EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,008 words- 0:00 – 1:21
Dreaming up a late-night studio near the Comedy Mothership
- NANarrator
(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)
- JRJoe Rogan
Joe Rogan!
- DPDeric Poston
My brother.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's my man. What's happening?
- DPDeric Poston
Let's get it. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's go.
- DPDeric Poston
Joe Rogan.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, we've had a million conversations like this, uh, in the green room.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
We've already done like a thousand podcasts.
- DPDeric Poston
Th- This is my every night right here.
- JRJoe Rogan
We need a fucking studio in that club. You know? We need to put a podcast studio in that club. I've been thinking about it, but like, we don't have the space for it.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah, where would it go?
- JRJoe Rogan
It wouldn't go anywhere. There's no place. There's no ... We have ... We used ... It's like very efficient. We have all the space. I don't know. (dishes clanking)
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah, but you gotta put-
- JRJoe Rogan
I think what we need is a apartment. We need an apartment close, (plate clanks) so we can just go right over.
- DPDeric Poston
Go right over.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, go ... A apartment that's just set up as a studio. When you get in there it's just all studio.
- DPDeric Poston
That would be nice, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. 'Cause there's so many apartments that are available in that area, right?
- NANarrator
I just got one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, Jamie just got one.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- NANarrator
... get next door so I don't have a neighbor.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's not a bad idea.
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
How far away are you from my club?
- NANarrator
Two blocks.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh, let's go. Is the nextdoor neighbor open?
- NANarrator
I think they all are.
- 1:21 – 2:46
LA vs Austin vibes—downtown LA feels like a survival movie
- JRJoe Rogan
... see the city. I want as ... I was gonna do that in downtown LA.
- DPDeric Poston
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but then I went to downtown LA.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm like, "Oh my God." And I brought my family, and I brought my daughters when they were young, and I was like, "Oh my God, am I gonna have to kill somebody?" Like, this is c- It was crazy. And this is pre-pandemic, man.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is before the shit hit the fan. I'm like, people were just pissing all over the place.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It smelled terrible. There was a ... There's some really good donut place that's in downtown LA. So we were like, "Let's go get some donuts. Let's get crazy."
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"Let's just go find ..." So, uh, we would up going to the one in Pasadena, 'cause there's a ... Or Glendale? There's one, there's one somewhere else. There's one somewhere else that's also like that. And, uh, we wound up with ... Silverlake? Might be Silv- It was a lot of hippies.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Probably Silv- It was like the, uh, total opposite. I'm, "I'll take hippies all day."
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I'll take, like, you know, woke people with fucking green hair all day that are homeless.
- DPDeric Poston
All day over I Am Legend? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, full on I Am Legend.
- DPDeric Poston
I Am Legend?
- JRJoe Rogan
Full on I Am Legend, yeah. Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
To go down there and get a donut though is ... It's worth it. LA donuts are the best. It's not even fucking close.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- DPDeric Poston
I think so. Kind of like a New York bagel. There's something about certain breads, I feel like, in certain places that hit different.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, when Krispy Kreme's coming outta the do- right outta the oven, it is hard to fuck with anything else.
- DPDeric Poston
Nothing.
- JRJoe Rogan
L- Those glazed ones, the maple glazed, when they're coming right out.
- DPDeric Poston
Maple.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh ...
- DPDeric Poston
Oh, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
So good, so good.
- 2:46 – 4:28
Carnivore aftermath: donuts, bread, Hot Cheetos, and snack cravings
- DPDeric Poston
You fucked me up though. I haven't had bread, Joe ... I haven't really had bread, probably maybe twice since we did the carnivore.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good.
- DPDeric Poston
Maybe twice.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good.
- DPDeric Poston
You fucked it up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Every now and then it's okay. Every now and then it's okay. The real problem is when it becomes a part of your diet, when it's a normal part of your diet. When I eat a piece of pizza my body's like, "Yo, what are you doing? Like, relax. We're having a drink. Have a pizza, come on." And then I, I don't eat for a while.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Let it clear out of my system. Then I go back to eating clean. But if you have that as a normal part of your life, it's just like all these things compound, right?
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, you smoke too many blunts, that compounds. You, you know, eat too much bad food, that can ... Look at that, right out of the oven.
- DPDeric Poston
(gasps)
- JRJoe Rogan
Jamie, what are you doing?
