The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #2205 - Legion of Skanks
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Sweaty arrival: getting lost, no car service, and Texas heat shock
- JRJoe Rogan
(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- DSDave Smith
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music plays) All right, well, boys, good to see you. What's happening?
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
What's up? What's up, Joe?
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, you have a little adventure coming over here.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
We did. We just stopped sweating.
- DSDave Smith
Got a little lost. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Did the Uber driver dropped off at the wrong spot?
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
This one might be on me.
- DSDave Smith
Nope, nope.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
About, about halfway- Uber dropped us off at the completely right spot-
- DSDave Smith
Yeah.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
... in his mind.
- DSDave Smith
And the, the amount that I cursed him because we thought it was the wrong spot. I mean, we spent about-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's on me. That's on me because I should've got you guys the car service. We have the car service that takes guys all the... I figured you guys were already here. You had transportation-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
What was funny was when we were at about, I don't know, three-quarters into our three-quarter-mile walk here.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
You sent somebody over to come get us, and he pulled up in a car. Uh, and he goes, he goes, "You guys for Joe, right?" And we said, "Yeah." And he goes, "Follow me," and then just drove away in the car.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DSDave Smith
No way.
- JRJoe Rogan
He didn't let us in.
- DSDave Smith
He didn't let us in.
- JRJoe Rogan
No way. You know what? You were too sweaty.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah, that's what it was.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- DSDave Smith
He had his shirt off still. You could see him glistening.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) His seat's too... He was like, "Fuck this."
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
My eyes were gone because my hair product was in my eyes.
- DSDave Smith
He's like, "Hey, are you guys here for, for Joe Rogan? He told me to bring you this heat lamp."
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, god. (laughs)
- 1:17 – 3:16
Texas winters, no snow infrastructure, and flying anxiety (de-icing & engine fears)
- JRJoe Rogan
But I was in Utah, where it was like 50 degrees, and then I came right here to L, to Austin, and it was like 98 when I got out of the car. I was like, "Yo, I forgot."
- DSDave Smith
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"I forgot about this."
- DSDave Smith
Yeah, summer, summer doesn't end in Texas.
- JRJoe Rogan
It lasts a long time, but it does get winter here.
- DSDave Smith
Eventually.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's hilarious-
- DSDave Smith
They shut it down.
- JRJoe Rogan
... when the, the Austin people don't know what the fuck to do when it snows out.
- DSDave Smith
(laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
There's no infrastructure at all.
- DSDave Smith
I got stuck in Houston for maybe four or five days because they had, I mean, I wanna say a light flurry, and there was a little bit of ice, but Texas doesn't have like, uh, you know, like trucks-
- JRJoe Rogan
No plows.
- DSDave Smith
No salt trucks, no nothing.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
No salt.
- JRJoe Rogan
When we had the big freeze the first year I moved here, they did nothing.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They did nothing. They just let it thaw.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
I, I, when my fl-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
I was the la- I was the one flight that was able to get out one time to go to, uh, Dallas for a gig. And they had like, it was three inches of snow, but the whole place shuts down. And the, thank God, because the car that picked me up to drive me to the hotel that night, if there was other cars on the road, dude, it would've been ping-ponging.
- DSDave Smith
Dude.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Every time he stopped, the car would like turn sideways complete-
- DSDave Smith
(laughs) Slowly.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
But he was just calm because there was nobody else on the road, so it didn't really matter.
- JRJoe Rogan
Tell me the sketchiest feeling is not when you're in like Edmonton or some shit, and they have to spray that stuff on the wings.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Oh, yeah, de-icer.
- JRJoe Rogan
The de-icer in the wings.
- DSDave Smith
Oh, yeah.
- 3:16 – 6:48
Miracle on the Hudson, hero arguments, and the drag queen storytime controversy
- DSDave Smith
... the miracle on the Hudson. It was a miracle that the guy was able to land the plane when the engines went out, right? The, the geese went-
- JRJoe Rogan
And that's because that guy was like a real serious pilot.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That guy really knew how to fucking fly a plane. Like, he was a real hero.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
I love the argument he's not a hero. I love the argument that he's not. It always makes me laugh. They're like, "He did his job." He goes, "Sure."
