Joe Rogan Experience #2202 - Tom Segura

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Yeah, I- I- I've watched so many people get their legs broken.

   4. TSTom Segura0:16

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      And I, I see it in, like, jujitsu videos all the time, where someone's, like, going for a heel hook-

   6. TSTom Segura0:20

      Uh-huh.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      ... and then you hear this crack, and then the guy screams in agony. And then everybody's like, "Ugh."

   8. TSTom Segura0:26

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:27

      That's horrible.

   10. TSTom Segura0:27

       Yeah. And- And the arm ... There's a million arm wrestling videos.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Oh. I saw a guy and a girl arm wrestling, and the guy broke the girl's arm. I'm like, "What the fuck, man?"

   12. TSTom Segura0:35

       Oh, fuck. I was just like, "How does that ..." 'Cause I- I don't wanna do it ever again, really.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Arm wrestling?

   14. TSTom Segura0:40

       No.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       No.

   16. TSTom Segura0:40

       I think it's stupid. But, like, for- for me to get involved in. (laughs) But, like, even when I'm just like, "Well, why is this happening?" And- And there was two, these two, uh, competitors, like pro-arm wrestlers, who were like, "Well, you never- you never wanna get away from your body."

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Mm.

   18. TSTom Segura0:56

       So they're like, "Arms break once they're out here."

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       Mm.

   20. TSTom Segura0:59

       So you always ... They're like, "Keep- keep your- keep your arm in tight."

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Mm.

   22. TSTom Segura1:04

       Like, arms don't break when you're here.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Right.

   24. TSTom Segura1:06

       But if- once you get extension, they're like, "That's when-"

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       It's the dumbest macho thing that we do.

   26. TSTom Segura1:11

       For sure.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       Like, guys aren't like, "You wanna arm wrestle, bro?"

   28. TSTom Segura1:13

       I did it with you once. I did it with you in Louisville. Do you remember?

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       (laughs) No.

   30. TSTom Segura1:15

       It was a horrifying experience. It was, um, it was after a sh- ... We did a show in Louisville at the, uh, club. I think it was tied to a old- like, a UFC.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. TSTom Segura15:00

      out strong.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Yeah.

   3. TSTom Segura15:00

      Um, 'cause I, I, you know, y- out of the gate, everybody can't help but get in their own way w- of who they are, right?

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      Right.

   5. TSTom Segura15:07

      And for him, it's like, "Okay, don't get fucking crazy." Like, I'm sure, you know, the, the thing is like-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      (growls)

   7. TSTom Segura15:13

      ... "Don't say wild shit. Don't-"

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      "Don't say people are eating cats." (laughs)

   9. TSTom Segura15:16

      "... saying cats and dogs." Um, and, you know, uh, "'They're fucking coming in here eating all our pets.'"

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       (gasps) (laughs)

   11. TSTom Segura15:23

       And, y- you know, you're just watching and you're like-

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:25

       Uh-huh.

   13. TSTom Segura15:25

       ... you're watching this thing and you're like, "What?"

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       (laughs)

   15. TSTom Segura15:27

       "And... (laughs) This is fucking insane." And then for her, it, they're just basically like, "Don't laugh like a stripper." Like, how you-

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       Right, right, right.

   17. TSTom Segura15:33

       Every time you come to a podium, you're like... (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       Well, that's their panic.

   19. TSTom Segura15:37

       It's like, calm down.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       It's a pa- it's, it's a move that, like, comics will do when their material's not that good. They laugh at it.

   21. TSTom Segura15:42

       They laugh through it.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       Yeah.

   23. TSTom Segura15:43

       Exactly.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       Yeah, yeah.

   25. TSTom Segura15:44

       But then you remember, you know, this is somebody, like, take away your, your politics or whatever you believe, this is a former prosecutor. It is a, it's a trainable person.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Yes.

   27. TSTom Segura15:53

       Right? If you're a, if you're a prosecutor, you can, you can get the information-

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       Yeah.

   29. TSTom Segura15:58

       ... and regurgitate it.

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       She's not dumb, by any stretch.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah, of course. You…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      you it's good that that's happening. (laughs)

   2. TSTom Segura30:01

      Yeah, of course. You fully justify it.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      Somebody had a great tweet about the eating pets thing.

   4. TSTom Segura30:05

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Here, let me... (laughs) ... it's one of those things where I just-

   6. TSTom Segura30:11

      Eating pets.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      ... I read it, and I'm just... I'm so happy that we, we live in a time of the internet. Because the internet is so fun, 'cause there's so many regular people out there in the world that are so fun.

   8. TSTom Segura30:22

      Yeah, they are.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:22

      So this dude's name is, uh, Nick Freitas, and, um, Green Beret, combat veteran. So, but look at his, uh, look at this tweet that I sent you, Jamie. (laughs) He fucking... (laughs) I can't believe this is a topic. "The left: 'No one is eating people's pets.' Which means we're one week away from 'Why do you care that people are eating pets?' Three weeks from 'Why eating pets is a good thing.'" (laughs) And four weeks from "'Refusing to eat pets is white supremacy." (laughs)

   10. TSTom Segura30:50

       No, he's got it. He, he fucking nailed it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       (laughs)

   12. TSTom Segura30:54

       He nailed it.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       (laughs) It's just like, we live in such a mad, mad world.

   14. TSTom Segura30:59

       Yeah. And if you... It's like, this is entertaining too-

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:03

       Uh-huh. Oh, it's so entertaining.

   16. TSTom Segura31:03

       ... to read this, but also, if you lose yourself in these, like, back and forths online, you lose your fucking mind.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       Oh, you lose your fucking mind.

