Joe Rogan Experience #2188 - Adam Ray

1. 0:00 – 0:58

   Kill Tony at Madison Square Garden: Holtzman, surprises, and arena chaos

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (energetic music) Yep. Adam Wayne, what's up baby?

   3. ARAdam Ray0:14

      Joe Rogan.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Good to see you, brother.

   5. ARAdam Ray0:15

      Dude, thanks for having me, man.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      My pleasure.

   7. ARAdam Ray0:17

      This is a fucking pleasure.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      How fun was this weekend, man? It was insane. (laughs)

   9. ARAdam Ray0:20

      It was, uh... Not since Cher was at the Garden has there been so much pandemonium.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       (laughs) Bro, when Brian Holtz was screaming about Billy Joel. (laughs)

   11. ARAdam Ray0:28

       I love that you're going right to that, 'cause I was like, "How long are we gonna wait until we talk about Holtzman isolating the room?"

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       He was amazing! He was amazing. He, uh... Seeing him at The Comedy Store, which we've seen him many times- Yeah.

   13. ARAdam Ray0:39

       ... and then at The Mothership now, seeing him in, in an arena like that go full on Holtzman is a real treat.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       16,000 people-

   15. ARAdam Ray0:48

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       ... and he went just like he's in the OR.

   17. ARAdam Ray0:49

       He opened with, "Fuck Billy Joel." Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       (laughs)

   19. ARAdam Ray0:50

       And then he's like, "I don't care if you're famous here!"

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       (laughs)

   21. ARAdam Ray0:53

       "It's your daughter! Fuck 'em! We get it! You play the fucking piano!"

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       (laughs)

   23. ARAdam Ray0:56

       I mean, yeah. It was wild.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       He was amazing.

2. 0:58 – 3:39

   Kill Tony’s evolution: persistence, hosting mastery, and the ‘no net’ formula

   1. ARAdam Ray0:58

      The surprises on that show, I wanna hear from your vantage point real quick, uh, from obviously doing arenas for a while now. A show like that, 'cause getting to see you for a moment before you walked out backstage and you were just like... It was cool to see you looking at it like, "What the fuck? This is wild."

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:14

      I was blown away. First of all, I have seen Kill Tony evolve from the very beginning.

   3. ARAdam Ray1:20

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:21

      So, I saw some of the earliest episodes in the Belly Room.

   5. ARAdam Ray1:24

      But you were telling me, Tony came to you and was like, "Will you do my show? I got this new..." And you were just like, "Yeah, fucking... All right, help a buddy out."

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:30

      (laughs) Yeah.

   7. ARAdam Ray1:30

      And then-

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:30

      I was-

   9. ARAdam Ray1:30

      ... you had no idea what it was.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:32

       No. I-

   11. ARAdam Ray1:32

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:32

       When, when I first did it, I was like, "Okay, let's have some fun." I think I first did it, he brought up, I, I might have first did it at the Icehouse. They used to do it at the Icehouse in the Little Room.

   13. ARAdam Ray1:41

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:41

       So, that was probably one of the first ones that I did. And I did a b- a bunch in the Belly Room, and then it moved to the Main Room, and then it moved to Texas when everything shut down. They would try to do it in the Main Room for a while with no audience.

   15. ARAdam Ray1:53

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:53

       They did quite a few episodes with zero audience.

   17. ARAdam Ray1:56

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:56

       It's just a story of persistence and getting-

   19. ARAdam Ray2:00

       That's what I keep telling young comics.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:01

       Yeah.

   21. ARAdam Ray2:01

       The consistency is so overlooked in this business. And Tony just believed in it, and also kept finding ways to evolve it. And the more people... You guys coming on, and then, like, you'd see Saget come on. And like, more and more people started to go, "Oh, something different to fuck around with," right?

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       Yeah, and he just got better at it, too.

   23. ARAdam Ray2:19

       Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:20

       You know? I mean, he's, he's a wizard at hosting that show.

   25. ARAdam Ray2:24

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:25

       He's got... He's managing all these moving parts, he knows when to bring people in and when to... You know, he knows like, how to work the panel.

   27. ARAdam Ray2:33

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:33

       He knows how to like, let you go, let somebody else go. He's like... It's a dance, man.