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you post this?
- NANarrator
Yeah, a long time ago.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God.
- DPDeric Poston
Look at that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at that.
- NANarrator
Look at that. At the time of creation.
- JRJoe Rogan
That is just diabetes in food form.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It just makes me want to feel sick. And, like, I'll take that temporary mouth pleasure for hours of feeling like dog shit.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah, Joe. Oh, it feels so good. Yeah, I ... The bread thing ... Joe, this was the first time in my life I hadn't had Hot Cheetos every day.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Would you prefer Hot Cheetos over Takis? 'Cause I know a lot of people are very-
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah, love Takis. I'm a, I'm a, uh ... That's the Black in me I think, 'cause I'm a Hot Cheeto. Mexicans love the Takis.
- JRJoe Rogan
Cheetos Takis.
- DPDeric Poston
They love the Takis.
- 4:28 – 8:52
Fritos as a firestarter and Joe’s “wolf” appetite vs discipline
- JRJoe Rogan
That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. You shouldn't be eating that. You know Fritos, those little corn chips?
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
We used those to start a fire in Alaska.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
When we were camping.
- DPDeric Poston
Wait, what?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, one of the dudes that works for my friend Steve Rinella told us that they're very flammable. And I'm like, "Really?" And so we used that to start a fire. We were in, uh, Prince Edwards Island, which is, um ... Prince of Wales Island? Which one? Prince Edwards? Which one, which one's the one in Alaska? Prince Edwards.
- NANarrator
Prince Edwards Island.
- JRJoe Rogan
Prince of Wales, what is that? I don't even know if that's a real place. Prince Edwards, right?
- NANarrator
Prince Edward Island is a Canadian province.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. What's the one in Alaska?
- NANarrator
Might be right next to Alaska though. No, it's not. That's the, like, complete opposite side.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is the one that's in Alaska?
- NANarrator
What was the other one you said?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not Prince Edwards Island?
- NANarrator
No, that one's near Maine.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- NANarrator
That's what the map said.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fuck. I can't remember the island. Anyway, um, the island in Ala- well, s- g- Google, 'cause it's-
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... one of the most rainy places on Earth. B- Bryan Callen and I did a TV show from there, with, uh, with, with Meat Eater, but it rained for seven, eight days, whatever the fuck we were there for.
- DPDeric Poston
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
It rained every day.
- NANarrator
Prince of Wales Island.
- JRJoe Rogan
All day.
- NANarrator
What's a Prince of Wales?
- JRJoe Rogan
What's a ... Prince of Wales. Okay, it is Prince of Wales. It rained every day. And one day it didn't rain for, like, 10 hours, and we're like, "Dude, we're gonna start a fucking fire. We're gonna figure out how to start a fire." And so we got, like, sticks and shit, like, that's under everything else.
- DPDeric Poston
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
So everything got rained on. Oh, is there video of it?
- NANarrator
Not you guys, but-
- 8:52 – 12:34
Green room joy and celebrating killer comedy bits
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah, you can go, bro. We start ... That's my favorite Joe. When Joe starts-
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- DPDeric Poston
... drinking in the greenroom.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DPDeric Poston
When Joe starts drinking, nigga. Oh, you get going, baby.
- JRJoe Rogan
We start talking shit.
- DPDeric Poston
Oh, it's the best. You start dancing. Oh, bro, it's over.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, who has, who has more fun than us? Who has more fun than us?
- DPDeric Poston
Nobody, bro. Oh, come on.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, we're in there dancing. We're dancing, like, all the time.
- DPDeric Poston
(sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no self-consciousness.
- DPDeric Poston
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Everybody's just having a good time.
- DPDeric Poston
Oh, it's my favorite.
- JRJoe Rogan
God, it's the best place in the world.
- DPDeric Poston
Oh, the music's going.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
Oh, the tunes are going, and everybody's going up. It's just ... And you're coming-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
... in from a set, and like ... And then you're coming and everybody's already dancing and, and shitting on, you know, Brian for saying something crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs) And Tony's just roasting them. And you're dying and you're like, "This is the best night of my life, bro."
- JRJoe Rogan
I love when Brian comes offstage and he walks in the room and he goes, "Woo."
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause you know we just laid it down.
- DPDeric Poston
Oh, my God.
