Joe Rogan Experience #2179 - Bridget Phetasy

Narrator 0:00 (drum beat plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Do you have a new phone? What y- what year was-

Bridget Phetasy 0:15 No.

Joe Rogan 0:16 ... that one?

Bridget Phetasy 0:16 This one is, like, one of the rehabbed ones. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:18 Oh. Th- those are still good though. Like, whi- which number-

Bridget Phetasy 0:22 They can-

Joe Rogan 0:22 Which number is it?

Bridget Phetasy 0:23 13, I think.

Joe Rogan 0:24 Oh, those are still good.

Bridget Phetasy 0:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:25 I have an 11 that's still good.

Bridget Phetasy 0:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:28 I keep an 11 for one of my numbers.

Bridget Phetasy 0:30 Okay.

Joe Rogan 0:30 One of my bullshit numbers.

Bridget Phetasy 0:31 Like, (laughs) for what?

Joe Rogan 0:34 There's certain people you can't give the real number to.

Bridget Phetasy 0:36 Oh, yeah. Why would you even give them a number though? You're, like, a straightforward guy.

Joe Rogan 0:40 I guess you have to sometimes.

Bridget Phetasy 0:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:42 Sometimes you have to communicate with people, but you want a phone that you just stick in a fucking drawer somewhere.

Bridget Phetasy 0:46 Yeah, and check, like, once a month.

Joe Rogan 0:48 If that.

Bridget Phetasy 0:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:49 Yeah. (laughs) It just gets crazy where so many relationships become, like, completely transactional and-

Bridget Phetasy 0:57 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 0:58 ... you know, like, every time someone texts you, they want something, and it's just so frustrating.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03 I can see it even being your friend. I can see it from a fucking mile away now. People will be like, "Hey, Bridge." I'm like, "I'm not introducing you to Joe. Leave me alone."

Joe Rogan 1:14 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:16 Uh, all my friends have a story-

Bridget Phetasy 1:17 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:17 ... of somebody who has a business idea.

Bridget Phetasy 1:19 No, I mean-

Joe Rogan 1:20 They think I'm gonna help them sell skateboards.

Bridget Phetasy 1:21 If someone's like, "Hey, let's get coffee. It's been too long." I'm like, "Nope."

Joe Rogan 1:26 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:28 Not doing it.

Joe Rogan 1:29 That's hilarious.

Bridget Phetasy 1:30 I had a friend from high school reach out randomly, "Hey, Bridge." Nope.

Joe Rogan 1:34 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:35 I see it. I see it from a mile away now. I'm like, "What is it like to be you?"

Joe Rogan 1:40 It's odd.

Bridget Phetasy 1:41 'Cause I'm just the, like, you know, like, an outer asteroid in the, in the universe, but i- imagine (laughs) being, like, the planet itself.

Joe Rogan 1:51 Um, I've managed to stay myself, which is, uh, th- shocking.

Bridget Phetasy 1:55 Yeah, you have.

Joe Rogan 1:56 But, but I have really good friends. You know, my friends-

Bridget Phetasy 1:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:59 ... are really good friends.

Bridget Phetasy 1:59 And I, and I think you have friends who take the piss outta you. Like-

Joe Rogan 2:04 Yes. And have had... They've been my friends for 20, 30 years.

Bridget Phetasy 2:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:07 Like Joey and I have been friends for almost 30 years.

Bridget Phetasy 2:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:10 27 years or 28 year- p- m- it might be 30 now. Fuck. I might have met him in '94.

Bridget Phetasy 2:16 (laughs) It helps to have, like... I was asking my husband right before I left about a tweet I was gonna send out, and he's like, "Meh." And I was like- (laughs) because he-

Joe Rogan 2:25 (gasps)

Bridget Phetasy 2:25 I was like, "Is this too much?" And then I was like, "Fine." He's like, "Oh, what do you just want me to, like, clap for you?"

Joe Rogan 2:30 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 2:31 I was like, "I'm so glad you're my husband." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:33 Yeah, you definitely need someone who's not impressed.

Bridget Phetasy 2:35 No, not impressed at all.

Joe Rogan 2:36 He t- or, uh, b- at the very least, maybe not impressed, but also not bullshitting you.

Bridget Phetasy 2:40 No.

Joe Rogan 2:41 Right?

Bridget Phetasy 2:41 He will not bullshit.

Joe Rogan 2:42 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 2:42 He won't bullshit anyone. He, like-

Joe Rogan 2:44 That's great.

Bridget Phetasy 2:44 ... suffers no fools at all.

Joe Rogan 2:45 That's great that, that ensures that you won't live in a world of compromise.

Bridget Phetasy 2:49 No. No.

Joe Rogan 2:50 You know, and some people are okay. They just fuck up every now and then. You have to tell them, "Hey, man, don't lie to me."

Bridget Phetasy 2:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:55 "You don't have to lie."

Bridget Phetasy 2:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:56 "You don't do that."

Bridget Phetasy 2:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:58 You know. But it's just this weird thing that people fall back on bullshitting and lying. They just fall back on it. It's... And they don't even know they're doing it to themselves. You, you, you will have less respect for yourself. You'll-

Bridget Phetasy 3:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:10 So it's not worth it.

Bridget Phetasy 3:11 No. (laughs) It's not.

Joe Rogan 3:12 It's not worth it 'cause y- y- you, you just create these things that aren't real in your life, these relationships, these friendships-

Bridget Phetasy 3:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:19 ... that aren't based on reality.

Bridget Phetasy 3:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:21 You know?

Bridget Phetasy 3:21 Exactly. These people.

Joe Rogan 3:22 If a person can't handle the truth, you get... You, you can't tell them, "Hey, that sucks."

Bridget Phetasy 3:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:26 Like, "You gotta work on this. You gotta change this. You gotta do that."

Bridget Phetasy 3:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:29 "If you don't do that, it's not gonna get any better." They're like, "What? I thought it was the best book ever written."

Bridget Phetasy 3:33 No.

Joe Rogan 3:34 No. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 3:34 No. I wa- I mean, I've had... All of my favorite editors have been so hard on me. I want, I want honest criticism.

Joe Rogan 3:41 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 3:41 You know?

Joe Rogan 3:42 You want... Like, you write, write jokes for your haters.

Bridget Phetasy 3:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:45 You know? Write jokes to turn them over. Like, "Ah, that was pretty good one. Fuck her." (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 3:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:51 You know? Y- y-... Stanhope told me once that he writes jokes like a defense attorney.

Bridget Phetasy 3:55 Oh, interesting.

Joe Rogan 3:57 Yeah. He, uh, examines his jokes as if he was, like, prosecuting them.

Bridget Phetasy 4:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:01 It's great. It's a great move.

Bridget Phetasy 4:03 That's really funny.

Joe Rogan 4:03 It's, uh, it's very similar to mine what I said. I write jokes for haters.

Bridget Phetasy 4:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:07 You gotta look at it like a hater sometimes-

Bridget Phetasy 4:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:09 ... because you can get too in love with your stuff.

Bridget Phetasy 4:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:12 It's too easy. It's too easy to get in love with your stuff.

Bridget Phetasy 4:15 The audience will tell you too.

Joe Rogan 4:17 Well, that's the difference between comedy and other things, right?

Bridget Phetasy 4:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:20 It's hard if you're just a journalist.

Bridget Phetasy 4:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:22 You, you know? (laughs) You're just writing, you, you, you kind of believe your opinion makes sense. And all of them are doing the same thing, like almost all of them, except for the independent ones. They're almost all doing the same things. They're saying th- they're, they're expressing their thoughts to a very particular group of people.

Bridget Phetasy 4:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:41 And they're also lying about another group of people almost always.

Bridget Phetasy 4:47 Yeah. It's a-

Joe Rogan 4:48 Like the right does it and the left does it.

Bridget Phetasy 4:50 Yeah, it's all fan fiction. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:52 Yeah, it is fan fiction. Like the right does it with liberals because liberals aren't Antifa. Liberals aren't-

Bridget Phetasy 5:00 No.

Joe Rogan 5:00 ... the people that are lighting Starbucks on fire-

Bridget Phetasy 5:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:03 ... and shooting cops. That's not liberals. That is just a thing that has existed in a team where you allow anyone to join the team. So if you have something where anybody can join the team, right, which is basically what being a liberal or a conservative is, anyone can join the team.

Bridget Phetasy 5:20 No, they don't like the sluts, Joe.

Joe Rogan 5:22 (laughs)

Narrator 5:22 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 5:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:22 Everybody loves sluts. They just don't-

Bridget Phetasy 5:24 Not the conservatives.

Joe Rogan 5:24 Not publicly.

Bridget Phetasy 5:25 (laughs) Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 5:26 Don't listen.

Bridget Phetasy 5:27 I, I know. Oh, I know. I know.

Joe Rogan 5:27 I know a lot of those ladies fucking party hard-

Bridget Phetasy 5:30 No, no, no.

Joe Rogan 5:30 ... but they do it for Jesus.

Bridget Phetasy 5:30 We'll get to that. I know.

Joe Rogan 5:32 They do it for Jesus.

Bridget Phetasy 5:33 I'm, I'm just saying publicly-

Joe Rogan 5:34 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 5:35 ... keep those sluts out of our party.

Joe Rogan 5:37 It's the same thing though, man. I'm telling you, it's the same thing. If you are an Antifa or if you are Patriot Front, you're, you c-... I could have got either one of you fucks.

Bridget Phetasy 5:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:48 You just gotta get them early, get them when they're vulnerable-

Bridget Phetasy 5:51 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 5:52 ... talk them into a very specific ideology. "You know who's your problem? The Jews."

Bridget Phetasy 5:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:58 And next thing you know, they think that Jews really are their problems. They're, that's all their problems.

Bridget Phetasy 6:02 And they kind of meet on that.

Joe Rogan 6:03 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 6:03 They're kind of shaking hands.

Joe Rogan 6:03 They get together with the Jews, with now, with, which is odd, right?

Bridget Phetasy 6:06 The abortion theory.

Joe Rogan 6:07 Because of Palestine and Gaza. The, it's... That's where-

Bridget Phetasy 6:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:11 ... it's kind of come around. Like that moment in time, it's like everybody's mad at the Jews now. It's like, "Fuck."

Bridget Phetasy 6:16 I mean, that's the ancient conspiracy theory of all conspiracy theories-

Joe Rogan 6:20 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 6:21 ... that th- it's the Jews fault. This is, like, one of the oldest conspiracy theories of mankind.

Joe Rogan 6:26 Well, the Jews make it real tough to join.... they're one of the more interesting-

Bridget Phetasy 6:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:30 ... religions. Like, if you wanna join, it, my uncle gr- uh, joined. My uncle converted to Judaism. He married a nice Jewish lady.

Bridget Phetasy 6:37 I kinda wanna convert.

Joe Rogan 6:39 Go for it.

Bridget Phetasy 6:39 I kinda do. It's a lot of work.

Joe Rogan 6:40 See, let's see what's up. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 6:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:43 Let's see what new information you get. You'll tell me, right?

Bridget Phetasy 6:45 Uh-huh. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:46 (laughs) You'll get the new memos. You, you'll be part of that Proton Mail list.

Bridget Phetasy 6:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:51 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 6:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:54 But, um-

Bridget Phetasy 6:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:55 ... he, he had to work really hard at it. I, and I met a lady he was converting too. I was doing a show once for, uh, SyFy, where I, I just talk... I, I was, like, trying to get people to con- ... Maybe it was for The Man Show. I don't remember what it was for, but-

Bridget Phetasy 7:06 Wait, were you on The Man Show?

Joe Rogan 7:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah, with Doug Stanhope.

Bridget Phetasy 7:08 I was an extra on The Man Show.

Joe Rogan 7:09 I was in the second generation that really wasn't very good.

Bridget Phetasy 7:11 Oh, right. Okay. I was in the fir- ... I was an extra in the first. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:15 But what we were trying to do is I was trying to get people to convert me.

Bridget Phetasy 7:19 Okay.

Joe Rogan 7:19 So, I'd, I'd go to all these different religious groups and say, like, "Try to keep..."

Bridget Phetasy 7:23 It was pretty easy, was it? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:24 ... tell me ... Well, what ... And it's just like, I wanna know who's getting the best deal.

Bridget Phetasy 7:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:27 Like, what sounds the best? And-

Bridget Phetasy 7:29 You're like, "Everyone got me."

Joe Rogan 7:30 It made ... It opened my eyes. It did, because I, I got to see what I, I believe are genuinely kind people-

Bridget Phetasy 7:38 Mm.

