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Joe Rogan Experience #2232 - Josh Brolin

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Nov 21, 20242h 32mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:0015:00

    (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

    1. NA

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hey, oh.

    4. JB

      Little Bo Peep, she needed the money.

    5. JR

      Oh.

    6. JB

      Oh. How, remember how great that was, man?

    7. JR

      Oh, yeah. When I first met him, it was like one of those weird things where, you know, you know, I mean, you've met a lot of famous people. Some of them you meet them and you're like, "Uh, fucking really you?"

    8. JB

      Bummer.

    9. JR

      It's weird.

    10. JB

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      Oh, there's bummer too, yeah.

    12. JB

      Right, right, right.

    13. JR

      The bummer one's are... That sucks.

    14. JB

      That, that sucks.

    15. JR

      When you meet someone and they suck, and you're like, "Oh, no, you suck."

    16. JB

      Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

    17. JR

      Some people just should just not talk. They should only do what they do, act and sing.

    18. JB

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      Just stop talking.

    20. JB

      But then you get to know them. Like, I don't know, like, I'm pretty good at this now, where you don't, where you see people that you, like, looked up to, like Eddie Vedder, I had a pretty close relationship with Eddie Vedder.

    21. JR

      Oh, really?

    22. JB

      Yeah. But I was drinking and then I would grab his balls and do shit like that.

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. JB

      And then it was like, "I don't want him around."

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. JB

      "I don't want Josh around."

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. JB

      "I don't like that anymore. I don't want my..." You know. And I think Sean Penn appreciated shit like that, like, "Wow, somebody has the balls."

    29. JR

      A little chaos?

    30. JB

      It's not even a little chaos, it's like somebody has the balls to, like, call me on my shit. Like not everybody is afraid of me.

  2. 15:0030:00

    Like just that alone.…

    1. JB

    2. JR

      Like just that alone.

    3. JB

      Just that alone.

    4. JR

      Like you have to kind of keep people in the dark. You have to kind of like keep dancing and-

    5. JB

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      ... otherwise you're going to jail. (laughs)

    7. JB

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      Like some- someone's gonna start investigating and they're gonna go, "Hey, what you did is not legal."

    9. JB

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      And you're gonna be in real trouble.

    11. JB

      How'd you... What's your relationship like with money?

    12. JR

      In what way?

    13. JB

      Just in what... You- you've made a certain amount of money for a long time.

    14. JR

      I don't think about it.

    15. JB

      You don't think about it?

    16. JR

      I like... No, no, what I like about money is to not think about it. That's what I like.

    17. JB

      Do you like spending it?

    18. JR

      I like buying stuff.

    19. JB

      Me too.

    20. JR

      I have a nice car. Drove here.

    21. JB

      Do-

    22. JR

      I drove a '69, uh, Camaro once.

    23. JB

      See, but that's different.

    24. JR

      I like that. Yeah, I like that.

    25. JB

      That's fucking different.

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. JB

      That's character.

    28. JR

      I like fun stuff, but-

    29. JB

      Fun stuff.

    30. JR

      ... for the most part, I'm not interested in it like as a goal. You know, I just... I l- uh, what I like about money is not having to think about it.

  3. 30:0045:00

    Right. …

    1. JB

      your children-

    2. JR

      Right.

    3. JB

      ... with a potential poison-

    4. JR

      Right.

    5. JB

      ... because everybody is different. If I take-

    6. JR

      Yes.

    7. JB

      ... a bong hit, I might end up under the table.

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. JB

      If you take a bong hit, you actually may feel smarter and clearer. I remember Dean Potter, who was a climber, and he was like, "I stopped smoking pot for four months, but when I started smoking pot, I could feel the hold."

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. JB

      "At 2,000 feet."

    12. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    13. JB

      "Sheer cliff, nothing underneath, no ropes, but I felt more confident." And for me, I go, "If I took a bong hit up there, I could be four feet up and be freaking out."

    14. JR

      Right. It's different for everybody.

    15. JB

      It's... 'Cause everybody has different brains, it's like psycho-pharmaceuticals.

    16. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    17. JB

      Let's just give them all lithium, or let's give them all that. You have to experiment and the, the, the idea-

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. JB

      ... of experimenting with that shit is super scary.

    20. JR

      It is. It is super scary. And it's also super scary when you're not liable for any of the repercussions and you're just pushing it on people because you're a corporation.

