Joe Rogan Experience #2149 - Sebastian Maniscalco

1. 0:00 – 1:51

   Austin studio tour talk: futuristic chairs, metal cups, and Joe’s “future” setup

   1. SMSebastian Maniscalco0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. (rock music)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Hello, Sebastian.

   4. SMSebastian Maniscalco0:14

      Hello, Joe.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      (laughs)

   6. SMSebastian Maniscalco0:15

      (laughs) It's my first time here-

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Yeah.

   8. SMSebastian Maniscalco0:20

      ... at the Austin property.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Yes.

   10. SMSebastian Maniscalco0:22

       Right? And (sighs) first of all, most comfortable chair I've ever sat in. I don't know.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       They're great, right?

   12. SMSebastian Maniscalco0:29

       I, I don't know. I feel like, uh, when I come here or when I come do this podcast, it's my third time on it, I feel like I'm in the future.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Mm. Mm.

   14. SMSebastian Maniscalco0:37

       All right? I feel like you got things that aren't even out yet, right? I just feel like this chair, the, the general public can't even have access to them yet.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       No, but they do. We've had these for years.

   16. SMSebastian Maniscalco0:48

       Well, whatever they are.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       These are great.

   18. SMSebastian Maniscalco0:50

       (laughs) They're beau-... Then, I feel like, I, I've never, I never drank water out of a-

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Metal cup?

   20. SMSebastian Maniscalco0:58

       Yeah. And I feel like-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       We're sustainable here. (laughs)

   22. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:01

       (laughs) I feel like there's a reason for everything-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Yeah.

   24. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:05

       ... that you do, right? Like-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       But there's definitely a reason for metal cups. You really shouldn't be drinking outta plastic.

   26. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:10

       Okay.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       Yeah.

   28. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:10

       Again...

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       I mean, I do, I drink b- uh, plastic water bottles if someone gives me one, but I avoid them whenever I can.

   30. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:17

       Y- yeah. I mean, of course, we all, we all know, oh, the plastics, we're not-
2. 1:51 – 3:57

   Mammoth teeth and jarred dirt: regenerative vs. industrial soil

   1. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:51

      And then you got a whole... And, and I don't know if anybody's ever talked about your area-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:56

      Talk garbage.

   3. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:56

      ... on your, on your side of, of the table.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:59

      Yeah.

   5. SMSebastian Maniscalco2:00

      Uh, uh, there's just so much shit going on over there.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:02

      It's a lot going on.

   7. SMSebastian Maniscalco2:03

      Right? There's tins. There's, uh-

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:05

      I have mammoth teeth.

   9. SMSebastian Maniscalco2:06

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:07

       I got a arrowhead, a real legit arrowhead. It's probably 500,000 years old.

   11. SMSebastian Maniscalco2:13

       You got soil on your bookshelf out there.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       Yes, there's soil.

   13. SMSebastian Maniscalco2:19

       What, how do you... I've not never seen anybody jar soil before.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:21

       Well, that was from a gentleman, um, uh, who runs White Oaks Pastures. His name is Will Harris, and he, um, he has this amazing, uh, farm. It's a regenerative farm, and he gave us two, uh, pieces of soil to-

   15. SMSebastian Maniscalco2:37

       What are you doing? What's wrong with you?

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:37

       (laughs) Was that Carl barking? He wants to fight. He, he didn't get enough, uh, biting me this morning. (laughs)

   17. SMSebastian Maniscalco2:42

       (laughs)

   18. NANarrator2:43

       One more. One more outburst.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:44

       Carl's, Carl's getting hard, dude. He bit my finger. That was a real yipe that I, when he bit me this morning, I was like, "Yo." Carl goes after you.

   20. SMSebastian Maniscalco2:52

       No, yeah, he went after me.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:54

       But anyway, that soil, one of them is, uh, uh, a jar of regenerative soil, which means soil that is how a farm is supposed to be run, where there's manure and chickens, and all the animals just ruminate, and they, they live off the land in a natural way, and it's a deep, rich, dark soil. And the other soil, which is pale, is, that's industrial soil. That's soil that's been used with industrial fertilizers, and the top soil's dead, and it's just garbage, which is most of what we eat.

   22. SMSebastian Maniscalco3:25

       See, the difference between you and I is you actually remember what the soil does and what-

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:33

       It sorta...