   29. ARAdam Ray2:38

       Oh, yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:38

       And the dude is the best at it. He's the fucking best at it. So, for me, walking out there and seeing that crowd, I was like, "This is insane." And to see the Black Keys on stage-
3. 3:39 – 7:02

   Adam Ray’s Dr. Phil character: accuracy, intent, and how it became a phenomenon

   1. ARAdam Ray3:39

      And you've never seen, uh, me do Dr. Phil probably live, right?

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:42

      No, I don't think I have.

   3. ARAdam Ray3:43

      How was that?

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:44

      I think I might have saw it once at The Mothership. How many did you do at The Mothership?

   5. ARAdam Ray3:49

      I've done two at... I've only done it on Kill Tony twice, and then I did two Phil shows on a Sunday there, but you were gone.

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:53

      Oh, that's right. Okay, that's right.

   7. ARAdam Ray3:55

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:55

      No, so that was the first time I ever saw you do it on stage.

   9. ARAdam Ray3:57

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:58

       And you know, I, I know Dr. Phil. Know him well.

   11. ARAdam Ray4:00

       I know.

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:00

       He's been on the podcast a bunch of times.

   13. ARAdam Ray4:01

       Yes, I know.

   14. JRJoe Rogan4:01

       I'm good friends with his son.

   15. ARAdam Ray4:02

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:03

       So... (laughs) You fucking nail it!

   17. ARAdam Ray4:05

       So what is that like then?

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:06

       You nail it.

   19. ARAdam Ray4:06

       Thanks, man.

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:07

       It's gotta be weird for him. It's gotta be weird for him.

   21. ARAdam Ray4:10

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:10

       This guy is doing a comedic version of him-

   23. ARAdam Ray4:12

       Totally.

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:12

       ... and it's like the most popular guest on Kill Tony. (laughs)

   25. ARAdam Ray4:15

       What the fuck, dude? Of all the... I mean, dude. (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:19

       (laughs) It's a great guest, dude.

   27. ARAdam Ray4:20

       Yeah, man.

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:20

       It's a great guest. And, and, you know, the fucking... And that, that's not the best image, because there, you can kinda see that you got that thing on your head.

   29. ARAdam Ray4:27

       Yeah, the ball cap, yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:28

       But you can't tell-
4. 7:02 – 8:40

   Impromptu celebrity drop-ins: Post Malone, Tucker Carlson, and the joy of surprise

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:02

      No, Tony, Tony takes a lot of risks. And he likes to fly off the seat of his pants, he likes a little bit of chaos on the show. Like, twice I showed up with people and I just brought them on stage. One time it was Post Malone-

   2. ARAdam Ray7:14

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:14

      ... and the other time it was Tucker Carlson. (laughs)

   4. ARAdam Ray7:16

      Oh, I saw that. Wait, that was impromptu?

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:18

      Totally impromptu. They had no idea they were gonna do it until they did it. When I got there with Post, I was like, "You gotta come to the club, let's go hang out." We were having just a great... I fucking love that guy.

   6. ARAdam Ray7:30

      Yeah, dude.

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:30

      He's such a nice guy.

   8. ARAdam Ray7:32

      Yeah, he really is.

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:32

      He's so nice to everybody.

   10. ARAdam Ray7:34

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:34

       He's nice to everybody at the bar-

   12. ARAdam Ray7:36

       Yep.

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:36

       ... downstairs-

   14. ARAdam Ray7:37

       Yep.

   15. JRJoe Rogan7:37

       ... all the staff.

   16. ARAdam Ray7:37

       Yep.

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:38

       He's just so normal, man. He just hangs with you. He can just hang with you. And so, anyway, we're just hanging out, so, you know, we're like, "Let's go to the club." And so we get to the club and Tony was there. I think we went to dinner. Did we go to dinner?

   18. NANarrator7:53

       Yeah, yep.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:53

       Yeah, we went to dinner. And then after dinner... W- did you go to Eddie V's?

   20. NANarrator7:56

       Yep.

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:57

       Yes.

   22. ARAdam Ray7:57

       Dude, good call.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:58

       Eddie V's is the shit.

   24. ARAdam Ray7:59

       It's the best.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:59

       So we, we leave there and I go, "Let's go check out the club," and it was Kill Tony. I go, "You gotta see this show that they're doing, it's called Kill Tony, it's crazy."

