Joe Rogan Experience #2146 - Deric Poston

Narrator 0:00 (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)

Joe Rogan 0:12 Joe Rogan!

Deric Poston 0:13 My brother.

Joe Rogan 0:14 That's my man. What's happening?

Deric Poston 0:15 Let's get it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:16 Let's go.

Deric Poston 0:16 Joe Rogan.

Joe Rogan 0:17 Bro, we've had a million conversations like this, uh, in the green room.

Deric Poston 0:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:21 We've already done like a thousand podcasts.

Deric Poston 0:23 Th- This is my every night right here.

Joe Rogan 0:24 We need a fucking studio in that club. You know? We need to put a podcast studio in that club. I've been thinking about it, but like, we don't have the space for it.

Deric Poston 0:32 Yeah, where would it go?

Joe Rogan 0:33 It wouldn't go anywhere. There's no place. There's no ... We have ... We used ... It's like very efficient. We have all the space. I don't know. (dishes clanking)

Deric Poston 0:40 Yeah, but you gotta put-

Joe Rogan 0:41 I think what we need is a apartment. We need an apartment close, (plate clanks) so we can just go right over.

Deric Poston 0:47 Go right over.

Joe Rogan 0:48 Like, go ... A apartment that's just set up as a studio. When you get in there it's just all studio.

Deric Poston 0:53 That would be nice, Joe.

Joe Rogan 0:54 Yeah. 'Cause there's so many apartments that are available in that area, right?

Narrator 0:57 I just got one.

Joe Rogan 0:58 Yeah, Jamie just got one.

Deric Poston 0:59 (laughs)

Narrator 1:00 ... get next door so I don't have a neighbor.

Joe Rogan 1:02 Oh, that's not a bad idea.

Narrator 1:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04 How far away are you from my club?

Narrator 1:05 Two blocks.

Joe Rogan 1:06 Ooh, let's go. Is the nextdoor neighbor open?

Narrator 1:10 I think they all are.

Joe Rogan 1:11 Oh, that'd be perfect.

Narrator 1:11 I'll wait till you-

Joe Rogan 1:11 We could give you the keys.

Narrator 1:12 Wait till you see my view.

Joe Rogan 1:13 Ooh, that's what I want.

Narrator 1:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:15 I want a view like that, because, like, how dope would that be? Late night, all of us chilling, windows-

Narrator 1:21 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 1:21 ... see the city. I want as ... I was gonna do that in downtown LA.

Deric Poston 1:25 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:25 Yeah, but then I went to downtown LA.

Deric Poston 1:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:27 I'm like, "Oh my God." And I brought my family, and I brought my daughters when they were young, and I was like, "Oh my God, am I gonna have to kill somebody?" Like, this is c- It was crazy. And this is pre-pandemic, man.

Deric Poston 1:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:39 This is before the shit hit the fan. I'm like, people were just pissing all over the place.

Deric Poston 1:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:43 It smelled terrible. There was a ... There's some really good donut place that's in downtown LA. So we were like, "Let's go get some donuts. Let's get crazy."

Deric Poston 1:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:53 "Let's just go find ..." So, uh, we would up going to the one in Pasadena, 'cause there's a ... Or Glendale? There's one, there's one somewhere else. There's one somewhere else that's also like that. And, uh, we wound up with ... Silverlake? Might be Silv- It was a lot of hippies.

Deric Poston 2:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:06 Probably Silv- It was like the, uh, total opposite. I'm, "I'll take hippies all day."

Deric Poston 2:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:11 I'll take, like, you know, woke people with fucking green hair all day that are homeless.

Deric Poston 2:15 All day over I Am Legend? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:17 Bro, full on I Am Legend.

Deric Poston 2:18 I Am Legend?

Joe Rogan 2:19 Full on I Am Legend, yeah. Yeah.

Deric Poston 2:22 To go down there and get a donut though is ... It's worth it. LA donuts are the best. It's not even fucking close.

Joe Rogan 2:26 Really?

Deric Poston 2:26 I think so. Kind of like a New York bagel. There's something about certain breads, I feel like, in certain places that hit different.

Joe Rogan 2:32 Bro, when Krispy Kreme's coming outta the do- right outta the oven, it is hard to fuck with anything else.

Deric Poston 2:36 Nothing.

Joe Rogan 2:37 L- Those glazed ones, the maple glazed, when they're coming right out.

Deric Poston 2:41 Maple.

Joe Rogan 2:41 Oh ...

Deric Poston 2:42 Oh, Joe.

Joe Rogan 2:43 So good, so good.

Deric Poston 2:46 You fucked me up though. I haven't had bread, Joe ... I haven't really had bread, probably maybe twice since we did the carnivore.

Joe Rogan 2:51 Good.

Deric Poston 2:51 Maybe twice.

Joe Rogan 2:52 Good.

Deric Poston 2:53 You fucked it up.

Joe Rogan 2:53 Every now and then it's okay. Every now and then it's okay. The real problem is when it becomes a part of your diet, when it's a normal part of your diet. When I eat a piece of pizza my body's like, "Yo, what are you doing? Like, relax. We're having a drink. Have a pizza, come on." And then I, I don't eat for a while.

Deric Poston 3:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:10 Let it clear out of my system. Then I go back to eating clean. But if you have that as a normal part of your life, it's just like all these things compound, right?

Deric Poston 3:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:18 You know, you smoke too many blunts, that compounds. You, you know, eat too much bad food, that can ... Look at that, right out of the oven.

Deric Poston 3:28 (gasps)

Joe Rogan 3:28 Jamie, what are you doing?

Narrator 3:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:30 Did you post this?

Narrator 3:31 Yeah, a long time ago.

Joe Rogan 3:31 Oh my God.

Deric Poston 3:32 Look at that.

Joe Rogan 3:33 Look at that.

Narrator 3:34 Look at that. At the time of creation.

Joe Rogan 3:34 That is just diabetes in food form.

Deric Poston 3:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:38 It just makes me want to feel sick. And, like, I'll take that temporary mouth pleasure for hours of feeling like dog shit.

Deric Poston 3:44 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:46 (laughs)

Narrator 3:46 (laughs)

Deric Poston 3:47 Yeah, Joe. Oh, it feels so good. Yeah, I ... The bread thing ... Joe, this was the first time in my life I hadn't had Hot Cheetos every day.

Joe Rogan 3:57 (laughs) Would you prefer Hot Cheetos over Takis? 'Cause I know a lot of people are very-

Deric Poston 4:00 Yeah, love Takis. I'm a, I'm a, uh ... That's the Black in me I think, 'cause I'm a Hot Cheeto. Mexicans love the Takis.

Joe Rogan 4:05 Cheetos Takis.

Deric Poston 4:05 They love the Takis.

Joe Rogan 4:06 You know I really like them crunchy Cheetos, them little tinier ones.

Deric Poston 4:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:09 The more crunchy ones.

Deric Poston 4:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what-

Joe Rogan 4:10 What are those called?

Deric Poston 4:11 The ... To me those are the regulars, and then you've got the Puffs. I'll fuck with a Puff.

Joe Rogan 4:14 Oh. I thought of ... I ... When I think of Cheetos I always think of Puffs.

Deric Poston 4:17 Interesting. I think of the re- the ones you're thinking of, the little ones that are, like, harder.

Joe Rogan 4:20 Yeah.

Deric Poston 4:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:21 Yeah, I like those.

Deric Poston 4:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:22 Those are my favorite.

Deric Poston 4:22 I've had them every day of my life, Joe, until-

Joe Rogan 4:25 That's ...

Deric Poston 4:25 ... you said, "Hey, let's do the carnivore diet."

Joe Rogan 4:27 (laughs) Ah.

Deric Poston 4:27 I'm fucking 33.

Joe Rogan 4:28 That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. You shouldn't be eating that. You know Fritos, those little corn chips?

Deric Poston 4:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:34 We used those to start a fire in Alaska.

Deric Poston 4:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:38 When we were camping.

Deric Poston 4:40 Wait, what?

Joe Rogan 4:41 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, one of the dudes that works for my friend Steve Rinella told us that they're very flammable. And I'm like, "Really?" And so we used that to start a fire. We were in, uh, Prince Edwards Island, which is, um ... Prince of Wales Island? Which one? Prince Edwards? Which one, which one's the one in Alaska? Prince Edwards.

Narrator 5:01 Prince Edwards Island.

Joe Rogan 5:01 Prince of Wales, what is that? I don't even know if that's a real place. Prince Edwards, right?

Narrator 5:05 Prince Edward Island is a Canadian province.

Joe Rogan 5:07 Oh. What's the one in Alaska?

Narrator 5:10 Might be right next to Alaska though. No, it's not. That's the, like, complete opposite side.

Joe Rogan 5:16 What is the one that's in Alaska?

Narrator 5:18 What was the other one you said?

Joe Rogan 5:19 It's not Prince Edwards Island?

Narrator 5:20 No, that one's near Maine.

Joe Rogan 5:22 Really?

Narrator 5:22 That's what the map said.

Joe Rogan 5:23 Fuck. I can't remember the island. Anyway, um, the island in Ala- well, s- g- Google, 'cause it's-

Narrator 5:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:28 ... one of the most rainy places on Earth. B- Bryan Callen and I did a TV show from there, with, uh, with, with Meat Eater, but it rained for seven, eight days, whatever the fuck we were there for.

Deric Poston 5:39 Damn.

Joe Rogan 5:39 It rained every day.

Narrator 5:40 Prince of Wales Island.

Joe Rogan 5:41 All day.

Narrator 5:41 What's a Prince of Wales?

Joe Rogan 5:42 What's a ... Prince of Wales. Okay, it is Prince of Wales. It rained every day. And one day it didn't rain for, like, 10 hours, and we're like, "Dude, we're gonna start a fucking fire. We're gonna figure out how to start a fire." And so we got, like, sticks and shit, like, that's under everything else.

Deric Poston 5:57 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 5:57 So everything got rained on. Oh, is there video of it?

Narrator 6:01 Not you guys, but-

Joe Rogan 6:01 Oh.

Narrator 6:01 ... someone else.

Joe Rogan 6:03 ... yeah, 'cause we didn't film us doing this. But Fritos are so covered in life-stealing oil, (laughs) that they act like a firestarter, man. Look at this. They're great firestarters. Like, if you want to barbecue and, you know, you don't wanna go buy the ... You ever seen those things, tumbleweeds? You know what a tumbleweed is?

Deric Poston 6:21 No, sir.

Joe Rogan 6:23 Tumbleweeds are these little, uh, it's like little shaved pieces of wood that's, uh, like, bundled up together. And they must be soaked in some kind of flammable liquid. But if you wanna start, like, a grill, you put one of those bitches down, then you put some sticks around that and light that little tumbleweed, and woo, you're good to go.

Deric Poston 6:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:43 And then you start stacking logs.

Deric Poston 6:44 Ooh.

Joe Rogan 6:45 Yeah. But, um, you could use Fritos instead.

Deric Poston 6:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:48 That's my point. You don't need those tumbleweeds. Probably won't be as flammable, but that shit can't be good for you.

Deric Poston 6:55 And I'm eating that shit?

Joe Rogan 6:56 (laughs) Fritos are delicious.

Deric Poston 6:58 They're fucking great. Put a little chili on them.

Joe Rogan 7:00 They're so delicious, bro. Come on, man.

Deric Poston 7:02 Come on, dog. The chili powder. Whoo.

Joe Rogan 7:02 What are those, uh, those chilis where people add Fritos? They add Fritos to the chili. People do that-

Deric Poston 7:08 Oh, people do that?

Joe Rogan 7:09 ... all the time.

Deric Poston 7:09 Yeah, I like that. I like the crunch.

Joe Rogan 7:10 Hmm. A little crunch is good.

Deric Poston 7:12 Oh.

Joe Rogan 7:12 Just full experience, right? Little of the, the tangy, the spicy, little cheese in there.

Deric Poston 7:18 Yo, how the fuck are you not fat, dog?

Joe Rogan 7:20 (laughs)

Deric Poston 7:20 You got it in you. You're supposed to be fat as shit.

Joe Rogan 7:23 It's just discipline. I get fat ... I've ... I'm pretty lean right now. Now, I'm under 200, for ... which is rare.

Deric Poston 7:29 Wow.

Joe Rogan 7:29 I'm like 197, which is nice. 'Cause ... But I've just been real clean on the diet the last few weeks. Last few weeks, I just, I started getting a little fat. I started feeling a little bit of this and I started paranoid. My gut starts sticking out. I would get it straight to the gut. 'Cause I have pretty thick abs too.