- JRJoe Rogan
Woo. Bro, when he was doing that WAP bit, when he was ... when he really tightened up that bit, when it was just a ... That bit was just assassination.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was a bit ... That bit was one of those bits where I would go out there and just sit and watch it. I watched it like ... Shit, I watched that bit 50 times.
- 12:34 – 14:10
Moving to Austin during COVID—why comics bet against LA
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah, bro. Also, we feel so like, we were here... The, the just... That we were here, we all came-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
... before it opened. We were here to feel that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, you were an early adopter.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs) Yo, Joe. I came... I came out-
- JRJoe Rogan
Derek came out here when I wasn't even sure.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I was like, "Damn, Derek just moved here?"
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Now, I... There was a lot... I felt like one thing though about this, it's like that's one of the reasons why I felt like I had to do this, 'cause I knew the, all you guys had come out. You guys were coming out here when we were at Vulcan during the lockdown.
- DPDeric Poston
Yep. Thank God for my wife, bro. That was her, her call, dawg. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Really? That's amazing.
- DPDeric Poston
That was my wife's call. She was look... She saw you guys there. It hadn't even crossed my mind yet. Joe... I was still in pandemic mind of like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DPDeric Poston
... "We're just here."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
"This is what it is."
- JRJoe Rogan
That's it.
- DPDeric Poston
And then she said it, she was like, "We're going to Austin, Texas." And I was like, "What?" She's like, "J-... They're up. Everybody's getting up." And I'm like, "Oh." And it right in my... I was like, "What the fuck am I doing?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
"I'm going to Austin, Texas." And moved March 2021.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was crazy because so many people were mad at us. They were mad at us for doing shows. I was like, "Are you out of your fucking mind? Are you gonna just not do shows anymore? You're gonna not talk to people?" Like, what are we doing? Like, how long does this go on? How m... How long does this go on? And in LA, the answer was a year and a half.
- DPDeric Poston
Year and a half, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Out here it was six weeks.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) They started just shooting guns in the air. "Shut the fuck up." (laughs)
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Peop... I saw old people with no masks on out here early on.
- DPDeric Poston
Oh, you could feel it.
- JRJoe Rogan
They were like, "Shut the fuck up."
- 14:10 – 21:56
LA crime surge and pandemic tribalism—how fear reshaped behavior
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I knew it. I felt something. I, I didn't know if they were gonna lock it down for a year, but I knew LA was never gonna be the same, because there was a new attitude about law enforcement that happened after George Floyd.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm like, "Oh, this place is in trouble." 'Cause r... when they had those cop cars lit up on fire on the...
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Was it on the 110? Is that what it was?
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah, and they were like on fire and like c- cinder blocks and shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Spray-painted, on fire, smashed everything. They were doing smash-and-grabs everywhere and they were just letting them do it. Like in Beverly Hills-
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... all they were doing was not letting people shop when it was dark out.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That was it. So during the day or at nighttime, everybody just smash-and-grabbed. It was like, there's... The smash-and-grabs on Beverly Hills were insane.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was everywhere.
- DPDeric Poston
That shit was crazy, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Crazy. Crazy. It was also people waiting for people after they were shopping, they were just stealing from them after they would go shopping at the mall in Beverly Hills.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like nice places in Beverly Hills, nice stores.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah. West Hollywood people were getting robbed, bro. It was crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro.
- DPDeric Poston
I was there. I saw it. There's people getting robbed.
- JRJoe Rogan
I saw it. There was a car full of dudes that was parked in front of this gated community and they had no license plate on their car and I was driving in and I remember looking at these dudes and them looking at me. I'm like, "These are not dudes that are up to anything good."
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they have a car with no license plate on and they're outside of this gated community, and they could've been just waiting for the, the thing to go up so they could sneak in behind it, you know?
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know what they were doing, but I remember thinking like, "This is going to escalate. You're gonna get more of this." Then I saw a bu... I saw a w... I was passing by this clothing store and I saw these dudes smash the window and run inside. Crazy. In Woodland Hills. In Woodland Hills, it's like the sleepiest, most boring-ass fucking neighborhood.
- DPDeric Poston
That's the... Yeah, that's like where the, the rich... It, it's supposed-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
... to be the nicest.
