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75 min read · 15,003 wordsShirt talk and conspiracy riffing: Epstein, Diddy, and “keeping it on the DL”
Narrator 0:00 (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.
Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Can I see your shirt?
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:14 Of course.
Joe Rogan 0:14 It's pretty tight. (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:16 Is it tight, you mean?
Joe Rogan 0:17 No, no, nice.
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:17 Oh, okay.
Joe Rogan 0:17 Like, tight.
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:18 Nice.
Joe Rogan 0:19 Nice.
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:21 I feel like they're gonna sue me.
Joe Rogan 0:23 For the shirt?
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:24 I don't know.
Joe Rogan 0:24 Did you sell it?
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:25 I'm trying to.
Joe Rogan 0:26 I don't think they wanna sue anybody.
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:28 No?
Joe Rogan 0:28 I think they wanna keep it on the DL, especially you, 'cause you could just go on podcasts and talk about it.
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:32 Not if I'm dead.
Joe Rogan 0:34 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:35 (laughs) I could talk about it til I'm dead.
Joe Rogan 0:37 Let's see, if they, if they haven't killed, there's so many p- ... If they haven't killed Malice, if they haven't... There's so many people that they haven't killed.
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:44 I'd be a fun kill, though. They just-
Joe Rogan 0:46 Just whacked you out of nowhere.
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:47 Come to the Bronx. It's like so easy to just kill me.
Joe Rogan 0:50 Right. Anybody gets killed in the Bronx.
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:51 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 0:51 Happens all the time.
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:53 And nobody cares.
Joe Rogan 0:54 Yeah, probably.
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:56 They don't care.
Joe Rogan 0:56 A few people would be upset, and then it would go away.
Adrienne Iapalucci 0:59 My mom.
Joe Rogan 0:59 Like, uh, Epstein. Like-
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01 Yes.
Joe Rogan 1:01 That kinda went away.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02 It did go away.
Joe Rogan 1:03 The guy who tried to kill Trump, kinda went away.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06 It did. Well, didn't that guy get shot, though?
Joe Rogan 1:08 Yeah, he's dead.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:09 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:09 But now he's gone. Poof, gone. No one talks about it.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:12 Do you think P. Diddy is in prison waiting for the Clintons to just kill him?
Joe Rogan 1:17 Do you think-
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:17 Every day I'd be w- looking for them.
Joe Rogan 1:19 I don't think the Clintons were involved with P. Diddy, do you?
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:22 No, but Epstein.
Joe Rogan 1:24 Were the Clin- Was Epstein involved with P. Diddy?
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:26 No, I just feel like these pedophile rings have to cross points at, you know-
Joe Rogan 1:29 Hmm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:30 ... at some point.
Joe Rogan 1:31 The P. Diddy thing sounds like just complete unchecked depravity, like I don't even think he was gay. He was just fucking guys.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:41 But-
Joe Rogan 1:41 He might, maybe he's gay, but it seems-
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:43 I think it-
Joe Rogan 1:43 ... he's just depraved.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:43 I think you have to be a little gay, 'cause then he would just be fucking women.
Joe Rogan 1:46 Oh yeah, for sure, at least for like 10 minutes.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:48 (laughs) He's a- he's at least bi.
Joe Rogan 1:51 (laughs) Well, I mean, may- it might just be whatever drugs they're taking. Like I don't understand it. When that whole, like ... I, I think I had peripherally heard that P. Diddy had big parties.
Adrienne Iapalucci 2:04 Right.
Joe Rogan 2:04 But I never heard of freak-offs or any ... I never heard-
Adrienne Iapalucci 2:07 I never had any there.
Joe Rogan 2:08 ... of that stuff until pretty recently, like post-pandemic, I think. Jamie, when'd you hear, first hear about like P. Diddy parties?
Narrator 2:17 Uh, my mic's off.
Joe Rogan 2:19 Oh.
Adrienne Iapalucci 2:19 I mean, I would think that he ... I've heard about him having big parties.
Joe Rogan 2:21 Your mic has to be off because of Carl's breathing. (laughs)
Narrator 2:24 Breathing pretty heavy still right now. Just trying to keep it down.
Adrienne Iapalucci 2:26 Oh my God, he's so cute.
Joe Rogan 2:27 He's adorable. Carl and Marshall, they, they go at it every time he comes here.
Narrator 2:32 Uh, first time I heard, I don't know. I've heard of ... I don't even know what rumors I would've heard. I just heard p- like, you know-
Joe Rogan 2:37 But it was not-
Narrator 2:37 ... he used to have crazy parties. I didn't hear nothing.
Joe Rogan 2:39 Yeah. It was never like in the zeitgeist. It was never-
Narrator 2:42 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 2:42 It's just weird too, 'cause he always had the white parties where you have to wear all white, and I just feel like that's-
Joe Rogan 2:46 Hmm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 2:46 ... the worst color for body fluid.
Joe Rogan 2:49 Ew. Yeah. Right?
Adrienne Iapalucci 2:50 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 2:50 Just shit and blood.
Adrienne Iapalucci 2:51 Maybe that's how he kept track of who he, who he fucked.
Joe Rogan 2:54 Ugh.
Adrienne Iapalucci 2:54 He said, "That person's already gotten it."
Narrator 2:56 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 2:57 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 2:57 "That person's, that person's already covered in disgusting stuff." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 3:02 Oh my God.
Adrienne Iapalucci 3:02 "That's how he kept track of it."
Joe Rogan 3:03 There's so many horrific accusations though involving, uh, young singers, young, like children.
Adrienne Iapalucci 3:10 Yeah, it's disgusting. He-
Joe Rogan 3:11 It's insane.
Adrienne Iapalucci 3:12 He makes R. Kelly look like a decent guy.
Joe Rogan 3:15 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 3:16 It's so crazy.
Clintons, Hillary vs. Kamala, and what makes a good candidate
Joe Rogan 3:17 It is crazy. And meanwhile the guy was like hanging out with Oprah, hanging out with Obama.
Adrienne Iapalucci 3:24 Jay-Z. Everybody.
Joe Rogan 3:26 Everybody, everybody.
Adrienne Iapalucci 3:27 I'm sure the Clintons were there at some point.
Joe Rogan 3:29 Maybe Bill.
Adrienne Iapalucci 3:31 Bill is so nice.
Joe Rogan 3:31 "I went one time."
Narrator 3:33 Was he?
Adrienne Iapalucci 3:34 He's so ni- Like, when I met them-
Joe Rogan 3:35 So charming.
Adrienne Iapalucci 3:36 He is, and he's actually still kinda good-looking, like even for an-
Joe Rogan 3:39 You like him?
Adrienne Iapalucci 3:39 ... older dude.
Narrator 3:40 Yeah?
Adrienne Iapalucci 3:41 Yeah. Why not? He's still so good-looking, and she's just so miserable.
Joe Rogan 3:45 Well, she was publicly humiliated, and she thought that her big retribution would become president, you know, become president.
Adrienne Iapalucci 3:53 Sure.
Joe Rogan 3:54 And then that would be it, all water under the bridge. "I'm a strong woman. I'm running this country." And then America was like, "Nah."
Adrienne Iapalucci 4:01 I mean, it doesn't matter what color you are, America does not want a woman in charge. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 4:04 Well, that's not exactly true because she won the popular vote.
Adrienne Iapalucci 4:07 She d- I mean, not, uh, Kamala though.
Joe Rogan 4:10 No, but Kamala was a terrible candidate.
Adrienne Iapalucci 4:13 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 4:13 The difference between her and Hillary, it's night and day.
Adrienne Iapalucci 4:15 That's true. Well, Hillary had a lot of experience too. She's been doing this for a long time.
Joe Rogan 4:18 Sure. She was his st- Secretary of State, and on top of that, she could answer questions.
Adrienne Iapalucci 4:24 Sure.
Joe Rogan 4:24 Like you could have a qu- question on, w- with her about like, "What would we do differently if you were president about the Israel-Gaza conflict?"
Adrienne Iapalucci 4:32 Sure.
Joe Rogan 4:33 She would have something off the top of her head. "What would you do differently than Joe Biden?" She wouldn't say, "I can't think of a thing." She would never say that.
Adrienne Iapalucci 4:40 No.
Joe Rogan 4:41 Kamala Harris is just not good.
Adrienne Iapalucci 4:43 She's definitely not good at interviewing either.
Joe Rogan 4:45 No. I mean, I don't know if she's good at running things, 'cause you'd have to be behind the scenes to see how that works.
Adrienne Iapalucci 4:51 Sure.
Joe Rogan 4:51 But when it comes to like talking off the top of her head, she, what she's good at is a pre-rehearsed speech that she reads off a teleprompter.
Adrienne Iapalucci 5:01 Sure, but if someone-
Joe Rogan 5:02 Pretty solid.
Adrienne Iapalucci 5:02 ... asks you a rogue question, then you have to be ready to answer it.
Joe Rogan 5:05 Just don't. Yeah. When, rogue questions, like you have to be able to say what differentiates you b- from Biden. You have to. That's like a ... That's pretty simple.
Adrienne Iapalucci 5:15 Yeah. You're just like, "Well, I'm still alive."
Joe Rogan 5:17 Yeah. That too.
Adrienne Iapalucci 5:17 That's ... (laughs)
Joe Rogan 5:18 (laughs) That would be funny if she said that.
Adrienne Iapalucci 5:19 I'm st- Right. That's what she should do. If she could be funny, people love a funny person.
Joe Rogan 5:23 While I'm there, I can answer questions. I can look you in the eye.
Adrienne Iapalucci 5:25 Yeah. She could have just been funny.
Joe Rogan 5:26 I, I remember what I'm talking about. Yes.
Why Kamala didn’t do JRE: campaign chaos and marijuana questions
Adrienne Iapalucci 5:28 I was surprised she didn't come on the podcast a little bit.
Joe Rogan 5:31 It seems like, and this is all reports, these are all anecdotal reports, right? But it seems like her campaign was kind of chaotic, like no one could make a decision.
Adrienne Iapalucci 5:41 Hmm.
Joe Rogan 5:42 They had I don't know how many conversations with my folks.
Adrienne Iapalucci 5:46 Right.
Joe Rogan 5:47 But multiple conversations, giving different dates, different times, different this, different that. And we knew that she was going to be in Texas, so I said, "Open invitation."
Adrienne Iapalucci 5:56 Right. You said, "You can come whenever you want."
Joe Rogan 5:58 Yeah. "Anytime. You pick a time, I will be here."
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:01 And you would've been the best person for her to talk to 'cause you're not gonna attack her. You would just ask her questions, but that's the problem. I don't know if she'd be able to answer those questions.
Joe Rogan 6:08 I'll ask her a question, but th- I think they had requirements on things that she didn't wanna talk about. She didn't wanna talk about marijuana legalization, which I thought was hilarious.
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:15 Why?
Joe Rogan 6:16 Like that's so-... because of her prosecuting record.
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:19 Oh. Well, I mean, that is, like, p-... That was her old job, though.
Joe Rogan 6:22 Yeah. And, you know, she put a lot of people in jail for weed. 1,500, apparently.
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:28 That's not really that many, though.
Joe Rogan 6:29 Allegedly.
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:29 1,500.
Joe Rogan 6:30 I'll tell those guys. Those 1,500 together in a room...
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:33 Are they still, are they still in prison?
Joe Rogan 6:34 No.
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:34 Oh, okay.
Joe Rogan 6:35 I think they're lost their release.
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:35 Then they're fine now.
Joe Rogan 6:36 Well-
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:37 Prison really builds character.
Joe Rogan 6:38 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:39 You go in there, you really figure out what kind of person you are.
Prison labor, routines, and the psychology of forced work
Joe Rogan 6:43 (sighs) I bet it does. Yeah. But when you are, um, held past your release date to fight wildfires-
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:50 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 6:50 ... for the state, because Kamala Harris wants you to do that-
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:53 Sure.
Joe Rogan 6:53 ... with the swipe of my pen.
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:55 Right. You guys are... I mean, it's not, like-
Joe Rogan 6:57 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 6:57 ... the worst idea, to just clean up the wildfires.
Joe Rogan 7:01 Well, you should probably pay people for all work.
Adrienne Iapalucci 7:03 Sure.
Joe Rogan 7:04 You know? Even prisoners.
Adrienne Iapalucci 7:05 I'm like, that's just free.
Joe Rogan 7:06 (inhales deeply) Uh, I got a problem with all that. I mean, I have a problem with slave labor in prison, 'cause it's essentially mandated, r-
Adrienne Iapalucci 7:14 Right.
Joe Rogan 7:15 Like, you have to, you have to have a job in some prisons.
Adrienne Iapalucci 7:17 But I mean, what else are you gonna do in prison? Like, if you're not-
Joe Rogan 7:19 Read books, do push-ups.
Adrienne Iapalucci 7:20 Okay, but at some point, I'm gonna-
Joe Rogan 7:22 Not have someone tell you what to do.
Adrienne Iapalucci 7:22 If... I'm gonna wanna do hair, I'm gonna wanna cook at some point. Like, you just do need a routine. Otherwise, the time ne-... How many books can you read every single day?
Joe Rogan 7:30 That's true. That's true. Yeah. How many yoga classes can you take?
Adrienne Iapalucci 7:33 You just need a schedule, kind of, just to like... I don't know, that just helps your day go by. Like, even if you hated it, you would-
Joe Rogan 7:39 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 7:39 ... still need... Like, when I was on unemployment for a period, I'm like, "I'm actually very bored." You know what I mean? Like, you, you like it for a couple of days, but you need that routine to kind of, like... I don't know. I w- if I was in prison, I'd want a job.
