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Joe Rogan Experience #2192 - Raanan Hershberg

Raanan Hershberg is a standup comic. His new special, "It Could Have Been Better," is now available on Amazon Prime, Apple TV, YouTube, and other platforms. Check out his special "Brave" on YouTube now -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMz4nrdX9w8&t=1s www.raananhershberg.com

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  1. 0:003:07

    Cold plunges, cold showers, and the “natural drug” afterglow

    1. NA

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Um, what's up? What's going on, man?

    4. RH

      Hey, how's it going? Thanks for having me.

    5. JR

      Thanks for coming in. My pleasure. What's going on?

    6. RH

      Hell yeah. It's an honor. Uh, good to, good... Yeah, good to be here. Um, the cold showers, what we were talking about before.

    7. JR

      Yeah, yeah.

    8. RH

      Tho- those are the hardest.

    9. JR

      Oh, well New York City cold showers in the winter are brutal.

    10. RH

      Because it doesn't get your whole body, so you actually have to constantly move around-

    11. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    12. RH

      ... and re-freeze your ass off. You know what I mean?

    13. JR

      Well, it's just, it's hard to breathe too. You're like, "Ah, ah, ah."

    14. RH

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    15. JR

      "Ah, ah, ah."

    16. RH

      I used to do them for a while, though.

    17. JR

      When I was a kid, when I used to do martial arts, there's this dude I used to work out with named Bob Cafarella, and he was like a real psycho. And Bob used to always take sho- cold showers. He said it was good for the spirit.

    18. RH

      It is.

    19. JR

      And we would all be sitting around going, "What the fuck is wrong with him?"

    20. RH

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      This guy's in the, the shower. It was January in Boston and this guy's in the shower just fucking freezing. Ah.

    22. RH

      But I, I feel like when you do it, it's like you feel afterwards this awakeness-

    23. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    24. RH

      ... that you only get with drugs. Like that, like fucking, like, "Oh, I'm..." Like, you never realize how not present you are until you take a cold plunge.

    25. JR

      Right.

    26. RH

      And then you're like, "Oh, now I'm fucking in the world." (laughs)

    27. JR

      Right, because your body's trying to protect you from dying. You know?

    28. RH

      Yeah, which is a real rush. (laughs)

    29. JR

      (laughs) It's, it... Well, it really is, though. It's norepinephrine, that's the big one.

    30. RH

      Yeah.

  2. 3:077:47

    Endorphins, ultrarunners, and sports obsessions (tennis, chess, golf, games)

    1. JR

      I have a buddy of mine that was doing a marathon every day.

    2. RH

      Oh, really?

    3. JR

      Yeah. He, he's a psycho. He does these ultra marathons.

    4. RH

      Oh, my god.

    5. JR

      Where they run for three days. He does, uh-

    6. RH

      It's like Forrest Gump, but he... No, Forrest Gump was...

    7. NA

      (laughs)

    8. RH

      But For-... No, Forrest Gump was running.

    9. JR

      Yeah, yeah.

    10. RH

      Jesus.

    11. JR

      He ran across America. But they do these things through the mountains, like they do the Moab... I think it's the Moab two f-... 200 or 240. So it's 240 miles through mountains.

    12. RH

      Oh, my God.

    13. JR

      It's not just, like, straight 240 miles. Like, you're going over mountains and hills and shit.

    14. RH

      Which is insane. I can run for about seven minutes and I'm probably lying about that.

    15. NA

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. RH

      I'm definitely lying. I can run for about four minutes before I have to, like, stop.

    18. JR

      I don't... I used to not run at all, and then I, I entered into a 5K, and I couldn't believe how hard it was to do.

    19. RH

      It's insane.

    20. JR

      I thought I was in reasonably good shape.

    21. RH

      Yeah, it's crazy how much more in shape other people are. (laughs)

    22. NA

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      Well, especially running shape.

    24. RH

      Like the runners-

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. RH

      ... the people who can do the sprints, the... You know what I mean?

    27. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    28. RH

      They can do something f- for, like, a really long time that I can do for maybe, like, two seconds.

    29. JR

      I think they're drug addicts too, though.

    30. RH

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

  3. 7:479:20

    ADHD, boredom in school, and the hunter-gatherer advantage theory

    1. JR

      I think that's the deal with a lot of kids that are bored in school and they're calling them ADHD.

