Joe Rogan Experience #2176 - Chad Daniels

Narrator 0:00 (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hello, Chad.

Chad Daniels 0:13 Hi.

Joe Rogan 0:13 What's happening, man?

Chad Daniels 0:14 Nothing much.

Joe Rogan 0:14 Nice to meet you in person.

Chad Daniels 0:15 Yeah, likewise.

Joe Rogan 0:16 Um, we were already chatting about how Google, uh, is totally listening to me.

Chad Daniels 0:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 0:22 Confirmed 100%. 'Cause your Google News feed is always, like, stuff that you're interested in-

Chad Daniels 0:28 Mm-hmm, yep.

Joe Rogan 0:28 ... pretty much. But I was having a conversation with my wife about purses, and she was explaining to me that certain purses, like, you can't just buy the purse. You have to develop a relationship with a store owner. I'm like, "What?"

Chad Daniels 0:39 I don't get that.

Joe Rogan 0:40 That's, uh-

Chad Daniels 0:40 You'd think if you're trying to sell stuff, you would wanna sell it right when they came in.

Joe Rogan 0:43 Exactly. I don't get it. But, like, there's a thing that certain, like, posh people really love, and it's exclusivity.

Chad Daniels 0:50 Sure.

Joe Rogan 0:51 They love it. "I'm the only one that can get this watch."

Chad Daniels 0:53 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 0:53 "I'm the only one that can get this fucking purse or whatever it is." So anyway, all of a sudden, Google starts showing me purse things.

Chad Daniels 1:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01 They start showing me all this stuff about purses. I didn't, I didn't look anything up about purses.

Chad Daniels 1:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07 I just had a conversation with the phone sitting at the dinner table. That's crazy.

Chad Daniels 1:11 Yeah, happens all the time. I mean-

Joe Rogan 1:12 It's weird, li-

Chad Daniels 1:12 ... it ends up in your feed, you're like, "Oh, my forearms are too small."

Joe Rogan 1:15 Ha.

Chad Daniels 1:15 Next thing you know, you got these flexi deals-

Joe Rogan 1:17 (laughs)

Narrator 1:17 (laughs)

Chad Daniels 1:17 ... and the gorilla grip deal thingy that spins around.

Joe Rogan 1:20 Yeah. There's no doubt it, it happens. There's n- 100% no doubt it happens, 'cause that, that is the only explanation for that showing up. 'Cause generally, it's always the same stuff, same kind of things that I'm interested in, stuff that I click on, UFOs, what-

Chad Daniels 1:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:34 ... MMA, you know-

Chad Daniels 1:35 Okay, okay.

Joe Rogan 1:35 ... some new car, something. It's like, it makes sense, and it shows up on my news. And I'm like, "Why are they showing me three different articles about purses? The fuck is going on?"

Chad Daniels 1:43 (laughs) Are you getting this too-

Joe Rogan 1:43 "You fucking creeps."

Chad Daniels 1:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:45 Ew. Ew.

Chad Daniels 1:47 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:48 Is that legal? How's that work? Do you have to sign off on that, on the app? Like, if you're using the Google News app, are you signing off on that?

Narrator 1:56 There are multiple ways that you may have opted into something that's allowing that to happen, yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:01 Jesus.

Chad Daniels 2:02 I haven't read any of those things.

Joe Rogan 2:04 Nobody reads those things.

Chad Daniels 2:04 Right. I scroll to the bottom, hit the thing.

Joe Rogan 2:06 If you read them, you're a psycho. If you're sitting there reading those things-

Chad Daniels 2:09 How long would it take you?

Joe Rogan 2:10 Forever.

Chad Daniels 2:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:11 Like, how big is the Apple one?

Chad Daniels 2:13 It's c- three-

Joe Rogan 2:14 How big is that one?

Chad Daniels 2:14 F- three full scrolls.

Joe Rogan 2:16 Yeah. Apple's pretty good about stuff. (smacks lips) I think they're probably the best about that, because they're the first company that actually stepped in and said, "We're gonna stop com- companies from being able to share your information." They're the, the first that did... What was, what exactly did they do, Jamie? They made some sort of a, a big deal. It was an advertising move, and a lot of people got pissed off at them for it.

Narrator 2:42 I- it might have been the, the ability to opt out. I think they might have given you the option to opt out on the settings of the iOS for the first time. I'll check, but I think it's something like that.

Joe Rogan 2:51 Mm, something like that. I think you're right. It's something like that, but a pu- bunch of people are like, "This is gonna affect our advertising." But yeah, y- you guys are stealing money. Stop doing that.

Chad Daniels 3:00 I spend my mornings going through my emails unsubscribing-

Joe Rogan 3:02 Oh, yeah.

Chad Daniels 3:03 ... to stuff.

Joe Rogan 3:04 Yeah.

Chad Daniels 3:04 It's just too much.

Joe Rogan 3:05 It's, there's companies, like there's... One of our ads is, uh... What, what, which one is that? That they'll go out and find the subscriptions? Which one is that? Jamie'll find it.

Chad Daniels 3:16 Oh, like they go, they go find it-

Joe Rogan 3:17 They'll do it for you.

Chad Daniels 3:17 ... and let you know what you're subscribed to?

Joe Rogan 3:19 Yeah, and you're like, "Oh, National Geographic still?" You know, whatever it is.

Chad Daniels 3:22 Oh.

Joe Rogan 3:22 Whatever.

Chad Daniels 3:22 Oh, God. I am leaking money.

Joe Rogan 3:25 I'm sure. A- apparently everybody is. It's just you get so accustomed to subscribing. Like, "Oh yeah, that'll be easy. I'll get the cereal every month." (laughs)

Chad Daniels 3:32 Uh, yeah, no, no shit. I'm five years into a lot of week-long subscriptions, free subscriptions.

Joe Rogan 3:37 Yeah. Well, that was how they used to get... Do you... How old are you?

Chad Daniels 3:40 49.

Joe Rogan 3:41 Okay, you might be old enough to remem- I'm 56. Do you remember those, uh, Columbia Record House deals?

Chad Daniels 3:46 Oh, hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:48 (laughs) Nobody paid for that. How did they make any money?

Chad Daniels 3:51 I, I still have collection coming in.

Joe Rogan 3:53 Everybody does. I feel like that was a way that they made artists seem more popular than they were. I think that was part of their deals. They could say they sold, uh, you know, millions and millions-

Chad Daniels 4:05 Sure.

Joe Rogan 4:05 ... of records. I also think it was probably a way that they could rip artists off, 'cause they could say, "We lost all this money on Columbia." Like, they could, like, factor it in.

Chad Daniels 4:15 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 4:16 You know, and say, "I know it seems like you sold a million copies, but actually 400,000 of them are Columbia."

Chad Daniels 4:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:23 And nobody's paid for them.

Chad Daniels 4:24 The MC Hammer clause.

Joe Rogan 4:26 Ri-... Is that what it was?

Chad Daniels 4:26 I don't know, but he's-

Joe Rogan 4:27 Oh.

Chad Daniels 4:27 ... that guy.

Joe Rogan 4:28 Did he, did that happen to him?

Chad Daniels 4:29 I, I know that his record deal screwed him over, had to file for bankruptcy, all that stuff.

Joe Rogan 4:34 Oh, yeah, that's right. He went full MC Hammer too. He went crazy. Like, he, he was, like, getting some house built. I remember it was, like, the most extravagant house.

Chad Daniels 4:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:43 He had, like, this super expensive marble that was being brought in and, you know, and then they just... I guess they pulled the rug out from under him.

Chad Daniels 4:51 Yeah, that's wild.

Joe Rogan 4:51 Those dirty bastards. I don't know this, the whole story behind the M- MC Hammer thing, but they, they for sure don't wanna pay you all that money. (laughs)

Chad Daniels 5:02 Oh, no way. If you look at, if you look at royalties for comics, it's .00, like 15 zeros and then one cent.

Joe Rogan 5:11 Oh yeah, you get nothing. For audio, for comedy audio-

Chad Daniels 5:14 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 5:14 ... you get nothing.

Chad Daniels 5:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:15 You get nothing. It's always been like that though. It's just, you know... Especially comedy albums, after, like, 1980, (laughs) who fucking bought comedy albums?

Chad Daniels 5:25 I mean, I, I don't know, but it's like... Plus the lawsuit. You know about the lawsuit?

Joe Rogan 5:29 Which one?

Chad Daniels 5:29 Where they, they had to take a bunch of people off of Pandora and Spotify and everything because of the, the lawsuit that they went... They were trying to get writer and performance credits.

Joe Rogan 5:41 Who was trying to get it?

Chad Daniels 5:42 Uh, just a, a company. It was, uh... I can't remember what it's called.

Joe Rogan 5:47 Jamie can find it.

Chad Daniels 5:48 Okay.

Joe Rogan 5:48 So, well, what else were you finding? (laughs)

Narrator 5:51 Experian was the company that does the subscriptions.

Joe Rogan 5:53 Okay, Experian.

Narrator 5:53 Very good.

Chad Daniels 5:53 That's a good company.

Joe Rogan 5:54 Yeah, so they'll find your subscriptions, and they'll yank them. So, what is the company that's doing this?

Chad Daniels 5:58 So, so you had all these royalties coming in, and then all of a sudden...... this, this comp- there was, like, uh, a bunch of estates, like the Robin Williams estate, I think maybe George Carlin, where they were like, "Hey, we, we should be getting more, more money for this." Because it's 50/50 split, but songwriters are getting a writer credit and a performance credit.

Joe Rogan 6:17 Right.

Chad Daniels 6:17 And so they wanted comics to do that, but that doesn't really make sense because comedians are, like, "I'm not using your bits, like-

Joe Rogan 6:26 Right.

Chad Daniels 6:26 ... and so you wouldn't get a writing credit for my performance."

Joe Rogan 6:28 Right.

Chad Daniels 6:29 So, it was strange. And so then Pandora was like, "Fuck this, we're pulling everything down," and pulled a bunch of guys off, including, including myself, but...

Joe Rogan 6:37 I still don't totally understand. So, who wanted the credit? Like, when they say writer and then performer credit, was that to the comics so the comics would get paid twice?

Chad Daniels 6:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:45 Okay. So instead of, like, an artist that didn't write their song, the comics were like, "No, we deserve to get paid twice 'cause we created the entire content."

Chad Daniels 6:52 Exactly. But-

Joe Rogan 6:53 And Pandora was like, "No, we can't do that?"

Chad Daniels 6:55 Right. Because the writers, I mean, like, when you're singing a song and someone else wrote it-

Joe Rogan 6:59 Right.

Chad Daniels 6:59 ... that makes sense.

Joe Rogan 7:00 Right, right, right.

Chad Daniels 7:00 But no one's doing anybody's bits.

Joe Rogan 7:02 Right. Right.

Chad Daniels 7:03 So, like, I can't sit up here and do a Hedberg bit.

Joe Rogan 7:06 And if you are, you probably bought them from them.

Chad Daniels 7:09 Right.

Joe Rogan 7:09 You know?

Chad Daniels 7:09 Yeah. So there was some sort of agreement.

Joe Rogan 7:11 Yeah.

Chad Daniels 7:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:12 I bought a, uh, a heckle line once from a buddy of mine (laughs) back in Boston. It's such a dumb line. Uh, Brian Fraser, the comedian. Uh, the joke was, it's a, this is, like, to someone in the audience that's heckling you, like, "This is my impression of God when he made you. 'Okay, just a dash of cunt. Oh, no, the cap fell off."

Chad Daniels 7:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:32 "'Too much cunt.'" (laughs)

Chad Daniels 7:35 How much did you pay for it?

Joe Rogan 7:37 I don't remember. I think it was $500.

Chad Daniels 7:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:41 I don't remember.

Chad Daniels 7:42 So it was in-

Joe Rogan 7:42 But it was such a great line.

Chad Daniels 7:43 So he can't use it.

