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Joe Rogan Experience #2218 - Sam Tripoli

This episode of The Joe Rogan Experience is brought to you by Call of Duty Black Ops 6. Available now at http://callofduty.com/blackops6 Sam Tripoli is stand-up comedian, writer, host of the "Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli" and "Zero with Sam Tripoli" podcasts, and co-host of several others, including "Cash Daddies," "Conspiracy Social Club," and "Broken Simulation." His new special, "Why is Everybody Gettin' Quiet?," is available now a samtripoli.com. www.samtripoli.com

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Oct 25, 20242h 36mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:001:32

    Election jitters and the “martial law” DOD directive controversy

    1. NA

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

    3. Hey, what up?

    4. JR

      Hey.

    5. ST

      Exciting times, exciting times.

    6. JR

      It's a good time to be a conspiracy theorist. (laughs)

    7. ST

      It's a good time to be a conspiracy theorist. It's a great time to be a comedian.

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. ST

      These are the, these are the good days, the all or nothing days.

    10. JR

      Yeah, these are the good days until the election, and then who the fuck knows what happens?

    11. ST

      Just fast forward to it.

    12. JR

      Did you see this thing that the, uh, B- Biden administration pushed through, um, this new martial law thing?

    13. ST

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      This is very disturbing. Um, Jamie, please google this so we can find out what the actual law states, but it's, uh, DOD Directive 5240.01-

    15. ST

      Oh, yeah. (laughs)

    16. JR

      ... giving the Pentagon power, for the first time in history, to use lethal force to kill Americans on US soil who protest government policies.

    17. ST

      What are they expecting?

    18. NA

      I think I'm 5250.01. Is that wh- sounds right?

    19. JR

      I'm s-... Is that what it is?

    20. NA

      Uh, I don't... Sorry. 525-

    21. JR

      Did I tell you what it is? I'm sorry. Um, 5240.01.

    22. ST

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      Um, DOD directive. This is from RFK Jr., posted this on Twitter, and I'm finding out about it 'cause people were blowing me up about it. Uh, that's fucking terrifying. That is a terrifying thing to, uh, push through for the first time in US history, giving the military the ability to shoot and kill American citizens.

  2. 1:322:52

    Legalized propaganda, narrative control, and “reptilian” behavior in institutions

    1. ST

      That's crazy too. Uh, eh, it's interesting because you know with the S- uh, the Smith-Muntz, uh, Modernization Act and stuff like that, it's almost like they kind of, in a weird way, just make it legal what they're already doing. The, if you use-

    2. JR

      What is that? The Smith Modernization Act?

    3. ST

      The Smith-Muntz Modernization Act that Obama pushed through, which basically made it so it was legal for the US government to use propaganda against-

    4. JR

      Oh, right.

    5. ST

      ... against its citizens, which they were already doing in different ways through CIA and all that stuff.

    6. JR

      Right.

    7. ST

      So, it's now it's like we can legally do it. You can't sue us now.

    8. JR

      How crazy is it that it's legal to lie?

    9. ST

      How crazy is that?

    10. JR

      It's legal for the government to not just legally lie, but they can concoct completely fabricated stories just to push a narrative if they dec- decide that it's in the best interest of national security or whatever.

    11. ST

      To just manipulate energy in your mind and all that stuff to get you to believe certain things. And it's a... We need to bring back shame. That's my opinion.

    12. JR

      Well, they have none.

    13. ST

      They ha-... None, but it's-

    14. JR

      It's not gonna work. You can't bring back shame to lizard people.

    15. ST

      Yeah. (laughs)

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. ST

      They can't. They can't feel anything. It's in their reptilian brains, which is very i-... Some weird shit going on right now with that.

    18. JR

      It's weird because, like, you know that David Icke stuff where he said they're all r- lizard people? I don't think they're really lizard people. I don't think they're really shape-shifters. But they do behave in a reptilian way, like a corporation does, like a psychopath.

  3. 2:528:14

    Interconnected elites and assassination rabbit holes (Reagan, Lennon, Malcolm X)

    1. ST

      I, I, I don't know if they're actual reptilians, dude, but there is something going on that they are a group of people, 'cause they're all related, which is very weird if you, like, oh, you go back far enough, they're all related. Like, if you study Obama and Bush, right? You know, we, you m-... I, 'cause I remember when Bush, uh, when Obama was running. I was like, "Oh, change. It's gonna be change."

    2. JR

      Ho- hope and change.

