Joe Rogan Experience #2168 - Tyler Fischer

1. 0:00 – 2:19

   Tyler arrives in Austin: coffee, Ari stories, and settling into Texas

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Oh. (laughs) Hey, Joe Rogan.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      (laughs) What's going on?

   5. TFTyler Fischer0:16

      Is there a left or right here, or does it matter?

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      No, it's all mono. What's cracking, brother?

   7. TFTyler Fischer0:20

      Ha, ah, yeah. Let me just get a little, uh, a little confidence here.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      (laughs)

   9. TFTyler Fischer0:26

      I'm so small. This is like a large coffee to me.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       The- they'll make you pee. They'll make you pee. That's one thing Nespresso will do.

   11. TFTyler Fischer0:32

       I'm peeing right now, dude. I'm just gonna do the Biden, just let it out.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Ari peed in that seat three or four times yesterday.

   13. TFTyler Fischer0:39

       Yesterday?

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Yeah, he- he pissed into Bud Light cans.

   15. NANarrator0:43

       Yup.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       He's so disgusting.

   17. TFTyler Fischer0:45

       Ari Shaffir?

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Every t- oh, yeah, every time he's here-

   19. TFTyler Fischer0:47

       Oh, I didn't know he was here.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       ... he pees into things.

   21. TFTyler Fischer0:49

       I'm trying to get him to move here.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Uh, he's not going to. He's a New York rat.

   23. TFTyler Fischer0:53

       Yeah, he's, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       But he's here all the time. I mean, he might as well live here. He's here like four or five times a year.

   25. TFTyler Fischer0:59

       Yeah, just-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       Good enough.

   27. TFTyler Fischer1:00

       ... I mean, it's good enough.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       He should. He should move here.

   29. TFTyler Fischer1:04

       He's so funny, man. I love watching him at the Comedy Cellar, 'cause he's one of the guys that just fucking goes for it.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       Yeah, he go- he definitely goes for it. It's gotten him in a lot of trouble. (laughs)
2. 2:19 – 3:49

   From troubled teen to performer: the teacher who redirected Tyler’s life

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:19

      How long you been doing standup now?

   2. TFTyler Fischer2:21

      I mean, I got on stage when I was 17 or 18 in high school, started doing improv and standup on stage. That's almost 20 years.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:27

      Oh, wow.

   4. TFTyler Fischer2:28

      And then I went to college.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:29

      High school?

   6. TFTyler Fischer2:30

      Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was f- so I was failing out of high school. I needed like a B to pass and I was friends with the acting teacher. We would drink together.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:41

      What? In high school?

   8. TFTyler Fischer2:41

      I- public school, brother, public school.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:43

      Wow.

   10. TFTyler Fischer2:43

       Yeah. We would drink together and smoke and I thought, "If I take his class, he's gotta give me an A or I can get him sent to jail probably for all this bad behavior."

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:52

       (laughs)

   12. TFTyler Fischer2:52

       And, and I, I, so I took this acting class, and, uh, and I got on stage. And he pulls me aside, like day one. He goes, "This is what you need to do with your life."

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:02

       Wow.

   14. TFTyler Fischer3:02

       And I go, "Okay, okay." Stop drinking, stop smoking. I was like in a gang.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:07

       (laughs)

   16. TFTyler Fischer3:08

       I was growing weed. Yeah, I was a nightmare kid.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:11

       (laughs)

   18. TFTyler Fischer3:11

       People think I'm just this nice little guy. I was a fucking monster, and getting on stage, and I got all that energy out. And, uh, it's what I've been doing every day since.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:20

       Wow.

   20. TFTyler Fischer3:21

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:22

       That's cool that someone recognized that, 'cause most of the time they don't.

   22. TFTyler Fischer3:25

       It takes one person.

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:27

       Yeah.

   24. TFTyler Fischer3:27

       It's insane.

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:28

       It takes one person, and, you know, that one person literally can change your life, 'cause you're in this p- part of your life where you're not- you don't know what the fuck you're gonna do.

   26. TFTyler Fischer3:37

       No.

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:38

       And then someone gives you a direction and they say, "Hey, you're really good at this. This is your thing."

   28. TFTyler Fischer3:43

       That's it.

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:44

       You're like, "Oh my God, I found my thing."

