Joe Rogan Experience #2168 - Tyler Fischer

Joe Rogan 0:00 (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Oh. (laughs) Hey, Joe Rogan.

Joe Rogan 0:15 (laughs) What's going on?

Tyler Fischer 0:16 Is there a left or right here, or does it matter?

Joe Rogan 0:17 No, it's all mono. What's cracking, brother?

Tyler Fischer 0:20 Ha, ah, yeah. Let me just get a little, uh, a little confidence here.

Joe Rogan 0:24 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 0:26 I'm so small. This is like a large coffee to me.

Joe Rogan 0:30 The- they'll make you pee. They'll make you pee. That's one thing Nespresso will do.

Tyler Fischer 0:32 I'm peeing right now, dude. I'm just gonna do the Biden, just let it out.

Joe Rogan 0:35 Ari peed in that seat three or four times yesterday.

Tyler Fischer 0:39 Yesterday?

Joe Rogan 0:40 Yeah, he- he pissed into Bud Light cans.

Narrator 0:43 Yup.

Joe Rogan 0:44 He's so disgusting.

Tyler Fischer 0:45 Ari Shaffir?

Joe Rogan 0:45 Every t- oh, yeah, every time he's here-

Tyler Fischer 0:47 Oh, I didn't know he was here.

Joe Rogan 0:47 ... he pees into things.

Tyler Fischer 0:49 I'm trying to get him to move here.

Joe Rogan 0:51 Uh, he's not going to. He's a New York rat.

Tyler Fischer 0:53 Yeah, he's, yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:54 But he's here all the time. I mean, he might as well live here. He's here like four or five times a year.

Tyler Fischer 0:59 Yeah, just-

Joe Rogan 1:00 Good enough.

Tyler Fischer 1:00 ... I mean, it's good enough.

Joe Rogan 1:02 He should. He should move here.

Tyler Fischer 1:04 He's so funny, man. I love watching him at the Comedy Cellar, 'cause he's one of the guys that just fucking goes for it.

Joe Rogan 1:11 Yeah, he go- he definitely goes for it. It's gotten him in a lot of trouble. (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 1:16 (laughs) It all comes out in the wash, though, right?

Joe Rogan 1:18 It- well, if you're talented, yeah.

Tyler Fischer 1:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:21 And he- and he's definitely talented. He's just a wild boy.

Tyler Fischer 1:24 I watch the crowd when he's on, 'cause I like to see the crowd just slowly kinda-

Joe Rogan 1:28 Go, "What the fuck?" Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 1:29 He's working through stuff. He gets messy. I like that.

Joe Rogan 1:31 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 1:32 They put us, they put me and him on, at the, at the late, late shows now.

Joe Rogan 1:36 In the Cellar?

Tyler Fischer 1:36 I think. Uh, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:37 Yeah. What is, uh, what is New York scene like these days?

Tyler Fischer 1:42 (smacks lips) Well, I'm here now.

Joe Rogan 1:43 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 1:44 We'll say that. With an American flag on. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:49 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 1:49 It's what it does to you, man. Dude, I wasn't-

Joe Rogan 1:51 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 1:52 Dude, I, before I moved here, I was a 60-year-old Jamaican woman. Look what Texas does to you.

Joe Rogan 1:56 It gets you in its bones. It's just a fun thing to be. It's fun to be a Texan.

Tyler Fischer 2:00 Someone's the other day on the street said, goes, "You look like Kid Rock fucked Zach Galifianakis." I was like, "That, yeah, that fun-

Joe Rogan 2:06 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 2:06 ... that works."

Joe Rogan 2:07 Yeah, that tracks. (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 2:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:11 How long you been out here now?

Tyler Fischer 2:13 Oh, like two weeks.

Joe Rogan 2:14 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 2:14 It's like a dream. This has been a weird dr- including this. It's all a weird dream.

Joe Rogan 2:19 How long you been doing standup now?

Tyler Fischer 2:21 I mean, I got on stage when I was 17 or 18 in high school, started doing improv and standup on stage. That's almost 20 years.

Joe Rogan 2:27 Oh, wow.

Tyler Fischer 2:28 And then I went to college.

Joe Rogan 2:29 High school?

Tyler Fischer 2:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was f- so I was failing out of high school. I needed like a B to pass and I was friends with the acting teacher. We would drink together.

Joe Rogan 2:41 What? In high school?

Tyler Fischer 2:41 I- public school, brother, public school.

Joe Rogan 2:43 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 2:43 Yeah. We would drink together and smoke and I thought, "If I take his class, he's gotta give me an A or I can get him sent to jail probably for all this bad behavior."

Joe Rogan 2:52 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 2:52 And, and I, I, so I took this acting class, and, uh, and I got on stage. And he pulls me aside, like day one. He goes, "This is what you need to do with your life."

Joe Rogan 3:02 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 3:02 And I go, "Okay, okay." Stop drinking, stop smoking. I was like in a gang.

Joe Rogan 3:07 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 3:08 I was growing weed. Yeah, I was a nightmare kid.

Joe Rogan 3:11 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 3:11 People think I'm just this nice little guy. I was a fucking monster, and getting on stage, and I got all that energy out. And, uh, it's what I've been doing every day since.

Joe Rogan 3:20 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 3:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:22 That's cool that someone recognized that, 'cause most of the time they don't.

Tyler Fischer 3:25 It takes one person.

Joe Rogan 3:27 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 3:27 It's insane.

Joe Rogan 3:28 It takes one person, and, you know, that one person literally can change your life, 'cause you're in this p- part of your life where you're not- you don't know what the fuck you're gonna do.

Tyler Fischer 3:37 No.

Joe Rogan 3:38 And then someone gives you a direction and they say, "Hey, you're really good at this. This is your thing."

Tyler Fischer 3:43 That's it.

Joe Rogan 3:44 You're like, "Oh my God, I found my thing."

Tyler Fischer 3:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:46 That day you go home, you're like, (gasps) "I found my thing."

Tyler Fischer 3:49 Yeah, he had us, uh, uh, first class we had to dance on stage.

Joe Rogan 3:53 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 3:53 He, 'cause he was like-

Joe Rogan 3:54 This guy was wild.

Tyler Fischer 3:54 ... he goes, "You're gonna fuck..." Oh, he was wild, dude. He was a playwright. He'd, he'd take the Metro-North in from Connecticut, New Haven, to, uh, put on little plays. And I just thought, I just thought it was the sexiest thing. It was like this guy was like living in the 1920s or something.

Joe Rogan 4:08 Right, like a real artist.

Tyler Fischer 4:09 Yeah, yeah. And he goes-

Joe Rogan 4:11 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 4:11 ... he goes, "We're gonna humiliate ourselves day one." He goes, "It's gonna be so bad, so everything you do after this is gonna be a breeze." And I, and I've, I've still used that to this day with standup. You, you gotta get messy. You gotta... So he said, "We're gonna go do the silliest dances." And I, I went home, I was practicing in the-

Joe Rogan 4:28 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 4:28 ... in the bathroom just sweating, turn around. I've never performed.

Joe Rogan 4:33 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 4:33 And I'd get on stage and he'd be like, "Sillier, weirder, weirder," until you just had a mental breakdown. And then after that, doing a little Shakespeare was fine.

Joe Rogan 4:43 Oh, that's an interesting strategy.

Tyler Fischer 4:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:45 That makes sense.

Tyler Fischer 4:45 You need someone to break you down and go, "You're allowed to fuck up. You're allowed to get messy."

Joe Rogan 4:49 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 4:50 And that's, that's why I got a place here, 'cause I went to your club and I saw, um, Brian Holtzman. And I go, "Wait a minute, you're allowed to do this?"

Joe Rogan 4:58 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 4:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:59 There's a place where you-

Tyler Fischer 5:01 Where you-

Joe Rogan 5:01 ... where you're allowed to say whatever you want? And it's just- Well, Brian Holtzman was like a hero of comedians in Los Angeles, but he didn't get good spots, unfortunately. They would put him on really late at the end of the show, and it was a wild thing to watch. You know, you're watching like 20, 30 people in the audience to this guy saying the, the most hilarious but yet horrific things.

Tyler Fischer 5:23 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:24 And he just never got the respect that he deserves. I've known Brian for, I guess, around 30 years now. When we first started at the store, we were like young hotshots. He was like this young, dark-haired, slicked-back, like really-

Tyler Fischer 5:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:43 ... interesting guy. Like really, like same style that he has now, he had back then.

Tyler Fischer 5:48 I can't imagine him with any more energy than he has now, though.

Joe Rogan 5:52 It was the same.

Tyler Fischer 5:52 As a young guy.

Joe Rogan 5:53 Oh, his energy has not waned at all, which is why he's so good, you know. Like some, some people slow down and it sucks. It sucks to see.

Tyler Fischer 6:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:03 You know? 'Cause they slow down, you're like...... you don't want to say anything to them. You know, like, "Hey man, you gotta pick it up."

Tyler Fischer 6:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:09 "Whatever the fuck you used to be, you gotta bring that back, 'cause it's like-"

Tyler Fischer 6:11 Turn it up a little bit.

Joe Rogan 6:12 "Yeah, you're a little too la- casual up there. I don't wanna say lazy, but there's-"

Tyler Fischer 6:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:17 "... you know, there's like, you're too tired."

Tyler Fischer 6:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:19 "You gotta fire the fuck up." Holtzmann never lost that, that kind of, that (yells) "Fuck it!" You know, that fucking-

Tyler Fischer 6:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:26 ... when he gets crazy. But he didn't have a show, like a real showcase. He didn't have, like, a real se- you know, like a real awesome spot where he could perform in front of crowds that weren't tired and hadn't seen three hours of comedy. But, so now, we've got him headlining.

Tyler Fischer 6:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:44 You know, and he, and people come to see him. They know-

Tyler Fischer 6:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:46 ... who he is. They get excited.

Tyler Fischer 6:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:47 And people have seen him m- multiple times.

Tyler Fischer 6:49 He's got a cult following here. It's great.

Joe Rogan 6:51 He definitely does, yeah.

Tyler Fischer 6:52 So that was it. I saw him once, and I, then I was like, "Oh yeah." I was, I went to, like, the open mic or whatever, you know?

Joe Rogan 6:57 Mm-hmm.

Tyler Fischer 6:57 I was in town doing the Vulcan, I think. And then I go, "Oh, I'm gonna try to get an audition." Adam wasn't here. Flew back, got the audition, then did a couple spots, then did a guest spot on Holtzmann's show, and then I was in the car in New York. I pull over. I'm just looking at apartments in Texas. I just called the guy. I go, "Hey, can I move there?"

Joe Rogan 7:16 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 7:17 I made him an offer. I made him an offer that was, like, insane. I'm renting. He literally goes, "Are you fucking with me, dude?" And, uh, the next day he goes, "They took your offer." And I was, and that was it.

Joe Rogan 7:28 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 7:29 Yeah. And it was like a, I know Ron White calls it comedy camp. It feels like that. When you're, when I'm landing here, it feels like Camp David or something.

Joe Rogan 7:36 Yeah. Ari said it yesterday. He said, "You made a festival here every week." It's like a festival.

Tyler Fischer 7:41 It's a festival.

Joe Rogan 7:41 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 7:42 I is wasn't sure if I'd made the right move, and then I'm on the plane, and it's Roseanne Barr, the next row back, Sebastian Maniscalco, and I'm right behind him.

Joe Rogan 7:53 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 7:53 And I was losing my fucking mind.

Joe Rogan 7:58 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 7:58 I was like, I go, "This is it."

Joe Rogan 8:00 Yeah. Well, whenever you don't know if you should do something, and you're like, you wanna do something, but then you have that little, (inhales deeply) "Oh, I don't know. Is this right?" You gotta always go for it.

Tyler Fischer 8:11 You gotta do it.

Joe Rogan 8:12 You gotta go for it.

Tyler Fischer 8:12 And you get better at that as you age, you know?

Joe Rogan 8:14 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 8:14 It's like you, you have to, you gotta fuck up a lot, and then you go, "I'll fuck up a little less this time."

Joe Rogan 8:19 Yeah, there, the fuck up thing, but it's also just, like, taking chances, going for things, is very important. Every time I've ever done it, it's been good, my whole life, every single time, whether it's first time going on stage, you know, even this, even, like, moving here.

Tyler Fischer 8:34 Sure.

Joe Rogan 8:34 You know, 'cause I have a family, and I had a business, you know, or like, uh, this podcast that requires-

Tyler Fischer 8:39 No, that's true.