Sponsor break then automation anxiety: AI, UBI, and purpose
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Adrienne Iapalucci 10:05 For sure.
Joe Rogan 10:05 They need an identity. And a lot of people identify with whatever their job is. You know, they, they find... They take pride in it. It means something to them to show up at work and have people say they do a great job, and, "You're very valuable to the company." And you, you know, the customers like you. And all that stuff is really good for people. It's good for self-esteem, it's good for giving you a purpose. If, if universal basic income is a thing, which I think it's going to have to be a thing, it's gonna be real weird psychologically for people to adjust to that.
Riots, CVS loot stories, and sunscreen locked behind glass
Adrienne Iapalucci 10:34 I think there'd probably be a lot of riots. Like, I don't know, what else would you do?
Joe Rogan 10:37 L- just riot with government money. (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 10:40 Yeah, I was thinking Trump might not win and there was gonna be a bunch of riots, and I would be able to just get, like, a free computer. Like, I was kind of hoping for that.
Joe Rogan 10:48 Well, you know you could buy a computer anytime you want.
Adrienne Iapalucci 10:50 No, I want it for free.
Joe Rogan 10:50 Successful comedian.
Adrienne Iapalucci 10:51 Listen, a free computer is better than a computer you have to pay for.
Joe Rogan 10:54 Is it?
Adrienne Iapalucci 10:55 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 10:55 Wouldn't you feel guilty at all?
Adrienne Iapalucci 10:57 No, if they're rioting? Everything's for free.
Joe Rogan 11:00 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:00 That's the rule.
Joe Rogan 11:01 (laughs) That was the rule during George Floyd.
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:03 But that's what I'm saying. During Black Lives Matter, I lived by a CVS that was, like, getting broken into all the time. I have, like, shampoo and conditioner for years.
Joe Rogan 11:10 Did you go in there?
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:11 Yeah, why not? I was in there when it was happening. I was like, "Well-"
Joe Rogan 11:13 You're gonna get arrested. Shh.
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:14 How?
Joe Rogan 11:14 Don't say that.
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:15 No.
Joe Rogan 11:16 These are all jokes, right?
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:18 Wink. They're all jokes.
Joe Rogan 11:18 Wink is all eyes.
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:19 Listen, I was just supporting Black Lives Matter, and that's how you do it.
Joe Rogan 11:22 That's how you do it. You get shampoo for free.
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:23 Shampoo and conditioner.
Joe Rogan 11:24 Yeah. The most racist thing I ever saw was a CVS that had everything locked up except sunscreen.
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:30 I mean, that's pretty much how it is in every CVS.
Joe Rogan 11:34 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:36 (laughs) And why people don't buy sunscreen, 'cause we wanna be dark.
Joe Rogan 11:38 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:39 So, no one's, no one's stealing it or buying it.
Joe Rogan 11:41 Yeah. Good p- good call. The... Well, they do if they're worried about cancer, if you're one of those people. Puts it everywhere, all over your face. Mea- you, meanwhile you're putting toxic chemicals all over your face.
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:52 People do that-
Joe Rogan 11:53 To protect yourself from cancer.
Adrienne Iapalucci 11:53 ... when they're, like, smoking cigarettes. It's like, what are you doing? Just get cancer.
Sunlight, vitamin D, and a detour into horny wordplay
Joe Rogan 11:56 Well, I was reading this thing where they were talking about that... See if you can find this. So, what this person was saying was that people who spend less time in the sun are more likely to get deadly skin cancer.
Adrienne Iapalucci 12:13 Is it 'cause your body's not used to it yet or... Yeah.
Joe Rogan 12:16 Uh, yeah, you get cooked. You know, your body doesn't have any melanin, so you go out there and you get, like, fucking burnt to death, and your body develops cancers. But also you're not... You don't have vitamin D.
Adrienne Iapalucci 12:27 Right.
Joe Rogan 12:27 So, vitamin D is like a critical hormone. It protects you from a lot of things. It's, it's...... it's crucial for your immune system. It's crucial for a lot of different functions.
Adrienne Iapalucci 12:37 It's also interesting, because one time we were at the cellar and Louie kept telling me that I needed vitamin D because I'm so white. And I was just like, "Vitamin, is that a real thing?"
Joe Rogan 12:45 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 12:45 It just sounds like dick. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 12:48 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 12:48 Vitamin, I was like, "Wait, what?"
Joe Rogan 12:49 Yeah, you need vitamin D. (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 12:51 I was like, "Is that like a real thing?" (laughs)
Joe Rogan 12:52 Yeah, you're so white, you need some vitamin D. (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 12:55 So you need to get fucked by somebody. That's gonna help you out.
Joe Rogan 12:57 That's the only thing that's gonna help you.
Adrienne Iapalucci 12:59 That's the only thing that's gonna keep me alive?
Joe Rogan 13:00 Imagine if that was true. Imagine if like the only way you can maintain health is to get fucked.
Adrienne Iapalucci 13:07 I mean, it makes sense. People that are homeless are just like fingering themselves all the time. There must be something to it.
Joe Rogan 13:12 I think they're mentally ill.
Adrienne Iapalucci 13:13 Sure, but they also are like, "I want to stay alive."
Joe Rogan 13:16 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 13:16 "I want to stay, I want to prolong this homelessness." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 13:20 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 13:20 "Keep me alive as long as we can."
Joe Rogan 13:22 Th- there's a book I read, Fingering Yourself for Health. (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 13:24 I mean, all of the homeless people on 6th Street, they're just like fingering themselves constantly.
Joe Rogan 13:28 Yeah, there's a lot of that kind of activity-
Adrienne Iapalucci 13:30 Yeah.
Homelessness, despair, and why CEOs aren’t the model life
Joe Rogan 13:30 ... with the ho- homeless pe- ... Oh, I think they just give up on shame, on everything, and they just-
Adrienne Iapalucci 13:35 I think you're out of your mind.
Joe Rogan 13:36 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 13:36 You have to be out of your mind.
Joe Rogan 13:37 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 13:37 Where you're like, "Who cares?"
Joe Rogan 13:38 There's this poor lady on 6th Street, there's a gas station that I only go to if everything's gone totally wrong and I need gas, for sure.
Adrienne Iapalucci 13:46 You just run out of it. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 13:47 But you're like, you're there, you get out of your car, you're ready to fight people. It's a sketchy gas station.
Adrienne Iapalucci 13:52 Oh, I guess.
Joe Rogan 13:52 And there's this poor lady who her head, instead of being like here, her head is like, it's like it's broken, her neck is broken.
Adrienne Iapalucci 14:02 Okay.
Joe Rogan 14:02 And so her head is like down here, and she, she has to look at you like this. She can't lift her chin o- off of her sternum. Like literally, down like this, and she's just a bag of bones, just barely alive.
Adrienne Iapalucci 14:16 Like, o- okay, obviously we're not gonna help homeless people, like there's no money in helping poor people. Like let's give them all fentanyl, clean up the streets-
Joe Rogan 14:24 Ugh.
Adrienne Iapalucci 14:24 ... do the kindest thing we can for them.
Joe Rogan 14:26 Odium?
Adrienne Iapalucci 14:27 Yeah. If I'm on the street for longer than a week, please kill me. It's not going well.
Joe Rogan 14:31 Some people have recovered. There's people who've gotten their shit together.
Adrienne Iapalucci 14:34 How many?
Joe Rogan 14:35 I don't know.
Adrienne Iapalucci 14:36 How many CEOs were like, "I was on the street-"
Joe Rogan 14:38 (laughs) Zero CEOs.
Adrienne Iapalucci 14:40 "... for years. And then I got some vitamin D. I turned it off." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 14:42 Well, how many CEOs enjoy life? That's the real question. I, just because something's difficult to do doesn't mean it's good to do. Right?
Adrienne Iapalucci 14:51 Sure.
Joe Rogan 14:52 Like some people think that becoming extremely wealthy and running a major corporation, because it's difficult to do, that's something you should aspire to. But those guys all die young. They all have heart attacks and strokes.
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:05 Yeah, it's a very high stress position.
Joe Rogan 15:06 Insanely high stress.
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:07 I would like-
Joe Rogan 15:07 And the hours are insane, and you're probably fucking miserable, other than the time you're doing coke and banging strippers.
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:14 Right. I think I would like the rich part, and then I would just do something with like animals.
Joe Rogan 15:19 Oh. There you go.
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:20 Yeah, I love animals.
Joe Rogan 15:21 Yeah, I know you do.
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:21 People forget.
Joe Rogan 15:22 I can tell.
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:22 But like-
Joe Rogan 15:23 Well, I brought Marshall just for you.
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:24 I mean, Marshall is so beautiful. Like if I ever go bald, I told you I want like a wig.
Joe Rogan 15:29 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:29 I don't know how white women are now just wearing golden retrievers wigs, because it's beautiful, his hair.
Joe Rogan 15:34 But it would stink when it gets wet.
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:36 I mean, everyone thinks white people smell anyway when they're wet.
Joe Rogan 15:38 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:39 Who gives a shit?
Joe Rogan 15:41 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:41 Like, you remember the first time you heard that black people thought white people smell like dogs?
Joe Rogan 15:44 I did not.
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:44 You're like, "We love dogs."
Joe Rogan 15:45 I have never heard that.
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:46 Oh, yeah.
Joe Rogan 15:47 Really?
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:47 They always think we smell like dogs.
Joe Rogan 15:49 Hmm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 15:49 It's like that's, try hurting my feelings.
Joe Rogan 15:51 Well, I guess if you're around dogs. I think human beings smell if they don't wash. That's all it is. Like I don't think there's a difference in the smell of black people and white people.
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:02 Maybe not.
Joe Rogan 16:02 And this is coming from someone who does jujitsu.
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:05 Sure, maybe not.
Joe Rogan 16:05 So I smell people like that close when their chest pressed up against my face. I've never noticed a difference in human odor.
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:13 All I know is black people think white people smell like dogs. Wet dogs, when they get wet.
Joe Rogan 16:17 Maybe that's just like a fun thing to say.
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:19 I think it's more than one black person saying it.
Joe Rogan 16:21 For real?
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:22 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 16:22 I've never heard ... Jim, you ever heard that?
Narrator 16:24 Nope.
Joe Rogan 16:24 Jimmy never heard it.
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:25 I only hang out with other black people.
Joe Rogan 16:25 Maybe they're only saying it to you.
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:27 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 16:28 Weird.
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:28 I'm like, that doesn't hurt my feelings. I love dogs.
Joe Rogan 16:30 Yeah, dogs are great.
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:31 They're amazing.
Joe Rogan 16:32 If you're gonna smell like an animal, I mean, that's not the worst one to smell like. Cats are kind of crazy, 'cause they never smell and they don't even take showers. They just clean themselves.
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:40 No, but if you get like one of those hairless ones, you have to like clean their nails-
Joe Rogan 16:44 Hmm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:44 ... and their skin and stuff.
Joe Rogan 16:45 Yeah, hairless ones are fucking weird.
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:47 They are.
Joe Rogan 16:47 Seriously.
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:47 But I like them.
Joe Rogan 16:48 Do white people really smell like wet dogs?
Adrienne Iapalucci 16:50 See. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 16:50 To black people, "The smell comes from the hair follicles when they get wet. Hair follicles secrete an oil that spreads some, spreads somewhat when wet and a small amount of water gets..." Oh. Okay. Interesting.
Adrienne Iapalucci 17:04 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 17:05 And that's from, uh, Quora. It's hilarious.
Adrienne Iapalucci 17:08 That sounds like a white person.
Joe Rogan 17:09 But that's hilarious. Go back up to that. Quora is one of those answer websites, right?
Adrienne Iapalucci 17:16 Oh, I thought Cora like a Black lady. C-O-R-
Joe Rogan 17:19 Ah.
Narrator 17:20 Look at all the Reddit posts that are, say-
Joe Rogan 17:22 I understand the Reddit post, but here's my point. Quora is like one of those, like you can ask it like, "How do you make a nuclear bomb?"
Adrienne Iapalucci 17:29 Sure.
Joe Rogan 17:29 Like that kind of stuff. And imagine if it said, "Do Black people really smell like dogs?"
Adrienne Iapalucci 17:35 What do Black people smell like when they're wet?
Joe Rogan 17:37 I don't think they smell any different than anybody. But the point is-
Adrienne Iapalucci 17:40 We all smell like dogs.
Joe Rogan 17:40 ... you could never have that question on a question web pu- webpage.
Adrienne Iapalucci 17:44 You can't. They'll take it off.
Joe Rogan 17:45 No fucking chance. But you could have it about white people.
Adrienne Iapalucci 17:48 Could you ask it what Indian people smell like?
Joe Rogan 17:52 I don't think you should. (laughs) 'Cause it would have a record.
Adrienne Iapalucci 17:55 (laughs) Why? But nobody cares about Indian people at all.
Joe Rogan 17:57 Indian people do.
Adrienne Iapalucci 17:59 Yeah. But you ever see what they're doing in India? There's-
Joe Rogan 18:01 If Vivek, Vivek Ramaswamy becomes president-
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:02 There's just like-
Joe Rogan 18:02 ... you're gonna have a real issue with this.
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:03 I don't even know who that is.
Joe Rogan 18:05 Really?