- DSDave Smith
Well, he's-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughs) But I mean, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Listen, if he was a trans woman-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
... it was survival on his own.
- JRJoe Rogan
If he was a-
- DSDave Smith
(laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
If he was a trans woman from a third world country, he'd be the greatest hero of all time.
- DSDave Smith
I remember when it landed, I was rooting for him to be drunk.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughs)
- DSDave Smith
Like, I just wanted him to come out and say, "I fucking did it."
- JRJoe Rogan
On coke.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
I also wish there was like, uh, like a, a drag queen that would do something heroic so everyone's gotta praise the things of like, you know, like Cunt Lips Thunder Tits.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DSDave Smith
(laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
They always got stupid names.
- JRJoe Rogan
How weird is it that, that it's an argument whether or not drag queens should be reading books to kids?
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
It's...
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DSDave Smith
What's the upside of that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, like why... Wh- whose idea was this?
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Yeah, because-
- JRJoe Rogan
Can we talk to the first person who came up with this idea? Like what, what is-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
You go, "Do you know what kids are lacking these days?" "The most aggressive gays yelling at them."
- DSDave Smith
(laughs)
- 6:48 – 10:39
Babysitter apps, face tattoos, and who you trust around your kids
- LGLuis J. Gomez
I was on one of those apps to hire a babysitter, uh, recently. And it's, it's a very weird... I'd never done it before. And it's almost like, it's almost like a dating app, like you're like swiping left and right, but it's on, for babysitters for your kids.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
See his pictures. (laughs)
- LGLuis J. Gomez
And I will say, and I'm on the legion of skanks, I'm a comedian, I hang out in a pretty seedy world, but it is amazing how judgmental you get when you're just judging a person off their face over whether they're gonna watch your kids.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
You're just like, nose ring, you're a freak. You'll never be, you'll never be more racist. (laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughs)
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Not racist. (laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Tattoos on the face is a no-go, okay?
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Yeah, but just-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not like being an MMA fighter. (laughs)
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Yeah, it's like, you might be cool, you might be a cool person, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like Sugar Sean O'Malley could pull it off, Post Malone could pull it off.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But not the fucking babysitter.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
I'm considering getting a tattoo on my face at Skankfest.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like how about if there was... That's a good idea.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
That's the one we said.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
How about if there was guys with tattoos on their faces that wanted to read stories to kids? Would that be cool? Who would be cool with that?
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Guys with tattoos... If it was Post Malone, you'd be like, "Of course, he's so cool. Let him read the stories to kids, that'd be really fun."
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
But wouldn't you be weirded out if your kids had like a face tattoo teacher at all?
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I'd be weirded out.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Uh...
- LGLuis J. Gomez
I would not, I would not like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Not that it... Listen, like Jelly Roll is the coolest motherfucker alive.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's got face tattoos. There's a lot of people that do them and wish they didn't do them, or do them and are happy with them and like them. It's cool.
- 10:39 – 12:33
Libertarians, grifts, and the Trump appearance at the Libertarian convention
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
There, there, I now, I now... Joe, uh, this is my new grift. I am now Mister Conservative.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
We got to get Trump elected.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
You've given up on this libertarian stuff?
- JRJoe Rogan
There's no money in it, I figured out.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
There's definitely no money in it, but that's why they let it exist.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
(laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Because there's no money.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, if there was another legitimate party that was actually challenging to the Democrats and the Republicans, they would attack it. They don't say a peep about the libertarians. Those are... In their eyes, the libertarians are just vote stealers from the Republicans.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Yeah, they were mad when Trump came this year. But aside from that, they don't really. They don't see us as a threat.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's a, they don't... No political party gets mad at the libertarians.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
No, but it was-
- JRJoe Rogan
They're fucking furious at the Republicans. The Republicans are furious at the Democrats. Nobody gives a fuck what the libertarians say.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Including me. I agree.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Dave speaking at the thing-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
... was the funniest when he goes, "Donald Trump's gonna come up here and we're gonna show him that we know how to act and behave."
