EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,011 words- 0:00 – 15:00
(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…
- NANarrator
(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hey, oh.
- JBJosh Brolin
Little Bo Peep, she needed the money.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- JBJosh Brolin
Oh. How, remember how great that was, man?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. When I first met him, it was like one of those weird things where, you know, you know, I mean, you've met a lot of famous people. Some of them you meet them and you're like, "Uh, fucking really you?"
- JBJosh Brolin
Bummer.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's weird.
- JBJosh Brolin
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, there's bummer too, yeah.
- JBJosh Brolin
Right, right, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
The bummer one's are... That sucks.
- JBJosh Brolin
That, that sucks.
- JRJoe Rogan
When you meet someone and they suck, and you're like, "Oh, no, you suck."
- JBJosh Brolin
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Some people just should just not talk. They should only do what they do, act and sing.
- JBJosh Brolin
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just stop talking.
- JBJosh Brolin
But then you get to know them. Like, I don't know, like, I'm pretty good at this now, where you don't, where you see people that you, like, looked up to, like Eddie Vedder, I had a pretty close relationship with Eddie Vedder.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, really?
- JBJosh Brolin
Yeah. But I was drinking and then I would grab his balls and do shit like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JBJosh Brolin
And then it was like, "I don't want him around."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JBJosh Brolin
"I don't want Josh around."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJosh Brolin
"I don't like that anymore. I don't want my..." You know. And I think Sean Penn appreciated shit like that, like, "Wow, somebody has the balls."
- JRJoe Rogan
A little chaos?
- JBJosh Brolin
It's not even a little chaos, it's like somebody has the balls to, like, call me on my shit. Like not everybody is afraid of me.
- 15:00 – 30:00
Like just that alone.…
- JBJosh Brolin
- JRJoe Rogan
Like just that alone.
- JBJosh Brolin
Just that alone.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like you have to kind of keep people in the dark. You have to kind of like keep dancing and-
- JBJosh Brolin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... otherwise you're going to jail. (laughs)
- JBJosh Brolin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like some- someone's gonna start investigating and they're gonna go, "Hey, what you did is not legal."
- JBJosh Brolin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you're gonna be in real trouble.
- JBJosh Brolin
How'd you... What's your relationship like with money?
- JRJoe Rogan
In what way?
- JBJosh Brolin
Just in what... You- you've made a certain amount of money for a long time.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think about it.
- JBJosh Brolin
You don't think about it?
- JRJoe Rogan
I like... No, no, what I like about money is to not think about it. That's what I like.
- JBJosh Brolin
Do you like spending it?
- JRJoe Rogan
I like buying stuff.
- JBJosh Brolin
Me too.
- JRJoe Rogan
I have a nice car. Drove here.
- JBJosh Brolin
Do-
- JRJoe Rogan
I drove a '69, uh, Camaro once.
- JBJosh Brolin
See, but that's different.
- JRJoe Rogan
I like that. Yeah, I like that.
- JBJosh Brolin
That's fucking different.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJosh Brolin
That's character.
- JRJoe Rogan
I like fun stuff, but-
- JBJosh Brolin
Fun stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for the most part, I'm not interested in it like as a goal. You know, I just... I l- uh, what I like about money is not having to think about it.
- 30:00 – 45:00
Right. …
- JBJosh Brolin
your children-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JBJosh Brolin
... with a potential poison-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JBJosh Brolin
... because everybody is different. If I take-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- JBJosh Brolin
... a bong hit, I might end up under the table.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JBJosh Brolin
If you take a bong hit, you actually may feel smarter and clearer. I remember Dean Potter, who was a climber, and he was like, "I stopped smoking pot for four months, but when I started smoking pot, I could feel the hold."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJosh Brolin
"At 2,000 feet."
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- JBJosh Brolin
"Sheer cliff, nothing underneath, no ropes, but I felt more confident." And for me, I go, "If I took a bong hit up there, I could be four feet up and be freaking out."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. It's different for everybody.
- JBJosh Brolin
It's... 'Cause everybody has different brains, it's like psycho-pharmaceuticals.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- JBJosh Brolin
Let's just give them all lithium, or let's give them all that. You have to experiment and the, the, the idea-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJosh Brolin
... of experimenting with that shit is super scary.
- JRJoe Rogan
It is. It is super scary. And it's also super scary when you're not liable for any of the repercussions and you're just pushing it on people because you're a corporation.
