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Joe Rogan Experience #2158 - Harland Williams

Harland Williams is a stand-up comic, author, actor, musician, and host of "The Harland Highway" podcast. www.harlandwilliams.com

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May 30, 20242h 31mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 2:29

    30+ Years of Friendship, Hyper-Memory Jokes, and Mary Lou Henner

    1. JR

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

    3. JR

      Oh, boy. I, I think I've known you for 30 years. You know how crazy that is?

    4. HW

      31.

    5. JR

      Is it really?

    6. HW

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      Wow.

    8. HW

      I remember the day we met-

    9. JR

      Really?

    10. HW

      ... at Baskin-Robbins on Melrose.

    11. JR

      Really?

    12. HW

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      Did we meet at Baskin-Robbins?

    14. HW

      Baskin-Robbins. I got one of those memories like, uh, the girl from Taxi.

    15. JR

      Oh, do you really?

    16. HW

      You got a mint chocolate chip double scoop, and I had peanut butter and chocolate.

    17. JR

      (laughs) I think you're making this up.

    18. HW

      Well-

    19. JR

      I don't know yet. I- I think you're making this up. He's making this up. I was like, "Hold on. Let's see how this goes." But then again- Yeah, as soon as he was saying- ... that's (laughs) he's got a memory like the lady from Taxi, I was like, that ...

    20. HW

      And I couldn't even remember her name. (laughs)

    21. JR

      That's ... Yeah. That's ... (laughs)

    22. HW

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      (laughs) That lady's got a crazy memory. She does. She can tell you, like, dates in 1972, what day it was.

    24. HW

      Dude, I bumped into her at a sushi joint once, and she reenacted the day I lost my virginity.

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. HW

      It was unbelievable.

    27. JR

      Wow.

    28. HW

      She remembered it.

    29. JR

      How does she know?

    30. HW

      'Cause it was her.

  2. 2:29 – 3:48

    Elephants, Animal Intelligence, and 'Planet of the Apes' as a Warning

    1. HW

      Maybe she's an elephant.

    2. JR

      Those ... The ... I don't think their memory's that good.

    3. HW

      They say they are.

    4. JR

      (inhales deeply) Yeah, but, like, shit that you would remember, too.

    5. HW

      Right. Like, how often do you watch one of those nature shows and you see, like, elephants wandering around aimlessly and you know they're looking for their car-

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. HW

      ... 'cause they can't remember where (laughs) they parked. Idiots.

    8. JR

      Imagine if elephants could drive. That'd be a real problem.

    9. HW

      Oh, God.

    10. JR

      How big would their fucking car be? How big would the-

    11. HW

      Wow.

    12. JR

      ... roads have to be?

    13. HW

      Wow.

    14. JR

      If anybody else, any other animals, started developing electronics, I think we'd just kill 'em.

    15. HW

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      Be like, "What the fuck are you doing over there?" Like, we wouldn't be cool with chimps fastening their own weapons. If they started making guns-

    17. HW

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      ... if chimps started smelting iron-

    19. HW

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      ... and, like, figuring out ballistics, you'd see chimps on the range.

    21. HW

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      Be like, be like, "Hey, hey, hey, only us."

    23. HW

      Yeah. Well, isn't that what Planet of the Apes is all about? Like-

    24. JR

      Similar, yeah.

    25. HW

      ... they evolved to the point where-

    26. JR

      Wasn't the new one, like, experiments? Wasn't it, like, some kind of experiments? On how it's ... on how it, like, kicked off? (chair creaks) Like, there w- they would do ... Like, back in the day, it was, like, a time machine thing. Like, they went ... Right? Like, the really old ones-

    27. HW

      Yeah, the first one.

    28. JR

      ... there was a time machine, and you go f- forward in time, and you realize, like, "Oh my God. The apes are now humans, and we're, we're bullshit."

    29. HW

      Yeah. They landed so far in the future on-

    30. JR

      Yeah.

  3. 3:48 – 5:12

    Twilight Zone Love: Practical Effects, Iconic Episodes, and 'To Serve Man'

    1. HW

      ... Earth. You know who wrote that one? Rod Serling.

    2. JR

      Oh, did he really?

    3. HW

      Yeah.

    4. JR

      He was the-

    5. HW

      From Twilight Zone.

    6. JR

      ... fucking man. He was the-

    7. HW

      He was way ahead of his time.