Joe Rogan 8:39 ... guests and-

Tyler Fischer 8:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:40 ... I had all these people c- that already lived in LA. I had this built in, you know, g- group of people that I would have on, and it's just like, coming out here was, but I was like, "This is, this is the move." And then opening the club, I was like, "This is the move."

Tyler Fischer 8:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:54 "This, and it's gonna be fucking a- annoying. It's gonna be a lot of energy, a lot of stuff going on, a lot of things to pay attention to, but that's what really needs to happen."

Tyler Fischer 9:01 But you get to practice your hour-

Joe Rogan 9:03 Yeah, tha-

Tyler Fischer 9:03 ... a couple times a week, and the t- the road comes to you.

Joe Rogan 9:06 That's great. That definitely helps a lot. It tell- it just like keeps you so much healthier. It's crazy how much better you feel when you don't travel every week.

Tyler Fischer 9:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:13 It's nuts. Like, that-

Tyler Fischer 9:15 I just started touring l- this year.

Joe Rogan 9:17 It wears you.

Tyler Fischer 9:18 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 9:19 (laughs) Yeah, it gets, it's like getting drunk.

Tyler Fischer 9:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:21 It's like getting drunk, and then you have a show that night, and then you have another show, and then you fly home, and you get drunk flying home because, you know, it feels like when you land, like you're hungover.

Tyler Fischer 9:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:33 You're just like, "Oh, why am I so worn the fuck out?"

Tyler Fischer 9:36 And with the heat here, man.

Joe Rogan 9:37 Yeah, you get used to that.

Tyler Fischer 9:39 I'm kinda w- I, I understand Biden a little more. I've been walking around just like, "Uh, where, where am I? What is going on here?" Shitting my pants. (smacks lips) Ha.

Joe Rogan 9:48 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 9:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:48 You silly boy. Did you s- uh, I was telling you before this, this mayoral race in San Francisco. This might be the end. This m- this might be, like, San Francisco is a failed city. I mean, it really is. But this, there's no better indication of how failed it is than listening to this debate, listening to these people argue about what's important in San Francisco. So this was on the Jesse Watter show. You gotta (laughs) you gotta listen to this 'cause-

Narrator 10:17 Well, how many drag queens do you know?

Joe Rogan 10:20 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 10:20 (laughs)

Narrator 10:20 You were at the debate last week and couldn't name, uh, any drag queens on your own. I was wondering if you could-

Joe Rogan 10:30 (laughs)

Narrator 10:30 This is an opportunity to redeem yourself, uh, and if you could name three LGBTQ advisors for your campaign and three drag queens, uh, in San Francisco. The San Franci-

Joe Rogan 10:44 Just imagine.

Tyler Fischer 10:46 Shut the fuck up.

Joe Rogan 10:47 And that was the thing she was gonna sit down on. This is the actual current mayor of San Francisco, London Breed.

Tyler Fischer 10:55 London Breed.

Joe Rogan 10:55 That's her, right?

Narrator 10:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:56 Yeah, and she's like, "Can you name three drag queens?" Can you na- name three mentally ill men who a- dress up, like the most tardish, caricaturous-

Tyler Fischer 11:08 Like famous or just like Pixie that does the, you know, the kids-

Joe Rogan 11:12 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 11:12 ... story hour down at the library?

Joe Rogan 11:13 I know Lexus.

Tyler Fischer 11:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:14 Lexus, yeah. Lexus, down at the club, she does the burlesque show. What the fuck are you talking about?

Tyler Fischer 11:20 Yeah. No, sit back and enjoy. This is, sit back and enjoy the show. When woke, wokeism just takes on a f- uh-

Joe Rogan 11:27 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 11:27 ... this energy, and it, and it gets crazier and crazier. I mean, look at the, the sexuality acronym. It used to be gay and lesbian, GL.

Joe Rogan 11:36 Right.

Tyler Fischer 11:36 It is, watching politicians have to recite that, oh I, it's so am- it's like-

Joe Rogan 11:40 Trudeau's the best at it.

Tyler Fischer 11:41 ... they have a gun to their head.

Joe Rogan 11:42 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 11:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:42 Trudeau has 'em all down. But the f- my favorite is 2AI+.

Tyler Fischer 11:49 I+2S.

Joe Rogan 11:50 + is like everybody's in this gang that's not a white male. (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 11:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:55 Like it, like it speaks to everything.

Tyler Fischer 11:56 Yeah. You mean the American flag? That would be-

Joe Rogan 11:58 It's-

Tyler Fischer 11:58 ... a great flag to represent everybody.

Joe Rogan 11:59 Biracial people of color. Like there's so many different things, indigenous-... there's two spirit-

Tyler Fischer 12:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:07 ... two spirits in there-

Tyler Fischer 12:08 Two spirit.

Joe Rogan 12:08 ... which is my favorite.

Tyler Fischer 12:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:09 I'm a two spirit.

Tyler Fischer 12:10 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:11 Like, what the fuck are you?

Tyler Fischer 12:12 Why not three?

Joe Rogan 12:12 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 12:13 Why not four? Why not 45?

Joe Rogan 12:15 You're limiting yourself. And then A, which is a hilarious too, 'cause how do they have any say? They're asexual.

Tyler Fischer 12:22 Asexual.

Joe Rogan 12:22 Like, how are they in there with the perverts? How are they in there with the freaks? How are they in there with the transgender people?

Tyler Fischer 12:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:29 How are they in there with fucking guys wearing leather thongs and G-strings walking down the street with pride flags?

Tyler Fischer 12:35 They're like, "We don't want any part of this."

Joe Rogan 12:37 How does the A's... How are the A's in that? They just don't wanna fuck.

Tyler Fischer 12:40 My friend w- uh, came out as bisexual, this guy in New York, and, uh, he goes, "Well, I've been so oppressed." I'm like, "Am I supposed to feel bad that you get to fuck everybody?"

Joe Rogan 12:49 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 12:49 Really just like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.

Joe Rogan 12:52 He's been oppressed how so?

Tyler Fischer 12:53 I don't know. I- I- I don't know. I mean-

Joe Rogan 12:56 Well, isn't that fun?

Tyler Fischer 12:56 How are you opre-

Joe Rogan 12:57 It's a fun thing to say.

Tyler Fischer 12:58 It's a fun thing to say.

Joe Rogan 12:59 Yeah. It- it- it also gives you, like, a p- position where people have to go, "Oh my God."

Tyler Fischer 13:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:03 "I'm so sorry."

Tyler Fischer 13:04 Uh, uh-

Joe Rogan 13:05 You know?

Tyler Fischer 13:05 What?

Joe Rogan 13:05 What did I do?

Tyler Fischer 13:06 George Bush was, like, talking about pride the other day, and, uh, I- I was like, if he was- if he was pr-

Joe Rogan 13:12 W?

Tyler Fischer 13:12 Yeah. Y- yeah. He was on some interview, and- and I was like, if he was president today, having to, "You know, the L" (laughs) -

Joe Rogan 13:19 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 13:19 "... the LMAFOs, the HGTVs, the PB and Js. These are tasty folks, you know."

Joe Rogan 13:26 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 13:26 "My cousins are translucent. Now watch this drive."

Joe Rogan 13:29 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 13:29 But think about how much has changed-

Joe Rogan 13:31 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 13:31 ... since him.

Joe Rogan 13:32 Well, he is so reasonable-

Tyler Fischer 13:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:35 ... now in compare... I used to have a joke about, um, Bush getting elected, about the Iraq war, and that there's people in the back of the room, and their idea was the only way to find out how dumb people really are is to have a dumb president and see if everybody freaks out. 'Cause the only way they know that he's dumb is if they're smarter than him.

Tyler Fischer 13:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:56 So the only way to find out is put a dumb president and see how everybody responds. And then it was all about the Iraq war, and then all these things happened, like, what they believed, what they d-... And then at the end of it, I go, I think the people in the back of the room were going, "I think we can go dumber."

Tyler Fischer 14:10 (laughs) Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:11 And they were right.

Tyler Fischer 14:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:12 They were so right.

Tyler Fischer 14:13 Well, people act like Trump and Biden are the first, like, winner. We were... We had an autistic cowboy running the country for eight years.

Joe Rogan 14:20 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 14:20 We wanted eight years of that.

Joe Rogan 14:22 Yeah. Yeah, but people didn't want it at the end, which is why Obama won.

Tyler Fischer 14:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:27 You know, which is the- what this country always does. We go- we swing hard one way, and then we swing the other way. And Duncan Trussell said this when they were smashing windows and looting during the George Floyd protests. Duncan said, "Dude, this is gonna be so bad 'cause we're gonna have a right-wing, authoritarian president next." And I- and I thought about it. I was like, "Goddamn, he's probably right," 'cause that's- that's really what happens. There's, like, an overcorrection-

Tyler Fischer 14:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:54 ... one way, and then over... Like, the- the San Francisco, London Breed mayor thing, this is an overcorrection to discrimination. So there is some discrimination of gay people. There's discrimination of all kinds of people.

Tyler Fischer 15:07 How now though? What- what's the-

Joe Rogan 15:09 Well, there's still- there's still... With gay people, for sure, there's still people that are homophobic, especially religious people.

Tyler Fischer 15:14 It's too complicated now, because it's like, well, there's that, and then there's, you know, gay guys who dress up as women who wanna read to kids, and then there's those who cut their dicks. It's too co-

Joe Rogan 15:23 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 15:24 I- my, uh, dad came out of the closet when I was seven, so I was raised in this stuff. He came out as racist, but he, uh-

Joe Rogan 15:31 Duh.

Tyler Fischer 15:31 No, he's gay. I got a gay dad. I do.

Joe Rogan 15:32 I have two da- two dad, mom, uh, remarried, and then my dad with a husband. And so it's funny. I try to talk about this. You're like, "Well, shut up, straight white guy. You- you- this isn't your lived experience." I'm like, "No, it is. It is." I- Do you say about... Do you say this on stage?

Tyler Fischer 15:47 I talk-

Joe Rogan 15:48 Do you talk about it on stage?

Tyler Fischer 15:48 I talk about it everywhere. Uh, yeah, people started booing me when I started talking about this in- in New York City a long time ago. It was the first time where I talked about my personal life, 'cause I have a crazy f- everyone has a crazy life.

Joe Rogan 15:58 What were they booing?

Tyler Fischer 15:59 Well, they're just like, "You can't talk... You can't talk about... You can't... That's their life. You can't talk about what it's like to be a gay person." And it's like, when I was seven, I was hiding it from my friends, so I was living like a closeted gay guy.

Joe Rogan 16:13 Oh.

Tyler Fischer 16:13 I w- I- I went to insane lengths to hide my dad having a boyfriend, 'cause back... This was 1993. That's when it was, you know. And- and prior.

Joe Rogan 16:24 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 16:24 That's when it was bad. But I- I- I- I imagine what guys like that think of what's going on now, to be like, "You're like a two spirit hetero-" You know, with norm-

Joe Rogan 16:34 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 16:34 Whatever the shit is.

Joe Rogan 16:35 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 16:35 And back then, it was bad. Um, but-

Joe Rogan 16:39 When I was in, uh, middle school, my friend Josh, his mom was gay, and he didn't tell us. And nobody- nobody talked about it, but I-

Tyler Fischer 16:48 Lesbian moms are a little cooler though.

Joe Rogan 16:50 Yeah. (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 16:50 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:50 She... I mean, she had the whole thing. Like, she was wearing the sleeveless vest with the big arms.

Tyler Fischer 16:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:55 She was a big lady, and she had a girlfriend with short hair that was always over the house. It was, like, the whole... Like, you'd go, "Who's that lady?" "Oh, that's my mom's friend."

Tyler Fischer 17:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:03 "Why is she always over... Does she live with you?"

Tyler Fischer 17:05 That's exactly what happened.

Joe Rogan 17:05 It was one of them things.

Tyler Fischer 17:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:07 Uh, but I lived in San Francisco, and so when I moved to Boston, I moved to Florida for a few years, then we moved to Boston. Like, I'd been around gay people from the time I was seven to 11.

Tyler Fischer 17:17 Sure.

Joe Rogan 17:17 Like, my neighbors were gay. My aunt used to go over and play bongos with them naked. They would smoke pot and play bongos, I remember. So it was like-

Tyler Fischer 17:25 That's way cooler.

Joe Rogan 17:26 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 17:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:27 I mean, she just loved the fact she could just be naked around guys and no one cared. But it was just this thing where, like, the whole neighborhood was gay. Everybody was gay.

Tyler Fischer 17:34 Everybody.

