Joe Rogan Experience #2155 - Brian Redban

1. 0:00 – 3:06

   ChatGPT in the green room: AI gadgets, robot vacuums, and “smart” appliances

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) And we're out.

   4. BRBrian Redban0:13

      Wazzup?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Hey, fella.

   6. BRBrian Redban0:14

      Hey, buddy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      What's crackalackin'?

   8. BRBrian Redban0:16

      Nothin'.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Have you been fucking around with the ChatGPT? I saw you brought it.

   10. BRBrian Redban0:19

       Yeah. I got the, uh, I just got the 4.0, the one that they've been showing where you could talk-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       Yeah.

   12. BRBrian Redban0:24

       ... to it naturally and stuff.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Duncan had it in the green room. We were talking shit to it.

   14. BRBrian Redban0:28

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       About it replacing us.

   16. BRBrian Redban0:29

       Yeah. It, it's pretty c- crazy, you know?

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Yeah.

   18. BRBrian Redban0:33

       Like, like, it, it's weird how AI came out of nowhere and then we're like, "We're ... how long has this been, you know, being worked on?"

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Yeah.

   20. BRBrian Redban0:41

       And then now it's, like, everywhere. Like, my, my, uh, uh, vacuum cleaner has AI now. It's crazy.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       What does it do?

   22. BRBrian Redban0:48

       It, uh, it's one of those robot vacs where it scans your whole house and then, like, it de- detects things using AI. Like, "Oh, that's shit. Don't run over it," or ...

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       (laughs)

   24. BRBrian Redban0:58

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       So like if your dog shits on the floor-

   26. BRBrian Redban0:59

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       ... it recognizes dog shit?

   28. BRBrian Redban1:00

       Yeah. And it, and it doesn't do a good job 'cause it, the first thing it did it went right over to this dog shit and just started smearing dog shit through the whole entire kitchen.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       (laughs) Why's your dog shitting in the kitchen?

   30. BRBrian Redban1:09

       'Cause once in a while, you know, dogs, Shih Tzus don't care. They're like, "I, I have to shit. I don't wanna bother anyone."
2. 3:06 – 5:02

   The surveillance PC: Windows “Recall” feature and why ‘local’ still feels creepy

   1. JVJamie Vernon3:06

      I asked Redman. He didn't see this. Did you see this, Joe, going around on Twitter?

   2. BRBrian Redban3:09

      What?

   3. JVJamie Vernon3:10

      There's this feature called Recall on Windows.

   4. BRBrian Redban3:12

      Your Win- what?

   5. JVJamie Vernon3:13

      Here, let me play this for you. It's pretty crazy.

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:14

      It's pretty crazy.

   7. NANarrator3:15

      We introduce memory, right, photographic memory into what you do o- on the PC, and now we have it, so it's called Recall. It's not keyword search, right? It's semantic search over all your history. And it's not just about any docu- and we can recreate moments from the past, essentially.

   8. NANarrator3:32

      Here's how it works. Windows constantly takes screenshots of what's on your screen then uses a generative AI model right on the device along with the NPU to process all that data and make it searchable, even photos. I got to try it out. I searched "brown leather bag." It came up in visual search. There's no place on this page that it says, "brown leather bag." It just knows because it sees this brown leather bag. There could be this reaction from some people that this is pretty creepy. Microsoft is taking screenshots of everything I do.

   9. NANarrator4:07

      Yeah, I mean, that's why that it can only do it on the edge, right? See, this is like ... You know, you can't ... You have to put two things together. This is my computer. This is my recall. Uh, and it's all being done locally.

   10. BRBrian Redban4:20

       Okay.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:21

       Yeah. (laughs)

   12. BRBrian Redban4:22

       (laughs) Texas is going to ban my Recall. Like they're not gonna let me-

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:25

       (laughs)

   14. BRBrian Redban4:25

       ... like it's go- it's gonna be porn. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:26

       I don't trust you at all.

   16. BRBrian Redban4:28

       Yeah. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:29

       I don't trust you at all. "It's all done locally." Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure there's no way the government is gonna have access to every keystroke you make and be able to see a- what ... That's ridiculous.

   18. BRBrian Redban4:41

       And it's gonna summarize everything you're doing.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:43

       Well, not only that, it's not that difficult, especially for government organizations, to get into your fucking computer. Are you connected to a secure wifi? Are you even using a VPN? Are you ... Uh, like what are you doing? What kind of a firewall do you have? How many people are sophisticated enough to set it up so that you can't look at everything they do?