    8. JR

      ... fucking man, with everything.

    9. HW

      Genius.

    10. JR

      So many good episodes.

    11. HW

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      You go back to watch The Twilight Zone, it's like go- ... No production value, no money for special effects.

    13. HW

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      Incredible show.

    15. HW

      And that's what was part of their charm. But the music, every-

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. HW

      ... everything worked, and if you look at a lotta modern-day movies, they were predicated on those old shows. Like Chucky, there's an old, uh-

    18. JR

      Oh, right.

    19. HW

      ... episode with Telly Savalas. Talky Tina. "Hi."

    20. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    21. HW

      "I'm Talky Tina, and I'm going to kill you," 'cause this was a doll.

    22. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    23. HW

      Remember? Fast-forward to Chucky, that demented red-headed freckle-faced freak.

    24. JR

      Look at that.

    25. HW

      There she is. Talky Tina.

    26. JR

      You know what my favorite one was? To Serve Man.

    27. HW

      Oh yeah, it's a cookbook.

    28. JR

      (laughs)

    29. HW

      Yeah. And then Julia Childs walks out of the UFO.

    30. JR

      (laughs)

  4. 5:12 – 8:32

    Placenta Smoothies, Nature’s Brutality, and Predator-Prey Ecosystems

    1. HW

      Speaking of human cookbooks-

    2. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    3. HW

      ... I have a buddy who just had a kid, and they ... He told me him and his wife made placenta smoothies.

    4. JR

      (inhales deeply)

    5. HW

      And I'm sitting here going, "What if you love them ... What if you love the taste of your own kid, and one day you're with Billy at the park, and you're just looking at him, and you're like ..." You know, you start licking your lips like, "He sure did taste good." And then-

    6. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    7. HW

      ... cannibalism, and he ... You eat your own kid. I don't know-

    8. JR

      I don't think it's actually eating your own kid. I think it's eating the nutrients that provide nourishment to the kid while it's in the womb. It's not ... You're not eating the kid. The kid is separate from the placenta.

    9. HW

      It is?

    10. JR

      Yeah. The kid is an actual, you know-

    11. HW

      Oh, I thought it was covered-

    12. JR

      ... fetus.

    13. HW

      ... like, you know when a ... when a gazelle drops its baby on the Kalahari-

    14. JR

      Uh-huh.

    15. HW

      ... and it, like, licks all that f- that film off it? Isn't that placenta? Or is that just like a pasta sauce?

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. HW

      It's like carbonara.

    18. JR

      Uh, I think that is placenta, right? I mean, it probably must be.

    19. HW

      So, isn't that what human kids have? Don't they have that-

    20. JR

      But it's-

    21. HW

      ... like, gazelle s-

    22. JR

      ... but it's not the kid itself.

    23. HW

      Oh.

    24. JR

      It's the nutrients that the kid was consuming while they were in the woo- ... I believe. Obviously, I'm not a doctor.

    25. HW

      Yeah. Look at this. They eat the-

    26. JR

      Uh, is this one gonna drop it?

    27. HW

      They eat that-

    28. JR

      She about to drop?Boy, how vulnerable are they when they're giving birth? Oh, fuck.

    29. HW

      Oh, yeah.

    30. JR

      And f- half of those kids get snatched up immediately-

  5. 8:32 – 11:05

    New Zealand’s Introduced Game Animals, Elk Calls, and the 'Monster Sound' of the Wild

    1. JR

      And d- You, like, you'd, you'd have a situation where you have, like, in New Zealand, where they have to fly over the hills and just gun them down.

    2. HW

      Moose in-

    3. JR

      No, they have-

    4. HW

      ... New Zealand?

    5. JR

      ... The, in New Zealand... N- New Zealand's a wild place.

    6. HW

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      I mean, literally, but-

    8. HW

      There's gnolls.

    9. JR

      ... it's beautiful, so beautiful.

    10. HW

      Elfs.

    11. JR

      But they got there in, I guess, the 1700s or something like that-

    12. HW

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      ... maybe the 1800s, and these European settlers, these Euro- European explorers are like, "This place is so beautiful, but it doesn't have any things for us to kill. Why don't we bring in-

    14. HW

      Hm.

    15. JR

      ... a bunch of wild animals from Europe that we like to kill?" And so they turned it into, like, a wild game safari park for hunting.