- LGLuis J. Gomez
(laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
"And because we are the right party." And he went up there right away and they were like, "Fuck you, you fucking pussy."
- LGLuis J. Gomez
(laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
"Get out of here."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I knew, I literally-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
"You're a murderer and rapist."
- JRJoe Rogan
I got offstage and I passed by, uh, Angela McArdle, who's the chair of the, uh, Libertarian Party, and I walked right by her and I went, "0% chance they listen." (clears throat) And just went by her and go, "Now let's go watch the shit show, 'cause this is gonna be ridiculous." (laughs) So how bad- how much of a shit show was it? Oh, it was awful.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
... I mean, just the worst-
- JRJoe Rogan
I only watched, like, a little bit of it.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
So I went... I w- they kicked me out of backstage, uh, 'cause it's, like, a Secret Service, like, checkpoint thing or whatever, 'cause they're real on top of that. Not so big on people with rifles on buildings. But they got me out of there. And so I go out and I come back around in the main room, and I'm just... I walk into the middle of just all the people, like, "Boo! Aah!" And so... And, uh, one of 'em... At one point, Trump goes... He goes, "I fired Comey," and one of the libertarians goes, "'Cause he was, uh, 'cause he was onto you." And I just turned to him-
- JRJoe Rogan
Ew.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
... and I went, I went, "That's not even the right heckle."
- 12:33 – 15:41
Comey, the Steele dossier, and how power corrupts (plus: ‘I read’ as comedy armor)
- JRJoe Rogan
The Comey thing was... Wh- what were they... They're alleging, first of all, that the Clinton campaign was spying on the Trump campaign, right?
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Yeah. It was, it was after that. They... He was trying to blackmail him, and fucking Trump caught onto that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- LGLuis J. Gomez
So he fired him. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
For sure?
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Yeah. No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Are you... How do you know?
- LGLuis J. Gomez
So, okay. So if you... Oh, here we go, guys.
- JRJoe Rogan
Here we go. (laughs)
- LGLuis J. Gomez
All right. So you, you know how, like, uh-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Dave Chappelle.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Well, no.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
You know, we all heard about the Jets. Then he came in and he goes, "P. Diddy definitely fucked everybody and, and did this, and raped everyone." And then we're like, "Well, how do you know?" He's like, "Ugh, I read."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Not really. It doesn't really mean anything. You're always reading somebody else's numbers.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
You read that in a book?
- JRJoe Rogan
So what is-
- LGLuis J. Gomez
But that's what you can do in comedy, is that is enough to checkmate most comedians.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughing) Yeah.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
He goes, "I read." And you go, "He does read. All right."
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
You're not wrong.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, it's also... It's just a funny thing to say because-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... you could also be, like, admitting the ridiculousness of it yourself-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... while saying, "I read." You know? Because-
- LGLuis J. Gomez
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... it's kind of an admission. Like, I'm not there. I didn't go to the freak out.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
If anybody goes, "Who was there?" Yeah, I wonder if somebody came and goes, "I went to one of these parties and, man, P. Diddy was like, 'If you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go fuck Meek Mill in the butt.'" But, like, uh, that's never gonna happen. No one comes out and says that.
- 15:41 – 23:31
Scientology street tests, Going Clear, and why belief can ‘work’ even if it’s nonsense
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, he was, uh... Do you know that he's the most prolific writer in human history?
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Sci-fi wise, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
More fiction-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... than any other human being ever.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
More than Stephen King?
- JRJoe Rogan
More than anybody.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
In one Bible.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, more than anybo- And not a second draft amongst them. Everything he wrote was nonsense. (laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Everything he wrote was hot nonsense. If you read it, it's like these are the dumbest stories.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Well, do you remember the Dianetics commercials?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Do you remember the commercials with the-
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
... uh, the volcano, like, the lava was going off?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
And it just gave you, like, like, the most generalized things anyone feels. He goes, "Are you sometimes tired and sometimes awake?"