   30. TFTyler Fischer3:46

       Yeah.
3. 3:49 – 6:52

   Learning to get ‘messy’: humiliation as training and the Holtzman effect

   1. TFTyler Fischer3:49

      Yeah, he had us, uh, uh, first class we had to dance on stage.

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:53

      (laughs)

   3. TFTyler Fischer3:53

      He, 'cause he was like-

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:54

      This guy was wild.

   5. TFTyler Fischer3:54

      ... he goes, "You're gonna fuck..." Oh, he was wild, dude. He was a playwright. He'd, he'd take the Metro-North in from Connecticut, New Haven, to, uh, put on little plays. And I just thought, I just thought it was the sexiest thing. It was like this guy was like living in the 1920s or something.

   6. JRJoe Rogan4:08

      Right, like a real artist.

   7. TFTyler Fischer4:09

      Yeah, yeah. And he goes-

   8. JRJoe Rogan4:11

      Wow.

   9. TFTyler Fischer4:11

      ... he goes, "We're gonna humiliate ourselves day one." He goes, "It's gonna be so bad, so everything you do after this is gonna be a breeze." And I, and I've, I've still used that to this day with standup. You, you gotta get messy. You gotta... So he said, "We're gonna go do the silliest dances." And I, I went home, I was practicing in the-

   10. JRJoe Rogan4:28

       (laughs)

   11. TFTyler Fischer4:28

       ... in the bathroom just sweating, turn around. I've never performed.

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:33

       (laughs)

   13. TFTyler Fischer4:33

       And I'd get on stage and he'd be like, "Sillier, weirder, weirder," until you just had a mental breakdown. And then after that, doing a little Shakespeare was fine.

   14. JRJoe Rogan4:43

       Oh, that's an interesting strategy.

   15. TFTyler Fischer4:44

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:45

       That makes sense.

   17. TFTyler Fischer4:45

       You need someone to break you down and go, "You're allowed to fuck up. You're allowed to get messy."

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:49

       Yeah.

   19. TFTyler Fischer4:50

       And that's, that's why I got a place here, 'cause I went to your club and I saw, um, Brian Holtzman. And I go, "Wait a minute, you're allowed to do this?"

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:58

       (laughs)

   21. TFTyler Fischer4:59

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:59

       There's a place where you-

   23. TFTyler Fischer5:01

       Where you-

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:01

       ... where you're allowed to say whatever you want? And it's just- Well, Brian Holtzman was like a hero of comedians in Los Angeles, but he didn't get good spots, unfortunately. They would put him on really late at the end of the show, and it was a wild thing to watch. You know, you're watching like 20, 30 people in the audience to this guy saying the, the most hilarious but yet horrific things.

   25. TFTyler Fischer5:23

       (laughs) Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:24

       And he just never got the respect that he deserves. I've known Brian for, I guess, around 30 years now. When we first started at the store, we were like young hotshots. He was like this young, dark-haired, slicked-back, like really-

   27. TFTyler Fischer5:43

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan5:43

       ... interesting guy. Like really, like same style that he has now, he had back then.

   29. TFTyler Fischer5:48

       I can't imagine him with any more energy than he has now, though.

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:52

       It was the same.
4. 6:52 – 9:48

   Comedy camp in Austin: moving fast, taking chances, and touring burnout

   1. TFTyler Fischer6:52

      So that was it. I saw him once, and I, then I was like, "Oh yeah." I was, I went to, like, the open mic or whatever, you know?

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:57

      Mm-hmm.

   3. TFTyler Fischer6:57

      I was in town doing the Vulcan, I think. And then I go, "Oh, I'm gonna try to get an audition." Adam wasn't here. Flew back, got the audition, then did a couple spots, then did a guest spot on Holtzmann's show, and then I was in the car in New York. I pull over. I'm just looking at apartments in Texas. I just called the guy. I go, "Hey, can I move there?"

   4. JRJoe Rogan7:16

      (laughs)

   5. TFTyler Fischer7:17

      I made him an offer. I made him an offer that was, like, insane. I'm renting. He literally goes, "Are you fucking with me, dude?" And, uh, the next day he goes, "They took your offer." And I was, and that was it.

   6. JRJoe Rogan7:28

      Wow.