   26. ARAdam Ray8:07

       Oh, wow. So you're intro-ing two-

   27. JRJoe Rogan8:09

       So-

   28. ARAdam Ray8:09

       ... him to the show.

   29. JRJoe Rogan8:10

       He has no idea. He has no idea what's going on. He has no idea, uh, that I'm roping him into this.

   30. ARAdam Ray8:14

       (laughs)
5. 8:40 – 12:13

   Roast craftsmanship and mutual respect: David Lucas vs. Tony Hinchcliffe

   1. ARAdam Ray8:40

      Dude, some of David's lines are so spot on, the joke is just as good-

   2. JRJoe Rogan8:44

      He's so good.

   3. ARAdam Ray8:44

      ... as like the, like, like, uh, like what did, uh, Jeff Ross call David Tell when he came out on night two at the Garden? Uh, he goes, "You look like you run a, um, you manage a circus in Bosnia or something."

   4. JRJoe Rogan8:53

      (laughs) Something like that.

   5. ARAdam Ray8:54

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan8:55

      Lucas said that I looked like... Well, because I was wearing that crazy fur coat and the glasses, he goes, "You look like my 11th grade teacher-"

   7. ARAdam Ray9:01

      (sighs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:01

      ... "that you catch outside of school." (laughs)

   9. ARAdam Ray9:07

      (laughs) Dude, I called Dave once, I go, uh, I go, "All right, Hootie and the Bloated Fish."

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:12

       (laughs)

   11. ARAdam Ray9:12

       Or, uh, yeah, dude. He, Dave... Uh, that's another part of the show too where it's like, there's now been so many established parts that people look forward to.

   12. JRJoe Rogan9:19

       Oh, yeah.

   13. ARAdam Ray9:19

       Which makes the, uh, uh, an arena show so exciting for the fans, 'cause they're like, "Wow, I'm gonna see surprises and bucket pulls," or you have so many elements that are spontaneous, right? And that-

   14. JRJoe Rogan9:28

       Yeah. That was spon-... David saying those things was spontaneous in front of 16,000 people.

   15. ARAdam Ray9:33

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan9:33

       And crushing.

   17. ARAdam Ray9:34

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan9:35

       He's the best at that. Him and Tony, back and forth. I told them they should do a podcast with just David Lucas and Tony talking shit to each other.

   19. ARAdam Ray9:42

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan9:42

       'Cause there's compilations on the internet that are like a fucking hour long-

   21. ARAdam Ray9:45

       (laughs) Yeah, I know, dude.

   22. JRJoe Rogan9:46

       ... of just David and Tony-

   23. ARAdam Ray9:48

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan9:48

       ... just shitting on, uh, and laughing-

   25. ARAdam Ray9:49

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan9:49

       ... while they're shitting on each other.

   27. ARAdam Ray9:50

       Oh, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan9:51

       It's the best lighthearted shitting on people I've ever seen from two wizards at it.

   29. ARAdam Ray9:56

       Totally.

   30. JRJoe Rogan9:57

       Like, they're casting spells at each other.
6. 12:13 – 16:20

   Comedy as rebellion + the modern outrage economy (views vs late-night)

   1. ARAdam Ray12:13

      Do, do you, after, uh, you know, all years of doing this, do things like that, I don't know, like, mean a little more to, like, be able to be, to see that, like, something like that live? Or is it, like, uh, does it give you, um, I don't know, a, a little more juice for just comedy in general? To know that, like, we're in a cool time, where shit like that is possible and happening, I guess?

   2. JRJoe Rogan12:31

      Dude, we're in an am- an amazing time. It's an amazing time for standup. If you're funny and, and you're trying to have fun and just go out there and be silly, people are looking for that right now, man. And they're looking for something that rebels against this mind virus that's telling you how to think and behave. We don't like it.

   3. ARAdam Ray12:53

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan12:54

      Like, shut the fuck up. You're not compassionate and also controlling. That's not possible.

   5. ARAdam Ray12:58

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan12:59

      This fucking scolding, shrill fucking stupidity that you hear from people telling you how you have to think and behave, that nothing, that these things are not up for debate.

   7. ARAdam Ray13:11

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan13:11

      These are, like, existential threats to humanity and civilization. They aren't-

   9. ARAdam Ray13:15

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan13:15

       ... up for debate.

