Joe Rogan Experience #2200 - Kat Timpf

Joe Rogan 0:01 (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) What's up?

Kat Timpf 0:13 No- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:13 Nice to meet you.

Kat Timpf 0:13 Great to meet you, too.

Joe Rogan 0:15 Thank you. Thanks for being here.

Kat Timpf 0:16 Of course. Yeah, of course I'm here, right? Of course I'm gonna, of course I'm gonna do this. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:21 (laughs) Well, I'm glad, I'm glad you're doing it.

Kat Timpf 0:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:23 So, um, you wrote a book about ... Well, I think the title is, I Used To Like You But?

Kat Timpf 0:28 Until. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:29 Until.

Kat Timpf 0:29 I Used To Like You Until.

Joe Rogan 0:30 Yeah. Right.

Kat Timpf 0:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:31 Why'd you wanna do that? What, what was the motivation behind that?

Kat Timpf 0:34 Uh, I, I mean, I real- ... It's, it's not a hot take that everything's so divided now, right? I think a lot of people have noticed that. But I think I'm really in this unique position where I kinda get it from both sides, because I'm independent, politically. I just want very small government, which I think puts me at odds with both the parties sometimes, depending on what the issue is. So, I will sometimes get shit from the F- I'm on Fox News, so I'll get sometimes shit from the viewers for ... Sometimes m- more of the s- more social issues or I'm not religious, that kind of a thing. But then the people on the left, a lot of them w- won't even wanna have a conversation with me, 'cause they're like, "Oh, she works at Fox News. That tells-"

Joe Rogan 1:11 Right.

Kat Timpf 1:12 "... me everything I need to know about her."

Joe Rogan 1:13 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 1:14 And I think that that's doing some real damage, overall, to us as a country (laughs) by the fact that we're letting ... 'Cause I'm not special in that aspect, right? People will let one aspect of a person completely just, "Oh, that's all I need to know about that person. I'm not gonna"-

Joe Rogan 1:28 Sure.

Kat Timpf 1:28 "... talk to that person."

Joe Rogan 1:29 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 1:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:31 Yeah. That's a real problem. And, and i- it's so funny, like, if you say, "I'm independent. I just want small government," immediately people start thinking, "Prepper."

Kat Timpf 1:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:40 You know, "KKK, stockpiling"-

Kat Timpf 1:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:42 "... guns, living in the woods."

Kat Timpf 1:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:44 "I'm independent, I want small government," is like you're a ... You might be a dangerous person, which is such a wild take.

Kat Timpf 1:50 Well, people think that just 'cause you don't think the gov- the government's the best way to solve a problem-

Joe Rogan 1:54 Right.

Kat Timpf 1:54 ... that doesn't actually mean you don't care about the problem. So, if you don't think the government can solve something, like, "Oh, well, you're a piece of shit, because"-

Joe Rogan 2:00 Right.

Kat Timpf 2:00 ... "you don't, you don't care about this and this and this." It's like, no, I just don't think the government's gonna solve it. I mean-

Joe Rogan 2:04 Well, the problem with the government solving problems and the g- ... The government is not financially invested in a solution.

Kat Timpf 2:11 No. No.

Joe Rogan 2:11 They just want to have more jobs.

Kat Timpf 2:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 2:13 And they wanna keep more bureaucracy and-

Kat Timpf 2:16 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 2:16 ... more people working on a problem, hence the California homeless problem.

Kat Timpf 2:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:20 Imagine if that was farmed off to the private sector, and-

Kat Timpf 2:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:23 ... i- ima- imagine if the only way to make money in the homeless problem is actually creating a solution for it.

Kat Timpf 2:29 Yeah, but there's no, there's ... Like you said, there's no actual incentive for them to do that.

Joe Rogan 2:34 Right.

Kat Timpf 2:34 New York's the same. I mean, I live in New York 'cause I love my job, but if (laughs) I didn't have my job, I would not live there, 'cause it's so expensive.

Joe Rogan 2:40 Right.

Kat Timpf 2:40 And I was in LA last week, and I was coming back from JFK in the morning after a red eye. I am exhausted. I'm pregnant. I'm trying to sleep in the car, and the roads, I'm just getting pothole after pothole. I'm, like, going all ... I'm like, "T- what are my taxes going, exactly?"

Joe Rogan 2:56 Yeah. (laughs)

Kat Timpf 2:57 'Cause everyone always say these ro- the roads are shit.

Joe Rogan 2:59 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 3:00 So ...

Joe Rogan 3:01 I lived in New York once. I drove d- ... I had to do an audition. I drove t- ... I lived in New Rochelle, so I lived, like, right outside the Bronx.

Kat Timpf 3:07 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 3:07 And I drove to the city and home from the city. I blew out one tire driving to the city. Had to pull over to the side of the road, change this fucking tire.

Kat Timpf 3:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 3:17 Dangerous. Risking my life. On the way back, I blew out another tire.

Kat Timpf 3:21 Yeah. Jeez, yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:22 From potholes.

Kat Timpf 3:23 Yeah. And it's so expensive.

Joe Rogan 3:24 You just hear that bang, and you're like, "Shit."

Kat Timpf 3:26 Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's so expensive. I mean, I've ... A- the fact that I have a ... I feel very luxurious, and it's like a flex to be able to have a child, actually (laughs) , 'cause we have a sp- ... We have pl- enough space to put a baby in our rental apartment-

Joe Rogan 3:39 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 3:39 ... which most people don't, actually. Like, I never thought I would get to that position.

Joe Rogan 3:42 People live in closets.

Kat Timpf 3:44 Yeah, I've lived in closets. I ... When I first moved to New York, I lived in Harl- East Harlem. I lived in a truly actually dangerous neighborhood, and I was broke at, like, just so broke. And it, it's ... I don't know how, uh, people survive. I, I, I really don't.

Joe Rogan 3:57 I don't know why.

Kat Timpf 3:58 I don't know how I did.

Joe Rogan 3:59 Like, you can-

Kat Timpf 4:00 Right.

Joe Rogan 4:00 ... get jobs other places.

Kat Timpf 4:01 Yeah, I had my stupid dream, which ... And it worked out well for me.

Joe Rogan 4:04 What was your stupid dream?

Kat Timpf 4:05 I wanted to do exactly what I'm doing now.

Joe Rogan 4:07 Congratulations.

Kat Timpf 4:07 Thank you. (laughs) I mean, and then it's, of course, you achieve something, you're like, "What's the next thing? What's the next thing? What's the next thing?" I'm that kind-

Joe Rogan 4:12 Right.

Kat Timpf 4:12 ... of person. But ... And I'm also-

Joe Rogan 4:15 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 4:15 ... uh, it's been a s- ... So, I'm off of amphetamines right now, 'cause I'm pregnant, for the first time since I was five.

Joe Rogan 4:21 Whoa.

Kat Timpf 4:22 Isn't that crazy?

Joe Rogan 4:23 Whoa.

Kat Timpf 4:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:25 What kind of amphetamines?

Kat Timpf 4:26 I mean, you name it. (laughs) I mean ... So, I was five. I have AD- ... I do have ADHD. I was five years old.

Joe Rogan 4:31 What does that mean?

Kat Timpf 4:32 So, it, for-

Joe Rogan 4:32 You got to be.

Kat Timpf 4:33 It could be a lot of things, right? It could be lack of focus. It can be emotional dysregulation. But for me, a lot of times, it's not diagnosed in women until they're older. I was a nuisance. I was unable to function in a classroom setting, which I think is more noticeable if you're a girl. I was acting like a, kinda like a boy, for lack of better ... I mean, I was, I was breaking shit. I was-

Joe Rogan 4:54 Mm-hmm.

Kat Timpf 4:54 ... like roughhousing. I was unable to function in the classroom. And then it, they, we went and got my IQ looked at. They're, "Oh, she's really smart. She just can't ..." So, they put her ... I was on Ritalin since I was five. And (laughs) now I'm not.

Joe Rogan 5:10 Wow.

Kat Timpf 5:10 Isn't that crazy?

Joe Rogan 5:11 That is crazy. I hear that, and I'm like, "That sounds like me." Um-

Kat Timpf 5:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:15 I don't know what it means, because I bet you can focus on things that you enjoy.

Kat Timpf 5:21 See, yes. I can.

Joe Rogan 5:22 Right.

Kat Timpf 5:23 But writing is really hard, which is-

Joe Rogan 5:25 Well, writing's hard for everybody. That's why no one's-

Kat Timpf 5:27 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:27 ... a writer.

Kat Timpf 5:27 Right. But I'm-

Joe Rogan 5:28 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 5:28 ... a writer.

Joe Rogan 5:29 Right.

Kat Timpf 5:29 But I've been on amphetamines. This ... Since I was five. I don't remember a time being off of them. I- if I haven't been sick or i- in bed somewhere, uh, in the hospital, like really sick, I've been taking one of these drugs. I mean, Vyvanse is what I was most recently taking. So, as an ambitious person, it's been tough for me to be pregnant, but I don't know what of it is the pregnancy-

Joe Rogan 5:48 Because you're not amphetamined?

Kat Timpf 5:49 Right. I don't know. I don't know what of it is no p- ... is the pregnancy, what of it is no amphetamines, what of it is no nicotine, 'cause I mean, I can't wait to go back to nicotine, but ...

Joe Rogan 5:57 Cigarettes or pouches?

Kat Timpf 5:58 Pouches. (laughs) I like gum and pouches.

Joe Rogan 6:02 Um, so-Let me get this straight. So, you're- you're young, you're real energetic.

Kat Timpf 6:08 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 6:08 You- you don't wanna sit still in class. But are you interested in some things? Like, do you, do you focus on some things in your life?

Kat Timpf 6:16 Yeah, probably. I was really into outside and bugs and reptiles and that kind of thing.

Joe Rogan 6:20 Right. And when you're around those things, did you focus?

Kat Timpf 6:22 Probably. I mean, I don't remember that well.

Joe Rogan 6:24 Yeah, that's why I- I don't know what this is. Because every time someone talks about ADHD, and people want to insist that it's an- that it's an actual pathology, that it's an actual issue.

Kat Timpf 6:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:34 And I'm always like, "Boy, I don't know," 'cause I think it's a superpower.

Kat Timpf 6:38 So, for me, I, like, it's be- I've just decided to view it like, okay, I am not taking this. They told me, "You can take the medication while you're pregnant, but we just don't know what it'll- (laughs) what effect it'll have." I'm like, "Well, I'm not com- I'm not comfortable with that."

Joe Rogan 6:51 Yeah, fuck that.

Kat Timpf 6:51 So I just- I- I quit, I quit it. I quit nicotine, quit everything. But, you know, I just try to view it as an experiment. Like, I've never been off of these drugs and I'm gonna try being off of these drugs. Doing the most simple task, to me, feels like I'm doing it through mud.

Joe Rogan 7:05 Right now?

Kat Timpf 7:05 It's really hard for me. Yes, it's really hard. But one thing that I think I'm gonna, after I give birth, I'm gonna go back to it to some extent. But I don't wanna use it on stage anymore.

Joe Rogan 7:14 Hmm.

Kat Timpf 7:14 'Cause I feel like I've been better on stage without amphetamines.

Joe Rogan 7:18 Well, I know people that do. I've never done amphetamines. I've never done Adderall, I've never done coke. I'm scared of them. Um, but a buddy of mine who had done Adderall and then gone on stage said it was terrible.

Kat Timpf 7:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:29 Said he- he's never smiling, he was all serious while he was up there, he said it was awful.

Kat Timpf 7:33 Yeah. To me, it- I- I guess I feel normal that I've never (laughs) really been off of it. Like, it was never really my decision.

Joe Rogan 7:39 (laughs) That's so crazy.

Kat Timpf 7:39 It was never my decision to go on it.

Joe Rogan 7:41 So, what makes you think that you're better on stage, uh, off of it?

Kat Timpf 7:44 Because I- one of my root issues is impulse control, which is a problem, and everywhere but a stage, right? 'Cause if you're not thinking too much, then you're gonna be better on stage, I think.

Joe Rogan 7:54 Hmm.

Kat Timpf 7:55 So, I think I'm- I don't get as nervous, I'm not thinking as much about, "What if I say this?" I just, I've already said it.

Joe Rogan 8:01 Right.

Kat Timpf 8:02 And, and on a stage, that's the best place for that. That's the o- one place where you can really do that and it's gonna be okay.

Joe Rogan 8:08 Right.

Kat Timpf 8:08 So, I- I- I still- the writing is tough, doing laundry is tough, uh, being emotionally stable (laughs) is tough.

Joe Rogan 8:16 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 8:16 But my husband is a very patient man. But I also don't know what of that is the pregnancy. I am not sure.

Joe Rogan 8:22 Right. This is your first one?

Kat Timpf 8:23 This is my first one.

Joe Rogan 8:23 Yeah, so there's lots going on.

Kat Timpf 8:25 There's a lot going on, right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:27 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 8:27 But it's like, I'm so messed up because I've done these- the amphetamines for so long, that let's just say-

Joe Rogan 8:32 Oh, my God.

Kat Timpf 8:32 ... if something doesn't go well, I'm like, "It would've been better if I was on Vyvanse."

Joe Rogan 8:36 Oh, right, right, right.

Kat Timpf 8:36 So, it's like cra- you know what I- I don't- because I don't know.

Joe Rogan 8:39 Oh, my gosh.

Kat Timpf 8:39 But it's- you know, but I just don't know 'cause I've heard- from what I've heard, if you're pregnant, that can make you a little crazy too.

Joe Rogan 8:45 I'm sure.

