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From guest to host: Rogan’s “everyone should podcast” ripple effect
- NANarrator
(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)
- JRJoe Rogan
Cheers, sir. Good to see you, buddy.
- RWRemi Warren
Cheers. Good to see you, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
We were just saying, you're- you're a professional podcaster now too.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, I guess. (laughs) A little bit different, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't that wild?
- RWRemi Warren
It's wild, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, when I met you, nobody was podcasting. (laughs)
- RWRemi Warren
No. You were like- you were like-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) No, that's funny.
- RWRemi Warren
"You should podcast. You could do a really good podcast." I'm like, "All right, I'll podcast." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I wonder how many podcasts I've talked people into doing.
- RWRemi Warren
A lot. I think you're responsible for most-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RWRemi Warren
... of my Spotify playlist. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's gotta be over 50.
- RWRemi Warren
Dude-
- JRJoe Rogan
At this time? Like, the amount of people that actually have podcasts, that got podcasts after I told them, "You should probably do a podcast."
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
People were getting annoyed at me. I- I ran into people that would tell me personally in the street, "Dude, I love your podcast, but please stop telling everybody to do a podcast."
- RWRemi Warren
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I was like, "Why? What if they're good at it? What if they get good at it?"
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, what's the pro- what's the harm? You don't like it? Don't download it.
- RWRemi Warren
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's super easy to deal with.
- RWRemi Warren
It is, yeah. Yeah, that was the thing. You were just like wa- You were like, "Remy, you know what you need to do?" "What?" "Podcast." It was like, I think you told me three times before it got- (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RWRemi Warren
Fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you're a great podcast guest.
- 1:22 – 2:49
A life in the field: hunting 200 days a year and why wilderness never gets routine
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. And your perspective is very interesting, 'cause your perspective as a guy that hunts, like, how many days a year do you hunt?
- RWRemi Warren
Now, I don't know. It's probably, well-
- JRJoe Rogan
Down to 200?
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, something like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah. No, seriously.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what that is? That's- that's most of the year.
- RWRemi Warren
Most of the year, most of the year.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're in the woods.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, exactly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which is crazy. That's like-
- RWRemi Warren
It is crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
... super unusual for a human being.
- RWRemi Warren
It is, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, living in America in 2024, what percentage of the population do you, like, consider your peers?
- RWRemi Warren
A very, very small percentage.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause like Cam Hanes, Rinella, you, Dudley, but I don't think th- those guys hunt as much, you know?
- RWRemi Warren
No, yeah. I'm-
- JRJoe Rogan
They don't- they don't hunt as much, 'cause you guide as well.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, I'm just like a different kind of addict, where I just have to be out there-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RWRemi Warren
... and doing it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's, you know, the people that don't know, it's- it's an am- amazing experience just to be out there. It's amazing. It's like nothing else that you ex- it's- it's literally wild.
- RWRemi Warren
It is, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a lot of wild things that you do-
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that are like, "Wow, this is wild." But no, this is literally wild.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, for real wild.
- RWRemi Warren
Well, I think the thing is for me is I can go out there, and every- you don't know what you're gonna encounter.
- 2:49 – 5:24
Musk ox above the Arctic Circle: whiteouts, wind, and the frozen-ocean landscape
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? I mean, there's too many different environments. Like, you just got back, I was listening to your podcast, about, uh, hunting for musk ox.
- RWRemi Warren
Yup.
- JRJoe Rogan
And that experience of, like, hours and hours every day in just whiteness.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just snow and nothing but on snowmobiles.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, that fucking freaks me out.
- RWRemi Warren
It's a- that- that was the best part about it is just, like, the place. Sometimes hunting takes you to those really cool places that you never thought you'd go. Like, nobody goes above the Arctic Circle unless they're a scientist figuring out, you know, global warming shit, or somebody going hunting, 'cause it's not- I guess there's a few people doing polar expeditions and things like that. But it's not a place you just go vacation.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is this from your Instagram?
