

Colin Quinn 45:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:53 Guys going to jerk off in a room with other guys jerking off, watching a movie.

Colin Quinn 45:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:59 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 46:00 Of course.

Joe Rogan 46:01 Just the most degenerate humans available.

Colin Quinn 46:04 Yes.

Joe Rogan 46:04 And this was in Times Square, too.

Colin Quinn 46:06 Well, it was all over the place.

Joe Rogan 46:08 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 46:08 No, no, the whole country had those.

Joe Rogan 46:10 Oh, yeah.

Colin Quinn 46:10 Every city had... Times Square just had 50 of them.

Joe Rogan 46:13 Well, the craziest story-

Colin Quinn 46:14 Everybody else had one.

Joe Rogan 46:15 ... is... Well, the crazy story is Deep Throat.

Colin Quinn 46:17 Yes.

Joe Rogan 46:17 Because Deep Throat, they were trying to turn it into... So the, the country was so naive back then.

Colin Quinn 46:21 Yep.

Joe Rogan 46:22 And porn, you didn't have VCRs, so you didn't... You d-... The idea of a porn addiction-

Colin Quinn 46:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:28 ... seemed ridiculous to people.

Colin Quinn 46:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:30 So what they did with Deep Throat is they made a cinematic movie that was a porn film, and all these stars went to go see it. Like, Johnny Carson was there. In line, they were interviewing them.

Colin Quinn 46:41 Yes.

Joe Rogan 46:41 But they're going to see a porn film.

Colin Quinn 46:43 Yeah. Yeah, and-

Joe Rogan 46:44 And that's only like 1970 something.

Colin Quinn 46:46 '72 or something like that. And couples would go all over the country and go to these sleazy theaters and watch Deep Throat.

Joe Rogan 46:55 Wild.

Colin Quinn 46:56 Is that-

Joe Rogan 46:56 They weren't even sleazy theaters. These were regular theaters-

Colin Quinn 46:59 Right.

Joe Rogan 47:00 ... that showed Deep Throat.

Colin Quinn 47:01 Yeah. Isn't that crazy? And-

Joe Rogan 47:02 Cra-... People are so... It's... That's like... That's so interesting, like if you think about how much porn... Like right now, porn is what percentage of the internet, Jamie? Is it 30-something percent?

Guest 47:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:13 It's like 30-something percent of all internet traffic, all of it.

Colin Quinn 47:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:17 All of the world is porn.

Colin Quinn 47:18 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 47:19 It didn't even exist before Deep Throat.

Colin Quinn 47:22 No.

Joe Rogan 47:22 Like, you had stag films-

Colin Quinn 47:23 They had stag films.

Joe Rogan 47:24 ... that you would hear about.

Colin Quinn 47:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:25 Yeah, my brother-in-law g-... Well, he- he was getting married-

Colin Quinn 47:27 Yes.

Joe Rogan 47:28 ... and we went to this, to stag party and they showed a movie.

Colin Quinn 47:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:31 This, like, grainy movie of this, like, sad heroin addict fucking these guys. Like, ugh.

Colin Quinn 47:36 That's right. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:37 Whoa. That was gross.

Colin Quinn 47:39 Yeah, the mafia.

Joe Rogan 47:40 Whoever thought that would be on your phone?

Colin Quinn 47:41 The mafia. The... I know. Exactly. But, but it's so funny 'cause I remember Deep Throat was the big breakthrough. First it was The Devil and Miss Jones. I was like 11 or 12, and I remember we'd laugh about it but we didn't know what we were laughing at.

Joe Rogan 47:54 Hmm.

Colin Quinn 47:54 And then next thing you know, we're like 19... 18, 19, we're going up to Times Square that point, and, um, (laughs) you know, we were right there. You just take the train, you're right there. And, um... But it was so psychotic.... that, and I actually knew, I knew a girl that ended up going into, like, working in those Times Square booths. And I'm sure a lot of people did, but it was really crazy to me that she was doing that, you know?

Joe Rogan 48:16 Wow. That is crazy. That's a commitment.

Colin Quinn 48:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:19 Hmm. That's a-

Colin Quinn 48:20 I mean, those t- booths, and guys just-

Joe Rogan 48:22 ... walking outta that lifestyle, oof.

Narrator 48:24 There was a judge, a judge in New York made it a $3 million fine for showing Deep Throat in a theater.

Joe Rogan 48:29 Wow.