Kat Timpf 8:46 Right? I mean-

Joe Rogan 8:46 Yeah. Well, your hormones are going crazy, you got a little person growing inside your body.

Kat Timpf 8:49 It's so weird. And I know it's-

Joe Rogan 8:50 So much going on.

Kat Timpf 8:50 ... it's the most normal thing ever. I get that, like, everybody does it and that's why we're all here. But, like, I've never done it.

Joe Rogan 8:55 Right.

Kat Timpf 8:55 And to me, it's wild.

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Kat Timpf 10:05 It's weird.

Joe Rogan 10:06 I mean, it only happens every now and again to people.

Kat Timpf 10:09 Yes.

Joe Rogan 10:09 It only happens to one half of the population.

Kat Timpf 10:11 Yes.

Joe Rogan 10:11 And it's the reason why life is here.

Kat Timpf 10:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:14 And it's treated as if it's not that big of a deal.

Kat Timpf 10:17 Yeah, it really is. It-

Joe Rogan 10:18 And it's one of the main focuses in this election, is whether or not you can kill the baby.

Kat Timpf 10:23 It- it- it's, yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:23 'Cause what that- I'm sorry to say it that way.

Kat Timpf 10:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:26 I mean, I'm not, uh- I'm not in any way, uh, trying to take away someone's right to choose. I'm not that guy. But I'm just saying, what it is it- what it- it actually is, is you're deciding whether or not someone should be able to tell you whether you could terminate the baby that's inside of you that's gonna become a person.

Kat Timpf 10:41 Well, I- yeah, I think that's obviously ... I mean, I'm pro-choice. I just don't think the government should be involved in it at all.

Joe Rogan 10:46 I don't think so either.

Kat Timpf 10:47 And I think that there's all these (sighs) there's so many different levels to it, right? Like, my husband and I, we froze embryos years ago.

Joe Rogan 10:54 Yo.

Kat Timpf 10:54 So I have nine (laughs) frozen kids, too.

Joe Rogan 10:56 Yo. Yeah, kids just waiting to be-

Kat Timpf 10:58 I have kids all over. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:58 ... thawed out.

Kat Timpf 10:59 But those are like-

Joe Rogan 11:00 That's crazy.

Kat Timpf 11:00 ... those are just a couple cells that are in a freezer.

Joe Rogan 11:03 Whatever.

Kat Timpf 11:03 I-

Joe Rogan 11:04 Who knows what's in there?

Kat Timpf 11:05 I mean ...

Joe Rogan 11:05 Who knows what's in the embryo?

Kat Timpf 11:07 You- I- so you really- so you think I should have all of them? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:09 I don't know what's in there. I don't know. I mean, what if every embryo is a life? And not just a life, but a soul? And a soul waiting to emer- like, once you've done the deed.

Kat Timpf 11:23 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:23 And I'd say I'm not that guy. I'm not this religious-

Kat Timpf 11:25 No, I don't think you are. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:26 I'm not this guy, but I'm just- let's put it out there.

Kat Timpf 11:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:28 Like, what the fuck is that if that thing can become a person?

Kat Timpf 11:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:31 You put it in your body. Thaws out, whatever. I don't know the process.

Kat Timpf 11:35 Yeah, I don't really either.

Joe Rogan 11:36 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 11:36 I don't really either. I just kinda did it.

Joe Rogan 11:38 All of a sudden- all of a sudden, it's a person? Like, y- you're storing people in, like, a lab somewhere? And do they have memory of being stored? Do we- we have long-term data about the trauma of being a frozen embryo for 10 years? Do we, uh, have any idea whether or not it has any effect on the human being? How long have they been doing this?

Kat Timpf 11:57 Yeah, I have- yeah, I don't-

Joe Rogan 11:58 What's the long-term data on what kind of a person comes out of fro- like, what if, like, making a bunch of sociopaths?

Kat Timpf 12:04 They're all- I don't- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:05 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 12:05 I don't th- I mean, I feel like we've done it enough pa- time, IVF, right?

Joe Rogan 12:09 Do you really think they've studied it? Like, looked at the personalities of the people, whether or not they have weird dreams about being stuck in a freezer?

Kat Timpf 12:15 Well, sociopaths come from sex, too. I watch it enough.

Joe Rogan 12:17 From sex?

Kat Timpf 12:18 No, like, the babies that come from sex t- can grow up to be sociopaths.

Joe Rogan 12:22 How do the b- babies come out of the other way?

Kat Timpf 12:24 Well, they mean-

Joe Rogan 12:24 IVF.

Kat Timpf 12:25 IVF. There's IVF and then there's the sex way.

Joe Rogan 12:27 So, you're saying that all the babies...... that are sociopaths come from sex?

Kat Timpf 12:32 No. I'm saying that some of them do.

Joe Rogan 12:33 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 12:34 Any baby could be a sociopath.

Joe Rogan 12:35 Yes.

Kat Timpf 12:35 Which is what I'm s- which is why I waited so long to have kids and I'm terrified. Because also, what if it's, like, a few degrees below a sociopath and my kid just sucks? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:44 (laughs) I don't think you have to worry about that.

Kat Timpf 12:46 My kid's the one that shows up and everyone's like, "Ah, shit." You know?

Joe Rogan 12:49 Just-

Kat Timpf 12:49 "So-and-so's kid's here."

Joe Rogan 12:50 Do your best. You're n- you don't h- I don't think you really have to worry about that. The reason why the brought- I brought that up-

Kat Timpf 12:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:55 ... is because Ted Kaczynski, when he was young, was ... There was something wrong with him, some sort of medical condition, and they brought him to some hospital where he received no touch, no physical touch for, like, a long period of time. Like, months and months.

Kat Timpf 13:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:09 And his brother, who turned him in, his brother who w- read The Uni- Unabomber's Manifesto and realized ... Like, "I know how this guy's talking."

Kat Timpf 13:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:16 "My brother's a genius and a psy- a real psycho. And this is my brother." And so he turned him in and that's how they caught the Unabomber.

Kat Timpf 13:22 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:22 But he attributes one of the things that's wrong with his brother, with the time where he was a baby where he received no touch and no love, and that it just fucked with his head. And I wonder, do those little embryos just sit in a freezer somewhere?

Kat Timpf 13:37 (laughs) I don't think so. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:39 (laughs) I don't know either.

Kat Timpf 13:40 I don't think so.

Joe Rogan 13:41 I don't know either.

Kat Timpf 13:41 I don't think so.

Joe Rogan 13:42 But religion thinks that the soul-

Kat Timpf 13:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 13:44 ... enters the body on the 48th day, right? Is that what it is?

Kat Timpf 13:47 I think every religion's different. I think there's some people who are really socially conservative religious that are opposed to IVF in general-

Joe Rogan 13:54 Right.

Kat Timpf 13:54 ... because, uh, embryos are discarded or they die-

Joe Rogan 13:57 Mm-hmm. Right, right.

Kat Timpf 13:57 ... and, and that kind of a thing, and ...

Joe Rogan 13:59 Yeah, I've heard that as an argument against what Donald Trump has been saying about, uh, paying for IVF.

Kat Timpf 14:04 Right.

Joe Rogan 14:05 And we need more babies.

Kat Timpf 14:06 Right.

Joe Rogan 14:06 And everybody's like, "Yay!" And then the psychos went, "No, no, no."

Kat Timpf 14:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:09 "70% of all IVF-

Kat Timpf 14:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:10 ... babies are never used and they're-

Kat Timpf 14:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:12 ... discarded." And like, "Okay."

Kat Timpf 14:15 Yeah. And then my dumb ass, I just talk about it all. I'm like-

Joe Rogan 14:17 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 14:17 ... "I have nine frozen blah, blah, blah." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:19 Listen, it's not your ... You're just being transparent. I don't think-

Kat Timpf 14:22 I im-

Joe Rogan 14:22 I think that's a, a strong quality.

Kat Timpf 14:23 Well, thank you. Uh, it gets me into trouble sometimes, but it's a much less stressful than the alternative of having to worry about things (laughs) -

Joe Rogan 14:29 Right.

Kat Timpf 14:29 ... being uncovered-

Joe Rogan 14:29 Yes.

Kat Timpf 14:29 ... that I've been (laughs) hiding from people.

Joe Rogan 14:32 Yes.

Kat Timpf 14:32 I mean, a lot of times those are the creepiest people. Uh-

Joe Rogan 14:34 Oh, for sure.

Kat Timpf 14:35 ... the people that are, "I'm ... Everything's great. Everything's perfect. I have n- ... "

Joe Rogan 14:38 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 14:38 It's like, "Mm."

Joe Rogan 14:39 For sure. Yeah. Well, also, uh, I've always found that the people that wanna control other people most likely are out of control of some aspect of themselves.

Kat Timpf 14:47 Okay.

Joe Rogan 14:48 Like, if I see men that are, like, really invested in telling women what to do and controlling wo- ... Like, s- uh, some weird thing that I was reading about people, uh, wanting to monitor employees' periods.

Kat Timpf 15:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:02 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 15:02 There was a concern about that, right, where if i- i- ... I don't ... Again, there's s- there was a concern about it, I don't know if it was ever really a thing, but it was a concern about it happening potentially, where if abortion was illegal-

Joe Rogan 15:13 Right.

Kat Timpf 15:13 ... they could get data from these, these apps that track your period.

Joe Rogan 15:17 Right.

Kat Timpf 15:17 And I have one 'cause it now tracks my ... It tells me like, "Your baby's the size of a pomegranate this week."

Joe Rogan 15:22 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 15:22 And I'm like, "Oh, that's so cute." Right? But if, let's say, I ... I- i- it was telling me all that and I, like, miss my period, then it could be watching me to see-

Joe Rogan 15:31 Right.

Kat Timpf 15:31 ... if I was obtaining an abortion pill online or something like that.

Joe Rogan 15:34 Right.

Kat Timpf 15:34 If my period was ...

Joe Rogan 15:36 Which is crazy also, because miscarriages are some of the most emotionally devastating-

Kat Timpf 15:40 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:40 ... things for women.

Kat Timpf 15:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 15:41 And then to be accused of killing your baby-

Kat Timpf 15:43 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 15:44 ... after a miscarriage because the app-

Kat Timpf 15:46 The app.

Joe Rogan 15:46 ... like, read wrong.

Kat Timpf 15:47 The app read wrong. The app saw that you missed your period.

Joe Rogan 15:49 Yeah, and the app decided that, you know, you should be investigated in th- this time of insane sorrow.

Kat Timpf 15:55 Yeah. Well, we have exac- Well, we have no privacy, and it's, it's one of the sc- It's one of the scariest, biggest issues for me.

Joe Rogan 16:01 It's a giant issue.

Kat Timpf 16:01 It's, it's just how many things between, um, banks and, uh, the government b- able to look at ... They were never supposed to be able to look at all the things that they're looking at.

Joe Rogan 16:10 Right.

Kat Timpf 16:10 And that's why people have to be concerned about stuff like that.

Joe Rogan 16:13 Well, in two separate occasions I've had i- private text messages that were publicly available because of trials.

Kat Timpf 16:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:21 So, I'm t- ... Like, one of 'em was Alex Jones.

Kat Timpf 16:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:24 Alex Jones and I were texting about something.

Kat Timpf 16:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:26 And they wanted every text that Alex Jones and I-

Kat Timpf 16:29 That's mine.

Joe Rogan 16:29 ... had ever sent each other.

Kat Timpf 16:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:31 I'm like, "Well, okay. Why?"

Kat Timpf 16:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:34 'Cause it, it was all about the Sandy Hook thing.

Kat Timpf 16:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:37 And the only text that they found was there was some crazy story and I sent it to him a- and I said, "Is this true?" That's it.

Kat Timpf 16:45 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:45 That's the extent of our discussion. But that got read, like, in court, and then it got printed online, and printed ... And I was like, "Wow, that's crazy."

Kat Timpf 16:53 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:53 Like, that a private communication between people-

Kat Timpf 16:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:56 ... all of a sudden-

Kat Timpf 16:57 That is my n-

Joe Rogan 16:57 ... not just gets read in court, but also gets distributed on the news.

Kat Timpf 17:01 Mm-hmm. That's my nightmare, is having my private (laughs) text messages.

Joe Rogan 17:06 Good luck with my memes folder. (laughs)

Kat Timpf 17:08 (laughs) No. I'm like-

Joe Rogan 17:08 My, my fucking memes folder's chaos.

Kat Timpf 17:10 That's my nightmare. I mean, the things I text-

Joe Rogan 17:12 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 17:12 ... to people being pu- ... Every time I ... Every time that happens, when people's texts get public, I'm more horrified that their texts get public than most of whatever's-

Joe Rogan 17:20 It's such an invasion.

Kat Timpf 17:21 ... in the messages 'cause it's such a vi- ... It's such a violation.

Joe Rogan 17:24 It also doesn't take into account shit talking, right?

Kat Timpf 17:28 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 17:29 Which is a huge factor, especially with people like us.

Kat Timpf 17:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:32 You know? You say funny things to your friends-

Kat Timpf 17:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:34 ... that you don't really mean.

Kat Timpf 17:35 Or sometimes you're just doing a bit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:36 Yes. O- all the time. Like, half of the, the texts that I-

Kat Timpf 17:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:41 ... go back and forth with comedian friends are just-

Kat Timpf 17:43 It-

Joe Rogan 17:43 ... nonsense.

Kat Timpf 17:43 Exactly. A lot of times you're just doing a bit.

Joe Rogan 17:46 100%.