    16. HW

      Geezoo.

    17. JR

      Yeah, so there's all these animals, like stags and all these different kinds of deer, all these animals that are not supposed to be in New Zealand.

    18. HW

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      And they're everywhere. (laughs) They just overwhelm it. Like, if you buy elk, like, if you go, go to a restaurant and you buy elk tenderloin-

    20. HW

      Okay.

    21. JR

      ... most likely, that elk is coming from New Zealand.

    22. HW

      No.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. HW

      There's elk in New Zealand?

    25. JR

      A lot of elk in New Zealand, and it's probably... They probably k- are allowed to consider stag elk too. I don't think they, they... I don't... That's a good question. I, I don't know. It's that they're so similar. They're such a similar animal.

    26. HW

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      They probably taste exactly the same. The only thing that... E- elk, uh, elk have a cool sound, but stags have a really cool... Stags sound like a lion. You ever heard a stag roar?

    28. HW

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      It's really fucking cool.

    30. HW

      And that wh- when they mate, the, the, the male elks do that whistle, the... (imitates elk call) You know? That sounds like a-

  6. 11:05 – 15:26

    Big Cats, the Flehmen Response, and Harland’s Safari Terror Story

    1. HW

      And then they go into, uh, the, um, the li- the big cats go into a flehmen. You know this?

    2. JR

      Flehmen?

    3. HW

      I ran into problems with girl friends 'cause of this. It's, like, when, when the female lions or the leopards, they, they get ripe. You know what I mean? Ready to party.

    4. JR

      Yeah. Let's go.

    5. HW

      The, uh, the lions and the cheetahs and the l- they, they do this thing where they smell the female scent and they... (sniffs)

    6. JR

      Oh.

    7. HW

      You know they do this thing where they, they curl their lip up.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. HW

      And it's, like, a sexual thing, and that... I, I... for some reason, I don't know why, but I do that when I'm about to get into some love making.

    10. JR

      You do a little bit of that?

    11. HW

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      Like, do you, like, embody the lion?

    13. HW

      I don't know. I just have the thing where-

    14. JR

      You feel it?

    15. HW

      ... I (sniffs) and, and-

    16. JR

      The leopard?

    17. HW

      ... e- and it... They never stick around. Yeah.

    18. JR

      Flehmen response takes place when one lion of either sex sniffs or smells the urine of another. Chemicals and hormones contained in the urine elicit the flehmen response. Usually, after smelling the urine patch on the ground or vegetation, the cat it's doing the smelling will lift its head, his or her head and hold their lips back in a strong grimace. Let me see it. Yeah. Like that.

    19. HW

      You know, and I gotta-

    20. JR

      That's just like him. Look.

    21. HW

      I gotta start ga- dating girls that wipe, I guess.

    22. JR

      Look at that face.

    23. HW

      Because that urine.

    24. JR

      Yeah. Imagine looking at that right before it fucking closes down on your neck. And go, "Oh, yeah. I'm not getting out of this." There is fucking no escape. There's no hip escape. There's no jujitsu move. (laughs) There's no, there's no poking in the eye. That's a wrap, it's a wrap. Look at that mouth. That is a wrap, a wrappity-wrap.

    25. HW

      I had a moment when I was on safari in Africa where it's the only time in my life I started shaking.

    26. JR

      Ooh.

    27. HW

      We, we, we were on a private Land Rover. We came up on two male lions that had just made a kill. We were literally probably, I'd say, 25 feet from them.

    28. JR

      (sighs)

    29. HW

      And one of them got up, and we're in the open Land Rover, right-

    30. JR

      Right.

  7. 15:26 – 18:04

    Lion Park Disaster in Florida: The Zebra Car Breaks Down in a Pride

    1. HW

      So I was in Florida once.

    2. JR

      (sighs)

    3. HW

      And I was doing a gig, like, on one side of Florida and had to cross over to the other side.

    4. JR

      Whoa.

    5. HW

      And, and in between-

    6. JR

      Were you walking?

    7. HW

      No (laughs) , no, no. Daddy had a... Here's where it got clunky, right?

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. HW

      I rented a convertible, right?

    10. JR

      Oh boy.

    11. HW

      'Cause it's, it's Florida.

    12. JR

      Right.