- NANarrator
Man: Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So this is what it's like out there? Oh, wow. So it's like little trailers out there?
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, you're just- you're essentially traveling on frozen ocean. And you look at the size of the Arctic, and it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
And how many people live up there?
- RWRemi Warren
It's like larger than North America.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is it really?
- RWRemi Warren
For the most- I- I'm- I'm not sure exactly how big it is, but when you look at the whole Arctic Circle, that whole region, it is massive.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is it really larger than North America?
- RWRemi Warren
Or like- larger than the United States, for sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow, and so larger than the United States, and it's all just snow?
- RWRemi Warren
I guess it's part of North America, so you can't really say it's larger than North America. But yeah, it's just wild. It's, uh, frozen snow, and then there's to- so there's like the frozen ocean, and then there's islands in it that would be land. Kinda has some undulation in there, like little hills. There's a Arctic hare just digging. I- s- peop- it's like, what do they eat?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RWRemi Warren
I don't know. They eat the tundra, I guess.
- JRJoe Rogan
The Arctic hare and the ptarmigans, right?
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, what do they eat?
- RWRemi Warren
S- I don't know, just the grasses, seeds.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just whatever pops up-
- RWRemi Warren
Whatever pops up, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... out of the, in little spots-
- RWRemi Warren
Lichens, yeah.
- 5:24 – 7:17
Remote village logistics: subsistence living where fuel arrives once a year
- JRJoe Rogan
The Arctic. And when you're out there, um, how many people live there full time?
- RWRemi Warren
Uh, I can't remember. I think it- it's under 1,000.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. And so-
- RWRemi Warren
And that's like a larger- we flew into like a larger area and then went, you know, 100- over 100 miles from there.
- JRJoe Rogan
What do those folks do for the most part?
- RWRemi Warren
Uh, there's some- in the summertime, there's like fishing, and then hunting in the wintertime. And that's-
- JRJoe Rogan
And that's what they live off of?
- RWRemi Warren
Uh, yeah. The- there's- there is stuff, like cert- some of the more remo- there's other villages that don't have, you know, like an airplane that goes to it or whatever. And they're-... purely subsistence or getting things in couple times a year. Like, that particular spot, the fuel comes in once a year.
- JRJoe Rogan
Once a year?
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And so, if somebody pokes a hole in the fuel tank-
- RWRemi Warren
That's it.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you're fucked.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, you're done.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God.
- RWRemi Warren
It's pretty crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fuel comes in once a year is such a crazy thing to say.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, you gotta plan for the whole year.
- RWRemi Warren
How much fuel? Everybody uses diesel for everything, heating-
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- RWRemi Warren
... everything.
- JRJoe Rogan
And if you don't have it, you're fucked.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- RWRemi Warren
Very, very, very crazy. Like, I don't know. It's just, there's places in the world that are so unlike what we're used to.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- RWRemi Warren
And that's one of them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which, imagine, there's people that are gonna live their whole life there-
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- 7:17 – 10:21
Arctic food culture: muktuk (whale fat), boiled meat, and survival-driven cooking
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah. They like, uh, their food, they like to eat stuff that, uh, I wasn't a fan of. It's, uh, called muktuk. It's, like, essentially whale fat that's been dr- like, cured.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa. Like, fermented?
- RWRemi Warren
Uh, not fermented. It's more like salted, almost like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, okay.
- RWRemi Warren
... like, whale beef jerky.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, like, okay. Ooh.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whale fat, that's what it looks like?
- RWRemi Warren
Yep. That's it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bourdain told me that fermented shark was the most disgusting thing he ever ate.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, I haven't had that, but I've heard it's really bad.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they love it.
- RWRemi Warren
Like, jellying shark.
- JRJoe Rogan
And apparently, wherever the fuck it is, I guess it's Iceland, where they eat it a lot-
- RWRemi Warren
Iceland, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what it looks like, Jamie?
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that what it wou- looked like when you were eating it?
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What does it taste like?