Kat Timpf 17:46 It's something between friends. And if you could see ... So many of my group chats, if you could see ... With comedians, with people ... If you could see what we're saying, I mean, it'd be horrible. It'd be over for me.

Joe Rogan 17:53 Right.

Kat Timpf 17:53 I'd have to start a new life under a new name. But why?

Joe Rogan 17:55 But it wouldn't. It wouldn't, because I think people are done with that horse shit. They think it's stupid. They really do.

Kat Timpf 18:00 It is stupid, but I think more people think it's stupid, but fewer people will admit they think it's stupid, because-

Joe Rogan 18:06 Right.

Kat Timpf 18:06 ... they're worried about it.

Joe Rogan 18:07 Well, that tr- that's true too. And also, there's a lot of people that just love to watch people get fucked over.

Kat Timpf 18:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:13 They really do. And they cheer it on.

Kat Timpf 18:15 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:15 They cheer it on. They get excited about it.

Kat Timpf 18:17 I think it's people who ... I mean, you ... I'm always more interested in examining that.... w- if there's leaked... There's this thing now where it's people are trying to cancel people over things that they said or tweeted or posted when they were re- 13 years old.

Joe Rogan 18:30 I can help you with that.

Kat Timpf 18:31 But-

Joe Rogan 18:31 It's real simple.

Kat Timpf 18:32 Uh, but who- yeah, it's th-

Joe Rogan 18:32 Losers.

Kat Timpf 18:33 They've never reached... Yes.

Joe Rogan 18:34 It's losers.

Kat Timpf 18:34 They've never reached their potential-

Joe Rogan 18:35 Yes.

Kat Timpf 18:36 ... that they thought they would reach. So, if they can't become whoever, maybe they can take whoever down who did.

Joe Rogan 18:41 100%. That's exactly what it is. And it's also, if you look at people's lives, like there's a lot of people out there that are deeply unhappy. Like, what is the statistic... There was some crazy statistic we read recently about the amount of men who are not in relationships and are not having sex. I think it's like 50%. It's something-

Kat Timpf 19:01 Really?

Joe Rogan 19:02 ... something-

Kat Timpf 19:02 50%?

Joe Rogan 19:02 ... bonkers.

Kat Timpf 19:04 50%-

Joe Rogan 19:05 Something-

Kat Timpf 19:05 ... of men are not having sex?

Joe Rogan 19:06 Something bonkers.

Kat Timpf 19:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:08 Like some cr- 'cause people are just online. Like if you have a shit job, you know that Call of Duty is waiting.

Kat Timpf 19:14 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:14 And all you have to do is put those headphones on-

Kat Timpf 19:16 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 19:16 ... and sit in front of that computer.

Kat Timpf 19:18 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 19:18 And now life is exciting.

Kat Timpf 19:20 Ugh. I da-

Joe Rogan (quoting Alexa) 19:21 Hey, maybe ugh. Maybe ugh.

Kat Timpf 19:22 I d- I dated a Call of Duty guy once.

Joe Rogan 19:24 Ah.

Kat Timpf 19:24 So it's a little, it's a little triggering for me. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:26 (laughs) I'm sure.

Kat Timpf 19:26 And I was in my early 20s. I'm like young and beautiful and sitting there. And then he's like on his video g- And I married a ve- a man who fought in an actual war, so that was much better for me. I'm like, "That's good."

Joe Rogan 19:36 It- it's, uh, you'll learn from that. You don't learn anything from the video games.

Kat Timpf 19:39 Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 19:40 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 19:40 I would hate my husband if he didn't go to war, actually.

Joe Rogan 19:42 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 19:42 'Cause he was, he's, you know, like a good man from a good family who was, you know, had a good upbringing and went to boarding school. And I'm like, "If he didn't have any... the trauma of the war, I wouldn't like him, I feel."

Joe Rogan 19:53 That's funny. That's-

Kat Timpf 19:54 Right?

Joe Rogan 19:54 ... intre- well, y- I think people going through things definitely makes them stronger. The rise of sexless men, sexless and single men, a third-

Kat Timpf 20:02 Wow!

Joe Rogan 20:02 So it's a third. I thought it was half.

Kat Timpf 20:04 That's, but that's still alarming.

Joe Rogan 20:04 A third of men aren't having sex and here's why. The last decade alone, we see the number of sexless men between ages 18 and 30 increased by 253%. That's nuts.

Kat Timpf 20:19 Yeah, uh-

Joe Rogan 20:20 Wow. It's just skyrocketing.

Kat Timpf 20:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:24 Yeah, not good.

Kat Timpf 20:25 And then there's-

Joe Rogan 20:25 It's not good.

Kat Timpf 20:25 ... I think-

Joe Rogan 20:25 So, those are the people that are mad at you. (laughs)

Kat Timpf 20:28 Those are the people that are in my Instagram, like, "We feel bad for your husband."

Joe Rogan 20:31 Oh, yeah.

Kat Timpf 20:32 "You're disgusting." Uh-

Joe Rogan 20:33 Yeah, you can't read that stuff.

Kat Timpf 20:34 Oh, I mean, it's funny. I, it's come across it sometimes. But I don't, you know.

Joe Rogan 20:38 It's good to not read-

Kat Timpf 20:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:40 ... that stuff.

Kat Timpf 20:40 It's better not to. But-

Joe Rogan 20:41 It's 100% better not to.

Kat Timpf 20:43 It's better not to.

Joe Rogan 20:44 There's no benefit in reading, even the good stuff.

Kat Timpf 20:47 Som- you know, the good- h- yeah, the good stuff you never, you're like, "Okay. Eh." You know?

Joe Rogan 20:50 Yeah, don't read it.

Kat Timpf 20:50 But sometimes I get, you know, emails that are, they make me laugh. I mean, sometimes I see things that make me laugh. You know?

Joe Rogan 20:56 Yeah, occasionally. But it's not worth the ones that don't.

Kat Timpf 20:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:59 That's the thing.

Kat Timpf 20:59 No, I hear you.

Joe Rogan 20:59 It's like if you ate like gas station trail mix, and every now and then there was a fentanyl in one.

Kat Timpf 21:06 No, I hear (laughs) you.

Joe Rogan 21:07 (laughs) And you know how you feel.

Kat Timpf 21:07 It probably is at this point.

Joe Rogan 21:09 It probably is.

Kat Timpf 21:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:10 But, you know, if you had like 10 bags of trail mix and every now and then one of 'em gives you a pill that puts you in a fucking coma-

Kat Timpf 21:17 No.

Joe Rogan 21:17 ... you would stop eating te- trail mix-

Kat Timpf 21:20 No, I hear what you're saying.

Joe Rogan 21:21 ... from gas stations.

Kat Timpf 21:21 It's hard... I recently posted a, a video where I responded to hate tweets or whatever, and I made my team go find 'em. I was like, "Well, you guys go find the funny ones because I don't wanna look at all of them."

Joe Rogan 21:30 Oh, that's better.

Kat Timpf 21:31 (laughs) It's-

Joe Rogan 21:31 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 21:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:31 Because you don't wanna go down that spiral.

Kat Timpf 21:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:33 Just finding only people who hate you.

Kat Timpf 21:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:36 And when you're dealing with something like Fox News, you're dealing with numbers.

Kat Timpf 21:39 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:39 I mean, the numbers-

Kat Timpf 21:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:40 ... of human beings that see you on TV all the time are huge. And then the numbers of deranged people-

Kat Timpf 21:46 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:46 ... that also think the country's falling apart and they're super tribal, you know?

Kat Timpf 21:49 Yes.

Joe Rogan 21:49 They, they want you to be all in with Trump.

Kat Timpf 21:52 Yes.

Joe Rogan 21:52 All in-

Kat Timpf 21:53 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:54 ... with MAGA.

Kat Timpf 21:54 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:55 And if you're not all in, they're fucking, they're ready to put the duct tape and the fucking zip ties-

Kat Timpf 21:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:59 ... in the truck and head out the door.

Kat Timpf 22:01 It would be so much easier for me to just be all (laughs) in.

Joe Rogan 22:04 I know people who give in.

Kat Timpf 22:05 I-

Joe Rogan 22:05 I know people who do it-

Kat Timpf 22:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:06 ... kind of disingenuously give in on purpose.

Kat Timpf 22:09 Well, I would, I mean, I do well. Right? I sell out shows. I'd sell out all the shows and faster. And I would-

Joe Rogan 22:16 If you were all MAGA?

Kat Timpf 22:17 I would sell more books.

Joe Rogan 22:17 Oh, yeah.

Kat Timpf 22:18 I'm in the platform that I'm on every single night. The people who are watching are MAGA people. And so if I were, you know, if money was the thing I was the most after, I would be an idiot. And maybe I am an idiot.

Joe Rogan 22:30 I don't think you would.

Kat Timpf 22:31 I'd be like, "I can't do it."

Joe Rogan 22:32 No.

Kat Timpf 22:32 "I can't do it."

Joe Rogan 22:33 The thing is, it would change who you are.

Kat Timpf 22:34 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 22:35 Right? So-

Kat Timpf 22:35 I can't do it.

Joe Rogan 22:36 It would ruin what, uh, what y- uh, got you to the dance.

Kat Timpf 22:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:40 That's, that's the problem. It's like you, you're opinionated. You like to have fun, you like to be impulsive and talk, to- to say crazy shit off the cuff.

Kat Timpf 22:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:47 If you're only thinking about appeasing one certain group, that power goes away.

Kat Timpf 22:52 Right. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:53 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 22:53 I just couldn't do... I, I just, I, I, I couldn't. I mean, again, if you actually are super MAGA and you love Trump and you're one of those people, then good for you. I have no judgment of, of that. That's fine. Live your life. Have fun. But is, can you please just, th- be okay with the fact that I'm not the way that I'm okay with you?

Joe Rogan 23:08 Did you see the Amazon Alexa when they asked Alexa-

Kat Timpf 23:12 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 23:13 ... wh- why you should vote for Trump or why you should vote for Biden?

Kat Timpf 23:15 No, I didn't. What happened?

Joe Rogan 23:17 It's crazy.

Kat Timpf 23:18 What happened? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:19 It's so crazy.

Kat Timpf 23:20 What happened?

Joe Rogan 23:20 Jamie, I can send it to you or you mi- you might be able to find it.

Kat Timpf 23:23 It probably...

Joe Rogan 23:24 It is so nuts what Amazon's, what Alexa's response is, the difference between-

Kat Timpf 23:29 I'm sure there's a vast-

Joe Rogan 23:31 ... whether or not-

Kat Timpf 23:31 Yes.

Joe Rogan 23:31 There's a Grand Canyon between the two of 'em.

Kat Timpf 23:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:35 Do you have it or you want me to get it?

Joe Rogan (quoting Alexa) 23:37 Uh, it's I saw... It's one of those things I saw with the ... Hold on. My phone.

Joe Rogan 23:43 Hold on. What is this? Amazon's Alexa differing responses about voting Donald Trump versus Kamala Harris were in error. That it has fixed.

Kat Timpf 23:49 Oh, of course.

Joe Rogan 23:50 Listen, it's not an error.

Kat Timpf 23:50 Yeah. Of course it's not.

Joe Rogan 23:51 It's not an error 'cause they literally asked the exact same questions about, uh, Obama and, or excuse me, about, um, Trump and about Kamala, the exact same questions. I'm sorry. I'm, I'm distracted 'cause I'm trying to look for it while I'm talking.

Joe Rogan (quoting Alexa) 24:07 So, Alexa, why should I vote for Donald Trump?

Joe Rogan 24:12 (laughs)

Narrator 24:12 I cannot provide content that promotes a specific political party or a specific candidate.

Kat Timpf 24:15 Oh, I think I did see this.

Joe Rogan 24:17 Watch this.

Joe Rogan (quoting Alexa) 24:18 Alexa, why should I vote for Kamala Harris?

Narrator 24:25 While there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris, the most significant may be that she is a strong candidate with a proven track record of accomplishment. As the first female vice president, Harris has already broken down a major gender barrier, and her career in politics has been characterized by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on helping disenfranchised communities.

Joe Rogan 24:47 So just-

Kat Timpf 24:48 Yeah. Blatant.

Joe Rogan 24:48 ... woke propaganda straight from Alexa.

Kat Timpf 24:51 Yeah. I-

Joe Rogan 24:51 Just listen to the language being used.

Kat Timpf 24:53 And it's, yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:54 The glass ceiling.

Kat Timpf 24:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:56 Progressive ideas.

Kat Timpf 24:58 It's not surprising. And of course, uh, the Kamala's completely just a- an idea that's been manufactured.

Joe Rogan 25:03 It's been amazing to watch.

Kat Timpf 25:04 It's been so insane to watch.

Joe Rogan 25:06 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 25:07 I mean, the Joe Biden thing, I think is a perfect example. The fact that that went on for so long is a perfect example of the, how the, the, you know, the partis- the hyper-partisanship allows things to happen, because Joe was very clearly not okay for a while.

Joe Rogan 25:20 Right.

Kat Timpf 25:20 I mean, anybody who was watching that and just seeing it, if that's your gran- like your grandpa-

Joe Rogan 25:25 Right.

Kat Timpf 25:25 If that were my grandpa who's, my grandpa's almost 90, so he's got like 10 years on the guy, I'd be like, "Papa, we need to go to the hospital. Like, you're not okay."

Joe Rogan 25:32 Right, right.

Kat Timpf 25:33 But that became a Republican thing to say, so people weren't saying it until they couldn't possibly hide it anymore, right?

Joe Rogan 25:39 Right, right.