Deric Poston 7:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:45 So any fat that goes on top of this shit right here, it gets-

Deric Poston 7:48 It's a barrel.

Joe Rogan 7:49 Yeah, it gets gross. And it pokes out right here.

Deric Poston 7:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:52 And just starts looking gross. (laughs) I just see weakness.

Deric Poston 7:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:56 When I see myself in the mirror, I'm like, "You weak bitch. You weak bitch."

Deric Poston 8:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:01 "You can't, you can't stop eating spaghetti." I eat so much food, bro.

Deric Poston 8:05 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 8:05 I eat so much food. It's crazy how much I eat. I eat ... I'm a glutton, like a real glutton.

Deric Poston 8:11 Man, I've seen you put it down, brother.

Joe Rogan 8:12 Bro, I'll eat pi- ... I'll eat two pizzas.

Deric Poston 8:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:15 I'll eat two pizzas. I'll eat that whole pizza. If there's another one right there and it's warm ... Is it warm? I'll just go right in on that pizza. I'm not hungry. (laughs)

Deric Poston 8:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:22 I'm not hungry. It's just gluttony.

Deric Poston 8:25 I've seen you take down so many Golden Tiger burgers, dog.

Joe Rogan 8:28 Bro.

Deric Poston 8:28 When you get going.

Joe Rogan 8:29 Bro, that one time we went out, I ate four of them.

Deric Poston 8:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:32 I had four double cheeseburgers. (laughs) Gordon Ryan was freaking out. Gordon Ryan was with his ... Like, "How the fuck are you eating that?" I'm like, "Dude, when I get going-"

Deric Poston 8:42 Oh, that's crazy.

Joe Rogan 8:42 "... I get going, the, the wolf comes out."

Deric Poston 8:44 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:44 The wolf just wants ... (growls)

Deric Poston 8:45 (growls) (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:47 The wolf just wants to keep eating. I gotta keep that motherfucker in his cage.

Deric Poston 8:52 Yeah, you can go, bro. We start ... That's my favorite Joe. When Joe starts-

Joe Rogan 8:55 Ah.

Deric Poston 8:55 ... drinking in the greenroom.

Joe Rogan 8:56 (laughs)

Deric Poston 8:56 When Joe starts drinking, nigga. Oh, you get going, baby.

Joe Rogan 9:00 We start talking shit.

Deric Poston 9:01 Oh, it's the best. You start dancing. Oh, bro, it's over.

Joe Rogan 9:03 Bro, who has, who has more fun than us? Who has more fun than us?

Deric Poston 9:06 Nobody, bro. Oh, come on.

Joe Rogan 9:07 Bro, we're in there dancing. We're dancing, like, all the time.

Deric Poston 9:10 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 9:11 No, no self-consciousness.

Deric Poston 9:12 No.

Joe Rogan 9:12 Everybody's just having a good time.

Deric Poston 9:14 Oh, it's my favorite.

Joe Rogan 9:15 God, it's the best place in the world.

Deric Poston 9:16 Oh, the music's going.

Joe Rogan 9:17 Yeah.

Deric Poston 9:18 Oh, the tunes are going, and everybody's going up. It's just ... And you're coming-

Joe Rogan 9:21 Yeah.

Deric Poston 9:21 ... in from a set, and like ... And then you're coming and everybody's already dancing and, and shitting on, you know, Brian for saying something crazy.

Joe Rogan 9:26 (laughs)

Deric Poston 9:27 (laughs) And Tony's just roasting them. And you're dying and you're like, "This is the best night of my life, bro."

Joe Rogan 9:32 I love when Brian comes offstage and he walks in the room and he goes, "Woo."

Deric Poston 9:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:36 'Cause you know we just laid it down.

Deric Poston 9:38 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 9:38 Woo. Bro, when he was doing that WAP bit, when he was ... when he really tightened up that bit, when it was just a ... That bit was just assassination.

Deric Poston 9:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:48 That was a bit ... That bit was one of those bits where I would go out there and just sit and watch it. I watched it like ... Shit, I watched that bit 50 times.

Deric Poston 9:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:55 I just wanted to see that bit.

Deric Poston 9:56 It was-

Joe Rogan 9:56 I w- I would ask him, "You gonna close with WAP? You gonna close with WAP?" And he goes ...

Deric Poston 9:59 (laughs) He wouldn't even always close with it.

Joe Rogan 10:00 And I wouldn't want ... He goes ... Ah, the bit's like 11 minutes long. I'm like, "Please."

Deric Poston 10:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:04 "Please, just do it for me. Please."

Deric Poston 10:05 (laughs) It would be his whole set.

Joe Rogan 10:07 It was his whole set.

Deric Poston 10:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:08 But it murders.

Deric Poston 10:09 God.

Joe Rogan 10:09 It murders so hard. And it's so good. It's like that's such a quintessential Brian Simpson bit.

Deric Poston 10:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:15 Because it's clever. It's, it's ridiculous. It's ... He ... Like, he p- ... It's historical.

Deric Poston 10:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:22 He talks about him. Like, re- ... It gives you real facts.

Deric Poston 10:25 Yeah. It's so smart. And it's about WAP.

Joe Rogan 10:27 Oh.

Deric Poston 10:27 And it's full circle.

Joe Rogan 10:28 It's about pussy. (laughs)

Deric Poston 10:33 (laughs) Yeah, there's science involved. He t- ... He explains, like, times ... Like, how you multiply shit.

Joe Rogan 10:38 Yeah.

Deric Poston 10:38 You know? Like, oh my God-

Joe Rogan 10:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Deric Poston 10:40 ... he's a genius.

Joe Rogan 10:40 Yeah, yeah. It's such, such a good bit. There's certain bits where you, you hear the bit and you go, "God damn, that's a good bit."

Deric Poston 10:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:47 Like Shane Gillis' Navy SEAL bit. God damn, that's a good bit. You know one of my fa- my favorite of his bits, though? I think is the George Washington bit, for that very reason.

Deric Poston 10:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The teeth, bro. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:57 Well, it's also ... 'Cause it's interesting.

Deric Poston 10:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:59 And it's hilarious. And you know, like, that's a bit that took some time. That's not a bit that you ... the first time you do it on stage you get that product.

Deric Poston 11:08 Yes.

Joe Rogan 11:08 You know? Like, Tony has a few jokes that the very first time he does them onstage, they murder, and it's done.

Deric Poston 11:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:14 The bit's done. But, like, that, that ... Shane's bit about George Washington is a lo- ... That's a long bit, man. That's a ... That bit is complex. There's a lot of twists and turns and-

Deric Poston 11:24 Yeah, bro.

Joe Rogan 11:25 (laughs)

Deric Poston 11:25 Just the angles he takes. It's so cool. Ah, it's so cool. But, but with Brian, Joe ... You know, I, I started with Brian. He was that. He ... What he ... What you're seeing now, he was that.

Joe Rogan 11:36 Really?

Deric Poston 11:36 I met him, Joe, and he was that, bro. It was the coolest thing to be around that guy. 'Cause I think he's just the greatest, one of the greatest minds ever.

Joe Rogan 11:45 Yeah.

Deric Poston 11:45 And I'm lucky to be one of his best friends. That's how I feel.

Joe Rogan 11:47 He's very humble, too.

Deric Poston 11:49 (sighs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:49 Very, very humble, you know? I mean, until talk- ... Someone talks, talking shit to him.

Deric Poston 11:53 Well, then he's gonna destroy you. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:54 Oh, shut, shut you the fuck up. But, but, um, yeah, he's just got a unique way of looking at things. And I ... That's the wonderful thing about comedy. I hate that word wonderful, but it just was the right word for the job.

Deric Poston 12:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:06 That's the thing about ... You meet so many different people, and we all have this one thing in common. There's one thing in common. We like making people laugh.

Deric Poston 12:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:13 We like this thing we do, this art form, you know? That's it. That's the only thing ... I mean, we're ... We vary so much about s- ... With ... In so many different ways.

Deric Poston 12:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:22 ... but we all have this, like, amazing bond. Like, that place is like, it's the comedy store times... I don't know-

Deric Poston 12:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:32 ... times three, times four? Something like that?

Deric Poston 12:34 Yeah, bro. Also, we feel so like, we were here... The, the just... That we were here, we all came-

Joe Rogan 12:39 Yeah.

Deric Poston 12:39 ... before it opened. We were here to feel that.

Joe Rogan 12:42 Bro, you were an early adopter.

Deric Poston 12:44 (laughs) Yo, Joe. I came... I came out-

Joe Rogan 12:46 Derek came out here when I wasn't even sure.

Deric Poston 12:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:48 I was like, "Damn, Derek just moved here?"

Deric Poston 12:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:50 Now, I... There was a lot... I felt like one thing though about this, it's like that's one of the reasons why I felt like I had to do this, 'cause I knew the, all you guys had come out. You guys were coming out here when we were at Vulcan during the lockdown.

Deric Poston 13:03 Yep. Thank God for my wife, bro. That was her, her call, dawg. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:06 Really? That's amazing.

Deric Poston 13:07 That was my wife's call. She was look... She saw you guys there. It hadn't even crossed my mind yet. Joe... I was still in pandemic mind of like-

Joe Rogan 13:13 Right.

Deric Poston 13:13 ... "We're just here."

Joe Rogan 13:14 Yeah.

Deric Poston 13:14 "This is what it is."

Joe Rogan 13:14 That's it.

Deric Poston 13:14 And then she said it, she was like, "We're going to Austin, Texas." And I was like, "What?" She's like, "J-... They're up. Everybody's getting up." And I'm like, "Oh." And it right in my... I was like, "What the fuck am I doing?"

Joe Rogan 13:25 Yeah.

Deric Poston 13:25 "I'm going to Austin, Texas." And moved March 2021.

Joe Rogan 13:28 It was crazy because so many people were mad at us. They were mad at us for doing shows. I was like, "Are you out of your fucking mind? Are you gonna just not do shows anymore? You're gonna not talk to people?" Like, what are we doing? Like, how long does this go on? How m... How long does this go on? And in LA, the answer was a year and a half.

Deric Poston 13:43 Year and a half, Joe.

Joe Rogan 13:44 Out here it was six weeks.

Deric Poston 13:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:47 (laughs) They started just shooting guns in the air. "Shut the fuck up." (laughs)

Deric Poston 13:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:52 Peop... I saw old people with no masks on out here early on.

Deric Poston 13:56 Oh, you could feel it.

Joe Rogan 13:56 They were like, "Shut the fuck up."

Deric Poston 13:58 God, I remember when it happened. (laughs) I remember when it happened, I was talking to Brendan and right when I said, "Man, they're gonna, they're gonna hold LA down for a year." He said, "Derek, you're a fucking idiot. That would never happen."

Joe Rogan 14:07 Yeah.

Deric Poston 14:07 Cut to.

Joe Rogan 14:08 Cut to.

Deric Poston 14:08 I mean, I was like, "Oh my God."

Joe Rogan 14:10 Well, I knew it. I felt something. I, I didn't know if they were gonna lock it down for a year, but I knew LA was never gonna be the same, because there was a new attitude about law enforcement that happened after George Floyd.

Deric Poston 14:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:21 I'm like, "Oh, this place is in trouble." 'Cause r... when they had those cop cars lit up on fire on the...

Deric Poston 14:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:25 Was it on the 110? Is that what it was?

Deric Poston 14:27 Yeah, and they were like on fire and like c- cinder blocks and shit.

Joe Rogan 14:30 Yeah.

Deric Poston 14:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:30 Spray-painted, on fire, smashed everything. They were doing smash-and-grabs everywhere and they were just letting them do it. Like in Beverly Hills-

Deric Poston 14:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:38 ... all they were doing was not letting people shop when it was dark out.

Deric Poston 14:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:43 That was it. So during the day or at nighttime, everybody just smash-and-grabbed. It was like, there's... The smash-and-grabs on Beverly Hills were insane.

Deric Poston 14:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:51 It was everywhere.

Deric Poston 14:52 That shit was crazy, bro.

Joe Rogan 14:53 Crazy. Crazy. It was also people waiting for people after they were shopping, they were just stealing from them after they would go shopping at the mall in Beverly Hills.

Deric Poston 15:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:03 Like nice places in Beverly Hills, nice stores.

Deric Poston 15:05 Yeah. West Hollywood people were getting robbed, bro. It was crazy.