- RWRemi Warren
Uh, I don't... It's, like, greasy, rotten fish maybe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh.
- RWRemi Warren
Uh, no, not a fan.
- JRJoe Rogan
What kind of whale is it too?
- RWRemi Warren
The guys, the, some of the Inuit guys, they have, like, preferred whale kinds. They like narwhal the best is what he said, and then beluga whale. And then there's other whales that they don't like as much.
- JRJoe Rogan
Huh.
- RWRemi Warren
So, yeah, like, when the community gets like a, I gue- they do all that in the summertime, and then they save it for the wintertime. But I guess you'd need to eat a lot of fat to survive the winter.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whale, in my brain, is, goes into the same category as monkey. Like, you're eating whale or you're eating monkey.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm like, "Yo, do you have to do that?" (laughs)
- 10:21 – 14:32
Happiness vs achievement: trappers, fishing guides, and choosing a simpler life
- JRJoe Rogan
It's probably good. It's probably good for you. Those people that live... Have you ever seen that Werner Herzog, uh, Werner Herzog film, Happy People?
- RWRemi Warren
Ah, man, I can't remember it. Seems a-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's the, the one where the, uh, trappers in the taiga in Siberia.
- RWRemi Warren
No, I haven't seen that one.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's an amazing documentary. So Werner Herzog went to, uh, Siberia and hung out... I don't know if he was just narrating it or if he was actually there. I think he was just narrating it. Hi- maybe he went there, but someone went there. Point is, like, these people are extremely happy, and they just, all they do is go trapping and fishing and hunting, and they live in these villages, and they go around on snowmobiles. And it's, it's a kind of, uh, it's interesting because it's like what is life supposed to be about? Is it supposed to be about enjoying yourself? Or is it supposed to be about accomplishing things? Like, 'cause if it's supposed to be about accomplishing things and you don't enjoy yourself, it seems like you're kind of missing part of the point of life.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And these people, their life is enjoyable. Like, they love fishing. They're laughing and they're, when they're going hunting, they're talking about hunting, how much they love hunting and fishing, and it's fun, and you, you know, get all this food. And they, they're just pulling these massive pike out of the river. They have these giant nets and shit, and so they're having a good old time, like, all day long.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're freezing the fish. They feed the fish to the dogs. Like, they have this whole system worked out. They just completely exist with what they have, with very little thi- other than, like, snowmobiles and the occasional, like, m- machine that they nee-... They make all their skis. They hand-make their skis.
- RWRemi Warren
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
This guy was, like, showing how to make a ski, and so he, like, is, like, using the pitch and the tar, and, like, heating the, the thing up, and cutting it perfectly and planing it. It's pretty amazing stuff.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, that's wild.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're the happy shit.
- RWRemi Warren
I guess that's it's like, yeah, everybody works real hard to go on vacation and going fishing.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RWRemi Warren
(laughs) Like, this is just what we're doing, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
They just live that way.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I met a dude when I was in the British Virgin Islands who worked for a big tech company.I don't wanna say the company, but it's like a major company that, like, you know, they make like fucking jets and shit for the military.
- RWRemi Warren
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, um, he just was like, "I don't see this. I, I don't see ... This is, this just doesn't seem like a good path for the rest of my life." Um, he goes, "I'm seeing all these people that were managers and executives, they're trying to work their way up the corporate ladder and everybody's miserable, everyone's exhausted, everyone's overworked. They're all putting in crazy hours. They bring work home with them and they har- hardly see their family." They make a lot of money, sure, but he was like, "Fuck this." And he just became a fishing guy, British Virgin Islands.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fucking super chill guy. But as I was talking to him, it's like bringing up scientific terms for different animals, and like the way, uh, different, uh, fish have like very specific ... I forget the term he was using about like, uh, it was particularly about, um, barracuda. That barracuda, like, they, they make their skin oilier to, so they can go faster.
- RWRemi Warren
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
So they can move through the water faster. Yeah, they're lubed.