   11. ARAdam Ray13:16

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:16

       Shut the fuck up.

   13. ARAdam Ray13:17

       I don't-

   14. JRJoe Rogan13:18

       Shut the fuck up.

   15. ARAdam Ray13:18

       I'm getting more and more just cognitive, uh, of, like, uh, the... just jokes. Like, I get more and more bummed that people get really offended by certain things, 'cause I'm like-

   16. JRJoe Rogan13:28

       You just gotta stop paying attention. The, the key is, like, there's just too-

   17. ARAdam Ray13:31

       It's just jokes. They're just jokes. Like, no one's really... Especially at, at our level. Like, people making those jokes, it's like, 'cause it sounded funny and it, like, was a, a, you know... I don't know. You know, to each his own and everything's subjective, but like...

   18. JRJoe Rogan13:42

       Yeah, but this is what's going on, dude. There's always going to be people that wouldn't enjoy it, but they get to see it now.

   19. ARAdam Ray13:49

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan13:50

       Whereas before, people just found out what you did. You went to a club, you know? If you liked the guy, you liked the guy. You saw the guy on TV, you went to go see him live.

   21. ARAdam Ray13:59

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:59

       And that was it.

   23. ARAdam Ray14:00

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:01

       Now, you're getting exposed to people that would never go see you live.

   25. ARAdam Ray14:05

       Oh, bro, I get hit-

   26. JRJoe Rogan14:05

       And they just wanna talk so much shit.

   27. ARAdam Ray14:07

       (laughs) Oh, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan14:08

       But that is just because you're getting exposed to more people, so there's pros and cons. The pros is, the show gets 16 million views. That's insane.

   29. ARAdam Ray14:17

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan14:17

       Like, what does an average Jimmy Fallon show get? Let's find out what that is. Like, what's, uh, what's, uh, the amount of people?
7. 16:20 – 27:53

   Media trust and political narratives: CNN laughter, The View’s old Trump clip, and ‘gaslighting’

   1. JRJoe Rogan16:20

      Which is ironic. Did you see what happened with Colbert's audience?

   2. ARAdam Ray16:23

      No.

   3. JRJoe Rogan16:23

      So, uh, Kaitlan Collins from CNN is on.

   4. ARAdam Ray16:26

      Mm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan16:26

      And, um, see if I... I retweeted it. It's fucking hilarious. Constantine from, uh, Trigonometry, uh, tweeted it, and I, I retweeted it. I was like, "This is crazy." I just want you to see it.

   6. ARAdam Ray16:38

      Okay.

   7. JRJoe Rogan16:39

      Before I describe it. But it is, it's the audience laughing at CNN being honest. Watch this.

   8. ARAdam Ray16:48

      Wow, okay.

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:48

      'Cause it's crazy.

   10. I don't know why I can't get to Twitter.

   11. What's that, bro?

   12. I'm trying to get to Twitter. It stopped loading.

   13. Oh, this is the government. They're attacking Twitter-

   14. Adaming.

   15. ... because of the Elon Musk thing.

   16. I think it's a bad thing.

   17. Guaranteed. Let's just call it that.

   18. ARAdam Ray16:58

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:59

       Start from, start it from the beginning and, and go big screen, 'cause this is so preposterous. It's- (laughs)

   20. NANarrator17:04

       Trump has kind of been thrown on, on his heels by this, and he's not really sure how to go after Vice President Harris. He knew his attack lines on, on President Biden. He really has struggled with how to, how to go after someone who's 20 years younger than him, who is a different gender, a different ra- race. It, it's kind of been this moment where he has not been able to coalesce around a single attack line.

   21. NANarrator17:26

       (smacks lips) I know you guys are objective over there, that you just report the news as it is.

   22. NANarrator17:31

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:31

       Oh, I know, uh, CNN makes it, uh, no, but-

   24. NANarrator17:33

       Is that supposed to be a laugh line?

   25. NANarrator17:34

       I know it wasn't supposed to be, but, uh, I guess it is.

   26. NANarrator17:38

       Trump has kind of been thrown o-

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:38

       Bro.

   28. ARAdam Ray17:39

       Wow.

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:39

       Bro.