   24. SMSebastian Maniscalco3:33

       If somebody gave me soil-

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:34

       Yeah.

   26. SMSebastian Maniscalco3:34

       ... if somebody gave me soil, and you said, "You got soil?" Like I got, yeah, if somebody gave me dirt-

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:38

       (laughs)

   28. SMSebastian Maniscalco3:38

       ... and I wouldn't know the difference between the two.

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       You see, the dark dirt is the good dirt.

   30. SMSebastian Maniscalco3:43

       (laughs)
3. 3:57 – 4:45

   Spending money, taste, and the Cartier watch conversation

   1. SMSebastian Maniscalco3:57

      And, and, and, and again, your... Coming and taking a tour of this place is inspiring. Uh, you make me want to spend money.

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:10

      Mm.

   3. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:10

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:10

      You should spend money. You definitely should spend money.

   5. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:13

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan4:13

      'Cause if you don't spend money, like, what's the point in having it?

   7. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:16

      I know. I wish I could get there, but you, you def-

   8. JRJoe Rogan4:17

      Come on, bro. Look at that watch. You're balling. Look at that thing.

   9. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:20

      Yeah, this is, this is a-

   10. JRJoe Rogan4:20

       What is that?

   11. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:21

       My, my wife gave me this for our wedding.

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:23

       That's a beautiful watch. What is that?

   13. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:24

       It's a Cartier watch for our wedding.

   14. JRJoe Rogan4:26

       Oh, that's gorgeous.

   15. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:26

       Thank you, thank you.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:27

       Let me see that. Let me look at that real quick. Ooh, that's a pretty watch.

   17. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:30

       It's a-

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:30

       That is a lovely watch.

   19. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:31

       Well, thank you, Joe. I appreciate it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:33

       Yeah.

   21. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:34

       Um, yeah, she gave me this for our wedding gift.

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:36

       Very nice.

   23. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:37

       But yeah, I-

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:37

       Your wife's got taste. It's-

   25. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:38

       Yeah, she does.

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:39

       ... obviously.

   27. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:39

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:40

       Look at you.

   29. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:40

       She got a lot... (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:42

       You handsome bastard.
4. 4:45 – 7:05

   Custom suits, Vegas “Rat Pack” energy, and the downside of midsection weight

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:45

      I know. Yeah, I let my wife pick out almost everything. When I have nice sneakers on, it's generally my wife bought them.

   2. SMSebastian Maniscalco4:51

      Does your, does your wife, uh, comment on your, uh, clothing?

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:56

      She does, but she leaves me alone for the most part. But she'll, she'll dress me occasionally if I have to go out, but I'm basically, I'm a fucking teenager.

   4. SMSebastian Maniscalco5:05

      Yeah. Well, yeah, you gotta got, like, a T-shirt-

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:06

      Yeah.

   6. SMSebastian Maniscalco5:06

      ... like a je- shirtsuit and T-shirt guy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:09

      I wear T-shirts.

   8. SMSebastian Maniscalco5:09

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:10

      They're comfortable. I wear jeans. They're comfortable, you know. I don't really give a fuck.

   10. SMSebastian Maniscalco5:13

       I don't think I've ever seen you in a suit.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:16

       I wear suits.

   12. SMSebastian Maniscalco5:17

       Yeah?

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:17

       Yeah, yeah. I have some nice suits. I have... David August made me a whole... I have, like, a whole row in my office, I mean, in my, uh, in my house, in my, my closet, filled with suits. Yeah, I got a bunch of custom-made suits.

   14. SMSebastian Maniscalco5:28

       All right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:28

       'Cause I can't wear regular suits. I don't fit in them, you know. There's not a lot of 200-pound, five-eight dudes. Just very odd-shaped-

   16. SMSebastian Maniscalco5:36

       (laughs) They d- they don't make clothing for... (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:38

       ... chimp, chimp-sized suits. Short dudes who are really wide-

   18. SMSebastian Maniscalco5:41

       Jumpmanze collection.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:42

       Yeah. It's so... But it's a, a nice fitted suit is a fucking wonderful thing to have 'cause it just fits you perfect.

   20. SMSebastian Maniscalco5:47

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:48

       With all the cuffs and everything. You feel different, you put it on, you know. We, uh, all the boys, uh, we, we did a show in Vegas. We did the MGM, the Grand Garden Arena, and we did, uh, me and Brian Simpson and Tony Hinchcliffe and Hans Kim, and we, I got them all suits. I said, "Let's all get, like, we're doing Vegas. Come on, let's do it Rat Pack style." So we got some of these beautiful David August suits and Jamie got one too.... it was incredible.

