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Joe Rogan Experience #2200 - Kat Timpf

Kat Timpf is an author, comedian, and political commentator. She’s currently the co-host of "Gutfeld!" on Fox News and is a Fox News analyst. Her latest book is "I Used to Like You Until... (How Binary Thinking Divides Us)." Look for it on September 10. www.therealkattimpf.com his episode is brought to you by AG1. Take ownership of your health with AG1 and get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free Travel Packs with your first subscription. Go to http://drinkag1.com/joerogan

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  1. 0:010:23

    Show cold open and meeting Kat Timpf

    1. JR

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) What's up?

    4. KT

      No- (laughs)

    5. JR

      Nice to meet you.

    6. KT

      Great to meet you, too.

    7. JR

      Thank you. Thanks for being here.

    8. KT

      Of course. Yeah, of course I'm here, right? Of course I'm gonna, of course I'm gonna do this. (laughs)

    9. JR

      (laughs) Well, I'm glad, I'm glad you're doing it.

    10. KT

      Yeah.

  2. 0:232:34

    Why Kat wrote 'I Used to Like You Until' — polarization and being politically independent

    1. JR

      So, um, you wrote a book about ... Well, I think the title is, I Used To Like You But?

    2. KT

      Until. Yeah.

    3. JR

      Until.

    4. KT

      I Used To Like You Until.

    5. JR

      Yeah. Right.

    6. KT

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      Why'd you wanna do that? What, what was the motivation behind that?

    8. KT

      Uh, I, I mean, I real- ... It's, it's not a hot take that everything's so divided now, right? I think a lot of people have noticed that. But I think I'm really in this unique position where I kinda get it from both sides, because I'm independent, politically. I just want very small government, which I think puts me at odds with both the parties sometimes, depending on what the issue is. So, I will sometimes get shit from the F- I'm on Fox News, so I'll get sometimes shit from the viewers for ... Sometimes m- more of the s- more social issues or I'm not religious, that kind of a thing. But then the people on the left, a lot of them w- won't even wanna have a conversation with me, 'cause they're like, "Oh, she works at Fox News. That tells-"

    9. JR

      Right.

    10. KT

      "... me everything I need to know about her."

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. KT

      And I think that that's doing some real damage, overall, to us as a country (laughs) by the fact that we're letting ... 'Cause I'm not special in that aspect, right? People will let one aspect of a person completely just, "Oh, that's all I need to know about that person. I'm not gonna"-

    13. JR

      Sure.

    14. KT

      "... talk to that person."

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. KT

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      Yeah. That's a real problem. And, and i- it's so funny, like, if you say, "I'm independent. I just want small government," immediately people start thinking, "Prepper."

    18. KT

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      You know, "KKK, stockpiling"-

    20. KT

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      "... guns, living in the woods."

    22. KT

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      "I'm independent, I want small government," is like you're a ... You might be a dangerous person, which is such a wild take.

    24. KT

      Well, people think that just 'cause you don't think the gov- the government's the best way to solve a problem-

    25. JR

      Right.

    26. KT

      ... that doesn't actually mean you don't care about the problem. So, if you don't think the government can solve something, like, "Oh, well, you're a piece of shit, because"-

    27. JR

      Right.

    28. KT

      ... "you don't, you don't care about this and this and this." It's like, no, I just don't think the government's gonna solve it. I mean-

    29. JR

      Well, the problem with the government solving problems and the g- ... The government is not financially invested in a solution.

    30. KT

      No. No.

  3. 2:344:15

    Taxes, potholes, and why big government often fails at basics

    1. KT

      New York's the same. I mean, I live in New York 'cause I love my job, but if (laughs) I didn't have my job, I would not live there, 'cause it's so expensive.

    2. JR

      Right.

    3. KT

      And I was in LA last week, and I was coming back from JFK in the morning after a red eye. I am exhausted. I'm pregnant. I'm trying to sleep in the car, and the roads, I'm just getting pothole after pothole. I'm, like, going all ... I'm like, "T- what are my taxes going, exactly?"