3. 5:02 – 8:11

   Phones rebooting at the worst time: bootloaders, fake-looking screens, and forced updates

   1. BRBrian Redban5:02

      It's like your friend's, uh, phone yest- or yesterday or two days ago.

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:06

      They're remmy ... Yeah. Yesterday ... (laughs)

   3. BRBrian Redban5:06

      Had a straight up virus that he was downloading.

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:08

      People are saying it's not. People are saying it's just like if you have your case on improperly, it's pressing two buttons at the same time or if it were ... Was his phone on the table, Jamie, or is it in his bag?

   5. JVJamie Vernon5:19

      I do not remember.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:21

      I don't remember either. I think if you're pre- I think on some of these Win- uh, Android phones, if you're pressing two buttons at the same time, it reboots. Right? So there's a bootloader mode that's why you can, like, do different things to your phones.

   7. BRBrian Redban5:35

      But that bootloader screen does not look like ... (laughs) It looks so cheap to ... Like it had ... Like I ... It was like the arrow that was in it, I was like, "I've seen this arrow." That's clip art. Like I think it even said Getty Images on the side of it or something. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:48

      (laughs)

   9. NANarrator5:49

      (laughs)

   10. JVJamie Vernon5:49

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:49

       And then just a barcode.

   12. BRBrian Redban5:50

       Yeah. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:50

       Like why does it have a barcode? What are you buying?

   14. BRBrian Redban5:53

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:53

       This is not for sale.

   16. BRBrian Redban5:54

       Right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:54

       Why does it have a barcode?

   18. BRBrian Redban5:55

       Right, and how are you gonna scan that barcode with the phone that you're holding? Like what ... (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:59

       Duh. Like, "Oh, it's got a barcode. It must be legit."

   20. BRBrian Redban6:01

       Right. Yeah, that seems so s- so fake though.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:04

       That was what it looked like.

   22. BRBrian Redban6:04

       Like look at that.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:05

       Uh, look at all that Chinese writing too. That's ... Get the fuck out of here. I guess that's Korean 'cause it's Samsung. Uh, "Do not disconnect USB cable during software update." So it's saying downloading and it says it in Korean.So, it's doing something.

   24. BRBrian Redban6:20

       That, see, that just looks, that does not look official. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:23

       The thing is, my point was, it took a while. And like, what if he broke his leg?

   26. BRBrian Redban6:28

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:28

       Like, what if he just fell on his bike and broke his leg, and now all of a sudden he's gotta call for an ambulance, and he's laying there with his fucking shin bone poking out of his calf, and he's gotta sit there while his stupid phone does that?

   28. BRBrian Redban6:42

       That's why it can't be real.

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:44

       Can you reboot that? Can you stop that? Is that possible?

   30. THTony Hinchcliffe6:47

       That's what I had circled. It said that you could cancel it, but-
4. 8:11 – 12:37

   Why Joe still types: mechanical keyboards, ThinkPad key travel, and writing vs. voice dictation

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:11

      Yeah. Mine just rebooted it, like the moment I opened it up. But I hadn't used that laptop in a while. It was just sitting there. You know what I wanna try? I wanna try a laptop with ... you know I'm a big ke- keyboard fan. Like, one of the reasons why I write, if I write, I have a home, like, Mac that I write on, that is, yeah, those are nice. The mechanicals-

   2. BRBrian Redban8:31

      Newer keyboards.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:32

      Yeah.

   4. BRBrian Redban8:32

      It's the MacBook Pro ones.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:33

      They're, they're dope. It, it really is like a MacBook.

   6. BRBrian Redban8:35

      Yeah, and-

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:36

      So what we're looking at right now is red bands.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe8:38

      This is so skinny, that is.

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:38

      I know. J- Jamie has one.

   10. BRBrian Redban8:40

       Yeah. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:40

       This is the new iPad, which is insane. This is so, it's so insane, it's like it is as thin as possible where you could still s- use a USB-C connector.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe8:51

       Yeah.

   13. BRBrian Redban8:51

       And I thought this was skinny, and that's twice, it's-

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe8:54

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:54

       I know. It's so much, your phone, which is super skinny, is so much fatter than this iPad.

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe8:59

       (laughs) Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:59

       This iPad is amazing. And it has insane battery life too, which is great.

   18. BRBrian Redban9:04

       Oh, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:04

       And this probably has like two terabytes, right?

   20. BRBrian Redban9:05

       10 hours, this is, uh, one terabyte, but you can get up to two terabytes.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:09

       Fucking nuts.