Kat Timpf 25:39 So I think that's a perfect example of how partisanship leads to some really stupid shit. But I, I was actually shocked that they threw her in there, and just right before that people were saying, "Worst vice president ever." Obviously.

Joe Rogan 25:52 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 25:52 You know, not popular. Now, now she's, you know, she's brat. Like they're-

Joe Rogan 25:57 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 25:58 ... Charlie XCX is trying to make it cool. It's like she's, she's the DA. She locked people up for cocaine. She's not... For weed.

Joe Rogan 26:05 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 26:05 And you're, she's not brat. It's just so, been so crazy to watch. People are so excited and they don't even know what they're excited about.

Joe Rogan 26:11 It's just gaslighting-

Kat Timpf 26:12 Yes, of course, of course.

Joe Rogan 26:13 ... on an industrial level.

Kat Timpf 26:14 Of course.

Joe Rogan 26:15 On, like a production machine level where you're like, "Wow, look at this thing work."

Kat Timpf 26:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 26:20 "This is nuts."

Kat Timpf 26:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:22 It's like watching a car get put together by robots. Like, "Whoa."

Kat Timpf 26:25 Yeah, yeah. And people get really mad, they, uh, people get mad at me for working at F- I mean, even in my per- personal life for working at Fox News. People are like, "How could you work there?" I'm like, "What do you mean?"

Joe Rogan 26:34 Did you see where they compared the differences in her speech in Detroit versus her speech in Pittsburgh?

Kat Timpf 26:40 Yeah (laughs) , yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:41 Uh, we need to just watch this.

Kat Timpf 26:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:43 First of all, what, what's fascinating is if I was in her court, if I was with, w- working with her I would say, "Listen, listen, listen. First of all, nothing off the cuff ever."

Kat Timpf 26:53 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:53 "Nothing off the cuff ever. No interviews ever. Speeches, just speeches."

Kat Timpf 26:57 Yeah. Teleprompter only.

Joe Rogan 26:57 "We're busy."

Kat Timpf 26:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:58 "We're busy trying to fix the world. We don't have time for interviews."

Kat Timpf 27:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:01 I'd say no interviews, 'cause interviews are when things go sideways."

Kat Timpf 27:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 27:04 So like CNN was 41 minutes, they edited it down to 18.

Kat Timpf 27:07 18.

Joe Rogan 27:07 And all of it sucked. (laughs)

Kat Timpf 27:08 18 minutes of nothing. I o- yeah, I wanna see the rest.

Joe Rogan 27:12 Also like the difference between the way they-

Kat Timpf 27:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:15 ... probe JD Vance versus the way-

Kat Timpf 27:16 Oh, versus her? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:17 ... they probe her and Walt.

Kat Timpf 27:18 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 27:19 So listen, Kamala, Kamala in Detroit versus Kamala in Pittsburgh, literally five hours apart.

Narrator 27:24 Thank a union member for sick leave. You better thank a union member for paid leave.

Kat Timpf 27:27 Unbelievable.

Narrator 27:29 You better thank a union member for vacation time.

Kat Timpf 27:32 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 27:33 The accent.

Narrator 27:37 Thank unions for paid family leave.

Kat Timpf 27:38 I can't.

Narrator 27:38 Thank unions for your vacation time. You better thank a union-

Joe Rogan 27:41 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 27:41 Oh no. It's so embarrassing-

Joe Rogan 27:45 It's been doing-

Narrator 27:45 ... too.

Joe Rogan 27:46 ... i- it would be one thing if she did that all the time.

Kat Timpf 27:48 Right, of course.

Joe Rogan 27:49 But she's got, you know, the ability to talk like that if she enjoys it.

Kat Timpf 27:53 Sure.

Joe Rogan 27:53 You know, if she wants to talk a little shit.

Kat Timpf 27:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:55 And that, that's how she's doing it, but i- i- it seems like it's all this construct. It's all-

Kat Timpf 28:01 Of course it is.

Joe Rogan 28:01 You ever been to Universal in Hollywood where they, they shoot TV shows?

Kat Timpf 28:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:05 And you go down the street and it's these facades that look like a city street.

Kat Timpf 28:09 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 28:09 But behind them is just a bunch of boards holding up the front of the building. There's no house.

Kat Timpf 28:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:14 That's what this is like.

Kat Timpf 28:15 Yeah, it's exactly what it's like. And I still have no idea what... I think she could win. For sure.

Joe Rogan 28:18 She could totally win.

Kat Timpf 28:19 She could totally win.

Joe Rogan 28:19 She t- I know a lot of people that think it's a good idea to vote for her.

Kat Timpf 28:22 Yeah, so do I.

Joe Rogan 28:22 I was watching Ben Stiller with his fucking eyes glazed over-

Kat Timpf 28:25 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:25 ... just talking about how great she's gonna be. I was like, "This is fascinating."

Kat Timpf 28:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:30 And it's, I get it. Like it's the lesser of two evils in their eyes.

Kat Timpf 28:34 Right.

Joe Rogan 28:34 That's what they're looking at. But boy, you should not be happy with this. Nothing about you should be excited about what they've done to you 'cause they've, they've ta- tricked you into talking about something in a very positive way that you just recently-

Kat Timpf 28:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:47 ... didn't talk about in a positive way. And there was nothing that happened-

Kat Timpf 28:50 Nothing happened.

Joe Rogan 28:51 ... that changed that person.

Kat Timpf 28:52 It was nothing that she did. She hadn't even spoken at all for several days and people are like, "Kamala, Kamala." I mean the cover of the Time Magazine without an interview is crazy. Oh man, I'm so jealous. I'm so-

Joe Rogan 29:02 Uh, yeah.

Kat Timpf 29:02 I can't. After I-

Joe Rogan 29:04 Uh-huh.

Kat Timpf 29:04 After I-

Joe Rogan 29:04 You wanna smell it?

Kat Timpf 29:05 After I give birth, I'm gonna just have my husband bring me a pack of Zyn.

Joe Rogan 29:10 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 29:10 Immediately, immediately. Nicotine's the best for writing-

Joe Rogan 29:14 It's, it-

Kat Timpf 29:14 ... for working, for everything.

Joe Rogan 29:15 It's great for a lot of things. It's just the delivery methods-

Kat Timpf 29:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:18 ... are problematic.

Kat Timpf 29:19 I had a problem with vaping for a while.

Joe Rogan 29:21 Oh.

Kat Timpf 29:21 Like it was bad.

Joe Rogan 29:22 Hmm.

Kat Timpf 29:22 I'd be in public with multiple vapes sitting, and I was like, "Ka- you can't. You're, you're gonna, you can't be doing that."

Joe Rogan 29:28 Those are so addictive.

Kat Timpf 29:29 They're so addictive. I, I, I was one of the first vapors. I quit for-

Joe Rogan 29:32 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 29:32 I'm serious. I, I quit.

Joe Rogan 29:34 Uh, my buddy Adam has one of them robot things.

Kat Timpf 29:37 I did. I did.

Joe Rogan 29:37 Lunchboxes. He had one of those.

Kat Timpf 29:38 I had a l- I had a laboratory in my house. It was like- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:43 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 29:43 It was like I was sitting with all my liquids. It was like-

Joe Rogan 29:44 What is the benefit of having like a big box vape?

Kat Timpf 29:47 There's, it just rips harder. I used to love to blow fat clouds.

Joe Rogan 29:52 Rips harder? Jeez.

Kat Timpf 29:52 I was out-

Joe Rogan 29:52 Oh my God.

Kat Timpf 29:53 I was, I, I went, I had to get a dental procedure done, some- something super minor, whatever, like a deep clean. I couldn't vape for 24 hours. I put so many nicotine patches on my body and I still didn't even feel anything. It should have killed me or at least made me throw up the amount. And I was like, "Ugh." And then I still kept vaping.

Joe Rogan 30:10 Damn.

Kat Timpf 30:10 I eventually, when I quit vaping and I was using pouches to help me quit vaping and I was using 12 milligram pouches.

Joe Rogan 30:17 Oh (laughs) .

Kat Timpf 30:17 Like-

Joe Rogan 30:17 I tried those. I can't do it. I start hiccuping-

Kat Timpf 30:19 No.

Joe Rogan 30:19 ... and I have to put them away.

Kat Timpf 30:20 Oh, yeah, most people-

Joe Rogan 30:21 I almost have a fucking heart attack.

Kat Timpf 30:22 Most decent people, which is why I'm saying I had a problem and I quit.

Joe Rogan 30:26 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 30:27 ... now, I got down to six and now zero, obviously, 'cause of this baby.

Joe Rogan 30:31 I use threes. I like threes.

Kat Timpf 30:32 Yeah. I can't wait. I wanna get six. I'm gonna... I can't wait. I'm gonna be in that hospital bed.

Joe Rogan 30:36 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 30:36 I'm gonna be like (vibrating sounds) Like, I can't wait.

Joe Rogan 30:38 But you can't 'cause it'll get in the milk.

Kat Timpf 30:40 That's what I've... I c- y- can you pump and dump, right? I have-

Joe Rogan 30:43 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 30:43 I don't miss alcohol.

Joe Rogan 30:43 But you're gonna be pumping out, you're gonna be pumping out nicotine.

Kat Timpf 30:46 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 30:46 For sure.

Kat Timpf 30:47 Okay, but... (sighs) Is it? Okay-

Joe Rogan 30:49 (buzzer sound)

Kat Timpf 30:49 ... I'm gonna tr-

Joe Rogan 30:50 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 30:52 I'm gonna try.

Joe Rogan 30:52 You're justifying.

Kat Timpf 30:52 No, I'm gonna try to breastfeed, okay?

Joe Rogan 30:55 Oh, you should definitely breastfeed.

Kat Timpf 30:56 I know I should, but it's like, I've already had nine months of no nicotine. That's the thing that's the hardest for me.

Joe Rogan 31:02 Yeah, but once you've kicked it, you should probably try to keep it off.

Kat Timpf 31:05 Mm-hmm. No.

Joe Rogan 31:06 No?

Kat Timpf 31:06 I think-

Joe Rogan 31:07 No?

Kat Timpf 31:07 I think about nicotine every day.

Joe Rogan 31:10 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 31:10 Like, every day.

Joe Rogan 31:11 Were you ever a cigarette smoker?

Kat Timpf 31:13 In college, I smoked when I drank, and in college, I drank a lot, 'cause I was in co-

Joe Rogan 31:16 Wait. (laughs)

Kat Timpf 31:16 ... 'cause I was in college.

Joe Rogan 31:17 Okay. And so then vaping comes along when?

Kat Timpf 31:20 Vaping comes along probably, so w- when I was like, tw- uh, mid-20s. And I did it for eight years.

Joe Rogan 31:27 Whoa.

Kat Timpf 31:27 So-

Joe Rogan 31:27 And do you, uh, start with like regular vapes that you buy at the gas station?

Kat Timpf 31:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:31 And move your way up to robots?

Kat Timpf 31:33 Mm-hmm. I started with the blue cigs.

Joe Rogan 31:35 Okay.

Kat Timpf 31:35 And then they just weren't hitting hard enough for me anymore. I was ripping multiple blue cigs. And then I loved the JUUL. I loved... I, I mean, so there's these things in Detroit called Breezes. I don't know if you can get them other places, but I didn't get them in... I'm from the Detroit area. And I was having... I don't know. My... This is illegal, so I should, probably shouldn't say this, but, uh, my brother may have been sending (laughs) shipments in to me, you know, when they were legal in New York, 'cause the Breezes were the best. And I-

Joe Rogan 31:59 Why were they illegal in New York?

Kat Timpf 32:00 Uh, uh, th- for a while, um... Well, they weren't sold in New York. But for a while there, it was supposed to be... The, the JUULs rather, the JUULs were illegal in New York. And then we weren't sure about what was gonna be legal in New York, 'cause it... Do you remember that? When they made JUUL pods illegal?

Joe Rogan 32:13 I don't, 'cause they, uh, they... I don't think they ever became illegal in California. But they did make, um-

Kat Timpf 32:18 The mango ones, 'cause I was-

Joe Rogan 32:19 Flavored ones were illegal-

Kat Timpf 32:20 The mango-

Joe Rogan 32:21 ... which is hilarious.

Kat Timpf 32:22 The mango. And that was my shit. The mango JUUL, when you get a fresh one and it makes that crackling sound. And honestly, if I found a mango JUUL pod somewhere in my house-

Joe Rogan 32:31 Right now?

Kat Timpf 32:31 ... I, I would ha... I don't... No.

Joe Rogan 32:33 You taking a hit?

Kat Timpf 32:33 Not when I'm pregnant. That's the thing that sucks, is like I love this baby so much that I've not even met yet.

Joe Rogan 32:37 That's wonderful.

Kat Timpf 32:38 Nothing... No, it's, it's like so-

Joe Rogan 32:39 It's a real commitment.

Kat Timpf 32:40 I know, but it's so weird for my brand (laughs) to love this ba... I w- I never thought I'd have kids. I never thought... I, I never wanted to. And then I... Now, I'm like, "My baby's the size of a cucumber." You know?

Joe Rogan 32:51 Well, you're doing the right thing by not feeding it JUULs.

Kat Timpf 32:53 Of course.

Joe Rogan 32:54 I really think so.

Kat Timpf 32:55 Of course.

Joe Rogan 32:55 But, but-

Kat Timpf 32:55 But I'm gonna go back.

Joe Rogan 32:56 ... you have to go back in your mind.

Kat Timpf 32:58 Yes.

Joe Rogan 32:59 Wow.

