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Joe Rogan Experience #2212 - Jelly Roll

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Oct 11, 20242h 17mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:001:34

    MSG reunion and the feeling Austin comedy was about to explode

    1. JR

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

    4. JR

      (rock music plays) Let's go. Let's go, Jelly Roll.

    5. JR

      Yes. I'm back with my bubba. (laughs)

    6. JR

      My man. I haven't seen you since, uh, Madison Square Garden. That was crazy.

    7. JR

      Yes. What a great night that was, dude.

    8. JR

      What an experience. What an experience, man.

    9. JR

      Dude, it was so ... I was thinking about it pulling up here, is that, um, I think y'all just got out of Vulcan and the club had just opened. And I'd came that night to see Ron White, and I went back that Monday to see Kill Tony. And I could feel the Kill Tony thing happening over COVID at Vulcan, so I had to go see it in person, you know?

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      And I could remember sitting in there. And you know how, like, you can feel a sh- an energy shift?

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      I felt an energy shift in life in that room that night. I was like, "This is fixing to explode."

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Like, everything associated with this club, everything associated with Tony, everything associated with Joe is fixing to fucking rocket ship. And it felt like, almost like ... I'm getting goosebumps, Joe. I'm not even bullshitting.

    16. JR

      Woo, I'm getting goosebumps too.

    17. JR

      I'm getting goosebumps.

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      It's almost like ... I swear, dude. It was like feeling the grunge movement in the '90s. Like, when you first heard a little something, you were like, "This is different."

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      And you were like, "This could be something." And then it just turned out to be the explosion. It's like, I felt that happening. So to see Tony at fucking Madison Square Garden, and then to see how y'all showed up for Tony at Madison Square Garden. Every fucking comedian on Earth came to see that dude, to fucking-

    22. JR

      Two nights we had to be there.

    23. JR

      ... kiss him on his fucking cheek. You know what I'm saying?

  2. 1:344:46

    Tony Hinchcliffe’s evolution into an elite host (and why Kill Tony works)

    1. JR

      I had to be there. I had to be there. I was there in the beginning. I was there when there was, like, 18 comedians in the crowd.

    2. JR

      Is that not crazy?

    3. JR

      It was crazy. They were doing it in the Belly Room of the Comedy Store. It was just, like, an afterthought. They couldn't do any of the other rooms 'cause they didn't have an audience, and they would ... And Tony just had this weird idea that he just, like ... Like a little pit bull, just stuck with it.

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      One minute of comedy, and he, like, honed it over time, and figured out ... And then he became the best host in all of entertainment. There's n- no one better at hosting a comedy show than him. The way he does that show, the f- the speed of his comebacks, the speed of his, like ... The roast lines.

    6. JR

      Yeah. I tell Tony all the time-

    7. JR

      He's a wizard.

    8. JR

      I say, "Tony, I love you, and that panel is the coolest thing I've ever seen. But you are the show, brother."

    9. JR

      Oh, he's a monster.

    10. JR

      We- we would all tune in if you were sitting up there by yourself.

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      Like, you are just so sharp. Y- I relate to it too, Joe. I c- I- I- I compare art forms. It's just something I like to do. I know some people don't. But watching Tony, I feel a kinship to Tony and Andrew Schulz in a certain way, because I feel like we all kind of met each other right before it happened for all of us.

    13. JR

      Right. Right, right, right.

    14. JR

      Like, I remember me and Schulz doing the Opener Up song at the five, four... You know, he was doing two nights at Zanies, two shows. One show. You know, one show a night. You know what I mean?

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      And I was doing a thousand-seat club in the South. You know what I mean? And Tony was still Kill Tony-ing. You know what I mean? Like, and then-

    17. JR

      Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    18. JR

      And we're all fucking old. Like, the fact that it happened for all of us in our late 30s-

    19. JR

      True.

    20. JR

      ... is even cooler.

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      So it's this double kinship. Like, when I was nominated for New Artist of the Year at almost 40, that's the first time that had ever happened in CMA history, in country music.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      But, like, this year, most of those kids are 27 and under. Here I was, a 40-year-old fucking man up there.

    25. JR

      You're a beauty- beautiful example that there's no rules.

    26. JR

      Yes.

    27. JR

      There's no rules. It's all bullshit. Just be yourself.

    28. JR

      That's it.

    29. JR

      Just be yourself. Do your best. Find, find whatever it is inside you that you can express.

    30. JR

      That's it.

  3. 4:468:05

    Ron White, sobriety, and the chain reaction that built Austin’s comedy hub

    1. JR

      He was the first guy out here, you know. He was the first guy that came. He moved here before the pandemic.