    13. HW

      So I had time to kill, so I looked on the thing. Halfway across, there's a lion safari where you can drive through, right?

    14. JR

      And you drove through in a convertible?

    15. HW

      No, so I pulled up.

    16. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    17. HW

      And they said, "Sir, you can't go through with a convertible, but for 10 extra dollars, we'll rent you one of our little junkers." And the junkers were painted like a zebra-

    18. JV

      (laughs)

    19. HW

      ... 'cause it was a lion park. So they painted them with stripes. It was, like, a piece of crap that was just meant to go through the two-mile park and out. So it's like a million degrees. It's Florida. It's Tuesday on a, at 1:00 in the afternoon. No one's there 'cause I'm cutting across the country. This is, like, a weekend place. They put me (laughs) in this zebra mobile. I'm all alone in this park. I get right in the middle of the lion thing. There's, like, 60 lions. The car conks out, 300 degrees, no AC 'cause it's an old junker, and I just got 60 lions just going, "Zebra?" And I'm just sitting there.

    20. JR

      Oh my-

    21. HW

      No one's coming.

    22. JR

      ... God.

    23. HW

      Daddy's sitting there in the, in the pride.

    24. JR

      How long did you have to sit there for?

    25. HW

      I sat there for about 15, 20 minutes 'til they came, and I gotta crack the window 'cause it's like a, it's like a dog in a Walmart parking lot.

    26. JR

      (sighs)

    27. HW

      And it was... And I, I'm sitting there going, "I'm, I'm a zebra."

    28. JR

      You could-

    29. HW

      I'm sitting there. "I'm a zebra."

    30. JR

      You could die of heat exposure in there.

  8. 18:04 – 20:04

    Language Madness: Homophones, Learning Difficulty, and Vietnam 'Tours' Wordplay

    1. JR

      If you were trying to learn American English, like how we use things-

    2. HW

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      ... like or just English, and you spoke another language that was more logical, you'd be like, "What the fuck? Why do you have different words?" (laughs)

    4. HW

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      Why do you have the same word that means such different things?

    6. HW

      Like the word rose. Isn't there, like, seven different meanings for the word rose? The flower.

    7. JR

      Well, there's the flower.

    8. HW

      You rose up.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. HW

      Rows of corn.

    11. JR

      Right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

    12. HW

      Like, it's just like...

    13. JR

      Right.

    14. HW

      It just goes on.

    15. JR

      Thank God. I didn't think of rows of corn, yeah.

    16. HW

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      Yeah. Rose the boat, yeah. Oh my God, there's so many.

    18. HW

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      That's so stupid.

    20. HW

      Well, there's two there. There's R-O-S-E and R-O-W-S.

    21. JR

      Same sound.

    22. HW

      Same thing, yeah.

    23. JR

      Did you run out of sounds?

    24. HW

      Yeah, you could've called-

    25. JR

      Obviously, you didn't.

    26. HW

      You couldn't-

    27. JR

      They're making new pronoun sounds every day.

    28. HW

      Yeah. You couldn't have called rows of corn, like, clonk of corn?

    29. JR

      Yeah. Something that ma- that doesn't make me fucking confused.

    30. HW

      (sighs)

  9. 20:04 – 25:25

    The Tapeworm Saga: 'Dmitri,' Celery Crunching, and Parasite Folklore

    1. HW

      And I found out. Um, do you mind if I just dip into a... I brought a little something, I have to do it about every 20 minutes. I do apologize.

    2. JR

      What is it?

    3. HW

      I have to... I have an eating thing I have to do.

    4. JR

      Really?

    5. HW

      Well, if you don't mind.

    6. JR

      No, no, not at all. No.

    7. HW

      Thank you. Oh, God.

    8. JR

      What is your eating thing?

    9. HW

      Uh, (laughs) I'm a little embarrassed, but, um... Uh...

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. HW

      I have a tapeworm.

    12. JR

      For real?

    13. HW

      Yeah. Like a f- it's ab- almost 4 feet. Have you ever had one?

    14. JR

      You really do?

    15. HW

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      I never know with you, you know? I don't know if I should feel bad or start mocking you.

    17. HW

      Well, you can do whatever. I'm... I didn't even wanna bring it up.

    18. JR

      I don't know if, like, I feel bad if it's true. You have a real tapeworm?

    19. HW

      I do.