Kat Timpf 32:59 I'm a better... Uh, both my books I wrote on nicotine had nicotine gum in my... I just wanna like have something-

Joe Rogan 33:06 Mm-hmm.

Kat Timpf 33:06 ... in my jaw.

Joe Rogan 33:07 And what are the, what is the side effects that they think can happen to kids?

Kat Timpf 33:10 Like, premature birth, I think. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:12 Oh, boy.

Kat Timpf 33:13 Like, really bad stuff. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:14 Oh, bad ones. Oh, boy.

Kat Timpf 33:14 Really bad ones. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:15 And is that from smoking? Or is that from-

Kat Timpf 33:17 I think nicotine.

Joe Rogan 33:18 ... nicotine itself?

Kat Timpf 33:19 I mean, I'm really limit... I mean, I can't... It's like you can't really do stimulants when you're pregnant.

Joe Rogan 33:23 Mm-hmm.

Kat Timpf 33:23 You can't do a... You can't do anything when you're pregnant. I can have 200 milligrams of caffeine a day.

Joe Rogan 33:27 So is being off of, um, caffeine hard? Or is it being... You can have 200 milligrams of caffeine a day?

Kat Timpf 33:35 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:35 So is the being off the stimulants, is that the hardest?

Kat Timpf 33:37 Yes.

Joe Rogan 33:37 Or is... That's harder than nicotine?

Kat Timpf 33:40 See, I don't know, 'cause I've always done them together.

Joe Rogan 33:42 And so did you have to wean yourself off or did you go cold turkey as soon as you knew that-

Kat Timpf 33:46 I, I, I had to go cold turkey.

Joe Rogan 33:48 Wow.

Kat Timpf 33:48 'Cause I'd, I... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:48 So what was that like?

Kat Timpf 33:50 Uh, it was a bitch. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:51 For how long?

Kat Timpf 33:52 Couple weeks. It was really rough.

Joe Rogan 33:53 Wow.

Kat Timpf 33:54 Because, uh-

Joe Rogan 33:55 'Cause you have to, like, sort of like... Your equilibrium has to come back?

Kat Timpf 33:58 Yeah. Well, I had a doctor tell me that I probably couldn't get pregnant without medication, that if I took medication, I would have a 10% chance of getting pregnant naturally, as they say, the sex way.

Joe Rogan 34:08 Mm-hmm.

Kat Timpf 34:08 I was just living my life, and then I didn't feel good. And then I took a test and I was like, "Here we go." And we wanted kids. We were, we were planning on starting IVF. And, um, so I just quit everything cold turkey at once.

Joe Rogan 34:19 Wow.

Kat Timpf 34:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:21 And so was it immediately hard or was it hard-

Kat Timpf 34:24 Yes.

Joe Rogan 34:24 ... after? Right away?

Kat Timpf 34:25 Yes.

Joe Rogan 34:25 First day, you're like, "Oh my God, where's my speed?"

Kat Timpf 34:27 I would go to the gym and I'd come back and I'd put a nicotine pouch in. I mean, I really like nicotine a lot. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:32 Wow.

Kat Timpf 34:33 I used to be vaping on airplanes, which is-

Joe Rogan 34:35 Oh my God, so illegal.

Kat Timpf 34:36 It's so illegal.

Joe Rogan 34:37 Did j- did you like do it in your hood?

Kat Timpf 34:38 I would bring a blanket with me on the plane and I'd sit underneath it like a psycho.

Joe Rogan 34:42 Ugh.

Kat Timpf 34:43 Like a psycho. But they're like, you know... What are they gonna do?

Joe Rogan 34:46 (groans)

Kat Timpf 34:46 They can't be like, "Ma'am, you're not allowed to be under a blanket."

Joe Rogan 34:48 Right.

Kat Timpf 34:48 I mean, I looked like a mentally ill, like the s-

Joe Rogan 34:51 But sometimes-

Kat Timpf 34:51 People were probably watching me.

Joe Rogan 34:52 ... you see like little pieces of vapor-

Kat Timpf 34:53 Oh, no. No.

Joe Rogan 34:54 ... come through the blanket.

Kat Timpf 34:54 Because I would, because I would also hold it in as long as I could to get the biggest rush.

Joe Rogan 34:59 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 34:59 I would like... I would hold my breath. Like, and like I'm telling you, this was be... This was cr- I've never seen anybody as bad on it as I was, which is why I can never try crack, 'cause I would like... My life-

Joe Rogan 35:09 Right.

Kat Timpf 35:09 ... would be over in three days. I would love crack. So I don't... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:12 It seems like most people do.

Kat Timpf 35:13 Yeah, they do.

Joe Rogan 35:14 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 35:14 They do.

Joe Rogan 35:15 It seems to be a problem.

Kat Timpf 35:17 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:18 Not just anybody. (laughs) Anybody's like doing a little crack every now and then.

Kat Timpf 35:21 I mean, I couldn't handle the nicotine vapes, so crack, probably not. But again, yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:25 So when did you move to robots?

Kat Timpf 35:27 I moved to robots after th- uh, the JUUL became illegal.

Joe Rogan 35:33 Oh, so-

Kat Timpf 35:33 And I couldn't get the mango. So I was trying to get the same rip I could get off a JUUL.

Joe Rogan 35:37 So you were being like a chemist. You were going-

Kat Timpf 35:40 Yeah, I, I-

Joe Rogan 35:40 ... and mixing oils.

Kat Timpf 35:41 I always mixed. (laughs) I had a... And it was like stick-

Joe Rogan 35:44 Oh.

Kat Timpf 35:45 And they would explode and be sticky everywhere. Sometimes they'd explode in your mouth and you get that like...

Joe Rogan 35:49 My friend Adam Curry uses a robot. He's got that robot lunchbox type thing.

Kat Timpf 35:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:54 And he says it's better.

Kat Timpf 35:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:55 Because he says, first of all, you know it's in there.

Kat Timpf 35:58 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 35:58 Right? 'Cause if you're buying them from... They're making them in Vietnam-

Kat Timpf 36:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:01 ... in some sweatshop somewhere. Have you ever seen those factories where they test them all?

Kat Timpf 36:05 Yeah, it doesn't-

Joe Rogan 36:05 And some guy sucks on every one of them?

Kat Timpf 36:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:07 This one poor guy. You, you think you got it bad?

Kat Timpf 36:09 I would've loved that job. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:12 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 36:12 I would leave my life behind. And move, do you mean I can just rip vapes all day?

Joe Rogan 36:16 Yeah. But you have to live in Shanghai.

Kat Timpf 36:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:19 Yeah. And this fucking dude-

Kat Timpf 36:20 I was doing that job for free.

Joe Rogan 36:22 This dude is, uh, just sucking on these things. I mean, I don't know where they make them. He, he's an Asian fellow, but he just keeps hitting them. He just has to check every one of them to make sure they blow smoke. And so he's grabbing them off the assembly line.

Kat Timpf 36:32 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:33 And putting them in these boxes.

Kat Timpf 36:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:35 So, he's just mainlining nicotine all day long. And whatever those oils are-

Kat Timpf 36:39 That's the thing-

Joe Rogan 36:40 ... that's the problem.

Kat Timpf 36:40 ... is I mainly felt like, if I get lung cancer, I will feel stupid. You know?

Joe Rogan 36:45 Mm-hmm.

Kat Timpf 36:45 I'll be like, "How could I possibly have thought I could get away with doing all this and not have something bad happen?"

Joe Rogan 36:50 Well, is there better oils that those things... Like, when my friend Adam, you know who Adam Curry is? The original Potfather? He's the guy-

Kat Timpf 36:57 I know, I know.

Joe Rogan 36:58 ... very first podcast.

Kat Timpf 36:58 I know who he is. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:59 Yeah. He's, he's the best. But he actually, has those things, and he was trying to convince me that those things are okay.

Kat Timpf 37:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:04 And that the whole, the whole thing about vapes being bad was just, like, the tobacco companies and a bunch of shenanigans. And I was like, "Hmm." I, I don't, I'm paraphrasing. I'm not giving you-

Kat Timpf 37:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:14 ... the full story. But his argument was that those robot lunchbox type vapes, those big fat boys, at least you know what's in there. Like, you know where you're getting your oils. Like, you can get different quality and caliber of nicotine oils.

Kat Timpf 37:28 Yeah. I was, well, I mean, I, I, I believe, there's a lot of studies that show it is way better than cigarettes. I also-

Joe Rogan 37:35 Yeah. But who's funding those studies?

Kat Timpf 37:36 But it's als-, but it's als-, but it's also the way that I've used cigarettes when I've had... Like I c-, I can still, when I go to Europe, again, not when I'm pregnant, but when I can, I can still go to Europe and smoke cigarettes only in Europe and come back and not smoke cigarettes. And there's immediate down sides to cigarettes. You gotta go outside. You smell bad. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da. I was smoking the vape, a vape, hitting the vape when I was in the hospital. After, like, I had-

Joe Rogan 37:58 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 37:58 ... a near-death experience in 2020. Do you know about my shit, I had a shit bag?

Joe Rogan 38:02 No.

Kat Timpf 38:03 So I had a-

Joe Rogan 38:03 What happened?

Kat Timpf 38:04 Ugh. I had a, I know you're jacked, but this is, you're not squeamish, right?

Joe Rogan 38:07 No.

Kat Timpf 38:07 Okay. So I had a bowel perforation. I had a really bad stomach pains. And I went to the hospital, and they told me I need an ileostomy, which is a shit bag. It's the one, they take your small intestine and they pull it out of your stomach and you have a bag. So I had to have that surgery in November of 2020. And I was in the hospital, and I was ripping a vape, for sure while I was in-

Joe Rogan 38:28 Oh, my God.

Kat Timpf 38:28 I had my intestine hanging out of my body and I'm ripping a vape. Uh, I had it for about five weeks and I didn't tell anybody.

Joe Rogan 38:35 Wow.

Kat Timpf 38:35 I wrote about it in my first book, and that's how everybody kind of found out that that had happened to me. And, uh, it was, it was bad. It was really, really rough. And then-

Joe Rogan 38:44 Oof.

Kat Timpf 38:44 ... I got it reversed.

Joe Rogan 38:45 That's good.

Kat Timpf 38:45 I got it reversed, but I had complications.

Joe Rogan 38:48 Oh, that's not good.

Kat Timpf 38:48 So I had complications where I was gushing blood on my ass, 'cause there's a loose staple.

Joe Rogan 38:52 Whoa.

Kat Timpf 38:53 And I needed a transfusion. Guess which day that was, that I had that bad thing happen?

Joe Rogan 38:57 What day?

Kat Timpf 38:57 January 6th.

Joe Rogan 38:58 Oh, my God.

Kat Timpf 38:59 (laughs) Like, that January, the d- January 6th.

Joe Rogan 39:03 Oh, my God.

Kat Timpf 39:04 And I didn't talk publicly about this for a long time. So whenever I w- I was on the news, like, I, people would ask me, it comes up a lot. And like, I'd be thinking about-

Joe Rogan 39:12 You.

Kat Timpf 39:12 I, yes. But I, I, I would-

Joe Rogan 39:13 You almost died. You were bleeding out of your butt.

Kat Timpf 39:14 I was literally, I, I will never forget this. I've, I've never talked about this before, actually, this specific thing. I will never forget this. On January 6th, I, I'm, I'm all doped up, right? Like if you, if you have stuff like that, they'll let you have a Dilaudid drip. I'm like all doped up.

Joe Rogan 39:27 Wee!

Kat Timpf 39:27 I, yeah, I, I tw- I tweeted, or I posted on Facebook, tweeted, whatever, posted something along the lines of, this is actually on my personal Facebook, it's shared too, and it was like, uh, the news is stressful, turning on a Ted Bundy documentary to relax. Something like that. And I looked at my personal Facebook, and some dude who I knew from doing open mics in Baltimore had commented like, "Oh, are you stressed out about, you know, basically that, like, work, that you did this?" You know, 'cause I work at Fox, and I did January 6th.

Joe Rogan 39:56 Oh, God.

Kat Timpf 39:56 And I'm sitting there on a bucket, in a hospital, with blood gushing out of my ass.

Joe Rogan 40:02 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 40:02 And this dude that I did open mics with eight years ago was trying to tell me that he's having a bad day. You know? It's like-

Joe Rogan 40:10 Well, he's trying to shame you.

Kat Timpf 40:11 He's trying to sha-

Joe Rogan 40:12 Pro- he's trying to blame you for this insurrection attempt.

Kat Timpf 40:15 Right.

Joe Rogan 40:15 What he perceives to be.

Kat Timpf 40:16 Right. Which again-

Joe Rogan 40:17 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 40:17 ... I, I was in, I was in the hospital-

Joe Rogan 40:19 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 40:19 ... having, you know, I would, I would say I had a worse January 6th than a lot of people.

Joe Rogan 40:23 I would say so.

Kat Timpf 40:24 I would, right? I mean, and I'm just reading that-

Joe Rogan 40:26 Ashli Babbitt probably had the worst.

Kat Timpf 40:27 The worst, yes.

Joe Rogan 40:28 Yeah, she had the worst.

Kat Timpf 40:28 Absolutely, absolutely.

Joe Rogan 40:30 Um, but here's what's fucked. It's exactly what we were talking about with comments.

Kat Timpf 40:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:33 Who was that guy? That's a guy who's a failure.

Kat Timpf 40:35 Some dude, exactly.

Joe Rogan 40:36 Who you started out open mics-

Kat Timpf 40:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:38 ... and he remembers.

Kat Timpf 40:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:38 And now you're successful, and he's not.

