Joe Rogan Experience #2199 - Chris Harris

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. (rock music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

   2. CHChris Harris0:12

      So before you press record-

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Okay.

   4. CHChris Harris0:14

      ... I have, um, I'll go most places, and I'm here because I want to tell people the truth about the last eight... I've had a pretty shit two years, um, 'cause Top Gear ended in a way that most Americans won't know, but my colleague nearly died in a crash, um, and then they left us in limbo a bit. I've never told anyone, anything about it.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:34

      Oh.

   6. CHChris Harris0:34

      Largely because my, uh, friend and colleague, who was nearly killed in the accident, called Andrew Flintoff, who was a presenter on the show. Again, no Americans will know who he is, but he's a massive sports hero in the UK. He plays that weird game called cricket.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:46

      Mm-hmm.

   8. CHChris Harris0:47

      He was like our best cricket player.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:49

      Can we use this or it's-

   10. CHChris Harris0:50

       Yeah, no, we can.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Okay.

   12. CHChris Harris0:50

       I just want to give you a quick fore- foretaste of it. And I, I'm not... I'm here to... I'll say some things that people wouldn't have heard before, and they'll make them gasp a bit.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Ah, well, because we're recording now?

   14. CHChris Harris0:59

       Yeah, that's fine.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       That's okay?

   16. CHChris Harris0:59

       Yeah, that's fine. Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       All right. All right.

   18. NANarrator1:01

       I wasn't on him, though, 'cause I didn't-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       What's that?

   20. NANarrator1:03

       I wasn't on him 'cause he said to...

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       Okay.

   22. CHChris Harris1:04

       That's fine.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Well...

   24. CHChris Harris1:05

       So, but I-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Were you on me?

   26. NANarrator1:07

       Yeah, yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       All right. We're good.

   28. CHChris Harris1:07

       I'm gonna, I'm gonna go into it all.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       Okay.

   30. CHChris Harris1:09

       Um, but it might be that what seems quite revelatory to me-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. CHChris Harris15:00

      peak restomod-

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      Yeah.

   3. CHChris Harris15:01

      ... 'cause so much of it going on. But it does ... It segues into a point I wanted to make about the, the way we're traveling. One of the ways I find to appease myself, if I do wake up some days and think, "I'm a pretty wasteful individual," or whatever it is, you know, even I have moments where I think, "Just have a look at yourself in the mirror," just buy a used car. Then you don't- you're not having another one built.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      Right.

   5. CHChris Harris15:21

      There are so many great old cars out there.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:23

      Right.

   7. CHChris Harris15:24

      I just go out and buy something that's 10 years old. Go and look at a 10-year-old AMG.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:27

      Right.

   9. CHChris Harris15:27

      What a machine.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:28

       Yeah.

   11. CHChris Harris15:28

       And if you d- that's a vehicle that's already been built.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       Right.

   13. CHChris Harris15:31

       It's, it's, it's wastefulness has already been absorbed into this weird world we live in.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       Yeah.

   15. CHChris Harris15:35

       Go and buy it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       Yeah.

   17. CHChris Harris15:36

       It's there for you, with its 500 horsepower. It's ready to go.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       Yeah.

   19. CHChris Harris15:40

       That's th- the greenest thing you can do is to go and buy an old Ferrari.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       Right.

   21. CHChris Harris15:44

       You'll do no miles in it-

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       (laughs)

   23. CHChris Harris15:46

       ... 'cause you'll never use it-

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       Right.

   25. CHChris Harris15:47

       ... 'cause it might work now and again.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       (laughs)

   27. CHChris Harris15:49

       It's the greenest thing you can do in your life, is buy a used Ferrari or a Lamborghini.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Right.

   29. CHChris Harris15:54

       It's the best thing. So, but no one seems to express it this way. And the other way is to restomod.

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       Mm-hmm.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   (laughs) …

   1. CHChris Harris30:00

      he had to be subtitled in America for Top Gear because his accent-

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      (laughs)

   3. CHChris Harris30:03

      ... is so broad from the north of England, he had subtitles. Because also-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      It's like watching Peaky Blinders.

