Joe Rogan Experience #2225 - Dave Smith

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. (drumbeats)

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

   3. DSDave Smith0:12

      And I couldn't, even after we got off the phone last night-

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      You good?

   5. DSDave Smith0:14

      ... I was like, "I'm gonna go to bed now."

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      I couldn't get either.

   7. DSDave Smith0:16

      And then I just had to watch clips of-

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      What time did I call you, like 3:00?

   9. DSDave Smith0:19

      3:30, something like that.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       Yeah, I was just sitting in front of YouTube watching professional pool on TV going-

   11. DSDave Smith0:25

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       ... "What the fuck is going on?" So turns out voting works. It's real. As much as we (laughs) fucking thought they had it rigged, as much as we thought there was shenanigans and bullshit and it's just a, a puppet show and there's no way anybody could buck the system, turns out voting is still real.

   13. DSDave Smith0:46

       At least partially.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       At least if it's too big to rig.

   15. DSDave Smith0:48

       Yes.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       And clearly he was too big to rig.

   17. DSDave Smith0:51

       Yeah. Wasn't it... It, it was crazy because it was like for, for weeks, especially in the close of the campaign, it was one of those things where it felt like... It, it almost felt like, uh, 2008 when Obama was running against McCain and it was just so obvious Obama was running away with this. Everything you could see and, and observe, his crowd sizes, the enthusiasm, the culture, it was all behind him. But at that time, the polls were reflecting what you saw everywhere. Obama's up big. He's about to... John McCain's not gonna win after eight years of George W. Bush. The country doesn't want another war hawk. They want this, you know, articulate young peace guy.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:30

       Right.

   19. DSDave Smith1:30

       And it was like that with Trump where it's like all the signs are that he's clearly running away with this, but then every single poll told you no, this is the closest election of your lifetime. And then it was just... There was a very interesting feeling to see it and be like, "Oh, okay. I'm not crazy. I was observing all the things I was observing."

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:47

       Do you know what, what Trump told me about the polls?

   21. DSDave Smith1:50

       No. What?

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       He's like, "They're bullshit."

   23. DSDave Smith1:52

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:52

       "They don't do anything. You give them money-"

   25. DSDave Smith1:55

       Oh yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:55

       "... they come back, they have these results you don't know."

   27. DSDave Smith1:57

       He was like, "They charge 500 grand-"

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:59

       Who are they talking to? Yeah.

   29. DSDave Smith2:00

       For... Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:00

       Yeah.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Ah! …

   1. DSDave Smith15:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Ah!

   3. DSDave Smith15:01

      It was just so great.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      Well, that's like a Chael Sonnen move.

   5. DSDave Smith15:03

      Uh, yeah, it was just, it was amazing.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      (laughs) It's so funny.

   7. DSDave Smith15:05

      Amazing. But he said, uh-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      (laughs)

   9. DSDave Smith15:07

      ... Lindsey Graham was asked about being the first single president.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       Yeah, never married, no kids.

   11. DSDave Smith15:12

       And he goes, uh, he goes, he goes, "There might be a bunch of different first ladies if I was in there." You're like, "No."

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:18

       Right. Yeah, sure, buddy. First of all, that's the last thing you say-

   13. DSDave Smith15:22

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       ... if you're a man and you're heterosexual. You say, "I'm trying to find a good woman."

   15. DSDave Smith15:26

       Yeah, really.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       "I'm trying to just find one good woman that I can grow with and that I love with all my heart. Just one good woman. I know that she's out there."

   17. DSDave Smith15:34

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       That's what you say.

   19. DSDave Smith15:35

       Yeah. You don't-

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       "Might be a bunch of first ladies. I'm gonna get divorced, married, and divorced and married and keep on scooping up them minerals in the Ukraine."

   21. DSDave Smith15:43

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       "I gotta give those minerals to the Russians." We're just walking around with women's panties on and shit and high heels. (laughs)

   23. DSDave Smith15:51

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       I'm the president.

   25. DSDave Smith15:55

       I mean, listen, I wouldn't-

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       I'm wear- I'm the first lady too. I'm gonna wear her clothes.

   27. DSDave Smith15:58

       I typically wouldn't go after someone for that, but when you're a war, a war hawk all-

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       Yeah.

   29. DSDave Smith16:02

       ... all is fair. But he's just gotta-

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       He's sc-
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Ah, she probably loves…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      But somewhere, saw Kill Tony.