   7. TFTyler Fischer7:29

      Yeah. And it was like a, I know Ron White calls it comedy camp. It feels like that. When you're, when I'm landing here, it feels like Camp David or something.

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:36

      Yeah. Ari said it yesterday. He said, "You made a festival here every week." It's like a festival.

   9. TFTyler Fischer7:41

      It's a festival.

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:41

       Yeah.

   11. TFTyler Fischer7:42

       I is wasn't sure if I'd made the right move, and then I'm on the plane, and it's Roseanne Barr, the next row back, Sebastian Maniscalco, and I'm right behind him.

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:53

       Wow.

   13. TFTyler Fischer7:53

       And I was losing my fucking mind.

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:58

       (laughs)

   15. TFTyler Fischer7:58

       I was like, I go, "This is it."

   16. JRJoe Rogan8:00

       Yeah. Well, whenever you don't know if you should do something, and you're like, you wanna do something, but then you have that little, (inhales deeply) "Oh, I don't know. Is this right?" You gotta always go for it.

   17. TFTyler Fischer8:11

       You gotta do it.

   18. JRJoe Rogan8:12

       You gotta go for it.

   19. TFTyler Fischer8:12

       And you get better at that as you age, you know?

   20. JRJoe Rogan8:14

       Yeah.

   21. TFTyler Fischer8:14

       It's like you, you have to, you gotta fuck up a lot, and then you go, "I'll fuck up a little less this time."

   22. JRJoe Rogan8:19

       Yeah, there, the fuck up thing, but it's also just, like, taking chances, going for things, is very important. Every time I've ever done it, it's been good, my whole life, every single time, whether it's first time going on stage, you know, even this, even, like, moving here.

   23. TFTyler Fischer8:34

       Sure.

   24. JRJoe Rogan8:34

       You know, 'cause I have a family, and I had a business, you know, or like, uh, this podcast that requires-

   25. TFTyler Fischer8:39

       No, that's true.

   26. JRJoe Rogan8:39

       ... guests and-

   27. TFTyler Fischer8:40

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:40

       ... I had all these people c- that already lived in LA. I had this built in, you know, g- group of people that I would have on, and it's just like, coming out here was, but I was like, "This is, this is the move." And then opening the club, I was like, "This is the move."

   29. TFTyler Fischer8:54

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan8:54

       "This, and it's gonna be fucking a- annoying. It's gonna be a lot of energy, a lot of stuff going on, a lot of things to pay attention to, but that's what really needs to happen."
5. 9:48 – 15:24

   San Francisco politics and the escalation of woke signaling

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:48

      You silly boy. Did you s- uh, I was telling you before this, this mayoral race in San Francisco. This might be the end. This m- this might be, like, San Francisco is a failed city. I mean, it really is. But this, there's no better indication of how failed it is than listening to this debate, listening to these people argue about what's important in San Francisco. So this was on the Jesse Watter show. You gotta (laughs) you gotta listen to this 'cause-

   2. NANarrator10:17

      Well, how many drag queens do you know?

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:20

      (laughs)

   4. TFTyler Fischer10:20

      (laughs)

   5. NANarrator10:20

      You were at the debate last week and couldn't name, uh, any drag queens on your own. I was wondering if you could-

   6. JRJoe Rogan10:30

      (laughs)

   7. NANarrator10:30

      This is an opportunity to redeem yourself, uh, and if you could name three LGBTQ advisors for your campaign and three drag queens, uh, in San Francisco. The San Franci-

   8. JRJoe Rogan10:44

      Just imagine.

   9. TFTyler Fischer10:46

      Shut the fuck up.

   10. JRJoe Rogan10:47

       And that was the thing she was gonna sit down on. This is the actual current mayor of San Francisco, London Breed.

   11. TFTyler Fischer10:55

       London Breed.

   12. JRJoe Rogan10:55

       That's her, right?

   13. NANarrator10:55

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan10:56

       Yeah, and she's like, "Can you name three drag queens?" Can you na- name three mentally ill men who a- dress up, like the most tardish, caricaturous-

   15. TFTyler Fischer11:08

       Like famous or just like Pixie that does the, you know, the kids-

   16. JRJoe Rogan11:12

       Yeah.

   17. TFTyler Fischer11:12

       ... story hour down at the library?

