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Show kickoff and meeting Dennis Quaid
- NANarrator
(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
- DQDennis Quaid
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- NANarrator
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)
- JRJoe Rogan
Nice to meet you, man.
- DQDennis Quaid
You too, man. Really.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's been a pleasure. I've- I've seen so many of your fucking movies. It's always weird when you meet someone that you've seen so many times in movies, you know.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like, "All right. There he is."
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"A real person."
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah, there, there they are.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DQDennis Quaid
That's... (laughs)
- 0:26 – 2:44
Quaid’s gospel album: faith roots, songwriting, and rehab inspiration
- JRJoe Rogan
I didn't know you do, uh, you're- you released a gospel album though.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah, last, uh, last year.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's wild.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah, it's, uh, called Fallen: A Gospel Record for Sinners-
- JRJoe Rogan
How-
- DQDennis Quaid
... because I wanted the biggest possible audience
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DQDennis Quaid
I could get.
- JRJoe Rogan
Gospel Record for Sinners?
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
How long you been singing gospel?
- DQDennis Quaid
Well, you know, basically I grew up at the Baptist Church, and so it's five songs that I grew up with, and it's five songs that I wrote before and during the making of the record. It's kind of like my spiritual journey, I guess. That's the way it turned out in the end. My wife, she put the, uh, order together, and that's what it seems to be, kind of my journey in life.
- JRJoe Rogan
Was this something that you had thought about for a while, or did it just kinda...
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah, uh, yeah, I wrote this song, uh, called On My Way to Heaven, and, uh, I wrote it for my mom to let her know that I was okay after I got out of, like, rehab and for cocaine in 1990. And, um, then, uh, w- uh, then I wrote the Fallen, which is kinda, like, taken from, um... Remember that movie Thunder Road-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DQDennis Quaid
... with Robert Mitchum? You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
It's kind of like in that vein or that- that kind of feel to it, and there- there's this highway called the Devil's Backbone up near Bandera. And so it's- it's a ride with the devil.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- DQDennis Quaid
And you wind up getting left for dead on the side of the road.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, this is just something that you felt like- like, "Fuck it. I've done everything else. Why not do a gospel album?"
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah, I- I've, you know, I've- I've recorded. I've always been a songwriter. I got a guitar when I was 12 years old. My grandfather bought me at, you know, at Western Auto. It's a great place to buy guitars.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DQDennis Quaid
And, uh, uh, you know, I- I realized I was never gonna shred a guitar, so I... A songwriting became like a defense, you know, something you could bring to a band.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DQDennis Quaid
And, uh, so I've always done it, and, uh, but I got this offer from, uh, Gaither, uh, 'cause they heard, Bill Gaither had heard the song On My Way to Heaven, uh, asked me to do a gospel record, so said yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- 2:44 – 3:31
Collaborators and legends: Tanya Tucker, Kris Kristofferson, Brandi Carlile
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah. It was a great experience really, really. And, uh, On My Way to Heaven, in fact, um, Tanya Tucker heard it, and she called me up out of the blue. I hadn't seen her, like, in 30 years, and, uh, said she wanted to do it, so I said okay, and then she called me 15 minutes later, and she said Kris Kristofferson wants to do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- DQDennis Quaid
And, uh, I said wow, you know? So, um, and Brandi Carlile's doing, uh, uh, backup singing on it, and, uh, it's... And myself, and we're gonna put that out this year as a single.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. That's awesome.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- DQDennis Quaid
Kris is just the greatest human being.
- JRJoe Rogan
I love that guy.
- DQDennis Quaid
I love him.
- JRJoe Rogan
One of the Highway Men.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? Come on.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DQDennis Quaid
No kidding.
- 3:31 – 5:47
From Houston to Hollywood: early training, family influence, and a vet career detour
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. So you were telling me that you- you got to Hollywood in- in the '70s?