Joe Rogan 7:43 I was like, "Dude, that's a hilarious line." He's like, "I'll never use it." I go, "Sell it to me, I'll fucking use it."

Chad Daniels 7:48 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:48 But, uh, you know, that was like a year into comedy. I was like f- you know, when you're a year into comedy, a-anything that works, it's like you have tools. You have just, like, a toolbox.

Chad Daniels 7:57 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:58 And anything that works. They're so precious.

Chad Daniels 7:59 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 7:59 And you're so scared to write new ones.

Chad Daniels 8:01 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 8:01 Ah! (laughs)

Chad Daniels 8:02 (laughs) Yeah. You're like, start to freak out and then you're like, "Oh, this come and go gas stiti- station bit always works."

Joe Rogan 8:08 Right.

Chad Daniels 8:08 You know? So you fall back on that.

Joe Rogan 8:10 Right. And i- even that sucks. You know, it's kinda like, the problem is like when you're starting out, you say things in a very specific way, and that might not be the best way to say that bit. But that's the way you're kinda stuck saying it.

Chad Daniels 8:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:23 That is a problem with bits. Like sometimes when you cre- even today, like I'll create a n- I'm working on a new one, and I'm like, "I don't know about this." I feel like there's another way to say this, and I'm just banking on the way that I've been saying it over and over-

Chad Daniels 8:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 8:36 ... and over again, and maybe I should just abandon it and let it sit there for m- a bit and come back to it.

Chad Daniels 8:40 Someti- I, so I didn't work summers for a long time. I have two kids, and when I was, you know, when they were in high school, I'd always be home during the summer. And I found that in September I would always be able to fix bits a little bit better-

Joe Rogan 8:53 Mm.

Chad Daniels 8:53 ... because I'd let them sit. I f- almost forgot about them. You know how it starts?

Joe Rogan 8:57 Right.

Chad Daniels 8:57 And then your brain is like, "I have to get to this point, but I can't remember how I got there."

Joe Rogan 9:01 Right.

Chad Daniels 9:01 And so then you start to put it together a little differently.

Joe Rogan 9:04 And they're probably working in the back of your head subconsciously too, because even though you're not doing comedy for three months, you're still probably thinking, "In three months I'm gonna do comedy."

Chad Daniels 9:12 Yeah, I think so, 'cause-

Joe Rogan 9:13 Yeah.

Chad Daniels 9:13 ... yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:14 So it's probably, like, working in the background.

Chad Daniels 9:15 Most likely.

Joe Rogan 9:16 F- yeah, for sure. That, I mean, that's what they say sleeping on it is all about. (clears throat) Like-

Chad Daniels 9:20 Yeah, like if you're, the piano piece, if you can't figure it out, you play it-

Joe Rogan 9:23 Mm-hmm.

Chad Daniels 9:23 ... before you go to bed a bunch of times, and then all of a sudden the next morning you wake up and you're like, "Fiddly dee."

Joe Rogan 9:27 There's been a few times where I woke up in the middle of the night to pee and I realize how to fix a joke.

Chad Daniels 9:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:33 Yeah. Just, like, all of a sudden you're like, "Oh, that's it! That's it." It just needed one more little ingredient.

Chad Daniels 9:39 It is a fun eureka moment when you fix a bit.

Joe Rogan 9:42 (laughs) Dude, what is it? What, where's it coming from?

Chad Daniels 9:44 Like, where's it co- where's the joy coming from?

Joe Rogan 9:46 What, no, where's the, where's the ideas coming from? Where the fuck are they coming from?

Chad Daniels 9:49 I think they do sit. I think there's a part back there that's just constantly going and we don't hear about it, and then when it's done they're like, "Get it to the fucking front."

Joe Rogan 9:57 Yeah. But, uh, it, but the e- even the creation of an idea is so mysterious. I mean, that's why people invoke the concept of the muse. You know, that's the, Steven Pressfield, he, like, swears by it. The, The War of Art books are all about the muse, about summoning the muse when you write. There's someth- there's something weird going on, I'll tell you that, because it seems like they just, like, enter into your head like a photon, like some shit from space-

Chad Daniels 10:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:20 ... just doot, all the sudden it's in there and like, "Oh, that was an idea." And even though you, it's your idea, like I, I take credit for writing, like I'll take credit for fixing jokes.

Chad Daniels 10:30 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 10:30 I'll take credit for, like, going up, but I always feel like I can't really take credit for the original idea. The original idea is almost like this little gift.

Chad Daniels 10:38 Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 10:39 You know?

Chad Daniels 10:40 Like you see something-

Joe Rogan 10:41 Mm-hmm.

Chad Daniels 10:41 ... or somebody's doing something and you go, "Oh, shit," and that sparks something and you just go-

Joe Rogan 10:44 Yeah.

Chad Daniels 10:45 ... "All right, I gotta write this down."

Joe Rogan 10:46 Sometimes you just say it outta nowhere. You just say it. Like, you don't even know why you're saying it, you're just saying it.

Chad Daniels 10:52 Yep.

Joe Rogan 10:53 It, and it's like you didn't even think that much, it just came out.

Chad Daniels 10:58 Yeah, there's times where y- on stage where you're just all the sudden riffing a bit and you hit them with something and they start clapping и you're like, "Oh, goddamn, thank God I'm recording this."

Joe Rogan 11:06 Oh yeah, sometimes. Sometimes that's the best part of the bit and you're like, "What the fuck is going on?" Like, "How is that the best part of the bit?"

Chad Daniels 11:12 It feels, it's almost like you're playing chess in your head-

Joe Rogan 11:14 Mm-hmm.

Chad Daniels 11:15 ... and you are seven steps ahead but you don't even know it.

Joe Rogan 11:17 Right. It's a weird fucking art form. Weird art form. It's one of the only art forms where almost everybody writes their own stuff.

Chad Daniels 11:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:25 Like if you think about musicians, there's a lot of musicians who write their own music and they're kinda revered, right? Whereas musicians, when you go to see a musician, like a singer-songwriter and they write their own stuff and you s- you sit there and you're like, "Wow, this person crafted this in their mind and practiced it alone," and you know, there's something, like, magical about that. But you can go see, like, a really talented singer that has writers that write for them.

Chad Daniels 11:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:49 And they're great too, but you don't feel the same, you know?

Chad Daniels 11:52 No, 'cause you feel like you're, you're good at playing the guitar, you have a great voice, you're good at making someone else's work. Like I used to audition for stuff. I am fucking toilet at auditioning.

Joe Rogan 12:02 (laughs)

Chad Daniels 12:03 It's the truth. I go in there and it's somebody else's words and I'm just every, you can hear the people in front of you, they're getting huge laughs. I go in there, nothing.

Joe Rogan 12:10 Yeah.

Chad Daniels 12:10 I don't, I don't know. I, I don't think I'd be a good singer of someone else's song. I think I'd have to write it.

Joe Rogan 12:16 I, um, never wanted to be an actor. I had zero acting...... w- no wishes, no dreams, no aspirations, zero. Uh, just wanted to be a comic. And then I got a development deal from doing MTV.

Chad Daniels 12:28 Okay.

Joe Rogan 12:29 And then, uh, because of this development deal, I wound up being on a sitcom. So I went... And my point is, I did two auditions ever.

Chad Daniels 12:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:36 One was for a show called Hardball. I got that show, and that show got canceled. And then another one was for a show called News Radio, and I got that show.

Chad Daniels 12:43 Mm-hmm, yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:44 And those were the only two that I had ever done.

Chad Daniels 12:46 Ah, good for you.

Joe Rogan 12:46 It was the nuttiest thing of all time. People would get so mad at me. I'm like, "Look, I just stepped in shit. I got super lucky."

Chad Daniels 12:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:53 Like, they were looking for a cocky baseball player for this show on Fox. And I went in, and they met me, and they're like, "Oh, this is the guy."

Chad Daniels 13:01 That's great.

Joe Rogan 13:02 And, and then I did this show where I played a, uh, uh, mentally-challenged conspiracy theorist-

Chad Daniels 13:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:09 ... (laughs) maintenance guy at a radio station. That was perfect too.

Chad Daniels 13:13 (laughs) Yeah, I was like, "I got these." They always sent me in for these auditions where it was like, I'd, I was 30-something years old, and it would be "22 good-looking."

Joe Rogan 13:23 (laughs)

Chad Daniels 13:23 And you're like, "What the fuck am I doing here?" I went in one time, and it was like, a Abercrombie & Fitch shoot.

Joe Rogan 13:27 Oh, God.

Chad Daniels 13:28 And so I go in, and I'm looking around. Everyone's a foot taller than me, chiseled jawline. I'm like, "This..."

Joe Rogan 13:33 That's just agents will throw anything at the wall.

Chad Daniels 13:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:36 I went in, and b- I l- I definitely did a bunch of auditions after those shows that I didn't wind up getting, like, for movies and stuff like that.

Chad Daniels 13:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:43 They're all so weird. You're in a room with someone, and then, you know, you have to improvise sometimes. They ask you to improvise. Like, look, this is ne-... One time, I, I went in for the reading, and the, the PA was this kid. It's not the kid's fault, you know, he's... But he's reading the script. He's terrible. And you're supposed to be reacting.

Chad Daniels 14:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:02 And he's barely getting the sentence right.

Chad Daniels 14:05 Right.

Joe Rogan 14:05 And then you're supposed to have this realistic reaction to this.

Chad Daniels 14:08 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:09 You know? And then they were like, "You know, I want you..." This is what the guy said. He goes, "I want you to get... You're very excited. Your friend is getting married. You're very excited. I want you to write down on a piece of paper, you know, 'Get married.' You're trying to talk him into getting married." And I'm going, "You w-... So you want me to do this with this guy?"

Chad Daniels 14:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:27 I go, "Look, if you wanna bring in an actor, and me and an actor can fuck around," I go, d-... I go, "He's barely getting through these conversa-... This is silly." Then I was like, "I don't wanna be an actor." I'm like, I, I've realized, like, "Why am I even here?"

Chad Daniels 14:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:39 Like, "I don't wanna do this."

Chad Daniels 14:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:39 "Let me get the fuck outta here." (laughs)

Chad Daniels 14:40 Nowhere in real life... Yeah, nowhere in real life would somebody go, "I'm thinking about getting married," and your response is, "You gotta get married!"

Joe Rogan 14:47 Yeah.

Chad Daniels 14:47 I mean, it's crazy.

Joe Rogan 14:48 Yeah. It was a dumb script. The movie was terrible. But a friend of mine was in it, and I was like, "Ah, it'll be fun to do a movie with him." And then... But going on the audition, I'm like, "What am I doing?" It was just one of those movies where it's just... It was written for fake people. It was written in some weird way for people that don't exist.

Chad Daniels 15:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:06 I was like, "You're trying so hard to make people talk and think this way. These aren't real people."

Chad Daniels 15:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:12 "This is bu- bizarre." Like, every person in this movie is totally disingenuous. Like, every word that you wrote for them-

Chad Daniels 15:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:20 ... is not like anything people ever say.

Chad Daniels 15:22 (laughing) Right.

Joe Rogan 15:23 This s- movie sucks. It fucking sucks. And it looks like you wrote it on Adderall-

Chad Daniels 15:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:28 ... and y- you're just trying to make some money. And that... Why am I here, you know? (laughs)

Chad Daniels 15:31 Yeah. Have you seen the show Suits?

Joe Rogan 15:33 I have not.

Chad Daniels 15:33 Okay, so they say... They have this really weird cadence where, uh, they'll say, "And I'm not gonna goddamn do it." They use goddamn (thudding sound) in front of stuff. And it's... But it's every character.

Joe Rogan 15:43 Oh, God.

Chad Daniels 15:43 And so you're like, "How did all these people meet that use goddamn or something?"

Joe Rogan 15:47 Is it from the '20s or something?

Chad Daniels 15:47 Uh, no, it's, it's like...

Joe Rogan 15:48 It's current?