Joe Rogan 17:34 So gay was super normal to me. I didn't... H- h- sup- s- so my friend was, like, hiding the fact that his mom was gay, you know? And we never really pressed him on it, but me and my other friend were like, "Oh, his mom's gay, right?" Like, "Oh, yeah," obviously. But, you know, we were 13. Like, what are you gonna do?

Tyler Fischer 17:53 For men, I think it was associated with AIDS.

Joe Rogan 17:55 Ooh.

Tyler Fischer 17:56 So I remember I was in the car, and, uh, you know, we would, like, raise money for AIDS runs and all this stuff, and my friend's like, "That's the AIDS thing, right?"

Joe Rogan 18:05 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 18:06 And I would tell him... My dad's an attorney. I would tell him... 'Cause he'd go, "This is my partner."And I would tell my friends, and I'd g- they'd go, "Why is, why is your dad's partner sleeping up?" "Oh, that's his law partner." I go, "They're working on a case."

Joe Rogan 18:17 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 18:17 "They're gonna be up all night, fellas." You know? If you hear some banging and moaning, it's 'cause they're recreating the murder. They're in there.

Joe Rogan 18:23 Ugh, the...

Tyler Fischer 18:24 I would come up with this. It's probably why I'm a good writer-

Joe Rogan 18:25 Oh, God.

Tyler Fischer 18:26 ... because I, I, I... Back then, it was not accepted at all.

Joe Rogan 18:29 When did everybody figure it out?

Tyler Fischer 18:31 I, I never told anybody.

Joe Rogan 18:33 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 18:34 Yeah. I think I was in college the first time I told somebody, 'cause I was a theater major, so it was like-

Joe Rogan 18:39 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 18:39 ... I was safe.

Joe Rogan 18:40 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 18:41 I was the weird one being straight.

Joe Rogan 18:42 And it also gives you, like, social props.

Tyler Fischer 18:45 It does, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:46 You know, you get street, street cred. (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 18:47 Yeah, I'll take whatever I can get now. When you got resting January 6 face, man-

Joe Rogan 18:51 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 18:51 ... you need something.

Joe Rogan 18:52 Do you think you have January 6... Well, you do with that hat.

Tyler Fischer 18:54 Resting January 6 face.

Joe Rogan 18:55 Yeah, yeah.

Tyler Fischer 18:58 (laughs) Yeah. I, yeah, I, I don't know. I don't care. I, I, I used to... I was raised to hate Ameri- all that bullshit, I fucking love this country, man.

Joe Rogan 19:04 It's a great country.

Tyler Fischer 19:05 I love it.

Joe Rogan 19:05 There's no reason to hate America.

Tyler Fischer 19:07 No.

Joe Rogan 19:07 We should, uh, always hate bad behavior in all groups of people, left and right.

Tyler Fischer 19:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:14 Shit- shitty, evil people on both sides. That's what we're supposed to hate. We're not supposed to hate America.

Tyler Fischer 19:19 And the history, it's history. You gotta honor it. Even, like, the stuff growing up with my dad and st- I had a lot of resentment about that. But I thought, "You know what? That's my... That, that was my burden to bear." And I have friends who y- you know, who saw my d... You know, gay was bad back then. But they'd see my dad being a great dad and cooking us dinner, and, and so th- their introduction to a homosexual was this normal guy. My dad, he looks like you. He's like, looks like, kinda like Bruce Willis in fucking... Uh, he's just a normal dude. He's not effeminate. He doesn't do the, like, "Yes." Like-

Joe Rogan 19:53 Mm.

Tyler Fischer 19:54 You know? Just-

Joe Rogan 19:54 Which is interesting, right? That there's different groups of gay people. We assoc- associate gay with people who behave in a very specific, exaggerated way.

Tyler Fischer 20:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:07 But you know-

Tyler Fischer 20:07 Well, they're the loudest-

Joe Rogan 20:08 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 20:08 ... ones on the f- floats with their dick out and a four-year-old's face.

Joe Rogan 20:12 But that's what's weird. It's like it's not just g- gay pride, it's overtly sexual behavior pride, you know?

Tyler Fischer 20:20 Those things should have nothing to do with each other.

Joe Rogan 20:22 They, they're so different. Like, the gay... I know so many gay guys that are just like... You would never know unless they told you they were gay. They just seem like men.

Tyler Fischer 20:31 Do you think people are actually homophobic or do, they're just... They have an issue with it getting sort of convoluted into this sexual thing that our kids are seeing?

Joe Rogan 20:42 I think people who are homophobic just lack nuance. They, they don't understand that there's weird people in every group. Like, would you be heterophobic if you found out about people that are child molesters?

Tyler Fischer 20:56 Hm.

Joe Rogan 20:57 You know, like if there was men that wanted to date 14-year-old girls and have sex with 14-year-old girls. W- you, you wouldn't be heterophobic because of that. Just like you shouldn't be homophobic if there's gay men that want to groom young boys. It's not about the gay. It- it's about assholes. It's about shitty members of society, and it's about... A l- a lot of them are people who are victims themselves, and then they perpetuate it again later in life. It's v- it's almost like being bitten by a vampire. One of the things that happens with a lot of these, uh, molested guys-

Tyler Fischer 21:31 That's how you become gay, by the way.

Joe Rogan 21:33 Blah. Bitten by a vampire?

Tyler Fischer 21:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:36 But a lot of these, um, molested guys wind up doing it to other kids, which is fuckin' insanely evil. Like, their, their life got destroyed.

Tyler Fischer 21:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:44 And then they wind up destroying other peoples' lives.

Tyler Fischer 21:46 I think it's something like 30% become molesters.

Joe Rogan 21:49 Crazy.

Tyler Fischer 21:49 This, I, um... My priest, and I don't know the backstory on this, but he blew, he blew his brains out when I was eight years old.

Joe Rogan 21:55 Jesus, dude.

Tyler Fischer 21:56 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:57 Seven and eight was rough for you.

Tyler Fischer 21:58 Seven was dad coming out, and then, um-

Joe Rogan 22:01 The pri- priest. What did the priest do that he wanted to blow his brains out?

Tyler Fischer 22:04 I don't know, but I always-

Joe Rogan 22:05 Catholic?

Tyler Fischer 22:06 I always think about it 'cause I'm like, "Were my blowjobs that bad?"

Joe Rogan 22:10 Bah. (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 22:10 You know what I mean? Were they that bad?

Joe Rogan 22:12 (laughs) Was it Catholic? You still crying-

Tyler Fischer 22:13 I don't know what he did.

Joe Rogan 22:14 ... after the blowjobs?

Tyler Fischer 22:15 He didn't touch me 'cause I, I wasn't a part of it.

Joe Rogan 22:17 Catholic?

Tyler Fischer 22:18 Methodist.

Joe Rogan 22:19 Methodist?

Tyler Fischer 22:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:19 Interesting. Are they allowed to get married?

Tyler Fischer 22:22 Yeah, I think so.

Joe Rogan 22:22 Huh. The Catholic ones.

Tyler Fischer 22:25 They're not allowed to blow their brains out. Uh, he did it at the altar.

Joe Rogan 22:27 Oh my God.

Tyler Fischer 22:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:28 In front of everybody?

Tyler Fischer 22:29 Nath- no, off day. Thank God.

Joe Rogan 22:31 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 22:31 But I remember going back in, like, the next day, and we just had a new guy, and he had a mustache. He looked like Ned Flanders, and I'm like, "No. I can't, I can't do this any-" Like...

Joe Rogan 22:40 Did they tell everybody what happened?

Tyler Fischer 22:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:43 Did he leave a note?

Tyler Fischer 22:46 Uh, give me prob- maybe. I don't know.

Joe Rogan 22:48 Does anybody know, like, what was wrong?

Tyler Fischer 22:51 No, I googled it. It's been wiped. I can't even find the story.

Joe Rogan 22:53 Oh, boy.

Tyler Fischer 22:54 I know.

Joe Rogan 22:55 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 22:55 They're good at wiping that.

Joe Rogan 22:56 Well, there's a fucking... There's a horrible thing that you people connect priests with child molesters 'cause, you know-

Tyler Fischer 23:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:04 Like, just like we're talking about other things, there's a group of them.

Tyler Fischer 23:08 Well, I wonder if by occupation that they're... If it's the most. I can't say for sure, but...

Joe Rogan 23:13 It's certainly associated the most. Like, it's not like NASCAR drivers. Imagine if that many NASCAR drivers were molesting kids. They'd shut NASCAR down in a fucking heartbeat.

Tyler Fischer 23:22 Sure, they'd at least make them go slower.

Joe Rogan 23:23 But meanwhile, the Catholic Church gets tax-exempt status.

Tyler Fischer 23:26 Right.

Joe Rogan 23:27 You know? They- they're literally guilty of moving people who are molesters to another place where they can molest new people instead of turning them in. That's what, uh, Pope Benedict got in trouble for. It's one of the reasons why he stepped down.

Tyler Fischer 23:40 Really?

Joe Rogan 23:41 Yeah. He was responsible for moving this one guy that went on to molest 100 deaf kids. Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 23:49 Phew.

Joe Rogan 23:49 Yeah. They, they would move these-

Tyler Fischer 23:51 I mean-

Joe Rogan 23:51 ... people to places where they could get away with it instead of turn them in. And I don't know if they gave them counseling. I mean, what the fuck? The thing about that particular evil, the evil of child molesters, is you don't s- it doesn't seem to be able to be fixed. Like, no one... You know, if you were a guy who was like a, like a-... Wolf of Wall Street guy.

Tyler Fischer 24:14 Mm.

Joe Rogan 24:14 He did a lot of crazy shit with the stock market, but then he realized like, "I fucked up. You know, I should've never done that. I was doing drugs. I fucked up." People, like, kind of accept that you're not a thief anymore.

Tyler Fischer 24:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:26 You can go do talk shows. You know, you could write a book. And people go, "Wow, that guy, they made a movie out of him." You know, Leonardo DiCaprio.

Tyler Fischer 24:33 Sure.

Joe Rogan 24:33 Leonardo DiCaprio played him in a fucking movie, and now he's out there.

Tyler Fischer 24:37 He's back.

Joe Rogan 24:38 But we don't think that way about child molesters. It's the one... Like, if you murdered somebody, like, "I was young, I was stupid. I hated that person. I didn't think. I murdered them." You do 25 years in jail. You come out. Maybe we'll think, like, "That guy's reformed." There's no feeling like that, ever, with child molesters.

Tyler Fischer 24:56 You go out- you go out and make Midnight at Paris after that.

Joe Rogan 25:00 Yes. (laughs) Well, he di- he never went to jail.

Tyler Fischer 25:03 No, no, I don't- I don't know if he did, you know...

Joe Rogan 25:04 Well, he did something.

Tyler Fischer 25:05 I- I went out with a girl who to- she goes, "I feel like I'm with- hanging out with Woody Allen when I'm hanging out with you." And I was like, "I don't know if that was a-"

Joe Rogan 25:13 Like what year Woody Allen?

Tyler Fischer 25:14 Yeah, yeah. I was like-

Joe Rogan 25:14 You ever do? Annie Hall?

Tyler Fischer 25:15 I was like, "You give me an existential crisis, you know. You're not even Asian. You know, I'm trying something different."

Joe Rogan 25:20 Have you ever listened to his old standup?

Tyler Fischer 25:22 Yeah, I like it.

Joe Rogan 25:23 It's so pervy.

Tyler Fischer 25:24 I- uh, yeah, he's very pervy. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:25 But it's- it's hilarious how openly pervy he is.

Tyler Fischer 25:29 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:29 And then you have to think of the time in which he was doing the standup. This is the 1960s.

Tyler Fischer 25:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:34 So he's doing this, like, weird sexual stand-

Tyler Fischer 25:37 Yeah, I was fucking a moose, you know. The moose had me mounted on the wall, and it was, you know...

Joe Rogan 25:41 Well, he's talking about girls.

Tyler Fischer 25:43 Y- yeah, yeah. Girls.

Joe Rogan 25:43 The way he talks about girls. I loved girls.

Tyler Fischer 25:46 His voice is so... To be a m- you know, he really, this is- this is really what his voice is, you know. And t- you're a knockout, Joe. You really are. And-

Joe Rogan 25:55 He's an odd dude.

Tyler Fischer 25:56 Yeah, that's just-

Joe Rogan 25:57 What is...

Tyler Fischer 25:57 When you're funny, though-

Joe Rogan 25:58 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 25:59 You can be... That's- that's your currency. He's an ugly, weird-looking guy, but if you're funny, you- that's- that's what you do.

Joe Rogan 26:06 Yeah, up until the whole child molesting a- accusations.

