Joe Rogan Experience #2233 - Scott Storch

Joe Rogan 0:00 (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Scott Storch 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (energetic music) Those are the three-

Joe Rogan 0:13 Yeah.

Scott Storch 0:13 ... I probably most iconic, um-

Joe Rogan 0:16 So what do you ... What are the ... We're rolling now, so tell me what, what's, like, the most iconic beats you've created in your opinion?

Scott Storch 0:21 Oh, we're already rolling?

Joe Rogan 0:22 We're rolling. Fuck it.

Scott Storch 0:23 Hey, fuck it. We're doing it.

Joe Rogan 0:24 Hey.

Scott Storch 0:24 How you doing?

Joe Rogan 0:25 Hey.

Scott Storch 0:25 I mean, look. I've got not hundreds, but thousands of songs. I've created.

Joe Rogan 0:31 Thousands.

Scott Storch 0:31 Thousands.

Joe Rogan 0:31 For sure.

Scott Storch 0:32 Thousands of songs. Um, I'm told most often that most iconic or identifiable one is obviously Still Dre. We got ...

Joe Rogan 0:47 Give me a little of that real quick.

Scott Storch 0:49 Let's see. (piano music) Now, if you watch my fingers while I'm playing that, if I was just, like, a fucking sterile, like, just basic motherfucker, I'd be playing. (piano music) But I wanted to do it like ... (piano music) sloppy.

Joe Rogan 1:21 Right.

Scott Storch 1:21 Like that perfect imperfection.

Joe Rogan 1:23 Right.

Scott Storch 1:23 Like, you want ... Sometimes you want a nice sloppy booty or a nice fucking ...

Joe Rogan 1:27 (laughs)

Scott Storch 1:27 You know what I'm saying? You don't want things always, like, perfect. Picture perfect.

Joe Rogan 1:30 Right. You like a little grit on your-

Scott Storch 1:32 I do.

Joe Rogan 1:32 ... hardwood floor.

Scott Storch 1:34 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:35 Yeah. Yeah. No. I-

Scott Storch 1:36 That's where I ... You know, that perfect imperfection.

Joe Rogan 1:38 How did you get started?

Scott Storch 1:40 Huh?

Joe Rogan 1:40 How did you get started making beats?

Scott Storch 1:42 Um-

Joe Rogan 1:42 Like what, what started you in music?

Scott Storch 1:44 What started me in music? Okay. Go all the way back?

Joe Rogan 1:48 All the way back.

Scott Storch 1:49 All the way back listening to, like, Ozzy Osbourne and Cheap Trick in the mirror with a tennis racket-

Joe Rogan 1:57 (laughs)

Scott Storch 1:57 ... thinking, "Wow, I could probably get some girls to like me if I knew how to fucking play this shit." And then it... My parents had, like, this upright piano in the house. And it was a piece of furniture. And I had a cassette deck. You know, at that time, it was all about cassettes and I had the little baby cassette thing. I put it on the piano bench and figure out how to play all my favorite songs.

Joe Rogan 2:20 Just, just self-taught?

Scott Storch 2:22 Yeah. And then I, you know, I ended up taking three or four lessons and the guy was like, "You should just teach yourself."

Joe Rogan 2:31 Really?

Scott Storch 2:32 Yeah, like ... And my family didn't ... We didn't have no money, like, and my mom to get to the piano lesson. All that shit was just ... I did my thing. And, like, it's at a point where my mom and dad were like, "Can you go outside and play with the kids? I'm tired of hearing this shit." I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no, no."

Joe Rogan 2:49 (laughs)

Scott Storch 2:49 And then that evolved into ... I moved with my father. My parents had divorced. My dad was a court reporter, stenographer. And we moved from ... I grew ... I was born in New York as an infant, moved to Florida, but when I was 15, just turning 15, I moved to Philly with my dad. And, um, I was really getting into music. I was experiencing, like, hip hop now in my head, like-

Joe Rogan 3:19 What year was this?

Scott Storch 3:19 Ugh. I don't even know what year it was.

Joe Rogan 3:21 How old are you now?

Scott Storch 3:22 I'm 50.

Joe Rogan 3:23 Okay. Seven years different than me.

Scott Storch 3:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:25 So, yeah. Okay.

Scott Storch 3:26 I'm real horrible with the years, but, um, talking early '90s.

Joe Rogan 3:32 Yeah.

