Joe Rogan Experience #2224 - Tim Dillon

1. 0:00 – 1:50

   Election-day banter: live show worries, Trump/Kamala jokes, and “plants”

   1. TDTim Dillon0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. (rock music)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. It's the end of the world as we know it. How are you feeling?

   4. TDTim Dillon0:16

      I'm feeling good, thank you for having-

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Real good.

   6. TDTim Dillon0:17

      I heard you were having a problem getting big guests-

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      (laughs)

   8. TDTim Dillon0:21

      ... and things were not going good. And I, I said, "Hey, I'll fly in and, and I'll help." I'm always here to help.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:27

      Well, we were talking about doing a live show-

   10. TDTim Dillon0:28

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       ... at the Mothership.

   12. TDTim Dillon0:30

       Sure.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       But then somebody told a Puerto Rican joke, and we're like, "Maybe that's not a good idea."

   14. TDTim Dillon0:33

       Yeah, I mean... (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       (laughs)

   16. TDTim Dillon0:37

       It was, uh, you know, it might have been. We don't know. It could've been interesting, could've been, uh-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       It would've been fun, but-

   18. TDTim Dillon0:43

       Could've been fun.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       ... you know, whatever. What are you gonna do?

   20. TDTim Dillon0:45

       Yeah, it's election, it's election day.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       If, uh, if Trump loses, he's on suicide watch.

   22. TDTim Dillon0:50

       If Trump loses, we're gonna have to hide him.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       (laughs)

   24. TDTim Dillon0:52

       We're gonna have to pay a cartel to shelter him for a, a period of months or years.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       They'll take him in Canada. He can just move up to Canada.

   26. TDTim Dillon1:00

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       Sort of change his rhetoric a little bit.

   28. TDTim Dillon1:02

       Yeah, yeah. No, if, if Trump loses, it definitely, he definitely will have to, uh-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Kind of tone it down.

   30. TDTim Dillon1:07

       Eh, you know, he might have to-
2. 1:50 – 3:03

   Collapse-of-civilization markers: scapegoats, gender obsession, and celebrity chefs

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:50

      It's always Jews. It's that they think the Jews are re- (laughs)

   2. TDTim Dillon1:52

      The Jew- it always gets to the Jews. It'll start somewhere and then goes to the Jews.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:56

      I forget who told me this, but it's, like, one of the symptoms of a collapsing civilization, they start blaming things on Jews.

   4. TDTim Dillon2:04

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:05

      It's, like, one of them is they get very obsessed with gender, and then the other one is they start blaming Jews.

   6. TDTim Dillon2:11

      Oh, the other thing is-

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:11

      We're in both of those right now.

   8. TDTim Dillon2:12

      ... they make celebrities out of chefs, like, that get very decadent. This happened in Rome, and there's, there's, there's-

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:18

      Really?

   10. TDTim Dillon2:18

       Yeah. Like, they, they... Like, people that provide you these comforts become celebrities because you're getting-

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:25

       Oh.

   12. TDTim Dillon2:25

       You're just living very-

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:26

       Get so much comfort, right.

   14. TDTim Dillon2:27

       Living a decadent-

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:29

       Ah.

   16. TDTim Dillon2:29

       ... lifestyle. And-

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:30

       Oh, that's... I never considered that. That's-

   18. TDTim Dillon2:32

       So, it's one of the things that people say is, like, a harbinger of the apocalypse, is, like-

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:38

       Celebrity chefs?

   20. TDTim Dillon2:39

       People just focusing way too much on, like, you know, artisanal, you know, donuts or whatever.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:46

       Right. My wife likes going to those places.

   22. TDTim Dillon2:48

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:48

       Where they serve you, like, 13 different things.

   24. TDTim Dillon2:50

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:50

       And each one is the size of a quarter.

   26. TDTim Dillon2:51

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:52

       I need a steak. I need a-

   28. TDTim Dillon2:53

       It's very, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:54

       Bring it all at once. I'm a glutton.

   30. TDTim Dillon2:56

       Yeah.
3. 3:03 – 4:46

   Fine dining misery and the ‘emotion dump’ problem

   1. TDTim Dillon3:03

      Well, it's also so much time. It's, like, three hours.

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:05

      I can't do it.

   3. TDTim Dillon3:06

      And the waiters tell you about every single thing. And it feels very, like, indulgent to sit-

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:11

      Yeah.