Joe Rogan 15:07 Bro.

Deric Poston 15:08 I was there. I saw it. There's people getting robbed.

Joe Rogan 15:10 I saw it. There was a car full of dudes that was parked in front of this gated community and they had no license plate on their car and I was driving in and I remember looking at these dudes and them looking at me. I'm like, "These are not dudes that are up to anything good."

Deric Poston 15:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:25 And they have a car with no license plate on and they're outside of this gated community, and they could've been just waiting for the, the thing to go up so they could sneak in behind it, you know?

Deric Poston 15:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:35 I don't know what they were doing, but I remember thinking like, "This is going to escalate. You're gonna get more of this." Then I saw a bu... I saw a w... I was passing by this clothing store and I saw these dudes smash the window and run inside. Crazy. In Woodland Hills. In Woodland Hills, it's like the sleepiest, most boring-ass fucking neighborhood.

Deric Poston 15:55 That's the... Yeah, that's like where the, the rich... It, it's supposed-

Joe Rogan 15:57 Yeah.

Deric Poston 15:57 ... to be the nicest.

Joe Rogan 15:57 Dr. Dre has a house out there.

Deric Poston 15:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:59 Yeah.

Deric Poston 16:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:03 It's where Whitney lives.

Deric Poston 16:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:04 You know? It's like... Yeah, that's where Schaub lives. It's like that area is nice and they were smashing windows. They lit a dumpster on fire and pushed it in front of the, the front door at Target.

Deric Poston 16:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:16 My friend was in there. My friend was in there. They, they yelled out through the, the loudspeaker. They were telling everybody, "Put down everything you have. Just don't, don't go to the cash register. Get out, get out now." And they get outside and someone had lit a fucking dumpster on fire and pushed it up against the door.

Deric Poston 16:31 Yeah. Fuck that.

Joe Rogan 16:32 Bro.

Deric Poston 16:33 I'm so glad we got out of there, Joe.

Joe Rogan 16:34 So when I came out here, it was like tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet. I went like, "Okay. What? Is the world gone mad or is just LA gone mad? Is it parts of the world gone mad?" It's like the scary thing about it was, it was an experiment, not for real. Like I, I don't think it was ex... I don't have like this conspiracy theory that they did it on purpose. I think it was a lab leak. I think they-

Deric Poston 16:53 Really?

Joe Rogan 16:53 Yeah, it was accidental. And I think they, they... There's a lot of funding involved in doing these fucking coronaviruses and there's also probably some, uh, it's probably biological weapon- weapons research too. They probably do 'cause they definitely do create viruses and they, they work on viruses for bioweapons. It's a real thing.

Deric Poston 17:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:16 Like, bioweapons is a real thing.

Deric Poston 17:18 I believe that.

Joe Rogan 17:19 So that sounds terrifying that someone would release a weapon on a city to kill everybody because you're th... But that's real.

Deric Poston 17:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:26 They really are. And they, and they... Also China and Russia, they're all do... I mean, they used gas in World War I.

Deric Poston 17:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:31 They just blew gas on people.

Deric Poston 17:32 Brother, yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:33 Yeah.

Deric Poston 17:33 I don't watch V for Vendetta and think that's not possible, nigga. That's-

Joe Rogan 17:36 Oh.

Deric Poston 17:36 That looks real, very real. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:37 Very real.

Deric Poston 17:38 That they would do something like that.

Joe Rogan 17:39 Hun... That could happen today again. It could happen again. But the, the point is it's like... I don't even remember my point. My point was like that these kind of... These things when they happen, they reveal how people react to them and people didn't react nearly as good as I'd hoped.

Deric Poston 17:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:58 They, they, they've, they've sectioned themselves off in these tribes.

Deric Poston 18:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:04 That was what was weird, man. Like-

Deric Poston 18:06 That shit broke people, Joe.

Joe Rogan 18:08 It broke people.

Deric Poston 18:09 It broke people. People still wear a masks, Joe.

Joe Rogan 18:11 Oh my God, yeah.

Deric Poston 18:12 It changed like who people are... Like, they forgot what... That they used to not wear a mask, you can tell.

Joe Rogan 18:17 Some comics from Moon Tower were walking down the street and Ari saw them. Ari saw this dude and he had a fucking giant mask on his face, one of them really fucking...

Deric Poston 18:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:27 ... formfit1s secured down.

Deric Poston 18:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:32 Just broken.

Deric Poston 18:33 Yeah. A lot of people were like that.

Joe Rogan 18:35 Broken, just broken.... but everybody got so tribal. And it also, it, it gave people an opportunity to be cunts. (sipping sound) (clears throat)

Deric Poston 18:46 Mm.

Joe Rogan 18:46 And there was a lot of people in LA in particular, and some in New York as well, that were just... They're really miserable people, and they were looking for an opportunity to shit on someone publicly because they felt like they could. Because they felt like that person was vulnerable because they were taking a controversial position.

Deric Poston 19:04 Yes.

Joe Rogan 19:05 You know, whether it's a controversial position like saying, "I don't wanna get vaccinated," or it's a controversial position of, of doing shows live still. People were blame... I saw, I saw a comic blame someone else for the death of their mother.

Deric Poston 19:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:19 Blame a comic that's doing shows for the death of their mother.

Deric Poston 19:22 For the death of their mom? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:24 You know, like yo.

Deric Poston 19:25 What are you talking about, bro?

Joe Rogan 19:26 (clears throat) Yeah, maybe it was a respirator.

Deric Poston 19:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:29 You know?

Deric Poston 19:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:30 Kills 80% of the people they put 'em on.

Deric Poston 19:31 I was gonna s- I remember people saying that shit though, Joe. When we like... When it, when I first moved here people were doing shows and people were saying that like, "Your... My grandmother's gonna die because of you."

Joe Rogan 19:39 No.

Deric Poston 19:39 Your grandmother's just gonna die, man.

Joe Rogan 19:41 Yeah, your grandma's gonna die. We're-

Deric Poston 19:42 She-

Joe Rogan 19:42 You're gonna die too, so am I.

Deric Poston 19:43 What are we doing?

Joe Rogan 19:44 Also, y- it's... The, the solution is not everybody stay home for your grandmother and ruin children's lives. It's ne- that's never been the case. Old people have always done the best that they can to make life safe for young people, and by locking them down, and by keeping them out of school, and by making them wear masks, you didn't make the world safer. You made it scarier, you're gonna have more people with anxiety, you're gonna have more lost years of development.

Deric Poston 20:11 Yep.

Joe Rogan 20:12 You're gonna be missing out on your education. There's nothing good about that. Nothing good about that. There's zero good about that. And if you did it to protect old people, you're a fool.

Deric Poston 20:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:21 You're a fool.

Deric Poston 20:22 It ruined young people's lives. There are people who missed their senior year, junior year, they didn't have it.

Joe Rogan 20:25 Yeah.

Deric Poston 20:25 And I think about... That's like a year that you need in your life. It's a memorable thing.

Joe Rogan 20:29 Bro, it became like a child sacrifice thing, like they didn't care about the children. They didn't care what was happening to them. "We have to protect our vulnerable." It's not gonna protect 'em, that's now how it works. It... Like there's no, there is no science behind it. In the age of science... What the fuck is wrong with my voice today? (clears throat) Thank God I got a cough button. I'm like a professional.

Deric Poston 20:48 (laughs) Yeah, Joe. You have a cough button.

Joe Rogan 20:50 Yeah, we got a cough button. If you gotta s- cough... I should give that shit to Graham Hancock the other day.

Deric Poston 20:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:54 Some people just cough. Um, but i- in the age of science and reason, people abandoned science to, to, to confirm their worst fears, and to confirm all their weird anxieties, and they started to use the... This is... Which is the reason why people believe that a mask that you could breathe out of is gonna protect you from a virus that's floating in the air.

Deric Poston 21:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:16 Or that you're gonna stop a respiratory virus by just keeping children out of school. Shut the fuck up. Like shut the fuck up with all this.

Deric Poston 21:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:22 Or that all of a sudden the pharmaceutical drug companies should be trusted. Like shut the fuck up, you guys. You're not, you're not being reasonable. You're just... You're acting like pussies. And I'm not saying you're acting like pussies 'cause COVID wasn't dangerous. Of course it was dangerous. I'm saying you're acting like pussies and you're not willing to look at the truth because you're scared that it's gonna go against this thing that you have in your head that's a narrative-

Deric Poston 21:44 Yes.

Joe Rogan 21:44 ... that you've been sticking to this whole time.

Deric Poston 21:46 Yes. People don't like to just... Also people just don't like to be like, "Oh man, I was wrong about that."

Joe Rogan 21:50 Yeah.

Deric Poston 21:50 It's okay. Nobody's... You're not, uh, a bad person to be like, "Man, COVID came and I kind of freaked... I, I kind of went over the... I went too far." It's okay.

Joe Rogan 21:56 You know when it gets... When it gets 'em is when they get vaccine injured. Chris Cuomo just came out and said he's got a vaccine injury. That guy was pushing that shit on TV forever, and he said he got it (coughs) with his first dose and then he got it again with his second dose. Ladies and gentlemen, I apologize for that cough.

Deric Poston 22:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:15 I could have reached for that button, I got lazy.

Deric Poston 22:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:17 I could have just reached for that button. I could have just pressed that button.

Deric Poston 22:20 Wait, what's a vaccine injury?

Joe Rogan 22:22 (sighs) Something happens when you get the COVID shot, you know? And it's not just the COVID shot. There, there's... People have adverse reactions to all kinds of medications, right? But particularly to this one, this is one... The, the first time they ever l- rolled something out to billions of people worldwide, and some people had terrible reactions. And one of 'em apparently was Chris Cuomo.

Deric Poston 22:46 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 22:46 (smacks lips) Yeah, people get, uh, heart palpitations, bad blood work, they get clots. Like there's, there's a bunch of different confirmed side effects that happen. Myocarditis is some. Also, there's a thing about... You're, you're supposed to... When you inject them, you're supposed to aspirate, which means when you inject it into the muscle, 'cause it's intramuscular, you're supposed to pull back the syringe to make sure that you're not hitting a blood vessel, and they never do that. Even on the president. If you watch the president get vaccinated on TV... And I don't think he got vaccinated on TV.

Deric Poston 23:19 What do you mean, Joe? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:19 I don't think they took that chance. I think there was salt water in that thing.

Deric Poston 23:23 Joe, don't say that.

Joe Rogan 23:23 Yeah, I thi- I don't think they-

Deric Poston 23:24 I took that shit for real. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:26 Well, I'm not s- I'm just saying on TV. I'm sure they probably vaccinated him.

Deric Poston 23:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:30 Did you have a side effect?

Deric Poston 23:32 Oh, I was sick as a dog.

Joe Rogan 23:33 Yeah?

Deric Poston 23:33 Wife was fine. I was a... I was fucked up.

Joe Rogan 23:35 What did it do to you?

Deric Poston 23:36 Just, it felt like I got into a car wreck or something. I was just completely sore, really sick. I remember being crazy tired.

Joe Rogan 23:41 Hmm.

Deric Poston 23:42 Just tired.

Joe Rogan 23:42 For how long?

Deric Poston 23:43 Like two days.

Joe Rogan 23:44 Hmm, that's not bad.

Deric Poston 23:45 And then it bounced right back, you know. But it, but it felt like... Where it was like, "Oh man, Derek, you're sick," like...

Joe Rogan 23:50 That's the-

Deric Poston 23:50 ... "Holy shit."

Joe Rogan 23:50 I think that's the normal reaction if it's working.

Deric Poston 23:54 Oh.

Joe Rogan 23:54 See, the problem is when you have a bad reaction, you know? Your body reacts to it in a negative way. Like there's people that have had strokes and heart attacks, and people have died like right after the shot. And th- you know, no one wants to attribute it to the shot, but a bunch of injuries they have attributed definitely directly to the shot. You know, if they confirmed it when it's happened. They won't say it's zero.

Deric Poston 24:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:21 They won't say it's zero. But the que- the real question is like how many people? How many people are being honest about it? How many people are even telling people about it? Because even though they feel like shit after they got vaccinated, even though they have health problems, they told people to get vaccinated. They, they were... So it's- it takes like this (sighs) big moment of bravery to sort of admit...... just step out and admit, uh, "I got caught up in the madness of it all, and, um, I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about, and I was shaming people and telling people to do something."

Deric Poston 24:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:50 This is New York Times now.