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah. I went to- I went out there... I was born in Houston, you know, and grew up there, and, uh, I was in acting class, uh, Mr. Pickett, we always bring him up 'cause he... So many people actually started working... My brother was, you know, his student as well, and, uh, my brother was already out there in- in, uh, California, and he- he had been nominated for The Last Detail and stuff, so I kind of realized, hey, you can actually do this stuff, (laughs) you know, and get paid for it. And, um, I went out there in '75 and, uh, you know, uh, just driven and got an agent after about a year.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. Did you have any previous acting experience, or is it something you wanted-
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah, I did drama in, uh, in college. I wasn't serious about it in, uh, high school. I was gonna be a veterinarian. That's what I wanted to be. Um...
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- DQDennis Quaid
But... Yeah. I was a vet's assistant, um, up at East Texas. I'd spent summers up in East Texas, you know, in Jacksonville, Frankston, and, uh, the... I worked for a vet when I was, you know, 14, 15, and, uh, that's what I was gonna do until one day we did like a house call out to this guy's farm to castrate his horse, and the farmer didn't want to sit out there in the field, uh, waiting for him to wake up from a full anesthetic, so they- they only gave him half of it and cinched his- cinched his legs up like this, and, uh, that horse stood up on two legs, and it was just... Man, it was horrific, and that kind of, uh... I think that's what changed my mind, maybe I should be an actor. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DQDennis Quaid
And I'll play a veterinarian. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
The horse... Yeah, I'm sure the horse was not enjoying that.
- DQDennis Quaid
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's... Yeah, that's got to be a bad feel... Also, as a man, like, I don't want to do that.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't... I didn't do that to my dog.
- DQDennis Quaid
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't do that to any of my dogs.
- DQDennis Quaid
Now you can get that done for free in California if-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. (laughs)
- DQDennis Quaid
... if you want. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Even if you're a person.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What the fuck? Yeah. Very different in the '70s, huh?
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah, yeah.
- 5:47 – 8:35
1970s Hollywood as a creative ‘golden age’ and the shift to modern conformity
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you went through... Like, '70s in Hollywood must have been a weird experience, man.
- DQDennis Quaid
Oh, it was fantastic. It was, it was amazing, man. That- that- that whole era of the '70s, you know, which started with, uh, Bonnie and Clyde and- and, uh, Easy Rider.
- JRJoe Rogan
Great films.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Great films during that time.
- DQDennis Quaid
But there was... The French New Wave, you know, is what they called it, you know.... kind of more handheld, grittier, and i- it was the return of the, the anti-hero and the rebel hero. And, 'cause Hollywood had lost touch with their audience. You know, they were making movies like Toby Tyler and, you know, these bloated musicals, which... But, and, uh, so it, it became like the inmates had taken over the asylum. There was really new, exciting stuff getting done, like, you know, Badlands and, uh, The Conversation, and you know, which led to The Godfather. And it's, uh, that was, I think, the golden age of filmmaking.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, certainly some amazing films came out of that era.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And just, uh, just seeing Los Angeles today and imagining what it was like in the '70s, it had to be... Because, I mean, really movies, if you really think about it, they were only a few decades old back then.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was a new thing, essentially.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know?
- DQDennis Quaid
They had just, like, perfected it. I mean, (laughs) really, it was only like 10 years into where, uh, all the movies were color. They, they were making-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DQDennis Quaid
... black and white movies up till like '63, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, like The Hustler was black and white.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was '63.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
And, uh, it was an exciting time. Like I said, the inmates had taken over the asylum and i- it was a feeling like you could do just about anything. And music too was really happening in Los Angeles as well. I mean, record deals were getting signed left and right. And, uh, it, you know, there was this f- it, it's kind of turned upside down now because of all that rebellious attitude of the '70s and ev- everybody did it, sort of became the establishment, I think.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, bizarre, right?
- DQDennis Quaid
Same. It's, it's really kind of turned up on its ear, because the w- it started to kind of really turn politically correct in the '90s. And it, it became kind of a nobody stays at a party after 11 o'clock. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DQDennis Quaid
You know, no matter where-
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that when you went into rehab?
- DQDennis Quaid
No matter... (laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DQDennis Quaid
After that, no matter where you're going-
- 8:35 – 12:50
Hollywood ideology, cancel culture, and how polarization hardened in the 1990s
- DQDennis Quaid
I guess everybody had kids too at that, by that point. But then it just, it got to where, um, where we are today that, you know, you're getting warned to keep your mouth shut, because-
- JRJoe Rogan
Bizarre.