    3. ST

      Hope and change. And then you start studying, like, the Bushes and the Obamas and, and their, their, their first ancestor, their common ancestor is a Hinckley, dude. Right? And you go, "Wha-"

    4. JR

      Like John Hinckley, the guy who kill- tried to kill Reagan?

    5. ST

      100%.

    6. JR

      What?

    7. ST

      Yes. Their f-... Their f-

    8. JR

      They were l-

    9. ST

      ... common ancestor is a Hinckley. (laughs) And then when you realize that, tha-

    10. JR

      H- Hinckley was related to Obama and Bush?

    11. ST

      And related to the Bu-... The Bushes had dinner with the Hinckleys the night before Reagan got shot. And here's the (laughs) craziest thing.

    12. JR

      What? What?

    13. ST

      Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

    14. JR

      Do you think... Okay, I always thought Hinckley was a lone nut that was in f-... a, a, uh, fa- infatuated with Jodie Foster. What? He... So...

    15. ST

      No, dude. And he actually, there's actually interviews, dude, where he said, "U- uh, u- uh, u- Uncle George told me to do it."

    16. JR

      Oh, Jesus.

    17. ST

      Okay.

    18. JR

      Didn't they just let him out?

    19. ST

      Yeah. And now he's doing, like, plating coffee beans 'cause he's put out an album or something like that. (laughs)

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. ST

      Dude. (laughs)

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. ST

      He's touring off it.

    24. JR

      Ah.

    25. ST

      But that's a crazy thing.

    26. JR

      Barack Obama is the tenth cousin, once removed of George W. Bush, through Samuel Hinckley of Cape Cod. Holy shit.

    27. ST

      It's so crazy.

    28. JR

      Wha- I've never gone down the Hinckley rabbit hole. What's the h- wh- so John Hinckley, the guy who killed or shot, rather, Reagan, what was his deal? Was he-

    29. ST

      He was, like, he-

    30. JR

      ... MKUltra?

  4. 8:1412:21

    Espionage tactics, pager attacks, and living in a surveillance panopticon

    1. JR

      Bro, how exciting must it be to be an undercover dude?

    2. ST

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      To be, like, deep under- Imagine being, like, a fucking, uh, IDF soldier who's in Hamas.

    4. ST

      Dude, that's crazy.

    5. JR

      You're in Hamas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're in there.

    6. ST

      And you're so deep, too.

    7. JR

      You're so deep that no one even knows what your actual job is, and there's like... Israel doesn't play.

    8. ST

      Israel has a-

    9. JR

      They don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck. They have a bunch of those dudes.

    10. ST

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      Like, infiltrate, infiltrated-

    12. ST

      Everywhere.

    13. JR

      ... Hezbollah.

    14. ST

      Everywhere.

    15. JR

      They've got guys in everywhere. That's how they-

    16. ST

      The US government, it's every-

    17. JR

      ... screw everybody up with those pagers.

    18. ST

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      But-

    20. ST

      That's crazy.

    21. JR

      That pager thing is one of the most gangster moves in the history of espionage.

    22. ST

      And it's like you gotta sto- you know, every f-

    23. JR

      Is that espionage, technically? No.

    24. ST

      Yeah, 100%.

    25. JR

      Is that what you call it?

    26. ST

      Yeah. It was 100... It's clandestine and all that stuff. This episode of The Joe Rogan Experience is brought to you by Call of Duty. You know when a new Call of Duty drops, everyone's trying to find a way to squeeze in those extra hours of gameplay. I get it. Life is busy, but sometimes you just (beep) need (static) .

    27. NA

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    28. JR

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    29. ST

      And then you study where, like-

    30. JR

      Blow their dicks off.

  5. 12:2114:52

    Trust, government incentives, guns, and neglected domestic investment

    1. ST

      It's so crazy, 'cause you know he's super highly educated, you know. A- and Bryan Kallen is a sweetheart. People don't realize that. He's almost to a point like he's a people pleaser where he just wants to make sure everybody's happy.

    2. JR

      A little bit of that, yeah.

    3. ST

      A little bit, and he kind of puts himself in some weird situations once in a while.

    4. JR

      Because of that, yeah.

    5. ST

      But at the end of the day he has a good heart and he means really well.

    6. JR

      Uh, he's a great guy. I've been friends with Bryan for 30 years.

    7. ST

      Yeah, he's the best.

    8. JR

      We're real, we're real good friends.

    9. ST

      And you love-

    10. JR

      I love him to death.

    11. ST

      And he wants to have hope.

    12. JR

      Well, he wants to believe that the government is good.