   5. TDTim Dillon3:11

      ... somewhere for three hours and then get educated about, like, where a raspberry came from.

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:17

      Right.

   7. TDTim Dillon3:18

      You know?

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:19

      I can take it with the omakase sushi, like, Philip Franklin's, Lee's place.

   9. TDTim Dillon3:23

      Sure.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:24

       That's kind of fun, you know. It's l- You watch them do it.

   11. TDTim Dillon3:27

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:27

       You watch them, like, slice it up and put it together.

   13. TDTim Dillon3:29

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:29

       It's kind of cool. It's fun.

   15. TDTim Dillon3:30

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:31

       Just know what you're in for when you get there.

   17. TDTim Dillon3:33

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:33

       You have conversations. There's a small amount of people.

   19. TDTim Dillon3:36

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:36

       So you could get to know folks. I don't know why but-

   21. TDTim Dillon3:38

       And a sushi bar is good 'cause you don't have to talk that much.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       Right.

   23. TDTim Dillon3:42

       When you're directly across somebody for three hours-

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:45

       Ooh, yeah.

   25. TDTim Dillon3:45

       ... that's intense.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:46

       And the worst is, like, someone could be in the middle of some fucking horrible story, "And then my mother came back, and it was stage four, and it-"

   27. TDTim Dillon3:52

       "Oh, this is a peanut-"

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:54

       Right. (laughs)

   29. TDTim Dillon3:55

       "... from Australia, and the glaze is a demi-glaze with a South France bourbon."

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:00

       Right. Yeah, and then, "Oh, oh, oh, oh."
4. 4:46 – 6:05

   Pathologizing behavior: borderline personality jokes, ADHD skepticism, and medicating ‘patterns’

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:46

      What is that exactly?

   2. TDTim Dillon4:47

      It's th- It's th-

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:48

      Is that real?

   4. TDTim Dillon4:50

      No.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:50

      (laughs)

   6. TDTim Dillon4:50

      And it's people that just go around ruining all the relationships in their life.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:55

      Oh, so they come up with a mental illness.

   8. TDTim Dillon4:55

      So it just means you're a piece of shit.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:57

      Right.

   10. TDTim Dillon4:58

       Which is fine. And then there's, they, so they just say it's bord- they're borderline.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:02

       Right, 'cause there's a lot of, like, mental things like that, that are just sort of patterns that people fall into.

   12. TDTim Dillon5:07

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:07

       Like, if you're rude-

   14. TDTim Dillon5:08

       But you can't medicate a pattern.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:09

       But can you pede- But could you, can you medicate rudeness? Like, some people are just rude. They're just not nice-

   16. TDTim Dillon5:13

       They don't-

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:13

       They're not nice to waiters.

   18. TDTim Dillon5:14

       They'll invent a way... The pharmaceutical industry's such a profitable thing. They w- Everything eventually-

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:20

       Yeah.

   20. TDTim Dillon5:20

       ... will be a disease.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:22

       Yeah. I'm more and more convinced that ADHD is not real.

   22. TDTim Dillon5:25

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:25

       I think a lot of kids just have a lot of fucking energy and they're supposed to be doing other stuff.

   24. TDTim Dillon5:28

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:28

       They're not supposed to be sitting at a desk all day.

   26. TDTim Dillon5:30

       Put them in the military.

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:31

       Yeah, yeah.

   28. TDTim Dillon5:32

       Let them... You know what I mean?

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:34

       Or let them play video games professionally.

   30. TDTim Dillon5:36

       There are, yes.
5. 6:05 – 8:46

   War, patriotism, and the post-9/11 ‘unity’ paradox

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:05

      We are. If we had more wars, one thing that people would appreciate is the whole concept of America.

   2. TDTim Dillon6:11

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:11

      Like if we got attacked-

   4. TDTim Dillon6:12

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:12

      ... like after 9/11-

   6. TDTim Dillon6:14

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:14

      ... after 9/11, I don't know where you were, um, but I was in LA and the fucking ... well, you're a lot younger than me-

   8. TDTim Dillon6:19

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:20

      ... but the flags on people's cars were everywhere in Los Angeles-

   10. TDTim Dillon6:24

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:24

       ... which is crazy. It's like everyone was super pa- patriotic. And people merged-

   12. TDTim Dillon6:29

       I was in New York and it felt, it felt, uh, you know, people get mad when you say this. It, it was the best time ever to live in America-

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:36

       Yeah.