Chad Daniels 15:49 Yeah, it's-

Joe Rogan 15:49 Oh, that's where they're doing it.

Chad Daniels 15:49 I think it's still on. I think it just had a, a thing come on it.

Joe Rogan 15:52 Oh, that's bad writing.

Chad Daniels 15:53 That was-

Joe Rogan 15:53 Or a bunch of people that are, like, really im- easily influenced, you know?

Chad Daniels 15:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:57 That's like, that's where accents come from, like one fucking dude probably talked a certain way and everybody's like-

Chad Daniels 16:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:01 ... "That guy sounds cool." (laughs)

Chad Daniels 16:03 I was-

Joe Rogan 16:03 "I talk like this too."

Chad Daniels 16:04 I was rea-... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:06 (laughs)

Chad Daniels 16:06 I was reading that some people have a thing in their head where, when they're talking to someone with an accent, to make that person feel more comfortable, they start to speak in the accent without even knowing it.

Joe Rogan 16:16 Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I mean, when I was a kid, um, I would switch accents, like, when I moved to new places. Like, I realized I, I only lived in Boston for, like, six years, and I was 19, and I was on television for this thing that I did. And I heard myself on TV, and I was like, "Ew."

Chad Daniels 16:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:36 "Ew." I had no idea my accent was so strong. I was like, "Yuck."

Chad Daniels 16:40 Oh, Boston accent?

Joe Rogan 16:41 Yeah, it was terrible.

Chad Daniels 16:41 Oh, interesting.

Joe Rogan 16:42 So it's like, killed it, for the most part, until I get a couple of drinks in me. (laughs)

Chad Daniels 16:46 Yeah, that's the same with me. You put whiskey in me, and I get a little Canadian.

Joe Rogan 16:49 Yeah. Yeah, especially if I'm around my friends from Boston, where I'll talking shit to each other.

Chad Daniels 16:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:53 "Those guys talk shit."

Chad Daniels 16:54 "Yeah, you fucking cocksucker."

Joe Rogan 16:56 Yeah. The best place to do standup, because to develop there, like, you're, you are... that treadmill is going. You gotta hop on.

Chad Daniels 17:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:03 You gotta move, get moving. Everybody's moving. Nobody in the audience has any attention span. They don't wanna hear you dilly-dally-

Chad Daniels 17:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:11 ... and pontificate up there. They want fucking jokes.

Chad Daniels 17:15 (laughs) Yeah, "Hammer me. I gotta go to work tomorrow."

Joe Rogan 17:16 Yeah, they're all tired.

Chad Daniels 17:17 Oh, I love doing comedy in Boston.

Joe Rogan 17:19 Yeah. Blue collar, it's a great-

Chad Daniels 17:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:20 It's a great... It's not even bl- necessarily blue collar, because there's a lot of, like, white-collar people that come to the shows too. It's just, like, work ethic. There's a... When you have to shovel your car outta snow every fucking year-

Chad Daniels 17:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:30 ... you have work ethic.

Chad Daniels 17:31 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:31 You can't get up at 8:00 to be at work at 9:00.

Chad Daniels 17:34 Uh-huh?

Joe Rogan 17:34 No, you have to get up at 7:00, 'cause you got an hour of shoveling to do.

Chad Daniels 17:38 Yeah, defrost the windshield.

Joe Rogan 17:40 Yeah, you gotta do all that shit. You gotta start the car up, let it run, heat the inside to defrost the windshield, get the fucking scraper. "Ah, ah, ah."

Chad Daniels 17:48 Yes.

Joe Rogan 17:48 And then you're out there on a fucking skating rink. Your street's a skating rink.

Chad Daniels 17:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:53 So you have to drive five miles an hour-

Chad Daniels 17:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:54 ... and you have to make sure that you hit the brakes before, way before the car in front of you, or you're gonna cause a pileup.

Chad Daniels 17:59 Ah.

Joe Rogan 18:00 I saw so many pileups, man.

Chad Daniels 18:02 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 18:02 Whew, Goddamn.

Chad Daniels 18:03 I grew up in Minnesota. I lived in Minnesota my whole life.

Joe Rogan 18:05 Oh, my God. So you've seen it.

Chad Daniels 18:06 And it's, it's just nonstop.

Joe Rogan 18:07 I think Minnesota's the number one state where people die in deer accidents. Is that, is it the number one-

Chad Daniels 18:13 Oh, like getting, getting shot, you mean?

Joe Rogan 18:14 Yeah. No, no, no. Uh, deer on the road.

Chad Daniels 18:17 Oh, God... Yeah, I would think that.

Joe Rogan 18:18 Car accidents.

Chad Daniels 18:18 I would think that.

Joe Rogan 18:19 It's either Michigan or Minnesota. I forget which one.... but, but those c- places, you grow up in a place like that, man, you develop some resilience.

Chad Daniels 18:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:28 Those are different human beings.

Chad Daniels 18:29 Yup.

Joe Rogan 18:30 You grow up in fucking Florida, the only thing you have to worry about the sky becomes an angry god every couple of years.

Chad Daniels 18:35 Yeah. (laughs) I remember, uh, uh-

Joe Rogan 18:37 Pennsylvania.

Chad Daniels 18:37 Oh.

Joe Rogan 18:38 Oh, wow.

Chad Daniels 18:39 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 18:39 Damn. 1 in 38 chance of hitting an animal. So, you drive-

Chad Daniels 18:44 West Virginia.

Joe Rogan 18:44 ... for two months, you're gonna hit one, in West Virginia. Uh, West Virginia. Pennsylvania's one in 59. That's still high. That, but 1 in 38 is crazy.

Chad Daniels 18:56 (laughs) Yeah, that's wild.

Joe Rogan 18:57 One in 38 means every month you're hitting a fucking deer. (laughs)

Chad Daniels 19:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:00 That is so crazy. That is so crazy. It doesn't mean that. It means, overall the time of your life.

Chad Daniels 19:08 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 19:08 One in 38. But that's a lot.

Chad Daniels 19:11 I've never hit a deer. It's probably stupid to put out into the universe-

Joe Rogan 19:14 Yeah.

Chad Daniels 19:14 ... but I've never hit one.

Joe Rogan 19:15 I've never hit one either. I did hit a squirrel once. I felt so bad. Little guy was moving left and juking left and right, not sure.

Chad Daniels 19:22 That's what they do.

Joe Rogan 19:23 And I'm like, "Come on, fucker, don't do this. Don't do this." And he did it.

Chad Daniels 19:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:26 And I felt the thump. I'm like, "Oh, no."

Chad Daniels 19:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:28 And I look back and I see his little legs kicking. (sighs) But you know what? Vultures have to eat too.

Chad Daniels 19:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:36 That's what, that's what that's all about, you know?

Chad Daniels 19:38 Oh, absolutely.

Joe Rogan 19:39 It's a weird thing too, when you see a dead animal and you're like, "Aww." And then you come back, like, 20 minutes later and you see these monsters hovering over it, devouring it.

Chad Daniels 19:47 Just gone.

Joe Rogan 19:48 They're so gross.

Chad Daniels 19:50 Pulling everything out.

Joe Rogan 19:51 Oh. Have you ever seen a Tibetan sky funeral?

Chad Daniels 19:54 Uh-uh.

Joe Rogan 19:55 Bro. In Tibet, I don't know which religion, I don't know what, what they're practicing, but, um, they have this ritual called the Tibetan sky funeral. And instead of burying people, what they do is they chop them up and they feed them to vultures.

Chad Daniels 20:09 What the fuck?

Joe Rogan 20:10 Yeah, and there's graphic video of this online, 'cause it's, like, this big ritual. So, there's graphic video of these dudes with these, like, giant cutting boards and fucking cleavers hacking up people. And there's a swarm of vultures all around them.

Chad Daniels 20:27 Oh, god.

Joe Rogan 20:27 So, they're hacking up body parts. And then these vultures are just devouring these human beings. And we think it's gross, right? But isn't it grosser that you waste the body?

Chad Daniels 20:40 Dump it? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:40 What is this, Jamie?

Narrator 20:41 A video of ...

Joe Rogan 20:42 Oh, it's a video of it. That guy looked a little too cute to be there. I was like, "What are you doing there, fella?" I thought it was a movie.

Chad Daniels 20:47 (laughs) No.

Joe Rogan 20:47 So, look at these. Look at all these vultures.

Chad Daniels 20:49 Jesus. This is like when pelicans follow a fishing boat.

Joe Rogan 20:51 Oh, they 100% know what's going on, 'cause they've been doing it all the time.

Narrator 20:57 This is a tourist attraction in some part of China.

Joe Rogan 21:01 Jesus Christ. Ugh.

Chad Daniels 21:05 I'm not doing this.

Joe Rogan 21:05 Tourist attraction.

Chad Daniels 21:06 Oh, there they go.

Joe Rogan 21:07 Oh, so then they're gonna show you hacking the guy up.

Chad Daniels 21:08 Forget it.

Joe Rogan 21:09 But there's, uh, there's plenty of other videos that are more documentary style, that show, like, very graphic images of this, uh, this person just hacking apart this body.

Chad Daniels 21:21 How big? How big do they cut the pieces?

Joe Rogan 21:23 Just, like, chunks.

Chad Daniels 21:24 Okay.

Joe Rogan 21:24 And the vultures, they're all, you saw how they are. They're like piranha.

Chad Daniels 21:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:27 They're all just on it.

Chad Daniels 21:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:28 And they just devour everything. They devour the bones, they devour everything. Isn't that better? Though, I mean, look, nobody wants their loved one to be reduced to meat, you know? But is it better that you're taking your loved one and you're pumping them filled with some toxic chemical-

Chad Daniels 21:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:43 ... that makes it so that they'll never, never rot?

Chad Daniels 21:47 Right.

Joe Rogan 21:47 You can exhume them years later and find fentanyl traces and shit? Like, uh...

Chad Daniels 21:51 If you believe, if you believe, like, in something else, like something's going on afterlife-wise.

Joe Rogan 21:56 Right.

Chad Daniels 21:56 I mean, the soul's gone anyways.

Joe Rogan 21:57 Right.

Chad Daniels 21:58 It's the, it's the vessel that you're putting in the ground or letting vultures eat.

Joe Rogan 22:01 And if you believe that this person was murdered, like, do a better job now.

Chad Daniels 22:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:05 Like, how much time do you need? (laughs) You know, do it and film it and get, get all your... I guess maybe, like that... Remember that HBO show, Autopsy? Did you ever remember that show?

Chad Daniels 22:16 Uh-uh.

Joe Rogan 22:16 It was a great show about this guy, Dr. Michael Baden. And Dr. Michael Baden would always catch, like, husbands that poisoned their wives secretly, or wives that had poisoned all their husbands, and people that had killed people, like, in secret, sneaky ways and gotten away with it. And then he gets on the case, and he finds these, like, really crazy, crazy examples. One of them was this one guy, (clears throat) and after his wife had died, I don't even know if it was his wife. It was maybe his girlfriend. But he, uh, he's, he, he kept buying cases of perfume, and no one could figure out why this guy was doing this. But he left his wife in the bed and never reported that she was dead, and kept fucking her, and put, like, a mask on her.

Chad Daniels 22:59 Gross.

Joe Rogan 22:59 And then eventually, he put, like, some artificial vagina down there. And the perfume, he was pouring perfume on her to mask the decay.

Chad Daniels 23:09 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 23:09 And so eventually, finally, they caught him, but they got these images of what used to be his wife with, like, a mask on the face, and the, the, there was clothes on what's left of this body. And then there's this, like, tube where the vagina is.

Chad Daniels 23:24 Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 23:24 And this fucking psycho was banging her corpse and, like, passing out from the smell.

Chad Daniels 23:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:31 And just cases of perfume. This dude was just pouring perfume all over her corpse.

Chad Daniels 23:36 I feel like I could solve that crime.

Joe Rogan 23:37 You have to be in the room. I mean, you have to be, like, in the neighborhood or something. You have to s-... Have you ever smelled a body?