Joe Rogan 7:38 ... who want a, a good result for human, human beings. They really do, and they ... A lot of 'em really, genuinely believe that their structure, their ideology and way of thinking is the really, the path to happiness, which is ultimately, like, the path to God. You know, without, you know, breaking it down to cult-like thinking and how people get absorbed in ideas that are untenable, that just don't make any sense, they're completely ridiculous, but they st- ... Like, scientifically-minded people attach themselves to that, if it's a part of their religion. Without that, what everybody wants is something good, and they think that the way to have something good for the people that join is to, like, sort of demonize the people that aren't joining or demonize the other ones. And it, it's a tribal thing. But it's just, like, all these little patterns of human thinking that we have. People have it with everything. You, you see it with cellphones. You know, you see it with Android people versus iPhone people. It's just a normal human tribal characteristic that's embedded in our DNA, that if we don't address and recognize we're not gonna overcome the hurdle, because we're kinda pretending as if it doesn't exist and as if your side is right and the other side is wrong-

Bridget Phetasy 8:54 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 8:54 ... and, and not just looking at it like, "Oh, we're stuck in a, a blue versus red, white versus black, one versus zero." It's just a tribal thing that exists in the way we operate. And we have to be aware of it and not get mad at people for, for f- falling into it, because it's normal to fall into it. It's literally a pattern that's do- ... Embedded in the code that makes you a human being. It's how we created cities.

Bridget Phetasy 9:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:21 It's why we're here today.

Bridget Phetasy 9:23 It's interesting, because I've been reading that, rereading my favorite book, Trickster Makes This World, and how the trickster-

Joe Rogan 9:30 What is that b- ... Who wrote that?

Bridget Phetasy 9:31 Uh, Lewis Hyde. It's all about trick-

Joe Rogan 9:33 What a great title.

Bridget Phetasy 9:33 Oh, it's so good. But it's, um, I ... It saved me at a point, because I didn't really ... I, I had a hard time, and I think this is, this is where, like, Jordan Peterson is so good talking about archetypes, knowing kind of the archetypes. And I didn't really know my role, and I read this book, and I was like, "Oh."

Joe Rogan 9:50 Can you tell me the name of it again? I wanna get it.

Bridget Phetasy 9:51 Trickster Makes This World.

Joe Rogan 9:53 Trickster Makes This World.

Bridget Phetasy 9:54 It's so brilliant. But there-

Joe Rogan 9:56 Sounds cool. (laughs) What a great title.

Bridget Phetasy 9:57 Um, actually, one of the quotes that I put in your card is from that book, and it's a f-

Joe Rogan 10:01 Really?

Bridget Phetasy 10:01 ... my favorite, one of my favorite quotes ever. It's all about, "He who dupes others and who ... Is also duped himself. He's creator nor destroyer." It's like, this is ... The people I've noticed who have stayed the most, I mean, sane, is a term I'm using loosely, the people I've noticed, it's, like, comedians, people who are kinda like tricksters.

Joe Rogan 10:24 Mm-hmm.

Bridget Phetasy 10:24 They have managed to kind of ride the waves of the past eight years, because I think they're not too attached. And in this book, he talks about how it was ... There was all this trickster, trickster mythology, like Coyote and Hermes, and then it got kind of turned into the devil, and it became evil versus good. And when that happened, when, when the loss of that mythology in the culture happened, it became much more black-and-white and, like, this kind of, you know, dualistic, like you said, tribal thinking without all of-

Joe Rogan 10:58 Mm.

Bridget Phetasy 10:58 ... this gray area that I do feel like I look around, like malice, and all the pe- ... They're n- ... Most of the people who I've been hanging out with and know have been kinda having a blast for, like, eight years.

Joe Rogan 11:13 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 11:13 You know? Like, everyone ... First, I watched everyone on the left lose their mind, then people on the right lost their ...

Joe Rogan 11:19 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 11:19 It was like I was having the same conversations for four years with the left, then it was like, all the people on the right and I was, "It's gonna be fine. It's not the end of the world." And then here we are again. Here we are again.

Joe Rogan 11:30 Yeah. "Here we are again." And the only people that make any sense are the ones who aren't on either team. The, the, the people that say things like, "You know, as a conservative, I blah."

Bridget Phetasy 11:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:42 Blah. (laughs) You're a fucking human being. Don't, don't say it that way.

Bridget Phetasy 11:48 And-

Joe Rogan 11:48 Don't think it that way. There's a b- ... There's a bunch of things that you believe, but don't put yourself in a fucking group, 'cause there's probably a bunch of stuff that the left agrees with that you would probably agree with too.

Bridget Phetasy 12:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:00 And you can't be ... You can't b- be resistant to those ideas simply because they're attached to people you've decided are the enemy, 'cause you might ... They might be right.

Bridget Phetasy 12:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:10 They might be right about welfare, right? They might be right about ha- ... "Hey, maybe kids shouldn't ever be fucking starving." You know? As a group, as a group of humans that live together on this one little patch of dirt called North America, maybe we should agree that since we have this gigantic amount of money that no kids should be hungry.

Bridget Phetasy 12:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:28 How about that? And then, since we got that done, hey, how about regular people?

Bridget Phetasy 12:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:32 How about no people should fucking starve?

Bridget Phetasy 12:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:35 Rega- regardless of whether or not you think people are lazy or this and that, how much would we solve if no one could possibly starve?

Bridget Phetasy 12:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:43 We set up free restaurants or free kitchens-

Bridget Phetasy 12:46 We have them.

Joe Rogan 12:46 ... in every city.

Bridget Phetasy 12:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:47 We have. We should have really good ones and massive ones.

Bridget Phetasy 12:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:51 Like, for real, like, food should be free.... for a lot of people.

Bridget Phetasy 12:55 Yeah, I think they're-

Joe Rogan 12:56 If we're this rich as a country...

Bridget Phetasy 12:58 We're pretty rich.

Joe Rogan 12:59 So, let's have nobody s- no babies starve, no babies be malnourished, nobody starves to death, but then-

Bridget Phetasy 13:04 And health too, healthcare-

Joe Rogan 13:06 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 13:06 ... would be-

Joe Rogan 13:06 100%.

Bridget Phetasy 13:07 ... like you shouldn't be going bankrupt.

Joe Rogan 13:08 But you have to revamp the whole thing.

Bridget Phetasy 13:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:10 You'd have to, you would have to get to the real nitty-gritty, like, "Why are you prescribing this?"

Bridget Phetasy 13:15 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:15 Like, "Who's making money off of this? How did this happen? How many ads did you guys run? What did the ad say?"

Bridget Phetasy 13:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:20 You know, like, what is (laughs) , what are the studies? What are all the studies?

Bridget Phetasy 13:24 Uh...

Joe Rogan 13:24 Not just the ones you submitted. What's the actual data instead of the data that's reviewed by the pharmaceutical company and then given to the scientists in the report?

Bridget Phetasy 13:34 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:34 When they do their peer review. When that was explained to me, I was like, "Uh, ah, y- y- ... You guys are making too much money. You're getting crazy."

Bridget Phetasy 13:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:41 This is what it is. You went, you went above and beyond the rules because you have too much power and influence. But also, you do great stuff.

Bridget Phetasy 13:48 Yeah, they do.

Joe Rogan 13:49 It's like, also, they make life-saving, saving drugs.

Bridget Phetasy 13:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:52 Also, they stop a lot of diseases also. See, like, there's a lot of good there.

Bridget Phetasy 13:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:57 And you can't say, "The pharmaceutical drug companies are all evil." Bitch, they keep us alive in a lot of respects.

Bridget Phetasy 14:03 Yeah, they do. They do.

Joe Rogan 14:04 They keep people healthy. They've saved people from depression. There's, like, a lot of good that pharmaceutical drugs and the drug companies have done. They've saved people who have diabetes. There's a lot of good.

Bridget Phetasy 14:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:15 A lot of good. So, to say that they're all evil. No, it's fucking money people.

Bridget Phetasy 14:19 It's easier to do that though too, because you don't have to really come up with a solution if everyone's just at each other's throats.

Joe Rogan 14:26 Well, there's not enough oversight. If there was real oversight, objective oversight by people who actually knew what they were doing, they would never let them get away with pres- prescribing a bunch of stuff that they knew was gonna have a negative effect. Like, the, like, the Vioxx scandal. Like, that's-

Bridget Phetasy 14:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 14:41 ... part of the whole scandal was that they knew that people were gonna have these effects, these side effects that were very bad.

Bridget Phetasy 14:47 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:47 They knew it. They talked about it in emails, these knuckleheads.

Bridget Phetasy 14:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:51 They're just fucking so stupid. They said they, they were gonna have some problems, but we also think we're gonna do well.

Bridget Phetasy 14:57 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:57 They're explaining all the, like, you know, cardiopulmonary, cardiovascular, all, all these different blood clotting problems.

Bridget Phetasy 15:03 I'm so glad I don't-

Joe Rogan 15:04 I have a friend who had a fucking stroke when he took that stuff.

Bridget Phetasy 15:06 No.

Joe Rogan 15:07 He was in his 30s.

Bridget Phetasy 15:08 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 15:08 Yeah, he was in his 30s, a martial arts champion.

Bridget Phetasy 15:11 Ugh. Yeah, I don't, I- I'm glad I'm kind of stupid and I just am like a clown.

Joe Rogan 15:17 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 15:17 I don't, I'm not, like, smart enough to fix these problems. I can, I can observe them and experience them on my own and see that it does behoove these people to just have everybody fighting so that they don't actually have to come up with, like, pol- politicians in particular, they don't have to come up with real solutions. They can just be like, "It's the other guy," forever.

Joe Rogan 15:38 Ha- have you ever lived in a house that has black mold?

Bridget Phetasy 15:41 No, thank God, because that shit will, um-

Joe Rogan 15:44 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 15:44 ... destroy you.

Joe Rogan 15:45 It'll destroy you.

Bridget Phetasy 15:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:47 Um, I, I've had a couple friends who have had problems with black mold, and it's really interesting. And usually what happens is they get sick, and they're sick all the time.

Bridget Phetasy 15:56 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 15:56 And they can't figure out why they're sick.

Bridget Phetasy 15:58 And they're tired.

Joe Rogan 15:58 They're really tired.

Bridget Phetasy 15:59 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 15:59 They're just worn out all the time. And then finally they get their house examined, and, uh, and somebody probably suggested to them, and then, "Oh, Jesus Christ, your walls are filled with black mold." And a lot of times it's, like, a leaky pipe or something, a leaky pipe, and there's water in the walls and all the moisture.

Bridget Phetasy 16:15 Right.

Joe Rogan 16:15 And in Texas, it gets crazy. They get it, they get it bad out here. But w- when you have that, you have to burn the fucking house down essentially.

Bridget Phetasy 16:25 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:25 You have to, like, cut out all the walls. Like, it's a very invasive process. Remember that guy, Tom Leykis? Do you remember Tom Leykis, who was a radio DJ in, uh, LA?

Bridget Phetasy 16:35 He sounds familiar.

Joe Rogan 16:36 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 16:36 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:37 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 16:37 Yep, yep, yep.

Joe Rogan 16:38 Yeah. He had, like, Flash Fridays, where girls-

Bridget Phetasy 16:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:40 ... would pull their tits out.

Bridget Phetasy 16:41 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:41 He would tell people they're useless on the phone.

Bridget Phetasy 16:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:44 Uh, you remember that guy?

Bridget Phetasy 16:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:45 Um, he had that. That happened to him. And, uh, he was explaining it to me. He said it was horrific, that, like, he's just sick all the time, couldn't figure out-

Bridget Phetasy 16:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:51 ... what was up.

Bridget Phetasy 16:52 And it's hard to get out of your system.

Joe Rogan 16:54 Yep. Hard to get out of your system. It wrecks your health, and it takes a long time to recover just from the effects of it. It's essentially a breathing poison every day.

Bridget Phetasy 17:01 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:01 And who knows what it actually does overall that you're not gonna recover from. Like, it might c- it might actually take, like, years off your life. Like, who knows? But the point was, it's really hard to get rid of it. You gotta... It's so invasive. And I think that's where money is today. Money is with pharmaceutical drugs. Money is with politics. It's like, we could all agree, I think we could all agree that, uh, the way the pharmaceutical drug companies should work is they should be very careful about what they prescribe, and they should be very careful about side effects, and they should be very careful about what is addictive and not addictive and what should be prescribed openly and regularly and what should not be in- for the greater good of humanity. And if, even if they did that, even if they did that, they would still make ungodly amounts of money. That's what's so crazy about all this.

Bridget Phetasy 17:50 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:50 But it wouldn't be the maximum amount of money. And when you have a publicly shared company, it's your responsibility to the shareholders to make the most money.

Bridget Phetasy 17:58 Yep.

Joe Rogan 17:58 And you make more money every quarter.

Bridget Phetasy 17:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:00 You wanna, you wanna keep going. Let's go, let's go, let's fucking go. Let's go. And if you're-

Bridget Phetasy 18:04 That's right, planes are fl- falling out of the sky. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:06 It's also why you get a private jet-

Bridget Phetasy 18:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:07 ... is you gotta, "Let's fucking go." Like, (laughs) and the thing is, it-

Bridget Phetasy 18:11 I need a private jet. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:12 That's been attached, unfortunately, to our health. And then you get people that am- you know, they fucking advocate for public health, and they look super unhealthy.

Bridget Phetasy 18:21 Always.

Joe Rogan 18:21 And they're telling you that the only solution is bang, bang, bang. And the only solution is generally tied to something that they have invested in.

Bridget Phetasy 18:27 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:28 It's fucking crazy. But it's black mold. It's black mold.

Bridget Phetasy 18:31 It is.