    21. JB

      (clears throat)

    22. JR

      And corporations just wanna make money. Their, their thing is just, is just unlimited growth. They just have a, they have an obligation to their shareholders every...... quarter, they wanna make more money, and they just keep ramping it up.

    23. JB

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      Like, we're doing really well this year.

    25. JB

      I remember Seinfeld, Seinfeld talking about that. He was like, "I remember back in the '70s and comedy, you know, green rooms and all that, and we'd all be fucking with each other. And it had, never had anything to do with money because nobody was really making money, like money, money, like, tons of money."

    26. JR

      Right.

    27. JB

      It was just about, "What set are you gonna do?"

    28. JR

      Right.

    29. JB

      "What are you trying out?"

    30. JR

      Right.

  4. 45:001:00:00

    That guy was fucking…

    1. NA

    2. JR

      That guy was fucking amazing.

    3. JB

      It's great. It's great. It's fucking amazing. What do you love about his writing, and what type ... Like fear and loathing?

    4. JR

      Well, I was just reading, uh, Hell's Angels recently actually. Re- reading it.

    5. JB

      That's the book that I go back to most.

    6. JR

      Yeah. Well, that's really him when he was starting, right? That was the beginning of this sort of Gonzo journalism stuff, because he was kind of mixing in fiction with, uh, reality. That's one of the things that pissed off the Hell's Angels-

    7. JB

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      ... is that he took a lot of liberties with the truth to try to, like, paint a picture.

    9. JB

      Right, which was his deal-

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. JB

      ... which was his style later on, is like-

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. JB

      ... exaggerating and kind of romancing his own life.

    14. JR

      Well, he was out of his fucking mind. I mean-

    15. JB

      Out of his mind, but he was also one of the most brilliant technical writers that ever was.

    16. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    17. JB

      And that's what, that's what's forgotten. Like, even people talk about Kerouac. And Kerouac was like, you know, he wrote On The Road, and he was on the road, and it was the Hunter S. Thompson type of thing. And you're like, "You know he edited On The Road for seven years?"

    18. JR

      Oh, wow.

    19. JB

      And nobody knows that because Kerouac kind of like, uh, you know ... He put forth this thing of, like, first thought, best thought, don't edit-

    20. JR

      Hmm.

    21. JB

      Don't ... It was, again, a whole-

    22. JR

      That's bullshit.

    23. JB

      Like, it's total horse shit.

    24. JR

      Oh, wow.

    25. JB

      That's why I say it goes back to writers. It's a labor.

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. JB

      You sit down and you write all the fucking time.

    28. JR

      My friend Ari-

    29. JB

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      ... on his, uh, laptop, he's got a little piece of paper above the keyboard that says, "The first draft of everything is shit."

  5. 1:00:001:06:40

    Well, I mean, if…

    1. JR

      They still do fusions.

    2. JB

      Well, I mean, if it's a, if it's a massive break or something like that, maybe.

    3. JR

      Yeah, I don't recommend it. There's other ways you can heal bulging discs, and one of them's there's uh, a process called Regenakene. And Regenakene is, uh, I had that done in LA.

    4. JB

      Mm.

    5. JR

      In Santa Monica. They used to do it in Germany. You used to have to go to Germany to do it, and like Kobe Bryant went over there and Peyton Manning went over there.

    6. JB

      Mm-hmm.

    7. JR

      And what they do is they take your blood out, and it's like platelet rich plasma.

    8. JB

      Yeah, which-

    9. JR

      But it's a more advanced-

    10. JB

      PRP? Right. Yeah.

    11. JR

      It's a more advanced version of it.

    12. JB

      Mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      And they spin your blood in this centrifuge and they add some stuff to it and it turns it into like one of the most potent anti-inflammatories. And then what they do is you lie down there and they inject it in your back.

    14. JB

      Hm.

    15. JR

      They have like these little needles. I think there's an Instagram post of me getting it done on my lower back. And so-

    16. JB

      Did you have a slipped disc in your lower back?

    17. JR

      Bulging.

    18. JB

      Bulging.

    19. JR

      You know, it's, it's essentially a bulging disc, but it can go back.

    20. JB

      What did-

    21. JR

      Bulging discs can go back.

    22. JB

      Well, that was my experience.

    23. JR

      And you al- you also have to have, uh, traction, like, uh, decompression.

    24. JB

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      So there's a bunch... There it is. So that's my back.

    26. JB

      I had that done.

    27. JR

      So they take that and they stick all that shit, but all that-

    28. JB

      And they drill that, don't they?

    29. JR

      They just put holes-

    30. JB

      That's a dril-

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