- DQDennis Quaid
... of... It, it turned upside down, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's also one ideology dominates, especially in Hollywood, dominates the entire business. You know, one of the things that I said that drove me crazy about Hollywood was there's people that had differing opinions about things, but they would never speak out because it could damage their career.
- DQDennis Quaid
Right, that's what's going on now.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it really can. They, they will fucking blackball you.
- DQDennis Quaid
They will. I mean, they've tried, uh, you know, there were a couple attempts to cancel me while we were making Reagan, in fact. You know, uh, kind of half-hearted, I guess. But, uh, it's, it, it has become that, you know? And that ain't right. I mean, back then, you know, few people really were, I guess, conservative. Let's throw out parties and just call it conservative. I mean, you had John Wayne.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jon Voight.
- DQDennis Quaid
Uh, yeah, but e- you didn't know if Jon Voight was conservative back then, so he was...
- JRJoe Rogan
He wasn't vocal about it?
- DQDennis Quaid
N- not back in the '70s, no. And, but it was basically John Wayne and Charlton Heston.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DQDennis Quaid
And that, you know, that was pretty much about it. But, or anybody wearing a tie.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DQDennis Quaid
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, how did the rebels become... Like, what the fuck happened? How did the rebels become the establishment?
- DQDennis Quaid
That's, that is... Uh, we went through an era where there was, remember there was tolerance? That was what we were trying to do, like back in the teens, I think, in the 10s, where you'd tolerate other groups and all that. And that didn't last very long, and seems like one had it over the other. But if you ask me where this great divide really started, politically, I think, of course there was Watergate, but you come up to like when the Republicans had their, uh, Contract with America, I think it was like '94, im- you know, the year that Clinton was gonna be a, a lame duck president, they had that, uh, those midterms. And, um, then it started to become just along party lines, where there was no... You know, you were a traitor if you went to the other side, or-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DQDennis Quaid
'Cause we had conservative, um, conservative, uh, Democrats, we had liberal Republicans up until that point. You know, that's wh- what I grew up with. And, uh, that wasn't good enough anymore. And so it started there, and, you know, and then continued, and the, the, you know, then the Democrats really took over, and they really do it really well.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DQDennis Quaid
A- a- as far as, as that stuff, of turning things on their head. And, um, uh, you know, they're... I- I feel like today they're, you know, they were using the judicial system, uh, against Trump.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, for sure.
- DQDennis Quaid
Which is, you know, really off the reservation.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they're using the judicial system even- against Trump. The entire media establishment, other than Fox News-
- DQDennis Quaid
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... is completely against anything Republican.
- DQDennis Quaid
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's...... full, fill- Did you see on Colbert the other day, uh, Kristen Collins, that her name?
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah. Yeah, I saw that.
- JRJoe Rogan
The way I- she said-
- 12:50 – 18:09
Trump prosecutions, media narratives, and ‘banana republic’ warnings
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, like, I've heard people repeat- I've had conversations with people, they go, "Well, you know, Trump's a felon. He's, he's convicted of 34 felonies." I go, "Okay, do you know what those things are? Do you know, do you know that they are misdemeanors?"
- DQDennis Quaid
Misdemeanors. "Did you know that the, you know, the statute of limitations had, had run out on this little misdemeanor?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, the whole thing is the same-
- DQDennis Quaid
And it wasn't a campaign contribution. Their, they just did all kind of gymnastics to make it happen. And then, the third person in the, uh, in line in the Justice Department comes back to New York to oversee this case. And, uh, you know, just...
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just incredible.
- DQDennis Quaid
It's dangerous.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's incredible. Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
It's incredibly dangerous, because-
- JRJoe Rogan
Because it could also be turned around.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? And there has to come a point where we go, "Stop."
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? We have to s- we have to stop this, or we're losing our country.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah, I think they're more concerned with being in power than they are with preserving the idea of democracy.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's- Yeah, I totally agree with that. And I think par- far- some of that was certainly they were emboldened by the fact they're essentially running the country without a president for the last three years.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause he's, you know-
- DQDennis Quaid
He's not-
- JRJoe Rogan
He's not there.