   22. SMSebastian Maniscalco6:10

       Nice.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:11

       It was so much fun.

   24. SMSebastian Maniscalco6:12

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:12

       Yeah, it's nice. You wear, you feel different when you show up with a suit on.

   26. SMSebastian Maniscalco6:15

       You do feel different, however, I-

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:17

       Look at that, that's us. (inhales deeply)

   28. SMSebastian Maniscalco6:18

       Oh, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:19

       Come on, son.

   30. SMSebastian Maniscalco6:19

       That's nice, that's a nice-
5. 7:05 – 9:12

   Pasta, booze, satiety, and why late-night eating wrecks you

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:05

      Yeah. Well, you and me are both Italian, and Italians, we just love our pasta. It's a real problem.

   2. SMSebastian Maniscalco7:10

      It's a problem, especially-

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:11

      It's a problem.

   4. SMSebastian Maniscalco7:11

      ... when you, after you hit 50-

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:13

      Yeah.

   6. SMSebastian Maniscalco7:13

      ... it just seems to, uh, not go away.

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:15

      It doesn't go away. Y- the only way to go away is to not eat pasta. That's the only way.

   8. SMSebastian Maniscalco7:20

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:20

      That's the only way for me. Not eat pasta and booze. If I cut way back on the booze and no pasta, my body just goes whoop and shrivels back to normal.

   10. SMSebastian Maniscalco7:29

       Yeah. I'm in the process of trying to, uh, get back in shape.

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:33

       And it's so hard to avoid that food. The food is just like, if it's in front of me, I just have a real problem.

   12. SMSebastian Maniscalco7:39

       Well, you, you're, you're like to, you like to eat meat. Do you find that the m- meat is, uh, is helping your, uh, physique and, uh, stay-

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:48

       Yeah, if I just eat meat, yeah, definitely. Yeah, because meat is very satisfying. Meat has what's called a high satiety rate, which means, like, when you eat it, you get satisfied when your body's had enough. But I always say this, like, if you gave me a steak, just a steak, 16-ounce steak, I eat it, I'm good. I don't need anything else. But if there's a bowl of pasta next to that steak, I'm eating the pasta too. If there's a bo- some bread and butter, I'm gonna eat the bread and butter. Somebody rolls out dessert, of course I'll have dessert. Next thing you know, I've consumed, you know, 1,500 extra calories that I didn't even really want or need.

   14. SMSebastian Maniscalco8:21

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:22

       They just, it just, you just get addicted to just stuffing your face, just stuff. Oh. I w- if I don't leave like this, like, oh, like, my, my stomach literally will distend out-

   16. SMSebastian Maniscalco8:35

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:35

       ... where I look at myself in the mirror, I'm disgusted, like, "What have you eaten? Look at all the mass you put-"

   18. SMSebastian Maniscalco8:42

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:42

       "... in your body." Because if you looked at, like, if you keep your stomach, like, right here, like, this is, uh, normal, my normal stomach. But if you add that much food, which is, I'll consume that much food easy.

   20. SMSebastian Maniscalco8:54

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:54

       It just goes right here.

   22. SMSebastian Maniscalco8:55

       Oh, yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:56

       Oh. And you just look, you're like, "You fat piece of shit. You lazy, slovenly, greedy fuck. Like, look what you've eaten."

   24. SMSebastian Maniscalco9:06

       You, you get any, uh, s- you sweat at night when you s- uh, sleep after you have a meal? I'm drenched.

6. 9:12 – 12:24

   Sleep optimization: Eight Sleep, Oura/Apple data, and needing accountability

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:12

      I have, uh, a thing called an Eight Sleep mattress cover.

   2. SMSebastian Maniscalco9:16

      I have one.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:17

      They're fucking amazing.

   4. SMSebastian Maniscalco9:18

      Okay.

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:18

      It's a game changer.

   6. SMSebastian Maniscalco9:19

      Okay. So, do, do you crank that thing up to 10 after you eat a meal like that-

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:24

      (laughs)

   8. SMSebastian Maniscalco9:24

      ... to cool off the body?