    20. JR

      How'd you get it, you think?

    21. HW

      I was in the Galapagos Islands recently, and, uh, we... They have a, uh, a rodent over there called the Bermuda eel rat. And it's not, it's not a documented species. It's the, it's the local jargon.

    22. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    23. HW

      Everything evolves in... As you know, through Darwin, everything evolved over in, uh, in, in the Galapagos, the tortoises, everything. It's a unique place where evolution took place. And I guess this rat became a bit elongated, its spine, and so they call it the... It came off of... Originally off of Bermuda, like, uh, transport ship or something.

    24. JR

      Right.

    25. HW

      And so they eat it over there. And I ate the damn thing, and I got a parasite that led to a tapeworm, and she's about a four-footer.

    26. JR

      What do they do to get it out, get it out?

    27. HW

      Well, they have, uh, pills. Um, but this is... I don't even know if I should talk about this, but I... It's a little odd. I sorta got attached to the little fella.

    28. JR

      Oh, you like having it now?

    29. HW

      Well, you know, we h- we hear all this talk about, you know, women and men, and men can have babies. They're telling men they can have children.

    30. JR

      So you got a little baby tapeworm?

  10. 25:25 – 49:57

    Staph Infections, MRSA, and Real-World Risk from Combat Sports

    1. JR

      Staph infection.

    2. HW

      No way. How many people on your staff?

    3. JR

      (laughs) It was a small business.

    4. HW

      Wow.

    5. JR

      Yeah.

    6. HW

      Wow.

    7. JR

      Yeah, just one employee.

    8. HW

      What's a staph infection?

    9. JR

      It's, uh, it- it's an infection that you get on your skin, uh, and, um-

    10. HW

      Hmm.

    11. JR

      ... it's- it's-

    12. HW

      It's like a bacterial infection?

    13. JR

      Exactly. It's really common in jujitsu, and, uh, a lot of people get it and they don't recognize it. Ari actually had it, and Ari didn't know he had it until I pointed it out.

    14. HW

      Hmm.

    15. JR

      And we got him to the hospital, like, right away. Ari and I were playing pool and he was limping. I'm like, "Why are you limping?"

    16. HW

      What?

    17. JR

      And he goes, "I got a spider bite." And I go, "Let me see it."

    18. HW

      Hmm.

    19. JR

      And he pulls his pants up and his knee, he has this swollen, like, pimple on his knee and the pus at the end of it.

    20. HW

      Oh.

    21. JR

      I go, "Dude, you have a staph infection." I go, "We gotta get you to the hospital right now." He goes, "Are you serious?"

    22. HW

      Is it lethal?

    23. JR

      I go, um-

    24. HW

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      It's lethal. Yeah.

    26. HW

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      People die. If it gets systemic, if staph infections get systemic, if your body becomes septic, like, you could die. Yeah, people have died from staph. It happens all the time. You get-

    28. HW

      Yeah, people get it in hospitals a lot, don't they?

    29. JR

      Yes. And unfortunately-

    30. HW

      Wow.

  11. 49:57 – 59:20

    Animal Noises, Joe’s Dog ‘Carl/Marshall,’ Thunderstorms, and Weather Dangers

    1. JR

      Imagine what they can smell.

    2. HW

      You ever do that noise when you're making love?

    3. JR

      No. My wife will go-

    4. HW

      Why not?

    5. JR

      ... "What the fuck are you doing?"

    6. HW

      Dude, it's primal. Women love it.

    7. JR

      She doesn't make fun of me, she'd get up and leave.

    8. HW

      No, I'm... Here's an experiment from me to you.

    9. JR

      Okay, just make animal noises.

    10. HW

      I want you to try that. Next time you're making love, not to get into your pers- I respect your s- personal space, but doggie style (dog barking) right by her ear...

    11. JR

      (growling)

    12. Just be gentle, Carl.

    13. (Ruffing and growling)

    14. Carl just started barking.

    15. (Hissing) Yip!

    16. L- listen to Carl. Listen to Carl.

    17. (whining) Ruff! (barking) Yow! Yow!

    18. HW

      Wow.

    19. JR

      Have you ever seen Carl do that? Has Carl ever done that before?

    20. HW

      Wow.

    21. JR

      There are a few noises in here that have w- woke him up, but he's...

    22. HW

      Wow.