   2. DSDave Smith30:03

      Ah, she probably loves it. They're all so funny.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      I wonder who... Let's call him up.

   4. NANarrator30:08

      Huh.

   5. DSDave Smith30:08

      All right. Let's get to the bottom of it. Wait, we have access?

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      Call Tony Hinchcliffe. (laughs)

   7. NANarrator30:17

      (laughs) . Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:19

      Hey, dude. You're live, you're live on the air right now with Dave Smith. I need to answer a question.

   9. NANarrator30:24

      What's up?

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       I need a question answered. Did AOC ever come to see Kill Tony?

   11. NANarrator30:29

       She says that she did, but we're almost positive that she didn't. I never met her in any of the shows in LA. I mean, she could have conceivably have bought a ticket to Madison Square Garden, but she never posted about it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       Well, she probably-

   13. NANarrator30:43

       She never-

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       ... wouldn't post about it, it's too sketchy. Your, your show is sketchy.

   15. NANarrator30:47

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       But so, how do you know that-

   17. NANarrator30:48

       (laughs) .

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:48

       ... she says that she was there?

   19. NANarrator30:51

       She tweeted that she's been to a taping. When all that stuff went down, she said that she's disappointed in me.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       (laughs)

   21. NANarrator30:59

       And she's been to a taping. I can't remember the exact tweet right now. But it was the day of the, day of the Madison Square Garden Trump thing. She posted, "I'm really disappointed in Tony Hinchcliffe. I'm a fan of Kill Tony and been to a taping."

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       (laughs)

   23. NANarrator31:14

       Something like that. I don't wanna misquote her, like she would certainly do to me.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:19

       (laughs)

   25. DSDave Smith31:22

       But she's been there and she was surprised? It makes no sense.

   26. NANarrator31:27

       She... Yeah. No, nothing these people fucking say make any sense. They're out of their goddamn minds and now their voices are quieted, thank God.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:37

       Tony, America's back, baby.

   28. DSDave Smith31:40

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:40

       America is back.

   30. NANarrator31:41

       I can't believe it. Let's, let's fucking go.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      the people that did the illegal things wanna continue doing ill- illegal things, and don't wanna have any repercussions for doing illegal things, that seems like a crazy thing to support. Even for them to defend it-

   2. DSDave Smith45:10

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:10

      ... sounds insane. They should want internal accountability. They should wanna make sure that no one colors outside the lines, and no one does anything without congressional approval. All the stuff you're supposed to do when you're doing certain things. But the problem is now with the, uh, the FDAA and FISA, and all these different laws that have been passed that allow surveillance to be done warrantless, like, it's kind of a moot point almost at this point. Like, the things that you... Like, back then, he exposed that they could listen to every calls, the, the, they, they have data centers.

   4. DSDave Smith45:45

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:45

      We all know that now. Like, it, he's, it's... Everything's still functioning, but we all know that now. The guy that exposed all that, leave him alone.

   6. DSDave Smith45:54

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:54

      You guys were... You're doing illegal shit, and now it's kind of legal, and we still should be outraged, but now you can kind of just do it.

   8. DSDave Smith46:00

      Yeah. Well, a- and, and also, and one of the things that was so disappointing about Trump not pardoning Julian Assange and Snowden in his first term... And, and again, a lot of that is because it's like when... He told you. When... Why didn't he release the, the JFK files? Well, because he was listening to Liz Cheney's pick for defense secretary-

   9. JRJoe Rogan46:20

      Yeah. But also-

   10. DSDave Smith46:20

       ... Mike Pompeo.

   11. JRJoe Rogan46:21

       ... he was saying-

   12. DSDave Smith46:22

       And he was... People convinced him-

   13. JRJoe Rogan46:22

       Yeah.

   14. DSDave Smith46:22

       ... not to do it. But it's like, at a certain point, you're like, okay, first of all, the spying that Snowden exposed was weaponized against you.

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:33

       Right.

   16. DSDave Smith46:33

       Like, they spied on you. So, you kind of... I would think you have some, like, stake in being like, "Yeah, that should be exposed and, and should be abolished."

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:41

       But don't you think he didn't pardon him because he wanted a second term, and he wanted to, like-

   18. DSDave Smith46:45

       Yeah. I think that was part of it. Yes.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:46

       ... make things run as smoothly as possibly, and try to-

   20. DSDave Smith46:50

       The thing is, he also-

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:50

       ... make... They're compromising. They're making deals here.