Kat Timpf 40:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:41 And he's like, "Yeah, you caused the fucking collapse-"

Kat Timpf 40:43 (laughs) Yeah, I did.

Joe Rogan 40:43 ... "of democracy-"

Kat Timpf 40:44 I did.

Joe Rogan 40:44 ... "with your jokes."

Kat Timpf 40:46 Out, from this bucket-

Joe Rogan 40:47 Yeah. (laughs)

Kat Timpf 40:47 ... where (laughs) -

Joe Rogan 40:50 Bleeding out of your butt.

Kat Timpf 40:51 Literally the most humbling probably moment of my life-

Joe Rogan 40:55 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 40:55 ... where I was like, "I am a fragile, fragile human being."

Joe Rogan 40:58 Oh, that's hilarious.

Kat Timpf 40:58 Right? There's some crazy lady next to me too. She was some lady, she was like 90 years old.

Joe Rogan 41:03 Oh, no.

Kat Timpf 41:03 And you know, she thought they, that, they, they wanted to give her potassium supplements, so she was talking out loud about how they're trying to poison her with something. And-

Joe Rogan 41:09 Oh.

Kat Timpf 41:10 ... I had her commented, 'cause we were all watching the January 6th, it was on in the hospital, right? We were all kind of watching it together.

Joe Rogan 41:15 Right.

Kat Timpf 41:15 And she was like, "Well, everybody loved Trump at first, and now they don't." And she was like, "Everybody, those are all Russians at the Capitol," and I was like-

Joe Rogan 41:22 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 41:23 (laughs) And I'm sitting there on my bucket, like a foot away from this woman.

Joe Rogan 41:27 Oh!

Kat Timpf 41:27 And I'm like, "Mm-hmm." Like, I'm like, I thought she was talking to me.

Joe Rogan 41:30 Oh, I would've been asking her questions.

Kat Timpf 41:31 I was.

Joe Rogan 41:32 I would've given up on any idea of a real conversation. Just, this is not-

Kat Timpf 41:36 Of course-

Joe Rogan 41:36 ... a real conversation.

Kat Timpf 41:36 ... you can't, you're not talking with this woman.

Joe Rogan 41:38 ... 'cause you can't get frustrated.

Kat Timpf 41:39 No.

Joe Rogan 41:39 You can't get frustrated. And go, "Those aren't Russians."

Kat Timpf 41:40 No.

Joe Rogan 41:40 "What are you talking about?"

Kat Timpf 41:41 No.

Joe Rogan 41:41 "They're probably feds."

Kat Timpf 41:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:42 "Okay, you don't even know." Like, "Hey, lady." (laughs)

Kat Timpf 41:45 I just remember being like, totally. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:47 Yeah, you gotta, you gotta ask her questions.

Kat Timpf 41:49 Yeah, totally.

Joe Rogan 41:49 Like, what have you read? What have you read that brightened to those conclusions?

Kat Timpf 41:53 I don't think she knew what she'd read, but she was speaking very-

Joe Rogan 41:56 "Brian Stelter told me."

Kat Timpf 41:57 She was speaking very matter-of-factly, like-

Joe Rogan 42:00 Oh, yeah. People love to do that.

Kat Timpf 42:01 Yeah. But it-

Joe Rogan 42:02 Espe- Well, also, probably they're giving her potassium supplements probably 'cause her fucking brain is shutting down, right?

Kat Timpf 42:07 She, she was really old.

Joe Rogan 42:08 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 42:08 She was really old.

Joe Rogan 42:08 And probably not doing so well, like health-wise. They're giving her potassium supplements.

Kat Timpf 42:13 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:13 That's what they're trying to say, "Hey, your electrolyte balance is off."

Kat Timpf 42:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:15 "Fuckin' nothing's firing correctly."

Kat Timpf 42:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:18 "You got real problems."

Kat Timpf 42:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:19 She's probably cramping up.

Kat Timpf 42:20 The ho- yeah, the hospital was a bad, I mean, it's always a bad, it's like a bad hang, right? It's horrible.

Joe Rogan 42:24 But if you could talk to someone really dumb who's like really into something politically-

Kat Timpf 42:29 Oh.

Joe Rogan 42:29 ... you could get kinda insight.

Kat Timpf 42:30 Well, I had the, when I was in the hospital for my first surgery, there was this lady who was like, she was farting really loud. And then s- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:36 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 42:36 She was singing. She was like giving glory to God for her farts that she was-

Joe Rogan 42:40 Oh, boy.

Kat Timpf 42:41 So I was turning up my Forensic Files as loud as I could, just like cranking it up.

Joe Rogan 42:44 Mm-hmm.

Kat Timpf 42:44 And she asked me if I could turn it down.

Joe Rogan 42:46 Mm.

Kat Timpf 42:46 And I already had- l- this is the day of my first... I'd already been having, like, the worst day of my life.

Joe Rogan 42:50 Mm-hmm.

Kat Timpf 42:51 So, I was like, "How the fuck could you ask me to..." But then we wound up talking all night, like, and I have her number in my phone still.

Joe Rogan 42:56 Oh.

Kat Timpf 42:56 Because, because when you're in a hospital, and I was by myself because this was during COVID, and in New York, my husband was allow- he could come visit for... I could have two visitors a day, maximum, two people for a maximum two hours, and not past 6:00 PM.

Joe Rogan 43:09 Wow.

Kat Timpf 43:09 So, I was scared. I had this near-death experience, and then complications on the reversal. I was alone the entire time.

Joe Rogan 43:15 Mm.

Kat Timpf 43:16 And you need... I mean, and again, I'm, I'm lucky 'cause I lived through it, right? There's people who died, obviously.

Joe Rogan 43:23 Right.

Kat Timpf 43:23 I'm still... I- it was just so horrible and scary to do that by myself, and also, it's... Hospitals, you need an advocate, because I was so doped up, they, like, weren't... Like, my sheets weren't being washed as much as they should've been.

Joe Rogan 43:35 Mm.

Kat Timpf 43:35 I couldn't do... You know? It's just like you need someone-

Joe Rogan 43:37 Someone needs to look out for you.

Kat Timpf 43:37 Hey, she need-

Joe Rogan 43:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kat Timpf 43:38 You know, she's... Hey. But I didn't-

Joe Rogan 43:40 Yeah. Hospital workers, like everybody else, some of them are really good and some of them suck.

Kat Timpf 43:44 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:44 And also, it's just... It's weird to be alone like that.

Kat Timpf 43:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:47 Like, there's no reason why you should have had to have been alone.

Kat Timpf 43:50 No.

Joe Rogan 43:50 If it's okay for someone to sit with you, that should be fine.

Kat Timpf 43:53 Wh- why couldn't he stay?

Joe Rogan 43:54 Yeah. I mean, I've had family members in the hospital before, you just sit next to them and read a book-

Kat Timpf 43:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:58 ... and they feel comfortable. They, they... Someone that they love is there.

Kat Timpf 44:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:01 It makes them feel better.

Kat Timpf 44:02 I had my insides-

Joe Rogan 44:03 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 44:03 ... hanging out of my body.

Joe Rogan 44:05 You should have somebody with you.

Kat Timpf 44:06 I should be able-

Joe Rogan 44:06 Two hours is nuts, like why?

Kat Timpf 44:08 No. It's just a... But again, you're already letting him in.

Joe Rogan 44:10 Right.

Kat Timpf 44:10 Like, what? Does it get worse in the night that he can't stay past 6:00 PM? Because also, he had w- work and... But he still, obviously, he came, you know, to see me every day. But he couldn't come for very long and he had to leave.

Joe Rogan 44:21 Right.

Kat Timpf 44:21 And I was there by myself, and it was so scary.

Joe Rogan 44:23 Mm.

Kat Timpf 44:24 And there was, there was no benefit to it, it was just because of COVID.

Joe Rogan 44:27 Pshh. Oh, that's why.

Kat Timpf 44:29 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 44:29 Oh, okay.

Kat Timpf 44:30 That was the-

Joe Rogan 44:30 How dumb is that?

Kat Timpf 44:31 But it doesn't make sense.

Joe Rogan 44:31 No.

Kat Timpf 44:31 Because the d- if he had COVID, it'd already be in there.

Joe Rogan 44:34 Two fucking hours.

Kat Timpf 44:34 From the two hours he was in there.

Joe Rogan 44:36 Yeah, that's plenty of time to give it to you.

Kat Timpf 44:37 It's... Yeah. It, yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:39 God, it's so stupid.

Kat Timpf 44:39 They told me, I will never forget that. When I, when I woke up from the first surgery, they came in and they told me that they had good news and that I tested negative for COVID.

Joe Rogan 44:48 Oh, my god.

Kat Timpf 44:49 I was like, "I don't fucking care."

Joe Rogan 44:52 Oh, my god.

Kat Timpf 44:52 My... His small intestine is hanging out of my stomach. I don't-

Joe Rogan 44:55 They don't even test for it anymore.

Kat Timpf 44:57 No, they don't. Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 44:58 Yeah. My, my daughter had a pretty, like, a pretty loud cold, or cough.

Kat Timpf 45:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:02 And they brought her to the ho- I was telling my wife, "She probably got the vid."

Kat Timpf 45:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:05 "She probably got the vid, it's going around."

Kat Timpf 45:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:06 Did... I... Uh, she goes, "No, she's got a, uh, nasal infection." And I said, "Did they test for COVID?" She was like, "No."

Kat Timpf 45:12 No. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:12 I'm like, "They didn't even test?" You're cau- Like, if this was two years ago, they would 100% immediately test you for COVID.

Kat Timpf 45:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 45:20 But yet they're still talking about COVID, and they don't even test kids for it.

Kat Timpf 45:23 I tested myself 'cau-... I had it in July, and I tested myself only 'cause I'm pregnant and I wanted to know, like, what to expect.

Joe Rogan 45:29 Right.

Kat Timpf 45:29 And I got really sick 'cause my immune system's trash. Again, 'cause of this baby. No nicotine, can't fight off illnesses.

Joe Rogan 45:35 Are you doing anything to supplement your vitamins?

Kat Timpf 45:37 I'm doing just prenatals, probiotics, that's it.

Joe Rogan 45:40 Prenatals?

Kat Timpf 45:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:41 What is that? A company sells prenatal vitamins?

Kat Timpf 45:43 Yeah. A company sells prenatal vitamins.

Joe Rogan 45:44 That's it?

Kat Timpf 45:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:45 Yeah?

Kat Timpf 45:46 Mm-hmm. I mean, I eat food now a lot more than I used to.

Joe Rogan 45:48 Mm.

Kat Timpf 45:49 I didn't... I used to be chewing nicotine gum all day. It doesn't make you hungry.

Joe Rogan 45:52 There's supposed to be some real benefits to nutritional supplementation while your, your baby is being born inside of you, like, like, or being created inside of you. Like, maybe, possibly going to a place and getting your blood work drawn.

Kat Timpf 46:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:04 Finding, like, what nutrients you're deficient in, and it could really help you. I-

Kat Timpf 46:08 I should.

Joe Rogan 46:09 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 46:09 I should do stuff like that.

Joe Rogan 46:10 It can help you. You know? I mean, it's all just simple, basic, natural stuff like vitamin C and vitamin D and vitamin K2...

Kat Timpf 46:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:17 ... and all that stuff, but y- your body really extra needs that. You're making a little human.

Kat Timpf 46:23 I know, and it's the weirdest thing.

Joe Rogan 46:24 I get... I can only imagine.

Kat Timpf 46:26 I mean, I... A- again, I didn't use to be someone who ate l- ai- ai- I eat all day now. You know? I didn't use to... I mean, I eat food at night. Like, I used to not eat all day.

Joe Rogan 46:35 You were on speed.

Kat Timpf 46:36 Of course.

Joe Rogan 46:37 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 46:37 Yes. But I was like... Also, nicotine gum all, like, chew- I- I- always. Nicotine gum, in my mouth.

Joe Rogan 46:43 You know, my friends that have quit cigarettes, that's the first thing they say, they get fat.

Kat Timpf 46:46 Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 46:47 They immediately start gaining weight. 'Cause nicotine's really, uh, essentially kind of a speed too.

Kat Timpf 46:50 But-

Joe Rogan 46:50 It's a little bit of a stimulant.

Kat Timpf 46:52 I was s- so much-

Joe Rogan 46:53 And an appetite suppressant, right?

Kat Timpf 46:54 So, I was... Yes, and I was... But I was honestly so used to this, the amphetamines and that, so I was on Vyvanse, which is slow release. Adderall, I don't like. I was on Adderall briefly and it was too much for me. I, I was jittery, I was anxious, I was... No, I won't do Adderall.

Joe Rogan 47:06 Okay.

Kat Timpf 47:07 And the Vyvanse is slow release, it's- I- doesn't make me feel... So, when I w- first went off of it, I... Yes, I ate... Like, uh, I gained, like, 10 pounds in six weeks, right?

Joe Rogan 47:17 Mm-hmm.

Kat Timpf 47:18 But now I feel like I'm just as hungry as I was when I was on Adderall without the nicotine.

Joe Rogan 47:24 Mm.

Kat Timpf 47:25 So, I, I... Because I got so used to it.

Joe Rogan 47:27 Right.

Kat Timpf 47:27 So, I wasn't ever really getting this, like, zoof, which Adderall I did get from- that from.

Joe Rogan 47:33 How does that go?

Kat Timpf 47:34 Voof.

Joe Rogan 47:34 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 47:34 Like, rah, like your skull, like at... I didn't like that.

Joe Rogan 47:37 Is that what it's like?