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:05 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 18:05 You don't know who Vivek is?
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:07 I try not to pay attention to what's going on.
Joe Rogan 18:08 Good for you.
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:09 I really don't know any of them.
Joe Rogan 18:10 Good for you. That's so healthy.
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:12 I know. I know like very little.
Joe Rogan 18:14 If you can exist like that, it's a good way to be, you know. There's plenty of people in this world that are paying attention.
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:20 I know. I'm not one of them, though.
Joe Rogan 18:22 Well, I don't have a problem with that. That's Ari Shaffir too. He has no idea what the fuck is going on.
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:26 Me neither ... Yeah, that's why we're good buddies.
Joe Rogan 18:27 Yeah. He has no idea what's happening.
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:30 ... he's, I mean-
Joe Rogan 18:32 You talk to him about laws being passed, he's like, "What? That's not real." (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:36 Yeah, Ari's the best. He's like-
Joe Rogan 18:38 (laughs)
Ari Shaffir’s special, cancel culture, and the Kobe backlash
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:38 Ari's, but he's also so autistic, which is why, like, him even producing my special was so good because he's so, like, focused and he knows exactly what to do.
Joe Rogan 18:47 Very focused. Loves standup as an art form.
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:49 Loves standup. He's the best at, like, not killing seats for the show.
Joe Rogan 18:53 Mm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 18:53 He is the best person for that.
Joe Rogan 18:55 Oh, yeah, yeah, he knows how important that is. Yeah. His special that he did was, the, the Jew special, was so ridiculous because they had to keep those candles lit, and so, like-
Adrienne Iapalucci 19:05 Oh, no, I was there.
Joe Rogan 19:05 ... they had to constantly light them.
Adrienne Iapalucci 19:07 I was there for it, I opened for it. It was so hot and he taped it in June.
Joe Rogan 19:11 It w- (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 19:11 It was so hot. I was on stage and I did, like, 15 minutes, I'm like, "Oh, it's really hot in here."
Joe Rogan 19:17 Well, it's the fire behind you.
Adrienne Iapalucci 19:19 I know.
Joe Rogan 19:19 You think about all those candles. How much fire is that? That's a lot of fire.
Adrienne Iapalucci 19:23 It's crazy. It was a crazy amount.
Joe Rogan 19:24 Did they have, like, fire extinguishers standing by in case some shit went sideways?
Adrienne Iapalucci 19:28 Probably. I'm sure there were some, like ... There might've been a fire marshal they had to hire just to make sure.
Joe Rogan 19:33 Probably.
Adrienne Iapalucci 19:34 But even if the whole place goes on fire, what's he gonna do? He's be like, "Well, there's a fire." (laughs) Like, what is he gonna-
Joe Rogan 19:38 What's he gonna do? He's gonna run away.
Adrienne Iapalucci 19:40 Right, so what is he gonna do?
Joe Rogan 19:41 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 19:41 Like, I mean, you would need so many, uh, fire extinguishers.
Joe Rogan 19:45 No, they're little tiny fires. They're a bunch of little itty-bitty fires. There's not, like, one major, like, i- i- all-consuming fire like that.
Adrienne Iapalucci 19:52 What if it gets ahold of, like-
Joe Rogan 19:54 Eh.
Adrienne Iapalucci 19:54 ... the curtain?
Joe Rogan 19:55 Eh. If you have fire extinguishers ... How far back was the curtain from that? Was there a curtain at all?
Adrienne Iapalucci 20:00 I'm pretty sure there-
Joe Rogan 20:01 There was a curtain. It looks like a curtain, right?
Adrienne Iapalucci 20:02 I'm pretty sure there's a curtain, yeah. It l- I mean, it looked beautiful, though.
Joe Rogan 20:05 Yeah, it's not as easy to light things on fire as you'd think. And if fire marshals are standing by with a fire extinguisher, they'd put that shit out real quick. And that would actually be kind of funny.
Adrienne Iapalucci 20:13 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 20:13 They'd probably keep that on the show.
Adrienne Iapalucci 20:15 That would be fun, if there was a fire.
Joe Rogan 20:16 What a stupid idea, though (laughs) bunch of fucking candles on stage.
Adrienne Iapalucci 20:20 That would be amazing.
Joe Rogan 20:21 Well, he was running that special for a-
Adrienne Iapalucci 20:24 I was with him.
Joe Rogan 20:24 ... forever, for a long time. And then, you know, the whole Kobe thing happened and he stopped, and then he came back.
Adrienne Iapalucci 20:31 What's crazy, I was with him in, um, I guess it was Charlotte when the whole Kobe thing happened, and I wa- he was sick. I was like, "Oh, ju-" We were on the road, and I was like, "Just go to sleep." And then I wake up and I'm like, "What did you do?"
Joe Rogan 20:42 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 20:43 (laughs) I was like, "You're sick. You were supposed to go to sleep." And then I was like, "Oh, Ari, this-" And then, the funniest part is people were like, "We're gonna kick your ass if you're ever in North Carolina," and he's like, "I'm there." And they're like, "All right, well, if you come to where I'm at-
Joe Rogan 20:56 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 20:56 ... we're gonna kick your ass."
Joe Rogan 20:59 Well, he was really into making fun of people when they died because everybody was, like-
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:02 Yes.
Joe Rogan 21:02 ... really kind to people when they die.
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:05 Yes.
Joe Rogan 21:05 And, and he was always like, "Fuck them." And some of them were really funny. The Kobe one was not, but some of them were really funny.
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:13 Sure. I also don't think he knew, like, he didn't know, like, the daughter was there. Like, he was just ...
Joe Rogan 21:17 Right.
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:18 He was just doing it about Kobe.
Joe Rogan 21:20 Jimmy, your, uh, microphone is rubbin'.
Narrator 21:22 I got it. It was him.
Joe Rogan 21:24 Oh. Um, yeah, I, but just, uh, he doesn't do that anymore, thank God.
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:29 What's funny is the Uber came to pick us up the next day and it's, like, just, like, a Black dude picking us up. He, and he's like, "I gotta go to the bathroom."
Joe Rogan 21:36 Oh.
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:36 He takes us to, like, a transient bus station.
Joe Rogan 21:39 Did, Uber guy?
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:40 Yes.
Joe Rogan 21:40 Oh, God.
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:41 And I'm like, "Does this guy know about-"
Joe Rogan 21:43 It's a setup.
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:43 Yeah, I'm like, "Are we gonna get murdered?" The guy leaves for, like, 20, 30 minutes to take a shit.
Joe Rogan 21:48 No way.
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:48 Bef- yeah, before we're going to, like, the airport.
Joe Rogan 21:50 No way.
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:51 He did. And I was like, "This is crazy."
Joe Rogan 21:53 I would've ordered a second Uber to pick me up where the first Uber was.
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:56 No, we were ready to get murdered.
Joe Rogan 21:58 You were ready?
Adrienne Iapalucci 21:58 We were just sitting there.
Joe Rogan 21:59 Like, "The time is now."
Adrienne Iapalucci 22:01 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 22:01 "This is my fate."
Adrienne Iapalucci 22:02 "This is my fate. We're dying right now."
Joe Rogan 22:03 Imagine if you die because Ari Shaffir decides... First of all, for the longest time, Ari realized that he could not have a phone because he would be addicted to social media and it was terrible for his mental health.
Adrienne Iapalucci 22:15 Mm-hmm. And that's what happened.
Joe Rogan 22:16 And so he had a flip phone forever.
Adrienne Iapalucci 22:18 Oh, I know.
Joe Rogan 22:19 And I was like, "Good for you." Like, David Tell still has a flip phone.
Adrienne Iapalucci 22:22 He does.
Joe Rogan 22:23 And it's brilliant. Like, the people that do it, Sebastian Younger, he came in here and he still has a flip phone. There's people that, that rock a flip phone.
Adrienne Iapalucci 22:30 If he would've not had that flip phone, he wouldn't have done the Kobe stuff.
Joe Rogan 22:33 Oh, 100%.
Adrienne Iapalucci 22:34 I know.
Joe Rogan 22:34 But I think things like that ultimately are good.
Adrienne Iapalucci 22:38 Yeah, he's not, he doesn't regret it. Have you talked to him?
Joe Rogan 22:41 He shouldn't have done it, right? But he, now he knows he shouldn't have done it, and that's just another layer of experience in life and just g- overcoming this horrific cancellation.
Adrienne Iapalucci 22:51 Should he not have done it, though?
Joe Rogan 22:54 In hindsight? Yeah, I think he's probably, it's probably not a good thing to do, to mock a guy-
Adrienne Iapalucci 22:59 Ari loves that, though.
Joe Rogan 23:00 ... and his daughter die in a helicopter crash.
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:01 But he didn't mock the daughter, he just mocked him.
Joe Rogan 23:04 True, yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:06 So ...
Joe Rogan 23:07 I don't know.
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:07 And I asked him, I'm like, "Do you regret doing it?" He's like, "No."
Joe Rogan 23:09 Of course he said that.
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:10 And nobody, nobody really, like, people were upset. That's the whole thing with cancellations, people are upset for, like, two, three days and then they forget.
Joe Rogan 23:15 Well, especially in this news cycle. This news cycle-
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:18 Right.
Joe Rogan 23:19 ... is so crazy. It's just, no matter what happens, there's always something right around the corner that just covers it up.
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:24 Just a new thing to get upset about.
Joe Rogan 23:25 Yeah, just another wave comes in and you no longer p- it's fades, whatever it is.
FEMA controversy to Fyre Festival 2: scams, influencers, and Mexico
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:31 Bridget said something about the FEMA person who got fired 'cause if you had Trump, yeah, if you had, like a Trump-
Joe Rogan 23:37 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:37 ... thing on your ...
Joe Rogan 23:38 Can you imagine that?
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:39 I know, but it's like, if you have any signs, that means your house didn't get hit hard by a hurricane.
Joe Rogan 23:46 No.
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:46 Come on.
Joe Rogan 23:47 No, 'cause you could have a Biden sign. Like, it doesn't matter.
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:50 Right, any sign.
Joe Rogan 23:50 It doesn't- Right.
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:51 But that's what I'm saying, if you have any sign-
Joe Rogan 23:52 Depends on how the sign was secured. Depends entirely on how the sign was secured.
Adrienne Iapalucci 23:54 If your roof came off, you think that sign's gonna be there?
Joe Rogan 23:56 Bottom line is that's not what sh- she was saying. What she was saying is avoid all houses that have a Trump sign. You cannot do that.
Adrienne Iapalucci 24:04 Oh, I know, but I'm just saying f- what's funny to me is, like, if you have a sign and it didn't lift off the ground, like, how hard was your house hit?
Joe Rogan 24:11 Could be flooding. Your house could've been completely flooded, you have no power, no electricity, no running water.
Adrienne Iapalucci 24:17 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 24:17 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 24:17 I guess.
Joe Rogan 24:18 Your house needs to be drained.... Fe- like, it's Federal Emergency Management. It's not supposed to be Federal Emergency Management for whoever this one person who's in charge with ideologically agrees with.
Adrienne Iapalucci 24:29 Oh, absolutely. I don't... I'm... I was making a joke. Like, if you have anything-
Joe Rogan 24:33 Right.
Adrienne Iapalucci 24:33 ... there and it survived a hurricane, like, your house is probably fine.
Joe Rogan 24:35 Right.
Adrienne Iapalucci 24:36 Also, I want FEMA funds to go to the Fyre Festival. Like, that's all-
Joe Rogan 24:40 Ugh.
Adrienne Iapalucci 24:40 ... our f- our money should be going to those white guys trying to run a festival who fail.
Joe Rogan 24:44 Do you know that guy's doing another one?
Adrienne Iapalucci 24:45 I know. Is it a... It's not a fire festival, is it?
Joe Rogan 24:48 He's calling it f- I think he's calling it Fyre Festival 2.
Narrator 24:51 It's Fyre.
Joe Rogan 24:51 Is he?
Narrator 24:52 I think so, yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 24:52 It has-
Joe Rogan 24:52 Yeah, and he's charging, like, a million dollars a ticket. His move is to just charge an insane amount of money and see how fucking stupid some people are.
Adrienne Iapalucci 25:04 I mean, I love that.
Joe Rogan 25:05 The whole thing was nuts. It's like one dude... It's always, like, some guy who you think could be selling Bitcoin or a pyramid scheme and now he's decided to put on a music festival.
Adrienne Iapalucci 25:16 Because he wants to be cool.
Joe Rogan 25:17 Mm-hmm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 25:18 You know what I mean? Like, doing this-
Joe Rogan 25:19 Wants to party with people.
Adrienne Iapalucci 25:19 He wants to party with people.
Joe Rogan 25:21 But did he got... Didn't he get, like, famous people to go?
Adrienne Iapalucci 25:24 I think a lot of people pulled out.
Joe Rogan 25:27 Uh, at the last minute?
Adrienne Iapalucci 25:28 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 25:29 Probably when they heard.
Adrienne Iapalucci 25:30 No, but who was the guy that was like d- was like, uh... Not Jadakiss. Who was doing-
Joe Rogan 25:34 Ja Rule?
Adrienne Iapalucci 25:34 Ja Rule was doing it with him? I mean, if you have Ja Rule on anything it's not gonna be well. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 25:39 (laughs) Was J- was Ja Rule one of the organizers?
Adrienne Iapalucci 25:41 He... I think he was just, like, one of the faces of it. I don't know if he put money in it or not.