Chad Daniels 23:42 Uh-uh.

Joe Rogan 23:43 When I was a kid, um, the apartment that we lived in in New Jersey, this, this guy died on the, one of the floors, and the smell is insane. It's so specific. It's so different. A rotting human body apparently has a very unique odor. And, like, the, the coroners and the guys they called in, like, when there's a smell, they know what it is right away. They go, "That's a person."

Chad Daniels 24:07 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 24:07 This is, it's, uh, different than a dog.

Chad Daniels 24:09 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 24:10 Yeah.

Chad Daniels 24:10 'Cause I was gonna say, mice die in my garage and I can't go in there for two days.

Joe Rogan 24:14 Yeah.

Chad Daniels 24:14 I mean, it sucks. So, a person's got to be-

Joe Rogan 24:15 Oh, my God, it's, it was horrible. It's... The whole hallway. You couldn't specify, like, where it was coming from. It was like a skunk.... you know, it was everywhere.

Chad Daniels 24:24 Damn.

Joe Rogan 24:24 The whole hallway just reeked of this, like... It was just, like, the universe letting you know, "Get outta there."

Chad Daniels 24:31 (laughs) "Get outta New Jersey, man."

Joe Rogan 24:33 "Get the fuck ou- It's giving you this smell." N- not just New Jersey, I mean that hallway.

Chad Daniels 24:37 Sure.

Joe Rogan 24:37 It was, it's giving you this, this smell of death. It's a very specific smell. It was-

Chad Daniels 24:41 Do you know how the guy died?

Joe Rogan 24:42 I don't remember. I was a little kid.

Chad Daniels 24:43 Oh.

Joe Rogan 24:44 I think I was five at the time. But I just, I'll never forget that smell. It's like, "Whoa." 'Cause he was in there for a while, you know?

Chad Daniels 24:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:51 He was some, some loner.

Chad Daniels 24:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:53 And he just fucking, one day, kicked the bucket. It took a while for anybody to figure it out, and they figured it out because of the smell.

Chad Daniels 24:59 And then how long did it take them to get him outta there?

Joe Rogan 25:01 I don't remember. I was too little.

Chad Daniels 25:03 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 25:03 I don't remember. But it was a very, very specific smell. It was gross. But it- it is weird what we do. It's weird that... Joey Diaz was trying to lay this out to me. He's like, "Joe Rogan, it's a fucking scam. This is the scam. Even if you wanna get cremated, they gotta embalm you first. They gotta embalm you first. Then you're gonna buy a urn. You gotta bu-... They got you. They got you for 10, 14, 15 grand every time. They're gonna tell you your grandfather wants a beautiful coffin. He's fucking dead. What are we doing?" It's like, this weird thing that everybody does, where you have to get your, your person embalmed, and then you get 'em made up-

Chad Daniels 25:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:39 ... which is the creepiest.

Chad Daniels 25:41 My, my daughter has a friend who, her boyfriend's sister died, and they, she's getting into makeup and hair for a living, and they asked her to do the makeup and hair of the dead sister.

Joe Rogan 25:52 Oh, my God.

Chad Daniels 25:53 Why the fuck would you... Like, someone has to sign up for that.

Joe Rogan 25:56 Yeah, that has to be your very specific job. That's not regular makeup.

Chad Daniels 26:00 Yeah, it's not like you go into, uh, you know, like, a- a Great Clips or something and ask somebody like, "Hey, my grandpa died. Can you come help?"

Joe Rogan 26:07 Bro, that might haunt you for the rest of your life, especially if you know there's no way.

Chad Daniels 26:10 As a person? Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 26:11 Ugh.

Chad Daniels 26:12 I'd like a Viking funeral.

Joe Rogan 26:13 Ugh, Viking funeral's dope. But a Viking funeral, again, you're kinda wasting the body. If you just put it in the ground, that's what it's supposed to You're supposed to go back to nature. I guess, a Viking funeral, eventually you get back into the system.

Chad Daniels 26:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:26 You're just taking the long road.

Chad Daniels 26:27 Yeah, yeah. That's-

Joe Rogan 26:27 You turn back into carbon again. (laughs)

Chad Daniels 26:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:29 This is, this is gonna take so much time. But you're going right into microbes. And essentially, what's inside of you starts eating you first, if I'm not mistaken. I think all the bacteria in your body start, you start breaking down from that stuff. I think a lot of weird things happen. But then the stuff on the outside figures out you're dead, and then the soil starts devouring you.

Chad Daniels 26:49 Going for it. Have you seen the people that get put into trees?

Joe Rogan 26:52 Yeah. Yeah.

Chad Daniels 26:53 That's wild.

Joe Rogan 26:54 That makes sense, makes sense.

Chad Daniels 26:56 Or like a diamond?

Joe Rogan 26:57 Yeah.

Chad Daniels 26:57 They get pressed down.

Joe Rogan 26:58 But trees definitely live well off of, uh, fertilizer-

Chad Daniels 27:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 27:02 ... that comes from dead animals. Yeah, they, they eat, they eat what's there. They take it in, suck it up, which is what fertilizer is.

Chad Daniels 27:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:09 Which is why our food sucks, 'cause we give them fake food. We feed, we basically feed our processed food processed food. Right?

Chad Daniels 27:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:18 'Cause nitrogen is what we, you know, we take nitrogen and a bunch of other bullshit chemicals, and we pour it on this dead topsoil so that these poor corn can survive, and then we eat the corn, and there's, like, no nourishment. And they're like, "What are we doing?"

Chad Daniels 27:32 Yeah. I remember, like, in third grade, they taught us about crop rotation. And you're driving by these fields, and you're like, "This has been fucking corn since I was in third grade."

Joe Rogan 27:39 There's no way you can rotate.

Chad Daniels 27:40 There's no- Uh-uh.

Joe Rogan 27:41 Yeah. That's what they're all doing in the regenerative farms. Regenerative farms, they move everything around. That's how you're supposed to do it. It's how everyone's done it, from the beginning of time. What is that? Mushrooms that eat your body?

Chad Daniels 27:53 Whoa.

Narrator 27:53 It's a suit you wear-

Joe Rogan 27:55 (laughs)

Narrator 27:55 ... to get buried, and then you turn into mushrooms.

Joe Rogan 27:57 But they're gonna embalm you, man. Unless you live in a place that lets you opt out of that. Unless this is for another country.

Chad Daniels 28:05 Okay.

Joe Rogan 28:06 What, what are the laws in America? Let's find out what the laws are. When you die, do they have to embalm you? 'Cause this is what Joey was saying. But that might've been very specific. It might be regional, you know? It might be, like, certain cities.

Chad Daniels 28:18 Do they embalm you before you go into a cooker?

Joe Rogan 28:21 Yeah, that's what he was saying.

Chad Daniels 28:22 Oh, I didn't know that. I thought you just went in.

Narrator 28:24 So it's not required by law?

Joe Rogan 28:25 Not required, but they probably talk you into it then. That is, that's probably what it is.

Narrator 28:28 It says, in fact, that FTC funeral law forbids any funeral home from stating the contrary.

Joe Rogan 28:34 Interesting. That's because they've done it. (laughs)

Chad Daniels 28:36 Oh, absolutely. All they're trying to do is shame you, make you feel bad.

Narrator 28:39 Yeah. Listen, you have to embalm them before you cremate them.

Chad Daniels 28:43 Your grandfather came in here earlier and told us he wanted to be embalmed.

Joe Rogan 28:46 Is it necessary? According to federal law, it's forbidden to declare that embalming can be... Can entirely stop the process of decomposition. Oh, but that's different.

Narrator 28:55 Well, that's probably why, I guess, though.

Joe Rogan 28:56 Right.

Narrator 28:57 People care.

Joe Rogan 28:57 It's entirely forbidden to declare that a balm... But is it, but is it, is it mandatory? Is embalm p- Do that.

Narrator 29:05 I don't know why I asked. It was just-

Joe Rogan 29:05 Is embalming mandatory?

Narrator 29:06 ... I was giving more context.

Joe Rogan 29:07 It's not required by federal law in the United States, and no funeral homes can claim that it is. That's interesting.

Narrator 29:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 29:13 However, there are some circumstances where embalming may be required. State law, okay, some states require embalming if the body's not refrigerated or is held in transit for more than 24 hours. Other states require embalming if the death was caused by a contagious disease or if the remains are being transported between states. So funeral homes will require embalming if the family chooses a service with a v- Okay, that's probably... Visitation, open casket. That makes sense. Cemeteries may require embalming if the remains are to be entombed in a mausoleum. Ew.

Chad Daniels 29:45 Yeah, that's a lot.

Joe Rogan 29:46 Embalming can help their fr- m- l- loved ones, see their loved ones for the last time. You know what? I have only been to one funeral where I saw one of my loved ones. It was my grandfather. And I was like, "He is not there." Like, whatever they left there, that is just not, that's not my grandpa.

Chad Daniels 30:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:01 He's gone.

Chad Daniels 30:01 Yeah, when they go, "Oh, he looks so natural." "Well, he wasn't-"

Joe Rogan 30:04 Fuck.

Chad Daniels 30:04 "... fucking orange when I knew him."

Joe Rogan 30:05 Fuck no.

Chad Daniels 30:06 Uh-uh.

Joe Rogan 30:06 No, he does not look natural. He looks weird.

Chad Daniels 30:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:10 There's, like, a part of you that knows that whatever a person is in their soul, whatever a soul is, it's off.

Chad Daniels 30:16 Yeah, that's gone.

Joe Rogan 30:17 It's off.

Chad Daniels 30:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:17 Yeah, it's gone. And it's weird. It's a weird feeling that you get when you're around a dead body. It's like, mm.

Chad Daniels 30:22 Especially one that you knew so well.

Joe Rogan 30:24 Oh, yeah.... it's a wake up call, you know, because you just realize like, "Oh my God." Like, this is, this happens, this comes for everyone. One day, everyone in your life-

Chad Daniels 30:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:34 ... is gonna go like that.

Chad Daniels 30:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:35 And if you're lucky, you're gonna see it. Is that what the luck is? You know, if you live long enough.

Chad Daniels 30:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:40 I was, um, switching phone numbers the other day. And I was going over my phone, my, uh, my contact list and there's so many people in there that are dead. I, I kept pulling out people that were dead. I was like, "Oh, he's gone. Oh, he's gone."

Chad Daniels 30:53 Goddamn.

Joe Rogan 30:53 It was crazy.

Chad Daniels 30:54 How long, how long has it been since you switched last time?

Joe Rogan 30:56 Well, it's just... I got a bunch of old numbers, you know, from dudes that I haven't talked to in forever that, you know, you just-

Chad Daniels 31:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:02 ... when you have an, an iPhone you just keep getting a new number-

Chad Daniels 31:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:05 ... and you just, somehow or another all the numbers come with you.

Chad Daniels 31:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:08 There's so many of my friends that are dead. It's so, so sobering, you know, when you just start counting the numbers. Like, "Oh, fuck, Norm MacDonald. Oh, fuck." You know, and you just go through all of it.

Chad Daniels 31:19 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 31:19 And you're like, "Fuck. Fuck, he's gone too." You know?

Chad Daniels 31:23 Yeah. I'm, I'm getting to the age where I'm, that's about to start happening I think.

Joe Rogan 31:27 It happens, you know. And sometimes it happens and you do not see it coming and it hits you like a train. Especially when they take their own life. You're like, "What?"

Chad Daniels 31:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:36 "Jesus Christ." And then there's always that guilt of like, "Fuck, maybe if I talked to them. Maybe if I had one conversation." Or, maybe that's just your ego.

Chad Daniels 31:48 Yeah, 'cause I don't... I think once you're over that line, I don't think there's a lot of pulling it back.

Joe Rogan 31:54 Perhaps, but I think every circumstance is different.

Chad Daniels 31:58 Yeah, I guess there's that one dude that used to live by a, a bridge.