   22. BRBrian Redban9:10

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:10

       Nuts. Um, but what I really like is the keyboards on ThinkPads, 'cause ThinkPads have a longer stroke, and when you're writing, (clears throat) with keys, like, you, you have more feedback with the longer keystrokes, and then you're more accurate with your typing. And it's been proven, like, when people will do like how many words per minute can you write, they can write more words per minute on, on keyboards with better, uh, b- better feedback, like longer keystrokes. But Alienware, you know, because a lot of gamers like mechanical keyboards 'cause they have the clicky-clack feel that it's like even more accurate.

   24. BRBrian Redban9:48

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:48

       Well, they have a k- a k- a mechanical keyboard now on their laptops, and so I've been thinking about getting one of those, but the mechanical key-

   26. BRBrian Redban9:55

       How thick is that laptop though?

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:57

       It's not that thick. So it has long key travel. I think the key travel is 1.8 millimeters, which is like ideal. W- my old ThinkPad had like 2.2, which was nice, long keystrokes. And you just get real accurate with, like, your writing. So for me, like, a lot of times I'm writing, I'm stoned. I don't have time to like go back and put fucking ... you know, I wanna just get it, my thought out while it's in my head. And with an IBM, well, you know, Lenovo now, a Le- Lenovo ThinkPad, I'm just much more accurate when I'm writing.

   28. BRBrian Redban10:30

       I like, I like it, but it sounds ... I don't know, after a while it's like, "God, this is so-"

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:34

       The Mac ones are terrible.

   30. BRBrian Redban10:36

       Yeah.
5. 12:37 – 21:31

   Comedy notes and AI as a ‘writers room’: idea folders, green room tags, and what AI can’t do yet

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:37

      Yeah, that's true. Well, um, m- notes are the best for that.

   2. BRBrian Redban12:40

      Yeah. Yeah, audio notes.

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:41

      For vo... And the thing about the phone is you can do it, like, while you're in the car. You can b- press, like, if you have Apple CarPlay, you press it on the screen-

   4. BRBrian Redban12:50

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:50

      ... and say, "Make a voice note." And then you could just make a note, or just make a note rather, and it'll make a note for you and leave it in there. It's great. So there's many times that I've like, at the end of the night, I've done that, and then I go back over it. So what I do is I have, like, um, a whole folder that's just ideas. So I got this folder.

   6. BRBrian Redban13:10

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:10

      These are just ideas.

   8. BRBrian Redban13:11

      Yeah, I'd have the same.

   9. JRJoe Rogan13:12

      And some of them, a lot of them have become bits, and some of them I'm just like, "Maybe one day I'll have something." And so when I write... Yeah, so when I write, I go back... Same thing, you know?

   10. BRBrian Redban13:22

       (laughs)

   11. NANarrator13:22

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:23

       I go back and I look at those, and I'll see if something comes into my head. I'll say... Like, 'cause you know when you start writing, you're like just staring at that blank screen, like, "What am I writing about?" And then I'll just go into the phone and I'll say, "What do you got for me? What have, what have, what have I been, been thinking about?" Open bor... Oh, borders. Open borders. Okay. Yeah. Okay. What does, what does, what does... What, what would it be like if there was no borders? How... Would that suck? What would it be like if there was more borders? Would that suck? And then I'll just start writing, you know.

   13. BRBrian Redban13:50

       Wouldn't it be cool to take all our notes, put it in an AI, and like combine this into all a one story?

   14. NANarrator13:56

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan13:56

       (laughs)

   16. BRBrian Redban13:56

       Like, like, like a, a 20-page story. (laughs)

   17. NANarrator13:58

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan13:59

       Right, that would be like the perfect new one-hour set.

   19. BRBrian Redban14:01

       Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan14:02

       The thing about AI though is like you, you're gonna m- I've never used AI, like GPT, to write a joke, but I know people who are doing that now. And my thought is, I wouldn't feel as good about it when it was done. Like, I don't want it just to be good. I want it to be good and I want it to have come from my head. You know what I'm saying?

   21. BRBrian Redban14:23

       It's not th-... That's the one thing, it's not there yet. It can't write a good joke. Like, all this, like, shit where you s-

   22. JRJoe Rogan14:29

       Right.

   23. BRBrian Redban14:29

       Like Louis C. K... Or not Louis C. K., but, uh, George Carlin and stuff.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:32

       Uh-huh.

   25. BRBrian Redban14:33

       That's, that's, that's somebody writing that and just doing a G-George Carlin voice.

   26. JRJoe Rogan14:36

       Voice.

   27. BRBrian Redban14:37

       Yeah, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan14:37

       Right, right.