   30. ARAdam Ray17:41

       Wow. (laughs)
8. 27:53 – 41:08

   Campaign performance as entertainment: Kamala’s ‘say it to my face,’ debates, and Clinton as the GOAT

   1. JRJoe Rogan27:53

      But I do have to say that that one speech that she gave right after they decided that she was gonna be the nominee-

   2. ARAdam Ray27:58

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan27:58

      ... that one speech where she said, "If you're gonna say something, why don't you say it to my face?" It was-

   4. ARAdam Ray28:04

      (laughs) Kinda great.

   5. JRJoe Rogan28:04

      ... great timing. It was-

   6. ARAdam Ray28:06

      It's middle school recess shit.

   7. JRJoe Rogan28:07

      It wasn't just that, man. The way that she delivered it was, like, very clear.

   8. ARAdam Ray28:11

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan28:11

      It was prepared, right?

   10. ARAdam Ray28:13

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan28:13

       And so, that means, like, she's coachable, you know, which is very important-

   12. ARAdam Ray28:17

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan28:17

       ... if you wanna be a, a president.

   14. ARAdam Ray28:19

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan28:19

       You gotta be coachable.

   16. ARAdam Ray28:20

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan28:21

       You know? So-

   18. ARAdam Ray28:21

       Oh, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan28:22

       So, she figured out how to deliver a banger of a speech, right? Like, play that, because it's pretty powerful.

   20. ARAdam Ray28:28

       Yeah, I think she'll have something to say back to 'em, 'cause-

   21. JRJoe Rogan28:31

       No, but, but this is the thing. That's a speech.

   22. ARAdam Ray28:33

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan28:33

       But when you go to toe-to-toe-to-toe, when you're just talking off the top of your head, that's where she has some issues.

   24. ARAdam Ray28:39

       Mm-hmm. Oh, you think, oh, yeah?

   25. JRJoe Rogan28:40

       Yeah, I think people lock up-

   26. ARAdam Ray28:42

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan28:42

       ... when they know that everybody is criticizing every word they're saying. And you're, you're applying for a job as essentially the mom of the world.

   28. ARAdam Ray28:50

       Oh, wow. Wow, wow.

   29. JRJoe Rogan28:51

       Or the dad of the world.

   30. ARAdam Ray28:52

       Yeah, yeah.
9. 41:08 – 1:00:52

   Andrew Dice Clay: controversy, performance art, and Rogan’s early mentorship lesson

   1. JRJoe Rogan41:08

      just got fucked. My God, just... Yeah, f- what was it, that picture? Yeah. Yeah, there was a picture. He was trying to be funny and it wasn't funny. Yeah. And it was just unfortunately, not- Wrong place, wrong time, wrong hands, wrong boobs. Trying to be a comedian, trying to be funny. Ugh. You know? Oh, wait, real quick, I just had a thought. When Dice came out and did his, um... (laughs) 'cause I wanted to... That, first of all, talking to him about being back in the Garden, you're just, you just saying just being funny or whatever, and I'm watching him do his hickory dickory joke at the Garden again was wild, dude. Yeah. And hearing him talk about being back there was so... That- that's a, there's so many small things in between the entire Garden experience that I was like, I want to not ever forget this because seeing him even just be there, I was like, that's crazy. Well, Dice was kind of on the outs with the comedy community. It was, to me, it was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen. It was real weird, because he did MTV and he got banned for life from MTV for telling jokes. I forget what the jokes were. During the Pauly area or no?

   2. ... yeah, it was kinda around that time-

   3. ARAdam Ray42:09

      Mm-hmm.

   4. JRJoe Rogan42:09

      ... maybe a little after Pauly was off of MTV. But, um, he had these jokes. I forget even what he was joking about.

   5. ARAdam Ray42:18

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan42:18

      Like, tampons or something.

   7. ARAdam Ray42:20

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan42:20

      Oh! (laughs) You know? It was ... I don't even know what the fuck he was joking around about.

   9. ARAdam Ray42:25

      Yeah, that was perfect.

   10. JRJoe Rogan42:26

       But it was Andrew Dice Clay.

   11. ARAdam Ray42:29

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan42:29

       You asked the dirtiest comedian of all time to do a set-

   13. ARAdam Ray42:33

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan42:34

       ... and then you got mad when he does the kinda jokes that Andrew Dice Clay does.