    13. ST

      Yes.

    14. JR

      And I think the government is mostly good.

    15. ST

      Yes.

    16. JR

      That's what I think about people. I think people are mostly good. I m- I think most people are great. But I, I think the reason the Second Amendment exists is some people are not great.

    17. ST

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      Some people are really bad, and you want to protect the great people from the people that are really bad, and that's a reality, unfortunate reality. I would like that to go away. I would like there be no need for guns, because everyone's amazing.

    19. ST

      (laughs) Yeah.

    20. JR

      That would be the best.

    21. ST

      100%.

    22. JR

      That would be the best. But pretending that everyone's the best without fixing all the problems that make people fucked up in the first place while trying to remove guns so only outlaws have guns is the dumbest fucking strategy.

    23. ST

      It's so stupid.

    24. JR

      And every city that pulls that off like Chicago or Detroit or any of these places that try that shit, th- it's a disaster and a fucking war zone, you know. I mean, there's more people get murdered in Chicago-

    25. ST

      Right.

    26. JR

      ... every weekend than probably any city in the country.

    27. ST

      The places with the strictest gun laws-

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. ST

      ... have the most violence.

    30. JR

      Yeah, it's fucking dumb. It doesn't work that way. You have to, you have to look at things realistically, and then you have to look at the root of the problem instead of looking at the actions. Don't look at the actions. Look at what causes the actions: extreme poverty, despair, gang-ridden, crime-ridden neighborhoods. If you don't fix them, you're gonna keep getting the same kind of people that come out of there. So that is where we... We spent $175 billion on Ukraine.

  6. 14:5220:45

    Immigration, scarcity, and divide-and-conquer cultural strategies

    1. JR

      I don't think it is. I think they're acting in the interest of the people that pay them, in the interest of the people that pay them is supporting the military-industrial complex, the pharmaceutical industrial complex. And then all the people that give them money keep getting more money from them and ignore all the other people. This is what I think they're doing, and this is what I think they're doing with voting as well. I mean, I think it's the exact same thing. The, the reason why they're letting in so many people and giving them money and putting them up in hotels and then asking for amnesty for all these people that came in, we need people. The key, this is like this new narrative. "We're, we're not having enough babies. We need people to come into this country." Sure, not that way.

    2. ST

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      Not where you don't know-

    4. ST

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      ... who the fuck they are.

    6. ST

      Yeah. We like to vet them.

    7. JR

      And 15,000 of them are rapists, 14,000 of them are murderers, convicted murderers.

    8. ST

      It's like you're s-

    9. JR

      This is just what we know.

    10. ST

      It's like you're having a party and you're like, "Oh, there's not a lot of people here." Sounds like I'll invite a bunch of people.

    11. JR

      Go to South Central.

    12. ST

      Who, who-

    13. JR

      Open up the doors. Find, find the gangbangers.

    14. ST

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Bring them in. Yeah.

    16. ST

      But then you study, you study a lot of this stuff and, and it just gets into like I, I think like this kind of like dark energy stuff, man. It's like if you study like what they did to the Native Americans, if you study what they did to the, the, the Black community, they run the same playbook over and over again.

    17. JR

      Right.

    18. ST

      Which is take, take... Like if you study the natives, right, they took, they killed all the buffalo, which mean- took away all the g- jobs from the guys. They flooded-

    19. JR

      That's a little more complicated. The, the Native American story is a little more complicated-

    20. ST

      But it's just-

    21. JR

      ... in that, in that regard.

    22. ST

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      'Cause the buffalo thing wa- There's some evidence that some people were killing the buffalo to deprive the Native Americans of food, but most of it was just wanton and destructive recklessness and just like greed, just horrible greed.

    24. ST

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      'Cause you know what they were doing it for? Pickled tongues. That was the primary thing they were getting.

    26. ST

      That's crazy.

    27. JR

      Before they're even getting skins from the buffalo, they were getting tongues. Tongues was like one of the big things because you could take them, you could pickle them, you could send them back East, and they were worth a lot of money.

    28. ST

      That's crazy.

    29. JR

      'Cause a buffalo tongue is like that big.

    30. ST

      Yeah.