Joe Rogan 25:45 Right, like he gave him a piece of it or something like that?
Adrienne Iapalucci 25:48 I don't know. He was there. They brought all these influencers out and they... I mean, listen, if it... If he pulled it off, it would have been pretty good. I mean, he did have everyone post at the same time at, like... Was it that orange box or something?
Joe Rogan 25:59 Oh, yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 25:59 All of the... So, like, everyone saw it and they were like, "Oh, what's this?" And then all these, like, rich kids are there and they're, like, crying 'cause they're-
Joe Rogan 26:05 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 26:06 ... eating... I mean, honestly the Fyre Festival was for all of us. That's what it was.
Joe Rogan 26:10 Right.
Adrienne Iapalucci 26:11 For all of us to see all these kids crying and these FEMA tents and it was just... It was amazing.
Joe Rogan 26:17 S-
Adrienne Iapalucci 26:18 It was amazing.
Joe Rogan 26:19 See if you can find his videos, where he's trying to promote Fyre Festival 2. So he's walking down the street of New York City saying that all... So many tickets are already sold and if you wanna-
Adrienne Iapalucci 26:29 I think they sold a lot of tickets.
Narrator 26:30 I'm looking to buy one and I don't even... Can't find the website to buy them. Not that I wanna go, I just wanna see-
Joe Rogan 26:35 Well, it might not even be real. He might be completely insane at this point.
Narrator 26:37 There's a lot of press about it.
Joe Rogan 26:39 About Fyre Festival 2?
Narrator 26:40 Yeah, posted on multiple websites.
Joe Rogan 26:42 Mm.
Narrator 26:42 This was all happening... It could have just been a press release from-
Joe Rogan 26:45 Right.
Narrator 26:45 ... you know.
Adrienne Iapalucci 26:45 Where, where is Fyre Festival 2 gonna be?
Narrator 26:47 Somewhere in Mexico on April 25th-
Joe Rogan 26:49 (clears throat) (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 26:50 Oh my God, I hope the cartel finds out.
Joe Rogan 26:51 This year?
Narrator 26:52 No, coming up, yeah.
Joe Rogan 26:53 This year coming up?
Narrator 26:54 S- in six months.
Joe Rogan 26:54 Yeah. Wow. Who the fuck is gonna go... (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 26:59 Who's going to Mexico for a fucking fire festival? That's crazy.
Joe Rogan 27:04 Ah. Ugh.
Adrienne Iapalucci 27:04 Just go to Cancun, it's so much closer (laughs) -
Joe Rogan 27:06 Yeah. Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 27:07 ... than Fyre Festival.
Joe Rogan 27:08 Go to, uh, Puerto Vallarta. You don't have to go to Fyre Festival. What's the place that all the kids go to? Tulum. They love to party in Tulum.
Adrienne Iapalucci 27:16 Yeah, have it, have it there.
Joe Rogan 27:17 I don't know why Tulum. There's not one... That's, like, one of the major places where they have those Aztec ruins, I think, or Mayan ruins. I don't know why Tulum is, like, the big... It's like where-
Adrienne Iapalucci 27:29 I just think it's, like, beautiful.
Joe Rogan 27:30 ... hippies and psychedelic people go. They go to Tulum. They do a lot of Instagram posts.
Adrienne Iapalucci 27:35 I mean, that's all... Everything's about an Instagram post.
Joe Rogan 27:38 I was watching, uh, this lady and her boyfriend the other day. They were walking on the street and they had basically taken up the entire street. See, the girl was sitting on this, like, marble bench and she was posing and you couldn't walk in between the two of them and he was, like, 12 feet away from her. So there was like... Like, what is this?
Adrienne Iapalucci 27:54 You're just stopping. I wouldn't wanna do that.
Joe Rogan 27:56 And it was a long photo shoot. Like, it went on for a couple minutes. It was fucking stupid as shit. She kept changing her, her pose and her face and the angle that he photographed her at. I wanted to take his phone away. Like, "Hey, fuckhead."
Adrienne Iapalucci 28:09 They-
Joe Rogan 28:09 "Get out of the way."
Adrienne Iapalucci 28:10 Yeah, they do that every... I was in CVS and they, they were doing a sketch and everyone was like, "You gotta get out of here."
Joe Rogan 28:15 A sketch in CVS?
Adrienne Iapalucci 28:16 Yeah, there, there was a bunch of people with cameras and they were trying to do a sketch and they were screaming and this girl was like...
Joe Rogan 28:22 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 28:22 This girl behind the counter's a nice girl and she's also, like, a little bit slow, so she's trying to get these people out of there. It's just, like, chaos.
Joe Rogan 28:29 Everybody wants attention.
Adrienne Iapalucci 28:30 I get why people steal in CVS, because nobody helps you and you're like, "I will just steal." It's just...
Joe Rogan 28:35 Hmm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 28:35 You're better off stealing than waiting there for somebody to come help you. It's just a nightmare.
Joe Rogan 28:40 The amount of people that I've seen working at those kind of stores that have, like, some sort of odd wound.
Adrienne Iapalucci 28:47 An eye wound?
Joe Rogan 28:48 Odd.
Adrienne Iapalucci 28:48 Oh.
Joe Rogan 28:49 Some odd, like... Something... Like their head looks oddly shaped and like they got hit with a brick. Like something off-
Adrienne Iapalucci 28:53 Well, that's where our veterans go to work. They send you back.
Joe Rogan 28:56 To CVS?
Adrienne Iapalucci 28:57 Yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 28:58 Really?
Adrienne Iapalucci 28:58 I don't know. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 28:59 Oh, you're just making that up?
Adrienne Iapalucci 29:00 I make a lot of stuff up.
Content creators as the #1 job: attention economy and reality-show editing
Joe Rogan 29:02 There's so many of these fucking sketches and pranks that people are doing now on YouTube. It's like everybody... If you look at kids today, like, um... They did some sort of a survey where they asked kids, like, "What do you want to be when you grow up?" And most of them said famous.
Adrienne Iapalucci 29:18 Yeah, I mean you could get famous opening, like, unboxing videos.
Joe Rogan 29:22 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 29:22 Like, like, I mean-
Joe Rogan 29:23 Yeah. Looking at food.
Adrienne Iapalucci 29:23 If you could do that, why wouldn't you wanna do that? I mean, I'd have a kid just to see if they could do that.
Joe Rogan 29:28 Well, you know that kid on TikTok, Keith Lee? Do you know who he is? He just reviews food.
Adrienne Iapalucci 29:32 No.
Joe Rogan 29:32 With a sort of a monotone voice. He's actually brothers with a Y-... He was a MMA fighter himself, and he's brothers with Kevin Lee who was a, uh, a top UFC contender at one point in time. He just does these, like, sort of monotone videos where he reviews food.
Adrienne Iapalucci 29:48 Is he, like-
Joe Rogan 29:48 Super, super popular.
Adrienne Iapalucci 29:50 He's... Wow. Yeah.
Joe Rogan 29:50 Yeah. Like how many...
Adrienne Iapalucci 29:52 It's like, why even go to school if you could just unbox a video?
Joe Rogan 29:55 Look at this. "One-of-a-kind study shows that 27 million paid creators operating in US, 11.6 million of them working full-time as creators." Wow.
Adrienne Iapalucci 30:05 Yeah, I mean, it's like they-
Joe Rogan 30:05 Is that a number one job?
Adrienne Iapalucci 30:07 If you're from another country and you're like, "Why don't we just bomb America?" (laughs)
Joe Rogan 30:11 Wait a min-... That might be-
Adrienne Iapalucci 30:12 That's crazy.
Joe Rogan 30:13 What... Isn't the number one job driving vehicles in the United States, which is one of the things they're really worried about wh- when it comes to automation, because it's one of the first jobs that's going to go?
Adrienne Iapalucci 30:22 I've seen those cars where they're operating... There's no one operating them and they're just driving?
Narrator 30:26 There you go.
Joe Rogan 30:26 They're weird. Okay, number one occupation, retail salesperson is three million. Home and health personal care is three million as well. Three million... Both of them are 3,700,000. General and operations managers, three million five. Fast food counter workers, three four.... so 'em all?
Adrienne Iapalucci 30:44 What's interesting is-
Joe Rogan 30:45 60 more rows?
Adrienne Iapalucci 30:46 ... the retail and the home health aides, they're the same people doing both jobs 'cause they can't afford to live-
Joe Rogan 30:51 Mm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 30:51 ... with just one job. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 30:52 So drivers isn't even in the top 10. That's interesting. I thought it was, like, number... one of the top ones. So cooks is 2,000,007, and that's number 10. Stockers, order fillers, two-eight. Um, and so influencers was, what, one million? That's what it was? One-
Narrator 31:10 11, 11.
Joe Rogan 31:10 One point... 11, oh, 11? Wait a minute. So that's more than that.
Narrator 31:13 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 31:14 So what the fuck? So go back to that chart again. 11.6.
Narrator 31:19 That's, like, the top four f- combined, almost.
Joe Rogan 31:21 That's crazy.
Narrator 31:22 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 31:23 So it's the most common job.
Narrator 31:25 Okay. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 31:25 So why is saying retail salesperson? It's, like, literally-
Narrator 31:28 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 31:29 ... three times more common than that.
Narrator 31:30 I'll have to then dig into where they're getting their data from, I guess, but...
Joe Rogan 31:34 Wow.
Narrator 31:35 See, it says retail has been the most common job in the US since 1997.
Joe Rogan 31:40 Not anymore, bitches.
Narrator 31:41 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 31:41 That's crazy. So that means an influencer or c-content creator, whatever the fuck you wanna call people, that's me too, I guess, wi- that's the number one job.
Adrienne Iapalucci 31:50 It is.
Joe Rogan 31:50 Number... podcasting. I used to have a joke back when it was just reality shows, that, um, there's gonna be a reality show about a cameraman on a reality show, that-
Adrienne Iapalucci 32:01 Somebody's filming him?
Joe Rogan 32:02 Someone's filming the cameraman on a real- what a crazy job. You are a cameraman on a reality show. And then someone's gonna say, "But who's the cameraman behind the cameraman?"
Adrienne Iapalucci 32:11 Right.
Joe Rogan 32:11 And then it's gonna be, like, two mirrors facing each other, where the United States is gonna be filled with just camera people filming other camera people.
Adrienne Iapalucci 32:19 Other camera people. I'm into it.
Joe Rogan 32:20 It was a joke, but it's kind of true now. Like, once... 'cause I... back when I said this, this was, like, you know, 2000 something, when I was on Fear Factor, there was no social media stars. It didn't exist.
Adrienne Iapalucci 32:34 Right.
Joe Rogan 32:34 And social media itself didn't exist. But now that it does, now that you see the impact that it has and how many people are making a living as, air quotes, "content creators," it's kind of fucking crazy.
Adrienne Iapalucci 32:45 It's incredible.
Joe Rogan 32:46 Yeah. It's a totally new market that emerged out of nowhere, and according to that thing at least, it's the number one job in the country.
Adrienne Iapalucci 32:55 Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. People are making a ton of money off of it. That's why people are, like, filming every single thing that they do.
Joe Rogan 33:01 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 33:02 And just putting it on Instagram or TikTok.
Joe Rogan 33:06 Well, they learned from the Kardashians that it doesn't even have to be interesting.
Adrienne Iapalucci 33:09 No, it doesn't.
Joe Rogan 33:10 You just have to have a new scene every five seconds. It's just... five second-
Adrienne Iapalucci 33:14 And also if it's, like, something crazy, if somebody's fighting, like a fight-
Joe Rogan 33:17 That helps.
Adrienne Iapalucci 33:17 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 33:18 But it doesn't even... that doesn't even matter. All you have to do is just constantly switch angles. Do you ever watch a reality show?
Adrienne Iapalucci 33:25 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 33:26 The, the sh- the scenes constantly change. I-
Adrienne Iapalucci 33:28 Just switching.
Joe Rogan 33:29 My wife watches that stupid fucking Kardashian show and-
Adrienne Iapalucci 33:31 I watch it too, but sometimes-
Joe Rogan 33:32 She puts it on in the gym.
Adrienne Iapalucci 33:33 ... it's so monotone. Like, it's just one monotone person to another monotone person.
Joe Rogan 33:37 She just likes the clothes and the... there's all the pretty houses and design.
Adrienne Iapalucci 33:39 I underst-... I mean, listen, I've watched the Kardashians. I get it.
Joe Rogan 33:42 But the point is, every, like, five seconds, the camera changes angles. You never have, like, o- like, the... like a podcast.
Adrienne Iapalucci 33:51 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 33:51 It's just you and me. The only thing that changes is your camera's on when you're talking, my camera's on-
Adrienne Iapalucci 33:56 Right.
Joe Rogan 33:56 ... when we're talking. Sometimes it's both cam-... both of us talking on camera.
Kardashian origin story, porn ID laws, and porn addiction spirals
Adrienne Iapalucci 33:58 I mean, I wish Kris Jenner was my mother. I mean, the way she's made these kids so famous, like... Could you imagine telling your kid to fucking have a sex scene and then release it?
Joe Rogan 34:10 (laughs) Do you think that she did that?
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:11 Yeah, she absolutely did that.
Joe Rogan 34:13 For sure?
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:13 I think so.
Joe Rogan 34:14 Really?
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:15 I'm pretty sure.
Joe Rogan 34:16 Hmm. I reserve judgment.