   29. BRBrian Redban14:38

       So... Because-

   30. JRJoe Rogan14:39

       It's not good at writing the jokes yet.
6. 21:31 – 25:18

   Rap beefs and diss tracks: Kendrick vs. Drake, Tupac/Biggie, and why conflict sells

   1. JRJoe Rogan21:31

      Like, we're always laughing and talking shit and having fun, even though things are crazy. Like, we're- we are, what, four years away from artificial people telling us what to do? And everybody's, like, ushering it i- in our own demise, buying things constantly. We're gonna have artificial life forms that are far superior to humans in, like, four years. And everybody's like, "Whatever. What do you think about Drake and Kendrick? I'm on Team Kendrick." (laughs)

   2. BRBrian Redban21:58

      Of course. Everyone is.

   3. JRJoe Rogan22:00

      Everyone seems to be on Team Kendrick.

   4. BRBrian Redban22:01

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan22:02

      Drake slings too much dick.

   6. BRBrian Redban22:03

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan22:03

      People are a little upset about him. He's a little too handsome.

   8. BRBrian Redban22:06

      Yeah, but all the- all the podcasts that every single comedian's ever done is gonna be fed into AI, and they're gonna be the shit talkers, you know? (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan22:12

      I honestly don't know anything about the Drake and Kendrick beef. Uh, every time people talk to me about them, my eyes glaze over. I just can't pay attention. I just d- I can't ... I can't pay attention to grown men beefing with each other publicly. It's just ...

   10. BRBrian Redban22:25

       It's- it's just, like, sexual tension between those two. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan22:29

       (laughs) That's all it is.

   12. BRBrian Redban22:30

       That's all it is.

   13. JRJoe Rogan22:30

       I ... My feeling is always like, "Damn, you guys busted out eight songs that are bangers, shitting on each other. You could've been just writing amazing rap songs, like, elevating human beings, elevating life, you know?" And once you write one diss song about somebody, it can ... It's not enough.

   14. BRBrian Redban22:51

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan22:51

       And then it d- you g- where they keep have to go back and forth and back and forth, like, come on. Come on. I don't even like listening to old school ones. You know? You know, like, like, you know, "That's why I fucked your bitch." (laughs)

   16. BRBrian Redban23:03

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan23:03

       You know, like, you go back and listen to Tupac and Biggie. Like, I love Tupac and I love Biggie. Like, how come I have to choose? How come? How come, uh- how come there's a fight? What's going on?

   18. JVJamie Vernon23:13

       Those songs become so popular. Exactly that.

   19. JRJoe Rogan23:15

       Yeah, not as much as California Love. There's- there's songs that you hear-

   20. JVJamie Vernon23:19

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan23:19

       ... and they make you excited. They make you excited. Th- you know? Like, there's- there's- there's, like, California Love. Like, I remember when Urijah Faber was fighting in the UFC, the California kid. He would always come out to California Love, and the moment you hear it, you're like, "Whoo." That's one of those songs, man. You don't get that with a diss track.

   22. JVJamie Vernon23:37

       Yeah, you do. That's- that came because-

   23. BRBrian Redban23:39

       You do.

   24. JVJamie Vernon23:39

       ... of the East Coast/West Coast beef.

   25. JRJoe Rogan23:40

       This guy.

   26. JVJamie Vernon23:41

       That's how it came. It wouldn't have been-

   27. JRJoe Rogan23:42

       That's where California Love came from?

   28. JVJamie Vernon23:43

       It probably would never have even taken the time to write it if they weren't talking shit back then.

   29. BRBrian Redban23:48

       Yeah.

   30. JVJamie Vernon23:48

       They may have.
7. 25:18 – 33:58

   Kill Tony’s arena takeover: why it works, why it’s culturally huge, and how it breaks ‘woke’ rules

   1. JRJoe Rogan25:18

      That's why he's... I mean your show ... Fuck, first of all, congratu-fucking-lations, dude.

   2. BRBrian Redban25:22

      Thanks, man. (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan25:23

      I mean, you guys are fucking killing it.

   4. BRBrian Redban25:27

      It's insane, dude.

   5. JRJoe Rogan25:28

      You guys are killing it. You guys sold out Madison Square Garden two nights in a row. You guys sold out a giant ass theater in LA and you wanna do another show, so we'll just do the Staple Center.

   6. BRBrian Redban25:38

      (laughs)

   7. NANarrator25:38

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan25:38

      Like, what? You sell, you sell that out like that. It's bananas. You guys are printing money.

   9. BRBrian Redban25:45

      It's ridiculous.