Narrator 24:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:52 Now, it's interesting because Alex Berenson wrote a, a piece about this. He, he said it's hardcore gaslighting. And his Substack, if you go to his Substack, it's very interesting. But this is in New York Times, "Thousands believe COVID vaccines harmed them. Is anyone listening? All vaccines have at least occasional side effects, but people who say they were injured by COVID vaccines believe their cases have been ignored." Well, they have. They have been ignored. I have friends that have, uh, that have been ignored.

Deric Poston 25:18 I never really hear that side of it, though. That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 25:20 Yeah. There's a lo- well, if you're p- if you're in that world, like, I got dragged into that world, unfortunately.

Deric Poston 25:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:27 I, I did not wanna be in that world. I did not wanna be in the world of arguing with people about medical information or, or medical f- facts, or i- m- m- just whatever fucking pharmaceutical drug company propaganda you gotta battle against. Like, who wants to be involved in that shit?

Deric Poston 25:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:42 I'll just stay out of my life. I'll stay out of yours. You can trick people into doing this every year. You do whatever you gotta do. But, but once you get dragged into it, you're like, "Oh, this is kinda evil." They don't give a... When... I knew it was evil when they were vaccinating kids, when they were forcing kids to get vaccinated, because no data, I mean none, zero, said it was dangerous for kids. All data pointed to that kids got over this very easy.

Deric Poston 26:08 And that elderly people. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 26:10 Yeah. My kids got it, it was nothing. It was nothing. It's elderly people. It's vulnerable people. It's overweight people. That was, like, a big percentage of the people that died.

Deric Poston 26:19 Why do they wanna vaccinate? Like, for what reason?

Joe Rogan 26:21 Money. They're making money off of it. Yeah. And also, to, uh, to help people feel better that are, like, super anxious, that are worried their kids are gonna give it to 'em. But it's, uh, it was a wild time, man, to watch the whole world lose its fucking mind. It was a wild time. And it was a perfect time for us to come out here. It was perfect.

Deric Poston 26:42 Perfect, Joe.

Joe Rogan 26:45 And we were right.

Deric Poston 26:45 We were right. People

Narrator 26:46 Okay.

Joe Rogan 26:46 We were right.

Deric Poston 26:47 We were so right. We fucking nailed that shit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:48 (laughs) We were right.

Narrator 26:49 (laughs)

Deric Poston 26:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:49 You guys are all back to normal life now, except suckier.

Deric Poston 26:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:52 Your guys are back in LA. You're back to normal life, but more dangerous, more crime, more sucky. Like-

Deric Poston 26:58 Shows are nowhere near as hot. I've been ar- there's no... They are not as close to as hot as these shows in Austin, Texas.

Joe Rogan 27:04 No.

Deric Poston 27:04 Anywhere you go, Joe, you can... In a three-block span, I can get up six times.

Joe Rogan 27:08 Yeah.

Deric Poston 27:09 Sold out shows, all hot. Great lineups. Um, i- m- y- that i- that iron sharpens iron feeling-

Joe Rogan 27:15 Oh, my God.

Deric Poston 27:15 ... of watching, when I got to watch when I was at the store parking cars and-

Joe Rogan 27:18 Yeah.

Deric Poston 27:18 ... door guy-ing, and I got to see that.

Joe Rogan 27:20 Yeah.

Deric Poston 27:20 So that's how I know that, oh, this is happening here.

Joe Rogan 27:22 Yeah. We set up a destination. It's a destination. For comics, it's like they're gonna go visit Disneyland. And everybody's welcome, so they come all the time.

Deric Poston 27:29 Yep.

Joe Rogan 27:29 And so, you know, like last week, we had Colin Quinn and Chris Distefano, and Shane's in there all the time, and Schultz when he comes by.

Deric Poston 27:37 Yep.

Joe Rogan 27:37 And Dave when he's in town, and it's like-

Deric Poston 27:39 And then surprised with, like-

Joe Rogan 27:40 Ugh.

Deric Poston 27:40 ... Howie Mandel or some shit.

Joe Rogan 27:41 Yeah.

Deric Poston 27:41 You're like, "What the fuck?" Howie doing here?

Joe Rogan 27:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ron White's there all the time.

Deric Poston 27:45 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 27:45 It's amazing. It's amazing. We're lucky as shit, man. But it's almost like the universe wanted this to happen, 'cause all the things that had to be in place for this to, to, to happen-

Deric Poston 27:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:55 ... they're all just sorta, like, ev- you know how when you're driving and you just keep hitting green lights?

Deric Poston 27:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:59 Like, the, uh, light's red, but as you're pulling up, like, "Do I have to slow down?" No, green light.

Deric Poston 28:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:03 Bam, let's go.

Deric Poston 28:04 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:04 That's what it was like. Like, at every point, we just kept hitting green lights.

Deric Poston 28:07 Yeah. And everyone moving, Shane moving at Digis.

Joe Rogan 28:10 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 28:10 And now all the Philly guys are here, and you feel more people are moving.

Joe Rogan 28:12 Yeah.

Deric Poston 28:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:13 When Duncan moved here, that was big.

Deric Poston 28:15 Duncan. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:15 Tom was the early... Well, he was one of the earliest.

Deric Poston 28:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:17 Tom was real early. I was just telling him, I go, "Dude." I go, "It's awesome here." I go, "People are friendly. It's like, there's no traffic. And, uh, we could do comedy." He's like, "I'm moving. That's it." Tom was out here early on.

Deric Poston 28:29 Yeah, he was. He was here way before me.

Joe Rogan 28:31 Yeah.

Deric Poston 28:31 So, it, that, that was cool to see big dogs-

Joe Rogan 28:33 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 28:33 ... to see, like, big dogs, and f-

Joe Rogan 28:35 Yeah.

Deric Poston 28:35 ... big dogs who have to move, like, their families.

Joe Rogan 28:38 Yeah.

Deric Poston 28:39 That's what I mean. So to me, that's what made it more real too, 'cause I'm looking at it like, "Well, I'm a comic. I got noth- more nothing to lose. Me and my wife have no kids. We're just kinda flying by the seat of our pants." But when you see people get up and move their family, it's like-

Joe Rogan 28:47 Yeah.

Deric Poston 28:47 ... well, that's a decision.

Joe Rogan 28:49 Yeah.

Deric Poston 28:49 This, I don't think he's fucking around here. Like, I remember people saying, "Oh, he's never gonna be able to build a club." It's like, and his fucking family's here. I don't think (laughs) he's-

Joe Rogan 28:55 Yeah.

Deric Poston 28:55 ... playing, (laughs) you know?

Joe Rogan 28:57 I was just gonna-

Deric Poston 28:57 But that was the thing.

Joe Rogan 28:58 ... do it the right way. And I wasn't talking about it. I mean, I was saying that it was gonna happen, but I wasn't talking about it too much. People were, "Psh, you ain't gonna do that."

Deric Poston 29:04 Everyone.

Joe Rogan 29:05 Hey.

Deric Poston 29:05 People were telling me-

Joe Rogan 29:06 (laughs)

Deric Poston 29:06 ... I was dumb. Oh, Joe. I'm not gonna say names, but you know who you fucking are.

Joe Rogan 29:10 (laughs)

Deric Poston 29:11 Famous comics saying, "You ruined..." Oh, man, he fucked up your career.

Joe Rogan 29:13 Psh, ah.

Deric Poston 29:14 People said that to me in Asylum.

Joe Rogan 29:15 Bobby Lee. Ah. (laughs)

Narrator 29:18 (laughs)

Deric Poston 29:18 Fat fuck, I love you. Goddamn-

Joe Rogan 29:20 (laughs)

Deric Poston 29:21 ... fat fucking piece of shit. Why is it-

Narrator 29:23 Bobby operates on fear.

Joe Rogan 29:24 Ugh, yeah. Bobby ope- I love Bobby to death.

Deric Poston 29:27 Me too. That's the thing, I was like, "Man, I love you, dog."

Joe Rogan 29:30 He operates on fear. He, but also, he doesn't really s- mean it. He's j- kinda saying it. Like, with Bobby, everything is kind of like a gag.

Deric Poston 29:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:36 Like, everything, even when he's, like, angry, it's like, "Are you really angry?" He starts laughing, like, with-

Deric Poston 29:40 (laughs) And then he'll start tickling you, and you're like, "Bro."

Joe Rogan 29:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything's kinda like... That's one of the beautiful things about Bobby. Everything's like half a gag. But also, like, the reality, that he doesn't like, you know, the anxiety of let- that move, the whole thing, the fear of it. And for you to do it, he's gonna shit on you, 'cause you did a thing that he probably should do too.

Deric Poston 29:59 Clearly.

Joe Rogan 30:00 Yeah. I mean, I talked to him when he was out here, and he's like, "Fuck." I go, "Just move here."

Deric Poston 30:04 Oh, they all say that, right when they come. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:05 It's easy.

Deric Poston 30:06 Right when they come.

Joe Rogan 30:06 Ugh.

Deric Poston 30:07 They all are like, "Oh, man. Oh." You could see it on him.

Joe Rogan 30:09 Yeah. He left the club with t- two beautiful ladies. I was like, "Where you going, Bobby?" He's like, "I'll be back."

Deric Poston 30:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:15 "I'm famous here."

Deric Poston 30:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:18 (laughs)

Narrator 30:19 (laughs)

Deric Poston 30:21 (inhales deeply) (laughs) No, he's- yeah, everybody-

Joe Rogan 30:24 Everybody loves him.

Deric Poston 30:24 Oh, I- I do remember he said that, though.

Joe Rogan 30:26 Yeah, they were scared. They actually-

Deric Poston 30:27 "Joe, you made a big mistake." I was like, "Bro, you made... You had collab... We all make mistakes."

Narrator 30:30 (laughs)

Deric Poston 30:30 "Get the fuck out my face, dog."

Narrator 30:32 (laughs)

Deric Poston 30:33 Get the fuck out.

Joe Rogan 30:33 Shut the fuck up advice boy. (laughs)

Deric Poston 30:35 Yo, like what are you talking about right now, man? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:37 Who the fuck are you talking to? Who the fuck is that guy?

Deric Poston 30:40 Who the fuck? Joe...

Joe Rogan 30:42 (laughs)

Deric Poston 30:42 Like, oh man, 'cause... I just... I'm so glad I did, man. Just... So glad I did, brother.

Joe Rogan 30:48 Yeah, man. I'm glad you did too.

Deric Poston 30:49 Changed my... I mean, that- that helped me meet Schulz. I didn't- I didn't know Schulz in LA.

Joe Rogan 30:53 Oh, that's right.

Deric Poston 30:53 I got here, and then he was coming to San Antonio and Tony... He hit up Tony Hinchcliffe, thank God for Tony, and he hit up Tony and said, "Hey, I need a host for tonight."

Joe Rogan 31:00 Ah.

Deric Poston 31:01 And Tony said... And I'll never... It's awesome that Tony said this and he showed me this too. He said, "Schulz, I got the perfect guy for you. I think you guys will work well together."

Joe Rogan 31:07 Mm.

Deric Poston 31:08 He called it. He said, man... And Tony told me, he said, "I have a feeling you guys are gonna be friends."

Joe Rogan 31:11 Yeah.

Deric Poston 31:11 And now that's my brother. Like, you know, he came to the wedding. I went to his. Like, I love that guy.

Joe Rogan 31:16 Tony is one of the unsung best guys for like promoting talent. You know, people don't think about Tony when they think about that, which is kind of crazy because that's what Kill Tony is.

Deric Poston 31:26 Yes.

Joe Rogan 31:27 He doesn't get the credit that he deserves for like starting careers. Like there's a lot of guys that they started their career with Tony.

Deric Poston 31:35 Yep.

Joe Rogan 31:36 And he's like really good at promoting people. Like he's like real generous about it.

Deric Poston 31:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:40 He's always talking about it.

Deric Poston 31:42 On camera and off camera.

Joe Rogan 31:43 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 31:43 He'll do... That's what people don't see.

Joe Rogan 31:44 Yeah.

Deric Poston 31:44 They think, "Oh, he's doing it on Kill Tony." It's like, no, he's doing that off camera.

Joe Rogan 31:47 No, no, no, no, no. He's doing that in the green room. He'll tell us about how someone killed in the green room, about the... Let someone open for him somewhere and they murdered and... Yeah, yeah, no.