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:19 I think she d-... I think she did, and I think it was the smartest thing she could've done for all their careers.
Joe Rogan 34:23 Definitely worked.
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:24 Absolutely.
Joe Rogan 34:25 And, you know, everybody has sex.
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:27 Right.
Joe Rogan 34:27 If you wanna watch, go watch.
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:29 Go watch it.
Joe Rogan 34:30 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:30 But the fact... like, you would never think a mom would put that out there, but it was, like, pretty brilliant. My mom would never do something like that for me.
Joe Rogan 34:36 Well, you know, that mo-... she's a little unconventional.
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:39 Sure.
Joe Rogan 34:41 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:41 Yeah, it takes an unconventional woman (laughs) to, like, release your kids' sex tape.
Joe Rogan 34:45 She kind of turned her husband into a woman and basically made the entire clan super rich.
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:51 All... Even Rob is rich.
Joe Rogan 34:52 Super rich.
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:53 They're all rich.
Joe Rogan 34:54 Crazy rich. Yeah, for no reason. Like, not-
Adrienne Iapalucci 34:57 Because of that sex tape.
Joe Rogan 34:58 Right. But, like, that is kind of the, the seed.
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:01 It is.
Joe Rogan 35:02 Yeah. Because-
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:03 Ray J was more famous than Kim when they did that.
Joe Rogan 35:06 Right.
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:06 And now Ray J's, like, nowhere.
Joe Rogan 35:08 I... n- no, that's... that's gotta suck.
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:09 Like, if his mother also was on top of it with Kris, he could've been a bigger star too. Nobody gives a shit about Ray J anymore.
Joe Rogan 35:16 That's crazy that he didn't capitalize on that.
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:19 'Cause his mom wasn't Kris Jenner.
Joe Rogan 35:21 Right, but why didn't he figure out a way? 'Cause, like, what is-
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:24 I don't know.
Joe Rogan 35:24 What's unique about her way of thinking?
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:28 I think it's just, uh... Kim is very pretty.
Joe Rogan 35:31 That helps.
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:32 And-
Joe Rogan 35:32 He's a good-looking guy, though. He's got a big dick.
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:33 He is a, he is a, he is a good-looking guy.
Joe Rogan 35:35 Got a big dick, right?
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:36 He... I assume. I... You know, I never saw the video.
Joe Rogan 35:38 How dare you lie to me like that, right to my face.
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:40 That he has a big dick?
Joe Rogan 35:41 No, that you never saw the video.
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:42 I didn't. I saw the video, but I didn't see his dick in it.
Joe Rogan 35:45 (laughs) What did you see?
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:46 I think I saw it too late. I seen it years later.
Joe Rogan 35:49 Did you black out? (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:49 I seen it years later.
Joe Rogan 35:50 Did y-
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:50 I checked it out too late when the dick wasn't in it. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 35:52 What? The dick was removed eventually?
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:55 I think the dick was eventually removed.
Joe Rogan 35:56 Come on.
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:56 I don't know. I've been searching-
Joe Rogan 35:58 I bet-
Adrienne Iapalucci 35:58 ... for it pretty hard.
Joe Rogan 35:59 I bet Jamie can find it right now on Pornhub.
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:01 Let's see.
Joe Rogan 36:02 Can you find it?
Narrator 36:03 We... yeah. Pornhub is blocked in Texas, Joe.
Joe Rogan 36:05 Oh, no. Well, you know what?
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:06 Why is it blocked in Texas?
Joe Rogan 36:06 You gotta have certain laws if you wanna have free guns. (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:11 Why can't you... why is it blocked in Texas? That's the weirdest thing.
Joe Rogan 36:14 It's not blocked. It's not blocked. You just have to have proof that you're 18.
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:18 How do you prove that? With your license?
Joe Rogan 36:19 You have to upload... Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:20 You have to-
Joe Rogan 36:20 You have to-
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:20 ... have Kris Jenner say that you're over 18? (laughs)
Joe Rogan 36:25 (laughs) You have to have proof.
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:27 Okay. I guess. Well, I'm gonna go home and search it.
Joe Rogan 36:31 Well, e- porn addiction for kids is a real thing.
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:36 I dated a guy that had a porn addiction.
Joe Rogan 36:37 Yeah? What happened?
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:40 I mean, we broke up eventually. He was also a little autistic, and then he went to see a sex therapist and then I think they were fucking, so I guess she fixed it.
Joe Rogan 36:47 What? He fucked his sex therapist?
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:49 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 36:50 Jesus Christ. For real?
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:52 I mean, that's what he told me, I don't think he was, like, lying about it.
Joe Rogan 36:54 What a bitch. Jesus-
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:55 Yeah, but you have to like, it's like any other addiction, you have to, like, stop doing it.
Joe Rogan 36:59 Right.
Adrienne Iapalucci 36:59 I didn't even know he had it.
Joe Rogan 37:00 I'm just focusing on the sex therapist.
Adrienne Iapalucci 37:02 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 37:02 Like how crazy is it that she's fucking her clients? Maybe she had a boyfriend-
Adrienne Iapalucci 37:06 Maybe that's how she's-
Joe Rogan 37:06 ... who wasn't fucking her at all, and she was like, "At least someone's obsessed with it."
Adrienne Iapalucci 37:10 Well maybe-
Joe Rogan 37:11 "Give it to me." (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 37:13 (laughs) Maybe that's how she cures you.
Joe Rogan 37:15 'Cause if you're horny, if you're like a healthy person who's just horny normally, and the person you're with is not horny at all, and you're exhausted by that-
Adrienne Iapalucci 37:23 Sure.
Joe Rogan 37:23 ... but you're a sex therapist, and then you're, you're talking to some guy and this good-looking guy and he's like, "I get, I wanna fuck all the time."
Adrienne Iapalucci 37:31 That's the thing with-
Joe Rogan 37:31 And she's like, "You know what, I wanna fuck all the time too."
Adrienne Iapalucci 37:34 Sure. But like-
Joe Rogan 37:35 And then the two of them-
Adrienne Iapalucci 37:35 ... with porn addiction, you're so used, like he would have 300 screens open at once, so one person, to him, is boring.
Joe Rogan 37:41 Jesus Christ.
Adrienne Iapalucci 37:42 So that's what, like-
Joe Rogan 37:42 Wait a minute, for real?
Adrienne Iapalucci 37:42 ... porn addiction is, you need so much, I'm exaggerating but you need, like, a lot of different things open and it probably has to get more and more progressive for you to, like, get off.
Joe Rogan 37:51 Wow, well that's where it gets real weird, right? Like you start getting into, like, the darker side of porn, like violent porn and choking and gagging, spitting and slapping and abuse.
Adrienne Iapalucci 38:02 Sure.
Joe Rogan 38:03 Tying people up, that kinda shit. Like, 'cause if you're, if you're just getting your jollies, if you're not just trying to masturbate and have a little fantasy, you wanna like, it's gotta get darker and crazier and cra- it's gotta, like, really freak you out.
Adrienne Iapalucci 38:17 But that's why I think you have all those screens open, you're watching-
Joe Rogan 38:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 38:20 ... all of it at once.
Joe Rogan 38:21 You're getting tiny dopamine hits from 100 sources.
Adrienne Iapalucci 38:24 Right.
Joe Rogan 38:24 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 38:25 So then, like, you're just having sex with-
Joe Rogan 38:27 And then your therapist is calling you up, "Get over here."
Adrienne Iapalucci 38:29 (laughs) I got 300 other therapists too.
Joe Rogan 38:31 "You're a naughty boy."
Adrienne Iapalucci 38:33 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 38:33 "You're a naughty boy, get over here."
Adrienne Iapalucci 38:34 Yeah, so, I mean...
Joe Rogan 38:36 How did she say, how did he say that it started with the sex therapist?
Adrienne Iapalucci 38:40 I don't know, he didn't tell me, like, the specifics of it. We had been broken up already and we, like, remained friends and he just told me that they started sleeping together.
Joe Rogan 38:47 Jesus. That seems crazy. That's like prison guards fucking the prisoners.
Adrienne Iapalucci 38:53 I mean, if I was in prison, I would try and fuck all the guards. What else are you gonna do?
Joe Rogan 38:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 38:57 I would do everything, I would become Muslim, I would, like, become trans, I would do everything I could do in prison.
Joe Rogan 39:01 Right, just mix it up.
Adrienne Iapalucci 39:02 To pass the time.
Joe Rogan 39:03 Yeah, especially if you have a long sentence.
Adrienne Iapalucci 39:05 If you're there for life, I'm down-
Joe Rogan 39:06 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 39:06 ... to do everything.
Joe Rogan 39:07 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 39:07 I'll do license plates-
Joe Rogan 39:09 Of course.
Adrienne Iapalucci 39:09 ... I'm gonna do hair.
Joe Rogan 39:10 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 39:11 (laughs) I'm gonna cook, I'm gonna do everything there.
America’s incarceration machine: private prisons, slave labor, and China parallels
Joe Rogan 39:14 Of course, yeah. Yeah. It's w- it's, it's weird how many people are in prison. I mean, we went over this the other day, how many people are in prison in the United States compared to, like, the rest of the fucking world. It's like, we have the highest percentage of people that are in prison, I think, of any country in the western world, for sure. I mean, you got c- China's hard to count because you have, essentially, slaves.
Adrienne Iapalucci 39:40 Well also, in China they all live in, like, tiny boxes anyway, which are prisons-
Joe Rogan 39:45 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 39:45 ... of their own doing.
Joe Rogan 39:46 Well, like you, you wouldn't say necessarily that, um, the people that make your iPhone are slaves, but they're literally sleeping in dorms and they put nets around the building to keep them from jumping off.
Adrienne Iapalucci 39:56 Right. I'd rather be in prison. How do you-
Joe Rogan 39:57 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 39:57 ... get in prison? In China.
Joe Rogan 39:59 At least in prison they probably, like, give you less hours than the Foxconn workers.
Adrienne Iapalucci 40:04 Sure.
Joe Rogan 40:05 You probably get better food. How many people? End of 2023, the US had 1.8 million people in prison, which is more than any other country. China had the second highest number of prisoners, with about 100,000 fewer than the US. But the thing about China, again, like it's not just the amount of people in an actual prison, you have to think of the, about the actual, actual people that are slaves. US has the highest incarceration rate in the world, 724 people per 100,000. England and Wales has an incarceration rate of 145 per 140,000 and Russia has 581 people per 100,000. So Russia's nipping at our heels. Russian people are fucking crazy though. Uh, the US has longer sentences than many other countries which contributes to the high incarceration rates. I wonder how many other countries have private prisons too? That's the dark part, is that-
Adrienne Iapalucci 40:56 Well that's how you make the money.
Joe Rogan 40:57 Yeah. Yeah. Profit. Profit off of people. Remember when I found out that prison guard unions were lobbying to keep marijuana laws 'cause they wanted people to be in jail? I was like, "What?" Like-
Adrienne Iapalucci 41:09 Yeah, 'cause they wanna make money.
Joe Rogan 41:10 They want money. They need, they need that job.
Adrienne Iapalucci 41:12 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 41:12 They need those contracts. So, uh, many countries have private prisons including United States has the most private prisons in the world, 158 facilities in 30 states, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. Australia, high percentage of privatized prisons, New Zealand, United Kingdom, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, Japan, Brazil. When did they start with the private prison thing? Like who, what fucking monster... Okay, Google this, what was the first private prison? What fucking monster didn't see, didn't see the road ahead when you allow people to profit off of people being locked up? What monster didn't see you're gonna just have people lock more people up? 1984, these motherfuckers. It's George Orwell, literally is Orwell.
Adrienne Iapalucci 42:00 I would've thought it was before that.
Joe Rogan 42:01 No, it's a fairly recent thing. Prison used to be something that we used to have because we had to lock certain people up to protect them from society. And instead-
Adrienne Iapalucci 42:11 Right.
Joe Rogan 42:11 ... it became, "Hey, I think I can make money. I think I can make money off people in jail." They're using people like batteries to generate money.
Narrator 42:20 This thing says Louisiana privatized its penitentiary. I don't know if there's a big-
Adrienne Iapalucci 42:24 Hmm.
Narrator 42:24 ... differentiation between that.
Adrienne Iapalucci 42:25 1844.
Joe Rogan 42:26 Privatized, which was run as a factory. Yeah, inmates were used to produce cheap clothing for enslaved people. Wow! That's crazy. You're producing clothes for slaves.
Adrienne Iapalucci 42:40 I mean that is-
Joe Rogan 42:40 (groans)
Adrienne Iapalucci 42:40 ... basically just, um, Xi'an, that's what they're doing in China.
Joe Rogan 42:44 Right.
Adrienne Iapalucci 42:45 All those clothes that are like $2.
Joe Rogan 42:47 Yeah, that's weird, right? You can-
Adrienne Iapalucci 42:49 I know.
Joe Rogan 42:49 ... buy a total knockoff of a designer dress for like four bucks.
Adrienne Iapalucci 42:53 I know, it's great.I love it.
Joe Rogan 42:55 ... and they're, they're being ... They think-
Adrienne Iapalucci 42:56 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 42:56 You love it. I think there's a documentary on that that I was watching. My kid was watching and I walked in on it.
Adrienne Iapalucci 43:02 Was it, like, the Shein documentary?
Joe Rogan 43:04 Mm-hmm. Yeah, they were talking about these people, like, they lost a contract because they weren't able to produce things as fast as this company needed them. And it was just all about the knockoff industry over there.