   18. TSTom Segura31:11

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:11

       Yeah. And there's a lot of people losing their mind. It's just, I don't engage in it. I know you don't either. It's a bad way to communicate with people. It's a bad way.

   20. TSTom Segura31:19

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:19

       It's bad for your health. I really believe that. I think it's bad for your mental health.

   22. TSTom Segura31:22

       I 100% agree.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:24

       Yeah.

   24. TSTom Segura31:24

       I, I remember... I don't know if he still does this, but... And I've heard other people do this, but I remember when DeStefano told me that he was like, like a year or so ago, he's like, "It's fucking with my, like, happiness."

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:35

       Yeah.

   26. TSTom Segura31:35

       And then he gave somebody his login stuff. He's like-

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:40

       Mm-hmm.

   28. TSTom Segura31:40

       ... "I don't want it. You have it."

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:41

       Yeah.

   30. TSTom Segura31:42

       "I'll just send you things to post, but I'm never gonna... I don't, I don't even have my own login."
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. TSTom Segura45:00

      you know, we'll be fully electric by-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      Mm-hmm.

   3. TSTom Segura45:02

      ... 2035 or whatever, and I'm like, man, for me, I've just always been like, yeah, that, that would suck, just because I like (laughs) cars-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:10

      Yeah.

   5. TSTom Segura45:10

      ... that are gas powered. And, um, you know, I'm a, I guess I'm a dinosaur in that way. But-

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:16

      No, they're cool.

   7. TSTom Segura45:16

      They're cool, but what my friend was like, he was like, you know, he brought up that, that, um, that malfunction. He was like, "You know, I just keep thinking about it if we were all electric, that the government could also just go like, 'Doop.'" Like-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:31

      Oh, yeah.

   9. TSTom Segura45:32

      ... cars don't work today.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:33

       Well, there's cars today that have, um, OnStar on them.

   11. TSTom Segura45:36

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       That the police can shut your car off.

   13. TSTom Segura45:39

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       So if you're running a high-speed chase from the cops and you have some vehicle that has OnStar on it-

   15. TSTom Segura45:43

       They can just-

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       ... they just hit a button. Is that true? Make sure that's true. That might be theoretical. I think it's true, though. I think they could just shut your car off.

   17. TSTom Segura45:51

       But that's pretty, that's pretty scary.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       So like if somebody, and, but they market it to you like, "Hey, look, if someone steals your Corvette, Tom-"

   19. TSTom Segura45:55

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       "... you can just call up."

   21. TSTom Segura45:56

       I will have it-

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       "... and they will have that car shut off."

   23. TSTom Segura45:58

       Yeah. Sure.

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       And that person's on the highway and it just pulls over for them.

   25. TSTom Segura46:00

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       Yeah.

   27. TSTom Segura46:01

       Scary.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       Yeah.

   29. TSTom Segura46:03

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       Well, you know the story about Michael Hastings, right?
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:58

   Well, I knew about…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      content, should result in increased water retention and consequent gains in body mass."

   2. TSTom Segura1:00:05

      Well, I knew about the water retention and that it was a, uh, verified to have, like, it's one of the supplements that you can count on for gains.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      Yes.

   4. TSTom Segura1:00:14

      Like, it's, it's-

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

      Yeah, it works.

   6. TSTom Segura1:00:15

      But I'd, I'd never heard about the, uh, brain aspect of it.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

      Yeah.

   8. TSTom Segura1:00:20

      Ever.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

      Yeah, that's, um, more recent, they've been talking about that. Um, you know, it's been used as a muscle supplement since, like, the '90s.

   10. TSTom Segura1:00:27

       That's interesting.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

       Or, or been popular since the '90s. Jamie, what does it say about, um, 'cause there was some sort of a study about, uh, creatine supplementation, um, to enhance performance with sleep deprivation.... because there was this study that was showing that, you know, your cognitive performance, when you just have, like, four or five hours' sleep drops off a cliff, you know? I notice it in a big-

   12. TSTom Segura1:00:51

       A thousand percent.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

       ... big way. I'm just, like, at 70% of, like, my normal. "A single high dose of creatine can temporarily improve cognitive performance during sleep deprivation. This is due to creatine's ability to prevent a drop in pH level, improve processing speed, increase intercellular energy consumption, and increase high extracellular creatine availability." Isn't that awesome?

   14. TSTom Segura1:01:13

       That is so fucking cool.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:15

       Yeah.

   16. TSTom Segura1:01:15

       I really had no clue about this.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:17

       Yeah, I take it every day.

   18. TSTom Segura1:01:18

       I had a really poor night's sleep, like, a month or so ago, and I was going into my writer's room-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

       Oof.

   20. TSTom Segura1:01:24

       ... of my show.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       Oof.

   22. TSTom Segura1:01:25

       And that's the w- t- like, to me, like, when you go, "What's the worst things about it when you have no, when you have bad sleep?" are, A, physically, like, your workouts suck. Like, it's r- it's really rough-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:36

       Yeah.

   24. TSTom Segura1:01:36

       ... when you have poor sleep. But mentally, to, you know, I, I hate doing a show-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:42

       Oh, yeah.

   26. TSTom Segura1:01:42

       ... on poor sleep. And to go into a writer's room where you're supposed to be, you know-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:47

       Fast creative.

   28. TSTom Segura1:01:47

       Sure, yeah, and, and yeah-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:48

       Yeah.

   30. TSTom Segura1:01:48

       ... we're, we're talking-

Episode duration: 2:32:23