    23. JR

      He's fired up. That is crazy. Look at... He really believes. I have a, a, like, if calling dogs was a thing-

    24. HW

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      ... I'd have a, like, a really good career in call, dog calling.

    26. HW

      Let's hear your growl.

    27. JR

      (growling)

    28. (ruffing and growling) Yeah, pretty good.

    29. Dude, you gotta.

    30. Carl's, Carl believes it. (whining)

  12. 59:20 – 1:11:07

    Volcano Lightning, 'Lightning from the Ground,' and Matrix/Deja Vu Conspiracy Bits

    1. JR

      Not just the... Have you seen what's going on right now in, um, where is it where there's, uh, these insa- is it Uruguay? Where is it where there's insane, uh, lightning storms that are coming out of that volcano?

    2. HW

      Oh, yeah, I saw that.

    3. JR

      Have you seen that? Yeah, it's a different kind of lightning.

    4. HW

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      So it's the, it's the, the s- the particles, the charged particles that are being released by the lava ignites-

    6. HW

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      ... with the air somehow. I will, we'll get someone to explain it.

    8. HW

      Yeah. And the smoke too.

    9. JR

      So it's a different kind of lightning.

    10. HW

      The steam, the particles-

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. HW

      ... get caught in the steam, the translucent-

    13. JR

      And it makes these insane lightning sh- shows.

    14. HW

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Like look at this.

    16. HW

      Yeah.

    17. JV

      Indonesia?

    18. JR

      Indonesia.

    19. HW

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      But it was, it's been going on like a lot lately. Like even during the day. There's a lot of films on TikTok and, and Instagram and stuff about it. Bro, that is so bonkers. (laughs) That mean if you were alive 5,000 years ago and you saw that, you're like, "Oh, Satan, that's where Satan lives."

    21. HW

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      "Satan's back. Fuck, he's back. Dude, I got news everybody."

    23. HW

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      "We're fucked, man, Satan's back."

    25. HW

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      "Look, look at the mountain."

    27. HW

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      "Satan landed on top of the mountain. He's there with lightning and shit."

    29. HW

      There he is.

    30. JR

      Like he was def-

  13. 1:11:07 – 1:18:23

    Living Through Tech Acceleration: From No Internet to AI Deepfakes

    1. JR

      We have gone through one of the weirdest lives, you know? And if, if the simulation is real, and if you wanted... If the simulation wanted you to go through the most profound changes that human beings have ever experienced in the time of their life, just in, just in how people interface with the world, you and I have done that.

    2. HW

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      We, we, we exist, we were born in a time where there was no internet and you got your news from television and everybody had a, sort of a limited understanding of the world. You could bullshit your way through most things 'cause nobody could Google you, nobody could get a book on you. You couldn't just run to the library and find out if Mike was telling the truth about his war stories.

    4. HW

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      You, you had to just believe people.

    6. HW

      You had the microfiche things, yeah. (laughs)

    7. JR

      Everything was possible.

    8. HW

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      The world was a different place. You know, then there's answering machines and cellphones and then the, the internet comes along, and now we're living in a fucking insane world where AI is about to take over.

    10. HW

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      Like, if you were gonna pick a timeline to go through, if it wasn't real and you wanted the most profound adventure-

    12. HW

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      ... you've chosen that.

    14. HW

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      You've chosen the most profound changes that people will experience in a relatively safe timeline.

    16. HW

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      Relatively safe in comparison to, like, the Genghis Khan days or the, you know, the days of the Roman Empire.

    18. HW

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      Like, just relatively safe in comparison.

    20. HW

      But profound changes for this moment.

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. HW

      And we're accelerating so rapidly, Joe, that things are going to be at a whole nother level quickly where we're gonna be looking in the rear view mirror and going, "Oh yeah, AI." Remember that?

    23. JR

      Mm-hmm. Yeah.

    24. HW

      There's gonna be something that takes us to the next level, and, and then another level after that. We are gonna transcend so far that I don't even know what humans and humanity looks like in a thousand years, if not less.

    25. JR

      Oh, not... I don't think it's even 50 years.

    26. HW

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      That's what's crazy. You and I are living through the weirdest time ever.

    28. HW

      Yeah, because it started, like, we kinda had... In high school for us, it was the Texas Instrument calculator-

    29. JR

      Yep.

    30. HW

      ... was the mind blower.

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