Adrienne Iapalucci 43:15 Sure.
Joe Rogan 43:15 So, if you're a designer, you make, like, that top that you're wearing and people like it, they'll just take that co- top and copy it exactly and sell it for five bucks, you know? And you're like, "What? (laughs) That's $59 on my website." Nope, five bucks.
Adrienne Iapalucci 43:27 Why are there not knockoff iPhones?
Joe Rogan 43:29 There are. Not only is there not a ... Not only is there a knockoff iPhone, there's a knockoff Apple Store in China, where every single item is not really Apple.
Adrienne Iapalucci 43:39 But it works just as good? It does not work as good.
Joe Rogan 43:43 I doubt it.
Adrienne Iapalucci 43:44 How long does it last?
Joe Rogan 43:44 I mean, why would- why wouldn't they cut corners? They're already lying to you.
Adrienne Iapalucci 43:48 I know.
Joe Rogan 43:48 Like, if they're put ... Why wouldn't they put a cheaper chip in the laptops when they put cheaper screens? If you want to use, like, Gorilla Glass and AMOLED displays, that shit's expensive. Use some cheap-ass, you know, five-year-ago bullshit, and just sell it to morons.
Adrienne Iapalucci 44:03 If it lasts for a couple years, that's great.
Joe Rogan 44:05 Five-year-old bullshit still works.
Adrienne Iapalucci 44:06 Yeah. It does.
Joe Rogan 44:08 You know? It's not great, though.
Adrienne Iapalucci 44:09 I mean, I drop-
Joe Rogan 44:10 It sucks.
Adrienne Iapalucci 44:10 ... my phone all the time.
Joe Rogan 44:11 Try to register with the Apple Store and they're like, "Nah, player." (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 44:15 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 44:15 "That this ain't an iPhone." You fuckin'-
Adrienne Iapalucci 44:17 That's why you need Riot, so you can steal the stuff.
Joe Rogan 44:19 Mm. (sighs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 44:20 It all comes back to that.
Joe Rogan 44:22 Mm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 44:23 Stealing all the stuff.
Joe Rogan 44:24 Mm. But someone's gotta make the stuff. Slaves.
Adrienne Iapalucci 44:27 Yeah, in China.
Joe Rogan 44:28 Slaves in prison in China.
Adrienne Iapalucci 44:30 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 44:30 Yeah. I mean, what percentage of ... Let's he- let's ask this: What percentage of our electronics is made in China?
Adrienne Iapalucci 44:38 Probably 95%.
Joe Rogan 44:40 Well, a lot gets made in Japan and South Korea, like Sony, huge. Samsung, huge. They're probably one of the biggest electronic mak- I mean, they make everything. They make refrigerators. They make, like, smart refrigerators where you can, like, check your refrigerator with your phone to see what the fuck's in there.
Adrienne Iapalucci 44:56 To make sure your refrigerator's, like, not doing something. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 44:58 Yeah, uh, checking on you. Keep an eye on that motherfucker.
Adrienne Iapalucci 45:02 What's going on in there?
Joe Rogan 45:03 What are you doing?
Adrienne Iapalucci 45:03 How many ice cubes have you made?
Joe Rogan 45:05 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 45:05 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 45:05 You lazy bitch. Where's my fucking ice ... Ice cubes from your refrigerator or from your freezer, are they the dirtiest ice cubes of all time? Like-
Adrienne Iapalucci 45:14 I said 95%.
Joe Rogan 45:15 I'd, I'd never want those in my glass.
Narrator 45:16 I just remember all the ... I think-
Joe Rogan 45:18 Yeah.
Narrator 45:18 ... the Apple stuff is all coming from China.
Joe Rogan 45:20 You nailed it. Oh, yeah, all the stuff that gets made, actually gets made from Apple, that's all China. Laptops and computer monitor, China supplies 92% of us imports. Um, phones, China supplies 74% of us phone imports. So, Samsung does not use China for phones, and I don't know if it's an ethical thing or what, but I think they make their phones in India and somewhere else. Maybe Vietnam? But-
Adrienne Iapalucci 45:50 Do they s- ... Is there a correlation between them, like, stopping killing baby girls in China with making all of this stuff? Or are they like, "Let's keep them alive so we can have them make new products"?
Joe Rogan 46:00 No, I think they just woke up and said, "We have, like, 85% men."
Adrienne Iapalucci 46:04 Right.
Joe Rogan 46:05 "And all these poor women are fucked." And, like-
Adrienne Iapalucci 46:08 They have to keep fucking all these guys.
Joe Rogan 46:10 Yeah, I mean-
Adrienne Iapalucci 46:10 There's not enough women.
Joe Rogan 46:11 They have to live with, like, three or four guys just to balance it out.
Adrienne Iapalucci 46:16 Gross.
Joe Rogan 46:16 Take turns.
Narrator 46:17 Competition. They're not as highly competitive in China, it sounds like.
Joe Rogan 46:20 Hmm. They reclo- relocated some of their manufacturing from China to Southeast Asia to avoid high labor costs. What? (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 46:30 They?
Joe Rogan 46:31 Slaves- ... Those slaves are expensive, Adrienne.
Adrienne Iapalucci 46:32 Uh-huh.
Joe Rogan 46:33 Uh, Samsung also hasn't been able to compete with Chinese brands like, uh, Xiaomi, OPPO, and vivo in the Chinese market. Interesting.
Adrienne Iapalucci 46:41 I've never even heard of those brands.
Joe Rogan 46:43 Yeah, they make, um ... Uh, Xiaomi makes, um, like, high-end, uh, Android phones. In the rest of the world, Android phones are huge.
Adrienne Iapalucci 46:52 I know.
Joe Rogan 46:52 Because everybody uses WhatsApp. They don't really give a fuck about iMessage.
Adrienne Iapalucci 46:57 WhatsApp, WhatsApp is, like, big in the Hispanic community, too.
Joe Rogan 46:59 Mm-hmm. Yeah, WhatsApp is huge w- ... I have friends that only talk to me on WhatsApp.
Adrienne Iapalucci 47:04 I do, too.
Joe Rogan 47:05 Yeah. Like, uh ... Well, Zuckerberg owns it, you know? He owns it. But I don't talk to him other than WhatsApp. He's a WhatsApp- ... But he owns WhatsApp.
Adrienne Iapalucci 47:14 You talk to him on WhatsApp?
Joe Rogan 47:15 Yeah, I talk to him on WhatsApp.
Adrienne Iapalucci 47:15 And is he- ... What does he say?
Joe Rogan 47:17 We talk shit about things.
Adrienne Iapalucci 47:18 Yeah? He's like, "What's up?"
Joe Rogan 47:19 He's a nice guy.
Adrienne Iapalucci 47:20 Is he?
Joe Rogan 47:20 He really is. Even though he's a billionaire. Yeah, he's a nice guy. 'Cause when someone's, like, really rich, like, oh, that guy's not a person.
Adrienne Iapalucci 47:26 Yeah, but, uh, he didn't-
Joe Rogan 47:27 He's some weird robot.
Adrienne Iapalucci 47:27 ... start out rich though, did he?
Joe Rogan 47:28 No.
Adrienne Iapalucci 47:29 So-
Joe Rogan 47:29 Of course not. He invented Facebook.
Adrienne Iapalucci 47:30 Yeah, but some people start ... Some people are rich, and they, like, had ... Their families had money the whole time.
Joe Rogan 47:35 That's weird.
Adrienne Iapalucci 47:35 So they're ... Yeah.
Joe Rogan 47:36 That's weird, right? 'Cause then you're insulated from birth, and then you go right into a deeper layer of insulation where you're like completely-
Adrienne Iapalucci 47:43 And money.
Billionaires, Bill Gates, fake meat, and why Indian vegetarian food wins
Joe Rogan 47:43 Yeah, yeah, completely disconnected from people. That's when you get into, like, Bill Gates' category, which, like, "Let's figure out a way to block out the sun," like ... (laughs) You get into, like-
Adrienne Iapalucci 47:53 (laughs) You're so rich where you're like, "I really wanna fuck shit up for everyone."
Joe Rogan 47:56 Imagine, like, I was reading this thing about Bill Gates' idea to block out the sun and-
Adrienne Iapalucci 48:01 (sneezes)
Joe Rogan 48:02 ... oopsies ... Oopsies, Jaime.
Adrienne Iapalucci 48:03 Sorry.
Joe Rogan 48:04 No worries. It happens all, all the fucking time.
Adrienne Iapalucci 48:05 I'll- I'll clean it. I'm a woman, I'll clean it up.
Joe Rogan 48:07 Hey, yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 48:07 I know my place.
Joe Rogan 48:08 (laughs) Um, like, he wa- ... They were talking about Bill Gates has some plan to stop global warming and p- um, like, shoot particles into the air to block out the sun. And people are like, "Hey, do you know many fucking people are on Earth? You can't just come up with that idea and try it. Like, what about the rest of us? This is a whole planet."
Adrienne Iapalucci 48:25 You'll need vitamin D.
Joe Rogan 48:26 But imagine being so ridiculous that you're- you're so wealthy that you think, "Oh, I can just block the sun." Like-
Adrienne Iapalucci 48:33 I kind of love it. I kind of love that this guy is so nuts.
Joe Rogan 48:37 He is nuts.
Adrienne Iapalucci 48:37 And that you're like, "I'm just gonna stop, like, water from happe- ... Like, you're just gonna ... Like, I love so many of the things that can do that much damage to the world."
Joe Rogan 48:44 "I think people should just stop eating meat," and then he just, like, tries to get everybody to eat his stupid fucking fake meat.
Adrienne Iapalucci 48:49 That's fine, but imagine, like, blocking out the sun.
Joe Rogan 48:52 That's crazy.
Adrienne Iapalucci 48:52 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 48:53 Yeah. He's also buying farmland.
Adrienne Iapalucci 48:55 To do what? Raise cattle?
Joe Rogan 48:56 Who fucking knows? Probably grow his fake meat food.
Adrienne Iapalucci 49:00 Like GMO shit?
Joe Rogan 49:01 Yeah, well, fake meat is made out of plant protein, and so you have to grow plants or-
Adrienne Iapalucci 49:06 I've never had it.
Joe Rogan 49:07 It's nasty.
Adrienne Iapalucci 49:07 I bet it's disgusting.
Joe Rogan 49:08 Well, it's... The thing about it is, like, if you wanna have healthy vegetarian food, go eat Indian food. It tastes delicious, it's good for you, and it's vegetarian. Like, it just doesn't have to pretend to be a cheeseburger.
Adrienne Iapalucci 49:22 Right. I mean-
Joe Rogan 49:23 That fake cheeseburger stuff is all seed oils.
Adrienne Iapalucci 49:26 Right, just eat, just eat legumes and whatever you're gonna eat.
Joe Rogan 49:28 Yeah. Yeah, if you... You can do it. Like, if you can, if you wanna eat healthy and have delicious food, Indian food's the way to go. 100... There was a Indian food restaurant in Woodland Hills I used to go to all the time. It was this cool place. It was like, everybody spoke Hindi, and you went in there and like, you had to like, just guess what you were eating and point... Everything was vegetarian.
Adrienne Iapalucci 49:48 That's pretty scary to me.
Joe Rogan 49:49 Oh, it was super, super authentic. It was like, there's this weird offshoot Indian community-
Adrienne Iapalucci 49:55 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 49:55 ... and so they had like, this Indian grocery store, and then in the back of the Indian grocery store, they had this cafe, and it was all Indian food. It was really good though.
Adrienne Iapalucci 50:02 It's prob-... They use a lot of spices too.
Joe Rogan 50:04 Oh, yeah. They know how to spice the shit out of those vegetables. But it was good. It was like, delicious vegetables.
Adrienne Iapalucci 50:10 It's pretty healthy, Indian food, yeah.
Joe Rogan 50:12 It's very healthy. You know, for-
Adrienne Iapalucci 50:13 It's like vegetables and like, all of that stuff's pretty good.
Joe Rogan 50:15 Also, they use a lot of turmeric, you know, like, and curcumin, and the, all the, those spices. And like, that's all anti-inflammatory, turmeric is.
Adrienne Iapalucci 50:23 Right. I mean, you have to be close to a bathroom, but like, it is pretty good.
Joe Rogan 50:26 Let's go.
Adrienne Iapalucci 50:26 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 50:27 You gotta be ready to go.
Adrienne Iapalucci 50:29 I'm gonna eat this on the run.
Joe Rogan 50:31 But that's my point, is like, if you wanna fucking eat vegetarian, if you wanna eat vegetables only, there's a way to do it that tastes good, and you don't have to pretend you're eating a fucking burger. Those bur- burgers are nasty.
Adrienne Iapalucci 50:42 I guess, I guess you just feel left out. Like, what is the point of pretending to eat that?
Joe Rogan 50:45 Well, it's 'cause the people quit eating meat.
Adrienne Iapalucci 50:48 Right, I understand that.
Joe Rogan 50:50 That's what it is. No, they quit, and then they want the meat back. They wish they could have the meat. "Oh, well, you can pretend you're eating the meat. It even bleeds just like a burger."
Adrienne Iapalucci 50:58 Gross.
Joe Rogan 50:59 It's all gross.
Adrienne Iapalucci 50:59 Just eat a burger or d- or eat beans, whatever you're gonna eat.
Joe Rogan 51:01 It's also super-duper unhe- unhealthy for you.