  7. 20:4523:19

    Words losing meaning: racism labels, media incentives, and the Graham Hancock fight

    1. ST

      It's so crazy to me, and I- I'm working on this bit right now because, like, everything in television is like civil war. There's gonna be a civil war. There's gonna be, uh, uh, movies. And I'm like, "Between who?" Like, uh, the right and the left? That, that's gotta sound like a curb stomping to me. It's like, you're gonna have, like, the rednecks versus the furries. And, like-

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. ST

      Who, who's fighting here, dude? It's, like, ridiculous. And because, like, they, uh... It's gotten so crazy that, like, you know, if you called somebody a fascist, that meant they were, like, taking away your rights. Now it's just your dad who watches Fox News.

    4. JR

      Right.

    5. ST

      It's, like, so stupid. Racist. I... Get called racist. It doesn't e-... It's almost like a badge of honor at this point to be called these terms 'cause it's just by annoying people who I don't like anyways.

    6. JR

      Right.

    7. ST

      So it's ju-... It's, it's destroyed this kind of fabric between, uh, relationships between everybody, and I-

    8. JR

      It's destroyed the meaning of words, and it really opens the door for real racists. Like, if you only have one word and the word is racist, and you apply that word to anyone, everyone, anyone who disagrees with you-

    9. ST

      All the time.

    10. JR

      Like, they, they apply it to Graham Hancock, the archeologist, all the-

    11. ST

      (laughs) It's so crazy.

    12. JR

      I had this fucking guy on, this Flint Dibble guy, who's an archeologist, who literally wrote things implying that Graham Hancock's work empowers white supremacy.

    13. ST

      So stupid.

    14. JR

      And I asked him about it, and he was, like, trying to skid around it and dance around it, but I've seen him do it online with other people too. And this is a guy in Graham Hancock who's talking about ancient cultures. He's, he's literally saying... We're talking about the, like, Egypt. No one's saying that, like, s- white people built the pyramids.

    15. ST

      Yeah, it's so stupid. (laughs)

    16. JR

      They're saying that it, they've been there longer than people think. That's it. By the same fucking people that lived there in, uh, in Northern Africa. It's the same fucking people. No one's-

    17. ST

      (laughs) That's crazy.

    18. JR

      (laughs) No one's saying white people. There's no white people back... I mean, especially in that area. What are you talking about? It's not a white thing. It's Egyptians. It's Africans.

    19. ST

      Oh, I love hidden history, dude.

    20. JR

      But yet you can say racist and everybody's like, "Oh my God, the racists. Back away."

    21. ST

      (laughs) It's so crazy.

    22. JR

      Back away.

    23. ST

      (laughs)

    24. JR

      Dude, it's nuts. But it loses-

    25. ST

      It's so crazy.

    26. JR

      The problem is there's real racists out there. There's fucking KKKs real. There's real white supremacists out there. And when you call a fucking archeologist, you know, an amateur archeologist, a racist because he's, like, trying to say, like, "Hey, maybe this stuff is older than we think it is." Well, you, now, what about the... What are you gonna call the real... Are they super racists? What are, what are those?

    27. ST

      And what does this mean?

    28. JR

      Far right racists?

    29. ST

      What is the play... Like, play the tape out. What does that mean? Like, like, if you go all the, these, this is white supremacy. What does that mean? Is he s- i- is it lo- is he trying to say that they're stealing, like, their val- valor? Is that what they're saying, like?

  8. 23:1929:27

    Younger Dryas, lost civilizations, Tartaria, and the puzzle of the pyramids

    1. JR

      They're trying to s- take away the notion that these ancient indigenous people constructed these things, but no one's saying that. Like, he even implied that Graham has said something about aliens, which he definitely hasn't. He doesn't s- think aliens built it. No, the, the, what the... They're misrepresenting the argument, and the argument is a fascinating one, and it's backed by actual science. And the argument is there's a thing called the Younger Dryas Impact Theory that happened around 11,800 years ago.

    2. ST

      Yes.

    3. JR

      Documented, proven, 100% real event. They know the dates that it happens because it, it happens every year. Was it November and June? Is that when the meteor... The Leonid m- meteor shower? Is that what it is? So there's a comet shower that we pass through twice a year, and every now and then, a big chunk, like the Tunguska event-... the Tunguska event in the early 1900s, which flattened, like, a million acres in Siberia, is the exact same time period where we pass through this shower. So, they believe that at 11,800 years ago, this impact, and this is proven by core samples that show high levels of i- iridium, high levels of, uh, this nuclear glass that happens on impacts, and they find this stuff all in the same area, around 11- 11,800 BC, and then another one that's somewhere around, uh, 10,000 s- or, uh, 11,800 years ago, rather, and another one that's, like, 10,000+ years ago. So they think there's, like, multiple events that took place over a few thousand years, which totally makes sense. If we pass through this fucking shower all the time and it nuked a giant chunk of Siberia-

    4. ST

      Yeah, yeah.