Deric Poston 31:55 He'll tell you and be like, "Oh, Joe, Joe, look at this door guy." Or, "Watch this door guy." Like I've seen him do it. You know, where it's like, "Man, this..."

Joe Rogan 31:59 He does it all the time. Yeah, he... Tony loves comedy. He loves it. He fucking lives it. He breathes it. So having that guy in town too was huge. Like Tony moved real early on too.

Deric Poston 32:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:11 You know, but Tony and me, we're best friends.

Deric Poston 32:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:14 I mean, we- we've been on the road together like, I don't know, 150 fucking shows somewhere. Somewhere around that range. Probably more than that. Over the years, I mean, I've been doing shows with him for, fuck, at least 10 years. You know, I don't even know when we started doing shows together, but it had to be before 2014. I think I met him at the Icehouse.

Deric Poston 32:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:33 Like way back in the day. And so like I've seen that dude like really come together. I've seen that dude like really become like a killer comedian. You know, I watched him on The Roast last night or Saturday night. Goddamn, dude.

Deric Poston 32:49 Joe.

Joe Rogan 32:49 Goddamn.

Deric Poston 32:50 That one he said about Sam Jack?

Joe Rogan 32:51 Oh, she hell naws the pussy. (laughs)

Deric Poston 32:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:55 She oh hell naws the pussy.

Deric Poston 32:57 Oh hell naws it. (laughs) Oh my God. And the one about Bert.

Joe Rogan 33:01 (laughs)

Deric Poston 33:01 Oh, he was going in.

Joe Rogan 33:02 The Bertha King. (laughs)

Deric Poston 33:04 (laughs) Bertha King. The Tiger King fucked the Liberty King and had a liver like Rodney King. Fuck that... Oh, bro. He's the GOAT.

Joe Rogan 33:11 Oh.

Deric Poston 33:11 When it comes to that roasting shit, I... Man, I think he the GOAT.

Joe Rogan 33:14 He's the GOAT.

Deric Poston 33:15 I think he's the greatest.

Joe Rogan 33:15 Tony's the best.

Deric Poston 33:16 Yep.

Joe Rogan 33:16 You know, I'm not gonna say it, but there were some forces that were trying to limit him from his ability to shine.

Deric Poston 33:25 They- they see it. They see he's coming for...

Joe Rogan 33:27 Yeah, yeah.

Deric Poston 33:27 They know he's coming for the title.

Joe Rogan 33:28 He's- he's reckless, and that's what they're not. Okay? There's a- there's a kind of like reckless comedy, you know, that like you- you know you're gonna take the heat, but you don't give a fuck, you're going in. That's reckless. That's Tony. Tony's reckless. He's driving fast and he's gonna crash.

Deric Poston 33:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:45 (laughs) It's like, he's gonna crash, but he's just like real confident in his mechanic.

Deric Poston 33:52 Yeah, he goes, man.

Joe Rogan 33:53 He goes.

Deric Poston 33:54 He's goes for it.

Joe Rogan 33:54 He's- he's just going for the comedy, and that's what- that's what comedy used to be, right?

Deric Poston 33:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:59 And now there's a lot of people today that- that's not what comedy is for them anymore. Now they're like trying to color inside the lines and there- there's people that want to be funny, but they also kind of want to appeal to the wokesters.

Deric Poston 34:10 Yes.

Joe Rogan 34:11 They want to appeal to this ridiculous ideology that's very controlling. But they- if they do, then the comments that they read on Twitter will be positive, 'cause those are the kind of like socially retarded cunts that sit at home all day and complain about things.

Deric Poston 34:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:25 So if you want to get their input, you have to kind of like feed into their nonsense.

Deric Poston 34:31 Ugh, and that ruins comedy.

Joe Rogan 34:32 Ruins comedy.

Deric Poston 34:33 That ruins it, man.

Joe Rogan 34:34 Ruins great comics. It does. It turns great comics into cowards.

Deric Poston 34:38 Yeah, you see it. Like they're so... You can see it while they're on stage, like, "Oh, you're worried about an acting job," in the back of your head. It's not even a real job. You don't even have it yet. It's just a job in the future-

Joe Rogan 34:46 Oh, yeah.

Deric Poston 34:47 ... that you might... I don't want to piss off...

Joe Rogan 34:49 Yeah.

Deric Poston 34:49 It's like, bro, it's not even a real thing.

Joe Rogan 34:51 Yeah, the connection between comedy and Hollywood is one of the worst ideas of all time. The... It would be like the connection of Alcoholics Anonymous and rock shows.

Deric Poston 35:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:01 Literally, like that's-

Deric Poston 35:03 The big finish.

Joe Rogan 35:03 That's literally how bad it is of a connection.

Deric Poston 35:06 Yeah, they don't belong in the same universe.

Joe Rogan 35:08 No, no, no. But the thing is like they offered that carrot up to us. They dangle that money carrot, that carrot of TV. "Ooh, Derek, don't you want to be in the movies? Ooh, Derek, don't you want to host your own sitcom or be on a sitcom or host a late night talk show or..." You know?

Deric Poston 35:25 That's how they get... But as a kid, that's what you see. You're like, "Oh, Everybody Loves Raymond." Like...

Joe Rogan 35:28 Of course.

Deric Poston 35:29 All these great things and- and they're... They are great.

Joe Rogan 35:31 Yeah.

Deric Poston 35:31 You know? But you're like, "What?"

Joe Rogan 35:33 One of the best things that happened to us was the internet, 'cause the internet did a bunch of different things. One, it made comics valuable to each other instead of in competition with each other. Because not only do we... Everybody has a show, right? If you have podcasts. All our friends have shows, right? So not only do they have shows, but that you can have them on as a guest or you can go on their show when you need to promote something. And then we all help each other. And then we tell you, "Hey, check out Derek and Hasan."

Deric Poston 36:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 36:04 "They're doing this thing." Check out Tony, check out William." And everybody does that and then everybody grows.

Deric Poston 36:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:10 Like there's no... Nobody loses. Whereas in Hollywood, if you were the host of The Tonight Show and I wanted to be the host of The Tonight Show, I'd be like, "Fuck Derek. I need that job. I want that job. When I was a kid, I wanted to be the host of The Tonight Show, but Derek's the host. Goddammit, I fucking hate Derek. I hope he crashes his car."

Deric Poston 36:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:28 "I hope he gets hooked on heroin."... and that's how they was. I mean, that's that whole thing with the David Letterman and Jay Leno-

Deric Poston 36:34 Jay Leno.

Joe Rogan 36:34 ... where Jay Leno was waiting. He was hiding in the closet, son.

Deric Poston 36:37 (exhales)

Joe Rogan 36:38 Hiding in the closet while they were having a conversation about him.

Deric Poston 36:41 That's in- that's too much.

Joe Rogan 36:43 That's insane.

Deric Poston 36:43 That's just fucking insane.

Joe Rogan 36:44 Insane.

Deric Poston 36:45 And then I know the thing between him and Conan, it- he, right? It's just like, bro, fuck all that, bro.

Joe Rogan 36:49 Also, like, Jimmy Kimmel's chiming in, everybody's chiming in. They're all like, like remember when Jimmy Kimmel berated Jay Leno-

Deric Poston 36:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:56 ... for trying to take Conan's job?

Deric Poston 36:57 Taking the job.

Joe Rogan 36:57 Like, "Hey, if Conan was killing it, that job wouldn't be available."

Deric Poston 37:01 That's how that works.

Joe Rogan 37:02 Yeah, that's how it works. But they did handcuff Conan when Conan took over Tonight Show, because Jay Leno did his show at 10:00, or like right before it, right?

Deric Poston 37:12 Wow.

Joe Rogan 37:12 He did it during primetime hours.

Deric Poston 37:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:14 So like he, he can't do that.

Deric Poston 37:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:17 That's bullshit.

Deric Poston 37:18 (laughs) Yeah. Just even hearing all that, like, damn, I'm so glad I'm in this era. Fuck that.

Joe Rogan 37:23 Yeah.

Deric Poston 37:23 The idea of you, 'cause like you said, just going on each other's podcasts. It, it, since you started podcasts, Joe, pretty much, did you see... 'Cause when you started, you must not have known that like, "Oh, we're all gonna go on each other's." When did you see that become like, "Oh, this is..."

Joe Rogan 37:34 Well, it was the attitude that we had about the store was the same attitude that transferred in the podcast, 'cause the attitude at the store, even in like the early 2000s, like when things were popping there, the attitude was like very supportive if you were cool. If you're cool and all you wanna do is just be friendly and hang out and have a good time, everybody was cool with you.

Deric Poston 37:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:59 If there was a real disagreement with people, 100% someone was a cunt, 100%. It wasn't just competitive bullshit, but in the '90s, man, dudes would like say shit to you before you went on stage, try to fuck with your confidence. Yeah, they'd make fun of your clothes or talk about your hair or s- something, just say something to you right before you went on stage. I was like, "What?"

Deric Poston 38:23 That sucks, bro.

Joe Rogan 38:24 Bro, bro, there was people that would like mock your act. Like there was a like mock laugh from the back of the room, like ha ha. You would hear comics say that and then leave the room. Oh.

Deric Poston 38:37 Just like if I'm having a bad set, man, I'm, I know.

Joe Rogan 38:39 Yeah.

Deric Poston 38:40 (laughs) Like I'm, I'm aware.

Joe Rogan 38:41 Bro, there were so many-

Deric Poston 38:42 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 38:42 ... there were so many haters. I remember, uh, there was dudes who were sitting in the back of the open mic night heckling open micers 'cause they wanted them to leave so they could get up earlier. Yeah. Like, "Get this fucking show over."

Deric Poston 38:57 I wanna fuckin'-

Joe Rogan 38:58 "Next." Like what? This person just started. What are you doing?

Deric Poston 39:01 I might fucking kill you. (laughs) That, I would, I would be so upset. I would be... That's crazy-

Joe Rogan 39:05 Y-

Deric Poston 39:05 ... to do this to somebody.

Joe Rogan 39:05 There's also like certain dudes, like say if you are, um, right now you're like a traveling middle act and there's a kid who's an open micer and you see him coming and he starts building up momentum and then he starts going on the road and then all of a sudden this guy is headlining before you are.

Deric Poston 39:25 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 39:25 What the fuck? And that happens. And then he's selling out places. "Fuck him. You believe he's selling out theaters, man? Who the fuck? You believe that guy's selling out theaters?"

Deric Poston 39:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:33 And you're sitting in the fucking hallway at The Comedy Store. "You believe that guy's selling out theaters, man? This is bullshit." (laughs)

Deric Poston 39:40 (laughs) As you're in the hallway. As you're in the fucking hallway.

Joe Rogan 39:41 That's that stupid, old, dumb mentality, that stupid, old famine mentality-

Deric Poston 39:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:47 ... for mentally ill people who are narcissists and they just can't believe that other people are having success too. (laughs)

Deric Poston 39:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:55 It's not even-

Deric Poston 39:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:56 It's not even that they're not doing pretty good.

Deric Poston 39:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:58 It's like they're... No one's ever happy if someone's doing better.

Deric Poston 40:01 God, I, my, I thank God for my best friends, but Brian Simpson, every time he, he gets anything, and I mean anything in his career, and you know how big he is.

Joe Rogan 40:08 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 40:08 Every time, the first time he got on your, first time he got on Rogan, first time he got the Netflix thing, he looks right at me every time and goes, "You're next."

Joe Rogan 40:14 Yeah.

Deric Poston 40:15 "Derek, you're next." He doesn't e-... That's the f- ev- no matter what he gets, he goes, "Derek, you're next."

Joe Rogan 40:19 Yeah.

Deric Poston 40:19 And it's just, to hear that every time from your guy that you were like, "Man, I want to be like this guy. This guy's"-

Joe Rogan 40:24 Yeah.

Deric Poston 40:24 "... the best comic I know." Like-

Joe Rogan 40:25 Yeah. Yeah, super supportive.

Deric Poston 40:26 It means everything.

Joe Rogan 40:27 It means everything. And it, that's the, that's the i- when you have that kind of, uh, environment, it feels good for everybody. This is why it's important. The selfish feeling that you want no, you want no one to do better than you and you want to be like number one and then if you see people doing better than you, you get angry, that selfish feeling is s- it, it, it ruins you 'cause it ruins your relationships with other people. You could have the exact same circumstances happen and be super happy for everybody.

Deric Poston 40:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:56 For you and for y- there's no tension. There's no need to it. There's no need for it. And if someone makes you feel bad, like if you watch someone and like they're so good they make you feel bad, go to work. Go to work.