   5. CHChris Harris30:08

      Yeah. No, it's worse than that.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      (laughs)

   7. CHChris Harris30:10

      Anyhow, uh, he, he, he crashed a Lamborghini when we were filming, and it went... It was all over the press in the UK.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      Oh.

   9. CHChris Harris30:15

      It helped it was red, like proper dog knob red, Lamborghini goes off the road. Anyhow, at the end of it all, um, the car's on a low loader, and I look at the tires.... they're 20 years old.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Oh, God. Yeah. Well, that's the-

   11. CHChris Harris30:28

       Because they'd have been borrowed for the job. Y- you know, y- you s- old tire technology matched with age as well is terrible.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:35

       That's the story with, uh, the guy from Fast and the Furious. What's his name?

   13. CHChris Harris30:40

       Paul Walker.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       Paul Walker. Paul Walker. That's the story with him. They had old tires on that car.

   15. CHChris Harris30:44

       Well, Paddy get... So, Paddy gets eviscerated in the press 'cause he can't drive and everything else. If I could have been in that car, I'd have crashed it-

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       Hmm.

   17. CHChris Harris30:50

       ... if I could drive a bit.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       Yeah.

   19. CHChris Harris30:51

       Anyone, y- y- y- you cannot... And that's that... If you get in these old cars with old tires on them-

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       Yes.

   21. CHChris Harris30:56

       ... they have nothing.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       Yeah.

   23. CHChris Harris30:58

       Absolutely nothing.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       It's incredible how much the technology has come along in that regard.

   25. CHChris Harris31:03

       I'd say Michelin, at its best, is, you know... It's... Some of it's like witchcraft.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       Hmm.

   27. CHChris Harris31:09

       If y- if you go... If you get in a new Porsche GT3 RS now, the tire they've developed for that probably has four compounds across it, you know, t- so the, the high-wear stuff, where it needs the grip. They're so clever.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:24

       Hmm.

   29. CHChris Harris31:24

       They, they, they really are. The performance they add to the vehicle, no one knows.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:28

       How come no one can figure out how to make a tire without air?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm. …

   1. CHChris Harris45:00

      the experienced driver, the members of the public think that I didn't do enough to protect Andrew. But I... And, and Paddy as well. They both had... They both experienced other incidents on that show that I think were unacceptable. And I... And that's coming as someone who loves a bit of risk. You know, if- if you and I went outside now and there were two quad bikes, I'd happily roll it for a laugh with you. I'm that guy. And even me, as that guy, thought Top... It had gone too far.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:25

      Mm.

   3. CHChris Harris45:25

      Which I think is important to say.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:26

      Right.

   5. CHChris Harris45:28

      Um, but-

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:28

      Well, here's the problem with those shows, is they always wanna keep pushing the limit. And it's generally the producers who don't quite understand the limitations of the vehicles.

   7. CHChris Harris45:37

      And not... Yes, they don't have the experience of- of what it's like to actually be in control of that vehicle or what is possible.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:43

      Right. Right, right.

   9. CHChris Harris45:44

      So all- all too often, it's, "Could you just do that?"

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       Right.

   11. CHChris Harris45:46

       And, and then you wanna be a crowd pleaser. You know, you- you wanna be the guy that can do it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       We had that on Fear Factor.

   13. CHChris Harris45:51

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       When I was hosting Fear Factor, there was a- a couple of times where I was like, "What the fuck are we doing?"

   15. CHChris Harris45:58

       Mm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       Especially the second se-... Like, Fear Factor started in 2001 and went to 2007, and then we came back again in 2011, and we only did six episodes. And they tried to make it just really ramped up. And when it was canceled, it was actually canceled because people had to drink donkey sperm. Yeah. Which was pretty minor in consider-... I mean, it's disgusting, but, uh, it wasn't anything that was gonna risk anyone's lives. But I was really feeling like if this keeps going, the stunts are so spectacular and so big, we're launching cars through moving trains. There was a moving train, and then the train had all these like cardboard boxes in it. We launch a car off a ramp, like sideways, and it goes through the train. You have to time it just right so you don't hit the car into one of the- the big metal...

   17. CHChris Harris46:49

       And someone in the car?