    2. RH

      Right.

    3. JR

      I think they think that the subjects that are being discussed are boring as fuck.

    4. RH

      Of course. Why-

    5. JR

      They're bouncing off the walls. They're 13 years old. They have so much fucking energy.

    6. RH

      Why is it never the teacher's fault?

    7. JR

      Exactly.

    8. RH

      It's like, why, why did the teacher say something interesting? It's insane. It's like, to be like, "Oh, no, no, they're just ... (laughs) It's like when the audience doesn't laugh and you're like, "No, no, no. I'm ... It's not that I'm not funny." It's that you have laughing deficit disorder. It's like-

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. RH

      ... it's throwing the ball onto something else. Be interesting.

    11. JR

      There was an article in one of the science journals recently about ... Uh, one of the science magazines recently, about ADHD. And then they were saying that it is ... It was actually, uh, an advantage to think that way for hunter-gatherers.

    12. RH

      Oh, wow.

    13. JR

      And that that's ... This is leftover from where they, they're constantly looking at other things and trying to pay atten- And they could focus on one thing, like, very intensely.

    14. RH

      Oh, wow.

    15. JR

      But they're scanning for a bunch of other stuff.

    16. RH

      But you notice.

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. RH

      You, you're like, "Ooh, what's that?" And then it's, like, a raspberry and you're like-

    19. JR

      Also, they're always in activity and motion. ADHD may have evolved to help foragers know when to cut their losses.

    20. RH

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      Oh, interesting. This isn't-

    22. RH

      You're too focused, you get-

    23. JR

      This is interesting.

    24. RH

      ... you get killed.

    25. JR

      This is not the one that I read, 'cause this is from February. The one I read was just a couple of days ago. But symptoms of attention-deficit hyper- hyperactivity disorder, such as impulsivity, may have helped foragers and hunter-gatherer communities quickly move on to new areas when food s- sources were low. Oh.

    26. RH

      That's amazing.

    27. JR

      Hmm.

    28. RH

      So if you're too focused, you, you don't, you don't know when to quit.

    29. JR

      Right.

    30. RH

      And then you get fucking killed or you run out of resources.

  4. 9:2010:15

    Adderall addiction escalations and the psychiatrist who prescribed the problem

    1. RH

      And now ... Yeah. Well, you know, I got really addicted to, uh, Adderall, like everyone.

    2. JR

      (laughs) Oh, wow. I'm scared of that, too. I've never tried it.

    3. RH

      I used to, when I was in ... After college, I started taking it, like, recreationally. And then j- I went to a, a psychiatrist and told her I had a problem. And she was like, "Well, we can prescribe it for you."

    4. JR

      Oh, Jesus Christ. (laughs)

    5. RH

      Then it'll no longer be a problem.

    6. JR

      Oh, my God.

    7. RH

      I was like, "Okay." I was thinking more, like, rehab, but sure.

    8. JR

      What kind of fucking psychiatrist are you going- (laughs)

    9. RH

      She's probably on Adderall right now. She's like, "Want to try it?"

    10. JR

      I know. I'm amazing. Why don't you join me? (laughs) It's insane. And I-

    11. RH

      Let's clean my house.

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. RH

      (laughs) I did it for, like ... I got super ... I was doing 90 milligrams a day. I was like-

    14. JR

      Is that a lot, Jamie? It's a lot. That's a lot?

    15. RH

      Yeah. You're like-

    16. JR

      What is a normal dose?

    17. RH

      F- 10?

    18. NA

      Yeah, when I did 20, I was fucking up for s- 48 hours or something like that. And then I'd need to take it.

    19. JR

      Whoa.

    20. RH

      It's crystal meth for nerds, but it's crystal meth. I mean, it's fucking ... It's like-

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. RH

      It's intense. I was so cocky. I, I wrote poetry. That's how high I was. I thought I could write poetry.

  5. 10:1511:07

    Nazis on speed, Hitler’s drug cocktail, and war fueled by stimulants

    1. JR

      This, this gentleman, Norman Ohler, was on my podcast, uh, two weeks ago.

    2. RH

      Oh.

    3. JR

      And he wrote all about the meth-

    4. RH

      I saw you posted about that.

    5. JR

      ... and the, the Third Reich. Dude, it's crazy.

    6. RH

      And speed, yeah.