    2. JR

      That's crazy.

    3. JR

      'Cause he was always with us at the Store, and then one day, I called him up. I go, "Where the fuck you been, man?" He goes, "I moved to Austin." Fuck it.

    4. JR

      Back to Texas.

    5. JR

      He just ... He said ... He just loved it. He's like, "There's no traffic. Everyone's nice." And I started thinking about it then. He planted, like, the first seeds in, like, 2018. I was like, "Could I live in Austin?" Fuck, I don't know. Because my instinct has always been to move to the mountains. Like, I wanna, I wanna live somewhere where there's no people. Like, very few people.

    6. JR

      Did you ever have a ... Did you have mountains in mind when you, like, romanticized it? Did you ever think of what mountains you would move to if you did it?

    7. JR

      I really liked the mountains above Boulder.

    8. JR

      Mm.

    9. JR

      I really ... I lived there for a little while in 2009. But, uh, when, um ... I think about Montana sometimes. I think about just someplace more peaceful. Wyoming. Somewhere just a little more peaceful. Cold as fuck in the winter, but just, like, more real. And that was m- my thought when I was living in LA, but it was, like, a necessity to get the fuck out of there. When, when the COVID stuff was going on, I'm like, "They are not gonna let this go. They are gonna keep us in control for ... " Once they have control of you like they had during the pandemic, wear a mask, gotta get a vaccine, can't go here, can't go there, no businesses, everything shut down, all the restaurants go under, all the comedy clubs go under. When they were doing that, I was like, "They're not gonna let this go. I gotta get the fuck out of here." And when we came to Texas ...... it was wide open.

    10. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    11. JR

      Like, you know, some places made you wear a mask, but it was a joke. It was like, it was a goof, it was weird. It was like a two- completely different universe. We could go to... W- my kids were young, man. They were 10 and 12, and like, they wanted to go to restaurants. I'm like, "We can go to a restaurant here, sit indoors." Like, for everyone was terrified in LA, and they just weren't here. And the same results, like the same, the same thing happened to everybody, but over here, it was a way more peaceful experience. And Ron, when we were out here, we, we started doing shows at the Vulcan. And one night, the first time Ron had been on stage in like eight months, he just grabbed me by my shoulders, and was like, "Whatever the fuck we have to do, we're gonna keep doing this." He's like, "You gotta open up a club." And I'm like, (sighs) "All right. That's it. We're opening up a club." And the process began.

    12. JR

      God, dude.

    13. JR

      All because of Ron. Ron l- led me to think about moving here. Ron was already out here, so I knew that if I did move to Austin, at least Ron's here.

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      You know? And then Tony moved here, and then Brian Simpson moved here, and then the fucking... The, just the train kept a-rollin all night long. It was nuts.

    16. JR

      You know, the cool... I think it was by default, it was kind of a universe thing where there was a little bit of still water that needed to be stirred.

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      And when you came, that still water stirred, and it awakened everybody. Like, hold on, there's, there's choices outside of the same routine that we've been... 'Cause like, you know, I mean, I'm sure y'all's life was stores, stores, stores, weekends out, stores, stores, stores.

    19. JR

      It was improv too. I did the im-

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      ... in the Icehouse.

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      There was a few clubs we did, like on a regular. We could... You know, 'cause th- the more places to work out, the better. You know, and when we were... There were so many of us too. You know, we'd, we'd have shows where it's like Bill Burr's on, me, Tom Segura, Bert Kreischer. They're crazy shows.

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      Crazy shows, 'cause everybody was in LA. It was a beautiful thing up until th- they shut everything down.

    26. JR

      It's that beautiful here now though, bud.

    27. JR

      I n- that's what's crazy.

    28. JR

      Man, that's what I'm saying. The, the, the water is complete... I mean, it is...

  4. 8:059:29

    Sponsor break + the club as a ‘gym’ for comedians

    1. JR

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    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      We're just having a great time, hanging out.

    4. JR

      No, no, no. That's what I, that's how I describe your club. I was like, "It's the gym for the greatest comedians in the world Tuesday through Thursday, and then the other greatest comedians in the world come and rent it from Friday (laughs) to Sunday."

    5. JR

      (laughs)

    6. JR

      I was like, "It's crazy, dude." It's like, no matter what day or show-

    7. JR

      And then you have Kill Tony, that's the anchor.

    8. JR

      Every Monday.

    9. JR

      Kill Tony, Kill Tony is the anchor of comedy in the known universe.

    10. JR

      Yeah.