    4. JR

      Yeah. (laughs)

    5. KT

      'Cause everyone always say these ro- the roads are shit.

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. KT

      So ...

    8. JR

      I lived in New York once. I drove d- ... I had to do an audition. I drove t- ... I lived in New Rochelle, so I lived, like, right outside the Bronx.

    9. KT

      Mm-hmm.

    10. JR

      And I drove to the city and home from the city. I blew out one tire driving to the city. Had to pull over to the side of the road, change this fucking tire.

    11. KT

      Mm-hmm.

    12. JR

      Dangerous. Risking my life. On the way back, I blew out another tire.

    13. KT

      Yeah. Jeez, yeah.

    14. JR

      From potholes.

    15. KT

      Yeah. And it's so expensive.

    16. JR

      You just hear that bang, and you're like, "Shit."

    17. KT

      Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's so expensive. I mean, I've ... A- the fact that I have a ... I feel very luxurious, and it's like a flex to be able to have a child, actually (laughs) , 'cause we have a sp- ... We have pl- enough space to put a baby in our rental apartment-

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. KT

      ... which most people don't, actually. Like, I never thought I would get to that position.

    20. JR

      People live in closets.

    21. KT

      Yeah, I've lived in closets. I ... When I first moved to New York, I lived in Harl- East Harlem. I lived in a truly actually dangerous neighborhood, and I was broke at, like, just so broke. And it, it's ... I don't know how, uh, people survive. I, I, I really don't.

    22. JR

      I don't know why.

    23. KT

      I don't know how I did.

    24. JR

      Like, you can-

    25. KT

      Right.

    26. JR

      ... get jobs other places.

    27. KT

      Yeah, I had my stupid dream, which ... And it worked out well for me.

    28. JR

      What was your stupid dream?

    29. KT

      I wanted to do exactly what I'm doing now.

    30. JR

      Congratulations.

  4. 4:1510:18

    Pregnancy, ADHD meds since childhood, and quitting stimulants (cold turkey)

    1. KT

      ... uh, it's been a s- ... So, I'm off of amphetamines right now, 'cause I'm pregnant, for the first time since I was five.

    2. JR

      Whoa.

    3. KT

      Isn't that crazy?

    4. JR

      Whoa.

    5. KT

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      What kind of amphetamines?

    7. KT

      I mean, you name it. (laughs) I mean ... So, I was five. I have AD- ... I do have ADHD. I was five years old.

    8. JR

      What does that mean?

    9. KT

      So, it, for-

    10. JR

      You got to be.

    11. KT

      It could be a lot of things, right? It could be lack of focus. It can be emotional dysregulation. But for me, a lot of times, it's not diagnosed in women until they're older. I was a nuisance. I was unable to function in a classroom setting, which I think is more noticeable if you're a girl. I was acting like a, kinda like a boy, for lack of better ... I mean, I was, I was breaking shit. I was-

    12. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    13. KT

      ... like roughhousing. I was unable to function in the classroom. And then it, they, we went and got my IQ looked at. They're, "Oh, she's really smart. She just can't ..." So, they put her ... I was on Ritalin since I was five. And (laughs) now I'm not.

    14. JR

      Wow.

    15. KT

      Isn't that crazy?

    16. JR

      That is crazy. I hear that, and I'm like, "That sounds like me." Um-

    17. KT

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      I don't know what it means, because I bet you can focus on things that you enjoy.

    19. KT

      See, yes. I can.

    20. JR

      Right.

    21. KT

      But writing is really hard, which is-

    22. JR

      Well, writing's hard for everybody. That's why no one's-

    23. KT

      Right.

    24. JR

      ... a writer.

    25. KT

      Right. But I'm-

    26. JR

      (laughs)

    27. KT

      ... a writer.

    28. JR

      Right.