Narrator 48:29 And it still exists. It's never been overturned, apparently.

Joe Rogan 48:32 Wow.

Narrator 48:33 Whenever this article was written. Well, this is in '93, but...

Joe Rogan 48:36 Wow. "Movies and television have completely changed our outlook on the human form." So, he was 71, um, at the time when he was talking about this, and, uh, so this is on the eve of his retirement in '91. So he's probably in his 50s when that happened. So he'd grown his whole life, been a grown adult, and never had any ra- interaction with porn. And then he sees people going to see it in a theater. He's probably like, "What the fuck is going on?"

Colin Quinn 49:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:04 Like, "This is crazy." Like, "You guys are watching people suck dicks with your friends."

Colin Quinn 49:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:08 Like, "This is weird."

Colin Quinn 49:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:10 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 49:11 It was totally legitimate for a couple of years.

Joe Rogan 49:13 Yeah?

Colin Quinn 49:13 I don't know when it turned, but it, I remember when I went to, when I went to college, they showed Deep Throat or one of these, Debbie Dubs Dallas, one of these porn movies in, like, the student union.

Joe Rogan 49:23 What?

Colin Quinn 49:23 And guys and girls all went to see it.

Joe Rogan 49:25 No way.

Colin Quinn 49:26 Yeah, it was totally... You know what I mean? And there were a couple of-

Joe Rogan 49:29 Isn't that crazy?

Colin Quinn 49:30 And there were a couple of girls that were like, "This is anti-women." And we're like, "Oh, relax. Why do you making a big deal?"

Joe Rogan 49:34 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 49:34 Like, we aren't like, oh, we're crazy.

Joe Rogan 49:37 Isn't that crazy?

Colin Quinn 49:38 It's crazy. And people would just go, they had like... They showed it, like, a whole week. I'll tell you another one.

Joe Rogan 49:43 What? A week?

Colin Quinn 49:45 Yeah, like, every night, 'cause so many people wanted to go see it.

Joe Rogan 49:48 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 49:48 I'll tell you another one. One of the guest speakers-

Joe Rogan 49:50 Ugh.

Colin Quinn 49:51 Talk about college gigs, Harry Reems was one of the guest speakers. He was like-

Joe Rogan 49:56 The porn star?

Colin Quinn 49:57 Porn star. Big-

Joe Rogan 49:58 Famous, like, 1980s porn star?

Colin Quinn 50:00 Mustache... '70s, yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:01 '70s?

Colin Quinn 50:01 He had a, he had the big mustache, '70s mustache.

Joe Rogan 50:04 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 50:04 And-

Joe Rogan 50:04 Didn't he grow on to be, like, a giant real estate guy?

Colin Quinn 50:06 Maybe, but-

Joe Rogan 50:07 Killed it in real estate.

Colin Quinn 50:07 I'd like to talk to him someday, because this girl I knew, I still remember her name but I'll leave it out, and she drove him. She goes, "Yeah, I drove him back to the train station." And I was like, "You don't need to drive him to the train station. You can walk there." She drove him, and I wanna know what happened. I want the full story.

Joe Rogan 50:25 She's not gonna give it to you.

Colin Quinn 50:26 She lied to me. She goes, "Nothing happened."

Joe Rogan 50:27 She, she got turned on. She got turned on by seeing that guy's dick.

Colin Quinn 50:32 She took me... She got turned on by his... And his hard, lucky speaker.

Joe Rogan 50:34 Also, it didn't, it wasn't, like, forbidden back then. This is so hard for people to imagine.

Colin Quinn 50:39 No.

Joe Rogan 50:39 'Cause, like, today, if you're watching porn on your phone and someone catches you, you have to, uh, got deep shame.

Colin Quinn 50:45 Yes.

Joe Rogan 50:46 Oh, you caught me watching porn.

Colin Quinn 50:47 Right.

Joe Rogan 50:48 Porn is a thing that people are ashamed that they consume. But back then, that was not the case. It was innocent, in the weirdest sense-

Colin Quinn 50:56 Yes, it was.

Joe Rogan 50:56 ... where people just didn't get it. They didn't get it.

Colin Quinn 50:59 No.

Joe Rogan 51:00 Like, when I was a kid, VCRs were invented. And one of the first things when they invented VCRs is they start making dirty movies and putting 'em on VCRs.

Colin Quinn 51:08 That's right.