   14. TDTim Dillon6:36

       ... after 9/11.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:37

       Isn't that crazy?

   16. TDTim Dillon6:37

       It was the warmest time you felt. I never felt better about the country.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:44

       United. Yeah.

   18. TDTim Dillon6:44

       We felt united. We were compassionate. We truly loved each other.

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:49

       I think that's how people in Israel feel every day.

   20. TDTim Dillon6:52

       Really?

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:52

       Yep. Yeah.

   22. TDTim Dillon6:53

       Isn't it so they go through it so much that they're desensitized-

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:58

       Mm-hmm.

   24. TDTim Dillon6:58

       ... to it at this point?

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:58

       I had a kickboxing coach, my friend Shuki, and he was from Israel and he was always telling me, like I... I went over his house for dinner once and him and his wife, they're playing the bongos and dancing and shit and-

   26. TDTim Dillon7:07

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:07

       ... having a great time, like-

   28. TDTim Dillon7:08

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:08

       ... he goes like this and he goes, "In Israel you're always worried you're going to die. So every day is party, party."

   30. TDTim Dillon7:14

       Right. They might have had a drug problem. (laughs)
6. 8:46 – 15:15

   Sponsor break + election-night satire: counting votes, media narratives, and Elon as villain/hero

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:46

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   2. TDTim Dillon10:44

      252. They just called it for Kamala.

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:46

      (laughs)

   4. TDTim Dillon10:48

      And, (laughs) and I'm excited about it because many of us-

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:53

      What is-

   6. TDTim Dillon10:53

      ... will be in jail if we don't-

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:54

      What is the current results-

   8. TDTim Dillon10:54

      If you don't get excited right now-

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:56

      Yeah, you'd be in jail.

   10. TDTim Dillon10:56

       ... many of us will go, go right to jail.

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:58

       Right.

   12. TDTim Dillon10:59

       So-

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:59

       It's like when Dear Leader died and you had to cry-

   14. TDTim Dillon11:01

       Yes.

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:01

       ... for six months.

   16. TDTim Dillon11:02

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:02

       If you didn't cry, they put you in jail.

   18. TDTim Dillon11:04

       Yeah. I don't think we should get nuts with the counting. If it feels good-

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:08

       (laughs)

   20. TDTim Dillon11:10

       If it feels good, let's just do it. If it feel-

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:13

       Right.

   22. TDTim Dillon11:13

       To me, the numbers and the columns and the tabulation kind of is a waste of time.

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:18

       I think we just go with whatever Joy Reid thinks.

   24. TDTim Dillon11:21

       Whatever, whatever they want. I mean-

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:22

       Did you see Rachel Maddow calling for Elon Musk contracts to be taken away?

   26. TDTim Dillon11:26

       I didn't. But that's... that's kind of makes sense I guess if you're Rachel Maddow, right?

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:31

       Uh, but it's the most bananas thing ever. You have-

   28. TDTim Dillon11:33

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:33

       ... literally one of the greatest geniuses-

   30. TDTim Dillon11:37

       Yeah.
7. 15:15 – 17:50

   Ukraine funding, voter ID, early voting signals, and Roe as an election driver

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      Yeah, y-... Fucking Christ. It's... That's, that's something I think people should be voting on. Imagine if you put it up to vote for people, like, "Hey, do you guys think we should fund Ukraine to the tu- tune of 190 billion?"

   2. TDTim Dillon15:29

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:29

      And maybe have someone else come along and say, "This is an alternative of what we could do with that money."

   4. TDTim Dillon15:32

      Right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:33

      You know?

   6. TDTim Dillon15:33

      There's no vote on that. There's no vote on a lot of the things that we're told to live with.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:40

      Yeah.

   8. TDTim Dillon15:40

      There's never been a, a, a, a vote on immigration. There's votes for candidates to support it or don't support it, but there's never been a vote on should, you know, "Should we secure the southern border," would unanimously be voted on.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:53

      Yeah.

   10. TDTim Dillon15:53

       And people would unanimously pretty much say, "Absolutely."

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       Well, how about the voter ID laws?

   12. TDTim Dillon15:58

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       84% of America think we should have voter ID.