Deric Poston 41:05 It's a good feeling.

Joe Rogan 41:06 Yeah.

Deric Poston 41:06 That's a good, that's good.

Joe Rogan 41:07 When Attell was in town, I would watch an Attell, be like, "I wanna go home and write. I wanna go home and write." Like this, this fucking guy is like, he's like a zen master up there. He's like effortlessly killing-

Deric Poston 41:17 Yes.

Joe Rogan 41:17 ... in a way that's like so... and so ridiculous and so unique. I was like, "God, this is so good." But if you're a hater-

Deric Poston 41:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:24 ... that's poison. You're watching-

Deric Poston 41:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:26 ... you're getting the exact opposite feeling from the same exact scene, the same scene. You're wa- there's guys that will... I've seen guys sitting in the back room, they were watching Chris Rock and they were watching Chris Rock with their arms crossed like this, like wanting him to suck. Wanting him to suck, not wanting him to do well. Not, not just enjoying it.

Deric Poston 41:46 Enjoy him. This is, this, it's almost comedy.

Joe Rogan 41:49 Why are you doing this shit?

Deric Poston 41:49 Yes.

Joe Rogan 41:49 Aren't you ok- d- d- aren't you a fan of this?

Deric Poston 41:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:52 What, it only has to be you? You're the only one that can be funny? That's crazy. That's crazy. You can't have a good time? So you're missing out on having a good time just so you can be selfish. There's a zero upside.

Deric Poston 42:04 And it ruins your li- like now you're at home mad.

Joe Rogan 42:06 Yeah.

Deric Poston 42:06 Like it just ruins your day, your whole li- like everything's ruined.

Joe Rogan 42:10 And if someone does fail that you wanted to fail and you feel good, you should be embarrassed. You should be embarrassed by that feeling.

Deric Poston 42:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:19 You should be like, "What a weak bitch I am."

Deric Poston 42:21 Yeah, you get with the Sebastian. "You should be embarrassed."

Joe Rogan 42:23 "You should be embarrassed."

Deric Poston 42:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:27 You really should.

Deric Poston 42:28 You should, 100%, Joe.

Joe Rogan 42:29 But I think this is all like, uh, people need to learn this. You need to learn this and n- learn it in a way where it doesn't feel bad if you take it on. You don't feel like a fool, 'cause we've all been fools. I've been a fool.... everyone's in this room, everyone listening's been a fool.

Deric Poston 42:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:46 We've all been a fucking moron. That's how you learn and grow in life. But if you stick to the old ways, you'll just be unhappy and mentally ill.

Deric Poston 42:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:56 Yeah. Your therapist is not gonna save you. (laughs)

Deric Poston 43:00 (laughs) I mean, Joe, I learned... You, you might not even remember this. I learned a young... a lesson in young that in comedy, being young and just talking too much and just being kinda angry and wanting more as a door... and, and, uh, you talked to me. I don't know if you remember that. You got on me one time. "Hey, Derek, you gotta shut up, man." (laughs) I don't know if you remember you telling me to do this.

Joe Rogan 43:15 When was this? Was that at the store?

Deric Poston 43:16 This was, this was at the store, uh-

Joe Rogan 43:17 What were you complaining about?

Deric Poston 43:19 Ah, I was just running my mouth, complaining about I want more.

Joe Rogan 43:21 Yeah. (laughs)

Deric Poston 43:22 I just wanted more. I just wanted more, and I was talking too much. At the end of the day, you know, I, I, I wanna get into all the specifics, but I was talking too much. And you did that, and that was, uh, that was good. I needed that.

Joe Rogan 43:32 Yeah, sometimes-

Deric Poston 43:32 I needed to hear that.

Joe Rogan 43:33 ... w- we get wrapped up in our own shit. Like, the, the process is long. Like, if I was trying to tell someone right now to be a comic and they were like 26 years old, I'd be like, (sighs) "Okay. You ain't gonna be famous until you're 40."

Deric Poston 43:48 (laughs) Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:50 Like... (laughs) If you make it.

Deric Poston 43:51 If you, if-

Joe Rogan 43:52 If you make it. You know, you gotta be willing to throw it all away and you gotta be willing to go through this weird path where you want things and they're not happening and you get angry. And that's where you were.

Deric Poston 44:03 Yes.

Joe Rogan 44:03 You were... You wanted things. And I was like, "Derek, you gotta be undeniable."

Deric Poston 44:07 Yes.

Joe Rogan 44:07 "You gotta be undeniable. When you're undeniable, it's all gonna come your way. But all this talk is not good for anybody."

Deric Poston 44:13 Then it's crazy. You just don't... Uh, but it's... I'm glad I went through that. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 44:17 Right.

Deric Poston 44:17 I'm glad, uh, that, uh, that happened to me 'cause it was... At the time, it felt like, you know, you're like, "Uh." But man, I'm glad I went through that 'cause now it's just so much better to enjoy-

Joe Rogan 44:26 You appreciate it.

Deric Poston 44:27 ... appreciate it.

Joe Rogan 44:28 Yeah, and it's almost like you have to go through... I had those feelings. I remember being at an open mic night and I wasn't on the list. I couldn't get on the list. I was angry. Like, "Why can't I go up? This is bullshit."

Deric Poston 44:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:37 "I'm funnier than this person."

Deric Poston 44:39 (laughs) You start saying things like that-

Joe Rogan 44:40 And that person.

Deric Poston 44:40 And it's like, well, what is it?

Joe Rogan 44:41 Yeah. It's stupid. It's just like you just have to deal with the grind. It's like the part... It's part of the thing, part of the thing. It's like what makes you better. It's like those uncomfortable things, they build inside of you. Those uncomfortable moments and feelings, they add inspiration. They add determination. They add discipline. They make you focus more.

Deric Poston 44:59 Yes.

Joe Rogan 44:59 They make you listen to tapes. They make you go over your... You go, go through your notebook, you know.

Deric Poston 45:05 Man, I, I really appreciate those Comedy Store times. I mean, I think everyone should be... Not a door guy, but man, it just... It's good. I think it's just good for you to just sit and learn. You have no choice. You're there.

Joe Rogan 45:15 And what was dope about The Comedy Store too was the fact that, uh, there was a real attitude that everyone was a comic, including the door people.

Deric Poston 45:23 Yes.

Joe Rogan 45:24 The door people to me were me when I was 23. I was like, "What's up? What's going on, man?"

Deric Poston 45:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:28 "Everything cool?" Yeah.

Deric Poston 45:29 Met you. Big hug.

Joe Rogan 45:30 Yeah.

Deric Poston 45:30 First thing you said. "Yo, what's up, new guy?"

Joe Rogan 45:32 Always. (laughs)

Deric Poston 45:32 (laughs) Like, over here. I remember.

Joe Rogan 45:34 Yeah. (laughs)

Deric Poston 45:34 (laughs) I remember like it was yesterday, dude. All you guys. Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 45:37 Yeah.

Deric Poston 45:38 It... Uh, the coolest thing that I, I... One of the coolest things about standup that I learned from you, Joe, it was... So when I got there, you were finishing Triggered. Like you were, you, you were... That was about to come out.

Joe Rogan 45:46 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 45:46 So you were doing the... On the stool bit, the Caitlyn Jenner.

Joe Rogan 45:49 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 45:49 I mean-

Joe Rogan 45:49 Yeah.

Deric Poston 45:49 ... it was so tight. You were going cr- Standing O's every time you did it. It was nuts. Then The Special came out, and then you start gearing up for Strange Times. And the only person I've ever heard they say would do this was Richard Pryor, where he would come in after he dropped The Special and he would bang out material and you'd see it. For the first time, you're like, "Okay, I kinda see the skeleton." I saw the skeleton of Strange Times.

Joe Rogan 46:08 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 46:08 I'm like, "All right, I guess." And then the next day, you'd see the... A little bit of muscle on it. And then the next... You didn't... You never abandoned it. Even though it wasn't hitting like how the other stuff was hitting, or some nights it wasn't going as well as maybe you wanted it to, you never abandoned it. You never were like, "Oh, I'm gonna do crowd work. Oh, I'm gonna say an old bit and get out of this." No. And then ev- and then I saw Strange Times become Strange Times, and that was amazing to see, Joe.

Joe Rogan 46:30 It takes a long time to get a bit going, and if you bail on it when you fir... Every one of my bits, except for a few, sucked in the beginning. There's just... They're clunky.

Deric Poston 46:40 Yes.

Joe Rogan 46:41 You don't know how to do it right.

Deric Poston 46:42 You can see you were trying to find it, y- you know?

Joe Rogan 46:44 Oh, it's a terrible process. It's a terrible, it's a terrible process. It really is. It's a terrible process. Brian Simpson did it the smartest way. What Brian did was he had his whole hour laid out, and then before he filmed his hour, he created a new hour. So he started adding material to the set over the course of a year till he had another hour. And so then he films the special and he's got an extra hour. (laughs)

Deric Poston 47:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:09 That's Brian Simpson.

Deric Poston 47:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:11 That's Brian Simp- Brian Simpson plans for the future. He has his socks laid out by his bed.

Deric Poston 47:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:15 You know what I'm saying?

Deric Poston 47:16 No, Brian doesn't have his socks laid out.

Joe Rogan 47:16 That dude is, that dude's playing... He's planning for the future.

Deric Poston 47:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:21 Brian gave me a book on what to do if the world collapses. He gave us all that book.

Deric Poston 47:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:25 You know?

Deric Poston 47:25 The, the... (laughs) Like The, The Book of Man or-

Joe Rogan 47:27 Yeah.

Deric Poston 47:27 ... you know.

Joe Rogan 47:27 Whatever it is, The, The Book.

Deric Poston 47:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:29 It's called... I think it's called The Book.

Deric Poston 47:30 The Book, yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:30 But it's how to rebuild society. I was like, "What the fuck are you planning, Brian?" (laughs)

Deric Poston 47:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:36 Brian's got books planned on how to save society.

Deric Poston 47:40 Yeah. He's, he's one of one, man.

Joe Rogan 47:42 Yeah. We're, we're real lucky. We're real lucky. And he's another guy that came out here real early.

Deric Poston 47:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:47 So when everybody was out here early, you know, I, I had gone through this thing where I had the first club and the, the, the, the deal fell apart, the Cult House.

Deric Poston 47:57 The Cult House.

Joe Rogan 47:57 Yeah. Goddamn, I'm glad we didn't get that one. That would have ruined everything.

Deric Poston 48:01 Yeah, that would not have been as...

Joe Rogan 48:03 No.

Deric Poston 48:03 'Cause the placement of this one.

Joe Rogan 48:05 It's perfect. The fact that it's on that maniac street.

Deric Poston 48:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:09 Yeah, that street's alive, dude.

Deric Poston 48:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:11 That street's alive.

Deric Poston 48:11 When you... Right, I like that, 'cause as an audience member, when you get there-

Joe Rogan 48:14 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 48:14 ... you're like-

Joe Rogan 48:15 Yeah.

Deric Poston 48:15 ... you're now awake. You don't get to wander in. Like it's not in a mall or some shit. It's like, "No, you're awake now."

Joe Rogan 48:20 But when the deal fell through with the Cult place and then we walked into that movie theater, when it was a movie theater still-

Deric Poston 48:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:25 ... I remember walking in there going, "Oh, shit." Like, "Okay, so this is it." It was so clear. It was like you hear a sound in the distance of the direction you're supposed to go to. You hear boom. Like, "Okay, here we go." That's how it felt. It really felt like that. It felt like, "Goddamn, man, this place is alive." This place has like... It's got memories baked into it.

Deric Poston 48:49 Yes. Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Joe Rogan 48:51 Stevie Ray Vaughan. Steve Ray Vaughan was on that stage. Willie Nelson was on that stage.

Deric Poston 48:54 S- Willie Nelson was on that stage?

Joe Rogan 48:55 Yeah, man. All those dudes in the green room, all those posters are in the green room.

Deric Poston 48:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:59 Those are all real shows from the Ritz.... yeah.

Deric Poston 49:02 I did not know that.

Joe Rogan 49:03 Yeah, man. A lot, a lot of bands played there, a lot of bands. Yeah.

Deric Poston 49:08 So you could feel it in the walls.

Joe Rogan 49:09 There's a lot of things happen in that place. It used to be a pool hall, it used to be a nudie movie theater at one point in time.

Deric Poston 49:15 Oh, there's jizz in there, bro.