Joe Rogan 18:32 That's what it is. And it's-

Bridget Phetasy 18:33 And, like, the-

Joe Rogan 18:33 ... it shouldn't exist.

Bridget Phetasy 18:34 ... the, like, the resistance to getting stock trading out of politi- you know, the, like, you shouldn't be able to affect the stock and trade on it, the policy about s- a company, and then be able to make... It's, like, crazy-

Joe Rogan 18:49 Millions and millions of money.

Bridget Phetasy 18:50 ... to me.

Joe Rogan 18:51 D- have you seen the Nancy Pelosi one, where they question her? Have you ever see-

Bridget Phetasy 18:54 Never s- no.

Joe Rogan 18:54 You never saw it?

Bridget Phetasy 18:55 No. I feel like-

Joe Rogan 18:55 Oh my God, you have to see it.

Bridget Phetasy 18:55 ... maybe I have seen it.

Joe Rogan 18:57 Find it. But you see, it's fucking amazing, 'cause she's all stammering. She looks like she's a little drunk already. And then they, they hit her with it, and she's like, "Huh? Wha- what? Oh."

Bridget Phetasy 19:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:06 "I think we should be able to participate." But it's just-

Bridget Phetasy 19:08 Oh, I think she... I have seen this.

Joe Rogan 19:10 It's, it's amazing.

Bridget Phetasy 19:11 She-

Joe Rogan 19:11 It's amazing how badly she handles it.

Bridget Phetasy 19:13 They, they're, they're so rich. It's crazy that-

Joe Rogan 19:16 Crazy rich.

Bridget Phetasy 19:18 ... how are you hundred millionaires? You get paid like- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:20 $170,000 a year. And you're worth hundreds of billions of dollars. That is so wild.

Bridget Phetasy 19:26 It is very Rome-esque, you know? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:28 It's amazing. It's amazing they do it right in front of you.

Bridget Phetasy 19:31 Yeah, I don't even care. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:31 Like, "I'm not jerking off, I'm not jerking off, it's raining out." They just-

Bridget Phetasy 19:34 They come right in your face and they're like, "Suck it."

Joe Rogan 19:36 (laughs) The whole thing is so crazy.

Bridget Phetasy 19:38 It's so crazy.

Joe Rogan 19:39 It's so crazy because there's so many of them and then nobody talks about it. The other ones don't talk about it 'cause then you look at the list and it's, like, blocks-

Bridget Phetasy 19:45 It's bipartisan.

Joe Rogan 19:46 It's b- yeah, it's bl- here we go, it's blue, it's red.

Bridget Phetasy 19:50 Yeah, the, it's-

Joe Rogan 19:50 It's, some of the Republicans are making the most.

Bridget Phetasy 19:52 Oh, yeah.

Narrator 19:52 ... Congress and their spouses be banned from trading individual stocks while serving in Congress?

19:57 No, I don't, no to the s- second one. Um, any, uh, we have a responsibility to report in the stock, on the stock, but I don't, I'm not familiar with that-

Bridget Phetasy 20:08 (laughs)

Narrator 20:08 ... five-month-

Joe Rogan 20:09 What?

Narrator 20:09 ... review. But if, uh, people aren't reporting, they should be.

Bridget Phetasy 20:14 (laughs) Yeah.

Narrator 20:14 Why should they be banned?

20:16 Because this is a free market and people, we have a free market economy, they should be able to participate in that.

Bridget Phetasy 20:22 That's such bullshit.

Joe Rogan 20:23 He d- yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 20:24 Like, saying that it's a free market-

Joe Rogan 20:27 It's not a fr-

Bridget Phetasy 20:27 ... when you're manipu- when you know-

Joe Rogan 20:30 You're gonna pass laws and those laws are gonna affect the company, it's gonna make the stock go up.

Bridget Phetasy 20:33 Like-

Joe Rogan 20:34 Like, that's crazy.

Bridget Phetasy 20:36 Okay, yeah, that is a free market, I guess, for you.

Joe Rogan 20:39 I, it's not that.

Bridget Phetasy 20:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:39 It's free for you. Like, that's crazy. If you, if you could fucking go to jail for insider trading-

Bridget Phetasy 20:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:44 ... like, what is that? What, come on, what is that?

Bridget Phetasy 20:47 You know Martha Stewart's watching this like, "These motherfuckers."

Joe Rogan 20:50 Well, we figured that out the other day. Martha Stewart did not go to jail for insider trading. She went i- to jail for lying to, uh, an investigator.

Bridget Phetasy 20:57 Oh.

Joe Rogan 20:57 She was lying under oath.

Bridget Phetasy 20:58 They all lie, though. She's lying right now.

Joe Rogan 21:00 Either lie, was she lying, was she lying under oath or was she just lying when questioned?

Narrator 21:04 Uh, yeah, something like that, yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:06 Something like that.

Narrator 21:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:07 Yeah, something like that, so that's why she went to jail for it. But that's, like, a little trick they do. You know, they get you to start talking, and then, you know, you don't tell the truth about something. "Have you ever talked to Doug? Do you know Doug?"

Bridget Phetasy 21:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:19 "Doug? Who's Doug?" (laughs) Right away, you're lying. Right away, you're lying.

Bridget Phetasy 21:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:25 And I, for her, I don't even think it was a lot of money, which is really crazy. She would've only lost, like, a certain amount of money.

Bridget Phetasy 21:31 (laughs) If you were talking to Doug.

Joe Rogan 21:31 And she's super duper rich. Yeah, you're like, "Huh? Who the fuck is Doug?"

Bridget Phetasy 21:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:35 "Fucking, what?"

Bridget Phetasy 21:36 Like, "You're lying."

Joe Rogan 21:37 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 21:37 "We see you texting Doug right here."

Joe Rogan 21:40 Oh, no.

Bridget Phetasy 21:41 Not Doug.

Joe Rogan 21:41 And then you think, like, Signal is really encrypted.

Bridget Phetasy 21:43 I thought his, his name was Douglas.

Joe Rogan 21:45 They're showing you the fucking things from Signal. "Why were you doing it on an encrypted app?" (laughs) "How did you read it? Wait a minute."

Bridget Phetasy 21:53 Just ridiculous.

Joe Rogan 21:54 Do you believe any of these apps are really, truly encrypted?

Bridget Phetasy 21:57 No. No, none of them are encrypted. They're all CIA honey pots. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:00 I think they are... They're all honey pots. I think they are encrypted, but I don't think that matters to the fucking CIA or the NSA or whoever wants to read your shit.

Bridget Phetasy 22:08 That's like this fucking shooter. I was like, "Give me whatever phone that kid has."

Joe Rogan 22:10 "Oh, we can't get into it. Yeah, we can't get into his phone." Like, what the fuck are you talking about, bitch? You can't get into Elon Musk's phone.

Narrator 22:15 They got into it, uh, not, they couldn't get into it on the field, but they went back to Quantico and got the software update.

Bridget Phetasy 22:21 They got it.

Narrator 22:21 And then they got into it like an app.

Joe Rogan 22:22 Oh, it's a software update.

Bridget Phetasy 22:23 (laughs)

Narrator 22:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:23 The old software update. That's what they're calling it these days. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 22:28 The software-

Joe Rogan 22:30 The software update.

Narrator 22:30 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 22:30 That's why, that's how they crashed all the planes the other day or whatever.

Joe Rogan 22:33 Oh, my God.

Bridget Phetasy 22:34 Like, they were like, "Oh, it was a software update." I'm like, "That, it took one software update to, like, stop all global flights?"

Joe Rogan 22:41 Yeah. I read, like, the ultimate of ultimate conspiracies.

Bridget Phetasy 22:44 Oh, I wanna hear it.

Joe Rogan 22:45 That the company-

Bridget Phetasy 22:46 Give it to me.

Joe Rogan 22:46 Please, please let l- America know I've done zero research into this.

Bridget Phetasy 22:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:50 And I just saw a tweet, and the tweet was essentially saying that it, it was, uh, that this company was owned by a Ukrainian billionaire.

Bridget Phetasy 23:01 Oh, here we go. It's Zelensky.

Joe Rogan 23:02 That this company that, what's it called? CrowdStrike?

Narrator 23:06 CrowdStrike. CrowdStrike.

Joe Rogan 23:06 That crashed the entire internet for all the fucking airlines. (laughs) Was owned by some rich Ukrainian guy. This was like this grand, grand conspirator. There's so many good conspiracies going on.

Bridget Phetasy 23:18 There's so many good ones.

Joe Rogan 23:18 If you're into conspiracies, it's like murder mystery podcasts.

Bridget Phetasy 23:21 No, it's like that-

Joe Rogan 23:22 They're, they're everywhere.

Bridget Phetasy 23:22 ... that meme with the guy from where it's like, "Ah!"

Joe Rogan 23:26 There's so many.

Bridget Phetasy 23:27 And by the way-

Joe Rogan 23:28 There's so many.

Bridget Phetasy 23:28 ... so many of them have become... So, I had-

Joe Rogan 23:31 How about the phone call?

Bridget Phetasy 23:32 Which phone call?

Joe Rogan 23:33 The phone call with Kamala Harris and, and, and he's on speakerphone.

Bridget Phetasy 23:36 Oh.

Joe Rogan 23:36 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 23:36 But they found him now.

Joe Rogan 23:38 Allegedly.

Bridget Phetasy 23:39 No, there, there's video.

Joe Rogan 23:41 Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

Bridget Phetasy 23:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:44 Listen, I'm not saying that-

Bridget Phetasy 23:45 I am so turned on by chaos, though. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:47 ... I'm not saying that he's, he's not really, that's not really Joe Biden, that's a guy in a CIA makeup suit walking up the stairs. I'm not saying that. But they can do that.

Bridget Phetasy 23:57 Wait, so what's the conspiracy about CrowdStrike-

Joe Rogan 23:59 You know they can do that now.

Bridget Phetasy 24:00 ... that, I don't understand?

Joe Rogan 24:01 That it's, that, oh, well, I don't know. I didn't read into it.

Bridget Phetasy 24:03 I know. I never do, uh-

Joe Rogan 24:04 That it's owned by some Ukrainian billionaire that's like, "Did you know that this is, uh, there's ties to Joe Biden and z- z- z- z- Ukraine?"

Bridget Phetasy 24:11 And I love how it's, like, telephone.

Joe Rogan 24:13 And Hunter Biden and fucking her and there's Ghislaine Maxwell in the planes. And it's like, Jesus Christ. I can't keep up with this season.

Bridget Phetasy 24:22 I can't, I-

Joe Rogan 24:23 This season, every night when they, the episode ends-

Bridget Phetasy 24:25 It's jump the shark.

Joe Rogan 24:26 ... I, I sit in my couch and I go, "What are they gonna do next?"

Bridget Phetasy 24:29 You're like, "I'm afraid to turn it off." I was talking to my sister on the way and I was like, and she was going off about something. And (laughs) she's like, I was like, "Oh, did you see that this kid might've had ties to the FBI?" She's like, "He did?" I'm like, "I don't know. I saw a tweet, but I'm just gonna tell you that he did."

Joe Rogan 24:47 Yeah, let's, let's send it to Jamie for further investigation. So the allegation is that this kid had been visited multiple times-

Bridget Phetasy 24:56 (laughs) But-

Joe Rogan 24:56 See, they got cellphone data. So they got geo-tracking data. And some phone call had, some phone had been visiting him and going back to Washington DC on multiple times. And that this, this-

Bridget Phetasy 25:13 They got him.

Joe Rogan 25:13 ... thing had been happening near the, uh, FBI location.... where I know I have it here somewhere. I know I have it saved. But goddamn it, so many people are sending me this shit today-

Bridget Phetasy 25:25 I'm sure.

Joe Rogan 25:25 ... that I can't keep up.

Bridget Phetasy 25:26 I'm sure.

Joe Rogan 25:27 Yeah. Oh, it was Tim. Tim sent it. Here-

Bridget Phetasy 25:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:29 ... let me send it to you. Me and Tim Dillon are going back and forth all day on conspiracies.

Bridget Phetasy 25:34 Yeah. (laughs) That's like Landau and I. Dave Landau-

Joe Rogan 25:36 Oh, yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 25:36 ... all day long, we're just like-

Joe Rogan 25:37 He's a fun dude.

Bridget Phetasy 25:38 Oh, my God, my favorite human, one of my favorite humans. He's just a good... Like, he... When I got back into comedy, he started letting me open for him and his crowds are amazing, first of all. The guy's been on the road for, like, 20 years. But watching him, it, it's like he's good at everything. I don't understand. He's good at act outs. He's good at crowd work. He's good at, like, coming up with shit that day from the news cycle. Like, the guy is like... It, it's actually, he's one of the most underrated comics.

Joe Rogan 26:08 Well, I think there's a lot of comics that for, for whatever reason, they never caught a break. They never caught a thing that got them out there, that people got to see him but they're really good.

Bridget Phetasy 26:19 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 26:19 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 26:19 He's, he's doing Mothership though. I'm excited.

Joe Rogan 26:21 Oh, yeah. He's doing it, um, the weekend a friend of mine was going 'cause she was-

Bridget Phetasy 26:24 I'm opening for him.