   18. JRJoe Rogan11:13

       I know Lexus.

   19. TFTyler Fischer11:14

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan11:14

       Lexus, yeah. Lexus, down at the club, she does the burlesque show. What the fuck are you talking about?

   21. TFTyler Fischer11:20

       Yeah. No, sit back and enjoy. This is, sit back and enjoy the show. When woke, wokeism just takes on a f- uh-

   22. JRJoe Rogan11:27

       Yeah.

   23. TFTyler Fischer11:27

       ... this energy, and it, and it gets crazier and crazier. I mean, look at the, the sexuality acronym. It used to be gay and lesbian, GL.

   24. JRJoe Rogan11:36

       Right.

   25. TFTyler Fischer11:36

       It is, watching politicians have to recite that, oh I, it's so am- it's like-

   26. JRJoe Rogan11:40

       Trudeau's the best at it.

   27. TFTyler Fischer11:41

       ... they have a gun to their head.

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:42

       Yeah.

   29. TFTyler Fischer11:42

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:42

       Trudeau has 'em all down. But the f- my favorite is 2AI+.
6. 15:24 – 21:49

   Growing up with a gay dad: lived experience, secrecy, and shifting cultural norms

   1. TFTyler Fischer15:24

      I- my, uh, dad came out of the closet when I was seven, so I was raised in this stuff. He came out as racist, but he, uh-

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:31

      Duh.

   3. TFTyler Fischer15:31

      No, he's gay. I got a gay dad. I do.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      I have two da- two dad, mom, uh, remarried, and then my dad with a husband. And so it's funny. I try to talk about this. You're like, "Well, shut up, straight white guy. You- you- this isn't your lived experience." I'm like, "No, it is. It is." I- Do you say about... Do you say this on stage?

   5. TFTyler Fischer15:47

      I talk-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:48

      Do you talk about it on stage?

   7. TFTyler Fischer15:48

      I talk about it everywhere. Uh, yeah, people started booing me when I started talking about this in- in New York City a long time ago. It was the first time where I talked about my personal life, 'cause I have a crazy f- everyone has a crazy life.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:58

      What were they booing?

   9. TFTyler Fischer15:59

      Well, they're just like, "You can't talk... You can't talk about... You can't... That's their life. You can't talk about what it's like to be a gay person." And it's like, when I was seven, I was hiding it from my friends, so I was living like a closeted gay guy.

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       Oh.

   11. TFTyler Fischer16:13

       I w- I- I went to insane lengths to hide my dad having a boyfriend, 'cause back... This was 1993. That's when it was, you know. And- and prior.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       Yeah.

   13. TFTyler Fischer16:24

       That's when it was bad. But I- I- I- I imagine what guys like that think of what's going on now, to be like, "You're like a two spirit hetero-" You know, with norm-

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       Yeah.

   15. TFTyler Fischer16:34

       Whatever the shit is.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       Yeah.

   17. TFTyler Fischer16:35

       And back then, it was bad. Um, but-

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:39

       When I was in, uh, middle school, my friend Josh, his mom was gay, and he didn't tell us. And nobody- nobody talked about it, but I-

   19. TFTyler Fischer16:48

       Lesbian moms are a little cooler though.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:50

       Yeah. (laughs)

   21. TFTyler Fischer16:50

       (laughs) Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:50

       She... I mean, she had the whole thing. Like, she was wearing the sleeveless vest with the big arms.

   23. TFTyler Fischer16:55

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:55

       She was a big lady, and she had a girlfriend with short hair that was always over the house. It was, like, the whole... Like, you'd go, "Who's that lady?" "Oh, that's my mom's friend."

   25. TFTyler Fischer17:03

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:03

       "Why is she always over... Does she live with you?"

   27. TFTyler Fischer17:05

       That's exactly what happened.

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:05

       It was one of them things.

   29. TFTyler Fischer17:06

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:07

       Uh, but I lived in San Francisco, and so when I moved to Boston, I moved to Florida for a few years, then we moved to Boston. Like, I'd been around gay people from the time I was seven to 11.
7. 21:49 – 24:56

   Trauma, institutions, and accountability: priest suicide and church scandals

   1. TFTyler Fischer21:49

      This, I, um... My priest, and I don't know the backstory on this, but he blew, he blew his brains out when I was eight years old.