- DQDennis Quaid
Not there, really.
- JRJoe Rogan
And since he's decided that he's not gonna run again, he's gone. He's vanished.
- DQDennis Quaid
It makes me- Who's running it now?
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly.
- DQDennis Quaid
You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
And then, the crazy thing is-
- DQDennis Quaid
And then, it's almost like that-
- JRJoe Rogan
... Kamala Harris.
- DQDennis Quaid
... who's gonna, who's, who'll be running then because the, uh, really can't see her, like, being in charge.
- JRJoe Rogan
No. The, it's a figurehead. That's all it is. And what's really wild is the- TheBabylonBee had a hilarious, uh, little caption. They said, uh, "'When I get in office, I'm gonna change things,' says the woman who's in office right now."
- DQDennis Quaid
(laughs)
- 18:09 – 21:26
Tech oligarchy and information control: Google, algorithms, and social media censorship
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, they have so much money. The thing ab- have you ever seen the difference between Democrat donors versus Republican donors? Like, there was a chart that someone made about the amount of people that donate to the Democratic party versus the amount of people that vote- that d- donate to the Republican party. It's shocking. Big donors-
- DQDennis Quaid
Big donors.
- JRJoe Rogan
Shocking.
- DQDennis Quaid
It's... That's where it's completely turned upside down.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
Because it used to be Republicans who were known as the fat cats and big oil and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DQDennis Quaid
... you know, big business and all that would, uh, would be the big supporters and donors of the Republicans, and it was like those five and ten dollar donations were- of, uh, the Democratic party, because they're really a coalition of groups. But then, I think starting with Obama, es- especially, it started, it- with social media, it really started to, uh, get into more of a corporate type of tech oligarchy-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- DQDennis Quaid
... that is-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, tech oligarchy.
- DQDennis Quaid
... kind of, going on.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a great way to put it. That's really what it is, right?
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a tech oligarchy. The te- the tech thing's nuts 'cause nobody anticipated (clears throat) that these corporations were gonna have this insane amount of influence and power over people. You know, I've had this guy Robert Epstein on my podcast before. I don't know if you've ever seen his work, but he ba- basically does a statistical analysis of Google search results, and what Google does to change people's opinions and how much of an effect it can have on swaying an election. Because if you go look for Trump rally, you'll see a bunch of Kamala Harris things. If you go-
- DQDennis Quaid
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... to try to find something negative about Kamala, you'll find something... All these positive things about Kamala. So these quick searches, where... Which most people do. Most people aren't doing deep dives for hours-
- DQDennis Quaid
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... where they're going and, you know, reading and finding other alternative sources of information. They get their information from a Google search. And that Google search, if you can curate it and make sure that all the positive stuff about the people that you want is up front, and all the negative stuff about the people that you don't want is up front, you could shift people's opinions by 20%, 30%.
- DQDennis Quaid
Of course you can.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
You know? And it's... With the algorithms that they have, they already know your preferences and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
... basically, you know, who you are to begin with.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- DQDennis Quaid
And, uh, they can maneuver that way. It's not-
- JRJoe Rogan
And it should be illegal.
- DQDennis Quaid
It's not just the Russians. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
We should have search results... Which s- search results should be completely unbiased. Like, that should be, that should be a law, because if you can curate searches, if you can curate people's access to information and hide things, that should be illegal. Th- there should be nothing that has anything to do with political ideology when it comes to searching for information. It should just be whatever the information is.
- DQDennis Quaid
I completely agree with you. As... Well, for one thing, as Ronald Reagan said, "Democracy can handle it."
- 21:26 – 38:25
‘Reagan’ film censorship claims and the broader debate over speech and propaganda
- DQDennis Quaid
But (clears throat) we're kind of... Excuse me. We're kind of going through, uh, with Reagan right now, the movie, we're going through a, um... We're being, uh... Censorship is happening to us, uh, through Facebook. They, uh... Facebook banned advertising and, uh, a lot of the podcasts. This one will probably be banned (laughs) on Facebook, uh, a- as well. It's over the last couple of months.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just because it's a po- Is it a positive film about Reagan? Is that what the idea is that's bothering them?