Joe Rogan 51:08 And the porn industry just explodes.

Colin Quinn 51:10 That's right.

Joe Rogan 51:11 It's all from people watching at home. And you'd have to go through these fucking saloon doors, remember? Or you'd push the beads aside.

Colin Quinn 51:17 Yes.

Joe Rogan 51:18 There was always something you had to do.

Colin Quinn 51:19 Yes.

Joe Rogan 51:19 You couldn't just go to the porn section. You gotta let everybody know, "Hey, you fucking pervert." Make some noise, rattle those beads.

Colin Quinn 51:27 That's right.

Joe Rogan 51:27 And then you'd walk in there and no one was looking at anybody. Everybody was like looking at the ground.

Colin Quinn 51:30 That's right.

Joe Rogan 51:31 Everyone's embarrassed that they're in there with other people, maybe your neighbors.

Colin Quinn 51:34 That's right.

Joe Rogan 51:35 See Bob's over there, looking at the fucking hardcore section.

Colin Quinn 51:38 Yes.

Joe Rogan 51:39 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 51:39 Right. That's what it was. People were like, "I'll be in the porn, but that section is for perverts."

Joe Rogan 51:44 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Colin Quinn 51:45 That was the thing.

Joe Rogan 51:47 Yeah, and it became a thing where people weren't embarrassed by it. It was weird. And then slowly over time, it became embarrassing. I think when it became a- an addiction thing, I think clearly when the internet came around and the, people had instantaneous access to it.

Colin Quinn 52:05 Well, it's funny, because as more, as, as, as much as sex became more, like... Like, I remember in comedy, we all had bits on jerking off to porn when I, in the '80s.

Joe Rogan 52:15 Right. It was a new thing.

Colin Quinn 52:15 We all had bits about it. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:17 Which is hard to imagine for people today.

Colin Quinn 52:18 And everyone's like, "Oh, ha ha." Nobody gave a damn. I mean, is that weird?

Joe Rogan 52:21 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 52:21 We all just talked about, "Hey, jerking off. You ever see porn?" 'Cause it was new, like you said.

Joe Rogan 52:25 Right.

Colin Quinn 52:25 And then suddenly people stopped talking about that, because, uh, it was shameful. I don't know what they... I guess it was when it-

Joe Rogan 52:32 It's the addiction.

Colin Quinn 52:33 Yeah, I guess so.

Joe Rogan 52:33 Y- when you're, when you're ashamed of something, you shouldn't be doing that something, almost always.

Colin Quinn 52:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 52:38 Once you have to lie about the thing you're, you-

Colin Quinn 52:40 Right.

Joe Rogan 52:40 You know. Like, I, I had a friend, and he was always trying to lose weight. And, uh, one time we said, "Hey, uh, meet us at this bar." It was Ralphie May, let's just say it.

Colin Quinn 52:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:49 'Cause he's not with us anymore. I love Ralphie.

Colin Quinn 52:51 I know. Great guy.

Joe Rogan 52:52 He was awesome.

Colin Quinn 52:53 Great, great guy.

Joe Rogan 52:53 And then Ralphie was like, it was like an hour and a half later, like, "Where the fuck is Ralphie? Like, he hasn't, w- when's he coming here?" And then finally he pulls up, and the back of his car was just filled with fast food stuff.

Colin Quinn 53:05 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:07 And he had, like, some story about why he couldn't make it. He went to a drive through. He had to.

Colin Quinn 53:12 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:12 He went through a drive through and he bought bags of food, and he just stuffed himself.

Colin Quinn 53:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:16 And he probably felt shitty about it and didn't wanna talk about it.

Colin Quinn 53:19 Sure.

Joe Rogan 53:20 That's addiction. That's addiction.

Colin Quinn 53:22 Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 53:22 It's the same thing, if you're watching porn on your phone all the time-

Colin Quinn 53:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:25 ... if you're like, "Do you watch porn on your phone?" You're like, "No, I don't watch that."

Colin Quinn 53:28 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:28 I think it's 'cause you're addicted.

Colin Quinn 53:29 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:29 You're ashamed.

Colin Quinn 53:30 Sure.

Joe Rogan 53:30 You're ashamed.

Colin Quinn 53:31 But like you said, 30% is crazy.