- JBJosh Brolin
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
And corporations just wanna make money. Their, their thing is just, is just unlimited growth. They just have a, they have an obligation to their shareholders every...... quarter, they wanna make more money, and they just keep ramping it up.
- JBJosh Brolin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, we're doing really well this year.
- JBJosh Brolin
I remember Seinfeld, Seinfeld talking about that. He was like, "I remember back in the '70s and comedy, you know, green rooms and all that, and we'd all be fucking with each other. And it had, never had anything to do with money because nobody was really making money, like money, money, like, tons of money."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JBJosh Brolin
It was just about, "What set are you gonna do?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JBJosh Brolin
"What are you trying out?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
That guy was fucking…
- NANarrator
- JRJoe Rogan
That guy was fucking amazing.
- JBJosh Brolin
It's great. It's great. It's fucking amazing. What do you love about his writing, and what type ... Like fear and loathing?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I was just reading, uh, Hell's Angels recently actually. Re- reading it.
- JBJosh Brolin
That's the book that I go back to most.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, that's really him when he was starting, right? That was the beginning of this sort of Gonzo journalism stuff, because he was kind of mixing in fiction with, uh, reality. That's one of the things that pissed off the Hell's Angels-
- JBJosh Brolin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... is that he took a lot of liberties with the truth to try to, like, paint a picture.
- JBJosh Brolin
Right, which was his deal-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJosh Brolin
... which was his style later on, is like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJosh Brolin
... exaggerating and kind of romancing his own life.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, he was out of his fucking mind. I mean-
- JBJosh Brolin
Out of his mind, but he was also one of the most brilliant technical writers that ever was.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- JBJosh Brolin
And that's what, that's what's forgotten. Like, even people talk about Kerouac. And Kerouac was like, you know, he wrote On The Road, and he was on the road, and it was the Hunter S. Thompson type of thing. And you're like, "You know he edited On The Road for seven years?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, wow.
- JBJosh Brolin
And nobody knows that because Kerouac kind of like, uh, you know ... He put forth this thing of, like, first thought, best thought, don't edit-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- JBJosh Brolin
Don't ... It was, again, a whole-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's bullshit.
- JBJosh Brolin
Like, it's total horse shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, wow.
- JBJosh Brolin
That's why I say it goes back to writers. It's a labor.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJosh Brolin
You sit down and you write all the fucking time.
- JRJoe Rogan
My friend Ari-
- JBJosh Brolin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... on his, uh, laptop, he's got a little piece of paper above the keyboard that says, "The first draft of everything is shit."
- 1:00:00 – 1:06:40
Well, I mean, if…
- JRJoe Rogan
They still do fusions.
- JBJosh Brolin
Well, I mean, if it's a, if it's a massive break or something like that, maybe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I don't recommend it. There's other ways you can heal bulging discs, and one of them's there's uh, a process called Regenakene. And Regenakene is, uh, I had that done in LA.
- JBJosh Brolin
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
In Santa Monica. They used to do it in Germany. You used to have to go to Germany to do it, and like Kobe Bryant went over there and Peyton Manning went over there.
- JBJosh Brolin
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And what they do is they take your blood out, and it's like platelet rich plasma.
- JBJosh Brolin
Yeah, which-
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's a more advanced-
- JBJosh Brolin
PRP? Right. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a more advanced version of it.
- JBJosh Brolin
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they spin your blood in this centrifuge and they add some stuff to it and it turns it into like one of the most potent anti-inflammatories. And then what they do is you lie down there and they inject it in your back.
- JBJosh Brolin
Hm.
- JRJoe Rogan
They have like these little needles. I think there's an Instagram post of me getting it done on my lower back. And so-
- JBJosh Brolin
Did you have a slipped disc in your lower back?
- JRJoe Rogan
Bulging.
- JBJosh Brolin
Bulging.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, it's, it's essentially a bulging disc, but it can go back.
- JBJosh Brolin
What did-
- JRJoe Rogan
Bulging discs can go back.
- JBJosh Brolin
Well, that was my experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you al- you also have to have, uh, traction, like, uh, decompression.
- JBJosh Brolin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So there's a bunch... There it is. So that's my back.
- JBJosh Brolin
I had that done.
- JRJoe Rogan
So they take that and they stick all that shit, but all that-
- JBJosh Brolin
And they drill that, don't they?
- JRJoe Rogan
They just put holes-
- JBJosh Brolin
That's a dril-
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