  5. 9:2924:52

    Kill Tony’s ‘one minute’ philosophy and the arena-proof chaos

    1. JR

      It really... That's a grandiose statement, I know. But what Kill Tony shows you is like, every comic wants a reaction. And some comics, unfortunately, if you're in specific areas, like very liberal areas, like Silverlake has a problem with this, like those kind of places, where everyone's like super woke and they want to let everyone else know that they're super woke. It's like a kind of thing you have to do. So, you get ideologically captured, and you, you, you make material that's bullshit. You get clapter. What Kill Tony makes you do is you have one fucking minute. You have one minute, and there's obviously no rules. By the time you get on stage, you've seen Cam go crazy.

    2. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    3. JR

      You've seen Hans Kim say some ridiculous shit. Maybe you've seen William Montgomery or Brian Holtz, but you've seen maniacs on stage killing.

    4. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    5. JR

      And so you got one minute just crack. It's time to crack. So, it sets a tone for comedy. The comedy is just entertaining.

    6. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    7. JR

      No matter how you put it out, no matter what it is, what your style is, what you like to talk about, whether you're Nate Bargatze or whether you're Shane Gillis.

    8. JR

      Right.

    9. JR

      It's like there- there's just a different way to do it. Everybody's got their own way to do it, but it's just, just go try to find your way. Don't try any tricks. Don't try to sneak in some fucking ideological bullshit just 'cause you think people are gonna agree with you and like you more, and clap and che- and you're gonna say something profound. Shut up, you got one minute. So, that sets a tone for all the people coming up.

    10. JR

      (laughs) So real. (laughs) I never thought of it that way.

    11. JR

      It's so real. It's the mo- it's one of the most important things that's ever happened to comedy, yeah.

    12. JR

      Yeah. Nobody's trying to impose their beliefs on you real quick.

    13. JR

      Exactly.

    14. JR

      They're just trying to make... They got 60 seconds to get a fucking laugh.

    15. JR

      And you-

    16. JR

      And the Kill Tony crowd will boo you if you don't.

    17. JR

      Oh, they'll boo.

    18. JR

      You've got about 30 seconds with them up in-

    19. JR

      Yeah, they have very little time.

    20. JR

      ... in an arena, in an arena. Real dangerous grounds, dude. (laughs)

    21. JR

      Bro, they were... And especially New Yorkers.

    22. JR

      The first show in New York, dude.

    23. JR

      They were rough. (laughs) They were rough.

    24. JR

      It was... (laughs)

    25. JR

      They were rough. They go hard.

    26. JR

      You know, when I knew the arena thing was gonna be huge for Tony, I flew down here for the first one he did, 'cause we were drunk at the bar that night, and he was like, "I'm gonna play an arena." I was like, "I'm gonna come sing the national anthem." C- and it's a, it was a joke 'cause I don't sing the national anthem.

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. JR

      I have a rule, I don't sing the national anthem, (laughs) but I told him I was gonna do it. So, I came down, and we're watching, um, the first comedian this night at the HEB Center, right? The first bucket pull comes up, and you could tell this bitch did not have any idea she was gonna get called or anything to say.

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      This is the first... You're talking about a gift from God for Tony, right?

  6. 24:5230:10

    Storytelling as the oldest entertainment: campfires, drugs, and sacred myths

    1. JR

      I mean, that's why you love a good movie and it's why you love a good book.

    2. JR

      Yeah, especially when there's somebody that can tell a story that can capture you in a certain way.

    3. JR

      I think it was probably the oldest form of entertainment.

    4. JR

      Hmm.

    5. JR

      Right? Once people, when they first started learning language, I bet the oldest form of entertainment was probably recreating a thing they saw.

    6. JR

      Right. Hmm.

    7. JR

      Yeah. It had to be, right?

    8. JR

      Yeah, for sure. I mean, I, well, think about the old, "Let's sit around the campfire, read stories."

    9. JR

      Sure.

    10. JR

      I mean, that, that-

    11. JR

      Sure.

    12. JR

      I'm sure they were telling tales. Tall tales is what they used to call 'em. Think about how long we've been hearing these kinda stories of people just telling stories.

    13. JR

      Also, back then, that was the only time in your day that you got to relax.

    14. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    15. JR

      When you're sitting around the campfire, that was the only time. It was dark out, there was nothing to do. You found all the food you're gonna find, and you're gonna get up in the morning and go right back at it all day long again, and then eventually find your way back to the campfire.

    16. JR

      Good.

    17. JR

      So, the campfire was, like, the time where people would sit around and entertain each other.

