Joe Rogan Experience #2186 - Ari Matti

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. AMAri Matti Mustonen0:00

      (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (energetic music)

   3. JVJamie Vernon0:12

      Okay, we're up now.

   4. AMAri Matti Mustonen0:13

      Oh, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      So what, what were you guys, um, talking shop about?

   6. JVJamie Vernon0:16

      Want to explain.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      What did (laughs) what did you ask?

   8. AMAri Matti Mustonen0:18

      Well...

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      What was the question you asked Jamie?

   10. AMAri Matti Mustonen0:18

       Okay, well Jai- well, yeah. Jamie's gonna fucking...

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       (laughs)

   12. AMAri Matti Mustonen0:22

       ... run a train on me.

   13. JVJamie Vernon0:23

       Ah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       I felt that there was some controversy.

   15. AMAri Matti Mustonen0:25

       There was some tension. There was some-

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       There was a little tension in the room.

   17. AMAri Matti Mustonen0:26

       We had, when we had a lovely dinner after your show, uh, we, we went at it a little bit. And we had a little disagreement about compression technologies, pre-amps.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Really?

   19. AMAri Matti Mustonen0:36

       Cloudlifters, you know.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       What is your position?

   21. AMAri Matti Mustonen0:39

       Well, my position is... Well, okay.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       (laughs)

   23. JVJamie Vernon0:42

       Go ahead.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Hold on. Okay, okay.

   25. JVJamie Vernon0:43

       He's coming from a different place, though, also, so go ahead.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Okay.

   27. AMAri Matti Mustonen0:45

       Yeah, very different. Let's just say, financially, we're coming from a different, very different place.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Okay.

   29. AMAri Matti Mustonen0:49

       But I try to use the Shure SM7B. We actually got, uh, for my podcast, uh, Tussisööd, shout out, here we are, um... It's Estonian, you're not gonna... Well, AI maybe.

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       What did you just shout out?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      upset.

   2. AMAri Matti Mustonen15:00

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      And- and so it was-

   4. AMAri Matti Mustonen15:02

      He was-

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      Um, uh, I had, um, Paul Stanley from KISS on the podcast.

   6. AMAri Matti Mustonen15:05

      Wow.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      And he's just flat out saying, "Those people are stealing. They're stealing money." And, you know, my position, it was very... I was like, okay, a bomb just went off. And you could either recognize you have a hole in the ship or you can go full steam ahead with the original plan and this motherfucker's gonna sink. Okay?

   8. AMAri Matti Mustonen15:22

      It's like the cartoon when Tom and Jerry, when he's trying to- the ship is sinking.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:26

      The moment music becomes a digital piece of information that can be uploaded to a hard drive. The moment that happens, it's over.

   10. AMAri Matti Mustonen15:36

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       So if you don't realize that the war has been lost and devise some sort of monetization of streaming platform, make it simpler, quicker-

   12. AMAri Matti Mustonen15:46

       (clears throat)

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       ... faster than anybody else's, and then get it up there quick... Because (laughs) like, that's, they should have done that the moment Napster came out.

   14. AMAri Matti Mustonen15:54

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       They should have hired like the best coders.

   16. AMAri Matti Mustonen15:56

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       And said, "Okay, there is no way you're stopping this." Like, we did... The- the- the dam broke, water's coming through, and record sales-

   18. AMAri Matti Mustonen16:05

       Build boats.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       ... are gone.

   20. AMAri Matti Mustonen16:06

       Build boats. The dam-

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       Record sales just went away.

   22. AMAri Matti Mustonen16:08

       So quickly.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       Guys were making millions and millions of dollars from record sales, and then they'd go on tour. And they'd make-

   24. AMAri Matti Mustonen16:17

       But even live touring was on a down slope because you didn't need to do that that much. Record sales was the bag.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       Right.

   26. AMAri Matti Mustonen16:24

       That's why Madonna went back on tour. I mean-

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:26

       Yes.

   28. AMAri Matti Mustonen16:26

       I don't- I don't know this, but that's probably-

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       She probably also wanted to say what's up. (laughs)

   30. AMAri Matti Mustonen16:30

       For sure.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Oh, yeah. …

   1. AMAri Matti Mustonen30:00

      I go to the administrator, I go, "Hey..." And we're laughing about it. I go, "This fucking old guy..." And then we wait. And he takes like 40 to 50 minutes to come out of that shower. But see, what I think is he's shameful 'cause-

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      Oh, yeah.

   3. AMAri Matti Mustonen30:13

      And he comes out. Uh, his face is red, he has a hoodie on, and he's just ran out of the gym. Never came back.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:20

      Oh, wow.

   5. AMAri Matti Mustonen30:20

      I think he just... That's that post nut-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:22

      Yeah.

   7. AMAri Matti Mustonen30:23

      You know?

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:24

      Well, he probably is embarrassed that he did it-

   9. AMAri Matti Mustonen30:26

      Exactly.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       ... again.

   11. AMAri Matti Mustonen30:27

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       You know?

   13. AMAri Matti Mustonen30:28

       Mm-hmm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       It's probably one of those things. He's probably been kicked out of gyms before.

   15. AMAri Matti Mustonen30:31

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       Like he's like got a exit strategy.

   17. AMAri Matti Mustonen30:33

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       That's what he does. He's a shower jerker.

   19. AMAri Matti Mustonen30:36

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:36

       Those exist. That's why I don't like walking around naked. Okay? Like if you were a woman (laughs) and, uh, you have your beautiful vagina, uh, and there are co-ed showers, would you be... really be comfortable washing your butthole and your vagina in front of a bunch of men? No, of course not.