   15. ARAdam Ray42:39

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan42:39

       Do you even fucking watch his shit?

   17. ARAdam Ray42:41

       No, they probably didn't.

   18. JRJoe Rogan42:42

       Do you ever watch Dice Rules?

   19. ARAdam Ray42:43

       They heard he was popular, and they just were like, "Get the guy-

   20. JRJoe Rogan42:45

       I don't-

   21. ARAdam Ray42:46

       ... who everyone's watching."

   22. JRJoe Rogan42:47

       ... know what the fuck they thought-

   23. ARAdam Ray42:48

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan42:48

       ... if they thought he was gonna do something different because he was on MTV. I don't know what they thought. But anyway, they banned him for life. And there was a lot of comedians that came out against him. A lot of comedians said that they thought his act was sexist and racist. And yeah, it was.

   25. ARAdam Ray43:03

       (clears throat)

   26. JRJoe Rogan43:03

       Like, but it was a character.

   27. ARAdam Ray43:05

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan43:06

       He was deli- ... He ... Like, there's a man, his name is Andrew Silverstein, and then there's this character, Andrew Dice Clay.

   29. ARAdam Ray43:12

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan43:12

       And, you know, the whole idea was like that some stupid people like him. But stupid people like a lot of things.
10. 1:00:52 – 1:08:49

    Joe’s Netflix live special: fear, overpreparation, and treating it like a normal set

    1. ARAdam Ray1:00:52

       Doing something different. But the live thing is so not guaranteed, man. You're prepped, you're ready, you've, you've done live. But, like, still, you're, you're still, eh, it's still a new, uh, challenge, right? I mean-

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Oh, it was, it... I said no to it at first.

    3. ARAdam Ray1:01:04

       Right.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:01:04

       I was like, "I don't wanna do that. Fuck that." Because-

    5. ARAdam Ray1:01:06

       What put you over the top, and what... And what were the nerves like-

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:01:08

       'Cause I was-

    7. ARAdam Ray1:01:09

       ... that were-

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:01:09

       Well, what put me over the top was I was like, "Why are you scared, Buzzy?"

    9. ARAdam Ray1:01:12

       (laughs) Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:01:12

        Like, this is like, "What do you like to do?"

    11. ARAdam Ray1:01:14

        Yeah, yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

        You like to do things that scare you.

    13. ARAdam Ray1:01:15

        Yeah, yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:16

        You do this thing, you fucking bitch.

    15. ARAdam Ray1:01:17

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:17

        And that's exactly what I thought to myself, 'cause I said no. I was on the phone with my manager, and she was... She said, "Netflix wants to do a live special." I was like, "Fuck that." I go, "I don't wanna do that. No, no, no. Tell them no." Maybe I'll do a, a special, but at the... At that time, I wasn't even thinking about doing a special. I was just working on comedy. I was just having fun and just doing comedy. And th- And then being at my own club, it was fucking wonderful. And then I was like, "Why are you being such a bitch?" Like, as I dr-... When I said no.

    17. ARAdam Ray1:01:44

        It's weird, yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:44

        And then I, when I got home, I think, or maybe the next morning, I called her up and I said, "Don't tell him no yet. Let me think about it." And then the next day, I said, "I'm gonna do it."

    19. ARAdam Ray1:01:51

        Conversations with other people about it, or you just kind of had a-

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:53

        Nope. I didn't tell anybody.

    21. ARAdam Ray1:01:54

        ... a car pep talk, or what?

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:55

        No. No. Just my own head-

    23. ARAdam Ray1:01:58

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:58

        ... was like, "This is what you're supposed to do, stupid."

    25. ARAdam Ray1:02:00

        Yeah, dude. Yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:02:00

        Just do something, do something that scares the shit out of you, 'cause that scares the shit out of you. But I just realized, like, I'm having great shows. I know that I'm ha-... The materi- material's tight.

    27. ARAdam Ray1:02:11

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:11

        It's funny. I'm like, "What am I worried about?" I'm not gonna be able to... I do it every night. Just do it like a regular night. And I do everything live. I do the UFC live. I do-

    29. ARAdam Ray1:02:20

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:20

        I used to do y- YouTube videos we used to do live.

Episode duration: 3:11:58