- DQDennis Quaid
Well, it's, um... I see it as it's a, it's a bio- you know, it's a biopic is really what it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
It follows him from when he was a, a boy in Dixon all the way through when he said goodbye to the American people when he was diagnosed for Alzheimer's, you know, after he was president. And, um, it's a fight against communism, you know, which he fought all of his life. And... But they... The reason being was that the, the content in it was, uh, an attempt to sway an election. A, a movie. I mean, the last time I heard, you know, Reagan was on the ballot 40 years ago was, was the last time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you think if you made a positive Obama movie it would be to sway an election?
- DQDennis Quaid
Well, there was an Obama movie that came out during an election year in 2020. And, you know, nothing about that. And to me, I mean, just the act of, of banning or censoring that material, as you were talking about, is an attempt to sway an election.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
And, uh, Reagan was a Democrat before he was a Republican, by the way.
- JRJoe Rogan
As was Trump.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, it's... He has said-
- DQDennis Quaid
Since then, Facebook has said they've made a mistake.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- DQDennis Quaid
They said that yesterday because we, we, uh, put out a letter to a... In an article in Newsweek, and, uh, they said they'd made a mistake. It was, uh, their automatic systems had detected it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- DQDennis Quaid
But, but it... Those-
- JRJoe Rogan
How convenient.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah. Uh, I don't know what those automatic systems are, but, uh, there was a mistake in that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I don't understand it.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I, I...
- DQDennis Quaid
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know what's going on over there, if it's rogue employees. It's... The problem is, like, so many of those people are so ideologically captured.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So many of the people that are working for any tech company.
- 38:25 – 51:16
Gender ideology, trans athletes, and the cultural ‘new religion’ argument
- DQDennis Quaid
And, and the Me Too movement-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
All of that just completely gone.
- JRJoe Rogan
Now it's-
- DQDennis Quaid
Out the window and it, in favor of what? 0.0000 point whatever of the population?
- JRJoe Rogan
I know, it's nuts. And it's also, it's like now women's sports are in peril.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause now you're having biological men with mental disease, mental disorders competing as women, saying that they're women, women winning weightlifting events, women winning cycling events.
- DQDennis Quaid
The, that boxer, the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
... Italian boxer the other day-
- JRJoe Rogan
The boxing's a complicated one.
- DQDennis Quaid
... which gets down to be really dangerous. I have nothing against trans people.
- JRJoe Rogan
The box is not trans.
- DQDennis Quaid
I was, I was in the drama department. You know, I was a drama mama, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DQDennis Quaid
Most of the drama department was gay at, at stuff, at, at... Grew up in that way. I used to, uh, used to play, play golf with Caitlin.
- JRJoe Rogan
Eh...
- DQDennis Quaid
Back, you know, back-
- JRJoe Rogan
When it was Caitlin or Bruce?
- DQDennis Quaid
When he, back when he was Bruce. It'd just be us 'cause Sherwood, it was very... There weren't many people around. Just, you know, I love the guy. Uh, and I... When he came out like that, I was really happy for him, to tell you the truth. Because to have to, like carry-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DQDennis Quaid
... that around-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DQDennis Quaid
... with what you feel inside, that's really important.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
You know? But that doesn't mean that the entire nation has to like, flip over and change to, to, to uh, accommodate-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DQDennis Quaid
... that. Yes, there could be, uh, a mall for you and... In fact, our system already accommodates everybody.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- 51:16 – 55:42
COVID, pharma distrust, and Quaid’s heparin tragedy with his newborn twins
- DQDennis Quaid
Right. I know a little bit about that because my, from when my twins were overdosed when they were 12 days old with heparin at, in a, in a hospital. It had, uh, turned their blood the consistency of water. And, uh, they were off the measurable scale, in fact, for coag- coagulation of their blood for more than 48 hours, and it was scariest moment of our lives. But really about, what I learned about, uh, we did not sue the hospital. It was a, you know, a human error in that, but it, it was the drug company also which was kind of liable in that the, the 10 milligram unit, the 10-unit bottle that the kids were supposed to get was light blue and the, the adult was dark blue, and that was 10,000.
