Joe Rogan Experience #2223 - Elon Musk

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. EMElon Musk0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

   4. EMElon Musk0:12

      Uh, but if, if you, if, if you wanna sort of see like a, a, a vision of the future, it's like basically the, the, like the top 20 and the, or even the top 100 is, like, totally dominated by China. (laughs) It's insane.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Really?

   6. EMElon Musk0:23

      Yeah, there's like China, Kora- and a little bit of Korea and Taiwan.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:26

      So you in, are you in the top 20 in the world or top 20 in the-

   8. EMElon Musk0:29

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:29

      Wow. In Diablo.

   10. EMElon Musk0:30

       Yeah, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Do you wanna tell everybody your handle?

   12. EMElon Musk0:33

       Uh-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       No, no, don't tell them.

   14. EMElon Musk0:34

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Don't tell them. It's not worth it.

   16. EMElon Musk0:36

       Well, I, uh, they, they, they actually listed me with my actual name in the, in the list.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Oh, did they really?

   18. EMElon Musk0:42

       Yeah, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Oh, interesting.

   20. EMElon Musk0:43

       Um, but, um, yeah, there's only, there's only two Americans in the top 20. Uh, the re- the rest, almost everyone is, uh, from Asia, uh, otherwise.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       We were talking about something that I think is a really good, uh, because people always think that video games are frivolous, but what, what you were saying I think that's really important is it, it, it's so difficult that it requires you to only think about that and it can, like, relieve stress because-

   22. EMElon Musk1:05

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       ... it can, uh, take out the rest of the world because it's so hard.

   24. EMElon Musk1:08

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       You can only think about that.

   26. EMElon Musk1:10

       Yeah. I mean, if I, like, if I play a video game on extreme difficulty, then, um, I have to concentrate fully on the game, um, and it's, it's, it has a, a calming effect.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:19

       Yeah.

   28. EMElon Musk1:19

       Uh, it sort of chills down. Um, and, uh, I mean, you mentioned, I think, and, and maybe people, like, if you play martial arts or you, you play pool-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:27

       Yes. Yes.

   30. EMElon Musk1:27

       ... uh, like, something that, that forces you ... It, it's like I think any- anything that forces you to concentrate fully, um, actually has a, has a calming effect. I find it just sort of, like, um, kind of a, a mental, uh, restoring effect, maybe.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Well, there's also a…

   1. EMElon Musk15:00

      the thing was way overpriced. Um, and, um, you know, like, long- long term, I think, uh, we can- we can ult- ultimately make it a win for investors, but, boy, this is- this is a- a- this is a hard way to make a living, I think.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      Well, there's also a concerted effort to suppress it. There's a concerted effort-

   3. EMElon Musk15:15

      Well, yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      ... to, with the advertisers.

   5. EMElon Musk15:17

      Well, we had- w- we had, uh, and still have, uh, um, a massive advertiser boycott that was organized by a- a bunch of left-wing NGOs. Like, uh, you know, and- and you- you- you always want... And I should've bro- I should've brought my, um... I- I have a hat, Make Orwell Fiction Again.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      (laughs) I've seen that hat. (laughs)

   7. EMElon Musk15:34

      (laughs) Yeah. I- I should've brought... I was gonna bring my... I- I should've brought my Make Orwell Fiction hat, um, but- but, uh, yeah, I mean, it's just totally, totally nuts. Um, so-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:46

      If you didn't do it, no one would have. And here's the hilarious narrative that I keep hearing from idiots. "Uh, Elon's a bad businessman. Twitter is worth, you know, 400% less than when he bought it." No, it wasn't worth that in the first place.

   9. EMElon Musk15:59

      It wasn't worth it in the first place.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       It wasn't worth $44 billion, you fucking morons.

   11. EMElon Musk16:02

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       Like, wrong. And also, you're not taking into account the advertiser boycott.

   13. EMElon Musk16:06

       Exactly.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       That's total bullshit.

   15. EMElon Musk16:08

       Yeah, ex- exactly. So, the- there are these organizations w- like, you can tell there's like, th- they're like sh- like, wh- when they have an Orwellian name, so like the- like the Cen- Center for Countering Digital Hate-

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:18

       Right. (laughs)

   17. EMElon Musk16:18

       ... is- is a total scam organization, you know, 'cause, g- they're like the Ministry of Truth-

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       Yeah.