   10. JRJoe Rogan25:46

       And it's the best fucking comedy show in the world. It's the best show. Because, like you guys ... First of all, you guys have been doing it now for 11 years almost. Right? When it'll be 11? December?

   11. BRBrian Redban25:56

       Uh, June, I think.

   12. JRJoe Rogan25:57

       June?

   13. BRBrian Redban25:57

       Yeah. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan25:58

       So it's almost 11 years. So you've been doing it all these t- you gotta... It's polished. You guys are synced up. Everybody knows their position. The band is great. The audience is super aware of how this show works. They're not confused, like, "What's going on? How come he is a minute and what's a ..." Everybody knows how it works and it's just polished. And then you got Tony who's just locked in. The fucking lines he has. So many people do not believe that he comes up with those on the spot. They're like, "Oh, that's all planned out." Like, no, none of it's planned out. That's the magic of it.

   15. BRBrian Redban26:34

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan26:34

       Like especially when him and David go at it. When him and... When David Lucas and Tony Hinchcliffe shit on each other, it's as hard as I ever laughed. There's like compilations of them shitting on each other on YouTube, and in a bunch of 'em it's me, like, red faced-

   17. BRBrian Redban26:48

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan26:48

       ... can't breathe.

   19. BRBrian Redban26:49

       (screams)

   20. JRJoe Rogan26:49

       Holding my, holding my sides just like, "Jesus Christ." They ... It's so funny. It's so good. And I-

   21. BRBrian Redban26:57

       Like, David gets to just call him gay for like, like 15 minutes straight. It's so funny. (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan27:02

       The show went against every single direction that the industry was tryna, trying to tell us the audience was going. The, your show went against all of the woke shit, against all of the, "Don't say this, and don't say that, and this is a forbidden word." Now all of it's out the window and it's the best show. And then the audience is obviously responding. There's not a fucking podcast on Earth that could sell out arenas like you guys are doing. Not one. You guys are selling out Madison Square Garden in an hour. It's nuts. I mean, it's, that's, that's like a cultural phenomena, that's a real audience, where like finally the audience reacts to like, "This is what we want. This is what we've always wanted. We don't think comedy is real life. We're not fucking stupid."

   23. BRBrian Redban27:51

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan27:51

       "Go crazy. Go crazy, say wild shit." And it's g- it's the best for comedy, man.

   25. BRBrian Redban27:57

       It's the Johnny Carson for comics.

   26. JRJoe Rogan27:59

       Mm-hmm.

   27. BRBrian Redban28:00

       And you don't ... Like, it, it, it's also random. And he ... (laughs) You know, you could be doing comedy 10 years or you could be doing comedy your first time and somehow get on Johnny Carson. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan28:08

       You can be doing comedy your first time and get on Johnny Carson-

   29. BRBrian Redban28:11

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan28:11

       ... at the Staple Center.
8. 33:58 – 51:06

   Redban’s health and weight-loss shortcuts: Ozempic fears, DEXA concerns, and trainer nagging

   1. JRJoe Rogan33:58

      Have you thought about doing the Ozempic?

   2. BRBrian Redban34:00

      Uh, no. Isn't it, my doctor, my-

   3. JRJoe Rogan34:03

      Yeah, well, he'll kill you.

   4. BRBrian Redban34:03

      ... uh, testosterone doctor said, uh, "Don't do it." He had one of his patients do it, and she had seizures and had to go to the hospital or something like that, or...

   5. JRJoe Rogan34:10

      Uh, that could, that could happen or you could be hot.

   6. BRBrian Redban34:12

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan34:13

      I mean, come on, bro.

   8. BRBrian Redban34:14

      Well-

   9. JRJoe Rogan34:14

      Don't be a pussy.

   10. BRBrian Redban34:15

       ... there, there, uh, you know the, I don't know if they're sponsoring this, but the HEMs, uh, uh, you know, the hair HEMs.

   11. JRJoe Rogan34:20

       Mm-hmm.

   12. BRBrian Redban34:21

       Uh, they, you, you can get medications through them. They just announced that they're gonna have an Ozempic like clone where it's the same medicine inside Ozempic-

   13. JRJoe Rogan34:27

       Hmm.

   14. BRBrian Redban34:27

       ... but it's gonna be like, uh, one-tenth of the price.

   15. JRJoe Rogan34:31

       What's this?

   16. BRBrian Redban34:31

       Oh, the new South Park.

   17. JRJoe Rogan34:32

       (laughs)

   18. BRBrian Redban34:33

       Have you heard about this?