   14. TDTim Dillon16:01

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       Uh-huh.

   16. TDTim Dillon16:02

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       I showed my ID today. Um, Jamie, what's the total so far? What's the, like, the latest results?

   18. NANarrator16:07

       We won't know for a few hours.

   19. TDTim Dillon16:09

       So here's what I will say about-

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       We don't know anything?

   21. NANarrator16:10

       The polls don't close until-

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       Can we just be lied to?

   23. TDTim Dillon16:12

       Early voting-

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       Can you slide us a little?

   25. TDTim Dillon16:13

       Early voting in Pennsylvania is down.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:15

       I got it. We're in the middle of my life right now.

   27. TDTim Dillon16:15

       You can check this out. Early voting in Pennsylvania is down for Democrats. 2020, you had 1.6 million registered Democrats vote early. Now you had 821,000.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       Hmm.

   29. TDTim Dillon16:26

       Whereas Republicans, early voters, I think, last, the 2020 was, like, 547,000, 521,000 this time, meaning that the Republican early vote in PA, which is the most important state, and Michigan and Georgia, is around the same as it has been. The Democratic, uh, early vote is, is somewhat depressed. It is not as strong as it's been.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:51

       I don't know what that is.
8. 17:50 – 21:11

   Trans sports, donor-class politics, and schools as activist battlegrounds

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:50

      You know they found out that that boxer that won a gold medal in the Olympics is actually a man?

   2. TDTim Dillon17:55

      No.

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:55

      The one that-

   4. TDTim Dillon17:56

      That's, that's not shocking.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:56

      ... everyone was complaining was-

   6. TDTim Dillon17:58

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:58

      ... was a biological male.

   8. TDTim Dillon17:59

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:59

      Like, "You piece of shit."

   10. TDTim Dillon18:00

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan18:00

       "They have a medical condition." No. Has a micro penis.

   12. TDTim Dillon18:03

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan18:03

       Internal testicles.

   14. TDTim Dillon18:05

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan18:05

       Went through male puberty, biological male.

   16. TDTim Dillon18:07

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:08

       XY chromosome, whole deal.

   18. TDTim Dillon18:09

       It's-

   19. JRJoe Rogan18:09

       Won a gold medal in the women's Olympics in boxing.

   20. TDTim Dillon18:11

       It's so crazy to me, and I think the biggest problem is the donor class, because the donor class of the Democratic Party, and like Republican Party, you either have people that are business owners that are donating because of business interests or you have radicals-

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:24

       Right.

   22. TDTim Dillon18:24

       ... that are donating because they are-... a, a, a radical activist that wants something that the American public thinks is crazy.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:32

       Right.

   24. TDTim Dillon18:32

       And biological men competing in women's sports is something most people think is crazy. And, and 13-year-olds getting, uh, puberty blocking hormones, 11-year-old, you know, all that stuff, most people think it's crazy. But they have to just kowtow to this donor base that is-

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:48

       Insane.

   26. TDTim Dillon18:48

       ... maniacal-

   27. JRJoe Rogan18:49

       Maniacal and insane.

   28. TDTim Dillon18:50

       ... and insane.

   29. JRJoe Rogan18:50

       Yeah. Yeah, it's all about money, right?

   30. TDTim Dillon18:52

       It's all about money. And they, it's the, the, the money guys are at least like, at least the billionaires will go, "I wanna build a casino," or, "I wanna do this, I wanna do that, I wanna pollute a lake." This isn't good, but you know where they're coming from. When you have these radical activists, they're-
9. 21:11 – 26:45

   Democrats’ coalition shift: elites, condescension, immigration, and Bernie’s sidelining

   1. TDTim Dillon21:11

      And they, they're just not, you know, I don't think they are... Nobody's pushing back in a way... Like, there's a lot of elitism and condescension that comes from the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party used to be a party of unions, of workers, of worker's rights.

   2. JRJoe Rogan21:27

      Mm-hmm.

   3. TDTim Dillon21:28

      And, and, and it was a, a party that my, people like my grandmother in, was in for years because she believed that people should be able to have healthcare, they should be able to have sick leave, or they should be able to have maternity care, whatever it is. But then it became a party dominated by kind of corporate elites, very wealthy donors, uh, Wall Street people, finance people, and also very radical fringe elements that are advocating policies that most Americans don't agree with. And then you, you cobble together that coalesce- that coalition of interest groups. And the only way that works is if you condescend to... Because you can't have these debates 'cause they lose them.