Joe Rogan 26:24 ... she was telling me that, that it's in October?

Bridget Phetasy 26:26 It's the end of the, of August.

Joe Rogan 26:28 Oh.

Bridget Phetasy 26:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:30 Right, right, right.

Bridget Phetasy 26:31 Last weekend in August.

Joe Rogan 26:32 That's right. September 1st is the, when my friend's going.

Bridget Phetasy 26:34 Yeah. It's gonna be fun.

Joe Rogan 26:35 Yes.

Bridget Phetasy 26:36 He's, he's just, like, a joy to watch. And his humor's so dark. He's-

Joe Rogan 26:39 Well, he's a good dude to hang out with too.

Bridget Phetasy 26:40 He's so good.

Joe Rogan 26:41 Oh, here it is.

Bridget Phetasy 26:42 He's a good person.

Joe Rogan 26:42 So, oh, my God, this needs to be shared everywhere immediately.

Bridget Phetasy 26:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:45 The Heritage Foundation... First of all, red flags-

Bridget Phetasy 26:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:48 ... all over the place. First of all, who the fuck is the... What's The Heritage Foundation?

Bridget Phetasy 26:52 They're like the, you know, Project 2025 people, I think.

Joe Rogan 26:55 Oh, I love it.

Bridget Phetasy 26:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:57 There, they, they, they got Jesus on speed dial. The Heritage Foundation just released cellphone data of a mysterious figure who made frequent trips between Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks' home and a building in DC near an FBI office. Well, you know what? My house is, uh-

Bridget Phetasy 27:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:13 ... fairly close to a taco deli, but-

Bridget Phetasy 27:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:16 ... there's really no connection. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 27:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:19 What does that mean? You know what I'm saying?

Bridget Phetasy 27:21 I love it.

Joe Rogan 27:21 Uh, nine devices were identified in the analysis linking to both his home and work. Oh.

Narrator 27:27 How does that data get out?

Bridget Phetasy 27:29 Well, no. So-

Joe Rogan 27:29 Well, let's find out, Jamie.

Narrator 27:30 How crazy. I'm curious.

Bridget Phetasy 27:30 So here's the thing. When they... I had this guy on my podcast, Walk-Ins Welcome, back during the BLM stuff, and he said all of it-

Joe Rogan 27:41 Jamie, get back to... Put, open the link.

Narrator 27:43 There's no link on it.

Joe Rogan 27:44 There's no link?

Narrator 27:44 No. I went to-

Joe Rogan 27:45 That's-

Narrator 27:45 ... this oversight committee's page. I was looking for their original tweets about it.

Joe Rogan 27:48 Do they have, um... The Heritage Foundation has a, a post about it on their website?

Narrator 27:52 I never saw from Heritage Foundation. I only saw this-

Joe Rogan 27:54 Can you go there without catching braces? (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 27:56 Oh, you know the guy I had? Coach T.

Joe Rogan 27:58 Oh, okay, yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 27:58 So I had him on my podcast and he said all the guys who were marching in BLM were either homosexuals (laughs) or actors. He's like, "There are no Black men who are marching in this." And it, he was like, not like, like, heterosexual Black men.

Joe Rogan 28:14 That's hilarious.

Bridget Phetasy 28:14 He said this. I lost a sponsor for it.

Joe Rogan 28:17 Whoa. 'Cause Coach T said that, you lost a sponsor?

Bridget Phetasy 28:19 Yeah. 'Cause they were like-

Joe Rogan 28:20 What, are you supposed to edit that out?

Bridget Phetasy 28:21 (laughs) I don't know.

Narrator 28:22 Can people have opinions?

Bridget Phetasy 28:23 Well, he's a Black man. He can't say what he-

Joe Rogan 28:25 Yeah. Also, he's funny. Saying something funny.

Bridget Phetasy 28:26 He's also hilarious and-

Joe Rogan 28:27 And you probably laughed when he said it, right?

Bridget Phetasy 28:28 ... then the cellphone data came out because they can track all of us all the time, and it turned out it was like, he was deadly accurate. It was like- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:38 (laughs) Misinformation. Or the, you know what they call that?

Bridget Phetasy 28:40 He said, "Are people confused about their identity?" That's what he said. (laughs) He said-

Narrator 28:43 Shh.

Bridget Phetasy 28:44 ... people in, people in entertainment, homosexuals, or people confused about their identity. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:50 That's hilarious.

Bridget Phetasy 28:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:52 What is this, Jamie?

Narrator 28:52 Heritage Foundation tweeted this Oversight project thing that says, "Assassination info drop." And, uh-

Joe Rogan 28:59 So it says, "4 hours of Congressional testimony later and we still have more information about the assassination attempt on former President Trump from X and Oversight PR than the Secret Service, DHS, or the FBI. We found the assassin's connections through our in-depth analysis of mobile ad data"-

Bridget Phetasy 29:18 Yeah, you can get this.

Narrator 29:18 "... tracker to track the movements of Crooks and his associates."

Bridget Phetasy 29:21 What?

Joe Rogan 29:22 "To do this, we tracked devices that regularly visited both Crooks' home and place of work and followed them." So you're... Think about what they're saying here though. Analysis of mobile ad data?

Bridget Phetasy 29:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:33 So the ads are tracking you every-

Bridget Phetasy 29:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:36 ... step of the way, wherever you are.

Bridget Phetasy 29:38 When my husband-

Joe Rogan 29:39 And it's just open about it.

Bridget Phetasy 29:40 When my husband was cer... I... The ads, like, outed my husband looking for a ring for me. I started getting ads for rings.

Joe Rogan 29:49 Oh, no. No, no, no.

Bridget Phetasy 29:50 It's creepy shit.

Joe Rogan 29:51 Well, we were talking about the other day, Jamie. What was it? Oh, purses. So someone was explaining to me. My, my wife was explaining to me, like, what purses and why people like certain purses. And-

Bridget Phetasy 30:00 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:01 ... some purses are, like-

Bridget Phetasy 30:02 Like all the brands.

Joe Rogan 30:03 ... exclusive.

Bridget Phetasy 30:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 30:04 Like, you have to develop a relationship with a-

Bridget Phetasy 30:06 They're an investment. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:06 Yeah, you have to develop a relationship with the person selling the purse in order to get one of those purses.

Bridget Phetasy 30:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:10 You can't even get the ones that are on the shelf. I can't go buy that?

Bridget Phetasy 30:12 No.

Joe Rogan 30:13 Like, it's like Rolexes like that.

Bridget Phetasy 30:14 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:14 If you go into a Rolex store, you can't just buy a Rolex. They're like, "No, no, no, sir."

Bridget Phetasy 30:18 No.

Joe Rogan 30:18 "We don't have anything for sale."

Bridget Phetasy 30:19 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 30:19 But you have a giant store. What the fuck is this? So I was talking about it with her-

Bridget Phetasy 30:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:22 ... and then all of a sudden, I started getting these purse ads-

Bridget Phetasy 30:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:25 ... on my w- my-

Bridget Phetasy 30:26 She knows what she's doing.

Joe Rogan 30:26 ... Google. So it's listening.

Bridget Phetasy 30:28 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:28 But it's just listening.

Bridget Phetasy 30:29 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:30 And, you know, we just accept that.

Bridget Phetasy 30:31 But it also knows who's in the same-

Joe Rogan 30:33 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 30:34 ... room together.

Joe Rogan 30:34 Right, right, right.

Bridget Phetasy 30:34 So it knew my husband was looking for rings for me, and then I started getting ads for the ring.

Joe Rogan 30:40 It's a rat. It's a dirty rat.

Bridget Phetasy 30:41 It's a fucking rat.

Joe Rogan 30:42 But the thing is, like, how do they get that data?

Bridget Phetasy 30:45 That's... I think that's, like, the, the-

Joe Rogan 30:46 Publicly available?

Bridget Phetasy 30:47 Yeah, I th- a lot of it, I think, or you pay. I-

Narrator 30:50 I think you pay.

Bridget Phetasy 30:51 I think you pay.

Joe Rogan 30:51 So you can pay and then plug in a phone number?

Narrator 30:54 I've, I've thought about asking if we can do an investigation like this just for funzies to see, like, what data can we get-

Joe Rogan 30:59 Yeah, let's do that.

Narrator 31:00 ... and like, who can we-

Joe Rogan 31:00 Let's track Jamie all day long.

Bridget Phetasy 31:01 (laughs)

Narrator 31:01 Well, all right.

Joe Rogan 31:02 Let's see this... which, which massage parlor-

Narrator 31:04 Not me, but-

Joe Rogan 31:04 ... Jamie's going to to get that... (laughs)

Narrator 31:05 We could pick someone and find out.

Bridget Phetasy 31:08 Every other day. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:08 (laughs)

Narrator 31:08 Some willing participant.

Joe Rogan 31:10 If you did... I mean, for real, like, but that's creepy because then they just have to find your phone number, Jamie, and they'll know-

Narrator 31:16 Well, the, uh-

Joe Rogan 31:16 ... what your, your route is-

Narrator 31:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:18 ... based on ad tracking data, which is crazy. That seems like a v- a huge security liability.

Narrator 31:23 I brought up to... I, I was talking to someone out in the lobby, uh, the new Journal app on the iPhone, which is, like, i- probably iOS 17 or 18. It keeps giving me prompts-

Bridget Phetasy 31:32 Oh, fuck that thing.

Narrator 31:33 ... to, like, write, you know, write in your journal.

Bridget Phetasy 31:35 Yeah.

Narrator 31:35 And, like, I was looking through it yesterday. It's broken down by, like, where I go-... what I was doing there.

Bridget Phetasy 31:40 (gasps)

Narrator 31:40 And then it knows. It's like, "Do you wanna write about your golf day-

Bridget Phetasy 31:42 Oh, my God. It's so crazy.

Narrator 31:43 ... at this place for Monday?"

Joe Rogan 31:44 Oh, dirty little spy.

Narrator 31:45 It's like, "You were out to lunch here." Or, like, "How about your day at work with Marshall and the dogs?" It's like, "What the f-"

Joe Rogan 31:49 Dirty little spy.

Narrator 31:50 (laughs) How did you know? I was at work.

Joe Rogan 31:51 Dirty little spy.

Bridget Phetasy 31:52 I wrote a whole piece about those menstrual tracking apps because I had one back when I was dating my husband. And then I was like, "Hey, can I sign you up just to see how weird this is?" And he's like, "This is fucking creepy. I don't wanna know that you're, like, in your luteal phase or whatever and I have to be nice to you." And it, it, like, gives him tips, like, "She would like-" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:12 Oh, no, not tips. You know what would be great though? If you had, like, a real female heavy government and, uh, you know, they would all have coinciding menstrual cycles if they all worked together all the time.

Bridget Phetasy 32:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:23 And then you could, like, get all their data and figure out exactly when the shit is about to hit the fan.

Bridget Phetasy 32:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:29 And you could, like, run the stock market that way. You could, like, make bets. Because when the shit's gonna hit the fan, they're gonna be fucking angry.

Bridget Phetasy 32:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:36 Things are gonna go sideways. You're gonna have a dip in productivity. You're gonna have people resigning. Something's gonna go wrong.

Bridget Phetasy 32:42 This is all the stuff the left is very worried about with, like, JD Vance, 'cause allegedly he's, like, big and... I don't know if this is true. America, I don't know if this is true. He's allegedly into, like, the menstrual tracking and, you know, these billionaires are getting behind these apps so that they can, like... And there's a lot of fear-

Joe Rogan 32:58 Wait, what do, what do they want from them?

Bridget Phetasy 33:00 There's a lot of fear with, like, the states that don't allow abortion because now they wanna, like, pull up your, you know, records and see if you might... I don't fucking know. I read these things and I'm like-

Joe Rogan 33:13 Oh, Jesus.

Bridget Phetasy 33:13 ... I never... I don't know what's true or not or what's just being, like, you, you know, just the, just hyperbolic so that people freak out about this stuff. But there's, there's, um, yeah, there's a whole industry in this now, like, a whole, a whole menstrual tracking...

Joe Rogan 33:29 Jesus Christ.

Bridget Phetasy 33:31 (laughs) I was listening to a podcast the other day and I never knew why women's cycles synced up.

Joe Rogan 33:39 But here's my question. What do they want from it? What do they want from that data?

Bridget Phetasy 33:42 What?

Joe Rogan 33:43 What are these guys that are tracking menstrual cycles-

Bridget Phetasy 33:45 Well, it's generally presented as something that's good for the women because then you can, like, eat and work out with your cycle. Because if you are in perimenopause or premenopause or you're, like, uh, like, in the prime of your life, you wanna do different things at different times in your cycle and different foods are better and...

Joe Rogan 34:02 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 34:02 Like, hormones for women are nuts. Dudes just have, like, what? You've got one? (laughs) You're gonna-

Joe Rogan 34:07 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 34:08 Women have, like, three that are constantly interacting and, and all... It's so, depending on what... They just haven't done as many studies, so now they're trying to say like, "Oh, it's good to know where you are so that you can support yourself." Allegedly all these guys want this for, like, Handmaid's Tale. I don't know.