   19. JRJoe Rogan34:33

       First look at Cartman using Ozempic in South Park.

   20. BRBrian Redban34:36

       (laughs)

   21. NANarrator34:36

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan34:37

       So he's getting smaller, the end of obesity. Oh, no.

   23. BRBrian Redban34:40

       Yeah, it comes out the 24th. Is that out now?

   24. NANarrator34:42

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan34:42

       Is that today?

   26. BRBrian Redban34:43

       Uh, two, two more days.

   27. NANarrator34:45

       No, I don't have it the 5th.

   28. JRJoe Rogan34:47

       Ah. (laughs) Yeah, um, there's some people have real bad side effects apparently.

   29. BRBrian Redban34:52

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan34:52

       But one of the things that, uh, uh, Peter Attia was saying was that, you know, he's a doctor. So he, he, he had, they had tried to see what the effects of these things on the people that wanted to take them. And so they said, "Well, we'll prescribe them to you, but we wanna do DEXA scans. We wanna make sure that we fu-... You know, we wanna really monitor what's going on in your whole body." So one of the things that they found out was that in normal conditions, like say if you lost weight, you know, like most of it would be fat, but a small percentage of it would be lean body mass, like muscle tissue. In Ozempic, most of the loss, like the, when they were, when they were looking at it, the people were losing much more body mass, much more lean tissue and bone mass than was making them comfortable. He's like, "This makes me very uncomfortable." He's like, "These people are getting s-... They're getting lighter and they're getting fatter. Like they're losing muscle tissue and bone."
9. 51:06 – 1:02:23

   Invisible toxins: gas stoves, leaded gasoline IQ loss, and microplastics in testicles

   1. BRBrian Redban51:06

      Yeah. D- do you know anything about this? I don't know if we've ever talked about this, speaking in the kind of same line, uh, about gas, uh, uh, stoves being poisonous for you?

   2. JRJoe Rogan51:15

      Terrible for you. Lower your IQ.

   3. BRBrian Redban51:17

      Yeah, what the fuck, dude?

   4. JRJoe Rogan51:18

      What the fuck, dude?

   5. BRBrian Redban51:19

      The new... The latest reports are, like, scary. (laughs) Like...

   6. JRJoe Rogan51:21

      Not only that, but when I was a kid, I remember, like, you walked by the stove and you could smell it.

   7. BRBrian Redban51:25

      Oh, yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan51:26

      And they're like, "Oh, the pilot light must be out." Like, "Oh."

   9. BRBrian Redban51:29

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan51:30

       "What? Is it just fucking gas-"

   11. BRBrian Redban51:31

       Yeah. (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan51:31

       "... floating around this apartment?"

   13. BRBrian Redban51:33

       Right. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan51:34

       Yeah. That probably lowered our IQs. You know another thing that lowered our IQs? Lead from, from gasoline, when they had leaded gasoline.

   15. BRBrian Redban51:42

       Oh, that's right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan51:43

       Yeah.

   17. BRBrian Redban51:43

       Unleaded to leaded, that's right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan51:45

       Yeah. Lead from gasoline lowered IQs by a measurable amount.

   19. BRBrian Redban51:51

       Whoa.

   20. JRJoe Rogan51:52

       "Kids who lived in homes with gas stoves experienced levels of nitrogen dioxide triple to those who came from homes with electric stoves. Kids from homes with gas stoves fared marginally worse on cognitive tasks, again a point or two out of 100-point scale." So it made them a little dumber. It would probably affect their health-

   21. BRBrian Redban52:13

       What-

   22. JRJoe Rogan52:14

       ... which would also make you a little dumber if you're tired.

   23. BRBrian Redban52:16

       I think the latest study said it- it's like having... It's like breathing in the hi- the highway, like, fumes, uh, in your house, um-

   24. JRJoe Rogan52:23

       Oh, God.

   25. BRBrian Redban52:23

       ... at the same level, like if you just worked on a highway every day.

   26. JRJoe Rogan52:28

       Yeah, how many people have ever gone through their fucking house with, like, an, an air scanner?

   27. BRBrian Redban52:32

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan52:32

       I've never done that.

   29. BRBrian Redban52:33

       No. But I have a lot of those, uh, things that clean the air. I have, like, huge industrial ones all around my house.

   30. JRJoe Rogan52:40

       Oh, that's good.
10. 1:02:23 – 1:09:07

    Tech as a life form: AI takeover theories, civilization cycles, and political decay vibes

    1. BRBrian Redban1:02:23

       When do you think it-

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:02:23

       What are the screens made out of?