   19. EMElon Musk16:23

       ... type of thing in Or- in- in Orwell. Um, you know, uh, they're- they're- they're like, they're- they're a censorship organization.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:30

       Yeah.

   21. EMElon Musk16:30

       Um, and they organi- and- and they pushed, uh, the advertisers to boycott. Uh, so we still have... Like, some of the boycott is- is- is starting to lift. Um, and, uh, I think if Trump wins, we'll- we'll see, you know, probably a lot, most- most of the boycott lift. Uh, but if- if Kamala wins, we'll see that boycott get stronger.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:50

       (inhales deeply)

   23. EMElon Musk16:50

       Uh, and- and they'll- they'll freaking shut it down.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:52

       (exhales deeply)

   25. EMElon Musk16:52

       There's no way that- that, uh, the sort of Kama- Kamala public regime would allow X to exist.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:56

       You really think that they'll be able to shut it down, though?

   27. EMElon Musk16:58

       Yes.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:58

       Is there a pathway to that?

   29. EMElon Musk17:00

       Uh, yes.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:01

       What would they do?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      world that we live in, is that tyranny is possible and it exists other places and it's slowly existing. It's slowly rearing its head in the UK. You're, you're seeing-

   2. EMElon Musk30:10

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      ... I, I think the, the number of people that have been arrested for just social media, uh, posts is bananas. It's in the thousands.

   4. EMElon Musk30:18

      Yes. Several thousand people have been, have been given prison sentences, sentences in the UK for social media posts that, where there was no explicit link to actual violence.... but they just said it encouraged violence. I'm like, "Well, did anyone actually do anything as a result of that media post?" Uh, well, no. But they, they're just, uh, and, and then they have a prison overcrowding situation in the UK so they, uh, quite literally are releasing convicted pedophiles and putting people in jail for Facebook posts. That's an actual thing happening in Britain.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:51

      That is so wild.

   6. EMElon Musk30:52

      Like, it's, you're like, "What-"

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:53

      It's so wild that people can't see that.

   8. EMElon Musk30:55

      "... what the fuck, you know, is going on?"

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:56

      And what's insane to me is-

   10. EMElon Musk30:57

       Make Orwell fiction again.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       Yeah.

   12. EMElon Musk30:59

       You know?

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       But it's all being encouraged by the left. Ketanji Brown Jackson.

   14. EMElon Musk31:03

       Absolutely.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:03

       John Kerry.

   16. EMElon Musk31:04

       Yeah. Uh, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       Uh, uh, Hillary Clinton.

   18. EMElon Musk31:05

       John Kerry, John Kerry was one of the people who said that, uh, he's on camera rec- like, a few weeks ago, saying that the First Amendment is a pro- is an obstacle to fighting misinformation.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       Yeah. That's crazy. That's such a crazy thing to say when you have a solution in community notes.

   20. EMElon Musk31:19

       Yes. Exactly.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:19

       You have a solution in something- that could clear everything up, any confusion within a day or two.

   22. EMElon Musk31:23

       Yes. And, and even without a community note, you can reply to a post and with, with evidence that cl- that, that shows that the post is wrong.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:30

       Yes.

   24. EMElon Musk31:30

       You don't even need community notes. I mean, community notes is helpful 'cause it sticks to the original note.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       Yes.

   26. EMElon Musk31:34

       But in the replies, you can say, "Here's why you're wrong, here are the reasons, and here's the evidence."

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:38

       But the argument is that people are too unsophisticated, that they're not going to research these things, they're gonna be a victim of misinformation. So they're gonna read something, it's incorrect, they're gonna run with it, people are gonna die, people are gonna, we're gonna ruin the world because people believed in misinformation. It's a stupid argument.

   28. EMElon Musk31:55

       It's a stupid argument.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:56

       Because it's an argument that they're too dumb to know what's right or wrong.

   30. EMElon Musk31:59

       Yes.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Okay. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      he didn't die.

   2. EMElon Musk45:00

      Okay.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      He lived, but he, he was a really healthy guy. He was an athlete.

   4. EMElon Musk45:03

      But he was probably not the same afterwards (whistles)

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      Yeah, had knee problems and he took Vioxx, and all of a sudden he was slurring his words and he couldn't concentrate. And people were like-

   6. EMElon Musk45:10

      Holy shit.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:10

      ... "I think you're having a fucking stroke." And they took him to the hospital. And then, then you have this giant class action lawsuit, then Vioxx gets pulled from the market and they get sued and the whole thing's fucking crazy. But there's a long history of this. Uh, I think... What did, what is the number? Like one third of the drugs that the FDA approves gets pulled? It's fucking bananas.