Joe Rogan 34:26 Yeah, that's what I'm asking.

Bridget Phetasy 34:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:27 Like, what do the guys want it for?

Narrator 34:28 There's-

Bridget Phetasy 34:28 This is a conspiracy.

Narrator 34:29 The, the article I'm reading says that there was a new fin- uh, regulation. HHS finaliz-... A new regulation under HIPAA to limit law enforcement access to medical records tied to reproductive health. So they're, they go all the way down to saying, "Local police agencies might simply take it upon themselves to pull the records to see who had unexplained disruptions in their menstrual cycles, to find out if someone crossed state borders to get an abortion."

Bridget Phetasy 34:50 To go get an abortion.

Joe Rogan 34:52 Whoa.

Bridget Phetasy 34:53 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:54 Okay.

Bridget Phetasy 34:54 It's nuts.

Joe Rogan 34:55 Ooh.

Bridget Phetasy 34:56 Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:58 Oh, my God. Imagine you, your, uh, your own menstrual cycle is in private information.

Bridget Phetasy 35:05 Nothing's private.

Joe Rogan 35:06 But imagine that.

Bridget Phetasy 35:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:08 Imagine, like, someone can sneak in and say, "What happened?" And you have to explain you had a fucking miscarriage to some asshole who's accusing you of driving to Ohio or wherever the fuck you got to go.

Bridget Phetasy 35:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:19 Imagine.

Bridget Phetasy 35:20 I mean, that's the-

Joe Rogan 35:21 Just imagine those conversations if you're a person who had a miscarriage.

Bridget Phetasy 35:25 Oh, yeah. I mean, the-

Joe Rogan 35:25 Like, imagine if you're married.

Bridget Phetasy 35:26 ... the, these are happening.

Joe Rogan 35:27 Imagine if you're married and happy and you were trying to have a kid and you had a miscarriage and some fucking asshole is at your front door-

Bridget Phetasy 35:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:34 ... accusing you of getting an abortion.

Bridget Phetasy 35:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:36 You have to deal with this Christian fucking cult member with a clipboard, you know?

Bridget Phetasy 35:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:43 Aggressively accusing you of killing your baby.

Bridget Phetasy 35:46 Yeah. Yeah.

Narrator 35:47 Uh, it stems from the, what they call the Dobbs decision, which changes the rights of states.

Joe Rogan 35:53 So Dobbs decision tore away the constitutional right to privacy and bodily autonomy by giving states increased rights to limit and even outlaw abortions. Fortunately, the decision did not ban abortions nationwide.

Narrator 36:05 So then, yeah, they were saying that some of these new regulations could allow them to go even further and check, like, do whatever they have to do to check, kind of.

Joe Rogan 36:12 Mm.

Narrator 36:12 They're trying to stop that.

Joe Rogan 36:14 Isn't it crazy that one of our biggest arguments as a country is whether or not you should be allowed to kill a baby?

Bridget Phetasy 36:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:25 Isn't that crazy?

Bridget Phetasy 36:25 I love you. Yeah, I just love you. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:27 That really was... Is what it is.

Bridget Phetasy 36:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:29 You know? And I'm not a, I'm not a pro-life person. I'm not a, I'm not a... I don't think it's my decision. I don't think I have the right. It's too weird.

Bridget Phetasy 36:38 I-

Joe Rogan 36:38 Especially if it's not... I'm not involved, like I'm a politician. I'm looking at, like, a, a person and deciding whether or not they should have to have that baby or not. It's like, it seems crazy because it seems like it's one of those weird human things where are you saying the moment of conception it's a baby? Like, if it's three cells and you know for a fact that that's when it's... That you can't shut that down? Like, you... What... But then if you ever go to the Bodies exhibit, that fucking crazy exhibit that I talk about.

Bridget Phetasy 37:06 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:06 And they have babies. They have babies at every stage and they s-... You see them at six weeks.

Bridget Phetasy 37:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:11 Eight weeks, 10 weeks. First of all, how'd you get those? Right?

Bridget Phetasy 37:16 Don't wanna know. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:16 Yeah. Second of all, it, it re-... It really, like, puts it in perspective and it changes, like, this idea... And you're just putting it in a box, a woman's right to choose. Right, yeah, definitely. Not my, not bad place. But look at that. Look what we're saying. Look what we're saying the choice is. Like, what we... Look what we're, like-

Bridget Phetasy 37:33 I-

Joe Rogan 37:33 ... advocating for.

Bridget Phetasy 37:34 I think most American... Like, the, when you poll Americans, it's very much, I think, where I end up landing, they're squishy on it and it's, like, pro-life.... in the sheet- like, pro-choice in the streets, pro-life in the sheets.

Joe Rogan 37:48 Mm-hmm.

Bridget Phetasy 37:48 Like, a lot of women are like, "I wouldn't get an abortion, but I'm- I don't wanna stop someone else from doing that."

Joe Rogan 37:55 But to hear- and then there's the slippery slope of allowing people to tell you you can't get an abortion, right? Especially allowing men to tell women that they're not even c- remotely connected to, that they can't have an abortion.

Bridget Phetasy 38:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:07 It's like a weird body autonomy thing. And it's like...

Bridget Phetasy 38:10 That's what I mean.

Joe Rogan 38:11 And a lot of them wanna disclude crazy things, like a child that is, like, never gonna live, like, unviable.

Bridget Phetasy 38:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:18 Or it could be a threat to the woman. There's some sort of a medical issue, and it could be a threat to the woman's life unless they abort the baby.

Bridget Phetasy 38:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:25 And even then, they're like, "No, let God sort it out." Like, hey.

Bridget Phetasy 38:28 Well, they'll- they'll make exceptions for this.

Joe Rogan 38:31 But they don't always.

Bridget Phetasy 38:31 Allegedly, but the doctors are worried often about losing their license in states where it's highly regulated.

Joe Rogan 38:37 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 38:37 So you end up-

Joe Rogan 38:38 Sketchy. Scary.

Bridget Phetasy 38:39 Yeah, it's sketchy. And I don't- I don't think, like, you know... It's a slippery slope to, like, get the jab too. You know, you- you- I don't think... You have to have some kind of bodily autonomy, but I understand the argument too from the moral perspective. I had this woman, Ines Steptman, on my podcast, and she's brilliant, and she was like, "You know, it's a hard conversation because it is a moral..." You- it- like, if you're not conflicted about it, you're not thinking deeply about it because it is a life. And as someone like Ben Shapiro would say, "Left untouched, that would be a baby."

Joe Rogan 39:16 Yep.

Bridget Phetasy 39:17 And I think... Was it Burr who had that, like, brilliant bit?

Joe Rogan 39:21 Yeah, brilliant bit.

Bridget Phetasy 39:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:22 Brilliant bit. Yeah. Louis has a brilliant bit on it too. It's, um...

Bridget Phetasy 39:26 It's complicated.

Joe Rogan 39:27 It's complicated.

Bridget Phetasy 39:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:28 There's no getting around that fact.

Bridget Phetasy 39:29 I- I understand the fight for it, you know, if- if that is where you lie.

Joe Rogan 39:33 Yeah, but this thing of having people track your fucking cycle-

Bridget Phetasy 39:38 Yeah, no, the cycle.

Joe Rogan 39:39 ... and seeing a reg- and having, like, crazy, like, bow tie-wearing Christian guys do it.

Bridget Phetasy 39:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:44 You know what I'm saying?

Bridget Phetasy 39:45 I just love that in your mind they're like these, like, "Hello."

Joe Rogan 39:47 Pray the gay away type dudes.

Bridget Phetasy 39:48 (laughs) Pray the gay away.

Joe Rogan 39:49 There's, you know, there's- there's... You know, they can... They mask themselves in a blanket of virtue through religion the same way a lot of woke people do by being mean cunts and thinking they're doing it to be, like, progressive or-

Bridget Phetasy 40:04 Well, they have their own version of pray the gay away.

Joe Rogan 40:05 It's the same th- Yeah, they do. But it- they're doing what they're doing by wrapping themselves up in these ideas of Christianity. It's just allowing, like, people's worst instincts to be able to be justified.

Bridget Phetasy 40:18 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:19 You know, the s- instincts to control people and dominate people and destroy people.

Bridget Phetasy 40:22 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:23 People have weird instincts to just destroy people.

Bridget Phetasy 40:26 Yep. And people do have weird things about women. Like, there is just a very... It is very strange to think... I- I- I don't know. Are there, other than like the jab when people are like, "You gotta get the jab." W- I can't think of... A- a- a... I don't know, and maybe I'm wrong. Is there like a comparable scenario where men's bodies are kind of like this battlefield?

Joe Rogan 40:51 None.

Bridget Phetasy 40:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:52 Nothing, nothing remotely close.

Bridget Phetasy 40:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:54 Nothing's remotely close.

Bridget Phetasy 40:55 And again-

Joe Rogan 40:56 There- no one has any control over men's bodies.

Bridget Phetasy 40:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:58 There's- I mean, the only thing they can tell you is don't take steroids, which they do, you know? So like- but who's going to jail for that?

Bridget Phetasy 41:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:06 And also there's testosterone therapy that people get.

Bridget Phetasy 41:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:09 And that's- it's not steroids, but that's... No one- no one's stopping you from doing that because it's beneficial and helps people.

Bridget Phetasy 41:15 Testosterone sounds awesome.

Joe Rogan 41:16 It's great. It's great stuff.

Bridget Phetasy 41:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:17 It- it- it helps people. It gives... It- it helps your body retain its vitality. And you don't want a broken down, old, fucking shitty body. It's really that simple.

Bridget Phetasy 41:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:25 And everybody attaches testosterone to douchebaggishness, and I totally get- I totally get where they're coming from.

Bridget Phetasy 41:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:32 Douchebaggery, shitty behavior, uh, the unnecessary aggression. Yes, 100%, but not always.

Bridget Phetasy 41:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:39 And it's like all things. It's like, yeah, there- cars. People drive recklessly and they drive drunk and they cause accidents. Right. But not always.

Bridget Phetasy 41:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:47 Right? So let's not ban cars. Let's not- let's not, like, automatically assume that all things masculine are bad.

Bridget Phetasy 41:54 No.

Joe Rogan 41:54 This is a stupid thing.

Bridget Phetasy 41:56 It's so- it's so-

Joe Rogan 41:57 It's so dumb.

Bridget Phetasy 41:57 ... unhealthy too. It's just l- I- I- also, I was having-

Joe Rogan 42:00 Also, ladies, that's what you like.

Bridget Phetasy 42:02 That is what you like.

Joe Rogan 42:03 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 42:03 Ladies.

Joe Rogan 42:04 I know you don't want to admit it, but that's what you like. You just like it when it's nice. That's all it is.

Bridget Phetasy 42:08 Kinda, yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:09 Yeah. You just don't want it mean, you know, and you don't want it ruining civilization. And that's what it does, because it- it ruins civilization. Like if wars were all women, there'd be no fights. There'd be- it'd be very few. There'd be a few brawls in like Wendy's at 2:00 in the morning, but (laughs) there would be no real war.

Bridget Phetasy 42:27 Yeah, but-

Joe Rogan 42:27 It's not the same thing. You know what I'm saying?

Bridget Phetasy 42:29 I- s-

Joe Rogan 42:29 But I'm- I'm saying if there was wars, if- if entire populations were all women, I mean, no men, men don't exist. So women exist only in the form that they exist today, right? Let's pretend they don't need men and they just exist like this. There'd be fucking zero war.

Bridget Phetasy 42:42 What do you think about this argument though that the other thing that's destroying civilization right now is not having enough men dying in wars? (laughs) Boo.

Joe Rogan 42:52 (laughs) Well-

Bridget Phetasy 42:52 Like you have all these men who generally would be kind of sacrificing these wars historically, who are... A- and now they're all just like keyboard warriors who hate... You know, they're incels, basically.

Joe Rogan 43:04 Boo.

Bridget Phetasy 43:04 Like, there's an argument that people make about like, we need to put them back in the coal mines. They need to, like, get back to-

Joe Rogan 43:12 I've got a much easier solution.... jujitsu.

Bridget Phetasy 43:15 Yeah. Or that.

Joe Rogan 43:16 It should be mandatory. You know how you learn how to read? You should learn how to strangle people.

Bridget Phetasy 43:20 Both-

Joe Rogan 43:21 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 43:21 ... bo- both sexes?

Joe Rogan 43:22 Yes, definitely. Well, jujitsu is the absolute best self-defense-

Bridget Phetasy 43:27 For women.

Joe Rogan 43:27 ... for women.

Bridget Phetasy 43:28 Definitely.

Joe Rogan 43:28 100%.

Bridget Phetasy 43:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:29 There are women that are 130 pounds that can put you to fucking sleep-

Bridget Phetasy 43:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:34 ... if you're a big grown man. They will fucking strangle you. They will take your back, you won't be able to stop it, and they will get their hooks in and they'll put you to sleep.

Bridget Phetasy 43:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:42 That's a 100% fact.

Bridget Phetasy 43:44 You just need a fighting chance to get away.