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:26

      No. You, generally, uh, if I'm sweating, it's 'cause I'm having nightmares. You know, I'll, I'll have some nightmares and I'll wake up drenched. Not in that thing though, that thing generally, I don't, I don't think I have woken up sweaty since I got it.

   10. SMSebastian Maniscalco9:38

       Really?

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:39

       It's amaz- I always used to wake up sweaty. I would wake up in wet sheets.

   12. SMSebastian Maniscalco9:43

       Oh, yeah. No, I, I eat, I eat a ribeye.

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:46

       (laughs)

   14. SMSebastian Maniscalco9:47

       2:00 o'clock in the morning, I get up and I'm like sweating.

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:51

       Yeah.

   16. SMSebastian Maniscalco9:51

       And, and that never used to happen, uh, when I, when I used to eat.

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:54

       I don't remember what I have the Eight Sleep thing dialed into, but I got it right there at the sweet spot. I've tried it a little too cool, a little too warm, I'm, but now I got it on right there.

   18. SMSebastian Maniscalco10:05

       Do you-

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       I sleep like a baby.

   20. SMSebastian Maniscalco10:06

       Do you have it heat up, uh, in the morn- in the morning?

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:10

       I think it does. I think it's on some sort of a cycle. I'm not, I'm not exactly sure. I don't remember how I set it up. But you could, there's a bunch of different options that you can do, and you can even have a different option for, like, you or your wife-

   22. SMSebastian Maniscalco10:22

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:23

       ... if she likes it warmer or cooler. It's nice.

   24. SMSebastian Maniscalco10:25

       No, it's been a game changer for me.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:26

       It does make a big difference.

   26. SMSebastian Maniscalco10:27

       Yeah, totally.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:28

       Yeah. B- but taking care of your sleep is gi- I've really prioritized that, espe- especially recently, because, you know, owning the club and being out late and, uh, I was doing two shows a night, which is also a lot.

   28. SMSebastian Maniscalco10:40

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:40

       It was too much. I was doing six hours of comedy a week, just doing three nights.

   30. SMSebastian Maniscalco10:45

       Wow.
7. 12:24 – 14:50

   Supplements, travel packs, and Joe’s vitamin “suite”

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:24

      Are you taking vitamins?

   2. SMSebastian Maniscalco12:27

      ... uh, I take supplements like, uh, you know, a multivitamin.

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:31

      Mm-hmm.

   4. SMSebastian Maniscalco12:31

      And I'm sure I don't have it dialed in as-

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:34

      You should get it dialed in.

   6. SMSebastian Maniscalco12:34

      ... as-

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:34

      It'll make a big difference.

   8. SMSebastian Maniscalco12:35

      ... much as it should be, but, uh-

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:38

      That'll make a big difference.

   10. SMSebastian Maniscalco12:38

       ... I just feel exhausted, Joe.

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:39

       Yeah.

   12. SMSebastian Maniscalco12:40

       I am tired.

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:41

       Yeah.

   14. SMSebastian Maniscalco12:42

       And I just constantly have to have sips of caffeine throughout the day to stay alive.

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:48

       Ooh.

   16. SMSebastian Maniscalco12:48

       That's, uh, that's where I'm at. You, you look like you wake up ready to go.

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:55

       Right. (laughs)

   18. SMSebastian Maniscalco12:57

       (laughs) I got this whole vision of, of what your day must look like. You must spring out of bed and go, "Give me it."

   19. JRJoe Rogan13:03

       (laughs)

   20. SMSebastian Maniscalco13:03

       (laughs) Right? I never... I, I don't ev- talk about not, not having to sue that, I don't think since I've known you, I've seen you yawn.

   21. JRJoe Rogan13:15

       Dude. (laughs)

   22. SMSebastian Maniscalco13:16

       (laughs) I'm not kidding, bro. You constantly look awake. What is it? The-

   23. JRJoe Rogan13:21

       It's health.

   24. SMSebastian Maniscalco13:22

       ... the- the-

   25. JRJoe Rogan13:22

       (laughs)

   26. SMSebastian Maniscalco13:23

       ... the water?

   27. JRJoe Rogan13:24

       It's the, all the above. Supplements, definitely. That's a big factor. I take a lot of vitamins. I take, uh, I take, um, athletic greens. That's one thing I take, but I take a whole suite of different vitamins. I take, uh, a bunch of different things like vitamin D, vitamin K2. I take, uh, things for eyesight. I take, um, uh, just fish oil. I take creatine. I take a lot of stuff.