Joe Rogan 32:01 Mm-hmm.

Chad Daniels 32:01 And he would go out and talk guys off the ledge and-

Joe Rogan 32:04 Mm-hmm.

Chad Daniels 32:04 ... and so I, I mean, I mean I guess maybe that is.

Joe Rogan 32:06 There was one guy that jumped and he lived. He's one of the rarer guys that lived. And he said as he jumped he'd realized what a horrible mistake he made and he wanted to take it back but he couldn't. And he lived, but he was all fucked up. But, lived a happier life. Like was thankful that he was alive, which is kind of crazy.

Chad Daniels 32:22 Yeah, I, I used to bartend and this dude would come in and he was missing his jaw.

Joe Rogan 32:26 He's talked one of the 200 people off the ledge.

Chad Daniels 32:28 Yeah, that's amazing.

Joe Rogan 32:29 Highway patrol officer. I bet that guy's a smooth talker. I have a buddy who jumped off that bridge.

Chad Daniels 32:36 No shit?

Joe Rogan 32:37 Yeah. Yeah. Tony Anigoni, who's a professional pool player.

Chad Daniels 32:43 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:44 Good dude. I hadn't talked to him in a while. I hadn't talked to him in a couple years. And then I saw it in the news and I was like, "Fuck."

Chad Daniels 32:53 Yep.

Joe Rogan 32:54 Yeah, it's one of those things, man, where it's just like when it happens you just get jolted. Especially the suicide ones. It's like, "What?"

Chad Daniels 33:02 Yeah, when you had no clue.

Joe Rogan 33:03 'Cause like you think about that person when you're all having fun together.

Chad Daniels 33:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 33:07 You think about that person when you're sitting around laughing, cracking jokes.

Chad Daniels 33:11 Especially if it's the life of the party-

Joe Rogan 33:13 Mm-hmm.

Chad Daniels 33:13 ... that does it.

Joe Rogan 33:14 Right.

Chad Daniels 33:14 Then you go, "What the fuck? I could've picked 10 other guys besides you."

Joe Rogan 33:17 Well, like you, imagine Robin Williams. Imagine watching Robin Williams on any-

Chad Daniels 33:22 Right.

Joe Rogan 33:22 Did you ever see that commercial where he's doing a commercial and he won't stop fucking around?

Chad Daniels 33:26 I don't think so.

Joe Rogan 33:26 And the, the director's trying to get him to stop fucking around-

Chad Daniels 33:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:29 ... and he's like, "Will not stop fucking around."

Chad Daniels 33:30 I love that man.

Joe Rogan 33:31 (laughs) He's doing the different characters and shit. It's like, and he's like, "Okay, Robin, can we focus now?" And Robin's just fucking going off. (laughs)

Chad Daniels 33:38 Yeah. But-

Joe Rogan 33:39 That guy you would never imagine could ever be sad, you know.

Chad Daniels 33:42 I was an extra in a movie with him, Billy Crystal, and Julie's, Louise Dreyfus. And I, and he, every, some, two people were sick. They went back to their trailers and I was interviewing him and he did it as Mrs. Doubtfire.

Joe Rogan 33:54 (laughs)

Chad Daniels 33:54 And it was fucking awesome, man. Everybody was losing it.

Joe Rogan 33:57 Play it, Jamie. Let me see it.

Narrator 34:02 I said to him, I said, "Forget it." (laughs)

34:04 Now now Howard, would you mind-

34:06 Pardon me, I, I-

34:06 ... looking straight into the camera?

Chad Daniels 34:06 It's already great, look his back is to the camera.

Narrator 34:09 You know what I don't know? Robin, just do the line so we, and we, and we can get out.

34:13 I can't. Alors, everything, for me, this place is fabulous.

Chad Daniels 34:18 (laughs)

Narrator 34:18 I want to do the line for you.

34:19 Robin, the line, the introduction. Just the one line that you've gotta do.

34:22 Sure Howard.

34:23 Okay, please?

34:23 I will. Yes, sir.

34:24 Okay.

34:26 Foul ball, a male hygiene spray. You know, sometimes below the waterline you could reek. That's why I need new Foul Ball. Something with the part-bearer thing had it upside down.

34:37 (laughs) Sorry. This is fabulous. I couldn't believe... Probably this can's too cold.

34:42 Would you do the line now? Just the introduction, one line? Okay?

34:46 Yes.

34:46 All right.

34:48 Hello. I'm Charlton Heston.

Joe Rogan 34:50 (laughs)

Narrator 34:50 You know, I have very few Jewish friends, if any. But I'd like to say, won't you please help support the United Goyim College Fund?

34:59 Thank you.

34:59 Help learn a child to eat hot dogs this year, mayonnaise and corned beef.

35:02 Can we get another actor in please?

35:04 Howard give me a chance, please. I need this.

35:06 Uh, all I have to do is say-

35:06 Do you want to try it? I didn't...

Chad Daniels 35:09 "Give me a chance." (laughs)

Narrator 35:10 Now, now, now. You know, even though I'm not gonna do it I'm gonna cut camera. You gotta do the line now. Just, all right? Can we hear it please?

35:16 Okay. (Russian)

Joe Rogan 35:18 (laughs)

Narrator 35:19 (Russian) You know, what I would have loved to have seen actually is if they could have combined and dropped off funeral and the Olympics and had him and the bobsled run. (laughs) All right, I'm ready Howard.

35:33 All right. Can we get it now?

35:34 Yes sir. I think we can.

35:34 You know what the line is? Do you want me to hold the cue card?

35:36 No, yeah, I can. Okay.

35:37 The one that says, uh, now doing commercial.

35:40 Oh yeah, I know.

35:40 Okay.

35:40 Yes. I got it. Oh.

35:40 Here we go.

35:41 Mm-hmm.

35:41 And...

35:41 Storm, Storm. That's, that's a German name, isn't it? Storm?

35:45 Yeah.

35:46 Sounds like a dog. "I love little Storm. Come here boy. Hey, off the leg." (laughs) We're ready now. Here we go.

Joe Rogan 35:52 (laughs)

Narrator 35:54 All right and season. I'm ready to say that line Howard because I love you. I love you for the man that you are. An incredible man. More than just one night. A man who can, I don't know, make you realize... Ouch. Who are you? I'm ready now.

36:06 Okay.

Joe Rogan 36:06 (laughs)

Narrator 36:06 You ready?

36:07 Thank you, Mr. Williams.

36:08 Thank you, Howard. Yes? Howard Storm is now directing commer- commercials. Again, I, I can get it this time.

36:17 Yeah? Once more.

Chad Daniels 36:20 (laughs)

Narrator 36:20 Hi. I'm Jack Nicholson and you know Howard Storm is directing goddamn commercials.It's incredible that he can find a camera small enough to work with, but God bless him for trying. His first commercial was Billy Barty on a footstool. God-

Chad Daniels 36:35 (laughs)

Narrator 36:36 ... I love the fact that the man takes chances.

36:39 Thank you.

36:40 Thank you.

36:40 And cut.

Chad Daniels 36:43 (laughs) He just wasn't gonna do it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:48 He's a maniac.

Chad Daniels 36:50 Oh, that's incredible

Joe Rogan 36:51 He's an odd dude, for sure. People get mad when you bring up, uh, the joke-thieving allegations with that guy. But, that's just what it was.

Chad Daniels 37:00 That went on for over 13 minutes, and we only watched-

Joe Rogan 37:01 That's hilarious.

Chad Daniels 37:02 ... two and a half minutes of it. (laughs) Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:04 Yeah, people think that you're not supposed to talk about that part, but that was part of him.

Chad Daniels 37:08 Yeah, you have to talk about everything.

Joe Rogan 37:09 He s- the guy still was great. He was still great. He was very odd. And I also-

Chad Daniels 37:13 I, I wonder if his brain worked so quickly that sometimes it was out before he knew it.

Joe Rogan 37:18 Perhaps. You know, you could excuse someone (sighs) for a lot of things. You don't, I don't know how his brain worked. Obviously, he had, like, mental problems-

Chad Daniels 37:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:25 ... which wound up, uh, there was a lot of physical problems that wound up contributing to his suicide, but depression was part of that, too. Um, but, it's like, it was a, you have to also put it in context. There wasn't anybody like him back then.

Chad Daniels 37:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:39 There was Jonathan Winters, who he took inspiration from, who a lot of people forgot about. Jonathan Winters was, like, really weird like that. He would do really weird, crazy stuff-

Chad Daniels 37:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:48 ... and act like, just, like, different characters, and just wouldn't be there, and just would hold onto it, and people would, like, panic, and they wouldn't know what to do.

Chad Daniels 37:57 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:57 And so I think he took a lot of inspiration from Jonathan Winters, who was an amazing talent, too. But Robin was, like, very unique. There was really nobody like him.

Chad Daniels 38:05 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 38:06 And he could act his ass off, man. He was real, like Good Morning, Vietnam. Like, he was, he was good in movies, too.

Chad Daniels 38:12 Yeah. I liked Good Newell Hunting, when he was in that too.

Joe Rogan 38:15 Yeah, man. Yeah, and serious roles. How about that, uh, uh, 24 Hour Photo? Did you ever see that?

Chad Daniels 38:19 Yes.

Joe Rogan 38:20 Bro.

Chad Daniels 38:21 Creepy.

Joe Rogan 38:21 Creepy.

Chad Daniels 38:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:22 Yeah, he played a good psycho.

Chad Daniels 38:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:24 It was very, very good. But, like, um, you would never imagine a guy like that would hit the rocks, where he'd wind up killing himself. You're like, "No way."

Chad Daniels 38:33 And then, then you start to wonder, like, "Ah, was the comedian part of him, the show, and the 24 Hour Photo was the real deal?"

Joe Rogan 38:41 (sighs) I doubt the 24 Hour Photo was the real deal. I think the real deal was, like, a deeply depressed person, that the-

Chad Daniels 38:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:46 ... the reason why they were so good at getting people entertained is because they needed so much more than the average person just to hit, like, a baseline.

Chad Daniels 38:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:54 You know, I think when people are super depressed, and then they use comedy as, like, a way to just, like a drug, to just-

Chad Daniels 39:01 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 39:02 ... get them. Like, Richard Jeni apparently was only happy when he was killing, and then when he got off stage, he was depressed. And-

Chad Daniels 39:07 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 39:08 He's another guy that wound up killing himself.

Chad Daniels 39:09 That's, like, an hour a day-

Joe Rogan 39:11 Yep.

Chad Daniels 39:11 ... that you're happy.

Joe Rogan 39:12 Yep. And he was, like, the most miserable guy, guaranteed. Like, when I would do morning radio, I would always ask the guy, the drivers, like, "Who's the worst guy you have to drive around?" And they always would say Richard Jeni, 'cause he, he hated it. He didn't wanna be there. Didn't wanna talk to anybody. He was miserable.

Chad Daniels 39:26 He was so fucking funny, though.

Joe Rogan 39:28 Dude was weird. He wanted to be a movie star, apparently. So, back then, in the 1980s and '90s, like, what the thing was, was you would graduate in, into movies, like a Jim Carey.

Chad Daniels 39:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 39:41 Or into TV, like a Seinfeld, and you have your own show.

Chad Daniels 39:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:44 But everybody really wanted movies. That was the thing. And he never got any of those. He was only in, like, one movie. He was in The Mask with Jim Carrey.

Chad Daniels 39:52 Okay.

Joe Rogan 39:52 And, uh, he had a show on the UPN called Platypus Man.

Chad Daniels 39:56 Yeah, I remember that.

Joe Rogan 39:56 It was terrible. But his standup was brilliant. His standup was incredible. He was so good. We all, like, would just be in awe of him.