Joe Rogan 53:34 Crazy. Is it, is that what the number is? Do we find out what the amount of traffic-

Narrator 53:37 I think we're right about 30%. I'm looking too, like the golden age of porn ended in '84, it says, which is-

Joe Rogan 53:41 The golden age. (laughs)

Narrator 53:42 That's what, that's what this thing calls it.

Colin Quinn 53:42 And I'll tell you, why age?

Joe Rogan 53:44 What the...

Narrator 53:44 Well, this, all, VCRs also, so it stopped being... You didn't have to go to the movie theater to see it. You could s- watch it at home whenever you wanted.

Colin Quinn 53:50 Well, that was a great, that was a, that... Oh, '84 is when the VCR came out?

Narrator 53:53 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 53:54 Wow.

Narrator 53:54 Around then, around then. That's like the same time period.

Joe Rogan 53:56 Yeah, so that makes sense, 'cause that was, I was in high school. That makes sense.

Colin Quinn 53:58 But you met... There was a great scene in Boogie Nights when Burt Reynolds is so disgusted that he has to do, like, amateur porn. Remember? Like, he used to be a filmmaker.

Joe Rogan 54:09 Oh, right.

Colin Quinn 54:09 And then suddenly they're in the limo and he's going, "Okay, do that." And then they... Remember he was, like, so horrified by it all.

Joe Rogan 54:16 ... I forgot. I forgot that movie. That was a great movie.

Colin Quinn 54:19 Great movie. And, uh, they said Burt Reynolds, you know, the director and all these people said Burt Reynolds was so horrible. He was so brilliant in it. He didn't want to be in it from day one. He hated everything about it.

Joe Rogan 54:32 Really?

Colin Quinn 54:32 And to his dying day, he hated it. He wanted, he want- he want- he fired his agent. He hated it. And he was so brilliant in it.

Joe Rogan 54:39 Well, Burt Reynolds, I'm a huge Burt Reynolds fan.

Colin Quinn 54:42 No, the greatest.

Joe Rogan 54:42 I love that guy. He was so fun. He made me believe that, like, a handsome man could be funny.

Colin Quinn 54:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:48 I never thought handsome people were funny. Like, the handsome guy was never cool. The handsome guy was, like, cool, but silent.

Colin Quinn 54:54 That's right.

Joe Rogan 54:54 Like, maybe wins a street fight.

Colin Quinn 54:56 So rude.

Joe Rogan 54:56 Burt Reynolds is, like, always smiling. It's like, I wanna hang out with that guy.

Colin Quinn 54:59 He-

Joe Rogan 55:00 He was a party.

Colin Quinn 55:01 He'd go on the Tonight Show-

Joe Rogan 55:02 He had a mustache.

Colin Quinn 55:02 ... with that big laugh.

Joe Rogan 55:03 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 55:04 Remember he had that giant laugh?

Joe Rogan 55:05 He was the first guy that I ever really saw that was, like, a really handsome man that was hilarious.

Colin Quinn 55:10 And he was best friends with Dom DeLuise.

Joe Rogan 55:12 And just relaxed. Yes.

Colin Quinn 55:13 And they'd be on-

Joe Rogan 55:14 He was incredible.

Colin Quinn 55:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:15 Or how about when he did Jackie Gleason? Jackie Gleason and him with Smokey and the Bandit? What a combination. Jackie Gleason and Burt Reynolds-

Colin Quinn 55:24 Wait, the- Jackie Gleason in that movie... And I'll tell you who else, 'cause I remember when I saw Caddyshack for the first time, and I was, like, a young kid, and I'm like, "Oh, Caddyshack, my heroes are in it. Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, all these cool guys, even Rodney." And I go, "And then they got this guy from a sitcom, Ted Knight, and then he steals the movie." And the same thing happened with Jackie Gleason in Smokey and the Bandit.

Joe Rogan 55:45 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 55:45 These guys stole... They were so good. It's unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 55:49 Jackie Gleason was the fucking man.

Colin Quinn 55:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:51 Jackie Gleason was the man.

Colin Quinn 55:53 It was unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 55:53 Also, he did serious acting too. He's in The Hustler.

Colin Quinn 55:56 Oh, yeah. He was amazing.

Joe Rogan 55:57 He was great in The Hustler.

Colin Quinn 55:57 Did you ever hear? They said, uh, some reviewer, some famous, back when reviewers were famous, goes, "I just..." It was Laurence Olivier and him, did a movie together. He goes, "I just watched a movie with the greatest living actor and Laurence Olivier."