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:07

      Right.

   5. TDTim Dillon22:07

      They lose the debates.

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:08

      Right.

   7. TDTim Dillon22:08

      So you can't have them. So the way to shut down a debate is to tell people, "If you don't agree with me, you're racist."

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:12

      Mm-hmm.

   9. TDTim Dillon22:13

      "You're, uh, homophobic, transphobic, uh, you're an idiot, you're stupid."

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:17

       Right.

   11. TDTim Dillon22:17

       "You're not worthy of having this discussion," because they don't wanna have the discussion. Because if they wanted to have a debate about healthcare, that's a debate.

   12. JRJoe Rogan22:25

       Right.

   13. TDTim Dillon22:25

       People understand that. If they wanted to have a 'bate about like, debate about early childhood education, people understand that. But the things they're choosing to focus on, like having a wide open southern border, for example, benefits nobody.

   14. JRJoe Rogan22:38

       Right.

   15. TDTim Dillon22:38

       Truly. U- unless you are a billionaire, multimillionaire who wants to hire people and pay them less money. Um, it doesn't really even benefit the people that are coming into the country because they're working for wages that are far less. Um, and it certainly doesn't benefit Americans. But like, they don't wanna have that argument.

   16. JRJoe Rogan22:56

       Well, it benefits the people that are coming into the country 'cause they're coming from a place where they have fucking zero.

   17. TDTim Dillon23:01

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:01

       So if they work for very little-

   19. TDTim Dillon23:02

       Sure.

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:03

       ... they're happy, they got 10 people in a house.

   21. TDTim Dillon23:04

       Sure.

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:05

       They're not getting shot at every day.

   23. TDTim Dillon23:06

       But they, they're also m- much more likely to be taken advantage of than somebody who's a citizen.

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:11

       Right. For sure.

   25. TDTim Dillon23:12

       So they're not gonna unionize or they're not gonna, you know, be able to assert themselves at all.

   26. JRJoe Rogan23:17

       Right. That's the argument for offering these people amnesty. But the thing is like, you've gotta vet them. You gotta figure out who's a fucking criminal. Like, I'm all for letting poor people in-

   27. TDTim Dillon23:25

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan23:25

       ... that want a better life. But I, I'm not for, i- illegal workers.

   29. TDTim Dillon23:29

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan23:30

       Meaning like, I think those people should be paid what Americans are paid.
10. 26:45 – 31:01

    Media trust collapse: ‘joy’ messaging, Biden absence, Jill Biden, and the Hunter laptop suppression

    1. TDTim Dillon26:45

       You know, and then Kamala Harris, God bless, but this woman is running on a platform of joy.

    2. JRJoe Rogan26:52

       Joy is important.

    3. TDTim Dillon26:53

       Joy is the- is the policy. The policy is joy.

    4. JRJoe Rogan26:56

       I want to take what she's taking where you're laughing all the time.

    5. TDTim Dillon26:59

       The plat-

    6. JRJoe Rogan26:59

       That sounds like fun.

    7. TDTim Dillon26:59

       The platform is joy.

    8. JRJoe Rogan27:02

       (laughs)

    9. TDTim Dillon27:03

       And- and there's people right now that can't feed their kids that are immiserated for- to whatever- you know, for whatever reason they- they're- they're not doing well and they- they don't have healthcare and she goes, "Be joyful," and our joy is our wor... It's, like, crazy. It's, like, fully insane. And I- I don't understand who that connects with.

    10. JRJoe Rogan27:21

        Well, it's completely manufactured, right?

    11. TDTim Dillon27:24

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan27:24

        The whole thing is manufactured by the media and by whoever is running the country. Whoever's running the country, by the way, you're doing a great job considering there's no president.

    13. TDTim Dillon27:34

        Right.

    14. JRJoe Rogan27:34

        We've had no president for months.

    15. TDTim Dillon27:36

        That's right.

    16. JRJoe Rogan27:36

        Okay? Kamala Harris-

    17. TDTim Dillon27:38

        Well, months? Maybe years.

    18. JRJoe Rogan27:39

        Sure. But Kamala Harris has been campaigning. She has no time to be president.

    19. TDTim Dillon27:43

        That's right.