- JRJoe Rogan
(inhales deeply)
- DQDennis Quaid
So, they got 10,000 three times.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah. It was, it was horrific. But after that, you know, it was, it, uh, I, I testified before Congress, uh, in the Oversight Committee there, uh, uh, you know, about what had happened. And as far as the drug companies, it's impossible to sue drug companies, uh, just about. It's very difficult, hard to get them to, uh, to change anything. They're all located, for the most part, in Ill- Illinois, and they have that system wrapped up. But, uh, it's ... You know, everybody at the FDA ... I won't say everybody, but there are so many people at the FDA positions that are either, uh, former emplo- employees of drug companies or future-
- JRJoe Rogan
Future.
- DQDennis Quaid
... employees of drug companies.
- JRJoe Rogan
Future's more likely, right?
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because they know-
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that there's a golden basket waiting for them at the end of this journey.
- DQDennis Quaid
Exactly. So, to get any kind of r- uh ... Uh, that's, that's wrong in itself, and, uh, to get anything real done, uh, is, is clouded, you know, by self-interest.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
So, um, what happened, you know, during COVID was, uh, that's, they still, uh ... Uh, these boys that are, you know, dropping dead-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
... uh, you know, at 17 of heart attacks and, uh ... It's ... People don't trust their government anymore.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, even-
- DQDennis Quaid
And that's not the same it was back in the late '70s before that election. People didn't, since Watergate, hadn't trusted their government.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's bizarre to me-
- DQDennis Quaid
But it's really bizarre now.
- JRJoe Rogan
... is that even with the, all the evidence of these people dropping dead, the people that are around the people dropping dead are in denial about it.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because they all advocated for a very specific thing. And when that very specific thing may be causing a bunch of deaths, they don't wanna take credit for it. They don't wanna be in trouble for it. They don't wanna be beholden to their, the, to this idea that they had the pharmaceutical drug companies were telling you the truth and that this is the only way out of this. And if you didn't do it, we're all gonna die, and everybody went into this with this terrible fear. And because they stated that early, now they're committed to it and they, they're defending it because it's a part of themselves. Their ideas are a part of themselves. And so, you're see- like the w- the, this ... If you've look at the just ... If you look at what insurance companies are dealing with now with excess deaths, that's some of the best data that we have, this excess mortality.
- DQDennis Quaid
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And the excess mortality is extraordinary. At any other time in history, if there was a thing that was rolled out where all of a sudden everybody's taking it and all of a sudden you have this amazing increase in excess deaths, and cancers that are, uh, uh, what they're calling turbo cancer. And the, uh, if you listen to Peter McCullough, he explains how this could be causing that, that the mRNA vaccines could be causing these turbo cancers.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah, because it actually changes our, our ...... molecular structure down to, you know, the chromosomes and the DNA that, that, that it's, it's, uh, it's a man-made thing, which is affecting our body in a bad way.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. And it's killing people that took it, that were advocating for it, that were tech people. There's tech people that are dropping dead left and right. And they're still, they're still on this bandwagon. And they're still letting the CDC saying, "You should vaccinate anyone under 12." Like what the fuck are you talking about?
- DQDennis Quaid
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
What are you talking about? This is insane.
- 55:42 – 1:00:08
Assassination attempt on Trump: unanswered questions, “memory holing,” and security failures
- DQDennis Quaid
I had to when we were, we were, uh, when we were doing Reagan, we were shooting the movie. So, it's, uh, still at that point and it was required in order to work.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you have any side effects?
- DQDennis Quaid
Um, no. But, you know, I do know, and, and I, I actually got COVID when we were sh- uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course.
- DQDennis Quaid
... shooting Reagan.
- JRJoe Rogan
It doesn't stop with one dose.
- DQDennis Quaid
You know, during the assassination scene, actually. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, really?
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no way.