    5. JR

      ... in the early 1900s. So, all he's saying, all Graham Hancock is saying is, we are a species with amnesia.

    6. ST

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      And to call him a racist, for, it's, the whole thing's nuts.

    8. ST

      I love it, dude. And, like, if you, I think the world before that, that event, was crazy, bro. It was like, it was l- I think it's like a Game of Thrones meets, like, Harry Po- like, it was the craziest thing ever. Everything, like, even if you study, like, the stuff that happened in the Bible, and all these crazy things they say people did, I think all that stuff was possible before that and they j- it just wiped out this incredible civilization that was so advanced and they had, they could manipulate energy and they could do all this. Who built the pyramids? Maybe Nephilim. Who knows? Dude, giants just lifting logs and putting, I mean, giant, uh, bricks, and putting them in there.

    9. JR

      Whoever did it, they had an insane level of sophistication-

    10. ST

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      ... that doesn't make any sense when you compare the rest of the world. The rest of the world, at 2500 BC, which is the conventional date, let's say that's correct, just the conventional date, Graham Hancock thinks it was probably much earlier, but let's say the conventional date, no one else was doing anything like that 2500 BC. Not even close. So what, what was going on there? How did... Did they just have insane resources? Did they have so much food and water and they existed for thousands of years just like... You know, look, we were talking about this, I had Brian Cox on yesterday, and we were talking about how if you go back literally 120 years ago you have Wilbur and Orville W- Wright flying this bullshit-ass plane.

    12. ST

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      Now, 120 years later, you have Elon Musk and Starship X-

    14. ST

      Right.

    15. JR

      ... catching rockets on a fucking machine.

    16. ST

      That was crazy.

    17. JR

      Ahh. But-

    18. ST

      That was crazy.

    19. JR

      ... the kind of progress that you're looking at is fucking, uh, impossible to imagine.

    20. ST

      It's so crazy.

    21. JR

      So, imagine if these Egyptians had this same sort of situation where they had an established civilization, an established culture, plenty of food, plenty of resources, brilliant people, no war, and then they just start figuring stuff out, but on a different pathway. Instead of with, like, engines and internal combustion and electronics, they go a different way, and we don't know what that way is. But it's totally possible that that way exists.

    22. ST

      Yeah, y- there's a lot of great YouTube channels that break this stuff down, like m- On My Lunch Break and, uh, Analog, I've had them on my show and they... He was telling me this story about how, like, they, they were drilling low and then they got to this... And there was this giant, like, cavern, and they found, like, whole c- uh, civilization down there that was empty, and he, he talked about one time where they just kept drilling and they just would find civilization on top of civilization and they got low enough that they found, like, uh, like, in America, they found, like, Chinese writing low enough, 'cause-

    23. JR

      Where is this?

    24. ST

      Yeah, dude. I- if you study these guys, they have these YouTube channels, it's, uh, it's uh, On My Lunch Break and Analog, and they just discu- they just break down kind of like something I talked about last time I was on here, which was Tartaria, but it's lost civilizations, how our timeline is completely fucked. It's not even, it's not even real. There's people think, like, we're millions of years old and we have these giant events that kind of come and reset us.

    25. JR

      Mmm.

    26. ST

      But they dig deep enough, there's like civilizations keep digging, there's another civilization over and over and over, we're just, we're just on top of giants, dude.

    27. JR

      Well, that's the case with Egypt. There's Old Kingdom and then there's New Kingdom stuff, and when you go deeper into the sand, you find more complex buildings.

    28. ST

      Yeah, dude.

    29. JR

      Which is nuts. Bigger stones, like, crazy stuff, man. That Old Kingdom Egypt stuff is a specific style, and so, you know, maybe that was 11,800 years ago, and then maybe 10,000 years ago is the other one. Like, we don't know. We, we don't know how old that stuff is.

    30. ST

      Well, it's almost like the Egyptians were, just kind of moved in, and they're like, "These are our pyramids," and like-

  9. 29:2734:52

    Craftsmanship, grand sacred architecture, and the business of modern religion

    1. ST

      ... even if you go into these small kind of towns, you just go into like, a, pick any state, you go into a small town, their city hall is like the most beautiful building-

    2. JR

      Right.

    3. ST

      ... you've ever seen, surrounded by trailers. And you're like, "Who was here? Who made that? Why'd they make that? And where did they go?" And you see that-

    4. JR

      Craftsmen.