- LGLuis J. Gomez
You did it-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
But nothing was... It was just, like, vague. It was so, so vague.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
You did it before, right, Louis? The... When they had the test sometimes go down, people-
- JRJoe Rogan
In Times Square. In Times Square, I've done it.
- DSDave Smith
'Cause I... You just... It was just kinda cool. I was, like, a dumb kid. So they were like, "Hey, do you want us to test your stress levels?" I was like, "Boy, do I." (laughs)
- LGLuis J. Gomez
(laughs)
- DSDave Smith
And I went over and I held these dumb things, and they're like, "You're-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
The ones that go like that?
- DSDave Smith
Yeah. They're like, "You're stressed." And I was like, "I am, right?"
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughs)
- DSDave Smith
They're like, "Come on inside."
- 23:31 – 32:32
Illegal baby names, celebrity kids, Beetlejuice reviews, and petty theft confessions
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Do you think the pendulum's gonna swing back to, like ... There was a time-
- DSDave Smith
Naming kids Jesus?
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
No, but naming-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
No, but naming kids, uh, like, when ... There was no actual, like, lines drawn on naming-... wa- uh, years and years ago, as far as, like, race goes. So, my grandmother's boyfriend when she died, his full name was Jerome.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at this.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
There's old Tyro- like, white Tyrones.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Wait, dude, that-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
That just stopped one day and those became Black names.
- JRJoe Rogan
These are all-
- LGLuis J. Gomez
That's wild.
- JRJoe Rogan
... names that are-
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Illegal.
- JRJoe Rogan
... ruled illegal by courts within the US.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, so Bobby Green just got his name changed to King.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
He got his name legally-
- LGLuis J. Gomez
King Green.
- JRJoe Rogan
... changed to King Green.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Yeah, he's gonna have to take this to the Supreme Court. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe not because it said... Oh, go back to that, please.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah, well, it's all right here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, but the s- the states. But before that, it was, like, showing how many states. Does it say that?
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Why can't it be 10/69?
- JRJoe Rogan
So, so it's not... The, uh... So it was just, um, the way it was phrased in the, uh, earlier thing that you had. Okay, here it is. There's a handful of names that were ruled illegal by courts within the US.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Within.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, that could be l- local courts. Right?
- LGLuis J. Gomez
So, in some areas, it's illegal to have these names.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Mm-hmm.
- 32:32 – 41:26
Philadelphia street takeovers: mobs, stolen cars, and modern public disorder
- JRJoe Rogan
D- did you guys see that shit that was going down in Philadelphia yesterday where one of those street takeovers?
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
I saw a video of it. I don't know what it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
And the cop, cop car drives towards it and hits his lights and thinks he's gonna get them to scatter. And they just jump all over the car.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
I didn't see that video.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's crazy.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
I saw a couple of them. Ugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's crazy.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
And what is it they're doing?
- JRJoe Rogan
Check this out. Look. So the cop... There's, they've got, got a street takeover. So they just decided to stand in the middle of the street and block traffic.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Oh, is it a protest?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I don't know what, what they're doing. I think they're just getting crazy. I don't know if they're protesting anything. I think they're just, a group of kids just decided to get crazy. This is the United States of America.
- DSDave Smith
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
This is, this is like one of the... If you saw that this was happening in Ecuador, you'd be like, "Yo, Ecuador is out of control." Right?
- DSDave Smith
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But no, this is the United States of America in Philadelphia. Watch what happens to this cop car.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Wait, what was the fir- go back a little bit. What was the person who spun out with, like, the person hanging off the car?