- DQDennis Quaid
We were working in a basement and we had like 50 extras, you know, and it was just... Oh, of course, it did. Just about everybody got it. But I ad- I had it bad. I was lucky it hit my, it hit me in the guts instead of the lungs. And I had, I had 100 and, uh, four temperature for, uh, a couple of nights. But, uh, you know, I was over it in a couple of weeks. And then, you know, getting the vaccine, I did have kind of a reaction to that, like a little mini version. But I've noticed that when I, uh, get a cold now, it's harder to get over.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
Everything is a little bit harder to get over now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
And I don't think it's just me. Uh, you know, I have f- friends have, you know, we, we talk about it and the, the same thing is going on. Uh, just, uh, and, you know, it, coming from China and all that, you know, what could have happened is, could have been an exchange, a real exchange of how it had really happened, uh, and what, what the process was o- of how it happened, to make sure that it doesn't happen again, or to, during the research of the, the vaccine, to, to put that out, where, uh, you know, it could have helped there as well. There's no... D- it just winds up being, you know, everybody lines up on the side of ideology.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly.
- DQDennis Quaid
I mean, I wonder, you know, if, if, uh, Trump does come into office, are they gonna say, "Oh, I won't take Trump's vac- vaccine again?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Well, that's how it was.
- DQDennis Quaid
That's how it was.
- JRJoe Rogan
Even Kamala Harris is saying that.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah. She was saying, "I'm, uh, I'm not gonna take his vaccine when it comes out."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DQDennis Quaid
Then as soon as they got, get into office, they, the very same vaccine, they said, "Yes, you should, we should take our vaccine."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's nuts.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Very bizarre. That, that's one of the things that's so interesting, because we have more access to information now than we've ever had in all of human history. And yet, people are more divided by ideology than they are by facts, than any other time in history.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah. A lot of it has to do, I think, with, with cable news, too. People have, have, uh, you know, separated themselves. I, myself, I watch all of them, you know. On, on DirecTV there's Channel 200 where you got like six boxes on there. (laughs) And you can, you could watch all the news. And I flip back and forth, and it's like watching a different story.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
A completely different story-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 1:00:08 – 1:32:33
JFK, intelligence agencies, and the ‘government within government’ thesis
- DQDennis Quaid
About who is dangerous and they're gonna have to get, you know, another Republican in there just, you know... But, uh, yeah. I've been reading this, uh, Unspoken. I've forgotten the author's name. Uh, but it was, uh, endorsed by, uh, RFK Jr., uh, you know, about the assassination of, of, um, his uncle, you know, the president, John Kennedy. And it takes every piece of information that is known and puts it in a book and tells a story from it. And it, it was our government, I think, that, uh, came to, th- that killed, that killed Kennedy. And, you know, through the CIA come, you know, the dark forces within, within our government. And if that can happen, then how about today? How much...
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure.
- DQDennis Quaid
Who's running things?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DQDennis Quaid
If you, you, the only thing you can draw is, um-... conclusion you can draw is it's- it's- it's gotta be something like that. Only I can't- I can't understand why the CIA would, uh, want us out of Afghanistan (laughs) that way, or- or, you know, uh, w- why, uh, all the other stuff is going on. But I guess, again, that's for control.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's for control, but it's also so multilayered and so hard to figure out what's going on. I mean, we know that they had MKUltra in the 1960s, and they did mind- mind control experiments on people.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And the idea that they just stopped that is silly.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's silly.
- DQDennis Quaid
They went further. Th- that's- that's how we got all those other drugs that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
... turned up at parties, right? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Well, it's part of it. There's a- a- a- what was that g- this guy, Norman Ohler? He wrote, um, about, uh, drugs during the Third Reich and about how they experimented with, uh, LSD on concentration camp prisoners.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And- And all the stuff that they were giving Hitler, like while he was in the middle- and all the stuff they were giving the Nazis. They were giving the Nazis meth.
- DQDennis Quaid
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They were all on meth.
- DQDennis Quaid
It was crystal meth, in fact-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DQDennis Quaid
... uh, that, uh, that's what they were so fanatical in going out there-
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh.
- DQDennis Quaid
... and staying up for days.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep.
- DQDennis Quaid
I mean, that- that was essential to the blitzkrieg.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- DQDennis Quaid
I mean, you can't stop and take a nap over that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, three days on meth.
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