- 21:56 – 26:58
Vaccines, injuries, and media narrative shifts
- JRJoe Rogan
You know when it gets... When it gets 'em is when they get vaccine injured. Chris Cuomo just came out and said he's got a vaccine injury. That guy was pushing that shit on TV forever, and he said he got it (coughs) with his first dose and then he got it again with his second dose. Ladies and gentlemen, I apologize for that cough.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I could have reached for that button, I got lazy.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I could have just reached for that button. I could have just pressed that button.
- DPDeric Poston
Wait, what's a vaccine injury?
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs) Something happens when you get the COVID shot, you know? And it's not just the COVID shot. There, there's... People have adverse reactions to all kinds of medications, right? But particularly to this one, this is one... The, the first time they ever l- rolled something out to billions of people worldwide, and some people had terrible reactions. And one of 'em apparently was Chris Cuomo.
- DPDeric Poston
Interesting.
- JRJoe Rogan
(smacks lips) Yeah, people get, uh, heart palpitations, bad blood work, they get clots. Like there's, there's a bunch of different confirmed side effects that happen. Myocarditis is some. Also, there's a thing about... You're, you're supposed to... When you inject them, you're supposed to aspirate, which means when you inject it into the muscle, 'cause it's intramuscular, you're supposed to pull back the syringe to make sure that you're not hitting a blood vessel, and they never do that. Even on the president. If you watch the president get vaccinated on TV... And I don't think he got vaccinated on TV.
- DPDeric Poston
What do you mean, Joe? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think they took that chance. I think there was salt water in that thing.
- DPDeric Poston
Joe, don't say that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I thi- I don't think they-
- DPDeric Poston
I took that shit for real. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I'm not s- I'm just saying on TV. I'm sure they probably vaccinated him.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you have a side effect?
- DPDeric Poston
Oh, I was sick as a dog.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- DPDeric Poston
Wife was fine. I was a... I was fucked up.
- JRJoe Rogan
What did it do to you?
- DPDeric Poston
Just, it felt like I got into a car wreck or something. I was just completely sore, really sick. I remember being crazy tired.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- DPDeric Poston
Just tired.
- JRJoe Rogan
For how long?
- DPDeric Poston
Like two days.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm, that's not bad.
- DPDeric Poston
And then it bounced right back, you know. But it, but it felt like... Where it was like, "Oh man, Derek, you're sick," like...
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the-
- DPDeric Poston
... "Holy shit."
- 26:58 – 47:47
Austin comedy as a destination: Kill Tony, touring stars, and meritocracy
- DPDeric Poston
Shows are nowhere near as hot. I've been ar- there's no... They are not as close to as hot as these shows in Austin, Texas.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- DPDeric Poston
Anywhere you go, Joe, you can... In a three-block span, I can get up six times.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
Sold out shows, all hot. Great lineups. Um, i- m- y- that i- that iron sharpens iron feeling-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my God.
- DPDeric Poston
... of watching, when I got to watch when I was at the store parking cars and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
... door guy-ing, and I got to see that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
So that's how I know that, oh, this is happening here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. We set up a destination. It's a destination. For comics, it's like they're gonna go visit Disneyland. And everybody's welcome, so they come all the time.
- DPDeric Poston
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
And so, you know, like last week, we had Colin Quinn and Chris Distefano, and Shane's in there all the time, and Schultz when he comes by.
- DPDeric Poston
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
And Dave when he's in town, and it's like-
- DPDeric Poston
And then surprised with, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh.
- DPDeric Poston
... Howie Mandel or some shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
You're like, "What the fuck?" Howie doing here?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ron White's there all the time.
- DPDeric Poston
(sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's amazing. It's amazing. We're lucky as shit, man. But it's almost like the universe wanted this to happen, 'cause all the things that had to be in place for this to, to, to happen-
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they're all just sorta, like, ev- you know how when you're driving and you just keep hitting green lights?
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, the, uh, light's red, but as you're pulling up, like, "Do I have to slow down?" No, green light.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Bam, let's go.
- 47:47 – 58:02
Building the Mothership: history of the venue and a club run for comics
- JRJoe Rogan
So when everybody was out here early, you know, I, I had gone through this thing where I had the first club and the, the, the, the deal fell apart, the Cult House.
- DPDeric Poston
The Cult House.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Goddamn, I'm glad we didn't get that one. That would have ruined everything.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah, that would not have been as...