   22. DSDave Smith46:52

       Yes, but he also had a lame duck period. I mean, he had-

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:55

       Right.

   24. DSDave Smith46:55

       ... a period where he knew he wasn't gonna have-

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:57

       Right. But, but-

   26. DSDave Smith46:57

       ... a second term and still have the power, but he was-

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:59

       But-

   28. DSDave Smith46:59

       ... worried about the impeachment.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:00

       And he wanted to run again.

   30. DSDave Smith47:02

       Yes. Yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:09:51

   Just settle down. …

   1. DSDave Smith1:00:00

      recogni-... Like, look, we're in a new landscape here and there are these shows on the internet that have much bigger audiences than these traditional shows. Oh, and by the way, I get to go long and I can really do, give an in-depth, you know, like, uh, uh, point on, on every single topic. And dude, I mean, Trump coming on here and her refusing to, th- this is... I mean, dude, you kind of put Donald Trump in the White House (laughs) .

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

      Just settle down.

   3. DSDave Smith1:00:26

      Like, this is amazing.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

      Settle down. People are listening.

   5. DSDave Smith1:00:29

      Everyone's thinking it.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

      Well, for sure him getting to be himself and just have a conversation with someone who's not being hostile.

   7. DSDave Smith1:00:37

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

      You know? And I did ask him questions that I wanted answers to, like this proof that he lost in 2020. He did not provide me with that. And I've said, and I, we talked about it in depth yesterday, that if I was accused of, uh, d- election denying, which election denial, it's like-... the, there's holocaust deniers, number one. And then there's maybe-

   9. DSDave Smith1:00:59

      Climate.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

       ... a vaccine denier and, and election denier. Election denier's probably a little higher than vaccine denier. You could be a kook and a vaccine denier, but still believe that Donald Trump lost the election. But a election denier, you're cast out of the kingdom. There's a couple other ones that go underneath that, but those are the big ones. Those are the big ones. And you get put into a box, like, instantaneously. If I was put in that box, I would have responses to every question. I would say, "Well, in Georgia, there was buh-buh-buh-buh-buh, ballots that were buh-buh-buh. This was, this would've been, these, these people were dead. These people, they, they should have never been voting in the first place. They were not, uh, United States citizens." I'd have all the information ready to fire and he didn't. He was like, "There's books that tell you that..." I have the suspicion that he's, his, he's way busier than me, and I can barely pay attention to things.

   11. DSDave Smith1:01:47

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:01:47

       Sometimes I agree to do things. My wife tells me we're gonna do something, "What are we talking about?"

   13. DSDave Smith1:01:51

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:51

       She goes, "You said yes to it yesterday." "I did? When?"

   15. DSDave Smith1:01:53

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:54

       "You were making coffee." "I wasn't paying attention. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Where are we going?" You know, but that's just normal life stuff, right? This guy is literally running for fucking president. He's got what? All these golf courses everywhere and businesses everywhere and Mar-a-Lago and fucking family. There's-

   17. DSDave Smith1:02:10

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:02:10

       ... millions of things. So, probably they told him the election was stolen. He told me, "Find the results, find it. Let's get it overturned. These fucking criminals..." I don't know how much he really looked into it. I don't know. I know, I don't know how much he studied it, 'cause h- I w-

   19. DSDave Smith1:02:25

       He didn't really have an answer for you.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:02:26

       I would want you to regurgitate it fact by fact. And I think Vivek could do that. If you a- ask Vivek a question about that, if you ask JD Vance a question about that, I bet if they were accused, they would be able to rattle off all those numbers and statistics.

   21. DSDave Smith1:02:40

       Uh, I, I think that Vivek probably wouldn't make the claim exactly in the same way that Donald Trump does.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:02:45

       Right. No, I'm saying if he was accused.

   23. DSDave Smith1:02:46

       Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:02:47

       If he was accused.

   25. DSDave Smith1:02:48

       Um, well, yeah. No, Vivek isn't gonna say anything without having-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:02:51

       100%.

   27. DSDave Smith1:02:51

       ... like, a detailed answer to it.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:52

       Nor is-

   29. DSDave Smith1:02:52

       And that's not Trump. That's not-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:54

       Nor is JD.

Episode duration: 2:58:37