Joe Rogan 43:47 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 43:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:47 But you, you also need to be able to defend yourself. And, like, one of the best things about jujitsu is the guard and learning how to fight off of your back. Now, if you're a woman and some guy takes you down and tackles you, learning how to effectively defend yourself off your back is fucking huge.

Bridget Phetasy 44:03 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:04 It's absolutely huge, because technique can overcome physical strength.

Bridget Phetasy 44:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:09 It really can, especially in that position-

Bridget Phetasy 44:12 I wanna get back into it.

Joe Rogan 44:12 ... because they learn how to shield with their shins, they learn how to grab at the biceps and the shoulders and prevent you from using your strength. They learn how to get underhooks and to go behind you. They, they learn how to defend themselves.

Bridget Phetasy 44:25 Do you know if there's a place in Austin that does, like, women self-defense?

Joe Rogan 44:30 100%.

Bridget Phetasy 44:30 Okay, 'cause I w- I j-

Joe Rogan 44:30 Well, we don't want women's self-defense.

Bridget Phetasy 44:32 Well-

Joe Rogan 44:32 I, I just, I'm, I'm, I'm not disparaging women's self-defense classes, but what my feeling is, is that you should learn how to actually fight.

Bridget Phetasy 44:40 Okay.

Joe Rogan 44:40 I think there's... I used to, to, I used to teach Taekwondo at Boston University, and then they had this women's self-defense class-

Bridget Phetasy 44:47 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 44:47 ... that they were gonna do there too, and I got a chance to watch it. (sighs)

Bridget Phetasy 44:52 Well-

Joe Rogan 44:52 And I was like, "None of this is gonna work. None of this is gonna work."

Bridget Phetasy 44:54 The, the one I was taking at Gracie in Beverly Hills, it was jujitsu, but it was specifically, like, you get grabbed from behind. You get-

Joe Rogan 45:03 Oh yeah, the Gracies do a different thing, though.

Bridget Phetasy 45:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:05 This-

Bridget Phetasy 45:05 So you, you were learning how to fight, but it was specifically, like, generally how... You're in a car. You're-

Joe Rogan 45:11 This is my- this is the reason why I'm saying this. Knowing how to do something is not enough. It's just not enough. You have to train it.

Bridget Phetasy 45:17 Right.

Joe Rogan 45:17 And you have to train it all-

Bridget Phetasy 45:18 It has to be automatic.

Joe Rogan 45:19 It, yes.

Bridget Phetasy 45:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:20 You have to train it all the time.

Bridget Phetasy 45:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:22 If you don't train it all the time, when the thing happens, you'll have to think. You don't wanna have to think, right?

Bridget Phetasy 45:28 No, it has-

Joe Rogan 45:28 One of the best-

Bridget Phetasy 45:28 ... to be like muscle memory.

Joe Rogan 45:30 Yes.

Bridget Phetasy 45:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:30 One of the best things about jujitsu is when you're rolling in the class, the person who you are sparring against is generally going close to 100% of their strength.

Bridget Phetasy 45:42 Right.

Joe Rogan 45:42 When there's certain positions, like, there's certain things that they're doing to you where they are using all their might to try to achieve a- a- a dominant position.

Bridget Phetasy 45:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 45:50 A passing of a guard, uh, you know, a finishing up of a submission.

Bridget Phetasy 45:54 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 45:54 They're closing up a, a submission. That is a... You're accustomed to that, so it's a normal thing.

Bridget Phetasy 45:59 Right.

Joe Rogan 45:59 And so you're- you're not... Like, when you do sparring in karate class, you kind of touch each other.

Bridget Phetasy 46:04 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:04 So when somebody really fucking blasts you, you're not n- it's not- you're not used to that, and you- you might freak out.

Bridget Phetasy 46:10 Right.

Joe Rogan 46:10 Jujitsu, it becomes automatic.

Bridget Phetasy 46:12 Okay.

Joe Rogan 46:12 It is, it is the absolute best martial art for people, because if you're in a physical-

Bridget Phetasy 46:17 I love it.

Joe Rogan 46:17 ... struggle with someone, if some guy grabs you at a bar and the bar table behind you falls over and you're on your back, you, you know exactly what to do.

Bridget Phetasy 46:26 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 46:26 You don't, you don't even think.

Bridget Phetasy 46:27 Mm.

Joe Rogan 46:27 You're in the middle of chaos, and it's as easy as tying your shoe. You know exactly what to do. But it's because you've done it a thousand times.

Bridget Phetasy 46:33 This is like shooting though, too. It's why you've gotta train.

Joe Rogan 46:36 You should train everything.

Bridget Phetasy 46:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:38 Everything that you do that's important to you.

Bridget Phetasy 46:39 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:40 Everything, everything. It's stand-up comedy. You have to do-

Bridget Phetasy 46:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:42 ... a lot of sets.

Bridget Phetasy 46:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:43 If you don't do a lot of sets, you don't feel sharp.

Bridget Phetasy 46:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:45 You have to feel sharp.

Bridget Phetasy 46:46 Yep. It's so- it's, like, been so fun to get back, because I was... I kinda convinced myself maybe I just had a 10-year phase. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:58 Of comedy? No.

Bridget Phetasy 46:59 And then my friend, Arielle Isaac Norman, who runs, like, a G- it's the Gay Enough Show. She's f- she's amazing, and she was like, "Just come do one set and see how you feel." And I was like, "I don't know. I'm a mom now." Like, maybe that was just, like, my lesbian summer that I had or whatever, and she was like, "Just try it and see." She's like, "You can't..." Like, "You can lie to yourself about this, but you're- once you're a comedian, like, good luck getting that out." And once I got up, I was like, "Goddammit, I gotta do this now," and it's not something you can just, like, do, you know? It's not a... You've gotta do it.

Joe Rogan 47:33 Well, y- also, like, you feel the puzzle again. Like, "Ooh."

Bridget Phetasy 47:36 I love the puzzle!

Joe Rogan 47:37 You feel the puzzle. You go on stage, you're working the puzzle out and you're like, "Okay, I'm in."

Bridget Phetasy 47:41 It's so humbling too.

Joe Rogan 47:43 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 47:43 I just love eating shit and being like... I don't know. It was, it was funny, 'cause someone was like, "Why are you doing that?" I'm like, "Well, I can either be a successful pundit or a failed comedian."

Joe Rogan 47:52 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 47:52 And I'd rather be a failed comedian. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:56 Well, as- even the successful pundit is not mutually exclusive.

Bridget Phetasy 47:59 No, I know.

Joe Rogan 47:59 You can look at Jimmy Dore. He does both.

Bridget Phetasy 48:00 Jimmy's great though.

Joe Rogan 48:01 Jimmy, Jimmy is-

Bridget Phetasy 48:02 He's smart though.

Joe Rogan 48:03 ... such a funny stand-up too.

Bridget Phetasy 48:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:05 He, he did stand-up at the club when he was in town doing my podcast.

Bridget Phetasy 48:08 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 48:08 I haven't seen him live in forever. He was really funny.

Bridget Phetasy 48:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:12 He was really sharp.

Bridget Phetasy 48:13 Yup, yeah. It's been- I just-

Joe Rogan 48:15 Such a nice guy too.

Bridget Phetasy 48:16 Yeah, I've- I've always wanted to- I don't know him. I've always wanted to meet him.

Joe Rogan 48:19 He's a sweetheart.

Bridget Phetasy 48:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:20 He's a really nice guy.

Bridget Phetasy 48:22 Um, every-

Joe Rogan 48:23 I like him a lot.

Bridget Phetasy 48:23 Every interaction I've had with him has been pleasant, but I've never-

Joe Rogan 48:27 That guy goes hard.

Bridget Phetasy 48:29 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:29 He goes so hard. Like... (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 48:31 He knows a lot though.

Joe Rogan 48:33 He does. He's cons- Well, he's- him and- he's ruined Kurt Metzger. Kurt Me-

Bridget Phetasy 48:37 Why?

Joe Rogan 48:37 Kurt Metzger is, like, so far down the conspiracy rabbit hole now.

Bridget Phetasy 48:41 Oh, I know.

Joe Rogan 48:41 Every fucking conspiracy, Kurt Metzger's balls in.

Bridget Phetasy 48:44 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:45 And he's just freaked out by everything because he didn't know all this stuff until he started working with Jimmy.

Bridget Phetasy 48:50 Ah.

Joe Rogan 48:50 When he started working with Jimmy-

Bridget Phetasy 48:51 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:51 ... he's like, "Jesus Christ." And now he's just like- he's just in. Every time I have- I find anything that's fucked up, I send it to him to get him worked up. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 49:00 Kurt?

Joe Rogan 49:01 Yes. And he sends me, like, these walls of text. You wanna see these walls of text?

Bridget Phetasy 49:06 I- I love him.

Joe Rogan 49:06 Have you ever seen them?

Bridget Phetasy 49:07 No.

Joe Rogan 49:07 Have you ever been texting with Kurt? Let me show you-

Bridget Phetasy 49:09 I wish.

Joe Rogan 49:09 Let me show you a Kurt Metzger wall of text.

Bridget Phetasy 49:12 When they were here doing their show-

Joe Rogan 49:13 Look at these walls of text.

Bridget Phetasy 49:15 Oh, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:15 Look at these. Look at these walls of texts.... watch this, I'll get you a good one here. Here we go.

Bridget Phetasy 49:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:20 Here's a good one. Look at this wall.

Bridget Phetasy 49:22 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 49:23 (laughs) He's just flicking... Here's another good one. Here's another good wall. He just, he'll like, just go at you-

Bridget Phetasy 49:28 That guy is like a joke-writing machine now.

Joe Rogan 49:31 He's a genius.

Bridget Phetasy 49:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:32 No, he's a genius.

Bridget Phetasy 49:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:33 I mean, his mind just... He, he has a, like... You know when they open dams?

Bridget Phetasy 49:37 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:38 Wee! That's what it's like. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 49:39 Like, do you sleep?

Joe Rogan 49:40 He just goes so hard.

Bridget Phetasy 49:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:43 He's such a great joke writer. It's such a fun dude to hang out with.

Bridget Phetasy 49:46 Their thing that-

Joe Rogan 49:46 But the tweet walls are fucking insane.

Bridget Phetasy 49:48 Their thing that they did at Mothership that he and Kyle did-

Joe Rogan 49:51 Oh, yeah, pussies? Yeah. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 49:52 I was... That, that shit is genius too. It's so, like he-

Joe Rogan 49:56 Donegan is one of those guys where you wanna talk about someone who's, like, not appreciated for how good he is-

Bridget Phetasy 50:00 And a genius.

Joe Rogan 50:00 ... and a true genius.

Bridget Phetasy 50:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:02 His face swaps of Trump.

Bridget Phetasy 50:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:04 Did you ever see the one with Trump and Caitlyn Jenner? They're having sex.

Bridget Phetasy 50:07 No. How did I miss this?

Joe Rogan 50:08 I, I think that was the one that they wouldn't let on Comedy Central. 'Cause, you know, briefly, he was gonna do a thing on Comedy Central with the face swaps, but i- it's... They're too good on Instagram. They're too good, like, he's too free.

Bridget Phetasy 50:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:22 And the, the craziness is the freedom.

Bridget Phetasy 50:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:25 You know, like, did you ever see the one where Caitlyn Jenner, uh, was explaining about h- her new vagina that she got to the girls?

Bridget Phetasy 50:32 I don't think so.

Joe Rogan 50:33 And how she masturbates with it with a weed whacker?

Bridget Phetasy 50:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:35 It's like, it's just... The whole thing is just so... It's so horrible. (laughs) It's so crazy. And the girls are like, "What?"

Bridget Phetasy 50:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:43 Like, have you seen it? He's got the Kardashians in the background.

Bridget Phetasy 50:47 I need to see it.

Joe Rogan 50:47 Fi- find that, please, Jamey.

Bridget Phetasy 50:48 He's, he, they were so good.

Joe Rogan 50:49 And he's your trap baby. He does the best Caitlyn Jenner. It's fucking insane. He does the best Trump.

Bridget Phetasy 50:54 They were... (laughs) When they did the land acknowledgment, it was like a picture of you kicking, like, a... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:00 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 51:02 Like, the audience had no idea what to make of this. They're like, "What is happening right now?"

Joe Rogan 51:06 (laughs) .

Bridget Phetasy 51:06 They're like, "We need to do a land acknowledgment." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:09 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 51:11 It was like watching NPR at Mothership. It was so good. It was-

Joe Rogan 51:14 Do you remember when they used to announce what cl- color of the clothes they were wearing and, um-

Bridget Phetasy 51:18 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:19 ... my pronouns are she/her-

Bridget Phetasy 51:20 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 51:21 ... and I'm in a blue dress.

Bridget Phetasy 51:22 Didn't Kamala do that?

Joe Rogan 51:23 Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

Bridget Phetasy 51:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:24 Th- They only did it for, like, a few weeks, and they were like, "Too much! Too much! Everybody back out! Back out!" That one... (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 51:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:30 That one was so stupid that even people in their party were like, "What the fuck are you doing?"

Bridget Phetasy 51:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:36 "What the fuck are you doing?" That's like if the, like, right-wingers started going, "My name is Bob, I'm a patriot, and I believe in Jesus Christ."