Scott Storch 3:33 Extremely early.

Joe Rogan 3:33 At the beginning of, like, the big hip hop boom out of New York.

Scott Storch 3:37 Yeah. And when I first found a love for hip hop, it was this music that they were sampling all these, like, cool, like, Fender Rhodes sounds (piano music) like, uh, like say Tribe Called Quest. (piano music)

Joe Rogan 3:51 Mm.

Scott Storch 3:56 That's not one of mine. But it was that, like, uh, Relax Yourself girl.

Joe Rogan 4:01 Mm. Right, right, right.

Scott Storch 4:01 You know, it's like that, that, like, Native Tongue, the De La Soul.

Joe Rogan 4:05 Right, right.

Scott Storch 4:05 All that type of shit was heavy and, like, I was like, "Wow. This music is really great in this." It was different than, like ... I mean, I loved sh- NWA and I loved, like ... But that was, like, hardcore shit and then, like, this musically Guru and jazz and, like-

Joe Rogan 4:19 Mm-hmm.

Scott Storch 4:19 ... all this shit was-

Joe Rogan 4:20 Yes.

Scott Storch 4:20 ... coming around. So I got into that and I couldn't really afford a keyboard. I'm living in Philly. My dad was like ... I was cutting school and going into the city from the burbs to, like, get in the music scene at this young age and it was like, "Yo. Go back to school and start that shit or get the fuck out." He was trying to do me a favor with tough love, but I decided to get the fuck out-

Joe Rogan 4:46 (laughs)

Scott Storch 4:47 ... (laughs) at 15. And now, I'm like couch hopping at homies and that bo- uh, led to moving into the fucking hood in West Philly with this guy who was an aspiring manager that was a videographer that I met at my dad's court reporting firm. And kinda like halfway against my dad's will, he took me in and we started hitting the pavement, man, and I joined The Roots. It was ... They were called The Square Roots at that time. You know the band on Jimmy Fallon?

Joe Rogan 5:16 Mm. Sure, sure.

Scott Storch 5:16 Questlove, et cetera, et cetera. And, um, I didn't have much money and I bought what they call a Fender Rhodes. This is, like, big keyboard, which is ... They're very expensive now 'cause it's a vintage. But at that time, I could get that for, like, 200 bucks and I got the keyboard. Had a couple of broken notes on it and shit and I just made my sound with that and it was just, like, this soulful, um, this thing. You know what I mean? (laughs) And, um, joined The Roots and, uh, now I'm a band member, you know. At ... Simultaneously, I'm doing construction in Philly for a friend of mine who has, like, these, like, shell houses that I got live in one for a while and then I got my first place. I'm, like, living in this thing. He lived across the street in a kind of a nice one. This is, like, super horrible neighborhood, but he's got almost, like, the whole block and, like, there's a construction site on the first floor. I had to walk up and this was, like, semi-finished one-... no electricity, but he ran a cord across the street and a power strip for my electricity.

Joe Rogan 6:22 (laughs)

Scott Storch 6:22 I ran everything on that one power strip. Like, I had a fucking, a space heater like this, 'cause it was freezing cold. I had, like, a keyboard set up, like, so I could do my thing. And that was just... I made my existence and-

Joe Rogan 6:34 Wow.

Scott Storch 6:35 If I had never made it, I was like, "Man, I'll just play at bar mitzvahs and weddings and fucking call it a day." But I'd rather do that than be a court reporter or some other shit, like-

Joe Rogan 6:44 Right.

Scott Storch 6:44 And school wasn't for me. Couldn't focus on anything but the music.

Joe Rogan 6:50 It always bums me out that there's so many people out there like that, that do have... They have intelligence and ability, but the system just wants them to plug into normal jobs. You don't realize, like, hey, there's other jobs out there. There's other things that you can do.

Scott Storch 7:06 Right.

Joe Rogan 7:06 It's not conventional. The path's not clear. You know, you wanna get into music? You really fucking love music? Get, get into music.

Scott Storch 7:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:15 Get into music. And nobody tells you that. (laughs) Nobody tells you.

Scott Storch 7:18 No. And they don't tell you, like...

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Scott Storch 9:10 Find your niche within music.

Joe Rogan 9:12 Yes.

Scott Storch 9:12 Maybe you can do the actual music, but you can become a promoter or you can become... There's so many different fields within music that you can do.

Joe Rogan 9:20 Right.