Kat Timpf 47:37 I didn't like it. E- e-

Joe Rogan 47:38 How long did you do it for?

Kat Timpf 47:39 So, I did it because my insurance didn't cover Vyvanse back when I lived in DC.

Joe Rogan 47:43 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 47:43 So, I was like, "I need something." Right?

Joe Rogan 47:45 Did you get street Adderall?

Kat Timpf 47:46 No. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not... No. Mm-mm. I'm not doing that, certainly not. Only doctors. I only m- (laughs) my drug dealers are all actual doctors.

Joe Rogan 47:54 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 47:54 So, (laughs) I- I- I- I was like, "Okay, I'll do Adderall. How much different can it be?" And it was, like, bad. And if I ever forgot to take it, I was like... I was like walking into a wall. Like, I couldn't... Like, I was, like, sleeping, I couldn't do it.

Joe Rogan 48:06 Wow.

Kat Timpf 48:06 I couldn't do it. So then, I just, like, found coupons somewhere and my doctor helped me up. I was like, "I will sacrifice in other areas to afford the Vyvanse," because I don't know how people take this. Like, I- Adderall, I couldn't do.

Joe Rogan 48:16 So, you took it for how many months?

Kat Timpf 48:17 Uh, uh, a couple months, probably like-

Joe Rogan 48:19 A couple months?

Kat Timpf 48:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:20 And what, what doses were they giving you?

Kat Timpf 48:22 Probably 30.

Joe Rogan 48:23 Is that a lot, Jamie? I mean, that's-

Kat Timpf 48:25 It's...

Joe Rogan 48:25 ... that's the one you're saying was a lot? That's pretty st- The other day it was 20s, so that's, like, much- Someone was talking about 20s? Yeah. Yeah.

Kat Timpf 48:31 I've taken, I've, I've taken Metadate, I've taken... Again, I was, I was... I'm, I'm one of those... When they say, like, study the kids who were put on Ritalin when they're five-

Joe Rogan 48:38 Mm-hmm.

Kat Timpf 48:39 You're looking at one.

Joe Rogan 48:40 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 48:40 Like, this is me. That's... I mean, I was on... And, and, and it's... You know, it is harder. It is really a lot harder for me to live and do basic shit, but...... it's been interesting.

Joe Rogan 48:51 That's Henry Rollins' story, too.

Kat Timpf 48:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:53 They put him on Ritalin when he was five years old as well.

Kat Timpf 48:56 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:56 And he said, like, he was just fucking, "Ah."

Kat Timpf 48:58 But I wish-

Joe Rogan 48:58 All day at school just gritting his teeth, like-

Kat Timpf 49:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:01 ... all this energy just buzzed up on speed.

Kat Timpf 49:03 See, I never felt (laughs) I didn't feel like that.

Joe Rogan 49:06 You didn't feel like that?

Kat Timpf 49:06 Except the Adderall. I- that- that's- I can't. That- I- I- that's not for me. Adderall's not for me.

Joe Rogan 49:11 Hmm.

Kat Timpf 49:11 I won't do Adderall.

Joe Rogan 49:12 Well, I know a lot of people that really love it and all- they're all kind of out of control. They're all just-

Kat Timpf 49:18 Oh.

Joe Rogan 49:18 ... a little bit off the rails.

Kat Timpf 49:19 Oh. If I take Adderall... I- I thought... I forgot... I remember I forgot my Vyvanse one time, and I took A- someone's Adderall. Like, this was a few years ago. And I- immediately I'm texting everyone on my phone, like, "Am I gonna be okay?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:30 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 49:30 "Tell me I'm okay." Like-

Joe Rogan 49:31 Oh, my God.

Kat Timpf 49:31 ... "Are you mad?" That's not... I- like, I- I- I'm exhausted enough to be around as a p- person just naturally. I don't need, I don't need the Adderall adding to the problem, you know? I feel like I- the world's collapsing around me, and that's not a good feeling.

Joe Rogan 49:44 It's just nuts how many doctors pre- prescribe that stuff.

Kat Timpf 49:47 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:48 And- and how many people are on it. Like, the- the- the- what was it, 39 million? Is that what it was? Prescriptions last year? Some kooky like that. It's probably more than that, 'cause I think that was actually 2021, now that I think about it, so it's probably way more than that now.

Kat Timpf 50:03 Yeah. I mean, I- I was one of the first. And I think I will-

Joe Rogan 50:06 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 50:06 ... I think I will go back, but then I'm like, maybe I should try just nicotine. But a doctor probably wouldn't recommend that. But what do they know?

Joe Rogan 50:13 Yeah, most doctors are not gonna recommend nicotine ever.

Kat Timpf 50:15 Right. It's-

Joe Rogan 50:16 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 50:16 I'm a better person 'cause of nicotine.

Joe Rogan 50:18 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 50:18 And I know that's not, like, popular to- like, don't... Like, that's not for the kids. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:23 (laughs) They're listening.

Kat Timpf 50:24 That's (laughs) popular. But I- I don't know. I be- I be- I be w- you know, writing, whenever I'm writing, sometimes I'll be like, "Ugh. I- I- I'm so... I- I'm so..." Like, I need to get a sentence perfect.

Joe Rogan 50:33 Mm-hmm.

Kat Timpf 50:33 When I'm writing. I'll s- I'll spend hours sometimes on a single sentence if I think it's a really important sentence.

Joe Rogan 50:37 Mm-hmm.

Kat Timpf 50:38 And I'll be like, "I don't know. I don't know." And then I'll put a- put a zyn in or put nicotine, and then I will get it.

Joe Rogan 50:43 Have you ever tried other nootropics?

Kat Timpf 50:46 Um, yeah. I mean, I'm just nicotine. I mean, yes, but...

Joe Rogan 50:49 But have you ever tried the things like, um... You- you ever heard of NeuroGum? You know what NeuroGum is?

Kat Timpf 50:55 Mm-mm. No, not that.

Joe Rogan 50:56 There's... We have some over here in that blue bag right there.

Kat Timpf 50:58 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:58 NeuroGum is... I don't have anything to do with this company, by the way. Just something, like-

Kat Timpf 51:01 Okay.

Joe Rogan 51:02 Um, NeuroGum is gum that has theanine in it and caffeine, and it enhances brain function.

Kat Timpf 51:08 Yeah, I've tried, uh, theanine before.

Joe Rogan 51:10 And then there's some other stuff that you can get. Uh, we sell something at On Nit called Alpha Brain, and there's Alpha Brain then Alpha Brain Black Label, which is, like, the more potent form- version. That stuff's very legit. Really helps memory, really helps-

Kat Timpf 51:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:25 So, we did... They... Back in the day when we first put it out, a lot of people were like, "This is fucking snake oil, so I..." Well, okay, let's find out, because there's studies, but there's no, there's no real... Like, let's find out. Let's get something definitive. So we did two double-blind placebo-controlled studies at the Boston Center for Memory-

Kat Timpf 51:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 51:40 ... where they found increase in... Increase in verbal memory, so your abil- ability to recall words, um, increase in reaction time, increase in, uh, alpha flow state. So there was a bunch of, like, recognizable benefits at a dose that was lower than what I was taking.

Kat Timpf 51:58 Okay.

Joe Rogan 51:58 It was like half what I was taking.

Kat Timpf 52:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:00 Like, we were... I think the dose was two pills, and I- I'd do four.

Kat Timpf 52:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:03 And, uh, like- a lot of times when I'm getting crazy I'll do six.

Kat Timpf 52:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:06 If I have something important. Like if I have a UFC, UFCs require six.

Kat Timpf 52:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:10 'Cause it's... So, it's six hours. I'm sitting down there-

Kat Timpf 52:12 That's... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:12 ... for six hours. I bring snacks, and, uh, I drink Monsters, and I have, uh, Alpha Brain.

Kat Timpf 52:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:20 And I- and I fucking lock it in.

Kat Timpf 52:22 I am excited to start... Um, uh, to own my body again and be able to take whatever I want.

Joe Rogan 52:27 You gotta start doing stuff. But you should try some other stuff that doesn't... You know, like, there's some other stuff that will give you benefits but doesn't give you that weird feeling, you know, that accelerated feeling.

Kat Timpf 52:36 I don't like that 'cause I'm anxious enough as it is.

Joe Rogan 52:39 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 52:39 I'm actually a very anxious person.

Joe Rogan 52:41 I have a friend whose daughter was on, uh, ADHD medication, and she's getting off of it, and he started giving her Alpha Brain.

Kat Timpf 52:48 Okay.

Joe Rogan 52:48 And he said it helped her tremendously.

Kat Timpf 52:50 I actually never thought I could go off of it. Like, I actually... That was, um, um, one of my concerns in terms of actually getting pregnant.

Joe Rogan 52:57 That you was gonna be like that for the rest of your life.

Kat Timpf 52:58 That... Uh, like, that I... When I went off of it, I mean, I was like, "What do I... The... I'm in it now, baby. There's nothing-"

Joe Rogan 53:05 But you seem totally fine-

Kat Timpf 53:07 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:07 ... coherent. You're- you're talking very quickly.

Kat Timpf 53:10 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:10 You know, like, you're not exha- you're not exhausted, right?

Kat Timpf 53:12 No. No, I'm not exhausted.

Joe Rogan 53:14 So, this is you.

Kat Timpf 53:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:15 This is actually you.

Kat Timpf 53:16 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:16 You wanna go back to speed you.

Kat Timpf 53:18 I wanna do... (laughs) I do.

Joe Rogan 53:19 (laughs) But that's... That's kind of crazy that that's an option.

Kat Timpf 53:20 Because I could've walked out of here no matter what, and we'd be like, "Oh, I'd have been so much better if I would've been on Adderall." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:25 That's so crazy. (laughs)

Kat Timpf 53:26 I'm gonna be like, "If I wouldn't..."

Joe Rogan 53:28 Maybe you wouldn't. Maybe you wouldn't connect as well.

Kat Timpf 53:29 But I don't know, because it's... I'm- I'm... It's so weird 'cause I feel like I'm getting to meet myself, but also it's not really myself because of the pregnancy, 'cause this is pregnant me.

Joe Rogan 53:39 Right.

Kat Timpf 53:40 But then I kind of am curious to stay off of it a little longer when I'm not pregnant just to see.

Joe Rogan 53:45 I think you should.

Kat Timpf 53:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:46 You seem like a wonderful person off of it.

Kat Timpf 53:48 So you're my primary care physician now.

Joe Rogan 53:50 Yes. I'm- I'm your doctor.

Kat Timpf 53:50 Okay. (laughs) All right.

Joe Rogan 53:51 You seem like a wonderful person off of it. I don't think you need it. I think everybody would like to be a little bit more productive, especially if you're a creative type-

Kat Timpf 53:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:59 ... if you're a writer, if you're doing things, you'd like to be a little bit more productive. But, um, there's no biological free lunch.

Kat Timpf 54:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:07 And there's probably gonna be some sort of long-term damage to a lifetime of stimulating your system.

Kat Timpf 54:14 Oh, there's gonna be (laughs) ...

Joe Rogan 54:14 I know a lot of people that did a lot of coke in the 1970s-

Kat Timpf 54:18 Oh.

Joe Rogan 54:18 ... and they're all fucked up. A lot of them died with neurological conditions.

Kat Timpf 54:23 Oh, yeah. Coke is... That is n- I've got... I- I have no interest in cocaine.

Joe Rogan 54:27 Yeah. But you know what I'm saying? But I just wonder i- if the difference between you and coke, you know, five nights a week for a few hours a night versus a pill that you're taking every fucking day that jacks your system up.

Kat Timpf 54:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:40 Who knows if you're gonna blow a fuse over time. Like, who knows?

Kat Timpf 54:43 Oh, I've definitely considered that. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:45 Right. It is-

Kat Timpf 54:46 I've definitely considered that. For me, it was just... That there was... I had... I didn't function off of it-

Joe Rogan 54:50 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 54:50 ... so I didn't try.

Joe Rogan 54:52 Now what about... Have you ever tried NuVigil or Provigil?

Kat Timpf 54:55 I was on Provigil briefly, but I was... I forget why I went on Provigil instead of everything else, but it was... Oh, I was diagnosed briefly, I've never talked about this, with narcolepsy.

Joe Rogan 55:06 Oh.

Kat Timpf 55:07 But I don't think I really have it.

Joe Rogan 55:09 ... did you fall asleep?

Kat Timpf 55:10 I fell asleep a lot in the sleep study, but this was also in college. And, like-

Joe Rogan 55:14 You probably exhausted.

Kat Timpf 55:14 ... I smoked a lot of weed in college. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:16 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 55:18 So, so I really (laughs) -

Joe Rogan 55:19 So, you were just exhausted.

Kat Timpf 55:20 ... I, I really think I might've just been, like, had a stone over from the way-

Joe Rogan 55:24 Oh my God, that's hilarious.

Kat Timpf 55:25 And again, and-

Joe Rogan 55:26 And they said, "You got narcolepsy."

Kat Timpf 55:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:27 "Take some pills." (laughs)

Kat Timpf 55:29 (laughs) I've never (laughs) , I've never talked about this, and I've actually kind of just remembered it.

Joe Rogan 55:34 Oh.

Kat Timpf 55:34 But yeah, I, and I c- couldn't stay awake for the sleep study.

Joe Rogan 55:37 Oh my God.

Kat Timpf 55:37 So they were like, "She's got narcolepsy." No one was ever like, "Hey, are you taking bong rips?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:42 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 55:42 Like ... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:45 Why are you so sleepy, Kat?