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- DPDeric Poston
'Cause the placement of this one.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's perfect. The fact that it's on that maniac street.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that street's alive, dude.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That street's alive.
- DPDeric Poston
When you... Right, I like that, 'cause as an audience member, when you get there-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DPDeric Poston
... you're like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
... you're now awake. You don't get to wander in. Like it's not in a mall or some shit. It's like, "No, you're awake now."
- JRJoe Rogan
But when the deal fell through with the Cult place and then we walked into that movie theater, when it was a movie theater still-
- DPDeric Poston
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I remember walking in there going, "Oh, shit." Like, "Okay, so this is it." It was so clear. It was like you hear a sound in the distance of the direction you're supposed to go to. You hear boom. Like, "Okay, here we go." That's how it felt. It really felt like that. It felt like, "Goddamn, man, this place is alive." This place has like... It's got memories baked into it.
- DPDeric Poston
Yes. Stevie Ray Vaughan.
- JRJoe Rogan
Stevie Ray Vaughan. Steve Ray Vaughan was on that stage. Willie Nelson was on that stage.
- DPDeric Poston
S- Willie Nelson was on that stage?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, man. All those dudes in the green room, all those posters are in the green room.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Those are all real shows from the Ritz.... yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
I did not know that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, man. A lot, a lot of bands played there, a lot of bands. Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
So you could feel it in the walls.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a lot of things happen in that place. It used to be a pool hall, it used to be a nudie movie theater at one point in time.
- DPDeric Poston
Oh, there's jizz in there, bro.
- 58:02 – 1:24:17
Crafting stand-up: writing through bombs, studying tape, and the “belts” system
- JRJoe Rogan
Having Kill Tony in a town changes the town, because now all that... There's all these temptations to go down the road of fuckery when you're first on stage.
- DPDeric Poston
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
You wanna try to, like, make yourself out to be something you wish you were. You want people to think you're smart. You want people to think you're cool. And if you have five minutes, sometimes five minutes is too much in the beginning. You really don't deserve five minutes.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You deserve a minute.
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs) Just think-
- JRJoe Rogan
You deserve one minute. There should be a bunch of people doing one minute. And then it should be like belts. Like, you're a white belt. You just started out. Okay, you've been doing comedy six months, eight months, maybe you're ready for your blue belt. Depends on how much you're getting on stage. And then a couple years after that, now you're a purple belt. Now you're opening up for really good comics-
- DPDeric Poston
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... when they're on the road. You know, this guy's in town, you're gonna open for him.
- DPDeric Poston
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
Colin Quinn wants you to open for him. Oh, shit, now you're purple belt. Now you start going on the road as a middle act. Now you're a brown belt. You know, now you might have 20 murderous minutes, you know? A min- you might be doing stand-up six, seven years. You're a brown belt now. And then eventually, you move into headlining, and then you get your black belt. And then you realize like, "Oh, people are coming to see me. Okay. (exhales) I gotta go to work."
- DPDeric Poston
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"You know, they're coming to see me."
- DPDeric Poston
That's a different thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
You have to be like, "Sit down." You know? Like, i- it has to take pre-... Like, I will run away from a conversation if I get an idea, 'cause I know they're slippery. They're slippery.
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They slip through your fingers sometimes. Sometimes you just have a great idea, you're like, "Ah. Uh..." Like, my family gets it. My wife gets it. I go, "Hang on, I got an idea. I have an idea." I just have to say, "I have an idea," and everybody leaves me room, and I just run away. I run away so no one can talk to me, and then I grab my phone, and I just start either talking into it, which is best because then I can keep it quicker, or I start writing it.
- DPDeric Poston
That's beautiful, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
I've seen you do that, where you're just completely... (whoosh)
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what Neal Brennan said to me once? He said, "I think of, uh, my notebook as like a net that I catch my ideas in." I was like, "Ooh."
- DPDeric Poston
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh, Neal Brennan's a smart motherfucker. That's a great, that's a great quote.
- DPDeric Poston
That is, 'cause it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause it's exactly what it is. It's a net.
- DPDeric Poston
The moment you do the thing where you're like, "Oh," you think of something and are like, "I'm gonna write it down later."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DPDeric Poston
It's gone.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, you know why I've been thinking about going to Android? 'Cause Samsung phones, when you, um... if you record your sets-
- DPDeric Poston
Yeah.
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