Adrienne Iapalucci 51:04 It can't be healthy.
Joe Rogan 51:06 Well-
Adrienne Iapalucci 51:06 To manufacture it like that?
Joe Rogan 51:07 It's so processed. If you wanna eat vegetables, this is how you eat them. They come out of the ground, clean them up, cook them-
Adrienne Iapalucci 51:14 Put some spices.
Joe Rogan 51:15 ... cook them. That's a vegetable.
Adrienne Iapalucci 51:17 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 51:17 You don't run it through fucking machines and glop it up with oils and extract things-
Adrienne Iapalucci 51:23 Soy and crap.
Joe Rogan 51:24 ... and compress it and... Shut the fuck up.
Adrienne Iapalucci 51:26 You ever see, like, what tempeh looks like?
Joe Rogan 51:28 Ugh, it's nasty.
Adrienne Iapalucci 51:29 I know. My friend was eating it one time, I was like, "That looks disgusting."
Joe Rogan 51:31 Ugh. I was watching them production of tofu, like from scratch with all these machines. Like, why would you ever think that's natural?
Adrienne Iapalucci 51:39 And tofu doesn't taste good. I mean, I know it picks up the flavor of what it, whatever it is, but it's like, it's n-... On its own, it has no taste.
Joe Rogan 51:45 No. On its own, it has no taste. It's a crude source of protein that doesn't have a lot of amino acids in it, and you, it's not as bioavailable. But you can live on it. Like, you can live, you, you can live on vegetables. You can do it, it's just, it's not advisable.
Adrienne Iapalucci 52:00 You just don't have energy though.
Joe Rogan 52:01 No, you're missing so many things. You're missing creatine, you're missing a bunch of amino acids, you're missing vitamin B12. There's a bunch of things you're gonna have to supplement with. You know, there's ways people supplement that, that can mitigate some of that. Um, algae is a good one, 'cause algae's kind of a life form that's different, and you can get certain vitamins from algae that you can't get from just like, um, plants that grow above ground.
Adrienne Iapalucci 52:26 This sounds disgusting. I gotta be honest.
Joe Rogan 52:27 It does sound disgusting. You know what vegans should really consider adopting into their diet? Mollusks. Because mollusks are actually more primitive than plants. Um, they, they just... We got, you gotta get over the fact that they move, okay? 'Cause Venus flytraps move too, okay?
Adrienne Iapalucci 52:43 They do.
Joe Rogan 52:44 Would you feel bad about eating a Venus flytrap salad? If you do, you're a cuckoo person. You're not just a vegetarian.
Adrienne Iapalucci 52:50 Sure.
Joe Rogan 52:50 You're a cuckoo person. Now you think the Venus flytrap is smarter than like, cabbage? That's stupid. That doesn't make any sense.
Adrienne Iapalucci 52:56 Do vegetarians not eat any vegetables either? Aren't there some people that believe like, oh, that's-
Joe Rogan 53:00 Oh, fruitarians. That's a fruitarian. Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 53:02 So then what do they eat?
Joe Rogan 53:04 Well, those people eat cancer. They die. (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 53:06 I mean, that's crazy.
Joe Rogan 53:07 That shit, that shit's so bad for you to just, you only eat fruit. You're, you're overwhelmed with sugar. You're eating sugar all day long. Sugar should be something you have every now and then, I think. I mean, I think sugar is generally, it causes all sorts of inflammation, and it's not really good for you. It tastes great, but it's not good for you.
Adrienne Iapalucci 53:24 You mean like fruit sugar, or like...
Joe Rogan 53:25 Even fruit sugar. I think you should get fruit sugar in the form of fruit only. You definitely shouldn't get it in orange juice.
Adrienne Iapalucci 53:31 Sure.
Joe Rogan 53:31 Orange juice is no different than drinking a Coca-Cola.
Adrienne Iapalucci 53:35 But what on... What if it's like 100% just orange juice?
Joe Rogan 53:37 Doesn't matter. Your body's not used to processing-
Adrienne Iapalucci 53:40 It's processing it the same way.
Joe Rogan 53:41 ... all that liquid sugar. Yeah. Exactly the same way. Maybe even worse, because some... Like, uh, my daughter once got one of them apple juices from Disneyland.
Adrienne Iapalucci 53:50 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 53:51 And she looks at it and she goes, "Jesus Christ, this has 18 grams of sugar in it." (laughs) This little-
Adrienne Iapalucci 53:55 Oh, yeah, fruit-
Joe Rogan 53:55 ... tiny thing.
Adrienne Iapalucci 53:56 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 53:57 Like, what is a Coca-Cola, Jamie? Is it 30? Let's gre- let's guess.
Narrator 54:02 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 54:02 How many grams of sugar do you think Coca-Cola has in it? A can.
Adrienne Iapalucci 54:04 Probably about 40.
Joe Rogan 54:05 40? Okay.
Adrienne Iapalucci 54:06 38.
Joe Rogan 54:06 I say about 30. What do you think, Jamie?
Narrator 54:08 I think it's, uh, 30.
Joe Rogan 54:09 Like 30-ish?
Narrator 54:10 39.
Joe Rogan 54:11 39? Okay. That's it?
Narrator 54:14 Yep. Oh, yeah, sorry, that's what it is. 39.
Joe Rogan 54:15 Okay. So, what is, uh, 12 ounces of orange juice? 12 ounces of, let's say fresh-squeezed, so it's, you think you're eating healthy. Fresh-squeezed orange juice.
Adrienne Iapalucci 54:26 There's... You still have to better off having a fruit juice over a Diet Coke.
Joe Rogan 54:30 Not... Well, not-
Adrienne Iapalucci 54:31 Or not a Diet Coke, a regular coke.
Joe Rogan 54:32 A regular coke. Not much. Well, there is... They're both fructose, right?
Narrator 54:37 About 30.
Joe Rogan 54:38 30. Yeah, real similar. Real similar to a Co- Co- Coca-Cola. You do get vitamin C, you get that. But if you want orange juice, you should get it from eating oranges.
Adrienne Iapalucci 54:49 Sure.
Joe Rogan 54:49 'Cause when... That's what... Your body knows what to do with that. Your body gets a slice of orange and goes, "I know what to do with this."This is good. There's-
Adrienne Iapalucci 54:55 So, how does your body not-
Joe Rogan 54:57 ... plenty of fiber in there.
Adrienne Iapalucci 54:57 Okay. So let me ask you this.
Joe Rogan 54:58 Okay.
Adrienne Iapalucci 54:58 Now, if you're drinking orange juice, how come your body doesn't recognize that as an orange?
Joe Rogan 55:02 Because it's going straight to your liver.
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:03 Okay.
Joe Rogan 55:04 Okay? There's no breaking down of fiber. There's no... I- and you're getting a dose-
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:09 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 55:09 ... of equivalent to, like, eating eight oranges immediately.
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:12 Mm. Okay.
Joe Rogan 55:13 Your body's like, "What the fuck"-
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:14 "What's going on?"
Joe Rogan 55:15 "... is this?" That's why soda's so bad for you.
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:17 Sure.
Joe Rogan 55:18 Your body's like, "What the fuck is this?"
Sugar, keto/carnivore benefits, weight loss, and addiction logic
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:22 Well, I stopped eating sugar.
Joe Rogan 55:24 Totally?
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:25 I only have, like, fruit. But, like, other than that, I don't have any, like, cookies, or cake, or any of that stuff.
Joe Rogan 55:30 How do you feel?
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:31 I feel better. I mean, I lost a ton of weight. Uh-
Joe Rogan 55:33 You did. You look great.
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:34 Thanks. I, uh, I also-
Joe Rogan 55:35 How much did you lose?
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:37 From the last time I was here? Probably like 45, 50 pounds.
Joe Rogan 55:40 Wow.
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:40 But I also was working out too.
Joe Rogan 55:41 How do your joints feel? They must feel so much lighter.
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:44 They do. But, like, I have a friend who's, like, "Losing weight, it doesn't matter how much you weigh, it doesn't weigh on your joints." And I'm like, "You know that's, like, not true."
Joe Rogan 55:51 That doesn't make any sense.
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:52 I know, but you just kind of have to let people think that, 'cause what am I gonna do? Fight with you about it? Just... "Okay. Fine."
Joe Rogan 55:57 She said it doesn't make a difference in your joints?
Adrienne Iapalucci 55:59 It doesn't make a m- difference how much you weigh, like, on your knees.
Joe Rogan 56:02 Is it gonna be a guy or a girl?
Adrienne Iapalucci 56:03 A girl.
Joe Rogan 56:04 Hmm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 56:05 And I was like, "Okay." I'm just... Like, I was staying at her house too, and I was like, "I'm not gonna fight with you about this."
Joe Rogan 56:10 I used to notice the difference when I was fighting, when I would lose weight, when I would, uh, compete. So, I used to weigh, like, 155 pounds, and then I had to compete at 140. Uh-
Adrienne Iapalucci 56:21 And just that-
Joe Rogan 56:22 Uh-huh.
Adrienne Iapalucci 56:22 ... 15-pound weight, you felt-
Joe Rogan 56:24 Oh, yeah. I felt so light. I so- I felt so-
Adrienne Iapalucci 56:26 It's- you feel a total difference.
Joe Rogan 56:27 ... so light on my feet. Well, I work out with a vest. I put a weight vest on.
Adrienne Iapalucci 56:30 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 56:30 So, it's a 25-pound weight vest, and I do, like, all these body weight exercises. When I get that- that 25 pounds doesn't seem like much. I get that thing off me, I'm like, "Oh."
Adrienne Iapalucci 56:39 Yeah. I- I mean, my back. Everything feels better.
Joe Rogan 56:41 Of course. Your joints, everything. You- you're over strait. But your legs are probably strong as fuck. I used to say that about Ralphie May. I'm like, "Bro, if you could lose weight, you could kick through a fucking building."
Adrienne Iapalucci 56:53 But I think your knees are just like, "We need a break."
Joe Rogan 56:57 Destroyed.
Adrienne Iapalucci 56:57 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 56:57 Right, but they will get a break. They're gonna get a break 'cause you're n- gonna lose 400 pounds.
Adrienne Iapalucci 57:00 If you lose 400 pounds, sure (laughs) .
Joe Rogan 57:02 Yeah. I mean, but I was looking at his legs. I'm like, "The muscle you must have in your legs." You- you go up stairs. You know, like R- R- Ralphie-
Adrienne Iapalucci 57:09 I don't know how many people-
Joe Rogan 57:09 ... was performing in the belly room.
Adrienne Iapalucci 57:10 ... are going upstairs. Oh, okay.
Joe Rogan 57:11 Ralphie went into the belly room, so he had to go upstairs. You remember the belly room of The Store?
Adrienne Iapalucci 57:16 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 57:16 That's a fucking stair- old school staircase.
Adrienne Iapalucci 57:19 But I mean, how often are you doing that?
Joe Rogan 57:21 Well, he's walking a lot 'cause he was always walking, just walking.
Adrienne Iapalucci 57:25 Right.
Joe Rogan 57:25 Imagine if... Okay. I weigh 205 pounds. If I had to put on a f-... What did Ralphie weigh in his prime, if you had to guess?
Adrienne Iapalucci 57:34 I have no idea. 500 pounds?
Joe Rogan 57:36 500 pounds? If I had to put on 300 pounds-
Adrienne Iapalucci 57:38 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 57:39 ... imagine if I... and I'm in shape. Imagine if I had to walk around The Comedy Store with a dumbbell-
Adrienne Iapalucci 57:44 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 57:44 ... on my waist, on my back, or- or a barbell on my back with-
Adrienne Iapalucci 57:48 Right.
Joe Rogan 57:48 ... 300 pounds on it.
Adrienne Iapalucci 57:50 Okay. But, I mean, you're not-
Joe Rogan 57:51 I can make it, like, 30 steps, then I'd have to put it down and-
Adrienne Iapalucci 57:53 Sure.
Joe Rogan 57:53 ... take a break for, like, five minutes, and then try to pick it up again, and I'd be exhausted. This dude's just walking around all day like that.
Adrienne Iapalucci 58:00 But if you're walking around that much, you're gonna lose a lot of weight too.
Narrator 58:03 He almost lost that much weight.
Joe Rogan 58:05 That's what he lost?
Narrator 58:06 Yeah. He weighed almost 800 pounds.
Joe Rogan 58:09 Yo.
Adrienne Iapalucci 58:10 And just walking up the stairs at the belly room, he lost 300 pounds?
Joe Rogan 58:14 Just once, one time.
Adrienne Iapalucci 58:15 One time?
Joe Rogan 58:16 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 58:16 That's crazy. Why are we not having all the fat people walk one time?
Joe Rogan 58:18 Wow, he used to weigh over 800 pounds. He underwent gastric bypass surgery and lost 350 pounds, but has struggled with his weight. He, um, he blew out his, uh, gastric bypass twice.
Adrienne Iapalucci 58:29 Well, the thing is, with... I mean, a lot of people that get those surgeries, you're not... If you're not figuring out the reason why you're overeating like that-
Joe Rogan 58:36 Right.
Adrienne Iapalucci 58:36 ... it doesn't matter. You can still gain the weight back if you eat small meals all day long. I have friends that have gotten it, and you just eat small meals all day long.
Joe Rogan 58:43 Right.
Adrienne Iapalucci 58:44 And you're just still gaining the weight back.