   28. SMSebastian Maniscalco13:52

       Okay.

   29. JRJoe Rogan13:52

       Yeah.

   30. SMSebastian Maniscalco13:53

       I took, uh, I don't know, three or four vitamins once.
8. 14:50 – 24:52

   Dogs, neutering debate, cologne, and the ‘no body odor’ gene

   1. SMSebastian Maniscalco14:50

      He's teething. He's just, he's biting.

   2. JRJoe Rogan14:53

      How cute is that dog?

   3. SMSebastian Maniscalco14:54

      He's cute. I just bought a dog.

   4. JRJoe Rogan14:55

      Oh.

   5. SMSebastian Maniscalco14:55

      I just got a dog.

   6. JRJoe Rogan14:56

      What'd you get?

   7. SMSebastian Maniscalco14:56

      I... never, never a dog owner-

   8. JRJoe Rogan14:58

      Really?

   9. SMSebastian Maniscalco14:58

      ... in my life. This is the first time I've ever had a dog. It's a Labradoodle. And it's, uh-

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:02

       Oh, those are great dogs.

   11. SMSebastian Maniscalco15:04

       It's extremely intelligent.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:05

       Yeah.

   13. SMSebastian Maniscalco15:06

       But I don't think it likes me.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:07

       What?

   15. SMSebastian Maniscalco15:08

       I don't know. He's looking at me like, um... Loves my wife, loves my kids.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       It doesn't like you.

   17. SMSebastian Maniscalco15:12

       I don't know. It just... it's, uh-

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:14

       Mm.

   19. SMSebastian Maniscalco15:15

       It's not as excited to see me as maybe my wife and kids.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       Really? Mm.

   21. SMSebastian Maniscalco15:20

       And it's very perceptive on the, uh-

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       Maybe he wants to meet the man. Is he the man of the house?

   23. SMSebastian Maniscalco15:25

       Uh, uh... well, he's becoming the man.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       Does he have balls?

   25. SMSebastian Maniscalco15:28

       Uh, yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       Well, keep his balls.

   27. SMSebastian Maniscalco15:29

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       Don't, don't-

   29. SMSebastian Maniscalco15:31

       No. That's what, that's what, uh, one of... I think the dog trainer said, "Just keep e'm-"

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       Yeah, just-
9. 24:52 – 35:29

   Saunas, cold plunge culture, magnesium foot spray, and IV drips (including NAD)

   1. SMSebastian Maniscalco24:52

      With all this stuff that's out, right?

   2. JRJoe Rogan24:54

      Yeah. Yeah.

   3. SMSebastian Maniscalco24:54

      All this information-

   4. JRJoe Rogan24:56

      Yes.

   5. SMSebastian Maniscalco24:56

      ... of how to live your life, and you took me to a tour. You got the, you got the, the tank, you, the, the sauna, the thing. I feel like at this age, at 50, all the stuff that you gotta do to prepare for the day-

   6. JRJoe Rogan25:09

      Mm-hmm.

   7. SMSebastian Maniscalco25:10

      ... by the time you're done with it, you gotta go back to bed again, right? So- (laughs) by the time you work out, do the cold plunge, you're in the sauna, you're in the tank, and then it's time to go to bed. It's, it's time to go- (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan25:21

      No.

   9. SMSebastian Maniscalco25:21

      ... back to bed with all the shit you gotta do, right?

   10. JRJoe Rogan25:23

       It's not that much-

   11. SMSebastian Maniscalco25:23

       Used to be you just work out for an hour, you took a shower, and you went on with your day. Now, I gotta go submerge myself-

   12. JRJoe Rogan25:30

       Yeah. (laughs)

   13. SMSebastian Maniscalco25:30

       ... in, in water. I gotta go sweat. Then I gotta go float in a tank. But-

   14. JRJoe Rogan25:35

       The tank takes a lot of time, but the other things don't take... The float tank takes a lot of time, but the other things, like cold plunge adds three minutes to my day. Sauna adds 20 minutes to my day. It's 25 extra minutes out of my workout. That's it.

   15. SMSebastian Maniscalco25:47

       No, I, I, (laughs) I wasn't looking for the time breakdown, Joe. (laughs) I was just saying-

   16. JRJoe Rogan25:53

       But it doesn't take the whole day.