Scott Storch 9:20 If you're an expert. If you have no talent and you have no business being in music, at least be honest with yourself, 'cause we know if we're good or not. Like-

Joe Rogan 9:27 Right.

Scott Storch 9:27 You know?

Joe Rogan 9:28 But what makes talent? What do you think it is?

Scott Storch 9:30 Passion, it's no talent.

Joe Rogan 9:31 Passion.

Scott Storch 9:32 Yeah, if you're a passionate person and you love something so much, you're gonna end up being good at it, I think.

Joe Rogan 9:39 It makes sense.

Scott Storch 9:39 If you're doing it to get money or something else, it's like, it's questionable, or you just wanna be cool because you like music. But if you're so passionate about this shit that you're showing results and you're growing and you're seeing that... When you watch people's reactions, I still do to this day. If I'm in the studio, I'm playing some shit. Like, I have this, like, weird thing where I start receiving satellite, and I'm like playing, and I don't even know what the hell I'm playing.

Joe Rogan 10:02 Receiving satellite?

Scott Storch 10:03 I swear to God.

Joe Rogan 10:03 So, like, the muse.

Scott Storch 10:04 I'm not even there anymore. I'm just like, all of a sudden-

Joe Rogan 10:07 Right.

Scott Storch 10:07 ... I'm just doing this thing I've been doing-

Joe Rogan 10:09 Yeah.

Scott Storch 10:09 ... for 30 years, and I watch the room. I'm like, "Oh, they like this one. Okay, let's use this." You know what I mean? That's how I know if I'm moving people. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 10:17 Receiving satellite is a great way to put it.

Scott Storch 10:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:20 'Cause that's what it feel... Like, I always say that, like, there's sometimes I write things, I'm like, "I didn't really write that. That was..."

Scott Storch 10:25 You blacked out and it got written.

Joe Rogan 10:27 Some... Yeah, that's, that came from somewhere else. I didn't have any effort involved in this. It just came to me-

Scott Storch 10:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:31 ... like a gift from the gods, like.

Scott Storch 10:32 Yeah, it's... You're receiving talent.

Joe Rogan 10:34 That's why they always call it the muse, you know, because the people that were, you know, like, Shakespeare and those people, they really did kind of feel like it was being given to them.

Scott Storch 10:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:42 We all do though, right?

Scott Storch 10:43 So true, yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:44 But doesn't everybody kind of say that when they're being honest? Like, anybody who writes anything, whether they write literature, whether they write music, comedy, whatever.

Scott Storch 10:51 It flows through you.

Joe Rogan 10:52 Yes.

Scott Storch 10:53 If you have to work for it, it's contrived, sort of like-

Joe Rogan 10:56 Right.

Scott Storch 10:56 ... I feel like, somewhat. Like, if something doesn't come... Like, I push myself, yes, 'cause there's technical stuff that you have to. But that initial light bulb that goes off and just, fshoo, you just-

Joe Rogan 11:07 Right.

Scott Storch 11:07 ... get in that zone.

Joe Rogan 11:09 Yeah, downloading satellite.

Scott Storch 11:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:11 And it's the, the thing about it is, it's, it's so hard to control. It's just, it's... It comes, it goes, it's there, it's not. What's that water you're drinking? What is this crazy stuff?

Scott Storch 11:22 (laughs) 'Cause you know what?

Joe Rogan 11:23 It's bag water.

Scott Storch 11:24 I'ma tell you what it is. I get, like, inflammation. Like, I'm playing piano or whatever-

Joe Rogan 11:30 Mm-hmm.

Scott Storch 11:30 ... I sometimes get, like, a little bit like...

Joe Rogan 11:32 Okay.

Scott Storch 11:32 And this is, like, hydrogen water.

Joe Rogan 11:34 Okay.

Scott Storch 11:34 And I, I fuck with it. A friend of mine, my boy Adam, like, he's like, "Listen, I think you should try my water." He's investing in all kinds of things and he's just... He's been my best, one of my best friends my whole life, this guy Adam Linder. Just fuck... Cool guy. I've been down and out and the fucking dude would take me in and-

Joe Rogan 11:50 Mm-hmm.

Scott Storch 11:50 You know, we're both meshuggeners but, you know, he has this fucking water and, um, him and, randomly enough, my boy who's a big songwriter, Poo Bear, they're giving a go at this water thing, so. But I like it. It's H-Factor Water, dude. And-

Joe Rogan 12:05 Yeah, I've heard of that stuff.