   2. JRJoe Rogan21:55

      Jesus, dude.

   3. TFTyler Fischer21:56

      Yeah, yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan21:57

      Seven and eight was rough for you.

   5. TFTyler Fischer21:58

      Seven was dad coming out, and then, um-

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:01

      The pri- priest. What did the priest do that he wanted to blow his brains out?

   7. TFTyler Fischer22:04

      I don't know, but I always-

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:05

      Catholic?

   9. TFTyler Fischer22:06

      I always think about it 'cause I'm like, "Were my blowjobs that bad?"

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:10

       Bah. (laughs)

   11. TFTyler Fischer22:10

       You know what I mean? Were they that bad?

   12. JRJoe Rogan22:12

       (laughs) Was it Catholic? You still crying-

   13. TFTyler Fischer22:13

       I don't know what he did.

   14. JRJoe Rogan22:14

       ... after the blowjobs?

   15. TFTyler Fischer22:15

       He didn't touch me 'cause I, I wasn't a part of it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan22:17

       Catholic?

   17. TFTyler Fischer22:18

       Methodist.

   18. JRJoe Rogan22:19

       Methodist?

   19. TFTyler Fischer22:19

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan22:19

       Interesting. Are they allowed to get married?

   21. TFTyler Fischer22:22

       Yeah, I think so.

   22. JRJoe Rogan22:22

       Huh. The Catholic ones.

   23. TFTyler Fischer22:25

       They're not allowed to blow their brains out. Uh, he did it at the altar.

   24. JRJoe Rogan22:27

       Oh my God.

   25. TFTyler Fischer22:28

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan22:28

       In front of everybody?

   27. TFTyler Fischer22:29

       Nath- no, off day. Thank God.

   28. JRJoe Rogan22:31

       Wow.

   29. TFTyler Fischer22:31

       But I remember going back in, like, the next day, and we just had a new guy, and he had a mustache. He looked like Ned Flanders, and I'm like, "No. I can't, I can't do this any-" Like...

   30. JRJoe Rogan22:40

       Did they tell everybody what happened?
8. 24:56 – 29:21

   Woody Allen, art vs. allegations, and the end of an era of prolific filmmaking

   1. TFTyler Fischer24:56

      You go out- you go out and make Midnight at Paris after that.

   2. JRJoe Rogan25:00

      Yes. (laughs) Well, he di- he never went to jail.

   3. TFTyler Fischer25:03

      No, no, I don't- I don't know if he did, you know...

   4. JRJoe Rogan25:04

      Well, he did something.

   5. TFTyler Fischer25:05

      I- I went out with a girl who to- she goes, "I feel like I'm with- hanging out with Woody Allen when I'm hanging out with you." And I was like, "I don't know if that was a-"

   6. JRJoe Rogan25:13

      Like what year Woody Allen?

   7. TFTyler Fischer25:14

      Yeah, yeah. I was like-

   8. JRJoe Rogan25:14

      You ever do? Annie Hall?

   9. TFTyler Fischer25:15

      I was like, "You give me an existential crisis, you know. You're not even Asian. You know, I'm trying something different."

   10. JRJoe Rogan25:20

       Have you ever listened to his old standup?

   11. TFTyler Fischer25:22

       Yeah, I like it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan25:23

       It's so pervy.

   13. TFTyler Fischer25:24

       I- uh, yeah, he's very pervy. Yeah, yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan25:25

       But it's- it's hilarious how openly pervy he is.

   15. TFTyler Fischer25:29

       Yeah, yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan25:29

       And then you have to think of the time in which he was doing the standup. This is the 1960s.

   17. TFTyler Fischer25:33

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan25:34

       So he's doing this, like, weird sexual stand-

   19. TFTyler Fischer25:37

       Yeah, I was fucking a moose, you know. The moose had me mounted on the wall, and it was, you know...

   20. JRJoe Rogan25:41

       Well, he's talking about girls.

   21. TFTyler Fischer25:43

       Y- yeah, yeah. Girls.

   22. JRJoe Rogan25:43

       The way he talks about girls. I loved girls.

   23. TFTyler Fischer25:46

       His voice is so... To be a m- you know, he really, this is- this is really what his voice is, you know. And t- you're a knockout, Joe. You really are. And-

   24. JRJoe Rogan25:55

       He's an odd dude.