   17. SMSebastian Maniscalco25:54

       But I'm just saying, the, the, what, the amount of sh- what the-

   18. JRJoe Rogan25:56

       Yeah.

   19. SMSebastian Maniscalco25:57

       Then you gotta eat the vitamins, the half a cup.

   20. JRJoe Rogan25:59

       Right.

   21. SMSebastian Maniscalco25:59

       And then the... But, you know-

   22. JRJoe Rogan26:01

       Mm-hmm.

   23. SMSebastian Maniscalco26:01

       By the, by the, by the time (laughs) this is all said and done, it's time for dinner.

   24. JRJoe Rogan26:06

       No. No. You get things done, man. Just so... You're exaggerating. I, I get you doing that.

   25. SMSebastian Maniscalco26:10

       I, I don't, I don't-

   26. JRJoe Rogan26:11

       It's just, it's just the way you do humor. I get it.

   27. SMSebastian Maniscalco26:13

       I, I love exaggeration.

   28. JRJoe Rogan26:14

       (laughs) It's, it's plenty of time. There's plenty of time. You just, uh, don't waste your ti... Like today, I wasted an hour just sc- scrolling through Instagram. It's one of the rare days I just felt like indulging myself.

   29. SMSebastian Maniscalco26:26

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan26:26

       I'm like, "Let me just fucking see what's going on in the world." Bunch of nonsense, but some interesting things, but just a bunch of nonsense for a whole hour, just wasted scrolling.
10. 35:29 – 55:13

    Focus and skill-building: comedy obsession, learning limits, and cooking/pizza experiments

    1. SMSebastian Maniscalco35:29

       It's a-

    2. JRJoe Rogan35:29

       Do you have an aversion to hardcore things? Or is it just how it all panned out?

    3. SMSebastian Maniscalco35:32

       It just all, all panned out. Hardcore for me is, uh ... Hardcore is comedy, that's what I do.

    4. JRJoe Rogan35:38

       Okay.

    5. SMSebastian Maniscalco35:39

       Hardcore is-

    6. JRJoe Rogan35:39

       You got one thing.

    7. SMSebastian Maniscalco35:40

       One thing it is.

    8. JRJoe Rogan35:40

       One thing that you're all in on.

    9. SMSebastian Maniscalco35:42

       All in on comedy. But o- other than that, outside ... I wish I was more interested and dov- dove into things a little bit more deeper than I have. Everything f- ... With me is a little bit on the surface.

    10. JRJoe Rogan35:54

        Do you really wish that? Because I feel like if you did wish that, you would just do it. Right?

    11. SMSebastian Maniscalco35:59

        Yeah. I just wish I had the ... I don't know what it is inside me that would, you know, make me wanna learn more about ... Like, I like cooking, right?

    12. JRJoe Rogan36:09

        Mm-hmm.

    13. SMSebastian Maniscalco36:09

        But I don't dive so into it, where I'm coming up with recipes and doing this and that and the other thing.

    14. JRJoe Rogan36:15

        Right, right, right.

    15. SMSebastian Maniscalco36:16

        I'll just look, look at a YouTube video, make that ... Make the fish and then ... You know, here's the fish. But I don't take it to another level. I don't go get the beautiful knife or the, the pots and pans-

    16. JRJoe Rogan36:28

        Hmm.

    17. SMSebastian Maniscalco36:28

        ... and all the stuff that is ... goes along with cooking.

    18. JRJoe Rogan36:31

        Right.

    19. SMSebastian Maniscalco36:32

        My interest level is surface. Rarely does it go underneath the surface.

    20. JRJoe Rogan36:37

        Hmm. You know what I really got into out here, is cooking over wood. Like, live wo- ... Like, actual hardwood, not just lump charcoal. Like, getting wood and using an offset smoker, and slowly searing the steaks or, or slowly, like, cooking the steaks rather, and then searing them at the end over the coals. I take the coals and I put the coals from the hardwood on a ... Underneath a grill and then sear the shit out of it.

    21. SMSebastian Maniscalco37:02

        Okay. I hear the ... (laughs)

    22. GUGuest37:04

        ... (laughs) I hear that-

    23. JRJoe Rogan37:06

        Yeah.

    24. GUGuest37:06

        ... and my brain is gonna explode. Like, I, like, it, it's-

    25. JRJoe Rogan37:09

        Too much?

    26. GUGuest37:09

        It's-

    27. JRJoe Rogan37:10

        Too much.