Chad Daniels 40:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:05 I remember him doing a bit at the, uh, Comedy Works in Montreal. This little, tiny room in Montreal, this great room, run by this amazing guy named Jimbo. Um, Jimbo was the best. And this room is only like a 90-seat room. And it was during the, um, Just for Laughs comedy festival. And Richard Jeni went up, and he did a bit about buying a Corvette. Like, what an unrelatable premise.

Chad Daniels 40:27 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:27 What a, like, uh, you know, what a premise where you're like, "H- how do you get anything out of this?" And was murdering, just murdering.

Chad Daniels 40:35 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 40:35 I can't, I c- can't remember what he said, but I was crying laughing. We were crying laughing, it was so funny. And there were so many punchlines in there. There was so, his sense of irony, his sense, his sarcasm, the way he would hit the punchlines-

Chad Daniels 40:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:48 ... the writing. It's like, all day he prepared for these sets, and then he would just go into a darkness, and just get ready to do it again.

Chad Daniels 40:55 God, that's brutal.

Joe Rogan 40:56 Horrible. I knew his girlfriend. His girlfriend was a comic, too. One of his girlfriends at the time. I don't think she was the girl that was his girlfriend at the time that he killed himself. But she was a comic at the store, and she would just tell me. You know, it's just, like, the guy's so brilliant, but he's, like, so eaten up.

Chad Daniels 41:13 Yeah, it's, some people can't find balance.

Joe Rogan 41:15 Ugh, it sucks, man. When they're that good, you just, like, wanna hug 'em. Just, like, come on, man-

Chad Daniels 41:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:20 ... keep it together, dude.

Chad Daniels 41:21 Just wanna go, just enjoy the rest of it.

Joe Rogan 41:24 I've told this story before, so I apologize to anybody that's heard it. But he went to the East Side Comedy Club in Huntingto- in, um, no, it wasn't Huntington Beach. It was, uh, uh, on Long Island. Uh, East Huntington? I forget where it was. But East Side Comedy Club is a great comic club on Long Island. And I went there on a Sunday, and I talked to the guy that was the emcee all weekend, and he was depressed. And I said, "Why are you depressed?" He goes, "Richard Jeni did a different hour every show."

Chad Daniels 41:47 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 41:47 He did four different hours, and killed. He goes, "I'm up there." He goes, "I have 20 minutes that I'm-"

Chad Daniels 41:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:54 "... opening with, and I can barely get through them. They suck. And then I'm bringing on this genius who does a different hour every fucking show." And he goes, "It makes me wanna quit comedy." I think he might have quit comedy.

Chad Daniels 42:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:06 'Cause I never heard from him. I think, I, I really think that might have done him in. Like, I think he was around for, like, a year or two after that, but I think that was it.

Chad Daniels 42:13 That is tough to watch, though. When you're working-

Joe Rogan 42:15 (sighs)

Chad Daniels 42:15 ... with a master, and you're not even close to it yet.

Joe Rogan 42:18 It's like those dudes who fought Mike Tyson in the early days. Like, you never saw them again. (laughs)

Chad Daniels 42:22 Oh, my. Yeah. (laughs) I've, I've been late for a show twice in my life, and both times, it was from watching Mike Tyson's Greatest Hits.

Joe Rogan 42:29 Oh, wow. They will, they will drive you crazy. There was, there was a time, like, in, like, 1986 to, like, whatever it was when he lost to Buster Douglas, when, there's never been a heavyweight like him.I think he was the greatest of all time. I think he was the greatest of all time for a short period of time. But I think if y- you have to look at a fighter in particular, th- they can't keep it up forever. It's too crazy.

Chad Daniels 42:47 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 42:48 They only have a few years in this, like, high revolution, high rev, red line prime. And that's what I try to judge them on. There's ways... People judge fighters on longevity when you look at, like, Sugar Ray Robinson or... The best example of all time is Bernard Hopkins. Bernard Hopkins was, um, a world champion when he was 49 years old. Crazy, crazy.

Chad Daniels 43:11 That's my age. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:12 Crazy, crazy. And fucking up guys that were 20 years younger than him with ease, you know?

Chad Daniels 43:18 That's wild.

Joe Rogan 43:19 I mean, he was a, a master. Just a masterful boxer who had incredible discipline and never lost focus, and never got out of shape, and never ate bad food. He never ate processed anything.

Chad Daniels 43:30 Wow.

Joe Rogan 43:31 He always ate, like, clean, organic food, drank water, no booze, fuck you. You know, up in the morning, always running, always calisthenics, always was shredded, never gained weight-

Chad Daniels 43:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:41 ... in between fights. Even today, I had him on the podcast toda- um, like, a couple of months ago. How many months ago? Six months ago? Maybe a little longer.

Narrator 43:49 It sounds right.

Joe Rogan 43:50 Something like that. Even now, guy's like in his 50s, he's fucking shredded.

Chad Daniels 43:55 I don't have that anymore.

Joe Rogan 43:55 Ready to go. (laughs) You don't have to.

Chad Daniels 43:57 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:58 You're a comedian.

Chad Daniels 43:58 I'm just like, I- I need the processed food sometimes.

Joe Rogan 44:01 Sometimes you need a little comfort, you know?

Chad Daniels 44:03 What do you think it was about Tyson? Do you think it was his... I always equated it to his, uh, his legs and his coil.

Joe Rogan 44:10 There was a lot of factors, a lot of factors. Um, first of all, there was his upbringing, right? So, he had a horrible, horrible upbringing.

Chad Daniels 44:18 Okay.

Joe Rogan 44:19 Just crime and violence in the worst neighborhood in Brooklyn. He lived in Bed-Stuy, right? So, Brownsville, I think originally, and Bed-Stuy. Terrible neighborhoods, real bad. You know, a lot of- a lot of crime, a lot of violence. And then at 13 years of age, he gets adopted by this guy, Cus D'Amato, who's one of the greatest boxing minds of all time, and he's also a hypnotist. So from age 13-

Chad Daniels 44:46 Oh.

Joe Rogan 44:47 ... on, he's hypnotizing Mike and telling Mike he's the greatest of all time. He's the greatest of all time. He's gonna be the greatest heavyweight the world has ever seen. And then on top of it, you have crazy genetics. Mike... I had Terry-

Chad Daniels 45:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:00 ... Teddy Atlasan. He told me that Mi- when Mike was 13, he was knocking out grown men. And they wouldn't believe he was 13. He'd bring him to boxing tournaments. They were like, "How old's that kid?" He goes, "13." He goes, (smacks lips) "He's fucking 16." He goes, "Okay, he's 16." He- he put him in with the 16-year-olds, he'd knock-

Chad Daniels 45:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:13 ... the 16-year-olds out. Yeah, he was a freak. So you have that sometimes, you know, you have kids that just have extraordinary genes. And then you have this perfect storm of a very intelligent person who was deeply neglected as a child and then adopted by a genius. Not just a boxing genius, but a genius in terms of psychology and life and philosophy, and he understood war. And, like, he- he was a war historian-

Chad Daniels 45:39 Okay.

Joe Rogan 45:40 ... and he was a boxing historian, and he was also managed by this guy, Jim Jeffries, or Jim Jacobs, rather. Excuse me. And Jim Jacobs had Jim Jeffries' tapes, or, uh, James Jeffries. He had, um, like, uh, Jack Johnson and, uh-

Chad Daniels 45:53 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 45:53 ... Jack Dempsey. He had all the film footage of, like, fighters that... Uh, the... some of the greatest boxers of all time. Willie Pep, you know, Floyd Patterson. He had all this old footage on reels, and he was like the biggest collector of old boxing footage. And Mike was being managed by him, so Mike would sit there all day and watch Jack Dempsey fight-

Chad Daniels 46:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 46:17 ... watch Jack Johnson fight, watch Stanley Grebb, watch these old, old killers. You know, these, like, these guys that existed, you know, decades ago, and no one gets a chance to see them.

Chad Daniels 46:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:29 'Cause, you know, we're talking about 1980, you don't even have VHS tapes, right? When did they come along? They were like, '82 or something like that, right? So he's getting, like... This is happening to him in the '70s, like late '70s. Like, s- let's make sense of this. So he's 58, he's a year older than me. And s- well, so how old was he when he was 13? What- what year was it when he was 13, rather?

Chad Daniels 46:54 So he was born in '66.

Narrator 46:56 I think I was born in 1966, so I'd have been 79.

Joe Rogan 46:58 79.

Chad Daniels 46:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:58 Okay, no VHS. So he's... The only way you can see these things is if they put them on television, which they might, but then you have to watch it while it's on TV. You can't rewatch it again. Y-

Chad Daniels 47:09 Yeah. Right.

Joe Rogan 47:09 ... there's no way to record anything. Or you know Jim Jacobs. (laughs) If you know Jim Jacobs-

Chad Daniels 47:15 Oh, my God. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:15 Jim Jacobs-

Chad Daniels 47:16 The cheat code.

Joe Rogan 47:16 ... who also did the commentary in a lot of those. If you watch a lot of those old films, they're black and white and there's no sound, and they, like, put in sound later, but... and Jim Jacobs does the commentary. I know his voice. And he was a genius too, and they- they had this incredible convergence of all these things that created Mike Tyson in like 1986, when people were like, "Holy shit."

Chad Daniels 47:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:40 When he would walk out there with no bathrobe and just fucking...

Chad Daniels 47:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:43 He was a- um, a- a cr- a perfect creation of the universe, like the universe... All the factors that would come into play that make something super special all came in, in his... I- I mean, and to be a boxing champion, it could not have had a better convergence of mind, talent, background, and then the people that were influencing him.

Chad Daniels 48:04 Yeah. Y- he was wild.

Joe Rogan 48:06 Yeah, he's being trained by Teddy Atlas when he's a little kid.

Chad Daniels 48:09 Isn't- isn't it illegal to- to hypnotize a child?

Joe Rogan 48:13 That's a good question.

Chad Daniels 48:15 I would think there's gotta be something there.

Joe Rogan 48:16 That's a good question. Depends, I mean, what if your kid thinks they're possessed? That might be a good thing to hypnotize them. If your kid's like, "What's in..."

Chad Daniels 48:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:23 Like, "You are under the... You kid."

Chad Daniels 48:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:26 "I have words for you." Like, "Oh, Billy, what the fuck is wrong with you, man? I'm sorry I left you alone. I had to work."

Chad Daniels 48:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:32 "I had two jobs, I had to pay the bills." (laughs) Billy's bouncing off the walls at home and he thinks he's possessed.

Chad Daniels 48:36 (laughs) He's freaking out. You're like, "Watch the spoon."

Joe Rogan 48:38 Yeah. It might be good to hypnotize that kid. But yeah, I would think...... hypnotizing anybody before they were aware what the fuck that means. But I don't think hypnotizing is what people think it is either. I don't necess- I've only been hypnotized once, so I can't speak to, like, what the total potential of what someone could do with hypnosis is.

Chad Daniels 49:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:02 But you're aware of what's going on.

Chad Daniels 49:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:03 It's not like you're gonna, like, take your clothes off and blow the sky. Like, it doesn't make any sense. Like, y- you're a, you're just in a different state of consciousness, and it's almost like you're allowed to look at things for what they really are versus all this noise that surround most of the ideas in your head, where you're blaming other people when you should probably blame yourself-

Chad Daniels 49:22 Yeah. Right.

Joe Rogan 49:22 ... when, you know, you were lazy, and that's why it went bad.

Chad Daniels 49:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:25 And it wasn't like a s- someone else's fault. And all that stuff that keeps people on the wrong track, that keeps people drinking too much and gambling too much, all those weird things that are going on-

Chad Daniels 49:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:36 ... in your head, like, it'll get past that and you'll see you.

Chad Daniels 49:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:41 And you see you for a brief amount of time, and you kinda analyze what it is that's fucking with you. And then someone who's, like, a good performance psychologist can implant, um, ideas, like help you implant ideas in your mind of how you're gonna approach things from now on, how you're gonna look at things from now on. I know a lot of fighters use them, a lot of fighters use-

Chad Daniels 50:02 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:02 ... hypnotists and performance coaches. The guy who did it to me is, uh, my friend Vinnie Shoreman, and he does it to a lot of fighters. He hypnotizes a lot of fighters.