   25. TFTyler Fischer25:56

       Yeah, that's just-

   26. JRJoe Rogan25:57

       What is...

   27. TFTyler Fischer25:57

       When you're funny, though-

   28. JRJoe Rogan25:58

       Yeah.

   29. TFTyler Fischer25:59

       You can be... That's- that's your currency. He's an ugly, weird-looking guy, but if you're funny, you- that's- that's what you do.

   30. JRJoe Rogan26:06

       Yeah, up until the whole child molesting a- accusations.
9. 29:21 – 38:28

   COVID backlash and mandates: Tyler’s refusal, social exile, and Fauci reversals

   1. TFTyler Fischer29:21

      Yeah, I was one of them. But- but it was more because I- because I didn't get the vaccine and couldn't take part in society. That was a fun little experiment we did, that we're just gonna pretend like never happened.

   2. JRJoe Rogan29:31

      Yeah, that was an interesting thing, right?

   3. TFTyler Fischer29:32

      Interesting little thing, yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan29:34

      Yeah.

   5. TFTyler Fischer29:34

      We had segregation in this country-

   6. JRJoe Rogan29:37

      Uh-huh.

   7. TFTyler Fischer29:37

      ... based on medicine, and then we're back to pretending like it never fucking happened.

   8. JRJoe Rogan29:41

      Well- well, at least now they're s- they're having hearings on it. From what I've watched, it's-

   9. TFTyler Fischer29:45

      Yeah, nine years later. Fauci was on TV the other day going, "You know, it could've come from the- the lab. It may have been a leak. I wanna stay open-minded." And on CNN they're like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan29:54

       Yeah.

   11. TFTyler Fischer29:54

       ... "Yeah, okay." Like, what?

   12. JRJoe Rogan29:56

       (laughs)

   13. TFTyler Fischer29:57

       Did you see all that leaked stuff coming out of his audio?

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:00

       Yeah. Yeah.

   15. TFTyler Fischer30:00

       "You gotta make a human- make pressure, people. You gotta..."

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:03

       Yeah. They'll drop-

   17. TFTyler Fischer30:04

       God.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:04

       ... their ideological bullshit when they can't work.

   19. TFTyler Fischer30:07

       True.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:07

       It's been shown when you make their lives difficult, they will drop their ideological bullshit.

   21. TFTyler Fischer30:12

       Just give them another booster. Boost them up.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:14

       Imagine saying that about people's jobs, that you're gonna force them into making a decision with their own body, and not only that but mandate it, and not only that, as a doctor, know that some people are allergic to some of the...... uh, components, some of the, some of the-

   23. TFTyler Fischer30:30

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       ... actual ingredients in these vaccines.

   25. TFTyler Fischer30:31

       Sure.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:32

       Aaron Rodgers is one of them.

   27. TFTyler Fischer30:33

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       He's allergic to one of the chemicals that's in it.

   29. TFTyler Fischer30:36

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:36

       Can't take it.
10. 38:28 – 47:02

    Biden’s age, media narratives, and competency testing for leaders

    1. TFTyler Fischer38:28

       Uh, watching Biden like ... when he freezes up now-

    2. JRJoe Rogan38:32

       Oh, yeah. It's crazy.

    3. TFTyler Fischer38:33

       ... I ... You think he's gone, man.

    4. JRJoe Rogan38:34

       Well, he's gonna go, but it's a- also he's freezing up medicated to the tits. Like, whatever they're doing to keep him alive, I.V., vitamin transfusions, and fucking hormones and amphetamines, whatever they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. Nootropics? I don't know what they're doing.

    5. TFTyler Fischer38:50

       He could be the first president to be assassinated by time.

    6. JRJoe Rogan38:53

       Yeah.

    7. TFTyler Fischer38:54

       I mean, that just-

    8. JRJoe Rogan38:55

       He's not gonna make it. I just can't believe they're running him. It doesn't even make sense. The more he flails about in these speeches, the more he fucks up. It more is li- ... almost like he feels like he's ... doesn't want to do it, so he's trying to get out of it.

    9. TFTyler Fischer39:08

       Are they saying this didn't happen?

    10. JRJoe Rogan39:10

        "This did not happen." "White House denies claims Biden froze at fundraiser event."