    7. JR

      The whole thing was meth. They were all meth-ed up. They were meth-ed up when they fucking did the blitzkrieg.

    8. RH

      I do a bit about that now, about Hitler being on speed. I, I'm obsessed with Hitler. I'm like-

    9. JR

      Oh, man.

    10. RH

      I have, like ... One of my bookshelves is just all Holocaust and Hitler books.

    11. JR

      Really?

    12. RH

      Yeah. But I, I'm, I'm dying to read that. I know, uh, Goring was on everything. He was on-

    13. JR

      They were all on everything.

    14. RH

      Goring was on, like, huge painkillers the whole time. He was like-

    15. JR

      So was Hitler.

    16. RH

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      Hitler was on ... One of the things, the misconceptions that are, he was on meth. It appears a lot of what he was on was oxys. He was on oxycodone.

    18. RH

      Wow.

    19. JR

      Yeah, they had the original oxycodone.

    20. RH

      So th- they were just, like, high. It's like when you get high and you ru- ru- run over someone.

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. RH

      And they're just like ... They, they were like, "What the fuck did I do when I was high?" Like, I'm su-

    23. JR

      They don't even care.

    24. RH

      "I killed all the Jews." (laughs)

  6. 11:0715:07

    Pills, impaired drivers, and dark comedy backfiring (SIDS heckle story)

    1. JR

      Did you ever see that video of the lady who's on pills and the cops are telling her to pull over and she doesn't know why and she has no wheel on her car?

    2. RH

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      Her car is, like, spitting flames. Have you ever seen it?

    4. RH

      No, I've not seen it.

    5. JR

      And they pull over and she's like, "What's the problem?"

    6. RH

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      And the, the, the cop's like, "Ma'am, are you on pills?"

    8. RH

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      Like, what the fuck is going on? How do you not know you lost a wheel on the highway?

    10. RH

      You know what? I, I-

    11. JR

      You gotta see it. It's bonkers.

    12. RH

      No, that's insane. I, yeah, it is ... Like, the Nazis were just all on drugs, which-

    13. JR

      Yep.

    14. RH

      ... is, is just, like, a crazy ... I mean, the whole Third Reich is surreal, that, that created this, you know?

    15. JR

      Yeah. Look at this. So here's this lady. She's just driving, like nothing's wrong, waving, "Hi."

    16. NA

      ... back of another car near Quail Hill Shopping Center. She says her car just gave out. Police say the woman was not impaired.

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. NA

      And they didn't arrest her. The police don't-

    19. JR

      What the fuck are you talking about? If that lady's on pills ...

    20. RH

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      (claps) If she's not impaired, she shouldn't be ever driving.

    22. RH

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      If you don't notice you lost a wheel-

    24. RH

      Right. That's a, that's a big red flag.

    25. JR

      Did they ... Was that the same one? That might not have even been the same one.

    26. NA

      There's a longer video of what was happening. Look on the screen, longer video.

    27. JR

      Right. Okay. This is it. Like, there's no way you don't know that.

    28. RH

      Oh, my God. (laughs)

    29. NA

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      There's no way you don't know.

  7. 15:0722:24

    The craft of standup: risk, roteness, filming sets, and Louis CK’s leaked set

    1. JR

      But you also, you got in p-... I think ... The filming thing is fucking strange, right? Because some people want to get filmed, 'cause you can get some clips-

    2. RH

      Right.

    3. JR

      ... like interacting with the audience.

    4. RH

      Right.

    5. JR

      But it's like, you, you have to have an opportunity to work out stuff.

    6. RH

      Of course. Yeah.

    7. JR

      Because there's times when you're on stage and you're saying things and you, you have a new bit, and you don't know where you're taking it while you're taking it there.

    8. RH

      Of course. Yeah. And you have to like ... That's why when they looped the Louis thing-

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. RH

      ... it was ... Any comic who had like criticized him should lose their comedian badge right away.

    11. JR

      They have to me.

    12. RH

      Because like-

    13. JR

      Yeah. They-

    14. RH

      You, if you release something when they weren't planning for it, it doesn't matter what they said in it, you're at fault for releasing something, you know?

    15. JR

      Well, it's y- ... Obviously it was an audience member that released it, but the comics that criticized him, I'm like, "Hey, man, fuck you." Like y- you pretended ... First of all, the guy didn't do comedy for 10 months.