Joe Rogan 56:10 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 56:11 Jackie Gleason was so good.

Joe Rogan 56:13 Uh, he was awesome. Best pool player to ever be a movie star, by far.

Colin Quinn 56:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:18 He was, like, a real good pool player.

Colin Quinn 56:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:19 Like, a professional level pool player.

Colin Quinn 56:22 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:22 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 56:23 You could see even the way he played.

Joe Rogan 56:24 Yeah. In The Hustler, he was the, he was making his own shots. When Paul Newman would make his shots, you'd be like, "Ugh."

Colin Quinn 56:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:29 "This is not real. This is nonsense." But when Jackie Gleason did, there's a smooth- a fluidity to the way he moves around.

Colin Quinn 56:35 But now, why would you remake The Hustler? Look, we all love Martin Scorsese.

Joe Rogan 56:39 No one's remade it.

Colin Quinn 56:40 What do you mean? He did do-

Joe Rogan 56:40 No, that was The Color of Money.

Colin Quinn 56:41 Color of Money.

Joe Rogan 56:41 No, Color of Money was a separate book.

Colin Quinn 56:43 Well, it was a sequel, but even so.

Joe Rogan 56:44 But it's the same w- it was the same author.

Colin Quinn 56:46 It left a bad taste in my mouth.

Joe Rogan 56:47 Really?

Colin Quinn 56:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:48 Oh, it was a great movie too. It's a great movie too. Very accurate too.

Colin Quinn 56:52 He did the, uh, remember he did the, uh, flipping the pool cue?

Joe Rogan 56:55 Mm-hmm. That's a little nonsense. People don't do that.

Colin Quinn 56:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:58 Especially not with a balabushka. But-

Colin Quinn 57:00 That's, yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:00 ... what he was doing in the movie, like, portraying how people hustle and move around, that was all real. And it's by the same guy who also wrote, uh, The Queen's Gambit. Did you ever see that show on Netflix?

Colin Quinn 57:10 Yes. Great show.

Joe Rogan 57:11 Amazing show. Amazing show about that girl who's a, a wizard chess player.

Colin Quinn 57:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:15 Yeah. Well, that's the same guy. Wa- Walter Tevis, right? (clears throat) Is that his name? Yeah, he wrote The Hustler.

Colin Quinn 57:21 How, like, compelling is her face-

Joe Rogan 57:25 Amazing.

Colin Quinn 57:25 ... and her energy?

Joe Rogan 57:26 Oh, yeah. You buy it all in.

Colin Quinn 57:28 Whatever, you're just buying it.

Joe Rogan 57:29 Yeah, yeah. You buy all of it. Yeah. You're really there with her. She was awesome. She's really good.

Colin Quinn 57:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:35 Uh, what is her name? Anna Joy... What is her name?

Colin Quinn 57:38 I'll never know. Anna Taylor-Joy. But the whole, uh, uh-

Joe Rogan 57:40 Anna Taylor-Joy.

Colin Quinn 57:41 I like the fact that-

Joe Rogan 57:42 Beautiful girl.

Colin Quinn 57:42 ... at least he bothered... That's one thing about Tom Cruise. He doesn't play games. He's in The Color of Money, he learns to do, like, nunchucks. By the way, nunchucks were big. When I was a kid-

Joe Rogan 57:51 Oh, yeah.

Colin Quinn 57:51 ... nunchucks just came out-

Joe Rogan 57:52 Oh, yeah.

Colin Quinn 57:53 ... when I was a kid, and people would have nunchucks. Everybody walking around with a black eye-

Joe Rogan 57:56 (laughs)

Colin Quinn 57:57 ... because nobody knew how to use them. You just saw it in a movie. There was no-

Joe Rogan 57:59 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 57:59 ... YouTube tutorials.

Joe Rogan 58:01 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 58:01 And even the s- uh, the teachers, the martial arts teachers didn't know what they were.

Joe Rogan 58:04 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 58:05 So the guys walking around, everybody had a black eye for, like, a long time.

Joe Rogan 58:07 Yeah, I banged myself in the back of the head multiple times.

Colin Quinn 58:09 Yeah, you did. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:10 Back of my head, crack. Yeah.

Colin Quinn 58:12 Now, when you did this karate tournament in the '80s in New York-

Joe Rogan 58:15 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 58:15 ... is it, are you guys striking each other?

Joe Rogan 58:18 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 58:18 Wow. And it's full contact, like they call it full contact?