    28. GUGuest37:10

        It's too much. (laughs)

    29. JRJoe Rogan37:11

        But we're all different, Sebastian.

    30. GUGuest37:12

        I know, I know we're all different, but, like-
11. 55:13 – 1:02:03

    Podcasting and modern entertainment: doom-scrolling, the marshmallow-mouth phenomenon, and the value of long-form

    1. SMSebastian Maniscalco55:13

       Right? But, you know, even just the entertainment landscape as I look at it, has entertainment changed where now we're looking at the phone and we're looking at somebody do something crazy at their house. There's a guy I've been watching this insane, his name is ins- he's catching eggs in his mouth, right? There you see this guy Insane-

    2. JRJoe Rogan55:34

       No.

    3. SMSebastian Maniscalco55:35

       Uh, i- i- insane, I forget the name of it, but it's Insane Shane.... this guy. (laughs)

    4. JRJoe Rogan55:41

       He catches eggs from how far away?

    5. SMSebastian Maniscalco55:43

       50 yards, they're throwing eggs in this guy's mouth. He's got the best mouth on the internet, right?

    6. JRJoe Rogan55:48

       Does he break the eggs or does he catch 'em and not let 'em break?

    7. SMSebastian Maniscalco55:50

       No, they're like hard, uh, hard, like-

    8. JRJoe Rogan55:51

       Hard-boiled.

    9. SMSebastian Maniscalco55:52

       ... like hard-boiled or a meatball.

    10. JRJoe Rogan55:54

        Oh.

    11. SMSebastian Maniscalco55:54

        This guy's chucking meatballs ... (wheezes)

    12. JRJoe Rogan55:56

        And he's catching 'em in his mouth?

    13. SMSebastian Maniscalco55:58

        50 yards.

    14. JRJoe Rogan55:59

        That's a skill.

    15. SMSebastian Maniscalco56:00

        So I'm watching thi- and I can't ... yeah, thi- this is, this- (wheezes) this again.

    16. JRJoe Rogan56:04

        Okay. The marshmallow combine.

    17. SMSebastian Maniscalco56:09

        B- (laughs)

    18. GUGuest56:11

        (instrumental music plays)

    19. NANarrator56:12

        No.

    20. JRJoe Rogan56:12

        He's, he's not catching all of 'em.

    21. SMSebastian Maniscalco56:14

        No, he's, he's, he's catching them and he's sp-

    22. JRJoe Rogan56:15

        Oh, he's catching them and then spitting them out.

    23. NANarrator56:17

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan56:17

        Oh my God, that's insane.

    25. NANarrator56:19

        Uh, one of these guys threw it 50 ... ah, who throws a marshmallow 50 yards too?

    26. SMSebastian Maniscalco56:22

        Yeah, like, I think, I think-

    27. NANarrator56:23

        I don't know how these guys do that.

    28. SMSebastian Maniscalco56:24

        ... they're like ex, they, they're like ex-football players or the guys that are throwing ... th- this guy's doing routes-

    29. JRJoe Rogan56:29

        (laughs)

    30. SMSebastian Maniscalco56:29

        ... catching marshmallows in his mouth.
12. 1:02:03 – 1:07:05

    High-stakes interviews and becoming more open-minded through podcasting

    1. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:02:03

       I have to ask you this, talking about Huberman and you've-

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:02:04

       Please.

    3. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:02:06

       ... interviewed him. Do you ever have somebody come on the show where you're nervous to have them? Like, "Oh, man, this is uh..."

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:02:12

       Oh, yeah, definitely.

    5. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:02:13

       G- like, who are you nervous to interview?

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:02:16

       Roger Penrose, uh, the Nobel Prize winner. He's a, a just, just a brilliant mind and older, you know. So I'm like, "How is this conversation gonna go? How do I engage him?" I don't want hi- him to, uh, feel like he's wasting his time here, so I wanna, I wanna be prepared-

    7. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:02:31

       Mm-hmm.

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:02:31

       ... have good questions. And yeah, I don't know how much of an experience those guys have on podcasts-

    9. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:02:36

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:02:36

        ... or how much of an experience they have at all with comedians, you know. I don't wanna fuck around too much. I just wanna just get the most out of him that I can get. Like, I just wanna try to, like, massage his wheels and, and ask the right questions and, and, and be curious about all the right things and be informed enough to, to know what the right questions are-

    11. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:02:55

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:02:55

        ... and what I'm actually... And also, very fascinated by his research. So I really, it's like having an opportunity to talk to such a brilliant person. You know, like 'cause he's done, uh, a lot of research in the Big Bang. He's got a very interesting thought about the Big Bang that he doesn't think the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe, and that's, uh, something that a lot of physicists are considering now. It's ver- it's very fascinating stuff, the idea that the universe is eternal or much older than we think it is.