- RWRemi Warren
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
They're, they're lubed up. But he was explaining it in like these scientific terms. And I was like, "Wow, this guy is like very, uh, has amazing vocabulary for a guy who runs a fishing boat." Like he sounds like a scientist.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like a guy who I would talk to on a podcast. And the more we're talking, you know, 'cause we're on this four-hour, um, fishing trip, and the more we're talking, he starts telling me his background, he starts talking about th- the business that he was in. I was like, "That's crazy." And so he just decided to bail on it all and just start fishing. Like that's like a character in a movie.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah. (laughs)
- 14:32 – 17:28
Wrist injury saga: a botched surgery, complications, and rebuilding function
- JRJoe Rogan
So we brought you out here today, uh, to do a podcast, but also because I wanted to get you into Ways to Wow because, uh, you had a crazy wrist injury-
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that, um, you had a, you wound up getting two surgeries on, right?
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, 'cause last time I was in here I had just started shooting that mouth tab.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's right.
- RWRemi Warren
So-
- JRJoe Rogan
We talked about last time.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, I think I just got it set up.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause we practiced.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, and we shot-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RWRemi Warren
... in the ... That was like some of the first arrows I'd flung in s-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RWRemi Warren
... in front of a, an- an- another human. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) That mouth tab thing had to be weird.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
For people who don't know what we're talking about, um, well, so just explain the injury. Let's get into the injury first.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, so I mean, I, I tore a tendon in my wrist that does a lot of the movement things and it ended up being dis- dislocated and had to do a reconstruction of the tendon and all that stuff. Had a surgery, essentially a botched surgery which made ... A, a- the surgery that, the surgery did probably more damage than maybe even the initial thing, come to find out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, so the, the surg- the bad surgery caused a lot of complications and then had to have like a salvage surgery after that.
- JRJoe Rogan
What, what kind of complications did it cause?
- RWRemi Warren
I mean, I lost the feeling in my hand. Um-
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't feel anything in that hand?
- RWRemi Warren
No, I do now. The second surgery, they like fixed all that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, wow.
- RWRemi Warren
Um, there was, uh, yeah, just like the, the recovery. It went from, you know, essentially a ... What, what do they promise? Like three-month to six-month kind of recovery to a couple years down the track and still not even being able to function 100%.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- RWRemi Warren
Still a lot of pain and other things. So, um, but yeah, but because of that-
- JRJoe Rogan
So wh- so what was wrong with the first surgery? Like what did they do? It just didn't turn out well?
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah. Well, the, um, they broke, uh, one of the bits when they were drilling in and it got, the bit, I guess, got broken in the, it's like a hollow screw. So it got busted off in there, so then they tried to use another bit to retrieve the bit and broke that bit.
- 17:28 – 18:35
Bowhunting with a mouth tab: adapting fast so the season isn’t lost
- RWRemi Warren
That's what ... Yeah, so that, that caused the pro- so yeah. And, and part of it for me is just I, so I wasn't gonna sit out in archery season so I learned to shoot with my mouth 'cause I couldn't draw the bow with my right hand, with the right wrist 'cause it was immobilized for a long time, cast and all that stuff. So I would've missed the s- the hunting season. So I just learned to shoot biting down on a tab, drawing back, shooting. Got super proficient with it and had probably one of my best seasons. Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- RWRemi Warren
It was awesome. You know, did-
- JRJoe Rogan
I remember when Dudley did that. Dudley had, uh-
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... shoulder surgery.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, and he actually had, he had to switch hands, too, which I was fortunate. I think it was better that, it was like it was my dominant hand.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- RWRemi Warren
But for bow shooting you control ... I'm right eye dominant.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RWRemi Warren
So I control the bow with my left hand. So it was the same everything except just biting and shooting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh yeah, I've often thought about that, if that's smart.I think my right arm's probably more stable than my left arm.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah. Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's quite a bit stronger, I think.