Tyler Fischer 26:11 Yeah, she was a bit of a batshit crazy lady, to- I mean-

Joe Rogan 26:14 Mia Farrow?

Tyler Fischer 26:14 They- both of them deserve whatever happened. They both deserve it. She was adopting kids and returning them.

Joe Rogan 26:20 What?

Tyler Fischer 26:21 Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:21 She returned them?

Tyler Fischer 26:22 Yo, all the time, yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:23 Why?

Tyler Fischer 26:24 Yeah, she was just bad, unlike this one. You know, she would get, like, mangled kids, and- and all these, uh... You know, they'd have all these disabilities and stuff, and then she would return them.

Joe Rogan 26:34 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 26:34 Yeah, I mean, all- all the kids have come out with different stories, but, uh, you know.

Joe Rogan 26:39 Well, if you're fostering kids-

Tyler Fischer 26:40 They deserve each other.

Joe Rogan 26:41 If you're fostering kids and taking care of kids- care of kids, you're- you're taking care of kids that have already experienced, like, some crazy shit. You know, so these kids are probably already fucked up. Probably already...

Tyler Fischer 26:51 Yeah, a lot of- a lot of them didn't speak English. They'd bring them in from, uh, different countries, China and stuff.

Joe Rogan 26:56 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 26:56 They didn't speak English. They'd be, like, disabled. And then Woody Allen's like, "You wanna- you wanna go for a walk?" You know... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:06 Oof.

Tyler Fischer 27:06 But his movies are so good.

Joe Rogan 27:08 They're pretty good. They're not that good.

Tyler Fischer 27:10 They're not that good, but-

Joe Rogan 27:12 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 27:12 But what I love about it, it's a different... Nobody could do that now, and go, "I can go- go make a movie a year." You're going, "I'm gonna see the Rogan movie. I'm gonna see the, uh-"

Joe Rogan 27:20 Right.

Tyler Fischer 27:20 "I'm seeing the Shane Gillis movie."

Joe Rogan 27:21 Did he really make one a year?

Tyler Fischer 27:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:23 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 27:24 He made them real cheap, didn't pay himself. And, uh, that, we'll never have that again. I even remember when I was in my teens going, "I'm seeing the Woody Allen movie."

Joe Rogan 27:32 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 27:32 You didn't even care what it was. It's like a new comedian special coming out. You'd just go.

Joe Rogan 27:36 Like, they were always good, right? Like, "How many does he have? Oh my God, look how many movies he has, man."

Tyler Fischer 27:40 Yeah, absolutely.

Narrator 27:41 He's still making them.

Joe Rogan 27:42 He's still making them?

Tyler Fischer 27:43 That one's good. Raining in New York is good.

Narrator 27:45 2023?

Joe Rogan 27:46 Where- well, where does he live now?

Tyler Fischer 27:47 He lives in Manhattan.

Joe Rogan 27:49 Still?

Tyler Fischer 27:49 Yeah, same place. Upper East Side.

Joe Rogan 27:52 Wow. I wonder if he gets fucked with. Like, can he just walk around?

Tyler Fischer 27:56 Probably. He's dan- he's old, man.

Joe Rogan 27:59 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 27:59 He is old. I don't think people would recognize him.

Joe Rogan 28:01 Really? Oh, come on. Let me see a photo of Woody Allen.

Tyler Fischer 28:03 Not- not the younger- not the younger generation.

Joe Rogan 28:06 I think they know who he is.

Tyler Fischer 28:07 He never lived with Mia Farrow, I found out. So they never lived-

Joe Rogan 28:10 Oh, really?

Tyler Fischer 28:10 They never even slept over at each other's house. They were never married.

Joe Rogan 28:14 Oh, no kidding.

Tyler Fischer 28:15 Yeah. Doesn't make it less weird that he started fucking her daughter, but...

Joe Rogan 28:19 No, it just not.

Tyler Fischer 28:20 You know. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:21 Especially since he knew her since she was, like, two.

Tyler Fischer 28:25 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:25 Yeah, not good.

Tyler Fischer 28:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:28 Yeah, that's what he looks like now.

Tyler Fischer 28:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:30 Yeah, they'd recognize him in a heartbeat, dude.

Tyler Fischer 28:32 Well, she's older now.

Joe Rogan 28:34 Yeah.

Narrator 28:34 He's 88.

Joe Rogan 28:35 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 28:36 Goddamn. He's done. The pandemic, I think, finished him.

Joe Rogan 28:39 He's 88.

Tyler Fischer 28:40 Finished him.

Joe Rogan 28:42 Well, I mean, just life is finishing him. He's 88 years old, man. I mean, that's just... And he does- he still does a movie a year. What did he get arrested for there?

Tyler Fischer 28:51 That's from a movie, Take the Money and Run, I think.

Joe Rogan 28:53 Oh. (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 28:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:56 He had some great fucking movies, man.

Tyler Fischer 28:57 He did. But he's a- he's a real, like, germaphobe, neurotic guy. The pandemic ruined anybody that had that type of personality.

Joe Rogan 29:06 Oh, I know a few people.

Tyler Fischer 29:07 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 29:09 Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 29:09 Done.

Joe Rogan 29:10 Yeah, they're not coming back.

Tyler Fischer 29:11 Not co- that's-

Joe Rogan 29:12 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 29:12 That is tr- a tragedy. This is what-

Joe Rogan 29:14 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 29:14 That's the tragedy of our time, man.

Joe Rogan 29:16 Yeah, there were people that were barely hanging on.

Tyler Fischer 29:18 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:19 They were riddled with anxiety.

Tyler Fischer 29:21 Yeah, I was one of them. But- but it was more because I- because I didn't get the vaccine and couldn't take part in society. That was a fun little experiment we did, that we're just gonna pretend like never happened.

Joe Rogan 29:31 Yeah, that was an interesting thing, right?

Tyler Fischer 29:32 Interesting little thing, yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:34 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 29:34 We had segregation in this country-

Joe Rogan 29:37 Uh-huh.

Tyler Fischer 29:37 ... based on medicine, and then we're back to pretending like it never fucking happened.

Joe Rogan 29:41 Well- well, at least now they're s- they're having hearings on it. From what I've watched, it's-

Tyler Fischer 29:45 Yeah, nine years later. Fauci was on TV the other day going, "You know, it could've come from the- the lab. It may have been a leak. I wanna stay open-minded." And on CNN they're like-

Joe Rogan 29:54 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 29:54 ... "Yeah, okay." Like, what?

Joe Rogan 29:56 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 29:57 Did you see all that leaked stuff coming out of his audio?

Joe Rogan 30:00 Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 30:00 "You gotta make a human- make pressure, people. You gotta..."

Joe Rogan 30:03 Yeah. They'll drop-

Tyler Fischer 30:04 God.

Joe Rogan 30:04 ... their ideological bullshit when they can't work.

Tyler Fischer 30:07 True.

Joe Rogan 30:07 It's been shown when you make their lives difficult, they will drop their ideological bullshit.

Tyler Fischer 30:12 Just give them another booster. Boost them up.

Joe Rogan 30:14 Imagine saying that about people's jobs, that you're gonna force them into making a decision with their own body, and not only that but mandate it, and not only that, as a doctor, know that some people are allergic to some of the...... uh, components, some of the, some of the-

Tyler Fischer 30:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:30 ... actual ingredients in these vaccines.

Tyler Fischer 30:31 Sure.

Joe Rogan 30:32 Aaron Rodgers is one of them.

Tyler Fischer 30:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:33 He's allergic to one of the chemicals that's in it.

Tyler Fischer 30:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:36 Can't take it.

Tyler Fischer 30:37 And some people have immune systems that work pretty well.

Joe Rogan 30:40 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 30:40 And maybe you didn't, you don't need to start jabbing them with experimental stuff. I mean-

Joe Rogan 30:45 Yeah. It's a wild thing that happened, and so many people are still defending it because they defended it previously. They're not defending it from a p- position of like, objectivity, like, "Here we are, 2024. Let's look at the data." No. They're defending it from this weird place of, "I defended it three years ago, and I've shamed people-"

Tyler Fischer 31:05 I'm gonna, I planted my flag.

Joe Rogan 31:05 "... three years ago, and we were right."

Tyler Fischer 31:07 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:07 "We were right. We were right. You were wrong. We were right." It saved millions. They always say that.

Tyler Fischer 31:11 Saved millions.

Joe Rogan 31:11 It saved millions. The, which is, by the way, there's no way to tell if that's true.

Tyler Fischer 31:15 There's no way to tell.

Joe Rogan 31:16 'Cause the number of people that actually die from COVID is so grossly exaggerated. Most people think it's a very high number of people that died from COVID. It's less than 1%. It's like p- was it .3? Is it like one-third of 1%? Is that what it is? Something like that. And-

Tyler Fischer 31:34 I don't know one per- And, I mean, I know people who do.

Joe Rogan 31:36 I know a couple people.

Tyler Fischer 31:36 And some people who, you know.

Joe Rogan 31:38 I know a couple people who died from it.

Tyler Fischer 31:39 But, but it's not what... I remember, I, and I, I was watching CNN. I was kinda like a brainwashed woke person until the pandemic.

Joe Rogan 31:47 Really?

Tyler Fischer 31:47 Every day, I was on CNN watching, watching that death ticker that t-

Joe Rogan 31:50 Oh, yeah.

Tyler Fischer 31:50 Like the stock market. And then when I made my decision not to get the vaccine and I lost almost every friend, every job-

Joe Rogan 31:59 F- wha-

Tyler Fischer 31:59 ... and was called like, a far right Trump supporter, I go, "Okay. This is, we've never done this before."

Joe Rogan 32:06 Why, what was your decision? Why'd you decide not to take it?

Tyler Fischer 32:09 Well, f- I mean, I'm not getting something... First of all, it wouldn't have been made that f- Trump's really good at pushing things through regulations very fast. If we had any other president, there's no way. That's what, warp speed. You remember warp speed, Joe, right? Nobody can do that.

Joe Rogan 32:25 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 32:25 We call it warp speed. Edison couldn't do it with lightning speed, but I did warp speed. I made it, they said, "Sir, it'll take 15 years." I made it in two days. He's bragging-

Joe Rogan 32:34 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 32:34 ... about how quick he did it.

Joe Rogan 32:35 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 32:36 And I went, "I'm not gonna fucking get that." I'm young, I'm healthy, I had COVID. I had natural immunity. I was doing what everybody has done throughout history.

Joe Rogan 32:43 Right. You already had COVID.

Tyler Fischer 32:44 It was too-

Joe Rogan 32:45 Which is really important.

Tyler Fischer 32:45 Yeah. So, why risk that?

Joe Rogan 32:47 And what was the, um, what version of COVID did you have? The earliest one?

Tyler Fischer 32:50 I had the first, the first, the OG, the original.

Joe Rogan 32:54 And how bad was it for you?

Tyler Fischer 32:56 It was, uh, it was like, I get the flu every year. I'm tiny. I'm a sickly person.

Joe Rogan 33:01 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 33:01 You know? I'm allergic to fucking cigarettes. Can I, yeah, can I get one of those fucking things?

Joe Rogan 33:05 Yeah. Here. I got you.

Tyler Fischer 33:06 Yeah, dude. Why not?

Joe Rogan 33:07 One of these.

Tyler Fischer 33:07 I quit smoking when I was 12, but-

Joe Rogan 33:09 But you smoke a cigar?

Tyler Fischer 33:10 I started when I was 10.

Joe Rogan 33:11 Oh, okay.

Tyler Fischer 33:12 Yeah, 10 to 21. I smoked for 11 years.

Joe Rogan 33:15 Nice.

Tyler Fischer 33:15 So, let's start now.

Joe Rogan 33:16 Sorry. I would have invited you.

Tyler Fischer 33:18 No, it's fine. It's fine. I just-

Joe Rogan 33:19 God.

Tyler Fischer 33:20 Goddam.

Joe Rogan 33:20 How did I know that you had quit cigarettes?

Tyler Fischer 33:23 No. You wouldn't know that.

Joe Rogan 33:25 Somebody, I think somebody brought it up.

Tyler Fischer 33:27 Well, I put up a sign when I was filming the special that, uh, like a no smoking sign.

Joe Rogan 33:31 Pull that down.

Tyler Fischer 33:32 Oh, yeah. Okay.

Joe Rogan 33:34 A no smoking sign?

Tyler Fischer 33:34 It's like a Marx Brother when they're fucking... Well, I had a, I had a, wh- when I was fil- I filmed this special last week and I, we were live editing it.