    11. TFTyler Fischer39:14

        They're calling them cheap fakes now.

    12. JRJoe Rogan39:17

        But wait a minute. There's a video-

    13. TFTyler Fischer39:18

        I know.

    14. JRJoe Rogan39:19

        ... of the show where ... Look, I don't think that's a big deal. The thing's over, he gets led off the stage. Like, who cares? That's nothing. Some of the other stuff, like ... What was that one where he was, like, yelling at people? Like, completely ...

    15. TFTyler Fischer39:34

        (yelling)

    16. JRJoe Rogan39:34

        Yeah. Just yelling with a big smile on his face.

    17. TFTyler Fischer39:36

        He always does that.

    18. JRJoe Rogan39:37

        Yeah, but this was a wild one. That's just him walking off with Joe Biden ... with, uh, Obama. Like, who cares? That doesn't-

    19. TFTyler Fischer39:44

        I think it was the, like ... He gave him the little pinch on the arm like you do to your grandma. He goes, "Betsy."

    20. JRJoe Rogan39:48

        No, he's looking at the crowd.

    21. TFTyler Fischer39:50

        "Let's go."

    22. JRJoe Rogan39:50

        He's just looking out at the crowd, which is odd, too. He doesn't wave.

    23. TFTyler Fischer39:53

        He, he does look frozen though.

    24. JRJoe Rogan39:54

        Yeah.

    25. TFTyler Fischer39:54

        Uh, yeah, he's frozen.

    26. JRJoe Rogan39:55

        Yeah, but whatever.

    27. TFTyler Fischer39:56

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan39:57

        That's the least of the things that have gone wrong.

    29. TFTyler Fischer40:00

        Sure.

    30. JRJoe Rogan40:00

        The thing of i- ... Have you seen the video of him yelling, Jamie? There's this crazy video. He's like, "Aah!" Like, he's not saying it-
11. 47:02 – 49:59

    Deep state, distraction politics, and surveillance anxiety in the AI era

    1. JRJoe Rogan47:02

       (sighs) I think they, that Xi Jinping knows those politicians don't really run jack shit. It's the, you know what Trump likes to call it. The deep state. The deep state real. It's real 'cause there's a bunch of people that run the government, the government.

    2. TFTyler Fischer47:15

       Who are they though?

    3. JRJoe Rogan47:17

       Well, there's a lot of money. There's heads of immense corporations that have incredible financial control and influence on politicians. This is the reason why lobbyists are some of the richest fucking people in the country. Like some of the richest real estate is in Virginia right outside of DC and it's l- a lot of it's lobbyists. The amount of money that they pour into campaigns and pour into making sure that their agendas are being met and that their businesses get to grow because of regulations or lack of regulations or tariffs or lack of tariffs or whatever the fuck they're trying to do, that's, that's who runs things really and makes decisions. And then the politicians keep us embattled in these social squabbles, you know? It's like when they have, when Kamala Harris had, uh, this, uh, guy in a dress with a beard come to the White House recently-

    4. TFTyler Fischer48:10

       Oh, God.

    5. JRJoe Rogan48:10

       ... and she's like, "Oh my god, for Pride Month."

    6. TFTyler Fischer48:11

       Oh, God.

    7. JRJoe Rogan48:12

       "Come on in. You're in the White House."

    8. TFTyler Fischer48:13

       (sighs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan48:13

       Like that is to accentuate this so- the social squabbling. It's so people get fired up, "Yay, queers are in the White House," and then other people go, "What the fuck are queers doing in the White House?" It's like that i- this is, uh, this is a part of the grand plan to keep people not paying attention to the really important issues and to just constantly, it's like these, these fucking beach balls they throw up at a concert.

    10. TFTyler Fischer48:45

        Yeah, yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan48:45

        They constantly get thrown up. There's, there's-

    12. TFTyler Fischer48:47

        It's working too. (laughs)

    13. JRJoe Rogan48:47

        ... gay marriage.

    14. TFTyler Fischer48:48

        Uh-oh.