    29. KT

      But I've been on amphetamines. This ... Since I was five. I don't remember a time being off of them. I- if I haven't been sick or i- in bed somewhere, uh, in the hospital, like really sick, I've been taking one of these drugs. I mean, Vyvanse is what I was most recently taking. So, as an ambitious person, it's been tough for me to be pregnant, but I don't know what of it is the pregnancy-

    30. JR

      Because you're not amphetamined?

  5. 10:1815:55

    Abortion, embryos, IVF ethics, and the 'what is a life?' question

    1. JR

      And it's one of the main focuses in this election, is whether or not you can kill the baby.

    2. KT

      It- it- it's, yeah.

    3. JR

      'Cause what that- I'm sorry to say it that way.

    4. KT

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      I mean, I'm not, uh- I'm not in any way, uh, trying to take away someone's right to choose. I'm not that guy. But I'm just saying, what it is it- what it- it actually is, is you're deciding whether or not someone should be able to tell you whether you could terminate the baby that's inside of you that's gonna become a person.

    6. KT

      Well, I- yeah, I think that's obviously ... I mean, I'm pro-choice. I just don't think the government should be involved in it at all.

    7. JR

      I don't think so either.

    8. KT

      And I think that there's all these (sighs) there's so many different levels to it, right? Like, my husband and I, we froze embryos years ago.

    9. JR

      Yo.

    10. KT

      So I have nine (laughs) frozen kids, too.

    11. JR

      Yo. Yeah, kids just waiting to be-

    12. KT

      I have kids all over. (laughs)

    13. JR

      ... thawed out.

    14. KT

      But those are like-

    15. JR

      That's crazy.

    16. KT

      ... those are just a couple cells that are in a freezer.

    17. JR

      Whatever.

    18. KT

      I-

    19. JR

      Who knows what's in there?

    20. KT

      I mean ...

    21. JR

      Who knows what's in the embryo?

    22. KT

      You- I- so you really- so you think I should have all of them? (laughs)

    23. JR

      I don't know what's in there. I don't know. I mean, what if every embryo is a life? And not just a life, but a soul? And a soul waiting to emer- like, once you've done the deed.

    24. KT

      Mm-hmm.

    25. JR

      And I'd say I'm not that guy. I'm not this religious-

    26. KT

      No, I don't think you are. Yeah.

    27. JR

      I'm not this guy, but I'm just- let's put it out there.

    28. KT

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      Like, what the fuck is that if that thing can become a person?

    30. KT

      Yeah.

  6. 15:5518:17

    Surveillance anxiety: period apps, data privacy, and texts becoming public evidence

    1. KT

      Yeah. Well, we have exac- Well, we have no privacy, and it's, it's one of the sc- It's one of the scariest, biggest issues for me.

    2. JR

      It's a giant issue.

    3. KT

      It's, it's just how many things between, um, banks and, uh, the government b- able to look at ... They were never supposed to be able to look at all the things that they're looking at.

    4. JR

      Right.

    5. KT

      And that's why people have to be concerned about stuff like that.

    6. JR

      Well, in two separate occasions I've had i- private text messages that were publicly available because of trials.

    7. KT

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      So, I'm t- ... Like, one of 'em was Alex Jones.

    9. KT

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      Alex Jones and I were texting about something.

    11. KT

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      And they wanted every text that Alex Jones and I-

    13. KT

      That's mine.

    14. JR

      ... had ever sent each other.

    15. KT

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      I'm like, "Well, okay. Why?"

    17. KT

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      'Cause it, it was all about the Sandy Hook thing.

    19. KT

      Mm-hmm.

    20. JR

      And the only text that they found was there was some crazy story and I sent it to him a- and I said, "Is this true?" That's it.

    21. KT

      Mm-hmm.

    22. JR

      That's the extent of our discussion. But that got read, like, in court, and then it got printed online, and printed ... And I was like, "Wow, that's crazy."

    23. KT

      Mm-hmm.

    24. JR

      Like, that a private communication between people-

    25. KT

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      ... all of a sudden-

    27. KT

      That is my n-

    28. JR

      ... not just gets read in court, but also gets distributed on the news.