- JRJoe Rogan
They're going crazy. It's a street takeover.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're doing that with their cars. That's what they're doing. So they block traffic and then they spin around in circles in their cars and they organize it. So this cop tries to break it up but they just fuck this cop's car up, dude. Hundreds of kids.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) And no one's in control of them.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Go Birds.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, if you are in that situation and you're parked in your car in, like, traffic 'cause there's, like, fucking-
- DSDave Smith
If I'm a cop?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, but what if you're not a cop? What if you're a cop right now?
- DSDave Smith
I'm just starting to blast everybody through the windshield. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You can't shoot enough people. There's too many, there's hundreds of people.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
It is, it is so funny-
- JRJoe Rogan
They'll get you and they'll kill you.
- DSDave Smith
I could get 16 of them.
- 41:26 – 51:32
Rap eras, real beefs, CIA conspiracies, and workout music debates
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Some of the fucking '90s stuff still holds up, man.
- DSDave Smith
Oh, yeah.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Most of it does.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. You know what I listened to the other day? Tim Dog.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- NANarrator
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Tim Dog. You remember that guy?
- DSDave Smith
Of course not. No, I don't think so.
- NANarrator
No way.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was, like, the first guy who went against the, the, the guys from Compton and-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Wait. Was he, was he based out of LA or something?
- JRJoe Rogan
He had a si-... No, he was a New York guy. See, he had a-
- DSDave Smith
I thought he was from New York.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, he had a song called Fuck Compton. (laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughs)
- LGLuis J. Gomez
That was pretty ballsy at the time.
- DSDave Smith
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DSDave Smith
It was pr-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Well, that was the worst rap beef ending ever.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is this, Jamie? The Side Show.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
It was, like, NWA. NWA split up from, uh, Ice Cube. And then, uh, Dr. Dre left, and then, and him and Eazy-E went and did their own thing. And then that beef ended in...... an AIDS death. (laughs) It's like, you don't see those ones happen anymore.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, those beefs, they would go to actual shooting each other. That's what's the craziest thing. Like, never in the history of show business was there a scenario where stars were having other stars murdered, like openly.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
That's happening now more than ever.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
It's, it's-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
With raps.
- JRJoe Rogan
... it's easier to become, like, a, a, like a, a "star" on the internet now. So a lot of these guys are, like, getting really popular and then getting killed, like young rappers.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
You know the wildest conspiracy theory about that has to do with intelligence agencies creating rap music-
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Oh, that the CIA made them, made them gangster and shit like that?
- 51:32 – 56:37
Juggalos, the Gathering chaos, and how Skankfest grew from that template
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
... DJ Paul at a Gathering of the Juggalos I performed at. He was one of the people that performed. It's so funny seeing the people who get what's happening there versus the performers who don't because, uh, he was up there. He knows. Like, he's been with that audience. I think Tech N9ne also does that, so he does all the family chants and stuff, uh, DJ Paul.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
And he just gets that crowd, gets them going. But they throw shit constantly and they're doing all kinds of crazy shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Rakim went up there. And by Rakim, like, the third song at, like, you know, they were throwing shit. But they're into it, the audience. And then he just kinda stops the song and he goes, "Hey, I ain't about all that fuck-shit throwing stuff, man. So, you can throw shit and we could leave, or we could do some rap music." And the crowd was just kinda like, "Oh, okay."
- DSDave Smith
Oh, they got it?
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
See, back in the day, when we did it, when we did it 15 years ago- He yelled at them and they, and then they just, and then they stopped.
- DSDave Smith
... dude, they were fucking savages. So I think they're, I think the Gathering of the Juggalos crowd has gotten older.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Well, they've aged too. Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
I think they're all, they're all 40 now, so it's like, they're like, "Okay, if you don't want us to throw stuff, we won't." (laughs)
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughs)
- DSDave Smith
Which is great. We did it-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
I feel like ... No, no, no, guys. I think they were a little more like-
- DSDave Smith
The crowd had to-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
... "Oh, this is our thing, though."
- DSDave Smith
They had to have a moment where they were like, "All right, it's a choice between throwing stuff or rap music."