    5. ST

      ... all over the place.

    6. JR

      But, but, you know, the thing is, like, craftsmen for, like, if you go into, like, old houses and old churches, the craftsmanship is insane.

    7. ST

      Insane.

    8. JR

      Have you ever been to Vatican?

    9. ST

      No. That's-

    10. JR

      Dude.

    11. ST

      That's on the list.

    12. JR

      Vatican's incredible. St Peter's Basilica is fucking mind-blowing. You walk around, it took hundreds of years to make, and the craftsmanship is just spectacular. When you walk around, your, your jaw's just hanging out like...What the fuck, man?

    13. ST

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      H- show some photos of St. Peter's Basilica. Dude, it's immense. I don't know how tall the ceiling is, it's fucking crazy tall. But th- i- it's like everywhere you look is incredible, ornate craftsmanship. And, you know, that was a thing that people did. Like, show the inside. That pho- yeah, that one.

    15. ST

      Look at that.

    16. JR

      C- click on that. Look at that, man.

    17. ST

      The detail. Oh my God.

    18. JR

      Dude, in, in real life, it blows your mind 'cause you're just like, "How? How long? What was the motivation? How did you get the money?" Like, w- who did you steal all that money from?

    19. ST

      That is so crazy.

    20. JR

      Click on that other one, Jamie. The one... Yeah.

    21. ST

      Wow.

    22. JR

      Look at that. And then the one to the left of that, too. Look at that. Fuck, dude. And you, when you walk around in there, you... I mean, photos barely do it justice. See g- uh, go to the one w- there in the l- lower, the right-hand side, Jamie, with all the people in it.

    23. ST

      Wow.

    24. JR

      Right next to that, to the right. Yeah, right there. Look at that one. So that gives you a ch- a- an understanding of the scale. You see all these people roaming around in it. It's fucking amazing. And so, people were just really good at carpentry and craftsmanship back then.

    25. ST

      Yeah. Yeah.

    26. JR

      And it was a skill that was taught in school. You know, like, like how many sculptors are there today? It's probably a dying thing. It's probably very few actual sculptors.

    27. ST

      So sad.

    28. JR

      But back then, it was a real craft that you can get into. And especially, you know, you're doing all this stuff by hand. Like they didn't even have power tools, okay? So that whole thing was built without table saws, no band saws. It was all planers and hand chisels and s-

    29. ST

      Something would happen.

    30. JR

      ... hand saws.

  10. 34:5242:22

    Spiritual curiosity, attention management, and building discipline

    1. ST

      Yeah, it's kind of crazy, too, because like I grew up in that era, and that, all that stuff kind of made me like question the church and then question God. And then I just kind of go, oh... 'Cause I- I- I've been spending some time with my friends. We kind of listen to Johnny Cash read the Bible.

    2. JR

      Oh, wow.

    3. ST

      It's the best. It's-

    4. JR

      How old was he when he read the Bible?

    5. ST

      I- I don't know how old he was, but it's like very soothing, and it's like... I'm gonna be honest with you. Like I'm on this journey right now, but I've never sat down and read the Bible. I've been told-

    6. JR

      Can I stop you right there?

    7. ST

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      I hate when people say they're o- on a journey.

    9. ST

      I don't know. I-

    10. JR

      Just don't say it anymore.

    11. ST

      Okay. Well, I'm going for a walk. I'm kidding.

    12. JR

      Say it.

    13. ST

      No, it's fine. I don't care. I don't care.

    14. JR

      Nothing wrong, nothing wrong with being on a spiritual journey.

    15. ST

      But I'm just trying to learn.

    16. JR

      Yes.

    17. ST

      Right? 'Cause I've been a, like a real knuckle-dragger my whole life.

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. ST

      I'm trying to get, get o- into the higher vibrational, right?

    20. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    21. ST

      So I'm studying this shit.

    22. JR

      Johnny Cash reading the New Testament. Oh, so he was old. It was old Johnny Cash, 1990. Okay, not too, not too old.

    23. ST

      It's the best. It's the best.

    24. JR

      Not too old. Oh, wow. That's fucking great.

    25. ST

      And you just listen to him, and like I never sat down and read the Bible. I've never actually read what's in it. I've been always told what was in it. I never read it.

    26. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    27. ST

      And now to hear it actually read, which technically I'm not reading it either, I'm listening, but, you know.

    28. JR

      Right.

    29. ST

      It's like it's really interesting.