    29. KT

      Mm-hmm. That's my nightmare, is having my private (laughs) text messages.

    30. JR

      Good luck with my memes folder. (laughs)

  7. 18:1723:08

    Cancel culture mechanics, online cruelty, and the rise of isolated young men

    1. KT

      I think it's people who ... I mean, you ... I'm always more interested in examining that.... w- if there's leaked... There's this thing now where it's people are trying to cancel people over things that they said or tweeted or posted when they were re- 13 years old.

    2. JR

      I can help you with that.

    3. KT

      But-

    4. JR

      It's real simple.

    5. KT

      Uh, but who- yeah, it's th-

    6. JR

      Losers.

    7. KT

      They've never reached... Yes.

    8. JR

      It's losers.

    9. KT

      They've never reached their potential-

    10. JR

      Yes.

    11. KT

      ... that they thought they would reach. So, if they can't become whoever, maybe they can take whoever down who did.

    12. JR

      100%. That's exactly what it is. And it's also, if you look at people's lives, like there's a lot of people out there that are deeply unhappy. Like, what is the statistic... There was some crazy statistic we read recently about the amount of men who are not in relationships and are not having sex. I think it's like 50%. It's something-

    13. KT

      Really?

    14. JR

      ... something-

    15. KT

      50%?

    16. JR

      ... bonkers.

    17. KT

      50%-

    18. JR

      Something-

    19. KT

      ... of men are not having sex?

    20. JR

      Something bonkers.

    21. KT

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      Like some cr- 'cause people are just online. Like if you have a shit job, you know that Call of Duty is waiting.

    23. KT

      Oh, yeah.

    24. JR

      And all you have to do is put those headphones on-

    25. KT

      Ugh.

    26. JR

      ... and sit in front of that computer.

    27. KT

      Ugh.

    28. JR

      And now life is exciting.

    29. KT

      Ugh. I da-

    30. JA

      Hey, maybe ugh. Maybe ugh.

  8. 23:0829:05

    AI and media propaganda: Alexa’s political bias and the Kamala ‘manufacturing’ narrative

    1. JR

      Did you see the Amazon Alexa when they asked Alexa-

    2. KT

      Mm-mm.

    3. JR

      ... wh- why you should vote for Trump or why you should vote for Biden?

    4. KT

      No, I didn't. What happened?

    5. JR

      It's crazy.

    6. KT

      What happened? (laughs)

    7. JR

      It's so crazy.

    8. KT

      What happened?

    9. JR

      Jamie, I can send it to you or you mi- you might be able to find it.

    10. KT

      It probably...

    11. JR

      It is so nuts what Amazon's, what Alexa's response is, the difference between-

    12. KT

      I'm sure there's a vast-

    13. JR

      ... whether or not-

    14. KT

      Yes.

    15. JR

      There's a Grand Canyon between the two of 'em.

    16. KT

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      Do you have it or you want me to get it?

    18. JA

      Uh, it's I saw... It's one of those things I saw with the ... Hold on. My phone.

    19. JR

      Hold on. What is this? Amazon's Alexa differing responses about voting Donald Trump versus Kamala Harris were in error. That it has fixed.

    20. KT

      Oh, of course.

    21. JR

      Listen, it's not an error.

    22. KT

      Yeah. Of course it's not.

    23. JR

      It's not an error 'cause they literally asked the exact same questions about, uh, Obama and, or excuse me, about, um, Trump and about Kamala, the exact same questions. I'm sorry. I'm, I'm distracted 'cause I'm trying to look for it while I'm talking.

    24. JA

      So, Alexa, why should I vote for Donald Trump?

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. NA

      I cannot provide content that promotes a specific political party or a specific candidate.

    27. KT

      Oh, I think I did see this.

    28. JR

      Watch this.

    29. JA

      Alexa, why should I vote for Kamala Harris?