    15. JRJoe Rogan48:48

        They're gonna take away gay marriage now. They're gonna take away abortion. They're gonna take away this. Guns, the border, and they just keep throwing these things in the air so you're just like looking left and right and looking left and right and while this is going on...There's all sorts of laws being passed that allow them to look at any computer, any laptop, any, any phone. You, they're gonna be able to bypass encryption with AI. I was just watching a video where a security expert was talking about that. He was talking about, uh, what's that guy's name? Rob Braxton. He was talking about, um, how AI in your operating system, like once they get AI in your operating system, all the stuff like Signal and WhatsApp, encrypted, end-to-end encrypted devices, that's nonsense. It's not gonna work anymore. It's not gonna do anything. They're, they're gonna be able to get your information before it's encrypted, as you're typing it, before you send it. Everything is going to be transparent. They'll have access to anything they want, anything you have on any device, it doesn't matter what kind of encryption or what kind of bullshit you're using. All that's out the window. And he was explaining that.

12. 49:59 – 1:22:42

    Neuralink and the shrinking space for ‘pure’ human experience—why comedy matters

    1. TFTyler Fischer49:59

       Fuck. What about, uh, Elon's Neuralink chip? Is that... Do you think people are gonna have those-

    2. JRJoe Rogan50:04

       Yeah.

    3. TFTyler Fischer50:05

       ... and they can just go open up... You know, they don't have to say it. It's, you just think it. "Open up Google." You know?

    4. JRJoe Rogan50:11

       That's gonna happen. There's gonna be versions of that and it's gonna get... We had, um... What's Nolan's last name?

    5. NANarrator50:16

       Arbach.

    6. JRJoe Rogan50:17

       Say it again.

    7. TFTyler Fischer50:18

       Arbach.

    8. JRJoe Rogan50:19

       Arba- You say it the right way? Arbach?

    9. TFTyler Fischer50:21

       Yeah. Bah, Bach. Arbach.

    10. JRJoe Rogan50:23

        Arbach. Um, he's the first Neuralink patient. We had him in, uh, the other day, and, uh, I think the episode comes out today.

    11. NANarrator50:31

        Yeah, it's out now. Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan50:32

        Yeah, it's out now. And yeah, he's the first guy-

    13. TFTyler Fischer50:33

        Oh my God.

    14. JRJoe Rogan50:34

        ... to get the Neuralink. And so, he was paralyzed-

    15. TFTyler Fischer50:35

        Does he s- sound like Elon? Like, oh, sure. So, it's working pretty well.

    16. JRJoe Rogan50:38

        No, it's very, very smart.

    17. TFTyler Fischer50:39

        Oh, yeah. Really very well.

    18. JRJoe Rogan50:40

        Very smart. Very interesting person to talk to. Completely paralyzed from the neck down, except for a few movements in his hands, and like, he can kind of move a little bit. His spinal cord's not totally severed, but it's very badly damaged from a-

    19. TFTyler Fischer50:53

        Fuck.

    20. JRJoe Rogan50:53

        ... an accident in the river. And, uh, now with, uh, this Neuralink, he can play video games. He can do all kinds of shit. And he said the cursor goes where his, his eyes go. The cursor goes like exactly where he wants it to go, so he's like, "I have a built-in aim bot if I'm playing video games, 'cause I can just f-... I don't miss." He's like, he's like, "I'm fucking... I look right at it-"

    21. TFTyler Fischer51:18

        Holy shit.

    22. JRJoe Rogan51:18

        "... and I could shoot at things," which is pretty wild and it makes you think like, okay, well, for soldiers, that's a must.

    23. TFTyler Fischer51:23

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan51:24

        You have to give them that. You know, and that's... You know, some of the fighter jets, the new helmets that they have on now are augmented reality helmets and when they're flying the jets, as they're looking at a specific spot, that's where the crosshairs go. So, the, the crosshairs are connected to this, uh, this AR-

    25. TFTyler Fischer51:44

        Are we gonna be doing that with jokes? Like you just like-

    26. JRJoe Rogan51:47

        Yeah.

    27. TFTyler Fischer51:47

        ... hit the punchline?

    28. JRJoe Rogan51:48

        I think comedy is probably gonna be one of the last places where the actual human experience exists in a pure form. You know, it's one, one of several reasons why, at the Mothership, we make people put their phones in their bag. Like, get that out of your head.

    29. TFTyler Fischer52:04

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan52:05

        Stop looking at that. Just sit down and watch a show.

Episode duration: 2:25:53