    18. JR

      Wow.

    19. JR

      In pre-history.

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      You know?

    22. JR

      That's deep, 'cause you're thinking about it, like, from a hunting perspective too. They had to go out all day and find the food.

    23. JR

      Y- yeah, if you were-

    24. JR

      You could only do that when the sun was out.

    25. JR

      You could only do it when the sun was out, and then at nighttime it's fucking dangerous 'cause there's predators out there.

    26. JR

      Yeah. Mm-hmm.

    27. JR

      So, fire is the best thing to keep off the predators, you know, fire, and everybody gathers around the fire 'cause the predators don't wanna come to the fire.

    28. JR

      Yep.

    29. JR

      Fuck, man. And that's where people learned how to tell stories. That's why we're so attracted to it.

    30. JR

      And they were doing fucking drugs back then too, I'm sure.

  7. 30:1036:51

    Psilocybin: legality, healing experiences, and the ‘mushrooms from space’ theory

    1. JR

      I might do mushrooms today. It's my album release today-

    2. JR

      Today?

    3. JR

      ... I'm thinking about it. I don't know if I wanna do mushrooms-

    4. JR

      God, they should be legal.

    5. JR

      I know, right? (laughs)

    6. JR

      God, they should be legal. They should be legal and regulated, and people should figure out what the fuck they do.

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      Should do a lot of research, figure out what this is. This might be the thing that gets us out of there, just on a micro-dosing nation-

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      ... and connects together.

    11. JR

      I know every time I've went deep, it was life changing for me.... like, I'll do a lot of mushrooms every now and then, just, like, you know, "Woo, let's get..." But any time I was like, "Let's go," it was a life-changing experience every time.

    12. JR

      It's funny that people wanna reject that as not being imp- that's, what's really important is to keep people from, like, losing their mind and losing their ambition and, and becoming like the hippies were in the 1960s following Timothy Leary.

    13. JR

      Hmm.

    14. JR

      That's what everybody's worried about. Everybody's worried about, like, this collapse of society because people, they give up on capitalism and they, they tune in and drop out, you know?

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      That, that whole thing? I don't think that's real. (laughs)

    17. JR

      (laughs) Right?

    18. JR

      I think, I think... I don't think we should be worried about that.

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. JR

      I think those people are always gonna wanna drop out. The people that are, that wanna fuck off are always gonna wanna fuck off and if you give them an excuse, yeah, they're gonna do it. But that's just a style of person. That's not gonna affect most people. Most people would benefit, especially if they're not crazy, if they don't have, like, mental health problems. It'll, you'll probably get something out of it.

    21. JR

      Yeah. I mean, it's, it's helped me in some of my most depressed moments. If I'm really in a dark, dark spot and can't get out of it, my wife will encourage me to go trip. She'll be like, "Why don't you go..." 'Cause we, like, uh, we got this, uh, called the Buffalo River back in Tennessee. It's out- outside of a little town called Hohenwald, Tennessee. Look, old country river, man. I mean, little country creek, river. River, I mean, it's a river but it's kinda shallow. You can see the bottom of it and we'll go... It's called Floating the Buffalo. We'll go out there and just float the buffalo. And every now, about twice a year, me and the buddies will go out there and we'll just take six or seven-

    22. JR

      Damn.

    23. JR

      ... and just float the buffalo.

    24. JR

      Damn.

    25. JR

      So if I haven't got to do it in a year because of the schedule, my wife will feel that on me and be like-

    26. JR

      Maybe you need to go.

    27. JR

      ... "Yo, you might need to go to the buffalo." You know what I'm saying? (laughs) She's like, she'll, she'll say it really cool. She'll be like, "When's the last time you floated the buffalo?"

    28. JR

      Hmm.

    29. JR

      And I'll be like, "Man, it's been a year, hadn't it?" She'll be like, "I think you should, you and Scary Larry," who's one of my best friends, and he's, I've known him, we met each other in juvenile hall. He's a, just wild character. She goes, "You and Scary should go float the buffalo."

    30. JR

      Hmm.

  8. 36:5143:41

    Simulation talk, imposter syndrome, and staring at the sun of success

    1. JR

      (laughs) That's great. (laughs) You know what I tell somebody all the time? My new theory is, 'cause my life turned out in such a way I never dreamed, that this is a simulation. And that there is an overweight, nerdy alien that plays me.

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      And that during my s-... I, I think about this all the time when I'm high. And that my sleeping hours are, like, when he's doing his normal stuff, and my waking hours are his two hours a day.

    4. JR

      Hmm.