Joe Rogan 58:20 Yeah. Well, the karate tournament that I went to in New York was wh- was called a point tournament, and point tournaments-

Colin Quinn 58:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 58:25 ... were different than TaeKwonDo tournaments in that, um, there wasn't continuous action. You'd hit the person, and then they would stop and call point. So it's almost like this really high level game of tag.

Colin Quinn 58:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 58:35 Which wasn't really the thing that I did. I did TaeKwonDo tournaments primarily, which were, like, continuous action, and you would win by knockout a lot of times. And so-

Colin Quinn 58:44 Wow.

Joe Rogan 58:44 ... you're basically just trying to kick this other dude in the face or in the chest as hard as possible and, and stop-

Colin Quinn 58:50 Great.

Joe Rogan 58:50 ... his body from working right. That's, that was my objective.

Colin Quinn 58:53 It was like the kumite.

Joe Rogan 58:54 Yeah, it was like that a little bit.

Colin Quinn 58:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:56 But in TaeKwonDo tournaments, you couldn't punch to the face. You could only kick to the face and kick to the body. And then I would transition from that into kickboxing. But it was a- it was like, when I went to New York City, we were trying to do anything. We would try anything. We would, there wasn't, wasn't that many tournaments. So if there was no TaeKwonDo tournaments, we'd enter into karate tournaments. We'd go in-

Colin Quinn 59:16 That's right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:17 I fought, like, probably, I probably fought 100 times.

Colin Quinn 59:22 Wow.

Joe Rogan 59:22 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 59:24 And was there a t-

Joe Rogan 59:24 If I imagine, if I counted all the tournaments, 'cause oftentimes you'd fight three or four times in a day.

Colin Quinn 59:29 No kidding.

Joe Rogan 59:30 Yeah, in my, my last kickboxing fight was the third fight of the day. I had three fights in one day. I won the first two fights, and I lost the last one.

Colin Quinn 59:37 Wow.

Joe Rogan 59:38 In a day. (laughs)

Colin Quinn 59:39 That's crazy. Can you imagine?

Joe Rogan 59:40 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 59:40 It's good to be a kid, huh?

Joe Rogan 59:41 It was good to be stupid. (laughs)

Colin Quinn 59:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:44 If I had a kid today, I'd say, "Hey, you're not fighting again. You just get hit in the head over-"

Colin Quinn 59:49 And did you go-

Joe Rogan 59:49 "... two fucking rounds."

Colin Quinn 59:50 And did you come home covered in bruises all the time and stuff too?

Joe Rogan 59:52 No.

Colin Quinn 59:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:53 Well, I always came home from training in bruises.

Colin Quinn 59:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:55 And from fighting, yeah, you get fucked up.

Colin Quinn 59:57 That's great.

Joe Rogan 59:57 You get a black eye. I always had black eyes. I broke my nose. I don't know. Uh, probably 20 times.

Colin Quinn 1:00:04 Wow. That's wild.

Joe Rogan 1:00:04 I had to get it fixed.

Colin Quinn 1:00:05 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:00:06 I had to get the inside of it all cleaned up, and it all calcified like a wrestler's ear.

Colin Quinn 1:00:10 ... wow.

Joe Rogan 1:00:11 You know how wrestlers get cal- the calcium?

Colin Quinn 1:00:12 Yeah, of course.

Joe Rogan 1:00:13 You get smashed in the nose enough, what happens is the inside of your nose, all that tissue, swells up and bleeds, and then it gets broken and your septum gets twisted and blocks off-

Colin Quinn 1:00:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:23 ... and then you get, like, calcium deposits inside your nose.

Colin Quinn 1:00:26 Sure.

Joe Rogan 1:00:27 Just like you get in your ears.

Colin Quinn 1:00:28 Like a cave.

Joe Rogan 1:00:29 Like a little, like rocks.

Colin Quinn 1:00:30 Stalagtites.

Joe Rogan 1:00:30 Yeah. Whoa, it was horrible. I couldn't breathe at all.

Colin Quinn 1:00:33 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:00:33 I had a very nasal voice for a long time until I got it fixed. I, I was like 40 when I got it fixed.

Colin Quinn 1:00:39 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:00:40 Because I kept breaking it.

Colin Quinn 1:00:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:41 'Cause I was like, "I'm just gonna keep breaking it." It's like, w- what am I gonna do? Like, I br- I broke it, like, three times while I was on NewsRadio.