    16. RH

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      And then second, the stuff that he was saying, if you know him and you know his act, and I guarantee you fucking do, 'cause a lot of those people are just haters.

    18. RH

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      If you know him, you know given enough time, he would make that horrible premise really fucking funny.

    20. RH

      Yes. And frankly, it was pretty funny then. (laughs)

    21. JR

      Pretty funny then. Pretty funny.

    22. RH

      Like ...

    23. JR

      I mean, it was horrible what he's saying, like push the fat kid in front of you, but-

    24. RH

      But that's funny. (laughs)

    25. JR

      ... but you don't think there would be layers upon layers that would make that joke brilliant-

    26. RH

      Right.

    27. JR

      ... in a year if you just let him do it?

    28. RH

      And you learn the cushions, like he didn't have the cush-

    29. JR

      Yes.

    30. RH

      You learn ... Louis, people like Louis, the great comics are great at learning how to make a hard joke work.

  8. 22:2429:50

    Writing systems, recording sets, and Joe’s ‘Orphan Babies’ folder

    1. JR

      Yeah, yeah, with an hour. But y- y- sometimes you just gotta set it aside. And then sometimes I'll come back to it, you know. I have, like, a, a, a whole folder that I call Orphan Babies-

    2. RH

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      ... and it's all bits that never made it on anything.

    4. RH

      That's great to keep a record.

    5. JR

      Yeah.

    6. RH

      That's, that, that's a great thing to me.

    7. JR

      You have to, 'cause at first, yeah.

    8. RH

      That's the hard part, forgetting everything.

    9. JR

      I forget them sometimes if a friend brings them up.

    10. RH

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      Like, they're like, "What about the hyena thing?" I'm like, "Aw, I fucking forgot that."

    12. RH

      I'm like that. People-

    13. JR

      "How does it go?"

    14. RH

      People bring that up and they're like, "Oh, yeah. Why did I stop doing that joke?" (laughs) And then they'll start doing it again.

    15. JR

      Yeah. (laughs) It's, uh, I know. Yeah, it's weird.

    16. RH

      It's stuff like, I requi- I, I did an hour, released an hour, like, a couple months ago, and so I'm trying to work out a new hour. It's tough when you have that, 'cause there's a lot of jokes you just probably don't care about that much, but you need-

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. RH

      ... it in there just for the... you know?

    19. JR

      Right, right, right.

    20. RH

      It's like scaffolding, you know? (laughs)

    21. JR

      Exactly. Right? To keep the bits together so they're coherent sometimes.

    22. RH

      But in my head I'm like, "Uh, I don't care about this one."

    23. JR

      I think everybody should have a, a folder that they just put on... Everybody should write.

    24. RH

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      I mean, I, I know everybody likes to write on stage and I get it, and there's some of the greats that write on stage.... but I, if you're listening, if you're not those people, everybody else, you should write.

    26. RH

      Yeah, 'cause you can go back and not forget them. I have a whole... My bookshelf looks like Seven. You know, where he has all the notebooks-

    27. JR

      Yeah. (laughs)

    28. RH

      ... and the serial code. (laughs)

    29. NA

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      That's great.

  9. 29:5046:15

    Groundbreaking art ages: Lenny Bruce, Oklahoma!, Wizard of Oz, and old-movie savagery

    1. RH

      And still impossible to understand, but... (laughs)

    2. JR

      Yeah, a lot of it, right?

    3. RH

      I listen to him, I'm like, "I don't..." It was a different time where saying Yiddish was really, like, hip. (laughs)

    4. JR

      Right. Lenny? Yeah.

    5. RH

      He was like, "Yeah, you know the meshuggeneh geysims."

    6. JR

      That's true. (laughs) Well, the thing about Lenny was th- no one had ever talked like that publicly.

    7. RH

      Right.

    8. JR

      So this was a totally unique thing, that you have to take in the context of 1963.

    9. RH

      Some of the most groundbreaking stuff feels the most dated later.

    10. JR

      Yes.

    11. RH

      'Cause it is so groundbreaking that everyone, the model changed.

    12. JR

      The whole world changed the way they think about things, and then talking about things openly the way he did became normal.

    13. RH

      Right, right.

    14. JR

      So he's doing normal things to us.

    15. RH

      But it seems... Yeah, no, it's like that musical Oklahoma! seems like such a standard thing.