Joe Rogan 49:17 (laughs) Buckets of jizz.

Deric Poston 49:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:19 There's, um... It was a movie theater for the longest time, where it was a Alamo Drafthouse. That was like-

Deric Poston 49:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:25 ... more than 10 years. It was a, it was a lot of things, you know. It was a punk rock bar at one point in time. You know, it was a-

Deric Poston 49:33 Wow.

Joe Rogan 49:33 That place has got history. It's from 1827.

Deric Poston 49:37 Have you?

Joe Rogan 49:37 Or 19- 1927, right? Is that right?

Narrator 49:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:41 1927. Yeah, 1927. 1927. It's a hundred years old, essentially, or close to it.

Deric Poston 49:46 I mean, it's very Comedy Store vibes in that 'cause the Comedy Store used to be Ciro's.

Joe Rogan 49:49 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 49:50 And it was like where the mafia would be.

Joe Rogan 49:51 Yeah.

Deric Poston 49:51 And like all these cool weird stories.

Joe Rogan 49:53 Yeah.

Deric Poston 49:53 And you can feel the building, you can feel it.

Joe Rogan 49:55 Yeah.

Deric Poston 49:55 And that, y- you know, this does have that- Mitzi's feels, you can feel it at Mitzi's late night. It's f- like-

Joe Rogan 50:00 Yeah.

Deric Poston 50:00 ... the energy in that is awesome.

Joe Rogan 50:01 Well, it's also the energy's been baked in just in the year that we've been open.

Deric Poston 50:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:05 Bro, that year flew by.

Deric Poston 50:08 Okay.

Joe Rogan 50:08 That year flew by. It flew by.

Deric Poston 50:12 It did.

Joe Rogan 50:12 Flew by. It makes me think, I'm gonna be dead real soon.

Deric Poston 50:15 (laughs) I told you that.

Joe Rogan 50:16 (laughs) I don't have much time. How much time do you have?

Deric Poston 50:19 (laughs) I go over stuff.

Joe Rogan 50:20 If I go through 50 more of those, it'll be a miracle. So it's not, that's not gonna happen.

Deric Poston 50:25 I know.

Joe Rogan 50:25 Not go through 50 of them. It's not possible.

Deric Poston 50:28 Wow. And d- did you think that-

Joe Rogan 50:29 Bless 'em.

Deric Poston 50:29 ... when you set it up, like, "I'm setting this up for when I'm gone, this baby, th- this... Like the Comedy Store, it'll just run."

Joe Rogan 50:35 We- well, I want... I didn't think that. No.

Deric Poston 50:37 Wow.

Joe Rogan 50:38 I just thought, set up the best thing you can set up. That's all I thought. I thought like, I have this (clears throat) c- crazy unique moment where not only did the world shut down and Texas didn't, but also all these comedians came out here to do shows, and I have this Spotify deal. And I'm like, "Okay. I'm supposed to do this." Like, if anybody's supposed to do this, like if you were a kid and they said to you, "If you got all this money, what would you do?" "You know what I'd do? I'd make the ultimate amusement park."

Deric Poston 51:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:07 (laughs)

Deric Poston 51:07 "Just to be with my friends."

Joe Rogan 51:09 You know? But nobody ever does that. You know, like people get fuck you money and they never say fuck you. And I don't get that. Like if you have fuck you money and you don't say fuck you, y- y- what you're doing is... I- it's a crime against fortune. You have the, the incredible fortune to have fuck you money. The incredible luck, the incredible-

Deric Poston 51:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:31 ... fortune to be in this weird position where all these comedians decided to come to this place because you and your friends were there. I mean, we were, uh... Like Ron White's the, he's the fucking leader of the pack.

Deric Poston 51:43 Pied Piper.

Joe Rogan 51:44 He's the Pied Piper, 'cause Ron was out here before COVID. Ron was out here in like 2017, I think, or '18.

Deric Poston 51:52 Was he retired yet already or no?

Joe Rogan 51:53 Well, he wasn't retired-

Deric Poston 51:54 Okay.

Joe Rogan 51:54 ... but he was, he was like, "I fly out of Austin. It's much easier. You're in the middle. You can fly, it's fucking two and a half hours to New York, two and a half hours to LA. Fucking people are nice. Food's amazing." I was like, "Damn, maybe I could..." 'Cause I had always entertained leaving LA, but the store just always kept me there.

Deric Poston 52:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:11 The store and my friends.

Deric Poston 52:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:13 Jujitsu. I mean, I tried for a while, tried moving to Colorado for a little bit, but the store always pulled me back. It's like, that, there's... You can't replicate that.

Deric Poston 52:22 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 52:22 It's just-

Deric Poston 52:23 At least, you did.

Joe Rogan 52:24 Yeah. Well, that's why it felt like it... There's no other way it could have ever happened. It had, all those things had to happen in place, where The Comedy Store had to get shut down so we can get all the people that worked at The Comedy Store to come over and start the mothership. People that, like Eric and-

Deric Poston 52:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:36 ... Kurtis and Adam and-

Deric Poston 52:39 Jodi.

Joe Rogan 52:39 Yeah, and Jodi and, um, and, and-

Deric Poston 52:42 Carrie.

Joe Rogan 52:42 Carrie. Carrie's the shit.

Deric Poston 52:43 Oh, Carrie.

Joe Rogan 52:43 Like if it wasn't for Carrie-

Deric Poston 52:44 Her mom.

Joe Rogan 52:45 She's the best.

Deric Poston 52:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:46 But she was always the best at the store. So when she's over there, it's like, "Oh, this is wonderful." You know, and then she, uh, knew all the right servers. And then, you know, we get this vibe going, and then the whole idea... And Adam's-

Deric Poston 52:57 You guys.

Joe Rogan 52:58 It was Adam's idea to do it the same way the store was. I was a little apprehensive, like, "Man, comics cause problems with their employees." Like a lot of us are dirt bags.

Deric Poston 53:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:06 A lot of us are crazy.

Deric Poston 53:08 Joe, I robbed The Comedy Store.

Joe Rogan 53:11 (laughs)

Narrator 53:11 (laughs)

Deric Poston 53:11 I robbed that fucking place.

Joe Rogan 53:14 Do you hear this? Listen.

Deric Poston 53:17 Like what? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:18 Shh.

Deric Poston 53:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:18 Shh.

Deric Poston 53:18 Now I'm joking.

Joe Rogan 53:18 It'll be back in Headline, I'll make it up for you.

Deric Poston 53:18 Uh, yeah, no problem. I'll make it up. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:20 Yeah. You know, it might not.

Deric Poston 53:20 But it wasn't just me, baby. Hassan, Brian, we all owe you money. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:23 Oh, yeah.

Deric Poston 53:23 We owe... But, but, but-

Joe Rogan 53:24 I'm sure.

Deric Poston 53:24 ... you were just hustling. I mean, I mean we're hustling 'cause it's like, "Well, I'm only making a couple bucks. I didn't get up."

Joe Rogan 53:28 Yeah.

Deric Poston 53:28 "I'm gonna fucking hustle this door."

Joe Rogan 53:29 Trying to stay alive.

Deric Poston 53:30 Trying to stay alive. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:31 Yeah. I mean, but the, there was that problem that was like... But Adam was like, "Yeah, but you know what? There's something really cool about people l- like auditioning." And because now Adam was running it, so we didn't have to have this... Like, we, I... This is one of the things that I told him. Because th- there's a pressure that he had in LA to, to have like X amount of women and X amount of gay people. Like people talked about it.

Deric Poston 53:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:57 And they would email him. They'd complain to him. People would confront him. You know, "How come you don't have more women on your lineup?" Girls, girl comics would say. I said, "Listen, man. This is 100% meritocracy. I know you're not sexist. I know you're not racist. I know you're not homophobic. You don't care."

Deric Poston 54:14 Yup.

Joe Rogan 54:14 "All you care, but you speak the language of funny. This is, will be a pure meritocracy. And if you're really good, you're gonna get through, and if you're bullshitting and just using whatever the fuck group you're a part of as like a Willy Wonka golden ticket-"

Deric Poston 54:30 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 54:30 "... thinking it's gonna get you a career, fuck you. Okay? That shit doesn't work here."

Deric Poston 54:34 Yup.

Joe Rogan 54:35 You know?

Deric Poston 54:35 I love that. And with that, there is a d- the best way to make a diverse show is, just like you said, put the funniest people up. The show will naturally-

Joe Rogan 54:43 Yes.

Deric Poston 54:43 It will naturally diversify itself, baby.

Joe Rogan 54:45 We have so many different people working there. Everybody's different.

Deric Poston 54:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:49 And different in all kinds of ways. There's gay and straight and there's Black and white and Asian.

Deric Poston 54:55 Brown.

Joe Rogan 54:55 No one fucking cares.

Deric Poston 54:56 Yup. I don't even notice it, 'cause all we think of is funny.

Joe Rogan 54:58 No one cares. No one cares.

Deric Poston 54:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:59 No one cares. All that cares, are you funny?

Deric Poston 55:02 Yup.

Joe Rogan 55:03 ... can you go up there and do the damn thing?

Deric Poston 55:05 A- Hasan did 9/11, no one gives a fuck.

Joe Rogan 55:07 (laughs)

Deric Poston 55:07 He's just a funny dude. We all just forgive him. It's how funny that piece of shit is. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:13 (laughs) Ah, boy, he's come a long way, man.

Deric Poston 55:15 That dude.

Joe Rogan 55:15 Joey Diaz was just telling me on the phone yesterday, I was on the phone with Joey yesterday. He's like, "Bro, Hasan blew my mind." He goes, "He blew my mind. I remember that kid when he was just starting out." (exhales)

Deric Poston 55:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:25 He goes, "He's out there, he's fucking..." Joey's coming, he's coming.

Deric Poston 55:28 Joey's moving.

Joe Rogan 55:29 He's coming again in a c- in a couple weeks. He's gonna be back. He's gonna be back for quite a while, and then, uh, we're gonna get him a place. H- he's gonna get a place on... just in the neighborhood.

Deric Poston 55:39 He's moving, Joe.

Joe Rogan 55:40 He's gotta move here.

Deric Poston 55:41 He's moving.

Joe Rogan 55:41 He can't stay in New Jersey. And all s- Now, all due respect to New Jersey, but... All due respect. He needs to be around his peers.

Deric Poston 55:47 You saw it. When he was here you could feel it on him, man.

Joe Rogan 55:49 Yeah. Oh, 100%.

Deric Poston 55:49 And as the days went, how much more comfortable, like, he... Oh, he started moving like Joey D, when Joey would be in the, in the main room-

Joe Rogan 55:55 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 55:55 ... and it was like that when he left Fatman. Where it was like-

Joe Rogan 55:57 Yeah.

Deric Poston 55:57 ... "Oh, he's, he's F- he's in. He's back."

Joe Rogan 55:59 Yeah.

Deric Poston 55:59 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 56:00 His wife's down too. She gets it. She's the best. (Joe exhales) She's the best. So it's perfect. So when Joey gets here, that'll change everything. Goddamn, that's gonna change everything.

Deric Poston 56:11 Joe, it's already crazy.

Joe Rogan 56:11 I've been working on Theo. Theo's coming soon. He's gonna be here... What's today? He's gonna be here in 10 days. (chair creaks) Yeah. So we'll have Theo here for a couple weeks, and then-

Deric Poston 56:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:22 ... Theo said he, he might come down for the whole month of July.

Deric Poston 56:25 You're fucking Samuel L. Jackson with The Avengers, baby.

Joe Rogan 56:27 (laughs)

Deric Poston 56:27 You're just Nick Fury. You're just getting them all, rounding them up.

Joe Rogan 56:31 Yeah, I'm- I'm recruiting, man. I'm recruiting. But I only want people that wanna be here. Like, if you don't wanna be here, it's like, I get it, I get it, I get it. There's no pressure. You don't have to come here. But it would be nice. It's fun. Joe DeRosa got a place here. Joe DeRosa-

Deric Poston 56:43 Love DeRosa.

Joe Rogan 56:44 ... is here now. Let's go.

Deric Poston 56:45 DeRosa's the man.

Joe Rogan 56:46 DeRosa's here.

Deric Poston 56:46 Everyone you're saying, but everyone you're saying also, great, phenomenal beast of a comic.

Joe Rogan 56:50 Yeah, and nice people. That's-

Deric Poston 56:51 Great people.