    13. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:03:23

        Yeah, that's crazy.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:03:23

        (coughs)

    15. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:03:23

        I mean, you gotta be a chameleon. I mean, you got so many people, different, different people (laughs) coming in here, right?

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:03:27

        Yeah.

    17. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:03:27

        From comedy to, you know, uh, doctors to, to what have you, and you gotta, like, adjust.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:03:33

        You do have to adjust, yeah.

    19. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:03:34

        To every different personality. It's just an art form.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:03:37

        But it makes you more flexible as a person too, like, you have con- conversations with all kinds of people.

    21. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:03:41

        Oh, absolutely.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:03:41

        Yeah.

    23. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:03:41

        Absolutely, I mean-

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:03:42

        It's better. It's, I, I like it. (coughs) It's a lot better than what I used to think before I started the podcast. You know, in 2009 I was very close-minded. I just was doing it just for fun. I mean, I was open-minded generally, but not like I am now. I wasn't aware of why I thought what I thought and what my biases are and why, why I think of things in certain ways instead of, like, considering them from, like, a broader perspective. But when you do a podcast, you're kind of forced to do that because there's a lot of times when s- um, I, even if I agree with someone about something, I have to take the position of someone who's skeptical and ask them a question like, "But what about this?"

    25. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:04:17

        Yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:04:18

        So instead of just confirming them and us existing in an echo chamber, I will, I will try to offer consideration. Like, "Okay, but why... Someone could think of it this way. Do you think of it this way ever? Have you ever tried to think of it this way?" And just, like, see, you know, how their brain works.

    27. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:04:34

        Mm-hmm.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:04:34

        'Cause everybody's brain is d- you know, they're different. You, you know, you have children, and one of the things you find out when you have children is, b- bro, right outta the box, they're different people. They are different people. It's fascinating.

    29. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:04:46

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:04:46

        'Cause you, you know, you meet a kid when he's four. You're like, "Look at that smart kid," you know, "What an interesting kid." But you, you don't, you didn't get to see that kid with his brother and his sister and all of them coming out of the same woman and going, "This is all from the same father." Like, this is nuts. They're totally (laughs) different things.
13. 1:07:05 – 1:16:17

    Claustrophobia on planes, rising in-flight violence, and why intervention gets messy

    1. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:05

       And this just happened to me recently.

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:07:07

       Don't get in that tank then. Don't get in that-

    3. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:09

       Yeah, I don't know if I-

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:07:09

       ... i- sensory deprivation tank.

    5. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:11

       ... I don't know if I can do that. I- it happened to me on an airplane.

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:07:13

       Oh, no.

    7. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:14

       Uh, sitting at the window seat. It just overcame me. I said, "I, I, I, I gotta get outta here." And-

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:07:20

       Oh, no.

    9. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:20

       ... ever since then, like, I get, I have to have an aisle seat if I go to a theater and watch a show. I have-

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:07:26

        Oh.

    11. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:26

        ... I can't be confined even in the back.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:07:29

        This came out of nowhere?

    13. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:30

        Out of nowhere.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:07:31

        (sighs)

    15. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:31

        On an airplane.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:07:32

        Wow.

    17. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:34

        And I, and I had to go in the back for two hours and hang out with the flight attendants and like-

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:07:38

        Oh, my gosh.

    19. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:38

        ... stand the rest of the, the time.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:07:39

        Wow.

    21. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:40

        So-

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:07:41

        Did you tell them what was going on?

    23. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:42

        Yeah, I said, "Listen-"

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:07:44

        "I'm freaking out."

    25. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:44

        "... just so you know-"

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:07:45

        (laughs)

    27. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:47

        ... I'm crawling out of my skin.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:07:48

        (laughs)

    29. SMSebastian Maniscalco1:07:48

        I'm sitting next to two people. I feel like I'm trapped, I can't get out. So I'm very anxious now. If I get on an airplane and ... Here, here's one.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:07:59

        Okay.

Episode duration: 2:15:48