- RWRemi Warren
Are you ... You shoot right-handed?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah. So-
- JRJoe Rogan
I pull the bow with my right.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I feel like my right would probably be more stable.
- 18:35 – 39:52
Archery mechanics & mindset: eye dominance, target panic, and “no single right way”
- RWRemi Warren
It would. That's the, that's the thing people... So, if you don't know for archery, you base off what hand you shoot. It's actually your eye dominance. So, whatever eye is the eye that controls your vision is the eye that you shoot with with a bow, so you can have both eyes open, see the sight and the pin and the target simultaneously. So, if you wanted to know how to do it, you can, like, put your hands up, focus on an object that's far away, and then close one eye, and if it stays there, that's the dominant eye. If it moves, so when I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RWRemi Warren
... close my left eye, the object stays there. I'm right eye dominant, so I shoot a right-handed bow, which is weird because you're drawing it with your right hand.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RWRemi Warren
But every other ... Like, if you're shooting a pistol and you're right-handed, you use your dominant hand to control the weapon.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Yeah.
- RWRemi Warren
So, it ... Like, really, if you're cross-eye dominant and you shoot a bow, everybody thinks that's a bad thing. It's probably a better thing. You are probably almost more natural, in a way.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's either way. Obviously, you could shoot a bow with your left hand. Obviously, people shoot a bow with their right hand.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, either way would work.
- RWRemi Warren
Exactly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, I think it's a lot of malarkey.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah. Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
I think there's a lot of malarkey that I recognize from, like, like, when people tell you you have to do certain things s- one way with martial arts.
- RWRemi Warren
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, s- most of the time, most of the time.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But there's a lot of exceptions.
- RWRemi Warren
There is.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's-
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... a lot of different ways to skin a cat.
- RWRemi Warren
Like, there's people that s- didn't even know that and they started drawing to their non-dominant eye, but you can-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RWRemi Warren
... never shoot with both eyes open that way.
- JRJoe Rogan
Boxing trainers will always tell you, um, that you sh- like, in the beginning, they would never tell you to switch stances. Never switch stances. But some of the best fighters ever switch stances.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But you're not them. But wait a minute, how do you become them? I mean, s- the, some of the best boxers of all time, like Terence Crawford, today, one of the best switch hitters ever. Marvin Hagler, switch hitter. Uh, Boots Ennis. There's, like, really good boxers today that switch hit. They do it all the time. But back in the day, you just stood one leg forward and you got ... And, like ... But, uh, some people do it this way, right?
- RWRemi Warren
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, why not learn to do it that way and be able to do it this way?
- 39:52 – 44:20
Recovery tools and training: stem cells, knee rehab, and rebuilding durability
- RWRemi Warren
It does, yeah. It puts pressure-
- JRJoe Rogan
Does it hurt?
- RWRemi Warren
... on the one spot that we got the, the ... They did those injections, man. I'm hoping that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I saw-
- RWRemi Warren
I, I have a lotta ... I think it's gonna be awesome. Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's gonna make a big difference.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's, uh, I f- I can't say enough about Ways to Well and just stem cells in general. I mean-
- RWRemi Warren
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I've, I've got a bunch from my friend Roddy McGee in, um, Vegas. And, um, uh, the ... What they do is fix things that you would ordinarily have to get surgery for.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And in your case with the torn ligaments, they would have to have a surgery.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They have- That's what they said. But once-
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, once-
- JRJoe Rogan
... it's ripped-
- RWRemi Warren
... after that, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RWRemi Warren
... the recovery portion is where you need it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly. And it just really helps heal injuries, man.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like really helps. I have had a left knee problem for a long time. Like I, I tore my ACL on my left leg when I was 22, I think.
- RWRemi Warren
Hm.