   21. AMAri Matti Mustonen30:51

       We, we, we are.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:52

       Right? So gay guys are real.

   23. AMAri Matti Mustonen30:54

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       And, uh, if your little booty hole and your little dick is out flopping around in front of them, um...... to me, as a person who d- doesn't want any of that, I would have- I would imagine that I would not enjoy watching someone stare a- at my Johnson...

   25. AMAri Matti Mustonen31:12

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       ... who wants a...

   27. AMAri Matti Mustonen31:15

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       ... (slurring words) wants to take a piece and suck on it.

   29. AMAri Matti Mustonen31:18

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       (laughs) And they, no, you know what I'm saying? Like, okay, that's, uh, we don't need to think about that.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   But it's also like…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      they're used to living in places where there's nothing but ice.

   2. AMAri Matti Mustonen45:04

      But it's also like that thing of-

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      That's why they thrive.

   4. AMAri Matti Mustonen45:05

      ... like, they say that, uh, "Oh, yeah, but if you let him go, he would die." But that's also because you just ... That's the ma-

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:11

      Well, you shouldn't have them in the first place.

   6. AMAri Matti Mustonen45:12

      That's the Matrix, the real world thing again-

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      Yeah.

   8. AMAri Matti Mustonen45:14

      ... that animals also will have that thing where they're ... If they're in the wild, I'm sure it's exactly like being in that Matrix, where in the zoo, yeah, you have all your food, all the stimulus. You're alive.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:25

      Yeah.

   10. AMAri Matti Mustonen45:25

       But it's that you gotta get that stimulus. You're created-

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:30

       Yes.

   12. AMAri Matti Mustonen45:30

       ... to struggle, to hunt, to fucking ...

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:32

       Right.

   14. AMAri Matti Mustonen45:33

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:34

       Which is the d- I mean, there's a lot of similarities in human beings.

   16. AMAri Matti Mustonen45:37

       Absolutely.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:38

       There's a lot of people that are zoo animals.

   18. AMAri Matti Mustonen45:39

       (inhales deeply) It's like when you go to nature.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:41

       Yeah.

   20. AMAri Matti Mustonen45:41

       Like, in Austin, because I do so much comedy, I've, uh, I'm also ... I'm into cycling now. And sometimes I'll cycle out of the city, but every two weeks I, uh, have enough energy to do, like, a long cycle, and when I get to complete ... That's why I love Estonia too, that it's silence in the woods that you have.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       Mm.

   22. AMAri Matti Mustonen45:58

       And you just feel (inhales deeply) ... 'Cause that's where for thousands of years, we've been there, you know?

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:04

       Yeah.

   24. AMAri Matti Mustonen46:04

       That's where we've been, in that silence.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       Yeah.

   26. AMAri Matti Mustonen46:07

       With no ... And then you just feel rejuvenated immediately, you know? I love the sea. I love the ocean. I love woods. I've always been a big ... And that's, that's, that's the same feeling you get, you know? It's just, you feel it in your blood.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:20

       Mm.

   28. AMAri Matti Mustonen46:20

       You know? Something's fucking ... It's raw.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:22

       Mm. Yeah. You're alive.

   30. AMAri Matti Mustonen46:23

       It's uncomfortable, but it's raw.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:10:22

   I don't know. …

   1. AMAri Matti Mustonen1:00:00

      'Cause the Germans were the first ones with a, uh, tank, with a Panzer, right? That was correct, right?

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

      I don't know.

   3. AMAri Matti Mustonen1:00:05

      I think so.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:05

      I think so. I think the Panzer was the first.

   5. AMAri Matti Mustonen1:00:06

      And I remember always thinking like, imagine like being like a Russian, Russian soldier or something and you're with a, like, a bolt-action rifle in a ditch.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

      And you see that fucking tank.

   7. AMAri Matti Mustonen1:00:15

      But you hear a krack, krack, krack. You don't even know what the fuck that is.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

      Yeah.

   9. AMAri Matti Mustonen1:00:19

      And you're like, "A car?" But then you s-... And dude, that feel... Clunk. Nothing. Clack, clack. Clunk.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       Oh my god.

   11. AMAri Matti Mustonen1:00:30

       Oh my god.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       Oh my god. A tank.

   13. AMAri Matti Mustonen1:00:34

       A tank.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       What an insane idea.

   15. JVJamie Vernon1:00:36

       It's basically what the scene is from All Quiet on the Western Front. It's pretty-

   16. AMAri Matti Mustonen1:00:38

       Oh.

   17. JVJamie Vernon1:00:39

       Pretty fucking badass.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   19. JVJamie Vernon1:00:40

       It's not a great time to watch it 'cause we're doing a podcast, but...

   20. AMAri Matti Mustonen1:00:42

       Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, exactly.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

       Oh, this is the first time they see the tanks.

   22. JVJamie Vernon1:00:45

       Yeah. Oh, fuck. (laughs)

   23. AMAri Matti Mustonen1:00:47

       Look at this. Look at this. Imagine.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       They just do... You can't stop them.

   25. AMAri Matti Mustonen1:00:51

       It's literally like seeing a Transformer right now. Like if you would see...

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       They have no idea what to do.

   27. JVJamie Vernon1:00:56

       This is nuts. Yeah.

   28. AMAri Matti Mustonen1:00:57

       And nobody told you.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

       Right.

   30. JVJamie Vernon1:00:59

       It's a good movie to watch.

Episode duration: 2:43:53