Scott Storch 12:06 It's really good.

Joe Rogan 12:07 So, when you say you're getting, uh, inflammation in your hands, like carpal tunnel type? Is that kind of like...

Scott Storch 12:12 Yeah, kinda like... Yeah, sometimes things-

Joe Rogan 12:13 Yeah.

Scott Storch 12:13 Like, sometimes if it's cold and my hands, it's like, freezing or something-

Joe Rogan 12:16 Mm-hmm.

Scott Storch 12:16 ... I can't really, like, go in and like...

Joe Rogan 12:18 Do you ever use CBD?

Scott Storch 12:19 Huh?

Joe Rogan 12:20 Do you ever use CBD or turmeric?

Scott Storch 12:22 ... I, yeah, turmeric, yeah, like, I do that ty- stuff. I do, like, the little shots, like-

Joe Rogan 12:26 Yeah, you should do that all the time.

Scott Storch 12:27 ... the raw, raw ginger, the raw-

Joe Rogan 12:29 Yeah.

Scott Storch 12:30 Yeah. There's a place in LA that I like, uh, that th- they don't have it in Miami is, like, my fa- I'm, I'm real tight with R- I don't know if you know Rick Solomon.

Joe Rogan 12:37 No.

Scott Storch 12:37 He owns this thing, Sunlife, and it's fucking ... They have great shit there. So I do that. Uh-

Joe Rogan 12:43 Oh, the Sunlife place in, in, uh, California.

Scott Storch 12:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:46 Yeah.

Scott Storch 12:47 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:47 Oh, I do. Yeah.

Scott Storch 12:48 Yes. Rick is fucking-

Joe Rogan 12:50 (clears throat)

Scott Storch 12:50 ... he's been an inspiration to me and, like, you know, everybody knows my story and, you know, he, I look up to him because he was able to walk away from drugs-

Joe Rogan 12:58 Right.

Scott Storch 12:59 ... very easily and stay there. For me, I have a hard time with it. Um, I still struggle and, like, it's not drugs. It's, to put it bluntly, it's pussy and drugs together.

Joe Rogan 13:15 (laughs)

Scott Storch 13:15 Okay? (laughs) It's a hell of a combination and drug sex and all that shit and, like, um, you know, you get caught up in that wave and, like, it starts glamorously in your career of doing drugs and it's just a fucking ... It just turns into something real ugly, so-

Joe Rogan 13:31 And it, it also-

Scott Storch 13:32 So he walked away from me for a while. He was like-

Joe Rogan 13:34 (clears throat)

Scott Storch 13:35 ... "Bro, you're fucking up again." Da, da, da, da. But I'm in a great place now, man. I got good people around me and, uh, I smoke and, you know, I make my music and I chill these days, man. I'm like-

Joe Rogan 13:48 That's great.

Scott Storch 13:49 I've graduated. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:50 I was trying to, uh, tell you about your hands, like if you, if you're getting inflammation and you're taking hydrogen water, like hydrogen water would be great, but if you really wanna cut it down, what we were talking about earlier is the way to cut it down. Stop eating things that give you inflammation. That's the big one. That'll change everything.

Scott Storch 14:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:06 Cut out all the sugar and the bread and you'll be amazed at how well you feel.

Scott Storch 14:10 Bread.

Joe Rogan 14:10 Yeah.

Scott Storch 14:10 Like I'm not really like a sugar guy, like some people-

Joe Rogan 14:13 Bread.

Scott Storch 14:13 ... eat sweets and shit.

Joe Rogan 14:14 Mm-hmm.

Scott Storch 14:15 Like me, I'll go ... Lately, because I'm trying to lose, like-

Joe Rogan 14:19 Okay.

Scott Storch 14:19 ... a lot of weight, I've been eating fruit, like constantly eating, like-

Joe Rogan 14:22 Fruit's great.

Scott Storch 14:23 And I feel so much better 'cause like the m- I, I, uh, drink water till I'm blue in the face and I'm not hydrated. I eat fruits and shit like that and it's like I feel like it just sticks to your organs and, like, it's just-

Joe Rogan 14:35 Well, there's a lot of vitamins and-

Scott Storch 14:35 A lot of watermelon I eat.

Joe Rogan 14:37 Well, uh, watermelon's fantastic.

Scott Storch 14:38 I love watermelon and apples.