Joe Rogan 33:41 Mm-hmm.

Tyler Fischer 33:41 So, I put up a no smoking sign in the green room 'cause I had all these, I had all this camera crew and stuff in there.

Joe Rogan 33:48 Mm-hmm.

Tyler Fischer 33:49 Wh- what do you hit, this thing?

Joe Rogan 33:50 The other side. The, the, the top that's flipped, the way I handed it to you. Turn it towards you. Turn it towards you. No, no, no. The other way. You see that? That's the top.

Tyler Fischer 33:58 Right there?

Joe Rogan 33:58 And then you pull that thing down.

Tyler Fischer 34:00 Okay.

Joe Rogan 34:00 That's it. There you go. But you got it backwards. You should do it the other way so they can see what you're doing.

Tyler Fischer 34:05 Oh, like this?

Joe Rogan 34:05 Yeah. There you go. (laughs) This is a ￂ​out of embarrassment.

Tyler Fischer 34:08 Oh, I was good at this when I was 12.

Joe Rogan 34:10 Were you?

Tyler Fischer 34:11 Oh, yeah. I used to steal cigars. I was in like, a skateboard gang, and I was so small-

Joe Rogan 34:15 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 34:15 ... they'd send me under the counter, and I would steal like, thousands of dollars of cigars.

Joe Rogan 34:20 Under counters?

Tyler Fischer 34:21 Yeah. I'd sneak under the counter of a drug store-

Joe Rogan 34:23 Oh, God.

Tyler Fischer 34:24 ... 'cause I was so small. And then I'd come out with, uh, and we would sell them on the street.

Joe Rogan 34:29 You, your gang sold stolen cigars?

Tyler Fischer 34:31 Stolen s- stolen cigars, and we grew weed in, uh, in my backyard. Yeah, yeah. It was a real g- it was a gang. I mean, somebody stole our weed once. We went and flipped their car over and burnt, and, and burnt it.

Joe Rogan 34:42 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 34:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:44 Jesus.

Tyler Fischer 34:45 Yeah, yeah. So, that's, you know, the privilege of growing up in Connecticut. It was a privileged-

Joe Rogan 34:49 What part of Connecticut?

Tyler Fischer 34:50 Uh, r- in New Haven.

Joe Rogan 34:51 Okay.

Tyler Fischer 34:51 People didn't know it.

Joe Rogan 34:52 I know New Haven.

Tyler Fischer 34:52 It's called gun blazing. Everyone's like, "Oh, you're so privileged." It was a, you know-

Joe Rogan 34:56 New Haven's a sketchy place.

Tyler Fischer 34:57 Sketchy, yeah. We heard gunshots every night.

Joe Rogan 35:00 Super sketchy.

Tyler Fischer 35:00 Every single night.

Joe Rogan 35:01 I used to do the Jokers Wild Comedy Club in New Haven.

Tyler Fischer 35:03 You did?

Joe Rogan 35:04 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 35:04 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:05 Is that still around?

Tyler Fischer 35:06 I don't know. It's where I st- I did my first open mic.

Joe Rogan 35:09 No shit. You did your first open mic there?

Tyler Fischer 35:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 35:11 Wow. Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 35:13 Actually, no. First one was, uh, was the, uh, cafeteria at college. Yeah. It was in a play. I was playing George Bush. The first acting role I ever did. Stuff Happens. Did you ever hear about that play?

Joe Rogan 35:25 No.

Tyler Fischer 35:26 Stuff Happens. It was in the West End in London. It was all actual quotes from George Bush and his administration.

Joe Rogan 35:34 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 35:34 The whole thing. And it's fucking amazing.

Joe Rogan 35:37 Really?

Tyler Fischer 35:38 Yeah. Yeah. It, the war on terror, which, weapons of mass destruction, all, the whole, the way they... And it was almost like the pandemic, the way they scared people. Weapons of mass destruction. We gotta take them out. We gotta do what we gotta do. And we went in there, and what came of that?

Joe Rogan 35:57 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 35:58 Biden pulling out and leaving billions of dollars of...

Joe Rogan 36:02 Shit behind? Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 36:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 36:03 If you just compared Biden to George Bush, George Bush looks like a fucking Rhodes Scholar.

Tyler Fischer 36:08 Yeah, Shakespeare.

Joe Rogan 36:09 That's what's crazy. We thought that he was an idiot. We thought, "God, I can't, this is such an embarrassment that that guy is the president."

Tyler Fischer 36:16 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:17 And, and now look at the two choices we have. Like, yo.

Tyler Fischer 36:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:21 Bush would be like, the, like the wise choice at this point.

Tyler Fischer 36:25 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:26 You know?

Tyler Fischer 36:26 Oh, yeah. Dude, you ever watch the, the clip when they're like, asking him ab- I think about bin Laden or something? He's like, "Okay, we're gonna find bin Laden, but first, watch this drive."

Joe Rogan 36:37 Watch this drive. Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 36:37 (laughs) I watched that every day.

Joe Rogan 36:39 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 36:40 It was a good drive.

Joe Rogan 36:41 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 36:42 And it was a way of keeping people calm and, like, he's so American.

Joe Rogan 36:45 Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 36:45 He just is. We're dumb. We're fucking stupid.

Joe Rogan 36:48 Yeah. He's a transport to Texas, you know? They're from Maine.

Tyler Fischer 36:51 He was born in New Haven. Do you know that?

Joe Rogan 36:53 Yeah. Was he really?

Tyler Fischer 36:53 And he denies it.

Joe Rogan 36:55 Uh, he denies it.

Tyler Fischer 36:55 The bridge that goes into New Haven is the George W. Bush Bridge, and he denies. He was born in Yale New Haven Hospital.

Joe Rogan 37:01 Wait a minute. Why would he lie about that?

Tyler Fischer 37:02 'Cause he wants to be Te- ... I'm from Texas, you know? Red, white, and blue, I believe that.

Joe Rogan 37:06 Yeah, but he, but he knows they're from Kennebunkport, Maine.

Tyler Fischer 37:09 Born in New Haven.

Joe Rogan 37:10 Really?

Tyler Fischer 37:11 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:11 Interesting.

Tyler Fischer 37:12 They're like, "Fuck you. We're naming the bridge after it."

Joe Rogan 37:14 He's an American politician-

Tyler Fischer 37:15 Hey, baby, New Haven.

Joe Rogan 37:16 Yeah, New Haven, Connecticut. So at one point in time he was hiding this? Is that what it is? Isn't that funny? He's younger than both fucking Trump and Biden.

Tyler Fischer 37:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:27 He's ... Jesus Christ. He hasn't been the president in like th- 20 fucking years. That's so crazy. He's younger than both of them.

Tyler Fischer 37:35 Do you know-

Joe Rogan 37:35 That's so nuts. Look at it-

Tyler Fischer 37:37 That-

Joe Rogan 37:37 That is so nuts.

Tyler Fischer 37:38 ... is crazy.

Joe Rogan 37:39 That's so nuts.

Tyler Fischer 37:40 I would vote for him for a third term.

Joe Rogan 37:42 100%.

Tyler Fischer 37:43 In a second.

Joe Rogan 37:43 Come on back, George.

Tyler Fischer 37:45 Yeah. We need a laugh, buddy.

Joe Rogan 37:47 And bring that Darth Vader fucking fake heart motherfucker with you.

Tyler Fischer 37:50 Yeah, Dick Cheney?

Joe Rogan 37:51 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 37:51 Oh, is he still alive?

Joe Rogan 37:52 That guy is ... Yeah, he's literally in the Bible. He had no pulse at one point in time. No pulse, because he had an artificial heart put in while they were waiting to put a replacement heart in-

Tyler Fischer 38:03 Oh, that's right.

Joe Rogan 38:04 ... they had an artificial pump put in. So this pump continually circulated blood. It didn't have a pulse, so he had no pulse. Tell me that's not in the Bible. Isn't that in the Bible?

Tyler Fischer 38:14 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 38:14 I haven't read the b- ... I haven't read the whole Bible.

Tyler Fischer 38:15 I don't know. Uh, maybe you heard my priest blew his brains out when I was eight. I've ... I kinda stopped reading.

Joe Rogan 38:20 But I mean, if you're gonna have like a d- a demon incarnate, like-

Tyler Fischer 38:24 God damn.

Joe Rogan 38:24 ... he'll probably have no pulse, you know?

Tyler Fischer 38:26 Jeez. I mean-

Joe Rogan 38:27 I would imagine.

Tyler Fischer 38:28 Uh, watching Biden like ... when he freezes up now-

Joe Rogan 38:32 Oh, yeah. It's crazy.

Tyler Fischer 38:33 ... I ... You think he's gone, man.

Joe Rogan 38:34 Well, he's gonna go, but it's a- also he's freezing up medicated to the tits. Like, whatever they're doing to keep him alive, I.V., vitamin transfusions, and fucking hormones and amphetamines, whatever they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. Nootropics? I don't know what they're doing.

Tyler Fischer 38:50 He could be the first president to be assassinated by time.

Joe Rogan 38:53 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 38:54 I mean, that just-

Joe Rogan 38:55 He's not gonna make it. I just can't believe they're running him. It doesn't even make sense. The more he flails about in these speeches, the more he fucks up. It more is li- ... almost like he feels like he's ... doesn't want to do it, so he's trying to get out of it.

Tyler Fischer 39:08 Are they saying this didn't happen?

Joe Rogan 39:10 "This did not happen." "White House denies claims Biden froze at fundraiser event."

Tyler Fischer 39:14 They're calling them cheap fakes now.

Joe Rogan 39:17 But wait a minute. There's a video-

Tyler Fischer 39:18 I know.

Joe Rogan 39:19 ... of the show where ... Look, I don't think that's a big deal. The thing's over, he gets led off the stage. Like, who cares? That's nothing. Some of the other stuff, like ... What was that one where he was, like, yelling at people? Like, completely ...

Tyler Fischer 39:34 (yelling)

Joe Rogan 39:34 Yeah. Just yelling with a big smile on his face.

Tyler Fischer 39:36 He always does that.

Joe Rogan 39:37 Yeah, but this was a wild one. That's just him walking off with Joe Biden ... with, uh, Obama. Like, who cares? That doesn't-

Tyler Fischer 39:44 I think it was the, like ... He gave him the little pinch on the arm like you do to your grandma. He goes, "Betsy."

Joe Rogan 39:48 No, he's looking at the crowd.

Tyler Fischer 39:50 "Let's go."

Joe Rogan 39:50 He's just looking out at the crowd, which is odd, too. He doesn't wave.

Tyler Fischer 39:53 He, he does look frozen though.

Joe Rogan 39:54 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 39:54 Uh, yeah, he's frozen.

Joe Rogan 39:55 Yeah, but whatever.

Tyler Fischer 39:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:57 That's the least of the things that have gone wrong.

Tyler Fischer 40:00 Sure.

Joe Rogan 40:00 The thing of i- ... Have you seen the video of him yelling, Jamie? There's this crazy video. He's like, "Aah!" Like, he's not saying it-

Tyler Fischer 40:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:08 Someone says something to him, and he yells something back, but it's literally no words. And then he has a big smile on his face.

Tyler Fischer 40:14 He yells, and then he does that whisper. He's like, "We're all ... We're b- ... We're for sure gonna stop s- s- s- sh- r- w- we wrote the bill there."

Joe Rogan 40:22 It's hard to believe it's real. It's har- ... It's almost like we're being punked by China. (laughs) You know, it's like-

Tyler Fischer 40:28 Oh, they ... Yeah, they've punked us recently.

Joe Rogan 40:30 They're definitely doing that. They're definitely doing that, but-

Tyler Fischer 40:32 COVID was a bit of a punk.

Joe Rogan 40:34 A little bit.

Tyler Fischer 40:35 A little, yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:36 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 40:36 Minor worldwide-

Joe Rogan 40:37 Uh-huh.

Tyler Fischer 40:37 ... punk.

Joe Rogan 40:39 That we funded.

Tyler Fischer 40:40 That we funded.

Joe Rogan 40:41 Yeah, our tax dollars.

Tyler Fischer 40:43 I ... How about reparations for everybody who got fired for not getting the COVID vaccine? I think everyone should get a fat check, $100,000.

Joe Rogan 40:52 That's not a bad idea.

Tyler Fischer 40:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:53 And that's not even enough. How many people lost their fucking jobs, lost their careers?

Tyler Fischer 40:56 No. Dude, people are ... It's destroyed people.

Joe Rogan 40:58 This, isn't it?

Tyler Fischer 40:59 Not it.