    20. JRJoe Rogan27:43

        Joe Biden is gone.

    21. TDTim Dillon27:45

        Right.

    22. JRJoe Rogan27:45

        Every now and then, somehow or another, they let him wander over to a microphone.

    23. TDTim Dillon27:48

        Yes.

    24. JRJoe Rogan27:49

        And he says wild shit like, "I'd like to take these Republicans and smack them in the ass."

    25. TDTim Dillon27:53

        And he asks... Yeah, and then he-

    26. JRJoe Rogan27:53

        And then he puts a MAGA hat on. He's getting fun, by the way. I voted for him today. I still support him. And because he's fun now. He clearly wants Trump to win. He hates her. Yeah.

    27. TDTim Dillon28:05

        And he never liked the Obamas. This is well-known.

    28. JRJoe Rogan28:08

        Well, Jack pos-... How do you say his name?

    29. TDTim Dillon28:10

        Posobiec.

    30. JRJoe Rogan28:10

        Pos- Posobiec?
11. 31:01 – 37:14

    Google search bias demo and the wider ‘machine’ of narrative control

    1. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       Well, Google's doing that right now. You know? Have you ever seen-

    2. TDTim Dillon31:04

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       ... the Robert Epstein work, Robert Epstein's work? Robert Epstein has, uh, compiled, like, all-

    4. TDTim Dillon31:10

       Yeah. I'm familiar with a different Epstein's work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, different one.

    5. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       ... of the... Ephemeral, um, interactions-

    6. TDTim Dillon31:15

       Okay.

    7. JRJoe Rogan31:16

       ... with Google, like Google search engine results and, uh, what you're, uh, what you're shown on your homepage of Google News-

    8. TDTim Dillon31:22

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       ... and, and how it in- influences people.

    10. TDTim Dillon31:24

        Right.

    11. JRJoe Rogan31:25

        And how you can sway undecideds, like, in a significant way.

    12. TDTim Dillon31:30

        Right.

    13. JRJoe Rogan31:30

        Towards one candidate or the other-

    14. TDTim Dillon31:32

        Sure.

    15. JRJoe Rogan31:32

        ... depending upon the search results. But one thing that people are pointing out on Twitter today... Jamie, let's see if we could replicate it. Why don't you google, "Where can I vote for Trump?" Now, if you google, "Where can I vote for Trump?" Let's see what it says, 'cause people... I'll, I'll show you what I saw people posting. It's mostly Harris stuff. "Where can I vote for Trump?" Okay, so here it is. "Where can I vote for Harris?"

    16. TDTim Dillon31:55

        Look at that.

    17. JRJoe Rogan31:55

        By the way, right away.

    18. TDTim Dillon31:56

        The first article is Esquire, "There's only one reason anyone votes for Trump."

    19. JRJoe Rogan32:00

        Right.

    20. TDTim Dillon32:00

        It's just hilarious.

    21. JRJoe Rogan32:00

        Yeah.

    22. TDTim Dillon32:01

        It's like, that's the...

    23. JRJoe Rogan32:02

        So you don't see this. Google... Hold on. Slow down, slow down. "Google admits Trump-Harris search for discrepancy," says fix is coming. Uh, I don't know what the fuck that means. Um, but look at the bottom. So you googled, "Where to vote for Trump?" Scroll down a little bit. Scroll down a little bit more. Um, "Where can I..." Google search, "Where can I vote for Harris?" shows-

    24. TDTim Dillon32:25

        Right.

    25. JRJoe Rogan32:25

        ... a new conspiracy theory has taken root in US election. Click on that, the variety thing. So this is it. "Where can I vote f-" Uh, "'Where can I vote for Harris?' showed a map while similar Trump search didn't." So you vo- googled, "Where can I vote for Trump?" It didn't show the map. Now let's google, "Where can I vote for Harris?" Let's see what happens. Vote centers.

    26. TDTim Dillon32:49

        You just-

    27. JRJoe Rogan32:49

        Vote centers.

    28. TDTim Dillon32:49

        You just voted for her.

    29. JRJoe Rogan32:50

        Vote centers.

    30. TDTim Dillon32:51

        By the way, that's counted as a vote.
12. 37:14 – 1:09:00

    Election integrity: ‘shenanigans,’ 2020 doubts, and the Trump assassination attempt as a deep-state Rorschach

    1. TDTim Dillon37:14

       So, I don't want to upset you. But, no, I mean, do you, do you think it's going... 'cause me and you talked about this. I think it will be decided tonight. But you think maybe not.