    3. BRBrian Redban1:02:24

       ... when do you think it started though? Like, when the first computer was created?

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:02:29

       (sighs)

    5. BRBrian Redban1:02:29

       'Cause (laughs) like, that, and then plastic was made like two months later or something. (laughs)

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:02:32

       I think... This is what I think. I think technology is a life form, and I think it's just a sea of life forms, different kinds of life forms, but they're operating at a different frequency so we don't think of them as a life form. We think of ourselves as a life form because we have sex to make babies, we raise the babies, we have community, we have this like thing that we all do together, but we don't... We, we are a life form, we have, we have clothes, we have a mortgage, we are a life form. This is just a thing I made. This is just a computer. This is just an electric car. This is just a thing. I think there's a misunderstanding of the relationship and I think that us, the smart monkeys, make this, we make this. And our desire for this is what fuels constant innovation. No one's ever satisfied. No matter how dope everything is, even if your refrigerator got the exact expiration date of your orange juice, even if your phone had 100 hour battery life, no one's happy. "I want the new one. The new one's 150. I could just charge it once and use it for a month. Yay," and no one's gonna be happy no matter what. "200 megapixel, this guy's 2 million, I can see the sun." No one's gonna be happy. You're not gonna be happy until you could see past Jupiter. (laughs) You're not gonna be happy until you could fucking look on your phone and see the inside of a black hole, and then you won't be happy because this new phone, this new phone can get you to the Big Bang if it ever really happened, if that ever really happened. You can go back to that. The, the new phone will let you see everything. You can literally look into the past with the new phone. Well, the new phone, after the new phone, lets you create the past in a different way. You can actually go back in time with the new phone. It'll just never stop. It'll never stop, and we're gonna be trans. Everyone's gonna... (laughs) Everyone's gonna shrivel up, we're all gonna be non-binary, it's, there's no way out of it. We're poisoning ourselves and we're not hitting the brakes, and we're gonna, we're just gonna slide into this genderless future, and some people are gonna be really happy about it, and I think they wrote about it in the Bible when they said, "The meek will inherit the Earth."

    7. BRBrian Redban1:04:50

       (laughs)

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:04:52

       I think it's in the Bible, and I'm not kidding.

    9. BRBrian Redban1:04:54

       Oh, God. (laughs) No.

    10. THTony Hinchcliffe1:04:55

        (laughs)

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:04:55

        I'm not kidding. As more time goes on, I'm not kidding.

    12. BRBrian Redban1:04:57

        (laughs)

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:04:57

        I think, I think the Bible got that one right. (laughs)

    14. THTony Hinchcliffe1:05:02

        (laughs)

    15. BRBrian Redban1:05:02

        Oh, my God.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:05:02

        I think they didn't... I think, you know, a lot got lost in translation, they forgot to mention plastics turning into a bitch, but that's what it is.

    17. BRBrian Redban1:05:11

        And that's why I think Noah's Ark is real, Brian.

    18. THTony Hinchcliffe1:05:13

        (laughs)

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:05:13

        I don't think that's real, but I, I do think that... I do think that we're on, uh, a slide of a cycle that probably has been predicted by cultures that study the rise and declines of civilizations because... It's hard to say because everything is written down, right? And when everything's written down, it's written down by the people who won, so you have like approximations of how things went down and why someone said this, and sometimes you don't really know, especially going back like 2,000, 3,000 years ago. But I think if you get an overall understanding of what happens when a country takes over, and when, like, things start happening, and it seems like you get, like these badass warriors, these savage people who dominate a place and take control and then start to prosper and everything starts kicking ass, and then you have ancient Rome, and you have Ancient Greece, but all of 'em fall apart, all of 'em are gone, all of 'em. You go to Rome now, it's a joke, it's cab drivers and fucking shitty tourist pizza places. You know, it used to be the center of the fucking universe and now it's a joke. It's a great place to visit, don't get me wrong, it's beautiful, the Colosseum's amazing, I recommend it, it's good. The Vatican is fucking incredible, but it's not running the world, it's not, it's not the, the head of the army of the world. It used to be. It used to be the baddest motherfuckers that conquered everything. Same thing with Mongolia. I mean, when Genghis Khan was running things, then they, they had killed 10% of the population from that spot. He was dominating like a, a giant chunk of the world. And now it's just a regular place, you know, 'cause it fell apart. They all fall apart. And so some people have studied the rise and fall of civilizations, and they say you can, you can really predict it. It's just like when things start going too well, people start getting really soft and silly and entitled, and you get the rise of people that are trying to get attention for no fucking reason and you get debauchery. And then with Rome, it's always connected with like Sodom and Gomorrah stuff, and the, you know, there was all just, uh, they were all just fucking each other and eating till they could, puked and then go back and eat again. You know, there's always those stories of gluttony, and, and it's just like they... It eventually falls apart, and it always does. And if that's true-... that's where we're at. We're at this crazy part. We're at this crazy part.