    30. JR

      I tried to say I read a book to Donnell Rawlings. I told him I read it on, uh... I- I listened to it on audio tape. He goes, "So you didn't read it."

  11. 42:2257:15

    Kids, gender medicine, and institutional incentives (plus porn’s mainstream shift)

    1. ST

      He like, uh, because you know the weird thing about that, because there was this whole push, you know, about drag queens and... Dude, I've been to drag shows. They're great. I, personally, I don't think they need to be reading to kindergartners. That's just my personal opinion.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. ST

      Right? A- a- and now they all get, a lot of them get busted with having weird pasts, right? A- and the reason I do that is, is like whether it's the child sex changes and all that stuff, it's like most of the people pushing that stuff-... people, okay, are in therapy for trauma that occurred to them as children. And now they're totally fine with traumatizing children with weird-ass shit. Like, to me, like, kindergarten should be As, Bs, Cs, adding up all, you know, ma- It shouldn't be-

    4. JR

      Play games, football.

    5. ST

      Yeah. Like, drag queens seem like algebra to me.

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. ST

      Like, really advanced shit that we most, most adults don't even quite understand.

    8. JR

      Well, first of all, why would you ever push anything sexual to people that haven't even-

    9. ST

      Well, h- yeah.

    10. JR

      ... they haven't even come close to puberty.

    11. ST

      Yeah. It's so gross-

    12. JR

      That doesn't... That makes no sense.

    13. ST

      ... to me.

    14. JR

      It's gross. It's not just gross, it's disturbing and we're also ignoring the fact that human beings are extremely malleable. You can convince people of all sorts of things. You can influence people to do all sorts of things. We know that. That's why cults exist, right?

    15. ST

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      That's why you can get... Why do you think they get little kids to become suicide bombers? 'Cause they don't know any better. Try getting a 55-year-old guy with-

    17. ST

      (laughs)

    18. JR

      ... a, a (laughs) wife and kids and a job-

    19. ST

      Yeah. Yeah.

    20. JR

      ... to be a suicide bomber. He'd be like, "What?" Try getting some fucking guy in New Jersey who takes the train into Manhattan every day. Try to get that guy to be a suicide bomber. He'd be like, "What the fuck are you talking about, man?"

    21. ST

      Right. Right.

    22. JR

      "I'm trying to pay my mortgage."

    23. ST

      Right.

    24. JR

      "I'm, I'm going to my kid's, my kid's recital tonight."

    25. ST

      100%.

    26. JR

      "Not blowing myself up. For what?"

    27. ST

      They have people that rely on them, and then kids just have nothing, and they're very-

    28. JR

      They have nothing.

    29. ST

      ... trusting of adults, too.

    30. JR

      And they really believe that they're gonna go to heaven. They really believe that they're gonna be martyrs. And then they have framed photographs. There was... I remember there were, um, there was this documentary where there, uh, there was this school in the Middle East and they, they were talking about today's students are tomorrow's holy martyrs, and it was printed on the wall. And in it, they had photographs of various children that had blown themselves up.

  12. 57:151:03:32

    Birth-rate collapse, plastics, and culture shifts around family formation

    1. ST

      (laughs) I was at the airport flying here, and like, I love children, like, especially now I have kids I realize how magical they are. And like, you go to airports, you don't see kids like you used to when I was coming up. It's just, nobody's having kids anymore. At least that's what they're telling us. But, so I'm there-

    2. JR

      Well, that's why we need immigrants, Sam.

    3. ST

      (laughs)

    4. JR

      That's why we need to keep the borders open, Sam.

    5. ST

      I see that. And dude, even like, lot, even-

    6. JR

      We need to give them money, Sam.

    7. ST

      Even Mexico's birth rate's going down. It's like Mexicans aren't having kids now, dude, that's crazy.

    8. JR

      Is that real?

    9. ST

      Yeah, that, and like, dude, I saw this chart which stated like the birth rates of all these countries. It is not, the only place that's only down 20%, Jamaica. They're still dropping dick. Nobody else's.

    10. JR

      Well, they probably don't have a lot of plastic over there. The part of it is, uh, reproductive cycles are being devastated by plastic.

    11. ST

      Dude, we're entering our Children of Men phase, dude. I'm telling you, bro. We're like-

    12. JR

      Hm, maybe.

    13. ST

      We're, we're, nobody has kids.

    14. JR

      Remember that movie that was like ridiculous? Everybody was like, "That's crazy."

    15. ST

      Yeah, and now like everything's militarized-

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. ST

      ... and nobody's having kids. Welcome.