    2. JRJoe Rogan37:26

       No.

    3. TDTim Dillon37:27

       Okay.

    4. JRJoe Rogan37:27

       Not if it's close.

    5. TDTim Dillon37:28

       Interesting.

    6. JRJoe Rogan37:29

       I think that's when shenanigans take place.

    7. TDTim Dillon37:31

       Shenanigans.

    8. JRJoe Rogan37:32

       If shenanigans are real-

    9. TDTim Dillon37:34

       Uh, yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan37:34

        ... okay, if there's, is the really, there's manipulation, manipulation will take place at four o'clock in the morning.

    11. TDTim Dillon37:40

        Interesting.

    12. JRJoe Rogan37:41

        Don't you think?

    13. TDTim Dillon37:42

        Well-

    14. JRJoe Rogan37:42

        Don't you think that's when ballots show up? I mean, if you're gonna cheat-

    15. TDTim Dillon37:45

        Here's the deal-

    16. JRJoe Rogan37:46

        ... on both sides.

    17. TDTim Dillon37:46

        ... my grandmother-

    18. JRJoe Rogan37:47

        I'm not accusing any side.

    19. TDTim Dillon37:47

        ... my grandmother died in 2017. She was a big Democrat.

    20. JRJoe Rogan37:50

        She been voting lately?

    21. TDTim Dillon37:51

        And she voted six times for Kamala Harris.

    22. JRJoe Rogan37:54

        (laughs)

    23. TDTim Dillon37:54

        And if you think that's wrong, that's disgusting.

    24. JRJoe Rogan37:56

        (laughs)

    25. TDTim Dillon37:57

        I don't know what to tell you.

    26. JRJoe Rogan37:58

        That's who she would have voted for.

    27. TDTim Dillon37:59

        She probably would have, yeah, of course.

    28. JRJoe Rogan38:00

        So, in her honor.

    29. TDTim Dillon38:01

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan38:02

        In her honor, vote for her.
13. 1:09:00 – 1:09:46

    Power, blackmail, and DC nightlife: from Lindsey Graham to ‘Eyes Wide Shut’ politics

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:09:00

       I'm thinking about running.

    2. TDTim Dillon1:09:01

       Oh, it's a lot of fun.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:09:01

       What do you think I should be, a congressperson? That would probably be easy.

    4. TDTim Dillon1:09:04

       You can't... You gotta go governor.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:09:06

       Governor?

    6. TDTim Dillon1:09:06

       Executive.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:09:07

       What state? Let me get a fucked up state.

    8. TDTim Dillon1:09:08

       Well, do this. Who would you live in it?

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:09:09

       No, I would never g- run against Abbott. I love that guy. How about-

    10. TDTim Dillon1:09:13

        See? Right, uh, right then and there you can't. It's, you're not cut out for it.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:09:16

        Yeah, I gotta move somewhere.

    12. TDTim Dillon1:09:17

        You're not cut out for it.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:09:17

        Now I am, I am. I'll do it a different way. I'ma, I gotta move somewhere fucked up.

    14. TDTim Dillon1:09:21

        Utah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:09:21

        Utah.

    16. TDTim Dillon1:09:22

        Utah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:09:22

        Uh, maybe I'm a Mormon.

    18. TDTim Dillon1:09:22

        You could, you could do Park City.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:09:24

        I'll become a Mormon, and move to Utah.

    20. TDTim Dillon1:09:25

        I would have a lot of fun. I think about it 'cause I like DC, and I think it might be fun for a few weeks to be, like, a press secretary. That would be great.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:09:32

        I bet those people party.

    22. TDTim Dillon1:09:34

        They p- Of course they party.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:09:35

        I bet they party hard. I bet-

    24. TDTim Dillon1:09:37

        They party in ways that are probably too hard.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:09:39

        You know, did I tell you the one night-

    26. TDTim Dillon1:09:41

        (laughs)

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:09:41

        ... where I, I went out-

    28. TDTim Dillon1:09:41

        I think there's documentaries about how hard they party.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:09:43

        Oh, but did I tell you one night that I went out with Dave Chappelle in Denver?

Episode duration: 3:08:44