Bridget Phetasy 51:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:42 Like, everybody would be like, "Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Bob. We're just talking about the infrastructure. We're just, we're just gonna fix the road, Bob."

Bridget Phetasy 51:49 "Calm down, Bob."

Joe Rogan 51:51 "Calm down, Bob."

Bridget Phetasy 51:51 "My name is Bob."

Joe Rogan 51:52 "Yeah."

Bridget Phetasy 51:52 "I'm here because I was saved by the Lord."

Joe Rogan 51:55 "Bob doesn't believe in gays."

Bridget Phetasy 51:56 (laughs) Bob doesn't believe in gays.

Joe Rogan 51:56 Gays, they just, just resist, resist, resist.

Bridget Phetasy 51:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:00 Do you, do you know that's what Ben Shapiro told me?

Bridget Phetasy 52:02 What?

Joe Rogan 52:03 That, like, you should just not do it, and that it's, like, one of those things, like, you, you might wanna murder someone, but you shouldn't 'cause it's a sin.

Bridget Phetasy 52:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:10 (laughs) Yo, I think it's d... Have you met any gay guys? You know any gay guys? (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 52:14 Like, just clutch that b-hole and pray.

Joe Rogan 52:18 (laughs) But first of all, what are they supposed to do, pretend they like girls? "Have you met gay guys? Like actual gay guys?"

Bridget Phetasy 52:24 I know, I don't know yet.

Joe Rogan 52:25 They actually, they're, they're real, okay?

Bridget Phetasy 52:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:27 It's like thinking that a bear is a fucking teddy bear. An actual gay guy is a real thing. Leave 'em the fuck alone. Let 'em fuck guys, you weirdo.

Bridget Phetasy 52:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:35 You bow tie-wearing, clipboard-having fucking weirdo. What do you care? What do you care? They wanna fuck each other. Who cares?

Bridget Phetasy 52:42 It's like, I feel like we're surrounded by pearl-clutchers. You know, e- everywhere I turn, it's pearl-clutchers.

Joe Rogan 52:48 It's also, why is that pleasure so forbidden? Okay, if it's, this... The, for a lot of people that are, like, pro-lifers, gay sex should be your favorite sex-

Bridget Phetasy 52:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:58 ... 'cause nobody's gonna have a baby. There's gonna be no abortions. You know how many abortions the gay community has? Fucking zero.

Bridget Phetasy 53:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:04 All right, if everyone's going to hell, for sure they should get a pass. At least they haven't killed any fucking babies.

Bridget Phetasy 53:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:09 Right? So, is it okay if gay guys massage each other?

Bridget Phetasy 53:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:12 Is that okay? Oh, that's fine. Oh, yeah, yeah, you can give each other back rubs and foot rubs and butt rubs-

Bridget Phetasy 53:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:18 ... fine. But just don't touch the dick. Like, that's crazy.

Bridget Phetasy 53:22 Ariel, I didn't know there was a joke about this.

Joe Rogan 53:24 That is absolutely crazy. If you can get a job, if you're a gay dude and you can get a job rubbing backs and butts and feet for $50 an hour-

Bridget Phetasy 53:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:32 ... or you could rub dicks for $150.

Bridget Phetasy 53:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:36 Like, it seems like it's quicker, you know? Get to the point. Make your money. Who cares? What do you care? Do you want to touch his feet? You don't, right? You're doing it for money. You don't wanna touch his dick either.

Bridget Phetasy 53:48 The argument, I guess, would be it was, like, a slippery slope to all the-

Joe Rogan 53:51 Prostitution.

Bridget Phetasy 53:52 ... gender stuff. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:53 Well, it's, it's a slippery soapd... Here it is. Let me see.

Narrator 53:55 I don't know if I found the right one that you're looking for.

Joe Rogan 53:56 Let's just try it. Let's just touch-

Narrator 53:58 Door's closed.

Bridget Phetasy 53:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:59 What the... Is it...

Narrator 54:00 We're made out of yello- everything is mud now.

Bridget Phetasy 54:03 (laughs)

Narrator 54:04 Wash. Ah, shit, I forgot. We forgot. Hey, Kim. Kels, you need new tennis shorts. Why? Kurt said everyone could see your hunani today. Oh, maybe it's 'cause I put too much of Kylie's Lip Puffer on my lips, yeah. That goes on the lips, on your face. Are you serious?

Bridget Phetasy 54:27 (laughs)

Narrator 54:27 Well, I paid 80 grand for that cooch, so maybe everyone should see it. Yeah, baby. It's so embarrassing.

Bridget Phetasy 54:35 (laughs)

Narrator 54:36 Oh, you're embarrassed? Well, let me get your name real quick.

Bridget Phetasy 54:38 (laughs)

Narrator 54:38 Hey, look, a picture of the inside of your asshole. Shut the fuck up, Kim.

Bridget Phetasy 54:42 (laughs)

Narrator 54:42 Hello? (laughs) It's Kim K. I'm at the side door. Okay, I'll buzz you in. The door's closed.

Bridget Phetasy 54:56 (laughs)

Narrator 54:56 Yeah, you gotta push it. It's locked.

Bridget Phetasy 55:00 (laughs)

Narrator 55:00 Yeah, wait until I buzz you.

Bridget Phetasy 55:03 (laughs)

Narrator 55:03 Okay, push it.

Bridget Phetasy 55:07 (laughs)

Narrator 55:09 Why didn't you open it? There was a weird buzzing noise.

Bridget Phetasy 55:13 (laughs)

Narrator 55:14 Yeah, that means, that means open the door. It's locked.

Bridget Phetasy 55:20 (laughs)

Narrator 55:21 You have to wa- you have to wait until I buzz you. Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 55:25 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 55:26 (laughs) I love him so much.

Joe Rogan 55:28 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 55:28 I love him, he's just not right.

Joe Rogan 55:31 This is better than anything that Comedy Central has ever done-

Bridget Phetasy 55:33 No.

Joe Rogan 55:33 ... on South Park.

Bridget Phetasy 55:34 No. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:35 And they fucked it up.

Bridget Phetasy 55:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:36 And the thing is-

Bridget Phetasy 55:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:37 ... when they were doing it over there, here's the problem, first of all they were using better technology.

Bridget Phetasy 55:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:43 So... And I think that's what it... One of the things that makes it fun is how shitty it looks.

Bridget Phetasy 55:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:48 You know, because you don't really think it's Kim Kardashian, you don't really think it's Caitlyn Jenner.

Bridget Phetasy 55:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:52 I- uh, w- the stuff he does is perfect.

Bridget Phetasy 55:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:54 And they were doing it with, like, high-end stuff.

Bridget Phetasy 55:56 Oh, right.

Joe Rogan 55:56 And they kinda looked creepy.

Bridget Phetasy 55:58 Right, right, right.

Joe Rogan 55:59 And I think the one with Caitlyn Jenner having sex with Trump, it might not... It might be one of those, like, lost recordings.

Bridget Phetasy 56:06 Maybe he has it.

Joe Rogan 56:06 I don't... Yeah, I don't think he's ever even released it. It's hilarious.

Bridget Phetasy 56:11 (laughs) I should ask Marlene.

Joe Rogan 56:11 It is hilarious.

Bridget Phetasy 56:13 I bet my friend has it. (laughs) Send me that-

Joe Rogan 56:15 And I'm pretty sure Trump's on the bottom.

Bridget Phetasy 56:17 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:18 If I remember correctly.

Bridget Phetasy 56:20 They're... I, I don't know-

Joe Rogan 56:22 Because they're- (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 56:22 ... the- these networks are done. Like how-

Joe Rogan 56:24 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 56:24 What-

Joe Rogan 56:25 Unfortunately they're, they're, they're hamstrung, right? They're hamstrung by their format, they're hamstrung by the fact that they-

Bridget Phetasy 56:31 The investors. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:32 They have to have comm- commercials every five to seven minutes, they're hamstrung by that. Then they're hamstrung by the fact that they're on commercial television, so there, there's language restrictions and content restri-... You're not gonna take a risk. The people that are the producers and the executives, they're the ones who get to te-... They, they get to make the decisions as to whether or not you should take a risk. And generally speaking, unless a show is really successful, like South Park; South Park, they stay out of the conversation, like, "Leave those fucking guys alone, they're geniuses."

Bridget Phetasy 56:59 Yeah. Let 'em do what they're gonna do.

Joe Rogan 56:59 "Let them do what they're gonna do-"

Bridget Phetasy 57:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:01 "... and it's gonna be amazing." But if you're a beginner, they're not gonna do that.

Bridget Phetasy 57:04 No.

Joe Rogan 57:05 They're not gonna take that chance. And because they're not gonna take that chance, because they have this weird relationship with their advertisers and they can't be free, they're never gonna be able to compete with someone like Kyle.

Bridget Phetasy 57:13 No. And why would he ha-... You would have to offer him a lot of money to even make that worth it.

Joe Rogan 57:20 Yeah, but even if you did, you'd have to let him do that.

Bridget Phetasy 57:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:23 Like, the thing is about Kyle, it's like if Kyle was on the staff of a regular Comedy Central show, you know, as a writer or producer, he would not be able to shine. You gotta leave him alone. You gotta-

Bridget Phetasy 57:34 Well, this is why I think Shane dodged a huge bullet.

Joe Rogan 57:36 Yes.

Bridget Phetasy 57:36 Because, man, how hamstrung he would have been working, I'm, at, at SNL.

Joe Rogan 57:40 He would've still, he would've still done his shit.

Bridget Phetasy 57:43 Of course, but-

Joe Rogan 57:43 Yeah, but he would've gotten heat and people got mad at him, but he would've been the same guy. He's-

Bridget Phetasy 57:48 Y- yeah, but I still think, like, you get rained... Even the one that he did when he was a guest, the funniest sketch of his, they didn't air it.

Joe Rogan 57:56 Yeah. Yeah. But that's just they don't want to.

Bridget Phetasy 57:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:59 There's, there's like... No, there's like real internal cock-fighting-

Bridget Phetasy 58:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:03 ... on that show. The people have explained about, like, whose sketches get picked and whose not-

Bridget Phetasy 58:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:07 ... get picked. And, and there's been a lot of accusations of, like, certain writers taking premises from younger writers, that's what Jim Breuer said.

Bridget Phetasy 58:16 Oh, interesting.

Joe Rogan 58:16 That they have a database of stuff they're working on and then someone would just see what you're working on and then steal it and write something-

Bridget Phetasy 58:22 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 58:22 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Phil Hartman told me about that too.

Bridget Phetasy 58:24 Oh.

Joe Rogan 58:25 Yeah, Phil, Phil Hartman told me there's all these... Like, it's weirdly competitive and back-stabby. He was a harsher. Like, when, when Phil first came over to News Radio, it took him a while to just relax and be friends with us.

Bridget Phetasy 58:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:39 Because he almost thought of us as being like fellow cast members on SNL, so there's, like, this combative, sort of, distanced relationship.

Bridget Phetasy 58:46 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 58:47 And the cast of News Radio wasn't like that at all.

Bridget Phetasy 58:49 It-

Joe Rogan 58:49 We were all getting drunk together and having fun and rel- laughing.

Bridget Phetasy 58:54 It seems like it's competitive, SNL.

Joe Rogan 58:58 Oh, yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 58:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:59 It's very c-... It's not just competitive, it's, like, back-stabby competitive, according to Jim Breuer.

Bridget Phetasy 59:04 Mm.

Joe Rogan 59:04 He, he hated it. He just... Could not deal with the, the way that things were done over there.

Bridget Phetasy 59:09 It's, like, high pressure too and very stressful and-

Joe Rogan 59:12 It's also a prestigious position that people are fighting for.

Bridget Phetasy 59:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:15 You're a writer on SNL, you're a producer on SNL, you want... You know. You're... This is like you're in that hungry part of your career where you're making things happen and you're competing with all these other people and-

Bridget Phetasy 59:24 When it was good it was great.

Joe Rogan 59:26 Oh, but it's only great when you have wild people who you let do funny things.

Bridget Phetasy 59:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:33 And you can't do a lot of the things that they used to do. You would, like-

Bridget Phetasy 59:37 Oh, god, no.

Joe Rogan 59:38 ... Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor when they were like, "I'm gonna say a word and tell me what you think."

Bridget Phetasy 59:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:43 "What's the first word that comes outta your mouth?"

Bridget Phetasy 59:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:44 It's like you couldn't... There's no chance in hell-

Bridget Phetasy 59:46 You couldn't do Jane, you ignorant slut.

Joe Rogan 59:48 You couldn't do any of that.

Bridget Phetasy 59:48 No.

Joe Rogan 59:49 You might be able to do Land Shark.

Bridget Phetasy 59:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:52 You know, but, like, even the fucking samurai thing that John Belushi used to do-

Bridget Phetasy 59:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:55 ... you couldn't do that because it's cultural appropriation.

Bridget Phetasy 59:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:57 You can't pretend to be a Japanese guy. (sighs) They're br- they're broken.

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:01 But do you think Hollywood is, uh... Like, with AI and all this, do you think that it, it stands-

Joe Rogan 1:00:07 Doesn't matter.