   8. EMElon Musk45:29

      That is crazy.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:30

      That's crazy. You're shitty at one third of the things that you say are okay?

   10. EMElon Musk45:35

       Yes.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:35

       But yet you're trying to stop MDMA therapy for veterans?

   12. EMElon Musk45:39

       Yeah. They should let MDMA through, honestly. That... I think that'll actually help a lot of people. It's-

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       It would help a lot of people.

   14. EMElon Musk45:45

       It would help a lot of people.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:45

       There's a lot of different therapies, sp- specifically p- psil- psilocybin, ibogaine.

   16. EMElon Musk45:50

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       The fact you have to go to Mexico to get, uh, ibogaine therapy for veterans. So many guys I've talked to have gone over there-

   18. EMElon Musk45:56

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       ... and it's like completely given them a, a clean slate-

   20. EMElon Musk45:59

       Yeah, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       ... refreshed their mind, and totally new perspective on life, alleviated depression, cured addictions.

   22. EMElon Musk46:06

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       Illegal.

   24. EMElon Musk46:06

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       Illegal. OxyContin, go get it. (laughs)

   26. EMElon Musk46:10

       Yeah. Um, and I know some people who, like, their, their life was ruined by OxyContin.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:15

       Oh, yeah.

   28. EMElon Musk46:16

       'Cause, uh, I mean, it, it, it really depends on s- on, you know, somebody's in- individual biochemistry. Um, like, to me, like, like, um, opioids are not addictive to me. Like, I... You know, I've had them when I've had operations or something, and, uh, they, they, they, they're, they barely affect the, my, my pain level and they make me, like, itchy and uncomfortable. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:34

       They make me stupid.

   30. EMElon Musk46:35

       (laughs) Yeah, they... Exactly. But, but I'm like... So, so like, like, I could never get addicted to alcohol or, or opioids. It's just impossible. Like, it... 'cause my biochemistry just, does, does not have... But like, but I love tasty food. If you're like, you know-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:07:34

   Right. …

   1. EMElon Musk1:00:00

      this was a fucking squirrel.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      Right.

   3. EMElon Musk1:00:01

      It's not, it's not an anaconda or a...

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      Right.

   5. EMElon Musk1:00:04

      Or, or, or, you know, you know, crocodile or something that's gonna harm-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      Or a chimpanzee. Did you see Chimp Crazy?

   7. EMElon Musk1:00:09

      Oh man, ch- ch- chimps, chimps will, chimps will eat your face, okay?

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      They will fuck you up.

   9. EMElon Musk1:00:14

      They will fuck you up. (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

       And they don't even... The thing is they don't even kill you. They just cripple you. Chimps don't even kill people.

   11. EMElon Musk1:00:19

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

       Which is really weird. They just bite your hands off and bite your dick off and tear your face apart.

   13. EMElon Musk1:00:25

       (laughs) Yes.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       They wanna leave you... They could kill you easily.

   15. EMElon Musk1:00:27

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

       If a chimp wanted to just punch you in the head until you're dead, it wouldn't take long. But they don't kill you. They just rip you apart.

   17. EMElon Musk1:00:34

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       And you can have a chimp.... and so-

   19. EMElon Musk1:00:38

       Yeah, but-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       Well, you used to be able to have a chimp in a lot of states, and then chimp crazy kind of exposed a lot of that. And PETA did a great job of stopping people from keeping chimps as pets. 'Cause once they hit, like, five-

   21. EMElon Musk1:00:47

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       ... you can't control them anymore.

   23. EMElon Musk1:00:48

       Well, it's obviously totally understandable if somebody's got, um, you know, a creature that is dangerous to others.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       Right.

   25. EMElon Musk1:00:53

       But, like, obviously a s- a squirrel and a raccoon are not. And-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       Well, squirrels are fucking everywhere. That's what's so crazy.

   27. EMElon Musk1:00:58

       Y- yeah, like, why don't you just-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

       Like, why can't you have it in the house? What kind of rules are we dealing with? You have rats everywhere.

   29. EMElon Musk1:01:03

       Yeah. Um, I mean, they're, they're, they're allowing criminals to go free, and, and, like, violent criminals to go free, but they're, like, spending your tax dollars to come in and execute your fucking pets. What the hell is going on?

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       Exactly. Exactly.

Episode duration: 2:38:40