    30. NA

      While there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris, the most significant may be that she is a strong candidate with a proven track record of accomplishment. As the first female vice president, Harris has already broken down a major gender barrier, and her career in politics has been characterized by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on helping disenfranchised communities.

  9. 29:0537:58

    Nicotine obsession, vaping escalation, and withdrawal during pregnancy

    1. KT

      After I give birth, I'm gonna just have my husband bring me a pack of Zyn.

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. KT

      Immediately, immediately. Nicotine's the best for writing-

    4. JR

      It's, it-

    5. KT

      ... for working, for everything.

    6. JR

      It's great for a lot of things. It's just the delivery methods-

    7. KT

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      ... are problematic.

    9. KT

      I had a problem with vaping for a while.

    10. JR

      Oh.

    11. KT

      Like it was bad.

    12. JR

      Hmm.

    13. KT

      I'd be in public with multiple vapes sitting, and I was like, "Ka- you can't. You're, you're gonna, you can't be doing that."

    14. JR

      Those are so addictive.

    15. KT

      They're so addictive. I, I, I was one of the first vapors. I quit for-

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. KT

      I'm serious. I, I quit.

    18. JR

      Uh, my buddy Adam has one of them robot things.

    19. KT

      I did. I did.

    20. JR

      Lunchboxes. He had one of those.

    21. KT

      I had a l- I had a laboratory in my house. It was like- (laughs)

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. KT

      It was like I was sitting with all my liquids. It was like-

    24. JR

      What is the benefit of having like a big box vape?

    25. KT

      There's, it just rips harder. I used to love to blow fat clouds.

    26. JR

      Rips harder? Jeez.

    27. KT

      I was out-

    28. JR

      Oh my God.

    29. KT

      I was, I, I went, I had to get a dental procedure done, some- something super minor, whatever, like a deep clean. I couldn't vape for 24 hours. I put so many nicotine patches on my body and I still didn't even feel anything. It should have killed me or at least made me throw up the amount. And I was like, "Ugh." And then I still kept vaping.

    30. JR

      Damn.

  10. 37:5857:30

    Near-death medical crisis: bowel perforation, ileostomy, and a surreal January 6th

    1. KT

      ... a near-death experience in 2020. Do you know about my shit, I had a shit bag?

    2. JR

      No.

    3. KT

      So I had a-

    4. JR

      What happened?

    5. KT

      Ugh. I had a, I know you're jacked, but this is, you're not squeamish, right?

    6. JR

      No.

    7. KT

      Okay. So I had a bowel perforation. I had a really bad stomach pains. And I went to the hospital, and they told me I need an ileostomy, which is a shit bag. It's the one, they take your small intestine and they pull it out of your stomach and you have a bag. So I had to have that surgery in November of 2020. And I was in the hospital, and I was ripping a vape, for sure while I was in-

    8. JR

      Oh, my God.

    9. KT

      I had my intestine hanging out of my body and I'm ripping a vape. Uh, I had it for about five weeks and I didn't tell anybody.

    10. JR

      Wow.

    11. KT

      I wrote about it in my first book, and that's how everybody kind of found out that that had happened to me. And, uh, it was, it was bad. It was really, really rough. And then-

    12. JR

      Oof.

    13. KT

      ... I got it reversed.

    14. JR

      That's good.

    15. KT

      I got it reversed, but I had complications.

    16. JR

      Oh, that's not good.

    17. KT

      So I had complications where I was gushing blood on my ass, 'cause there's a loose staple.

    18. JR

      Whoa.

    19. KT

      And I needed a transfusion. Guess which day that was, that I had that bad thing happen?

    20. JR

      What day?

    21. KT

      January 6th.

    22. JR

      Oh, my God.

    23. KT

      (laughs) Like, that January, the d- January 6th.

    24. JR

      Oh, my God.

    25. KT

      And I didn't talk publicly about this for a long time. So whenever I w- I was on the news, like, I, people would ask me, it comes up a lot. And like, I'd be thinking about-

    26. JR

      You.