Joe Rogan 56:51 That's the big thing. The big thing is all real friendly, real nice people. And the more, more of that, the better. And there's plenty of spots. There's so many clubs, and Red Band's Club's killing it, and it's-

Deric Poston 57:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:01 You get... How lo- uh, was it a 13-second walk from my club to Red Band's Club?

Deric Poston 57:06 Yep. You can get up, you can get on three times.

Joe Rogan 57:07 Yeah, Sunset Strip right, right next door. Uh, Creek in the Cave, always a great room.

Deric Poston 57:11 Yep.

Joe Rogan 57:11 Right n- right down the street, a block away.

Deric Poston 57:12 This little place, Black Rabbit, which I, uh, love. Right there, you can go get up. I mean, they're all within a block.

Joe Rogan 57:17 Black Rabbit's doing stand-up now?

Deric Poston 57:18 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:18 How long have they been doing stand-up?

Deric Poston 57:19 I don't know how long they've been open, but, uh, that's where me and Hasan... I mean, it's just such a little 50-seat box.

Joe Rogan 57:25 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 57:26 So me and Hasan just love that little spot.

Joe Rogan 57:27 And, bro, The Vulcan is still a banger of a club. Shout-out to The Vulcan.

Deric Poston 57:31 Yep, we s-

Joe Rogan 57:31 If you can get up there, that's a great fucking show.

Deric Poston 57:32 Bro, The Vulcan is a great room. And then you can drive over to Cap City. I mean-

Joe Rogan 57:36 That place kept us alive.

Deric Poston 57:39 (laughs) Joe, it's-

Joe Rogan 57:39 Right?

Deric Poston 57:40 ... it was the o- it kept blood in us, bro.

Joe Rogan 57:41 That place was like a mask that we were all sharing, like scuba diving.

Deric Poston 57:48 (laughs) Just... (exhales)

Joe Rogan 57:49 We'd give it to each other.

Deric Poston 57:50 Yeah. (exhales)

Joe Rogan 57:51 We were staying alive, you know? That place kept us alive.

Deric Poston 57:54 Those shows, those Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursdays, just l- h- eh, t- two, three, Wednesday, just getting it through.

Joe Rogan 57:57 Yeah.

Deric Poston 57:57 Getting it through.

Joe Rogan 57:58 Yeah. That, that place kept us alive. And then of course Kill Tony.

Deric Poston 58:02 Yep.

Joe Rogan 58:02 Having Kill Tony in a town changes the town, because now all that... There's all these temptations to go down the road of fuckery when you're first on stage.

Deric Poston 58:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:11 You wanna try to, like, make yourself out to be something you wish you were. You want people to think you're smart. You want people to think you're cool. And if you have five minutes, sometimes five minutes is too much in the beginning. You really don't deserve five minutes.

Deric Poston 58:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:24 You deserve a minute.

Deric Poston 58:25 (laughs) Just think-

Joe Rogan 58:26 You deserve one minute. There should be a bunch of people doing one minute. And then it should be like belts. Like, you're a white belt. You just started out. Okay, you've been doing comedy six months, eight months, maybe you're ready for your blue belt. Depends on how much you're getting on stage. And then a couple years after that, now you're a purple belt. Now you're opening up for really good comics-

Deric Poston 58:43 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:43 ... when they're on the road. You know, this guy's in town, you're gonna open for him.

Deric Poston 58:46 Yep.

Joe Rogan 58:46 Colin Quinn wants you to open for him. Oh, shit, now you're purple belt. Now you start going on the road as a middle act. Now you're a brown belt. You know, now you might have 20 murderous minutes, you know? A min- you might be doing stand-up six, seven years. You're a brown belt now. And then eventually, you move into headlining, and then you get your black belt. And then you realize like, "Oh, people are coming to see me. Okay. (exhales) I gotta go to work."

Deric Poston 59:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:10 "You know, they're coming to see me."

Deric Poston 59:11 That's a different thing.

Joe Rogan 59:12 You have to be like, "Sit down." You know? Like, i- it has to take pre-... Like, I will run away from a conversation if I get an idea, 'cause I know they're slippery. They're slippery.

Deric Poston 59:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:21 They slip through your fingers sometimes. Sometimes you just have a great idea, you're like, "Ah. Uh..." Like, my family gets it. My wife gets it. I go, "Hang on, I got an idea. I have an idea." I just have to say, "I have an idea," and everybody leaves me room, and I just run away. I run away so no one can talk to me, and then I grab my phone, and I just start either talking into it, which is best because then I can keep it quicker, or I start writing it.

Deric Poston 59:41 That's beautiful, bro.

Joe Rogan 59:42 Yeah.

Deric Poston 59:42 I've seen you do that, where you're just completely... (whoosh)

Joe Rogan 59:44 You know what Neal Brennan said to me once? He said, "I think of, uh, my notebook as like a net that I catch my ideas in." I was like, "Ooh."

Deric Poston 59:53 Wow.

Joe Rogan 59:53 Ooh, Neal Brennan's a smart motherfucker. That's a great, that's a great quote.

Deric Poston 59:58 That is, 'cause it's-

Joe Rogan 59:58 'Cause it's exactly what it is. It's a net.

Deric Poston 1:00:00 The moment you do the thing where you're like, "Oh," you think of something and are like, "I'm gonna write it down later."

Joe Rogan 1:00:03 Yeah.

Deric Poston 1:00:04 It's gone.

Joe Rogan 1:00:04 Bro, you know why I've been thinking about going to Android? 'Cause Samsung phones, when you, um... if you record your sets-

Deric Poston 1:00:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:11 ... it transcribes them.

Deric Poston 1:00:13 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:00:14 Yeah, with AI. And it'll summarize it for you. Crazy.

Deric Poston 1:00:19 (laughs) That's fucking-

Joe Rogan 1:00:19 Yeah, Brian Simpson's right about that too.

Deric Poston 1:00:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:22 He's got that fucking Galaxy phone.

Deric Poston 1:00:23 He does.

Joe Rogan 1:00:23 Tony's always making fun of him, and I'm like, "Tony, do you understand what that phone can do?" That phone can translate... Like, built into the phone, can translate you talking to, uh, a ton of different languages. Like instantaneously translate.

Deric Poston 1:00:36 Why are we still on iPhones?

Joe Rogan 1:00:37 Because we're trapped.

Deric Poston 1:00:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:39 Also, it's a safer operating system. That's the thing that I've been really getting into. I've been really, like, researching, like, exploits, and, um, I watched, uh, I- I've watched quite a few videos. But I also, uh, read a story where they were talking about when they were trying to see... They had an iPhone and an Android phone, and they checked to see which one was contacting foreign servers based on the apps.... and it was, like, way more the Android. (slaps table) The Android was contacting foreign servers way more, contacting China and Russia, and the iPhone one was, like, one or two a day. And it's based on ... There's a lot of shit going on that we're not thinking about, right? Y- what you're, what you're interested in is valuable, so if you're scrolling through Google and you're looking at a bunch of different products, you're looking at a bunch of different things, Google gets that information and it inserts those ads into your browser. So that when you go to a website and you say, like, "Oh, I was looking at those shoes."

Deric Poston 1:01:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:38 "How are those shoes for sale right here?" It's just click here, you know? It tells you the price.

Deric Poston 1:01:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:42 Like, "Ooh, what a bargain," and you think about it. That's valuable, right? And so that's what they're constantly trying to scoop up. They're trying to scoop up your data. They wanna know what you're doing, what you're listening to, what you're watching. What do you, what do you w-... Well, you got Netflix? What do you... You got this, you got that? Do you got YouTube Premium? What do you got? Do you got money?

Deric Poston 1:01:59 (inhales deeply)

Joe Rogan 1:01:59 Are you broke? You got a Tesla? Ooh, he's got a Tesla. He got a Tesla app. There's... So there's all this data that your phone carries, and iPhone is pretty good at keeping that data inside your phone.

Deric Poston 1:02:09 They're like a closed system, right? Isn't that what they call themselves?

Joe Rogan 1:02:12 Yeah, walled garden. Yeah. Android's not so good at that. Android is the opposite, it seems like. It's, it's got open source, which is really good, so a bunch of different people can make apps. But the problem with that is you could get apps that are malware. You can get apps that will get... That will infect... You're a wild motherfucker just downloading every app that's on the Play Store. I don't think they do as good a job. And I think you can... Can't you side load on Androids as well?

Narrator 1:02:41 Probably. (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 1:02:43 So there's pros and cons, man. There's pros to, like... If you make an Android app, like, you could just say, "You know, why isn't there a fucking app for this?"

Deric Poston 1:02:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:50 And you could design an app that does it, and then just throw it up on the Play Store, and people could just download it and put it... But you could be a criminal-

Deric Poston 1:02:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:57 ... and you could put some shit on, on, you know, either side loading or put some shit on, you know, one of these places where you can download apps. And inside that is... Someone could just steal all your credit card information on your phone if you're using, like, you know, Google Pay or what the fuck you use.

Deric Poston 1:03:12 Some Goo-... Random Google thing, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:13 Or PayPal or some shit. Just, there's apps that can, they can... When you sign up for TikTok, they can... They know your keystrokes. They know all your keystrokes. So everything you type, it knows.

Deric Poston 1:03:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:28 Not only that, it has access to computers that don't have TikTok on them that are on the network. So if you, you have a computer-

Deric Poston 1:03:37 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:03:37 ... but your computer doesn't have TikTok, but you have TikTok on your phone-

Deric Poston 1:03:39 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 1:03:39 ... they have access to your computer. I know that sounds crazy. That sounds like that couldn't be real.

Deric Poston 1:03:44 That... Joe-

Joe Rogan 1:03:45 Yeah.

Deric Poston 1:03:45 ... w- why would they do that?

Narrator 1:03:46 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:03:46 I think it's more than them, and this is what Adam Curry said. Like, Adam Curry was saying, like, there's this, uh, TikTok ban. He goes, "Believe me." He goes, "The real problem with TikTok is that they're doing a better job of keeping people addicted," and that they don't like the idea that China is dominating this social media game.

Deric Poston 1:04:03 Yeah. TikTok's good.

Joe Rogan 1:04:04 It's good. It, they've figured out a way to make it very, very, very addictive. But they're getting data, constant data, off what you like, what you're interested in, what you get mad about, what you comment on, how you comment, what you like, with hearts, you know, what you-

Deric Poston 1:04:21 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:21 ... yeah, what you keep going back to and don't tell anybody about.

Deric Poston 1:04:25 (laughs)

Narrator 1:04:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:27 Yeah. (laughs) If you look in your fucking-

Narrator 1:04:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:29 If you look in your, your, your search-

Deric Poston 1:04:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:32 ... and it's all butts.

Deric Poston 1:04:33 It's all fat- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:34 Guess what?

Deric Poston 1:04:35 ... butts, baby.

Joe Rogan 1:04:36 It's all fat butts. That's 'cause you like fat butts-

Deric Poston 1:04:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:37 ... and they know you like fat butts, you know?

Deric Poston 1:04:40 (laughs) If they can feed you.

Joe Rogan 1:04:40 Yeah, I look at other peoples' feeds. They're very, very different than mine. If you look in that, like, search-

Deric Poston 1:04:44 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:45 ... area on Instagram, like, it's basically they know me. They know what I like.

Deric Poston 1:04:49 Yep.

Joe Rogan 1:04:50 Animal attacks.

Deric Poston 1:04:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:51 Fast cars.

Deric Poston 1:04:53 Paranoid parents getting kicked (laughs) in the face.

Joe Rogan 1:04:54 Kids getting kicked in the face. Nice butts.

Deric Poston 1:04:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:57 Yeah. It's like, um... But that data's super, super, super valuable, and it, and it, uh, it's all on, like, uh, how does one get access to that data? You know, do you get to access through some sneaky backdoor shit or do you get access the normal way? And, but Apple does a better job of protecting your information, I think.

Deric Poston 1:05:16 Yeah. And you know what I think too, Joe, why we don't wanna change? It's something about the blue.

Joe Rogan 1:05:22 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 1:05:23 I don't know what-

Joe Rogan 1:05:23 They got us.

Deric Poston 1:05:24 I- i- it's something about-

Joe Rogan 1:05:25 Yeah.

Deric Poston 1:05:25 I send a blue to you and I get a blue back.

Joe Rogan 1:05:27 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 1:05:27 I like that.

Joe Rogan 1:05:28 Yeah, we're on the same team.

Deric Poston 1:05:29 We're on the