    5. JR

      And I just imagine this, like, kid that's looking back, like, "Mom! You won't believe what I've done with that fat dude the last nine months."

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      "It's fucking crazy! He's one of the most famous artists in the world." And she's like, "You gotta get off." He's like, "But he's going to the Grammys!" (laughs)

    8. JR

      Yeah, it's like a-

    9. JR

      (laughs)

    10. JR

      ... super hype version of Red Dead Redemption.

    11. JR

      You know? (laughs)

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      My, my, my dude's telling people, like, "Y'all remember that dude we thought wasn't gonna do it? He did it! He, he fucking figured it out!"

    14. JR

      If it's a simulation, it's a really good one. We're in a good timeline, brother.

    15. JR

      Oh, it couldn't be any better, man.

    16. JR

      We're in a, we're in a really good episode.

    17. JR

      Oh, dude.

    18. JR

      We got a-

    19. JR

      Yeah. (laughs)

    20. JR

      ... fucking good group of writers.

    21. JR

      It couldn't have got any cooler, man. (laughs)

    22. JR

      And that's like, if you're on a show and you've got writers like this, like, "Fuck, these writers are amazing."

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. JR

      This fucking show is always entertaining. Every day there's some new drama.

    25. JR

      Yeah. Oh, especially right now. We're in the middle of a drama scene.

    26. JR

      Oh my goodness, there's so much. There is so much, y- you can get overwhelmed just looking at the fucking news every day.

    27. JR

      It's a great time for me to be in the middle of a tour.

    28. JR

      Yes.

    29. JR

      'Cause I have missed it all. I'm doing-

    30. JR

      That's good.

  9. 43:411:05:13

    100-pound weight loss, food addiction patterns, and building healthier routines on tour

    1. JR

      You know what I mean? And, um, it's, it's really inspired me to start focusing on my health too, dude. I'm down 100 pounds now. Officially down 100 fucking pounds.

    2. JR

      That's amazing. Congratulations. That's really huge.

    3. JR

      Dude, it's-

    4. JR

      That's a big, massive accomplishment.

    5. JR

      Thank you, brother. It's been all food. I'm working out, I'm walking, but what I've learned is, as I'm losing the weight, it's inspiring me to just-

    6. JR

      Keep going.

    7. JR

      By nature I want to go walk and do more stuff, because-

    8. JR

      Right.

    9. JR

      ... I'm fucking, I'm lighter.

    10. JR

      Sure, sure.

    11. JR

      I feel better. So when the army's like, "You want to go play basketball?" We're playing basketball three days a week now.

    12. JR

      Wow.

    13. JR

      You want to hear the coolest act of love, Joe? I'll, I'll try not to get emotional talking about this, but... My whole band has watched me fight. Cocaine addiction, l- they watched me get off coke, they watched me get off lean. They've watched me figure my life out slowly. And they knew that the last mountain for me was food. So we started putting a real structure around it, I hired a real nutritionist, he's out here with me now. I mean, like, I'm only eating his food. I'm just like super with it, we're getting anything that could, you know, out of the green room, we're just... So I'm working out every day, walking around the arenas. And one day they have a basketball court, because we're fucking playing in a... This is insane, by the way, that I'm playing in fucking NBA arenas.

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. JR

      And like, I'm playing where the fucking Orlando Magic... (laughs)

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. JR

      I'm on an Orlando Magic court. Like, what the f- I feel, I'm, I'm like a fucking fat Shaq.

    18. JR

      Uh.

    19. JR

      But, um, so the first day it's just like me and like three or four dudes. The crew heard. Dude, the next day, 30. The whole crew showed up for me. And they don't, you know, these dudes are just, they're just there because they know it's helping me, kind of. So now three days a week we're renting basketball courts and having full-blown fucking tournaments.

    20. JR

      Wow.

    21. JR

      And it's been so good for me, because it's like reconnecting to my childhood in this really weird way of like, I grew up in a community where there were basketball courts and we would all go play, you know what I mean? It's like, it's been really like... It's been the best experience ever. And I'm getting to do it in like, back to that weird shit. Not only are you experiencing this with your friends and people you love, and then you're doing it at the San Antonio Spurs court.

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      (laughs) And the San Antonio Spurs coach is out there giving you pointers and fucking being the referee.

    24. JR

      That's amazing.

    25. JR

      And you're, you're, the Sacramento Kings coach is fucking shooting with you, you know what I mean?

    26. JR

      Yeah. Elon's right. This is a simu-

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. JR

      This is n- this ain't real life.

    29. JR

      No.

    30. JR

      It can't be.

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