Colin Quinn 1:00:47 You did?

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 Yeah.

Colin Quinn 1:00:48 Fighting?

Joe Rogan 1:00:49 I was always breaking it. S- sparring or d- just rolling.

Colin Quinn 1:00:52 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:00:52 You accidentally get a knee to your face.

Colin Quinn 1:00:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:54 And then your nose is bleeding.

Colin Quinn 1:00:55 Nice.

Joe Rogan 1:00:55 And you're like, "Well, I broke it again."

Colin Quinn 1:00:57 And were you working out with, like, Benny "The Jet" and those guys in the valley at that time?

Joe Rogan 1:00:59 I actually started at the Jet Center when I first moved to Hollywood. That was the first place I went to.

Colin Quinn 1:01:03 That's great.

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 It was like, there's two places I wanted to go to when I went to Hollywood. I wanted to go to The Comedy Store and I wanted to go to the Jet Center in Van Nuys.

Colin Quinn 1:01:10 (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 1:01:10 I found out about it, I was like, "It's the Jet Center. I can't believe this is real."

Colin Quinn 1:01:13 Love it.

Joe Rogan 1:01:13 And, uh, when I was there, uh, Blinky Rodriguez, who was, uh, Benny's brother-in-law, amazing fighter too, like a great, great kickboxer. He had lost, I believe, a family member to gang violence. I don't want to say exactly who it was 'cause I'm not sure if I remember, but I wanna say a son, to gang violence. And then if it, if it's not that-

Colin Quinn 1:01:34 Hm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:34 ... I apologize. And then so he offered free classes to gang members, so he wanted to teach these gang members, like, discipline.

Colin Quinn 1:01:44 Resolve, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:44 Give them a sense of, like, community and, and-

Colin Quinn 1:01:47 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:01:47 ... and give them structure.

Colin Quinn 1:01:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:49 Give them something they could... So I was taking kickboxing classes with gangbangers.

Colin Quinn 1:01:54 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 Which I had moved from New York, and I came to LA, I didn't have any friends, and here I am in my Volkswagen Corrado pulling up to, uh, the Jet Center in Van Nuys and I'm taking kickboxing classes with gangbangers.

Colin Quinn 1:02:07 (laughs) That's great.

Joe Rogan 1:02:08 Like, this guy had this fucking tattoo on his back, this homemade tattoo of the name of his gang. It was like Platos, and then underneath it, it said "fuck the rest". I was like, "Oh boy."

Colin Quinn 1:02:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:18 This is (laughs) , you understand, this is 1994.

Colin Quinn 1:02:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:21 This dude's back has his gang, and then "fuck the rest".

Colin Quinn 1:02:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:24 I was like, "Yo, what am I doing?" So I had to spar with these guys.

Colin Quinn 1:02:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 So I was sparring with these gangbangers, and you could, I, like, they didn't know what they were doing, like, a lot of them.

Colin Quinn 1:02:36 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:02:36 But you couldn't h- I wouldn't hurt them.

Colin Quinn 1:02:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:39 I'm like, "I'm not gonna hurt this guy." You know? I'm just-

Colin Quinn 1:02:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:42 ... gonna, like, touch him a little bit.

Colin Quinn 1:02:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:43 You know, I'm just gonna, like, just give him a foot-

Colin Quinn 1:02:46 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 1:02:46 Put a foot in his face. I'm not gonna hurt him.

Colin Quinn 1:02:49 No.

Joe Rogan 1:02:49 I do not wanna get shot in the parking lot.

Colin Quinn 1:02:51 No.

Joe Rogan 1:02:51 I do not wanna get stabbed. You cannot humiliate one of these guys.

Colin Quinn 1:02:54 No, no.

Joe Rogan 1:02:54 So you just move around, be defensive when they swing punches, just work on blocks.

Colin Quinn 1:02:58 That's right.

Joe Rogan 1:02:58 Work on moving, footwork.

Colin Quinn 1:03:00 That's great.

Joe Rogan 1:03:01 Touch him a little bit. But there's no, like, going after them.

Colin Quinn 1:03:04 That's great, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:04 It was scary. It was fucking scary. These guys were murderers.

Colin Quinn 1:03:07 Yeah, Van w- Van Nuys was a rough area back in the '90s.