    16. JR

      Right.

    17. RH

      But at the time it was super experimental. It was the first one where they, they, uh, they had, like, uh, not a chorus on stage right away, or someone singing. A- and a narrative, like a narr- Like, musicals before that were reviews. And, uh... You like how I switched it to musicals? (laughs) You're like-

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. RH

      You're like, "Go back to comedy."

    20. JR

      No, musicals are cool.

    21. RH

      I love musicals. But it was like, it was groundbreaking at the time.

    22. JR

      Right.

    23. RH

      A narrative story. Most shit before that was, like, reviews. And they broke a lot of rules, but now it's just Oklahoma!

    24. JR

      Right.

    25. RH

      You know? But it was, like, an experimental thing at the time.

    26. JR

      Like The Wizard of Oz.

    27. RH

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      The Wizard of Oz was monumental when it came out.

    29. RH

      Oh, yeah.

    30. JR

      Like, it was something that everybody saw. It was one movie that you would guarantee everybody you talked to had seen The Wizard of Oz.

  10. 46:1559:21

    Zoos as prisons: the San Francisco tiger attack and predator psychology

    1. JR

      And they shouldn't be there. I, I don't, I don't agree with zoos at all.

    2. RH

      You don't like zoos?

    3. JR

      No, I don't. I d- I used to l- I'm a hypocrite because I took my kids to them 'cause I want my kids to be able to see these animals 'cause it's kinda cool to see a two-year-old staring at a hippo-

    4. RH

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      ... "Whoa."

    6. RH

      Right, of course, yeah.

    7. JR

      But the reality is, they're prisons. They're prisons for animals that didn't do anything wrong. And-

    8. RH

      But, it's a little different in the sense that their life outside of prison is pretty messed up. They're just getting killed.

    9. JR

      But it's, but it's natural.

    10. RH

      It is natural.

    11. JR

      It's not, they're not all getting killed. You know?

    12. RH

      Well-

    13. JR

      They're doing some killing too, which is also unnatural that you just feed these things that l- live to kill.

    14. RH

      I guess the zoo is better for the prey. (laughs)

    15. JR

      (laughs) It's definitely bet- well, I used to have a joke about that too, about the only peop- animal that I don't feel bad about in the zoo is giraffes.

    16. RH

      They're having a great time.

    17. JR

      They don't seem to have any problem with it at all. They're like, "Another day with no lions."

    18. RH

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. RH

      Well, it's like, yeah, if that's jail, like freedom-

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. RH

      ... to them just getting chased by... Like if, if you, if you were in prison and outside of prison you could just get eaten at any time-

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. RH

      ... prison wouldn't look so bad.

    25. JR

      Well, as long as they have a big enough enclosure-

    26. RH

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      ... and they can walk around, they don't seem to have any problem with it.

    28. RH

      Yeah, it sucks for the predators 'cause they can't like hunt.

    29. JR

      Exactly.

    30. RH

      And then they always put the tiger like next to the giraffe or the lion just to fuck with them. (laughs)

  11. 59:211:04:30

    Studio power flickers, Texas grid talk, and why snow days ruled

    1. NA

      Oh, there it goes again.

    2. RH

      Oh, there it goes again?

    3. NA

      It's the hottest day of the year. We're gonna have that problem with the AC being overpowered. But yeah, I mean, I'll turn everything back on. I-

    4. JR

      Is today the hottest day of the year?

    5. NA

      So far, yeah, it's gonna be 107.

    6. JR

      Oh, God. Um...

    7. NA

      Oh, yeah, I mean, we're still recording.

    8. JR

      Really?

    9. NA

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      The cameras shut off and on, too, though. The-

    11. NA

      I don't, I don't know what to tell you. I, th- everything's-

    12. JR

      The screen's still on, camera's are still on.

    13. RH

      Okay.

    14. NA

      Bed's still moving, time's still going.

    15. JR

      How hot is it today?

    16. NA

      106.

    17. NA

      ... nine, seven.

    18. JR

      God, didn't feel like it.

    19. RH

      The, uh ... You ever be at a, at, at a club where the lights go?

    20. NA

      Oh. I don't (laughs) know what to do. Uh, we might wanna stop for, like, five minutes to make sure this doesn't keep happening while we have the opportunity, before it fucks up more. I don't know, your call.

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