Joe Rogan 41:00 Let me hear this, though. Let me hear what this one is. (laughs)

Narrator 41:03 Donald Trump, when he was commander in chief, refused to visit a cemetery, a US cemetery outside of Paris for fallen American soldiers and referred to those heroes, and I quote, as "suckers" and "losers." He actually said that.

Tyler Fischer 41:20 Oh.

Narrator 41:20 He said that. How dare he say that? How dare he talk about my son and all of us just like that?

Joe Rogan 41:28 What?

Tyler Fischer 41:28 How dare you? Sweet old man, though.

Joe Rogan 41:32 Yeah. D- ... Is that how his son died? Why is he saying his son?

Tyler Fischer 41:36 His son ... The death of his son changes by the day. It's like-

Joe Rogan 41:41 Yeah, but what is he saying there? Is he saying his d- ... his son died as a military person?

Tyler Fischer 41:46 Yeah, I don't think he died in war. He's, he mixes it up.

Joe Rogan 41:50 Does it say how he died? He died from cancer? Uh, Biden had radiation and chemotherapy treatments. Cancer remained stable. May 20th, 2015, he was admitted to Walter Reed National Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland 'cause of recurrence of brain cancer. He died there 10 days later. Okay. What does, what does that have to do ... What ... Why is he saying, "How dare they talk about my son?"

Tyler Fischer 42:14 He l- ... He'll link everything to his son dying.

Joe Rogan 42:16 Oh, no, no, no. Exposure to military burn pits-

Tyler Fischer 42:20 Oh.

Joe Rogan 42:20 ... in Iraq. Okay, that makes sense.

Tyler Fischer 42:22 Okay.

Joe Rogan 42:23 Oh, so what did he do? According to his father, Beau was dia- ... uh, diagnosed with ... how ... say that word. Ankylos-

Tyler Fischer 42:36 (speaking gibberish)

Joe Rogan 42:36 Ank- ankle ... ankylosing spond-

Tyler Fischer 42:41 Delitis.

Joe Rogan 42:42 Delitis.... ankylosing spong- spondy-litis. After returning from service in Kosovo, he was later diagnosed with brain cancer his father believes is a possible, uh, possibly consequence of exposure to military burn pits. Well, those burn pits 100% fucked people up. That's so crazy that they did that too. They had soldiers over there and they had all this waste and they just burned it all, and then so the wind would just blow it right into the camp so these soldiers were just breathing in toxic chemical waste.

Tyler Fischer 43:15 Sh-

Joe Rogan 43:16 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 43:18 Yikes.

Joe Rogan 43:19 Yeah, what the fuck, man? And what was his son doing? What, his son was in Kosovo. Was his son serving?

Tyler Fischer 43:26 I think s- I think so.

Joe Rogan 43:28 Is that what happened?

Tyler Fischer 43:32 It's amaz- amazing how Trump alm- he, (blows air through closed lips) he looks li- he looks so young and energized compared to Biden now.

Joe Rogan 43:40 Yeah, but it's just compared to Biden.

Tyler Fischer 43:41 Just compared to it.

Joe Rogan 43:42 Yeah. He was in Kosovo after 19- 1998, 1999 Kosovo War, working on behalf of the OSCE to train judges and prosecutors for the low- local judicial system. 2004, became a partner in the law firm of Bittoferrato, Gentilotti, Biden, and Balick, where he worked for two years before being elected Attorney General of Delaware. He was nominated, Jo- when Joe Biden was nominated for Vice President, Beau introduced him. Many delegates wept at his speech, which recounted the auto accident that killed his mother and sister and the subsequent commitment his father made to his sons. So he was active duty, uh, deployed to Iraq, sent to Fort Bliss for pre-deployment training, this day after his father participated in the 2008 presidential campaign's only vice presidential debate. Father was on record saying, "I don't want him going, but I'll tell you what, I don't want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years." So... I can't see it all, Jimmy. It's cut off. Oh. So how we leave makes a big difference. Whoa. That didn't age well. So how we leave makes a big difference. Then you think about what they did in Afghanistan. Hey man, fuck that job.

Tyler Fischer 44:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:59 Fuck, fuck that job. You, you literally have to be a crazy person to want that job.

Tyler Fischer 45:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:04 Like, could you imagine wanting the stress of being either the vice president or the president?

Tyler Fischer 45:08 Like Brian Regan has a joke about being pres- every morning you wake up, someone's like, "Problems, sir. Lots and lots of problems."

Joe Rogan 45:15 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 45:16 Any of those jobs. What-

Joe Rogan 45:16 There's not one day where everything's like, fucking yeah, everything's cruising.

Tyler Fischer 45:19 Do you think they should have an age cap on the politicians?

Joe Rogan 45:22 Well-

Tyler Fischer 45:22 They got a minimum, right? 35 to run?

Joe Rogan 45:25 If you wanna be a fireman, you have to show that you're physically competent.

Tyler Fischer 45:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:29 You have to, you have to, uh, complete a physical fitness course.

Tyler Fischer 45:32 Sure.

Joe Rogan 45:33 You have to, you know, 'cause you might be able- have to do things. If you are a president, I think you should have to commit a mental fitness course. Like they should have to test you with puzzles. They should have to ask you-

Tyler Fischer 45:44 Puzzles.

Joe Rogan 45:44 Yeah, yeah.

Tyler Fischer 45:45 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:45 Like legitimately.

Tyler Fischer 45:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:46 Like it sounds stupid-

Tyler Fischer 45:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:47 ... but that's a good way to find out what, whether someone's brain works well.

Tyler Fischer 45:49 Sure.

Joe Rogan 45:50 Test people with, uh, puzzles and quizzes and ask them questions about history and they shouldn't be able to prepare for it. I think it should be something that you just, you just announce, "Today's the day. We're gonna pull him into this room and we're gonna, uh, j- film it all and ask him a bunch of questions-"

Tyler Fischer 46:08 Film it.

Joe Rogan 46:08 "... about all kinds of things. And then let's find out how that guy p- how his brain works."

Tyler Fischer 46:12 Well, I mean, I think Mitch McConnell had two strokes.

Joe Rogan 46:15 Wait for-

Tyler Fischer 46:15 In a very short amount of time.

Joe Rogan 46:17 He locks up, whatever that is.

Tyler Fischer 46:18 He does.

Joe Rogan 46:18 I don't think it's a stroke but it's a, he definitely locks up like Windows 95.

Tyler Fischer 46:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:24 Yeah, it's not good. It's not good and he's not stepping down. The, uh, these people are so old. They're so old.

Tyler Fischer 46:32 And they're freezing.

Joe Rogan 46:32 And they shouldn't be doing anything. They certainly shouldn't be running the world for future generations if they are ab- absolutely not gonna witness.

Tyler Fischer 46:40 Mitch McConnell is actually stepping down.

Joe Rogan 46:42 Oh, he will step down?

Tyler Fischer 46:43 For sure.

Joe Rogan 46:43 When did he decide?

Tyler Fischer 46:44 Rece- not too long ago. It was just a couple months ago they said that.

Joe Rogan 46:46 Oh, okay. Finally.

Tyler Fischer 46:49 Yeah. 82.

Joe Rogan 46:50 But he should've stepped down fucking immediately.

Tyler Fischer 46:52 I don't know, I don't know- Yeah. He sounds like Mr. Magoo in Jimmy'z Store.

Joe Rogan 46:57 I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, I, I'm, uh...

Tyler Fischer 46:57 I mean you're, you're Xi Jinping or whatever watching these politicians-

Joe Rogan 47:00 Mm-hmm.

Tyler Fischer 47:01 ... just having a good chuckle.

Joe Rogan 47:02 (sighs) I think they, that Xi Jinping knows those politicians don't really run jack shit. It's the, you know what Trump likes to call it. The deep state. The deep state real. It's real 'cause there's a bunch of people that run the government, the government.

Tyler Fischer 47:15 Who are they though?

Joe Rogan 47:17 Well, there's a lot of money. There's heads of immense corporations that have incredible financial control and influence on politicians. This is the reason why lobbyists are some of the richest fucking people in the country. Like some of the richest real estate is in Virginia right outside of DC and it's l- a lot of it's lobbyists. The amount of money that they pour into campaigns and pour into making sure that their agendas are being met and that their businesses get to grow because of regulations or lack of regulations or tariffs or lack of tariffs or whatever the fuck they're trying to do, that's, that's who runs things really and makes decisions. And then the politicians keep us embattled in these social squabbles, you know? It's like when they have, when Kamala Harris had, uh, this, uh, guy in a dress with a beard come to the White House recently-

Tyler Fischer 48:10 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 48:10 ... and she's like, "Oh my god, for Pride Month."

Tyler Fischer 48:11 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 48:12 "Come on in. You're in the White House."

Tyler Fischer 48:13 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 48:13 Like that is to accentuate this so- the social squabbling. It's so people get fired up, "Yay, queers are in the White House," and then other people go, "What the fuck are queers doing in the White House?" It's like that i- this is, uh, this is a part of the grand plan to keep people not paying attention to the really important issues and to just constantly, it's like these, these fucking beach balls they throw up at a concert.

Tyler Fischer 48:45 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:45 They constantly get thrown up. There's, there's-

Tyler Fischer 48:47 It's working too. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:47 ... gay marriage.

Tyler Fischer 48:48 Uh-oh.

Joe Rogan 48:48 They're gonna take away gay marriage now. They're gonna take away abortion. They're gonna take away this. Guns, the border, and they just keep throwing these things in the air so you're just like looking left and right and looking left and right and while this is going on...There's all sorts of laws being passed that allow them to look at any computer, any laptop, any, any phone. You, they're gonna be able to bypass encryption with AI. I was just watching a video where a security expert was talking about that. He was talking about, uh, what's that guy's name? Rob Braxton. He was talking about, um, how AI in your operating system, like once they get AI in your operating system, all the stuff like Signal and WhatsApp, encrypted, end-to-end encrypted devices, that's nonsense. It's not gonna work anymore. It's not gonna do anything. They're, they're gonna be able to get your information before it's encrypted, as you're typing it, before you send it. Everything is going to be transparent. They'll have access to anything they want, anything you have on any device, it doesn't matter what kind of encryption or what kind of bullshit you're using. All that's out the window. And he was explaining that.

Tyler Fischer 49:59 Fuck. What about, uh, Elon's Neuralink chip? Is that... Do you think people are gonna have those-

Joe Rogan 50:04 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 50:05 ... and they can just go open up... You know, they don't have to say it. It's, you just think it. "Open up Google." You know?

Joe Rogan 50:11 That's gonna happen. There's gonna be versions of that and it's gonna get... We had, um... What's Nolan's last name?

Narrator 50:16 Arbach.

Joe Rogan 50:17 Say it again.

Tyler Fischer 50:18 Arbach.

Joe Rogan 50:19 Arba- You say it the right way? Arbach?

Tyler Fischer 50:21 Yeah. Bah, Bach. Arbach.

Joe Rogan 50:23 Arbach. Um, he's the first Neuralink patient. We had him in, uh, the other day, and, uh, I think the episode comes out today.

Narrator 50:31 Yeah, it's out now. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:32 Yeah, it's out now. And yeah, he's the first guy-

Tyler Fischer 50:33 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 50:34 ... to get the Neuralink. And so, he was paralyzed-

Tyler Fischer 50:35 Does he s- sound like Elon? Like, oh, sure. So, it's working pretty well.

Joe Rogan 50:38 No, it's very, very smart.

Tyler Fischer 50:39 Oh, yeah. Really very well.

Joe Rogan 50:40 Very smart. Very interesting person to talk to. Completely paralyzed from the neck down, except for a few movements in his hands, and like, he can kind of move a little bit. His spinal cord's not totally severed, but it's very badly damaged from a-

Tyler Fischer 50:53 Fuck.

Joe Rogan 50:53 ... an accident in the river. And, uh, now with, uh, this Neuralink, he can play video games. He can do all kinds of shit. And he said the cursor goes where his, his eyes go. The cursor goes like exactly where he wants it to go, so he's like, "I have a built-in aim bot if I'm playing video games, 'cause I can just f-... I don't miss." He's like, he's like, "I'm fucking... I look right at it-"

Tyler Fischer 51:18 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 51:18 "... and I could shoot at things," which is pretty wild and it makes you think like, okay, well, for soldiers, that's a must.

Tyler Fischer 51:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:24 You have to give them that. You know, and that's... You know, some of the fighter jets, the new helmets that they have on now are augmented reality helmets and when they're flying the jets, as they're looking at a specific spot, that's where the crosshairs go. So, the, the crosshairs are connected to this, uh, this AR-

Tyler Fischer 51:44 Are we gonna be doing that with jokes? Like you just like-

Joe Rogan 51:47 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 51:47 ... hit the punchline?