- JRJoe Rogan
I tore it, and then, uh, had a surgery on it where they did a patella tendon graph and they tried to suture up the meniscus, 'cause there was a tear in the meniscus as well. Um, but the suture didn't take and the meniscus tore and then had a bucket handle tear in the meniscus, which is pretty significant, 'cause it would lock my leg out. And so then they had to get-
- RWRemi Warren
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... some of the meniscus removed. So it's always like a little less stable there. There's a little space there, and it gets banged around.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's always sore. And it, and it got-
- RWRemi Warren
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
... over the last couple of years, it, it's actually the stupidest fucking wa- hurt it ever. I was on my way on stage at Stubbs in Austin, which is outsi- outdoor venue. And as w- I was going up these cement stairs, the stairs take like a little turn, and I was turning the recorder on on my phone to record my set, and I stubbed my foot against the stone, and it twisted my knee sideways like somebody heel hooked me. And it, it was excruciating. And I had to go on stage, like right there.
- 44:20 – 1:01:52
Phones, status, and surveillance: green bubbles, AI features, and location tracking
- JRJoe Rogan
I love, I've had Samsung... I was very disappointed when I found out the moon photo wasn't real though. Oh.
- RWRemi Warren
Oh, dang.
- JRJoe Rogan
I was bragging to everybody, "Look at what my phone can do."
- RWRemi Warren
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
"I can take a picture of the moon." (laughs)
- RWRemi Warren
(laughs) Yeah. But I mean, they're great pictures-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's lies.
- RWRemi Warren
... it was great, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so clear. How is it doing?
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah, so good. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RWRemi Warren
'Cause it's lying to you. You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
They're like, "It's no different than face filters." I, it's a lot different. If a face-
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... filter makes me look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, like then-
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you know, something's going on with that face filter. It's lying. (laughs)
- RWRemi Warren
Right. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That moon pho- filter's a fucking lie.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But other than that, they're amazing phones. I just, um, you know, it's, I'm just locked in the fucking Apple ecosystem.
- RWRemi Warren
I know.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I love the rebels.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like my friend, Brian Simpson, he's Android for life. He makes fun of everybody with Apple. Gordon Ryan, same thing, Android for life, and you.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't, you like annoying people. (laughs)
- RWRemi Warren
I do. I'm just like, my favorite thing is just breaking Green Bubble. You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RWRemi Warren
And the best is like, I get taken off of group texts. I'm like, "Thank God." (laughs) I hate group texts.
- 1:01:52 – 1:22:55
From deepfakes to disasters: edited reality, climate swings, and extinction bottlenecks
- JRJoe Rogan
There's another thing the Samsung thing can do. Like if someone's annoying-
- RWRemi Warren
Just take them out of the photo.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and, like, if we take a photo, I'm like, "I'm tired of Jamie's bullshit." You could take ... Just circle Jamie and press that little magic button, and poof-
- RWRemi Warren
Gone.
- JRJoe Rogan
... Jamie goes away. And they'll fill you in with the background. How do you like that?
- NANarrator
Yeah, better pictures. Get everybody out of them.
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But you could also doctor photos too. You can do all ... You can make things way bigger than they really are. Like, you could take a car and say, "Look at this crazy car I saw," just ... (imitates car revving)
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just s- put it in the middle of the street, bigger than everything else. And everybody would be like, "What the fuck?"
- RWRemi Warren
It's so hard to tell what's real anymore.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's real hard to tell.
- RWRemi Warren
It's crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's almost impossible.
- RWRemi Warren
I know that ... Like, I always get these ads that are, like, you talking about something that's not you talking.
- JRJoe Rogan
All bullshit. Yeah.
- RWRemi Warren
It's insane.
- JRJoe Rogan
So many people send them to me. They go, "Hey, man, is this real?" Like, "Uh, no."
- RWRemi Warren
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
"I never heard of that company, I don't know what they're doing."
- RWRemi Warren
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"They're just jacking my voice."
- RWRemi Warren
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
"And y- It's probably some dude in Nigeria making some money."
- RWRemi Warren
(laughs) Yeah. Sure. Get a free crossbow (laughs) from Joe Rogan.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like (laughs) what?
- RWRemi Warren
Selling free crossbows.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
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