Chad Daniels 50:10 And what does he, what does he put in there then?

Joe Rogan 50:13 I think it depends. It, I think it's different for each fighter, you know?

Chad Daniels 50:16 So what they need?

Joe Rogan 50:17 Yeah.

Chad Daniels 50:17 What they're missing.

Joe Rogan 50:18 I mean, some t- some fighters ... There's a thing that happens with some fighters in the midst of a chaotic fight, they will forget about the game plan and they will just go on instinct and start throwing down, and they wind up getting knocked out, or something goes bad. They, they, they panic. Like, n- I don't wanna say panic, but they don't think straight. That's the best way to say it, 'cause th- they're, they're still fighting, you know, it's chaos. But you're letting that lizard brain take over.

Chad Daniels 50:44 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:44 And you're not sticking to the game plan. Like, the really good fighters know how, even in these, like, chaotic scrambles, to keep things tactical. Don't do anything that's gonna get you caught. Like, there's very s- It looks nutty when you're watching it on television, but if you're watching a tactician like a Max Holloway or, you know, San Hagen or, you know, Sean O'Malley, like, these, these fighters are very tactical. Everything they're doing is to elicit a reaction from you, and then they have counters based on how you do things, and then they start downloading how you're moving and reacting to things, and then they'll start plotting and moving. Anderson Silva was the very best at that.

Chad Daniels 51:23 Jeez.

Joe Rogan 51:23 He would take the first round and he would just be kinda, like, moving with you and moving with you, and then towards the end of the round he'd start fucking you up.

Chad Daniels 51:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:30 But for the f- (laughs) he was just downloading-

Chad Daniels 51:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:32 Anderson in his prime, you know, I had never seen anything like him.

Chad Daniels 51:36 Do you think-

Joe Rogan 51:36 He was at his prime, he was just downloading people's movements.

Chad Daniels 51:39 And do you think those other fighters could see it in his eyes and they were like, "Ah, fuck."

Joe Rogan 51:43 Yeah.

Chad Daniels 51:43 "Now he knows."

Joe Rogan 51:44 Yeah, when he was at the top, for sure. Everyone was terrified of him.

Chad Daniels 51:46 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 51:47 The one thing that they didn't find out, though, he had a flaw. And the flaw was, if you didn't attack him, he didn't attack you. Like, he wasn't willing to take stupid chances, especially with, like, big punchers.

Chad Daniels 51:58 Sure.

Joe Rogan 51:59 Like, there was this guy Patrick Cote, and Patrick Cote was a big puncher. Like, one-punch KO guy. And they had the worst fight. It was a boring-ass fight. And then Patrick, unfortunately, threw a kick and blew out his knee. It was, like, the worst ending of a fight ever. Just, his knee exploded.

Chad Daniels 52:14 Just not getting hit? Just kind of twisted a bit?

Joe Rogan 52:16 Yeah, not getting hit at all. He just went to throw a kick and his knee was in a weird position, and it just blew apart.

Chad Daniels 52:21 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 52:22 And he's like, "God!" Falls down. That's happened before. It happened to Tom Aspinall recently. Threw a kick, knee fell apart. Didn't even happ- Like, it wasn't happening, like, where someone did something to him. He just threw a kick and his knee fell apart.

Chad Daniels 52:32 I'd rather watch a guy get knocked unconscious than have that huge response-

Joe Rogan 52:36 Hmm.

Chad Daniels 52:36 ... to a part of their body blowing up.

Joe Rogan 52:39 The b- the knee's a bad one, but the worst is a shin break. That's the very, very worst. Or an arm break.

Chad Daniels 52:45 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 52:45 A forearm break or a shin break. Those are very hard to watch. Those are the hardest I've ever w- I've, I've seen four leg breaks in person, and they're-

Chad Daniels 52:52 Oh.

Joe Rogan 52:52 ... they're fucking horrific, man. They are fucking horrific. They hurt your soul.

Chad Daniels 52:57 Oh, you got one?

Joe Rogan 52:58 This is the worst one. Oh, that's Patrick right there. So watch how he does this. Look, it's so crazy. He, they're moving around and he, he goes like he's gonna throw a kick, and he just fucking moved weird.

Chad Daniels 53:12 Oh, God. That's it?

Joe Rogan 53:12 Outta nowhere. Outta nowhere. His knee just exploded. Blew out his ACL, torn his meniscus. Crazy.

Chad Daniels 53:19 Ah, and that's a tough dude, so for him to have that reaction? Come on.

Joe Rogan 53:22 Oh, the toughest. He was an animal.

Chad Daniels 53:23 Come on.

Joe Rogan 53:24 Patrick Cote was a fucking animal. But, uh, the fight was kind of boring because he was so dangerous, so Anderson couldn't, he couldn't lead, right?

Chad Daniels 53:32 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:32 'Cause if you lead, you worry about being countered. So Anderson was not just really fucking good, but also really smart.

Chad Daniels 53:41 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 53:42 He just knew when he could hit you and he knew when you could hit him, and he would take his time.

Chad Daniels 53:47 Huh.

Joe Rogan 53:48 But again, once he got you figured out ... Like, as the fight went on he would v- Like, if y- if y- he made the fight boring, it was also a strategy.

Chad Daniels 53:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:57 'Cause then you would be anxious-

Chad Daniels 53:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:59 ... and you would maybe do something to try to pick up the pace, and he would crack you.

Chad Daniels 54:02 Yup.

Joe Rogan 54:02 So he's an old veteran, so he's just standing around going, "I don't give a fuck about booze. Let's-"

Chad Daniels 54:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:07 It's like, "I'm gonna just move around here."

Chad Daniels 54:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:09 He did that with another guy, a Brazilian guy, Talles Leites. Kinda the same thing. Boring-ass fight, but a dangerous fighter, and a really dangerous guy on the ground. Talles Leites was a nasty jujitsu black belt. And so he was like, "Well, I ain't going to the ground."

Chad Daniels 54:22 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 54:23 Like, "I'm just gonna fucking stay on the outside-"

Chad Daniels 54:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:24 "... just kinda barely win every round. You know, but if you do something stupid, I'll fuck you up." (laughs) And nobody did anything stupid.

Chad Daniels 54:31 Oh, that's wild to know all that shit.

Joe Rogan 54:32 Well, he was just so smart that he didn't care if people were booing, and then the UFC would get mad at him. They'd get mad at him 'cause of those performances, even though he's the greatest of all time. At the time he was, for sure. In my eyes he's still in the, uh, in the conversation of ... Uh, during his time period of when he was ru- running shit, still in my book one of the, if not the greatest, the greatest of all ... one of the greatest of all time. For sure. He's in the conversation. Whatever that ... The conversation's so subjective, and I change my opinion on it all the time.

Chad Daniels 54:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:57 But during that time period, he didn't give a fuck if people were booing.... yep. He didn't care. It's like... And so the UFC would get mad at him. But I was always of the mind that he's doing the 100% correct thing. He's the best fighter. And to fight the best, you gotta know when to attack and when not to attack, and sometimes you don't attack at all. Yeah. Sometimes, he... Y- j- if t-... If he does something out of character and forces it, that was not his style. So for him to engage in a, in a style that's not his style, then that's stupid. The smart thing is to fight to the best of your abilities. And unfortunately, some of those fights were not fun. But you also get the Vitor Belfort fight from the same guy. You know, you get, uh, you, y- uh, you get the Okami fight, you get the Forrest Griffin fight. You get all those, uh, insane knockouts, those highlight reel knockouts. He was a monster, man. In his prime, he was a monster. (laughs) But if you can take the booze and the other guy can't... Yeah. Well, he's... It was also like- ... the way it goes. ... he wasn't gonna do anything stupid- Yeah. ... until he did, and then he did- (laughs) ... and he got knocked out by Chris Weidman 'cause he was doing something stupid. That's literally what his demise was, was the thing that kept him so invincible his whole career. He would stay composed. No matter what happened, he'd just stay composed. He always knew when to attack, when not to attack, when to attack, when not to attack. He was just a, a genius. Th- there's guys that, like, for a while, f- whatever those years are, where you, like... You can't beat him. Like no one's gonna beat him f- for these years. And that's just because of his strategy, watching you move. Well, he's just so... He was also so good at being the champion, right? There's a thing about performing in front of so many people with such high stakes. And if you've never experienced that before, the first time you ever fight for a championship fight, it's so crazy. You see it in guys' faces sometimes. Sure. You see the weight of it on them. Mm-hmm. They're like, "Fuck, this is so heavy." It's like there's so much anxiety. You just can't wait to get in there and get it. And once it gets going, then you're fine, then you're just going on instincts, then you're going on training, and then you're just... You're fighting. Yeah. But it's the buildup, and the thinking, and the anticipation, and the anxiety. He's used to that. Yeah. He's done that 13 times. He's def- Right. He defended the middleweight title, I believe, more than anyone ever. Is that true? I believe he did. That's why Gene Hackman measured the hoop in Hoosiers, right? Hmm. Let him know like, "You've been here. This is it. Same fuck... It's 10 feet." Yeah, it's the same thing everywhere. Yeah. But the thing is, that's like that anxiety of performing in the moment, and that's what a sports psychologist does. That's where- Mm-hmm. ... a sports psychiatrist comes in. That's where a sports hypnotist, rather, comes in. Psychiatrist h- too, but they could... They give you drugs. You can't take those- (laughs) ... when you're fighting. Some guys have tried. (laughs) I knew a guy who got k- kicked off a card 'cause he was on Adderall. And they were like, "You can't take Adderall and fight." (laughs) He's like, "I need it for my ADD." Like, "Fuck, shut up." (laughs) "Shut up, bro, you're on speed." (laughs) It's tough, though, man. Sports can mess you up. Oh, 100%. Like my... I, I come home from golf for the last three years miserable, right? Calling myself a dumb fuck, calling myself a piece of shit, loser. And then my girlfriend goes, "Hey, why don't you just, uh, just tell yourself... You know, pretend you're talking to eight-year-old you?" Hmm. And I tried that shit for a round. I had the greatest round of my life. Yeah, you could do it. You just have to... That part of being a man, in particular, like, "Fucking idiot," you know, like you... When you make a mistake, you gotta avoid that. Oh. Does you zero good. There's a, there's a gym teacher with real short shorts in my head. That's- (laughs) That is the voice in my head, dude. Just like, "You fucking idiot." I'm, uh... I'm guilty of that sometimes when I play pool. I'll talk shit to myself. (laughs) This is great. "Charles Barkley's one of us?" This is great. (laughs) "What does he do? What does he do?"

Narrator 58:42 God dammit, you fat fuck. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:45 (laughs)

Narrator 58:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:46 Did you... (laughs) Did you hear how fast that was? (laughs) I mean, he almost not even hit the ball before he said it.

Narrator 58:52 Ah!