Kat Timpf 55:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:48 Oh my God, that's so funny.

Kat Timpf 55:48 Which I think that must've been why. Looking back, (laughs) the-

Joe Rogan 55:53 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 55:53 ... the fact that I was taking that many bong rips, and again, I got, I was ... I graduated at the top of my class. I was very studious, worked hard, but I just sm- at college, smoked, smoked a lot of weed.

Joe Rogan 56:02 Yeah, you were probably sleepy.

Kat Timpf 56:03 And I was sleepy. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:06 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 56:06 I might've-

Joe Rogan 56:06 That's so crazy.

Kat Timpf 56:07 I might've smoked, like, the afternoon before-

Joe Rogan 56:09 Ugh.

Kat Timpf 56:09 ... or the day before. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:10 How crazy is it that that's th- all the requirement that they have to give you a drug?

Kat Timpf 56:14 They're like, "She looks pretty sleepy right now." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:16 "You look pretty sleepy. You must have narcolepsy." Like, not, "You're tired?" Not, "Are you staying up all night?"

Kat Timpf 56:20 Not even-

Joe Rogan 56:20 "Do you have a lot going on at your house? Are you not getting any sleep?"

Kat Timpf 56:23 Not even- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:24 No, you're ... "You have narcolepsy. Here, take a pill."

Kat Timpf 56:27 They ... I would've t- I would've told them the truth. They'd never ... Nobody ever asked me, like, you know-

Joe Rogan 56:29 They didn't ask because they don't give a fuck. They just wanna give you a pill. They wanna give you a pill-

Kat Timpf 56:33 Yeah, I, I get that.

Joe Rogan 56:34 ... and the more they prescribe, the more money they make. Let's go. And they're like, "You need Provigil."

Kat Timpf 56:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:39 And you're like, "Okay."

Kat Timpf 56:40 And then I took it, and then I, I stopped taking it, and I went back to, I think, Metadate, which is another stimulant.

Joe Rogan 56:47 Wow.

Kat Timpf 56:48 Um-

Joe Rogan 56:48 But Provigil doesn't seem like a stimulant. Does it ... Did it seem like it did for you?

Kat Timpf 56:51 No, it wasn't.

Joe Rogan 56:53 And then there's Nuvigil. Nuvigil's-

Kat Timpf 56:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:54 ... another version of it. I don't know what the difference is, but they both seem to work the same way. I used to take it if I had to drive, like if, uh, I was in San Diego and I did a gig, and then, like, it's 11 o'clock. Show's over. I could be home in my bed at 2:00 in the morning-

Kat Timpf 57:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:07 ... m- l- latest, you know? It's not really a three-hour drive unless there's traffic.

Kat Timpf 57:11 Right.

Joe Rogan 57:12 But you know how it is if you're driving in the road and it's late at night.

Kat Timpf 57:15 I don't drive.

Joe Rogan 57:15 There's no one th- okay. Well-

Kat Timpf 57:16 Anymore. I miss it.

Joe Rogan 57:18 When I would be on the road and I was ... Is it 'cause of narcolepsy?

Kat Timpf 57:20 No, it isn't. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:22 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 57:23 No, it's because I haven't in 10 years.

Joe Rogan 57:25 Oh.

Kat Timpf 57:26 So I'm not sure I remember how.

Joe Rogan 57:27 It s-

Kat Timpf 57:27 Which-

Joe Rogan 57:27 It's like driving a bike.

Kat Timpf 57:28 My husband is like, "You need to learn."

Joe Rogan 57:30 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 57:30 Like, uh, you know what I make this poor man do, or I have made him do the past five years?

Joe Rogan 57:34 What?

Kat Timpf 57:34 So I have a cat that is f- ... He's now 14 years old. He is m- a dick. He's got a lot of health issues, but I won't let him die.

Joe Rogan 57:42 Mm-hmm.

Kat Timpf 57:42 Like, I won't let him die 'cause he's like my best friend, blah, blah, blah.

Joe Rogan 57:45 Right.

Kat Timpf 57:45 But I c- we can't find anyone to watch him. We can't find ... We can't board him at the vet over Christmas, so since I met my husband going on six years now, I've made him drive me and the cat home to my father's house.

Joe Rogan 57:58 Where is your father's house?

Kat Timpf 57:59 Detroit area. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:00 Oh my God. That's like 18 hours.

Kat Timpf 58:02 With, with the cat.

Joe Rogan 58:03 How far is it in the car?

Kat Timpf 58:03 It's like, it's like 12 hours-

Joe Rogan 58:05 Oh my God.

Kat Timpf 58:05 ... with the cat. So it's like you drive all that time-

Joe Rogan 58:08 (sings) Drive.

Kat Timpf 58:09 ... and when you get there ... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:11 (sings) Drive.

Kat Timpf 58:11 And then when you get there, you're in Detroit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:13 Oh my God.

Kat Timpf 58:14 So a lot of people are like, "He's the l- he's a lucky guy," which ... And it's like, no, he's not. He's, he's-

Joe Rogan 58:20 Well-

Kat Timpf 58:20 ... he's a saint.

Joe Rogan 58:21 It all works out.

Kat Timpf 58:22 You know? But this-

Joe Rogan 58:23 I'm sure he's happy.

Kat Timpf 58:24 He is happy. He said-

Joe Rogan 58:25 Yeah. It's fine.

Kat Timpf 58:25 He said-

Joe Rogan 58:26 It's like, it's not that big a deal you're in a car for 18 hours. Just get zen about it.

Kat Timpf 58:29 (laughs) For a cat. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:32 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 58:32 That's not even a nice cat. Like, he bites.

Joe Rogan 58:35 Oh, that's a problem.

Kat Timpf 58:36 He n- needs daily medication.

Joe Rogan 58:38 Can you, like, hire a friend to stay at your place?

Kat Timpf 58:40 Ugh. This, that, ugh ... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:43 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 58:46 Sorry. You did just make a very reasonable suggestion-

Joe Rogan 58:49 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 58:51 ... for a norma-

Joe Rogan 58:51 Like if he knows somebody who, like, needs money.

Kat Timpf 58:53 ... for a normal cat, for a normal cat, but this cat will, like ... He is feral.

Joe Rogan 58:57 Oh.

Kat Timpf 58:57 So f- uh-

Joe Rogan 58:58 Was he an actual feral cat?

Kat Timpf 58:59 Yeah. So I was da- ... I was dating my college boyfriend living out in LA, and I was like ... I moved in with him nonconsensually. That's a whole nother story. I, I got into Columbia, couldn't afford it, so I decided to stay in LA and keep interning, waiting tables, doing comedy. And we were fighting a lot 'cause we shouldn't have been together. (laughs) So he got me ... He's g- a great friend of mine now actually, but he brought me this cat as like a Band-Aid on the relationship-

Joe Rogan 59:19 Oh.

Kat Timpf 59:19 ... that he just found in North Hollywood basically.

Joe Rogan 59:21 Oh, wow.

Kat Timpf 59:22 That was, like, dying and sick, and I've ... this has been, like, my-

Joe Rogan 59:26 Feral cats are weird.

Kat Timpf 59:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:27 They never really get unferal.

Kat Timpf 59:29 No, they don't.

Joe Rogan 59:30 Feral dogs, feral dogs can eventually become dogs again. I've seen it happen. They, they usually have, like, a fear of people, but they eventually calm down like people that have gotten, like, stray dogs off the ... I had a stray dog off the street.

Kat Timpf 59:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:40 And I had a stray cat, and that stray cat, I was the only one that could pick that motherfucker up.

Kat Timpf 59:45 Same. Yep.

Joe Rogan 59:46 I was the only one who could pet him. Everybody else would ... He would come ... You'd come near him. He'd hiss at you and take a swing-

Kat Timpf 59:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:51 ... at you and run away.

Kat Timpf 59:52 Yep. So you need profe- ... I ... When I ... When my husband and I went on our honeymoon, we had a v- ... We ... I hired a vet to stay at the house. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:57 Oh, that's hilarious.

Kat Timpf 59:58 And my sister. I had her stay there too 'cause he likes my sister. But he, he likes ... He finally likes my husband now, and it took, what, like five years.

Joe Rogan 1:00:06 That's crazy.

Kat Timpf 1:00:06 But, like, he's like, "I'm driving." He's like, "Every year it's like I'm driving." A- uh, 'cause every year, I'm like, "This will be the last year."

Joe Rogan 1:00:12 Probably.

Kat Timpf 1:00:13 And ... Yeah, prob- because-

Joe Rogan 1:00:14 Cats live to, like, 18 years old though, all the time.

Kat Timpf 1:00:15 But this cat has had serious health problems for four years requiring multiple daily medications that I-

Joe Rogan 1:00:22 Oh my God.

Kat Timpf 1:00:23 ... have to administer 'cause not just anybody can come stay with a cat because they have to administer the medication-

Joe Rogan 1:00:28 Right.

Kat Timpf 1:00:28 ... which is a hazardous activity for the average person.

Joe Rogan 1:00:31 Oh, Jesus Christ.

Kat Timpf 1:00:31 'Cause you have to do-

Joe Rogan 1:00:32 So-

Kat Timpf 1:00:32 ... the syringe in the mouth.

Joe Rogan 1:00:33 Oh, fuck.

Kat Timpf 1:00:34 So I hold him. He'll let me do it.

Joe Rogan 1:00:35 Oh my God.

Kat Timpf 1:00:35 But other people-

Joe Rogan 1:00:36 That's so crazy.

Kat Timpf 1:00:37 ... it's ... I won't l- ... As I said, I won't let him ... Like, I won't l-

Joe Rogan 1:00:39 Well, why don't you just let him go? He's probably miserable.

Kat Timpf 1:00:41 Because he's stable on the medication. He's happy to see me when I'm home, like he misses me, so, like he's-

Joe Rogan 1:00:47 Okay, okay.

Kat Timpf 1:00:47 He's-

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 I get it. I get it.

Kat Timpf 1:00:49 Wh- Now talk to me a bit ... The thing is, if I'm being honest with myself, (laughs) even if that were the answer, I might (laughs) still have a hard time.

Joe Rogan 1:00:55 Yeah, it's hard. It's, like, pe-

Kat Timpf 1:00:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:57 Losing a pet is very hard. You, you're so connected to them. They're like your-

Kat Timpf 1:01:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:01 ... your baby forever.

Kat Timpf 1:01:02 Well, I went through everything.

Joe Rogan 1:01:02 Like Marshall's seven, but he's my baby.

Kat Timpf 1:01:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:05 He's a baby boy.

Kat Timpf 1:01:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:07 And he'll always be a baby boy.

Kat Timpf 1:01:08 When I ... Well, I mean, this ... I, I was ... When I got this cat, I was a cashier at Boston Market.

Joe Rogan 1:01:12 Mm.

Kat Timpf 1:01:13 My life has changed.

Joe Rogan 1:01:14 Yeah, this cat's been with you the whole ride.

Kat Timpf 1:01:16 For everything.

Joe Rogan 1:01:17 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 1:01:17 For everything.

Joe Rogan 1:01:18 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 1:01:19 So-

Joe Rogan 1:01:19 I get it. I get it.

Kat Timpf 1:01:21 And he sucks. Like, I- I objectively, like- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:24 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 1:01:24 ... nobody's like, "He's here!" You know?

Joe Rogan 1:01:26 Have you seen that Chimp Crazy thing on Netflix yet?

Kat Timpf 1:01:28 No. Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:29 Okay. It's about that lady that, like, kept a chimp and the chimp ripped apart her friend.

Kat Timpf 1:01:33 (gasps)

Joe Rogan 1:01:34 You know, you know that story?

Kat Timpf 1:01:35 No.

Joe Rogan 1:01:36 I've heard it's by the same people that did, uh, Tiger King.

Narrator 1:01:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:39 Right? I've heard it's fucking insane. They say it's way better than Tiger King. They say it's nuts.

Kat Timpf 1:01:43 Okay, I should watch this.

Joe Rogan 1:01:44 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 1:01:44 I was really into, like, Jane Goodall as a child.

Joe Rogan 1:01:47 I love Jane Goodall. Jane Goodall's odd, though.

Kat Timpf 1:01:49 Oh, of course.

Joe Rogan 1:01:49 You know, Jane Goodall believes... She li- she believes in Bigfoot.

Kat Timpf 1:01:53 She was...

Joe Rogan 1:01:53 (laughs)

Kat Timpf 1:01:53 I thought it was so cool when I was little, how she was like, "You know what? I don't wanna be part of your society."

Joe Rogan 1:01:59 Right. "I'm gonna go live with the chimpanzees."

Kat Timpf 1:02:00 "Oh, I'm gonna go live among the chimpanzees."

Joe Rogan 1:02:01 Yeah.

Kat Timpf 1:02:01 I was like, "You can do that?"

Joe Rogan 1:02:04 Yeah. Hey, Chimp Crazy. (laughs)

Kat Timpf 1:02:05 Okay, so this, this lady-

Joe Rogan 1:02:07 This lady, uh, like... It's, it's... Apparently, we can't really... Can we play the trailer, or we'll get in trouble?

Narrator 1:02:12 I mean, we can watch it, but I have to cut it out.

Joe Rogan 1:02:14 Okay.

Kat Timpf 1:02:15 So, that-

Joe Rogan 1:02:15 So-

Kat Timpf 1:02:15 ... is the as- the chimp that-

Joe Rogan 1:02:17 Well, there was... The thing about chimps is, when they're little, you can kinda tell them what to do, 'cause they're little. They're babies. They listen to you. But then,