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughs)
- DSDave Smith
Dude, we did it 15 years ago when we were just so young in comedy and we didn't know what it was. It was midnight in a tent in the woods with the Insane Clown Posse and it was a comedy tent.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
It's still that.
- DSDave Smith
I know, I know.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
But now we know who we are.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DSDave Smith
They had, I- I mean, they had a guy p- ... Uh, a clown pick us up in a van. It's, uh, DeRosa talks about it in his, uh, he has that joke on his special.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Upchucks.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah, Upchucks: The Clown, dude.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
His name's Joel. He's a comic from, uh, Michigan. He still runs it. He just doesn't do it anymore.
- DSDave Smith
So they pick you up in a van. It's the scariest thing ever. You're like, it's just pitch black in the woods in the darkness. And when they put us up there, like, these people aren't there for comedy. They're there for this, whatever experience. So, they just start throwing, like, just cans of soda and beer and alcohol.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
- DSDave Smith
Jay goes to me. He's like, "Dude, just ..." 'Cause I was going first. He was like ... I'm like a year in comedy. He's like, Jay is like, "Just go up there and do jokes. Don't just go up there and smoke weed and do crowd work." It was, like, me... And it was Vecchione, who's, like, a straight-up joke guy. So, uh, he was like, "You're gonna set us up to fail if you don't do jokes." So within 10 seconds, like, a, a beer can whizzed past my head. I was like, "Oh, is that weed?" And I just smoked weed with them for five minutes.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
No, Louis had on, he put on the-
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Free-speech comedy ecosystems: Legion of Skanks, Kill Tony, and YouTube censorship
- JRJoe Rogan
That's amazing. Dude, the- Legion of Skanks is one of the most important things in comedy.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Oh, thank you. Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
You guys really are.
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
You really are. It- I put you guys in the same, like... There's- there's this brackets of, like, Kill Tony, Legion of Skanks. This is the thing about having these battlegrounds where you go, "No, no, no, no. We're gonna say what we would say if we were fucking around together."
- DSDave Smith
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, you can deal with it or you cannot deal with it, but this is how we would... The- the conversations we're having are exactly like green room conversations.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Oh, yeah.
- DSDave Smith
Well, yeah. It's- I- and I feel like now, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like- almost like the tide has turned in some weird way. Like, it's kinda coming back.
- JRJoe Rogan
It- it definitely has.
- DSDave Smith
Even... There- there were, like, these big moments. I think, um, like, when they tried to cancel you and that didn't work. Uh, Shane getting SNL. Just, like, bi- big things where it's kinda like, oh, they're almost admitting, "Okay, we lost the great censor comedians war." But for those years, I think it was- it was good to have Legion of Skanks for a lot of those.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh-
- DSDave Smith
For a lot of those comics, I was just like, "Well, this is the place where you could still do whatever you want to."
- LGLuis J. Gomez
Yeah, we were- we were just opening the w- the door a little bit to say fucked up shit, and people would come on our show... I mean, the amount of times people have been like, "Dude, should I have not said that on your show?" (laughs) After they leave.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But the w-
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You guys did a wise thing too, though, 'cause you were subscription-based.
- DSDave Smith
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right? So for the longest time, if you wanted to find out what you guys were talking about, you had to subscribe, so you had, like, loyal subscribers.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
But I was- I was just kinda, like, playing on that too. It's to kinda keep our- ourselves a little safe from-
- DSDave Smith
Well, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
We have our own platform, and what- we put out the version on YouTube.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's smart.
- DSDave Smith
We put it out on iTunes, but we play by the rules there.
- BOBig Jay Oakerson
(laughs)
- DSDave Smith
So we edit out all the shit you can't say on those platforms.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DSDave Smith
And if you wanna see the real version, the way that we do it, you gotta go subscribe. Um, and honestly with YouTube, the way they started censoring everything, it actually now... 'Cause for... We've been doing this for, like, eight years, but now more than ever, a platform that we ha- l- like we have is more important than ever, because now YouTube is super strict with everything we do. We have to bleep things. We have to censor things. There's certain topics we can't even put in the podcast.
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