Joe Rogan 58:52 That's amazing. Oh my God, that's hilarious. And then the girl's taking the video laugh at the end. Oh. It's so good. Oh. (laughs) That's hilarious. Yeah, that does not help you. Uh-uh. But also, there's a thing about a guy like a Charles Barkley, or a guy like you, it's like you don't really have the time to dedicate to a thing like golf- Right. ... to really get great at it. Right. It's the same thing as, uh, playing pool. The great pool players, they play eight hours a day. Oh. Eight hours a day. If you wanna play at like a Shane Van Boening level, you wanna play at like a Fedor Gorst level, you have to play eight hours a day. They play eight hours a day. Yeah. They don't fuck around. They, they're so in the groove all the time, that if you're like a casual player, you just can't find that groove. And they don't wanna ever let that groove go. Right. They're in that groove all day long, all day long. Yeah. They wake up in the morning and they start thinking about running balls, they start thinking about putting English on balls, start... Like if you... If you wanna play golf like a really great golfer, those fucking guys play every day. Yeah. They have coaches. There's just no way. They analyze footage. Like look at Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods started playing when he was, how old? Three, maybe? Two? In the womb, arguably? I don't know. Yeah. (laughs) Yeah, and was coached by his father from the time he was a child. Played constantly. Yeah. Greatest of all time. I mean, you can get in the groove for a little bit. Yeah. And that's what keeps you going back. Uh-huh. But you're not gonna stay in the groove. You're not gonna stay in the groove. No. That, to me... My... It's maddening for me with pool. I could... 'Cause I could play pool... Like if I have a night off and I can play for like five, six hours, like around four hours in, I start really getting the groove, I start feeling it. But it's, like, inconsistent. It comes- Sure. ... and goes. Yeah. But if you play with a great player and you watch them do it, they just never get out of the groove. They're always there. Th- they very rarely miss. They very rarely miss position. Their cue ball's perfect. It's always moving exactly where they want it to go. And if it's not, they play safe. And you watch it, and you're just like, "What?" It's like, this is a feel of the movement of the balls that's only- (laughs) ... possible- Yeah. ... if you're so finely tuned to it that you're playing every day. Like, I... This, uh, guy, Fedor, he just won the, uh, world championships. He's a, a friend of mine. He's been on the podcast before.... uh, we were having a conversation on the phone about cues, 'cause he had, uh, switched. He was with this company, Cue Tech, and then he switched to this company, White Carbon. And, uh, and he- and it was months ago. And I was saying, we were talking about, you know, different approaches he uses and different equipment. He's like, "I'm still adjusting to this cue." I go, "Really?" I go, "Have you had it for, like, how long, how long now?" He's like, "Four months." He goes, "Well..." He goes, "I'm pretty much there." He goes, "But I'm about 3% or 4% off."

Chad Daniels 1:01:30 Yeah, how are you even-

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 3% or 4% off.

Chad Daniels 1:01:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:33 3% or 4% off. Like, this guy's a fucking robot.

Chad Daniels 1:01:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:36 Like, his, his understanding of where he should be versus where he is and h- He wants to know exactly how much pressure to apply on that cue to make that ball dance exactly the way... He's like, "Mm, it's a little off." It's a little- Like, he knows it's a little off. I did it-

Chad Daniels 1:01:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:53 ... just right, but it went there instead of there. Hmm. 3%.

Chad Daniels 1:01:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:58 What the fuck, man?

Chad Daniels 1:01:59 You ever left the stage and just screamed, "100 fucking percent," into the green room?

Joe Rogan 1:02:03 (laughs)

Chad Daniels 1:02:03 "I'm off 100%"

Joe Rogan 1:02:07 Every now and then you catch a groove and you are at 100%. And those, those moments are the weirdest. You're like, "Why can't I do this all the time? Why can't I just have so much fun with the jokes all the time?" Some of- sometimes you're having so much fun saying the material, it makes everything so much better.

Chad Daniels 1:02:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:22 And you're like, "Why don't I do this all the time?"

Chad Daniels 1:02:24 And it just feels like every, every single thing you say-

Joe Rogan 1:02:27 Mm-hmm.

Chad Daniels 1:02:27 ... is gonna be awesome.

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 And the more you do it, the more you're there. Right? So if you have a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, like if you're doing a real week in a place-

Chad Daniels 1:02:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:36 ... you know, by the time Saturday rolls around, you're a wizard.

Chad Daniels 1:02:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:39 You're a wizard.

Chad Daniels 1:02:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:40 You got those bits tied up in a fucking basement. (laughs)

Chad Daniels 1:02:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:45 You're in control of the situation.

Chad Daniels 1:02:46 Just thinking about what you're gonna eat after the show and still killing.

Joe Rogan 1:02:49 Yeah, you're in the flow.

Chad Daniels 1:02:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:50 You're in that flow state. And that's when you come up with new stuff. That's the best way to come up with new stuff, 'cause you just feel funny.

Chad Daniels 1:02:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:56 You feel where the funny is. It's like, I know that vibe. I caught that vibe. I know where that vibe is. I can ride that vibe.

Chad Daniels 1:03:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:03:02 And that's those golf guys. So if you're not doing that every day, you're gonna get out there and-

Chad Daniels 1:03:06 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:06 "Fucking, fucking loser."

Chad Daniels 1:03:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:08 "Fucking idiot."

Chad Daniels 1:03:09 Didn't he-

Joe Rogan 1:03:09 "You fat fuck." (laughs)

Chad Daniels 1:03:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:11 "You talk to yourself." Just like Charles Barkley. It's unavoidable.

Chad Daniels 1:03:15 Yeah. Do you ever play snooker?

Joe Rogan 1:03:17 I... No, I have not played. I've seen people play it. I've fucked around on a snooker table. I've never played a game of snooker, but it's very difficult.

Chad Daniels 1:03:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:24 It's hard. A lot of snooker players are super successful in pool. No pool players. I mean, maybe Alex Pagulayan, who's... He can play everything. He's like a world champion in, like, every discipline. He's a world champion in eight-ball, nine-ball, ten-ball, bank-

Chad Daniels 1:03:36 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:03:36 He's like one of the greats of all times. One of the Filipinos, too, which for whatever reason, Filipinos are the best pool players on earth. Like, there's more, there's guys driving taxi cabs in Filipino, in, in the Philippines rather, that can win pool tournaments in, in America.

Chad Daniels 1:03:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:51 They come over here, like, every... You, you can't even... You... Everywhere you go is pool tables. Like, it's like one of the most popular games-

Chad Daniels 1:03:59 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:04:00 ... in the entire co- in the whole island chain. It's huge over there. But, um, that guy's a wor- He's like an elite professional snooker player as well as an elite professional pool player, but he's super rare.

Chad Daniels 1:04:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:11 There's like John Moore. There's a couple other guys that can play, like, really good snooker.

Chad Daniels 1:04:15 We came up playing snooker at, like, northern Minnesota.

Joe Rogan 1:04:18 That's a tough game, man.

Chad Daniels 1:04:19 Yeah, you'd go in and these guys are just like... They take it so fucking seriously. If you lose them a dollar... I mean, these were old, old men. And if you lose them a dollar, forget it, you're out.

Joe Rogan 1:04:28 (laughs)

Chad Daniels 1:04:29 I remember, one of the... They always used to say, uh, when he'd m- So a two ball was worth money. So you'd have to make a cherry, it's called, a red ball first.

Joe Rogan 1:04:36 Mm-hmm.

Chad Daniels 1:04:36 And then you had to make a number ball. And then he would always go, if he'd miss the two ball, he'd go, "They never do." Or he'd go, "Yeah, you bet," if he'd made it. And so we went to this guy's funeral and we had a buddy with me and he had a flask with him. And they were talking and he ra- stands up and raises the flask and he goes, "They never do." And then all his old buddies had flasks with them and they raise and they go, "Yeah, you bet."

Joe Rogan 1:04:59 Oh.

Chad Daniels 1:04:59 It was the fucking greatest funeral I've ever been to.

Joe Rogan 1:05:01 That's awesome. Well, I bet snooker pool, snooker halls... What would he call them? What are they called, snooker halls?

Chad Daniels 1:05:08 I-

Joe Rogan 1:05:08 When people play snooker.

Chad Daniels 1:05:09 We just played at The Spot. I don't know. It was like, it was like a little restaurant that had tables in the back.

Joe Rogan 1:05:14 Oh, okay. And they were all snooker tables?

Chad Daniels 1:05:16 We had two pool tables and then two snooker tables.

Joe Rogan 1:05:18 Oh, okay.

Chad Daniels 1:05:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:19 'Cause at, like, places where they just play snooker, do they call them a snooker hall?

Narrator 1:05:22 Mm-hmm.

Chad Daniels 1:05:23 Probably.

Joe Rogan 1:05:23 Is that what they're called? Yeah?

Narrator 1:05:24 Or a snooker club, maybe.

Chad Daniels 1:05:25 Snooker club.

Narrator 1:05:25 It's about the best I could see online.

Joe Rogan 1:05:27 The term pool actually comes from gambling. Snooker is not the game. The game is pocket billiards. The... Pool is what's called... They would pool their money together and gamble.

Chad Daniels 1:05:35 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:05:35 That's, that's the name, that's the name that was attributed to it. Yeah. It was really a gambling game, 100%. But snooker players come over to America. "Snooker players" come over to America and rob people in pool.

Chad Daniels 1:05:47 True.

Joe Rogan 1:05:47 They play really good, 'cause they're used to those little holes.

Chad Daniels 1:05:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:51 And also in these big-ass holes.

Chad Daniels 1:05:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:52 And it's just getting used to the ball moving different, 'cause they, uh... Their balls are so small.

Chad Daniels 1:05:58 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:05:58 They don't put a lot of side English on them.

Chad Daniels 1:06:00 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:06:00 And they don't do, like, weird stuff with them. American cue balls are larger, so... And the ball- The billiard balls are larger.

Chad Daniels 1:06:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:05 So they, they do a lot of shit with them. They throw balls into the side pocket with English and do weird things. So they have to learn all that stuff and then they learn how to break hard. Once they can do that, their technique is so flawless.

Chad Daniels 1:06:16 Yeah, it's spot on, 'cause they're going just straight shots.

Joe Rogan 1:06:18 And they have academies that teach people how to play. There's not, like, a lot of... Like, there's a few really good teachers in this country, but there's no, like, national system where you have, like, a university that you go to to learn how to play snooker.

Chad Daniels 1:06:31 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:06:31 Like, you know, they have that. They have, like, real c- Like, there's r- The... At one point in time, there was real money in snooker in the UK. Like, real money. Like, those guys were millionaires.

Chad Daniels 1:06:40 What?

Joe Rogan 1:06:41 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Chad Daniels 1:06:43 Now, the guys I was playing with were not millionaires.

Joe Rogan 1:06:45 But you were playing with the guys in-

Chad Daniels 1:06:46 They were having fun.

Joe Rogan 1:06:46 ... Canada or Michigan, right?

Chad Daniels 1:06:47 Minnesota, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:47 Minnesota.

Chad Daniels 1:06:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:49 All that cold stuff's the same to me. (laughs)

Chad Daniels 1:06:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:06:53 But in the UK, yeah, there was, uh, there was... Snooker was huge on television. I remember going over there for a gig long time ago and turning on the TV. I'm like, "Whoa, they got snooker on, like, regular TV. This is nuts."

Chad Daniels 1:07:04 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 1:07:05 ... yeah, watching these matches, 'cause you, you know, you're stuck in a hotel room before your show.

Chad Daniels 1:07:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:10 So you're just watching, "What do you guys watch?" And they're all watching snooker.

Chad Daniels 1:07:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:07:14 But, um, for whatever reason, I think it died off. I don't think it's that popular anymore.

Chad Daniels 1:07:20 I don't think you could find a snooker table in the town I grew up in anymore.

Joe Rogan 1:07:23 Hmm. Yeah.

Chad Daniels 1:07:25 Places close. They get rid of them 'cause all the old guys that played died off.

Joe Rogan 1:07:30 Well, the real died... The game that really died off was three-cushion billiards. Three-cushion billiards was the real game back in the day.

Chad Daniels 1:07:37 What's that?

Joe Rogan 1:07:38 It's a game with no pockets.

Chad Daniels 1:07:40 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:07:40 And the game, it was a, it was also a very big gambling game, where people would gamble a lot of money. Like gentlemen would gamble a lot of money playing three-cushion. And three-cushion, you can't find that anywhere anymore. It's still in some countries. I think Korea has a big three-cushion scene, and Belgium. There's a guy from Belgium that does really well at three-cushion. Some European countries still use it.

Chad Daniels 1:08:00 Is that the one that has like the score, uh, up on a wire above the table, where you move it with your cue?

Joe Rogan 1:08:06 Um, that, they do that with pool too.

Chad Daniels 1:08:07 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 1:08:08 That's just