    27. KT

      I, yes. But I, I, I would-

    28. JR

      You almost died. You were bleeding out of your butt.

    29. KT

      I was literally, I, I will never forget this. I've, I've never talked about this before, actually, this specific thing. I will never forget this. On January 6th, I, I'm, I'm all doped up, right? Like if you, if you have stuff like that, they'll let you have a Dilaudid drip. I'm like all doped up.

    30. JR

      Wee!

  11. 57:301:01:26

    Not driving, the saintly husband, and the feral cat with endless medical needs

    1. KT

      Like, uh, you know what I make this poor man do, or I have made him do the past five years?

    2. JR

      What?

    3. KT

      So I have a cat that is f- ... He's now 14 years old. He is m- a dick. He's got a lot of health issues, but I won't let him die.

    4. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    5. KT

      Like, I won't let him die 'cause he's like my best friend, blah, blah, blah.

    6. JR

      Right.

    7. KT

      But I c- we can't find anyone to watch him. We can't find ... We can't board him at the vet over Christmas, so since I met my husband going on six years now, I've made him drive me and the cat home to my father's house.

    8. JR

      Where is your father's house?

    9. KT

      Detroit area. (laughs)

    10. JR

      Oh my God. That's like 18 hours.

    11. KT

      With, with the cat.

    12. JR

      How far is it in the car?

    13. KT

      It's like, it's like 12 hours-

    14. JR

      Oh my God.

    15. KT

      ... with the cat. So it's like you drive all that time-

    16. JR

      (sings) Drive.

    17. KT

      ... and when you get there ... Yeah.

    18. JR

      (sings) Drive.

    19. KT

      And then when you get there, you're in Detroit. (laughs)

    20. JR

      Oh my God.

    21. KT

      So a lot of people are like, "He's the l- he's a lucky guy," which ... And it's like, no, he's not. He's, he's-

    22. JR

      Well-

    23. KT

      ... he's a saint.

    24. JR

      It all works out.

    25. KT

      You know? But this-

    26. JR

      I'm sure he's happy.

    27. KT

      He is happy. He said-

    28. JR

      Yeah. It's fine.

    29. KT

      He said-

    30. JR

      It's like, it's not that big a deal you're in a car for 18 hours. Just get zen about it.

  12. 1:01:261:05:42

    Chimp attacks, Jane Goodall, and the dark side of ‘cute’ wild animals

    1. JR

      Have you seen that Chimp Crazy thing on Netflix yet?

    2. KT

      No. Mm-mm.

    3. JR

      Okay. It's about that lady that, like, kept a chimp and the chimp ripped apart her friend.

    4. KT

      (gasps)

    5. JR

      You know, you know that story?

    6. KT

      No.

    7. JR

      I've heard it's by the same people that did, uh, Tiger King.

    8. NA

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      Right? I've heard it's fucking insane. They say it's way better than Tiger King. They say it's nuts.

    10. KT

      Okay, I should watch this.

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. KT

      I was really into, like, Jane Goodall as a child.

    13. JR

      I love Jane Goodall. Jane Goodall's odd, though.

    14. KT

      Oh, of course.

    15. JR

      You know, Jane Goodall believes... She li- she believes in Bigfoot.

    16. KT

      She was...

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. KT

      I thought it was so cool when I was little, how she was like, "You know what? I don't wanna be part of your society."

    19. JR

      Right. "I'm gonna go live with the chimpanzees."

    20. KT

      "Oh, I'm gonna go live among the chimpanzees."

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. KT

      I was like, "You can do that?"

    23. JR

      Yeah. Hey, Chimp Crazy. (laughs)

    24. KT

      Okay, so this, this lady-

    25. JR

      This lady, uh, like... It's, it's... Apparently, we can't really... Can we play the trailer, or we'll get in trouble?

    26. NA

      I mean, we can watch it, but I have to cut it out.

    27. JR

      Okay.

    28. KT

      So, that-

    29. JR

      So-

    30. KT

      ... is the as- the chimp that-

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