Joe Rogan 58:46 Stay-
Adrienne Iapalucci 58:46 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 58:46 Keep... You at least maintain your weight. You can't keep as much in there at a time as, like, a giant plate of food, but...
Adrienne Iapalucci 58:52 No, but if you eat little meals all day and graze-
Joe Rogan 58:54 All day.
Adrienne Iapalucci 58:54 ... you'll s-
Joe Rogan 58:55 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 58:55 ... gain the weight back. I know people that have had that surgery, and they're like, "Oh, you've just gained a lot of your weight back."
Joe Rogan 59:00 Right. So, they're not eating 'cause they're hungry. They're eating 'cause they're crazy. They're something wrong.
Adrienne Iapalucci 59:03 Well, they're eating b-... Right. It's, like, the same way people abuse anything, right?
Joe Rogan 59:07 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 59:07 Like, if it's alcohol, or sex, or drugs.
Narrator 59:09 Mm-hmm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 59:09 You know, it's the same thing, right? You're trying to, like, numb out and fill a void. So, if you don't actually address that, you're not gonna just stop eating.
Gambling addiction stories: her dad, Dana White, and the ‘Uncut Gems’ mindset
Joe Rogan 59:16 So, someone told me this. Um, find out if this is true. Does Bruno Mars owe the MGM a ton of money from gambling?
Narrator 59:23 I've heard-
Joe Rogan 59:24 Is that true?
Narrator 59:24 I've seen the story where someone just claims they were there.
Joe Rogan 59:27 Yeah. I've talked to someone who claims that it's... Someone who- who would know, who claims it's true. But isn't that crazy, if true, that even a guy like Bruno Mars, who's this super wealthy, super famous, super talented singer-
Adrienne Iapalucci 59:41 It doesn't mean you don't have issues though.
Joe Rogan 59:43 Right. But the- the gambling one is a nutty one.
Adrienne Iapalucci 59:45 It is. Well, my dad was a gambler.
Narrator 59:46 Public record at MGM, he has no debt to MGM.
Joe Rogan 59:49 'Cause MGM probably made some sort of a deal.
Narrator 59:51 Right. That's true.
Adrienne Iapalucci 59:51 Right.
Joe Rogan 59:52 'Cause his... Doesn't he have, like, some sort of a... He has no debt with MGM. Wink wink. So, they have a deal. So, what is, uh... What... They have some sort of a... He has a residency there, right?
Narrator 1:00:03 I think so.
Joe Rogan 1:00:05 The word is.
Narrator 1:00:06 Right.
Joe Rogan 1:00:07 I don't know if he's got a gambling problem.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:00:09 My dad was a gambler. And, like, he made no money. That's the craziest thing, to be a gambler when you have no real money.
Joe Rogan 1:00:15 Oh, it's a crazy one. It's a crazy addiction. It's an addiction that, um, I- I first saw when I started hanging out in pool halls when I was 23.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:00:24 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 1:00:24 I started... I became addicted to playing pool.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:00:26 Okay.
Joe Rogan 1:00:26 I- I was playing it all the time. I- I blew my knee out. Uh, I needed to get knee surgery. And, um, uh, when I blew my knee out, I couldn't work out, so I had to wait for surgery. And so, like, my ACL was all fucked up. And so I just started playing pool with one of my friends, and I became addicted to playing pool. And I would go there all the time 'cause as a comedian, I didn't have a job. I just would go on stage at night, and during the daytime-
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:00:48 Right.
Joe Rogan 1:00:48 ... I'd hang out in pool halls, and at nighttime, I'd hang out in pool halls. And I just got around these people that I- I've n- I'd never known anybody like that before, just fully addicted to gambling all day long. They would go to the racetrack.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:00 Oh, my God.
Joe Rogan 1:01:00 They would go to off-track betting.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:02 My dad used to take me to OTB as a kid.That's brutal, and that's when they used to let you smoke. (smoke exhaling)
Joe Rogan 1:01:07 Oh, God.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:07 You'd just come home smelling like smoke. It's disgusting.
Joe Rogan 1:01:09 And you were hanging out in there as a kid.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:10 'Cause me and my sister, we would hang out with my dad in the OTB-
Joe Rogan 1:01:13 Oh, my God.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:13 ... for hours.
Joe Rogan 1:01:14 I feel like such a good dad. (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:16 Yeah. You're a way better dad. It wouldn't be bad if my dad was gambling and he was like, you know... He was a mailman. You can't-
Joe Rogan 1:01:22 Oh, God.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:22 ... you can't gam- you can't do both of those things at the same time.
Joe Rogan 1:01:25 Yeah. It's a crazy one. It's a really cra-... Who was it that told us that the dad, the dad was gambling so hard they lost their house? (sighs) Oh, fuck, I forgot the whole story. But it's just... You don't hear a story, very rarely, about a gambling addict who, like, kills it and, like, they retire in Vegas and they have-
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:47 No, because you keep going until you eventually-
Joe Rogan 1:01:49 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:49 ... lose everything.
Joe Rogan 1:01:51 Yeah, it's a dark one. Did you see Uncut Gems?
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:54 N- no.
Joe Rogan 1:01:55 You should see it.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:56 Okay.
Joe Rogan 1:01:56 Well, and it might be too close to home.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:57 It doesn't matter.
Joe Rogan 1:01:58 But, it's, uh, it's Adam Sandler's, I think his best movie ever, and it wasn't even a comedy at all. He- it's a drama.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:04 Okay.
Joe Rogan 1:02:04 And he fucking kills in it too. It's so good.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:06 I have heard other people say that.
Joe Rogan 1:02:08 It's so good.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:08 I gotta watch it.
Joe Rogan 1:02:09 But it's, for me, like, having known those people?
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:12 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 1:02:13 And it's so filled with anxiety. 'Cause it's a s- it's a sports betting thing. Sports bettors are the craziest ones, 'cause there's so many different ways to bet. You can get- bet the spread, you can bet parlays, you can do all-
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:24 My dad, for a while, my dad was, like, taking money from his pension, which, like-
Joe Rogan 1:02:29 (gasps)
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:29 Yeah, so when he died, there was, like, really not that much money, and my mom was forcing him to go to Gamblers Anonymous while he was also still gambling.
Joe Rogan 1:02:36 It's not gonna help.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:38 If you don't really wanna stop-
Joe Rogan 1:02:39 You gotta decide. Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:39 Right, if you don't wanna stop, you're not gonna stop.
Joe Rogan 1:02:42 I think food is the hardest one, um, because food addiction, you always have to eat food, right?
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:48 Right.
Joe Rogan 1:02:49 All the other ones, you can kind of just not do them anymore.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:51 And that's why I stopped eating sugar, 'cause once I started-
Joe Rogan 1:02:53 Hmm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:53 ... eating it, I can't stop.
Joe Rogan 1:02:54 Right.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:54 So then once it's, like, outta your system, you don't crave it anymore.
Joe Rogan 1:02:57 Well, that's because your gut bacteria changes.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:00 That makes sense.
Joe Rogan 1:03:00 Yeah. It's... What is it? Candida? Is that what it is? There's a specific type of gut flora that consumes sugar and, uh, it thrives on sugar. And with people that eat a lot of sugar, it's very c- prominent in their, their gut bacteria, and it m- literally changes your brain. It changes your chemistry.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:19 I mean, a-
Joe Rogan 1:03:19 It changes your mood.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:20 Doesn't sugar also just, like, a breeding ground for cancer, like when you have cancer?
Joe Rogan 1:03:24 Oh, yeah. One of the things they tell you if you get cancer-
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:25 Just stop sugar.
Joe Rogan 1:03:26 Stop all sugar or get on a ketogenic diet, so get your body to eat, uh, like high fats.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:31 Go into ketosis.
Joe Rogan 1:03:31 Yeah, eat a lot of macadamia nuts and things with, you know, things that you get a lot of fat from. And just, that's... You- your body starts burning fat, which you feel (sighs) so much better when you live like that. Your brain works better.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:43 Yeah, for sure.
Joe Rogan 1:03:44 When I-
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:44 You're just, like, in a brain fog.
Joe Rogan 1:03:45 Yeah, for sure for me. I mean, uh, you know, I- I'm Italian, so I grew up eating pasta and bread and pizza. It was, like, common.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:53 Me too.
Joe Rogan 1:03:53 And when I stopped doing it, when I went, like, on a carnivore diet, the first thing that I thought that was really bizarre was how I wasn't hungry during the day. Like, I ne- I never got this, like, famished starvation feeling.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:04:06 Well, 'cause isn't it, like, you're, if you're eating stuff that's, like, high in carbohydrates like that, your... Doesn't your blood sugar, like, drop really quickly and stuff?
Joe Rogan 1:04:13 Mm-hmm. Yeah, it spikes when you eat.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:04:15 Or spikes.
Joe Rogan 1:04:15 It's like... It's insulin. Your body produces a, a ton of insulin. You... And you want, you want your body to run on ketones. If your body runs on ketones, it's just like s- it works better or your thought... One of the things that I noticed, like, almost immediately was, like, when I came in to do podcasts, I was much better at it. My, my brain, like, just as a, from a performance-enhancing m- perspective, my brain functions better. I can form sentences better.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:04:40 If I was eating, like, a lot of sugar, you almost get, like, that same hungover feeling as if you drink.
Joe Rogan 1:04:45 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:04:45 Like, I've had that where, like, if you binge eat sugar and then the next day you're like, "Oh my God, I feel so hungover."
Joe Rogan 1:04:51 (clicks tongue) It's similar.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:04:52 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:04:52 Yeah. It's similar. Like, there's something t-... It's not as extreme, 'cause you're probably not dehydrated too.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:04:57 Right.
Joe Rogan 1:04:57 But yeah, your body's like, "What are you doing to me, man? What are you doing to me?"
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:01 "It's not good."
Joe Rogan 1:05:02 "It's not good."
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:02 Not at all.
Joe Rogan 1:05:02 But it's so delicious. Like, cake.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:04 It is. Sure.
Joe Rogan 1:05:05 Cake is so fucking good-
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:06 It's amazing.
Joe Rogan 1:05:06 ... while you're eating it.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:07 I know, and then after-
Joe Rogan 1:05:08 While you're eating it, you're like, "God, this is so good."
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:09 That's how my dad felt gambling on the horses.
Joe Rogan 1:05:12 (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:13 'Cause, like, "This feels so good." And then t-... Well, he... So they would send us to Catholic school and he would, like, not pay, like, tuition and then they would call me in to, like, talk to me.
Joe Rogan 1:05:22 Oh, no.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:22 And I'd have to go talk to my dad. (laughs) And I'm like-
Joe Rogan 1:05:24 And he was gambling the money away?
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:26 Yeah, my dad was always gambling.
Joe Rogan 1:05:28 (inhales deeply) (exhales deeply) I think people need some excitement in their life, you know?
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:33 Sure, and it's like, why are you doing that? What are you trying to numb out? 'Cause God knows what he was... You know what I mean? Like-
Joe Rogan 1:05:39 Right.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:39 ... everyone's kind of trying to fix their problems from their childhood or they're not.
Joe Rogan 1:05:43 There's that, but I think with gambling, it's also-
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:46 The thrill.
Joe Rogan 1:05:46 ... it's excitement.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:47 Yes, the thrill.
Joe Rogan 1:05:48 And you get addicted to just having a purpose and having excitement. Your purpose is to figure out when the Knicks are gonna win by 17 points.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:55 Sure.
Joe Rogan 1:05:56 And if they win, you win. And then, "Yes! I'm alive!"
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:00 It, like, spikes you.
Joe Rogan 1:06:01 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:01 Like, you're just like, that feeling-
Joe Rogan 1:06:02 Mm-hmm.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:02 ... of, like, winning and then that feeling of losing.
Joe Rogan 1:06:04 Well, that's the craziest thing about the Adam Sandler movie. There's a moment in it, spoiler alert, where he does make this big win. And so with this big win, he's gonna be able to pay all these people off that are trying to kill him, and he immediately doubles down and puts it on another bet. And you're like, "What the fuck are you doing?"
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:18 Right, you just w-
Joe Rogan 1:06:18 You're doing.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:18 Because that's the thing.
Joe Rogan 1:06:20 Yeah.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:20 You're chasing that high constantly. I had a friend-
Joe Rogan 1:06:22 Ugh.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:22 ... who was a huge gambler, and, like, he lost so much money, and no matter how much he gambles, if he's up $15,000, he's still chasing that $8 million loss.
Joe Rogan 1:06:30 Oh.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:31 So it doesn't matter. He's, he's constantly chasing that big loss. And, like, no matter how much he wins, he's like, "Yeah, but I still lost all that other money, so I'm gonna keep chasing this."
Joe Rogan 1:06:39 (sighs) My good friend Dana White is a gambling addict.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:44 And also, if you're super rich, you just have more to lose. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 1:06:47 Oh yeah, he, he goes hard. We went to visit him at, um, Green Valley... Was it Green... No. River... Red Rocks? Red Rocks. We went to visit him at Red Rocks, Jamie and I went, and when we got there, he was $600,000 down. When we got there.
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:07:01 That's crazy.
Joe Rogan 1:07:02 Playing blackjack. But at the end of the night, he stayed till, like, 6:00 in the morning, he was $600,000 up. So he won that money back and then he got 'em for 600 grand. (laughs)
Adrienne Iapalucci 1:07:12 That's crazy.
Joe Rogan 1:07:13 He's there all the time. He loves it. He love... But he's worth, like... You know, I don't know what
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