    18. JR

      I mean, it's gonna get to a point where abortion rights are gonna be moot. Like, it's not really important because nobody can have kids.

    19. ST

      Nobody's g- Yeah, it's really sad, dude. It's-

    20. JR

      It's, it's weird because this is what happens in industrialized civilizations anyway. So, whenever you have like cities, what happens is women enter the workforce so they have children later. And then men wanna have children later as well 'cause everybody's focusing on the career. And then you have, uh, IVF centers and everything because people are too old to have kids. They're late 30s like, "Oh my God, we have to do something to have a kid. We don't have any time. Freeze the embryos, do whatever we gotta do." And so, it's normal for third world countries to have more kids, you know? That's always been the case because you need children 'cause you need children to help you work, you know? If you're working on a farm or ranch or, you need kids. And then you get to cities and people are like, "Well, the w- the wife wants a career as well." And, it, it, you know, birth rates always drop. But you get to places like Japan or South Korea-

    21. ST

      It's crazy.

    22. JR

      ... they're catastrophic.

    23. ST

      Catast- Everyone's watching eel porn, nobody wants to get, hook up with the bitches, dawg.

    24. JR

      (laughs) Well, it's not even them, man. It's work. It's work, you know, especially in South Korea. You know, they're, they're very hardworking. It's a very hard work ethic. And the, the population drop is so bad that it's something crazy like one out of 100 people today will have grandchildren. Something bananas like that.

    25. ST

      That is so nuts to me. And, and it, you know what else is kinda crazy? Like, the, the, what feminism has done. And there's a, the, I, I think we're in big trouble. Our gene pool's in big trouble. Like especially if you take a look at like how many O- there's like so many Only Fans, it's unbelievable, right? And that, that lifestyle, when you're a gorgeous woman like that, that lifestyle that you start to go on Only Fans, that kind of like shuts certain doors in your life. And one thing-

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. ST

      ... that, that is gonna happen is like high value males probably don't want an adult film star as the mother of their children.

    28. JR

      Right.

    29. ST

      And these are like viking bitches, right?

    30. JR

      Right.

  13. 1:03:321:21:30

    Comedy world nostalgia: The Comedy Store eras, Kill Tony’s rise, and post-cancel freedom

    1. NA

      I love 6th Street energy. I love going there and just feeling the energy.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. ST

      It reminds me, dude, of, like, you remember Hollywood Boul- uh, Sunset Boulevard in, like, '98?

    4. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    5. ST

      When, like, Kobe and Shaq were crushing it with the Lakers and it was just chaos.

    6. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    7. ST

      And we didn't know how good we had it and it was so much fun. And now, that's all gone.

    8. JR

      Well, also, we were undercover, right? Because even though I was on TV, nobody knew who the fuck I was in '98.

    9. ST

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      It's like we were just kids. We were just young guys, like, in this wild business, and we couldn't believe we were working in Hollywood, we were working at The Comedy Store, you know? And then all these celebrities would come by. You'd see Quentin Tarantino there and Dr. Dre there, and you're like, "What the fuck? This is crazy." Couldn't even believe it was real. Dice Clay is there, like, "What?"

    11. ST

      My favorite... Uh, listen, there's two times at The Comedy Store that I loved. Obviously, when you came back and it was just fire and it was like every show was selling out instantly. But there was also that dead period at the store where it was like we could just go up and bomb with dignity-

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. ST

      ... and nobody cared. You didn't have-

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. ST

      There was nobody in the OR. You were just-

    16. JR

      Woo!

    17. ST

      ... eating a dick and you felt great about yourself 'cause it was, like, towards the end of Mitzi's, like, con- she was still in control but she wasn't, like, hands-on.

    18. JR

      That was 2007 to '14.

    19. ST

      Yeah, it was just-

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. ST

      It was-

    22. JR

      That's when I was gone.

    23. ST

      Y- uh, no, no, it was right before-

    24. JR

      Oh, before.

    25. ST

      ... you left, too. You were, you were the- I loved you. You were the only one putting your name on the marquee still. Eh, you know, you'd have these guys popping in, doing an hour, their name wasn't on the marquee. It was- it was chaos, man.

    26. JR

      But the reason why they did that is 'cause they had this erroneous idea that you wouldn't sell tickets in LA if your name was at The Comedy Store. People knew they could see you at The Comedy Store. Why would they go see you at the Forum?

    27. ST

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      And I was always like, "W- well, who s-"

    29. ST

      That's stupid to me.

    30. JR

      "... says who?"

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