Joe Rogan 1:03:10 Oh, it was super rough. It was-

Colin Quinn 1:03:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:11 ... super rough. And, um, but a lot of great kickboxers were there too.

Colin Quinn 1:03:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:16 It was also, like, Pete "Sugar Foot" Cunningham was there and, you know, Blinky was there teaching classes, which is, to me, it was like, as a kid-

Colin Quinn 1:03:23 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:03:23 ... who grew up watching him on TV, to be in their gym, I was like, "Holy shit."

Colin Quinn 1:03:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:28 "This is crazy."

Colin Quinn 1:03:29 That's great.

Joe Rogan 1:03:29 But then unfortunately, the earthquake fucked up the roof, and, uh, when it rained, when the rainy season came, the whole building got destroyed. The, the roof was all fucked up from the earthquake.

Colin Quinn 1:03:39 Oh, you were there for the earthquake and not-

Joe Rogan 1:03:40 I was there right after the earthquake, and then the rain came after that.

Colin Quinn 1:03:44 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:03:44 And their, their building was fucked. So eventually he opened up a place in North Hollywood, and I went there for a while, but it was just Benny.

Colin Quinn 1:03:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:50 And it was a smaller place.

Colin Quinn 1:03:52 I went to, uh, I was at, in LA during the earthquake, during that '94 earthquake.

Joe Rogan 1:03:56 Mm-hmm.

Colin Quinn 1:03:57 And I was staying in this, like, temporary housing place on, uh, on wha- it was across from Northridge, but it was in, on, like, in Westwood district. And I wake up and I go, "Oh my God, I'm dreaming that my bed is flying across this entire room."

Joe Rogan 1:04:14 Oh my God.

Colin Quinn 1:04:14 My bed flew across the room. And it was, it was scary, man.

Joe Rogan 1:04:18 Oh my God.

Colin Quinn 1:04:18 I mean, my bed was fine, but buildings were collapsed all around me. People were in the street at 5:00 AM s- in their underwear, the whole city.

Joe Rogan 1:04:25 Oh my God.

Colin Quinn 1:04:26 The whole neighborhood, I mean.

Joe Rogan 1:04:27 I was only in a small earthquake. I was in a 5.5, and I was in my apartment in North Hollywood, and it was like I was in a washing machine box or refrigerator box, where it just had no stability.

Colin Quinn 1:04:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:39 Like, the whol- I was like, "What?" I thought an earthquake would be like... Everything shaking. No.

Colin Quinn 1:04:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:45 Everything moved.

Colin Quinn 1:04:46 Everything moved.

Joe Rogan 1:04:47 It just moved side to side, and I remember thinking, "Oh, shit."

Colin Quinn 1:04:52 It's like having vertigo.

Joe Rogan 1:04:53 Uh, but it was, it was, I was just thinking, "This is a baby one? This is like a s- a five?"

Colin Quinn 1:04:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:58 "So a seven is how many times greater than this? Holy shit."

Colin Quinn 1:05:02 Yeah, it fucked up, uh, uh, Northridge, and Van Nuys got fucked.

Joe Rogan 1:05:06 That was-

Colin Quinn 1:05:06 More than any place.

Joe Rogan 1:05:07 W- another reason why I'm s- glad I got out of LA in time. I'm like, "It's coming."

Colin Quinn 1:05:11 Well-

Joe Rogan 1:05:11 If you guys think you got it bad now, all the shit in the streets and all the tents and-

Colin Quinn 1:05:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:16 Wait till a earthquake hits that mess.

Colin Quinn 1:05:20 Well, about two weeks ago, I was in New York, and I go, "Oh, what the hell was that?"

Joe Rogan 1:05:25 Oh, yeah.

Colin Quinn 1:05:26 I th- and it was an earthquake.

Joe Rogan 1:05:27 Yeah, earthquake in New York.

Colin Quinn 1:05:28 I thought that too, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:29 Which is crazy.

Colin Quinn 1:05:29 It was crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:05:30 That's so unusual.

Colin Quinn 1:05:31 Yeah, I never even heard, I never even heard about that.

Joe Rogan 1:05:33 So this earthquake in Van Nuys, it, I guess it fucked up the, the roof of that building, and it f- it condemned a lot of buildings.

Colin Quinn 1:05:40 It destroyed a lot, it destroyed that whole area.

Joe Rogan 1:05:42 It got- Yeah.

Colin Quinn 1:05:42 Northridge is

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