    20. NANarrator1:07:42

        Right before.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:07:43

        Right before. (laughs)

    22. NANarrator1:07:44

        (laughs) Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:07:44

        Where the president is, like, clearly gone-

    24. NANarrator1:07:47

        (laughs)

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:07:47

        ... and everybody's like, "No, he's amazing." Everybody's... All these fucking people, because they don't want the other guy to win, are just lying to everyone and ruining their credibility, 'cause no one's admitting, like... Okay, I'm willing to vote Democrat. Show me one that says something that makes sense that I can trust that's not dying. Just show-

    26. NANarrator1:08:09

        (laughs)

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:08:09

        Show me one that's younger. Show me one, show me one that is a reasonable centrist that makes sense with all this. But they don't wanna do that. They just wanna keep trotting this crazy s- situation out, where you get this Alzheimer's patient or whatever he's got, dementia. And he's l- like, making shit up and just saying things and everybody has to correct him. And it's like... But... And everyone knows what's going on, but no one on one side w- is willing to say it, because if you say it, then it's gonna empower Trump, who's Hitler. It's like, "Holy shit, kids. This is a... This is not good. This is not a good place to be." And this is, like, what you would expect of a society that's collapsing. You just never wanna think your society is gonna collapse, like, "No, dude, the Romans were retarded." Like, "Those guys were idiots. They didn't know what to do. They, they should've stopped throwing up." Start fucking e-... Stop fucking each other and just go to work. Fix your streets.

11. 1:09:07 – 1:17:59

    Electing an AI president: open-source vs. corporate control, then live Q&A with ChatGPT voice

    1. NANarrator1:09:07

       AI will be our president someday. (laughs)

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:09:09

       I don't think, I don't think that's the worst idea.

    3. NANarrator1:09:11

       No, it'd be the best.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:09:12

       I think about it a lot. I think about it as, m- a scary thing, because w- it would be hard to argue with it. Like, if it could say that it could manage people in a far more fair and even way, and completely eliminate this high-level poverty that we see in the country, and reduce crime, like, radically, why wouldn't you let it do it?

    5. NANarrator1:09:37

       We should have a beta. The whole country should have a beta test of it. Like, all right, we're gonna do it per-week basis.

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:09:42

       What do you think it would do?

    7. NANarrator1:09:43

       It'd probably clean up and be... Fix everything and... (laughs)

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:09:46

       Why don't we ask AI? Let's, uh, ask it. Let's ask, um, ChatGPT 4o, how do I phrase this? Um...

    9. NANarrator1:09:55

       Hold on, let me...

    10. JVJamie Vernon1:09:56

        I was thinking of one. Would you rather have it, (clears throat) like, one AI, like, one AI overlord president with, like, five, you know, f- three to five people that can check on it? Or, like, a cabinet of AI with one person picking those decisions?

    11. NANarrator1:10:10

        Oh yeah, cabinet of AI. O- absolutely.

    12. JVJamie Vernon1:10:13

        Like, a transportation-focused, or...

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:10:14

        I- Yeah, but I don't think one person should be in charge of picking that.

    14. JVJamie Vernon1:10:17

        Or yeah, just maybe a- maybe three to five watching that then.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:10:19

        No. Maybe, maybe a large group of people to prevent corruption and tyranny. You have to be real careful with that. But I think that if you... 'Cause people are gonna r- Look, we've already seen it with social media. People that are, like, ideologically captured are gonna try to suppress accurate information because they don't think it's gonna be good for their side. If you don't think they're gonna do that with AI, if they have some method of controlling systems, they're gonna do it.

    16. NANarrator1:10:45

        Mm-hmm.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:10:45

        But I think that if you had only one AI, that's way more dangerous than having a bunch of AIs. And I think one of the most important things that's happening right now is open source AI, right? So you have these AIs that wanna be controlled, they wanna control AI, like Gemini, Google wants to control it. But what they're trying to do, what the open source people are trying to do, is have more people involved, get it better, and, and keep it open source, so you never have one AI that's dominating everything. And if the open source AI, if it succeeds, and this is the best one, that's better for everybody. And if it can get through that door fast enough where it gets through that door before these corporate-controlled AIs-

Episode duration: 2:31:55