Joe Rogan 51:48 I think comedy is probably gonna be one of the last places where the actual human experience exists in a pure form. You know, it's one, one of several reasons why, at the Mothership, we make people put their phones in their bag. Like, get that out of your head.

Tyler Fischer 52:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:05 Stop looking at that. Just sit down and watch a show.

Tyler Fischer 52:07 Huge difference.

Joe Rogan 52:08 It's a giant difference. But if we could still have things like that, it'll remind us wha- of what it's like to be a human, you know.

Tyler Fischer 52:16 I feel like the movies have kind of gone away. Going to the movie theater, I stopped going.

Joe Rogan 52:21 Well, I stopped during the pandemic because you couldn't go, and then I was like, oh, this is way better. If you have a nice TV at home-

Tyler Fischer 52:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:26 ... and no one's gonna interrupt and, you know.

Tyler Fischer 52:29 But there is something about that, kind of. Taking a girl on a date.

Joe Rogan 52:32 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 52:32 But, oh, yeah, I remember when everybody had to be six feet apart and, you know, it's two people-

Joe Rogan 52:36 Oh, God.

Tyler Fischer 52:36 ... in each row.

Joe Rogan 52:37 And that's all made up. When they found out-

Tyler Fischer 52:39 Six f- ugh, six feet?

Joe Rogan 52:40 He's like, "It was out there. I didn't, I didn't make up the rules. It was out there."

Tyler Fischer 52:46 From this flu, when we didn't even have fucking electricity back then.

Joe Rogan 52:51 Well, it's... There's no... It doesn't make sense. It's in the air. It's a respiratory virus. They've never ever, in the history of human beings, been able to contain a respiratory virus. You can't do it. If a respiratory virus gets out to a certain number of people-

Tyler Fischer 53:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:06 ... and it starts spreading-

Tyler Fischer 53:06 You can't.

Joe Rogan 53:06 ... through certain pop- it's just gonna... And it also has, uh, animal reservoirs, so one of the things it find- it, it actually can exist in certain animals. In fact, in deer, they tested a bunch of, uh, white-tailed deer, just wild deer, and a bunch of them tested positive for COVID-19.

Tyler Fischer 53:26 Aren't we gonna look back at this? That six... They're still six feet, staying six feet apart-

Joe Rogan 53:30 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 53:30 ... at the airport. It's so fucking stupid.

Joe Rogan 53:33 Uh... It's so stupid, but it was all a thing where people looked for something to make them feel better, right? So, even though masks didn't work, um, even though six-foot distancing didn't work, if you were out in public and you knew that COVID was a thing and there wasn't some sort of fake measure that made you at least feel safe, like, "You have to stand a little bit apart from each other, you have to wear the mask. We're gonna be okay if we follow these rules. We took the vaccine, we're standing six feet away, we're wearing a mask," and so all those things, even though none of those things kept you from getting COVID, zero of those things kept you from getting COVID. In fact, there's more evidence now that the more of those shots you take, the more you get COVID. There's a bunch of different reasons for that, but I'm not a virologist or biologist. But, uh, those things at least kept people thinking that s- they were doing the right thing and that maybe they're gonna be safe, instead of just a freak out of a bunch of people with no masks-

Tyler Fischer 54:29 Sure.

Joe Rogan 54:29 ... and a wild disease that we've been told is gonna kill everybody.

Tyler Fischer 54:32 I saw the clip of him saying, "You know, masks really, they'll make you feel better." And so I thought, "Okay. Uh, it... That makes sense."

Joe Rogan 54:39 No, but he said in that clip-

Tyler Fischer 54:41 And th-

Joe Rogan 54:41 ... "Yeah, it's not gonna help."

Tyler Fischer 54:42 "It's not gonna help." And then-

Joe Rogan 54:44 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 54:44 ... "Wear one." Then, he... People started wearing two.

Joe Rogan 54:47 Yeah, he was wearing two.

Tyler Fischer 54:48 Yeah, you gotta wear two, then wear a face shield, then put a fucking diaper over your fucking head.

Joe Rogan 54:52 The wear two is just like the woke shit in San Francisco. It never stops. It would go to wear a beekeeper's outfit. It would go further.

Tyler Fischer 54:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:00 If, if they let it stay on, "I wear two masks now. I feel more protected."

Tyler Fischer 55:05 Yeah, wrap yourself in plastic and just stay under water.

Joe Rogan 55:09 It's amazing how that guy can gaslight.It's amazing. He does it, and he's, his hands fidget in the most obvious-

Tyler Fischer 55:16 You can tell with his body language.

Joe Rogan 55:18 Oh, he's fucking full of shit.

Tyler Fischer 55:19 I love watching him when he's in Congress when they're, when they're, you know-

Joe Rogan 55:21 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 55:21 ... interrogating him. "It's all political theater, Ron."

Joe Rogan 55:25 (exhales) Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 55:25 "It's all misinformation and disinformation."

Joe Rogan 55:27 Yeah. Oh, he's well-

Tyler Fischer 55:29 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 55:29 He's well-prepared to gaslight.

Tyler Fischer 55:30 But how can people still watch him and go, "Yeah, you know, we did the right thing."? I mean-

Joe Rogan 55:35 Even in that v- audio that you were talking about-

Tyler Fischer 55:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:38 ... when he said, "When you make people's lives difficult-

Tyler Fischer 55:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:41 ... they will drop their ideological bullshit and get vaccinated."

Tyler Fischer 55:45 Fucking worked.

Joe Rogan 55:46 He said, in, when they were qui- when they were quizzing him on this, when they were asking him about this and confronting him with this, he said, "That's not what I meant."

Tyler Fischer 55:57 Yeah. (laughs) He's sick. He's a-

Joe Rogan 56:00 Like-

Tyler Fischer 56:00 ... sick, mad scientist.

Joe Rogan 56:00 ... what could you possibly have meant other than what you said?

Tyler Fischer 56:05 He c-

Joe Rogan 56:05 I- if you're that guy-

Tyler Fischer 56:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:06 ... this is not like a thought experiment, you're hanging out with buddies-

Tyler Fischer 56:09 Right.

Joe Rogan 56:09 And you're like, "Imagine if you were a guy," you know, like, like, you would tell people. No, that's not what that was. That was you, the head of the NIH, you, the head of our America's t- Coronavirus Task Force. You're the big guy. You're the one America looks to for the answers, and you're saying that.

Tyler Fischer 56:27 Yeah, shame them and i- but God, did that work, man. I, that was, what I l- what I learned from that was how hard it is to stand up for something you believe in.

Joe Rogan 56:37 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 56:37 God damn.

Joe Rogan 56:39 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 56:39 To, to go, "I'm gonna do this," and that, "I'm gonna..." You start to see your friends disappear, your family. I mean, I wasn't allowed for- home for Christmas.

Joe Rogan 56:47 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 56:47 I had to sit outside on a porch with half my family outside wearing masks on, and I'm standing on the other side. It's 38 degrees out.

Joe Rogan 56:55 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 56:56 And I'm going, "What am I, uh, like, like the first AIDS patient here?" And-

Joe Rogan 57:00 How do they respond to that now? They apologize?

Tyler Fischer 57:03 No. No, it's p-

Joe Rogan 57:05 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 57:05 It, well, no, it's just everything's just back, "We're just back. We're back open." N- you know-

Joe Rogan 57:09 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 57:09 ... it's, um, but-

Joe Rogan 57:11 Weird.

Tyler Fischer 57:11 ... that's sh- do you think that's just human nature? Like, we're gonna-

Joe Rogan 57:13 Yeah, people are cowards.

Tyler Fischer 57:15 Uh-

Joe Rogan 57:15 People are cowards, and there's like a mass, uh, b- psychosis that happens. We were like, everybody b- to, to collectively panicked in the face of this fear that we'd never experienced before, uh, like a global pandemic in our lifetime, and then people fell apart. Like, that's what happens to people when they get pressured. There's a lot of people out there that have never really experienced actual pressure in their life.

Tyler Fischer 57:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:41 So when something scary like a virus comes into their life, they fold up like a house of cards. They just can't take it. They don't know what the fuck to do and they don't have any personal sovereignty, so they don't have the ability to go, "Wait, what? What is everyone saying?

Tyler Fischer 57:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:56 That doesn't make any sense. Why am I gonna do that? What are the consequences?" What, how much do we know about pharmaceutical drug companies? Have they ever lied before? Oh, they have. Have they ever been fined? Oh, the most fines in medical history. Okay, uh, what are these studies? Like, how long did they take to do these studies?

Tyler Fischer 58:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:13 Like what, yeah, i- it's 100% effective? What does that mean? How do they define 100% effective? Does that mean y- if you take it, you definitely won't get COVID? 'Cause that's what I thought it meant. Do you know what it meant in 100% effective in stopping death? In the vaccine, that J- uh, Robert Kennedy explained this to me. Um, this is his words, not mine, but if he's right, it's the craziest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life, and I think he's right. In the placebo group, two-

Tyler Fischer 58:40 A- a p- placebo-

Joe Rogan 58:40 ... people died-

Tyler Fischer 58:41 I'm gonna do his voice while you talk if you don't mind.

Joe Rogan 58:43 Don't do that.

Tyler Fischer 58:44 I'm just kidding.

Joe Rogan 58:44 In the placebo group, two people died from COVID. In the vaccine group, one person died.

Tyler Fischer 58:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:49 Two is 100% more than one, so it's 100% effective. Imagine that.

Tyler Fischer 58:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:59 Imagine that kind of math. That's, that's Fauci kind of gaslighting.

Tyler Fischer 59:02 And nobody really knew.

Joe Rogan 59:03 Nobody knew. It's like 100% effective, so you get people like Rachel Maddow on TV telling you that, "The virus stops with you."

Tyler Fischer 59:10 Fuck.

Joe Rogan 59:10 "You can't, you can't get infected, you can't transmit," and then they never even, they, they had to admit later in European Court that they never even tested it for transmission. It was never tested for transmission.

Tyler Fischer 59:20 Who, who hears that and is gonna go, "Ah, fuck it." It's like, no, everyone's like, "Yeah, yeah, I get, I get to be the hero. I get to get the shot-

Joe Rogan 59:28 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 59:28 ... and I get to end it."

Joe Rogan 59:30 Yep.

Tyler Fischer 59:30 I end, that's why people walked around.

Joe Rogan 59:31 And you get to put it on your fucking Instagram-

Tyler Fischer 59:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:33 "I got vaccinated today."

Tyler Fischer 59:34 And you know what? Fucking fine, but don't shame the people who just made the decision that, "It's not for me." I never said one negative thing about the vaccine or who got it, and goddamn, dude, even in the, in the standup scene, I was a far right, uh, uh, QAnon, all the fucking things.

Joe Rogan 59:52 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 59:52 Horse medicine guy, you know, you know, it's like-

Joe Rogan 59:54 Listen, man, I got it on CNN. I know it.

Tyler Fischer 59:56 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:56 I know it more than anybody knows it. And I know her as well.

Tyler Fischer 59:59 Yeah, I love Chris, Chris Cuomo would not... Uh, did you see the Dave Smith-

Joe Rogan 1:00:02 Yeah. Dude, Dave Smith-

Tyler Fischer 1:00:03 He fucking-

Joe Rogan 1:00:04 ... lit him on fire.

Tyler Fischer 1:00:05 God, he lit him on fire.

Joe Rogan 1:00:06 Pissed on his corpse.

Tyler Fischer 1:00:06 That piece of shit. You, that, that clip actually, I made, I did an impression of you doing an impression of Don Lemon.

Joe Rogan 1:00:15 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 1:00:15 Dude, wait, you mean don't get the vaccine? Can't go to work.

Joe Rogan 1:00:18 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 1:00:18 Don't get the vaccine. You c- you can't take a poop.

Joe Rogan 1:00:20 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 1:00:20 Don't get the vaccine. Unbelievable that that is on national television and that clip lives on and they get to just get away with that.

Joe Rogan 1:00:28 Well, not only that, him and Chris Cuomo when he's talking about people injecting veterinary medicine and then Chris Cuomo saying, "Ivermectin? A dewormer?" Like, the, the stupidity in which they were describing on cable television. Like, first of all, you're not injecting anything, you fucking idiot. You're taking a small pill that's one of the safest drug profiles of any drug in recorded history that's been prescribed-

Tyler Fischer 1:00:55 Sure.