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:50

       Yeah, driving it. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

   19. CHChris Harris46:53

       I- I... My- my experience of that now is that if you establish really big stunts that have big vision and are ambitious, they tend to come with them a level of rigor that means they are executed well. The difficult area is the kind of just being at a test track with a smaller crew and someone says, "Give that a go." That's when it goes wrong.

   20. JRJoe Rogan47:16

       Mm.

   21. CHChris Harris47:16

       Because no one's really thought about it. They're saying, "Well, we've done the... We've done the risk assessment, but just give that a go while you're here."

   22. JRJoe Rogan47:23

       Ah.

   23. CHChris Harris47:23

       I think that goes wrong. And also, my- my experience, and this is where I'm... I... Everyone that's shot with me will- will be re-... Have been reminded of this now and again. Closer play, end of the day, that's when it goes wrong.

   24. JRJoe Rogan47:35

       Mm.

   25. CHChris Harris47:35

       If you're at a test track, it's ju-... You know, the light's coming down, there's 10 minutes to go, and the director says, "Just do that." I go, "No." 'Cause everyone's tired. Someone's gonna have ignored the lockdown on the circuit. There'll be someone coming, driving the other way with the coffee cups over their heads.

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:49

       Mm.

   27. CHChris Harris47:49

       Or it's the end of the day.

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:51

       Right.

   29. CHChris Harris47:52

       I... If it's 6 o'clock, 5:30, I'm gone.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:54

       Right.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:04

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   1. CHChris Harris1:00:00

      "Because you've made such a difference to my life." I'm like, "I'm not the second coming. I don't know what I've done to you." He goes, "Because, you know, I host all of your videos on a channel in China and they've made me, like, loads of money."

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      (laughs)

   3. CHChris Harris1:00:13

      I just went, "Sorry."

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      Yeah.

   5. CHChris Harris1:00:16

      So I did a bit of research. He has. He's made lots of... He just, he just took... He would just rip them all off YouTube and host them.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

      Wow.

   7. CHChris Harris1:00:22

      But there's no regulation.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

      Wow. So he's just telling you he ripped you off.

   9. CHChris Harris1:00:27

      But, but he had... But he thought...... he had no, it wasn't like he had no shame. He couldn't even see what he'd done wrong.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

       Right. Right. Right.

   11. CHChris Harris1:00:33

       He's just like, "Thanks."

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       Well, China has Apple stores that aren't even Apple.

   13. CHChris Harris1:00:38

       Does it?

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       Yes. China has full Apple stores where they're selling counterfeit laptops, phones, everything. None of it is really A- I don't even know if they'll, they do phones anymore. But, i- it was all, they had Apple stores that Apple found out about that weren't even, nothing was Apple.

   15. CHChris Harris1:00:56

       It's, it's, creating content in the last 10 years has become a really fascinating situation because, I'm sure you felt the same when you started out, w- if you produce something, you own it, by definition. Doesn't matter whether you're within a network or what have you. The intellectual property in your head is, "That's mine."

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:13

       Right.

   17. CHChris Harris1:01:14

       And content producers over the last five years have had to accept the fact that that is no longer the proposition. People can do what they want. You cannot, you can't hunt them down.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:23

       Right.

   19. CHChris Harris1:01:24

       And it, and it's shameless. And I, I still get, occasionally get engaged. I don't look at the Instagram message thing very often, but sometimes I'll just see someone saying, "I, I'm just gonna post this. Do you mind?" And sometimes I'll go, "Well, yes, I do." I, I, I went out there at 3:00 in the morning.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:39

       Right.

   21. CHChris Harris1:01:40

       I nearly crashed that car. I paid for those rear tires.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:42

       Right.

   23. CHChris Harris1:01:42

       Why should you get the chance to monetize that for your channel?

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:45

       Exactly.

   25. CHChris Harris1:01:46

       What are you offering me?

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:47

       Right. Nothing.

   27. CHChris Harris1:01:48

       I just find it really odd.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:49

       It's very odd. Yeah. And it's also, they feel like they can just say a few things, you know, like, "Hey, look at Chris Harris doing this," and that's enough.

   29. CHChris Harris1:01:57

       A- a- and also, w-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:59

       That's enough of an alteration.

Episode duration: 2:57:25