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:07 ... stands a chance?

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 Yeah, it'll make awesome movies. They're still gonna make movies, but they're gonna make movies entirely on a computer. The, the people that are gonna be fucked are the actors and the writers.

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:16 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:00:16 They're fucked.

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:17 And then the animators, they're fucked. They're fucked. Everybody's fucked.

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:21 All these, uh, special effects houses, you're fucked.

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:24 Everybody's fucked. There's n-... You don't have a... There's not a chance in hell that you survive.

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:28 They won't just, like, use the technology to-

Joe Rogan 1:00:32 They don't need you.

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:33 ... improve?

Joe Rogan 1:00:34 If a, if a studio-

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:00:35 ... is making films, like, all, all they're gonna need is algorithms.

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:39 They all kinda look like they're made by algorithms already.

Joe Rogan 1:00:42 What's gonna happen is they're gonna do that and then the number one movie in the world is gonna be a movie that a kid made on his cellphone.

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:48 (laughs) Yeah, I know.

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 He's gonna make it with editing it-

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:50 ... on fucking iMovie, on his phone-

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:52 ... or whatever it is. And he's gonna make it off of his cellphone and it's gonna be like The Blair Witch Project. Everybody's like, "Oh, my God."

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:56 Or like Napoleon Dynamite.

Joe Rogan 1:00:58 "It's so real."

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:59 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:00 Yeah. They're... But special effects and all that shit, that's out the window.

Bridget Phetasy 1:01:04 Yeah. I don't-

Joe Rogan 1:01:05 It-

Bridget Phetasy 1:01:05 I don't know, it seems like... My friends who are still in Hollywood and LA, they've been... We've been talking and they're like, "This... The wheels are coming off the bus out here." Like, the, they had a strike and they're like... And we never recovered really and now the work is drying up because they are just using AI.

Joe Rogan 1:01:23 Well, it's not just that, they're gonna be able to make real films, real quick.

Bridget Phetasy 1:01:28 Mm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:29 For real cheap. And they're gonna do it and it's gonna cripple that business.

Bridget Phetasy 1:01:34 Mm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:34 And if those films make any money, if they're any good, if people like 'em-It's gonna be so strange, man. So many jobs are gonna be useless. We are literally giving birth to our successor, and we're all like, "Oh, Meta's got an AI now. Let me ask it some questions." (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:01:53 (laughs) Have you... Do you use AI at all?

Joe Rogan 1:01:57 No. Zero.

Bridget Phetasy 1:01:58 Zero?

Joe Rogan 1:01:58 I, I have a Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra that has some AI features that I thought were interesting.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:04 Um, one of 'em was, um, you can go to a website and it'll, um, summarize the website for you.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:10 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:10 Like all the important... Which is, that's kind of cool. And there's some other things it does. It summarizes notes for you.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:15 Transcribes notes. But other than that...

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:17 There's good things, like, for transcription, stuff like that. I think that it's... It is useful. It can do it in no-

Joe Rogan 1:02:24 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:24 ... time at all.

Joe Rogan 1:02:25 I probably should ask it questions.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:27 But it is-

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 About things. If I have questions about a subject-

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:31 I asked-

Joe Rogan 1:02:32 ... maybe I'm writing about.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:32 ... I was sending Tony a screenshot 'cause I was asking it about the... I asked it about the top comedy podcasts, and Kill Tony wasn't on there. And I was like, "It's, it's shadow banning you."

Joe Rogan 1:02:42 AI's doing that?

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:43 I asked th- this AI search engine that I've used, you.com.

Joe Rogan 1:02:47 Well, for sure some of them are curated. Some of the results are curated, just like Google results are curated. It's very difficult to get, uh, certain stories now.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:56 If you try to Google certain stories, things that have happened in the past, very hard to find. And it seems like DuckDuckGo's been compromised too.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:03 Oh, no. Not DuckDuckGo.

Joe Rogan 1:03:03 Yeah. I used to think that it was really Go, but it just, it seems to mirror the results of Google now.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:08 So where do you, where do you go?

Joe Rogan 1:03:09 Where it didn't use to for any weird stuff. Um, there's Brave. Brave has a, a search engine that I think is, uh, with no algorithm. Um, it's not... I don't think it's curated. I think there's a few other ones that you can go to that are, like, small end, uh, search engines. It... Like, they're all tied into the same thing, right? They're all tied into this great database in the world. I just don't know... I don't know what's going on behind the scenes that if you google certain things, it will only give you positive things about, uh, a person. And if you google other people, it'll only give you negative things.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:47 Yeah. Doesn't, doesn't that... Doesn't it seem though like tech is shifting a little more rightward?

Joe Rogan 1:03:55 No. Only X.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:57 But, I mean-

Joe Rogan 1:03:58 That's it.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:58 ... didn't freaking Zuckerberg the other day come out and be like, "That was the most badass..." Or was that AI?

Joe Rogan 1:04:03 No. No, it was real. He said that.

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:05 But how much, how much of a, how much of a say do you really think Zuckerberg has over the entire business of Meta?

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:11 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:04:12 Yeah, he's the owner, the CEO, the big dog, but he's also-

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:16 He's also just-

Joe Rogan 1:04:16 ... one human being.

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:17 ... hunting people in Maui. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:20 He is. (laughs) Like, yeah, he, uh, he's doing jujitsu. He's really into a lot of fun things.

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:25 You know, he's having a good time, right?

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:27 How am I... I mean, he's not there every day. For sure, people are getting shadow banned, and it's not like he's behind the scenes pulling the triggers.

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:33 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:04:33 There's, there's... It's a company, and it's a giant, huge company that is, like all these companies, heavily influenced by advertiser dollars.

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:42 Yeah, Dumpster Fire, we get that a lot from people. We get emails constantly that they, that they've been unsubscribed. Like con- I get one a day.

Joe Rogan 1:04:51 Mm-hmm.

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:51 And we've reached out to YouTube and been like, "Hey, why does this happen?" They're like, "Well, if you can get a screen recording of that happening." I'm like, "So someone's supposed to record themselves being unsubscribed?" Like, this is impossible. Then maybe they'll investigate it.

Joe Rogan 1:05:09 Well, any-

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:10 And Dumpster Fire is... You know, we f- we're kind of like... (laughs) Like my friend the other day was like, "The shit you say on that show." Like, I'm like, "We're fine flying under the radar." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:20 Yeah, but you're not.

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:21 It's okay.

Joe Rogan 1:05:21 No one is, you know. Even people that aren't fly- that are kind of flying under the radar, they're not. There's... They know. The, the, the algorithm's picking up things you say.

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:30 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:31 They know, they know what you're talking about, and they don't like when people are questioning certain narratives.

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:36 No, no, no. And we've... It's funny how we're like... Our slogan for Dumpster Fire is, "We make burgers out of your sacred cows." And it is so funny, back to like our tribalism thing, everyone has like their thing.

Joe Rogan 1:05:46 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:47 Where you'll say something and they're like, "Ha ha, we love you." And then in a minute you're like, and then blah, blah, blah. And they're like, "Bah!"

Joe Rogan 1:05:53 Yup.

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:53 How dare you?

Joe Rogan 1:05:54 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:54 And that's all they hear.

Joe Rogan 1:05:56 That's all they hear.

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:56 And you're like, "That was your thing. I'm sorry I stepped on your third rail."

Joe Rogan 1:06:00 Yeah. Yeah, you f- you need rubber shoes, bitch. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:06 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:06 The whole thing is stupid. It's... And it's, um, very unfortunate there's no real competitors, like a Twitter that's just a video thing, like YouTube is. 'Cause like-

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:15 He's trying now.

Joe Rogan 1:06:16 ... YouTube is so... Yeah. I mean, maybe he'll be able to do it. It's possible he can... If anybody's gonna do it, Twitter's gonna do it. He's gonna do it.

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:21 I mean, thank God. We would not know the president was- wasn't dead. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just spreading conspiracy.

Joe Rogan 1:06:25 Do you think that that's a guy in a suit? Let's watch the video of-

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:28 Are you okay?

Joe Rogan 1:06:28 ... Biden wa- No, I got something in my eye. It's okay.

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:30 You wanna get it out?

Joe Rogan 1:06:31 No, no, no, no, it's nothing. It's nothing.

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:32 You want me to put some water in there?

Joe Rogan 1:06:33 No, I think it's actually just a cigar ash that I have on the table.

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:35 Do you want... Do you have eye drops?

Joe Rogan 1:06:37 No, don't worry about it.

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:06:38 I'm fine.

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:38 I'm worried. I'm like, "I'm a mom now." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:06:39 Um, find the video of... Uh, I know. Thanks, Mom. Uh, I wanna show the video of, uh, Biden, uh, walking up the stairs of Air Force One. Walked a little too spryly for my, for my money.

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:50 But can we talk about just how objectively insane this is right now?

Joe Rogan 1:06:54 That we're arguing whether or not the president is really alive?

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:56 But also, like, everything that's happened in the past, what is it, 10, 11 days?

Joe Rogan 1:07:01 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:07:02 And this is... There's a large pop- We were all talking about this before we started recording. There's a large population of people who are acting like this is all just normal. Like, "Oh, what's the big deal?"

Joe Rogan 1:07:12 Who?

Bridget Phetasy 1:07:12 All the, like, people who are probably still wearing masks. They're all like, "Oh, what's the big deal? This is ju-" I'm like, if this was Trump and he was install... Like, if just reverse parties and this was happening with Republicans, it would be literally Hitler going on, the end of democracy. It's fucking banana town.

Joe Rogan 1:07:32 Zoom in this, um, this fake Biden real quick. Just kidding.

Narrator 1:07:36 Mr. President, how are you feeling? How are you feeling?

Joe Rogan 1:07:38 Go full screen.

Narrator 1:07:40 Mr. President, how are you feeling?

Joe Rogan 1:07:41 Not rem-... Not him.

Narrator 1:07:42 How are you feeling?

Bridget Phetasy 1:07:46 He has no idea where he is.

Narrator 1:07:48 How are you feeling since you dropped out of the race, sir?

Bridget Phetasy 1:07:53 This is sad.

Narrator 1:07:55 Can Harris beat Trump?

Joe Rogan 1:07:57 He's walking pretty good.

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:00 I don't know. This is sad.

Joe Rogan 1:08:02 Or, that's a 40-year-old guy in a suit.

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:08:07 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:07 But, Trump-

Joe Rogan 1:08:09 What do you think?

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:09 ... nearly got assassinated. Has there been a-

Joe Rogan 1:08:11 Look at those hands. Those are young hands.

Narrator 1:08:12 He needs stabilizers for his hands.

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:12 He dropped out of the race with a, no it's apology. Like w-

Joe Rogan 1:08:16 I want to analyze this like the Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot footage.

Narrator 1:08:21 See his gait compared to other?

Joe Rogan 1:08:22 (laughs) Yeah, I wanna see his gait. I wanna study his gait with s- with fucking AI software. Hey chat, GPT, tell me if this is the real Joe Biden based on how he walks.

Narrator 1:08:30 I did see someone put, uh, I, it also could be fake, they put the audio of his phone-

Joe Rogan 1:08:34 (laughs)

Narrator 1:08:34 ... of the phone call into-

Joe Rogan 1:08:36 Yes.

Narrator 1:08:36 ... like 11 Labs, and it said it was a 98% chance it wasn't real.

Joe Rogan 1:08:39 Yes. Yeah. I sent that to-

Narrator 1:08:41 I don't know if that one's real either.

Joe Rogan 1:08:41 Did I send that to you?

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:42 To me.

Joe Rogan 1:08:42 You... Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:42 Um, let me send that back to you too, Jamie, because of...

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:45 When I texted you w- about Trump, it was like, I was like, "Is this the first..." It's fucked up that we even live in a time where all of our first reaction, which rightfully, is, "Is this real?" Like, when I heard about Trump, I was like, "Is this AI?"

Joe Rogan 1:08:59 Yeah, everything seems fake. People were thinking that... I mean, wasn't... Didn't that one lady, um, tweet that she thought that, uh, Trump only got shot in the head so he doesn't go to jail?

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:10 Wait. Oh, so it was him's...

Joe Rogan 1:09:13 Do you know that?

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:13 Who?

Joe Rogan 1:09:13 She was trying to... Uh, I'll tell you right in a second after I sent that thing to Jamie. Um...

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:17 This is f-... I, I, I mean...

Joe Rogan 1:09:19 This world's gone bananas.

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:20 I get kind of turned on by all the chaos because I come from it.

Joe Rogan 1:09:23 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:23 And like, I do, I'm like, "Please stop. I'm gonna start masturbating to Twitter."

Joe Rogan 1:09:27 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:27 It's too much. It's just too hot. It...

Joe Rogan 1:09:31 It's so crazy.

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:32 It's-

Joe Rogan 1:09:32 It's just like every day, it's crazier. Okay, here it is. Um, Gail Helt. She said, uh, so it says, "Donald..." This is like, um...

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:09:41 Aaron Rupor said... Nancy Mace apparently said this. I guess it was on one of those news channels.

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:46 Aaron Rupor? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:09:46 "Donald Trump literally took a bullet for