Joe Rogan 1:00:55 ... to human beings billions of times. And the fact that they had the balls to go on TV and frame it that way, and then Chris Cuomo with, with Dave Smith saying like, "This is what we are being told," that they were take... Like, you don't have Google? Like, you just go out on CNN, you spit out what they're telling you?

Tyler Fischer 1:01:13 Even at-

Joe Rogan 1:01:13 Like, you didn't look at it at all?

Tyler Fischer 1:01:14 Even at the same token, even if you wanted to go experiment with an actual... Why don't you get to do that?So, you- e- everybody has to take this experimental fucking rushed vaccine that Trump pushed the regulations. Well-

Joe Rogan 1:01:28 Yeah. But you're missing the point. The point is I was already better. That's the dumbest part about this.

Tyler Fischer 1:01:32 Sure, sure.

Joe Rogan 1:01:32 The dumbest part about... "Let them experiment, let them not experiment." That's not the point. The, the, the point was, I got better really quick.

Tyler Fischer 1:01:38 Which is... hooray, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:39 Yeah. But they didn't want that.

Tyler Fischer 1:01:40 No.

Joe Rogan 1:01:40 So, that's when the machine moved and, you know, they went with this horse dewormer narrative because they were worried that other people were going to start taking ivermectin. I took a bunch of things, and I talked about all... I didn't say ivermectin by itself. I said, "IV vitamins-"

Tyler Fischer 1:01:54 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 "...monoclonal anti-antibodies, Z-Paks." I- I- I said... I literally gave the list of different things. There was, um, some cortis- what is that stuff called? There was some sort of a steroid that I took too. What was it called?

Tyler Fischer 1:02:11 You were better, like, in two days or something, right?

Joe Rogan 1:02:13 Yeah. Quick.

Tyler Fischer 1:02:14 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 1:02:15 Like quick, like it was-

Tyler Fischer 1:02:16 How old are you?

Joe Rogan 1:02:16 ... gone. 56.

Tyler Fischer 1:02:17 God damn.

Joe Rogan 1:02:18 I was, I was working, I did 10 rounds on the bag six days later. I was like, "Let's see what's going on." Because the only way to really see what's going on is to see if I have endurance.

Tyler Fischer 1:02:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:27 I did 10 rounds on the bag, I was nothing. At five days in, I did a workout and I was... I tried it. And I was like, "I feel pretty good." Um, I don't want to, like, relapse 'cause I kept hearing that people would work out too quick and they'd relapse. So, I said, "Let me just go for, like, a decent workout and see how I feel." If I feel at all drained or tired, I'm pretty in tune, which is, you know, how I knew something was wrong in the first place, I'm pretty tuned in to my body. And then, the next day I said, "All right, let's fucking push it. Let's see what's up." And I- I pushed it, and I felt 100%. I was 100% six days later. And I think I was 100% five days later, I just didn't try. So, that was bad for the narrative 'cause the narrative was, this thing was super dangerous, you know, you- you need to take a vaccine, this is the only way through it. And my doctor was saying, "No, no, it's not as dangerous as they're saying, especially someone like you who works out every day and takes vitamins every day and always eats healthy, this is not the thing that's gonna get you." He's like, "Well, the people that are dying, what I'm seeing is people with comorbidities..." He was explaining everything to me. And he recommended a- a series of nutrients to take to prepare yourself, to like, to pump up your immune system. And he's like, "But there's a bunch of things that you can take if you do get infected that will help you recover," and that's what I took, and it worked.

Tyler Fischer 1:03:50 Yeah. Think how many people could have perhaps-

Joe Rogan 1:03:53 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 1:03:53 ...replicated that.

Joe Rogan 1:03:54 They didn't want that.

Tyler Fischer 1:03:55 You know? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:55 In order to have the emergency use authorization so that they could make sure that everybody gets vaccinated, they had to have no other treatments. That's why they demonized ivermectin, that's why they demonized hydroxychloroquine, that's why they- they kept a lot of people from getting monoclonal antibodies. They didn't want any solution other than the one that was gonna make them insane amounts of money, and that's what they pushed for, and we went through that.

Tyler Fischer 1:04:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:16 And the thing is, like, are... did we learn? That's the question. Did we learn?

Tyler Fischer 1:04:20 I don't think so.

Joe Rogan 1:04:20 I don't know.

Tyler Fischer 1:04:21 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:04:21 I think a lot of people learned.

Tyler Fischer 1:04:22 A lot of people learned, I think, and I think that a lot of people-

Joe Rogan 1:04:24 You learned.

Tyler Fischer 1:04:25 I learned, but I almost didn't survive it. T- t- to go through that, and I had no... I had no bank account, I had no money. The- the money I was getting was from comedy club cash, and I had just gotten to the clubs in New York City, and I decided, "I'm not... I'm not going, 'Here's my papers to get in.'"

Joe Rogan 1:04:42 Right.

Tyler Fischer 1:04:42 "I'm not doing it."

Joe Rogan 1:04:43 Right.

Tyler Fischer 1:04:43 Not doing it. I fucking performed outside during those shows. I was performing for free outside, outside of comedy clubs. And then, once the vaccine, they said, "We need your papers," and I just said, "I can't do it." They said, "Okay, take care."

Joe Rogan 1:04:57 Wow.

Tyler Fischer 1:04:57 And- and to do-

Joe Rogan 1:04:58 So, how long did you go from that to not doing standup? How many... how many months did you not do standup?

Tyler Fischer 1:05:03 Well, I started just doing videos in my living room. I lost my fucking mind.

Joe Rogan 1:05:08 (laughs)

Tyler Fischer 1:05:08 That's the thing, is I- I... And- and when I tour, a lot of my fans, you know, um, went through a similar thing. And so when I meet them after, it's- it's, um, it's- it's painful 'cause everybody tells me this story. "I'm a firefighter, I lost my job." "I'm a nurse, I lost my job."

Joe Rogan 1:05:25 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 1:05:25 "I lost my family." "I was isolated." My- my... Just met a guy, his daughter killed herself because she couldn't, um, practice her sports. She was locked in her bedroom.

Joe Rogan 1:05:33 Hmm.

Tyler Fischer 1:05:33 It's like, the fucking damage that was done...

Joe Rogan 1:05:37 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 1:05:37 And to be able to stay steady during that and go, "All right, I'm gonna go through this now without any friends," and being labeled this far-right crazy person for just saying, "No, thanks" to the shot.

Joe Rogan 1:05:50 Yeah.

Tyler Fischer 1:05:51 It- it... You can't believe, you know, what that does to you. And so I just feel... I feel so... I feel so much for these people that did it and who s- who stuck up to it.

Joe Rogan 1:06:02 Yeah. I do too. And I also feel for the people that got suckered into taking it, and now they have, like, serious consequences.

Tyler Fischer 1:06:08 Sure.

Joe Rogan 1:06:08 Serious health problems. You know, I was ready to- to get vaccinated. The UFC had allocated a bunch of vaccines for their employees.

Tyler Fischer 1:06:16 Okay.

Joe Rogan 1:06:16 Just 'cause they were doing shows during the pandemic. We did shows in the height of the pandemic with no crowds. So, the UFC has this place called the Apex Center.

Tyler Fischer 1:06:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:06:25 And the Apex Center is a small arena that the UFC built, and they built it to do, like, the Dana White Tuesday Night Contender Series and a bunch of different other fights that they film there. And so we went there, um, and they said, "We've got the vaccine so you can get vaccinated. Uh, we- we saved one for you if you want to get it." I said, "Okay, great." A lot of the UFC employees got it. It was the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. And so I called up the doctor, "Hey, uh, can I get it today?" It was like the day of the fights. He said, "I can't do it today, you gotta... you have to come to the clinic. Can you come on Monday?" And I said, "I can't come on Monday, um, I- I gotta go back Sunday," I said, "but I'll be back in two weeks for the next fights. We'll do it then." In the time that I left, the- the vaccine got pulled for blood clots, and I knew two people-

Tyler Fischer 1:07:11 What the f-

Joe Rogan 1:07:11 ...that had strokes. One guy that I met and another guy who was a friend of a guy that I met, and they- they told me that they had strokes, like, within five days of getting vaccinated. And I was like, "Wait, what?" And then...... they were saying, I was reading the news story about it. They were pull- they were pulling it because of blood clots.

Tyler Fischer 1:07:28 Yeah, I remember that.

Joe Rogan 1:07:28 And these guys had got, had str- and I'm like, "Holy shit." And I think I talked to the UFC, I go, "Hey man, I don't wanna take that." And, you know, they, one of the guys that I talked to over there was like, "I agree with you." He like, you know, "I took it. I don't know. I think I'm, I feel okay. But I know a guy, I know a guy..." Everybody knew a guy that got fucked up.

Tyler Fischer 1:07:48 Hm.

Joe Rogan 1:07:48 Everybody knew somebody who got fucked up by it. But it was like all the sudden, the- the genie had come out of the bottle. Because before that, I was all in. I was, I was not in any way, shape, or form anti-vax. And, and in fact-

Tyler Fischer 1:07:59 But that doesn't make you anti-vax for not wanting to get one of them, though.

Joe Rogan 1:08:02 Yeah, but I mean, and- and my point is, in fact, I was at a, I- I was having a conversation with, uh, one of the scientists that I talked to about this, and I was like, "Maybe this would be good to get people that are these crazy people that are anti-vaccine to like wake up and recognize the importance of these things." So, this is my mindset back then.

Tyler Fischer 1:08:19 Hm.

Joe Rogan 1:08:20 And so, when that happened, I decided like, "I'm not taking a chance with this thing. Like, this is too weird." And then I knew another guy who had some sort of a heart problem from the Moderna one, allegedly. And then it just got w- it just started getting weirder and weirder. And then, when a couple of my friends got COVID, one of the things that happened is my whole family got COVID. And I was like, "Well, I- I should probably just get it." And I was like, "If I get..." I was getting tested every day because we were doing the podcast.

Tyler Fischer 1:08:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:51 So, the way we would do the podcast to keep everybody safe is all the employees got tested, security got tested, I got tested, everybody got tested, and a couple of times we had to cancel shows because someone, someone tested positive. And then we all, everybody had to keep getting tested. We were very diligent about it. But my whole family got it. My kids got it, and they were fine. Like, they skated through it. Like, one day, two days, they felt great. Like, this was early, early days. Like, no vaccine. No one knew what the fuck the treatment was. Um, my wife got it. She took ivermectin because they were actually prescribing it back then, and her doctor prescribed it back then. This is the early, early days.

Tyler Fischer 1:09:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:29 I didn't get it. But I did feel not good. But I was in the house, man. I hugged the kids, and they were like, "You're gonna get it." I'm like, "I'm not gonna get it."

Tyler Fischer 1:09:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:09:37 I was like, it was a j- we were joking around.

Tyler Fischer 1:09:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:39 'Cause like, they weren't even that sick. And my, my wife got it worse than them for sure. But I didn't get it, and I kept working out. I was working out, and, uh, I remember one day I worked out and I didn't feel good. I was like, "Man, I feel fucking weak." And I was like, "I'm just gonna do, um, like, use like lighter weights and just go through, uh, like three series of this routine that I do, just light and easy. Don't push it, just- just get the blood flowing a little bit." And then the next day, I went back to the gym and I did the same thing. I started working out. I was like, "God, I don't fucking feel that good." Like, "I still feel a little off. All right, let's just do the same thing. Nice and light, just go through the motions, not pushing anything." And then the next day, I went in and I felt fucking great. I'm like, "Okay, it's gone. Whatever it was, it's gone."

Tyler Fischer 1:10:25 Damn.

Joe Rogan 1:10:26 I tested every day, never tested positive for it, but my body clearly was fighting something. Like, there's something going on, and I, because I'm so in tune with it, I recognized that, and I didn't push. I do have some friends, though, that are meatheads, and they also felt that same thing, and they were doing jujitsu and they just kept training really hard.

Tyler Fischer 1:10:44 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:10:44 And they got real sick. Because if you get sick while you're broken down from training ...

Tyler Fischer 1:10:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:51 Like, if you have a really hard, really hard workout, is y- the whole thing is it makes your body stronger because it breaks you down, and then your body has to build back up again, and then you get stronger.

Tyler Fischer 1:11:01 I- I gotta have your help- help- help build a body here.

Joe Rogan 1:11:03 We can have you.

Tyler Fischer 1:11:04 If- if you can help me, dude. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:11:06 You can tell ... Hasan's been working out.

Tyler Fischer 1:11:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:11:07 We- we could have you come in here.

Tyler Fischer 1:11:08 I do laps in my hot tub, man. That's as much as I do.