Joe Rogan 14:40 Do you take, um, any sort of, um, electrolytes? Do you-

Scott Storch 14:44 I do. I do. I mean ...

Joe Rogan 14:46 Regularly?

Scott Storch 14:48 Um, mm, like, uh-

Joe Rogan 14:50 I'm just trying to help you.

Scott Storch 14:52 Gatorade, but it's like-

Joe Rogan 14:52 I'm just trying to help you with your hands.

Scott Storch 14:52 Yeah, Gatorade, but, um, there's this other stuff. I v- I don't even know what it's called, but it's like a powder. It's like supposed to be less fattening.

Joe Rogan 14:59 Like Almond?

Scott Storch 14:59 And you just put it in your water.

Joe Rogan 15:00 Mm-hmm.

Scott Storch 15:01 And it's like an accelerator of the hydration.

Joe Rogan 15:02 Like liquid IV or something like that?

Scott Storch 15:04 Something, yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:04 Yeah.

Scott Storch 15:04 I don't even know.

Joe Rogan 15:05 There's a bunch of those that are really good.

Scott Storch 15:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:07 But yeah, that's, you know, you could, you could take care of that. Like obviously your fingers are still working, but if you're starting to st- feel, like real discomfort, there's some things you could do.

Scott Storch 15:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:16 CBD's a big one.

Scott Storch 15:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:17 CBD helps so much. My friend Dave Foley, uh, he, uh, had arthritis to the point where his hands were like totally crooked and couldn't straighten his hands out.

Scott Storch 15:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:25 He started taking CBD and it all went away.

Scott Storch 15:27 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 15:27 Yeah.

Scott Storch 15:28 The benefits of ... I just can't-

Joe Rogan 15:29 And it's incredible. It really is incredible.

Scott Storch 15:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:32 But the diet is a big one too, so.

Scott Storch 15:33 I think I'm getting my fair share of, uh, CBD and THC.

Joe Rogan 15:37 From the weed.

Scott Storch 15:38 From, uh, not just that, not from the flower, but I, I like edibles.

Joe Rogan 15:42 (clears throat) Yeah.

Scott Storch 15:42 But not like distillate.

Joe Rogan 15:44 I know what you mean.

Scott Storch 15:45 I'm, I'm into rosin edibles.

Joe Rogan 15:48 You, the, the difference is is CBD you can isolate just the CBD.

Scott Storch 15:52 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:52 And they can make it in much higher concentrates.

Scott Storch 15:54 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 15:55 Yeah, like, uh, I love this shit when I have muscle soreness is the CBD. Um, no affiliation. cbdMD has this product called Freeze. It's 3,000 milligrams CBD. Just blasting-

Scott Storch 16:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:05 It's a roll-on. It's a roll-on. So if you have-

Scott Storch 16:08 (laughs) Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 16:08 ... like sore muscles?

Scott Storch 16:09 That's easy.

Joe Rogan 16:09 Yeah.

Scott Storch 16:09 Hey, all kinds of great-

Joe Rogan 16:10 It's fucking great. I love it. But it, they have great gummies and oils and CBD is fanta-

Scott Storch 16:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:16 Any time you can eliminate inflammation in your life, that's good.

Scott Storch 16:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:20 Whether it's your personal life or your body.

Scott Storch 16:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:22 Just eliminate all the inflammation.

Scott Storch 16:24 This, so many people tell me this wave of like sea moss.

Joe Rogan 16:27 Sea moss?

Scott Storch 16:28 Yeah, like people like to ... There's the benefits of doing-

Joe Rogan 16:30 Are you hearing about sea moss, Jimmy? I've heard of it.

Scott Storch 16:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:33 Uh, you hearing about people eating it? Uh, no, I don't know. Yeah.

Scott Storch 16:38 I don't know. I haven't tried it, but-

Joe Rogan 16:40 I'm a big believer in ribeyes.

Scott Storch 16:42 Yeah, ribeye. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:43 Medium rare.

Scott Storch 16:44 Me too. I love that.

Joe Rogan 16:44 Little salt. (laughs)

Scott Storch 16:45 Butterflied with a char.

Joe Rogan 16:47 Yeah, I'm not really, um, into your m- sea moss. (laughs)

Scott Storch 16:51 No.

Joe Rogan 16:52 Fuck outta here.

Scott Storch 16:52 I've never tried the shit, but everybody's like-

Joe Rogan 16:54 I feel like-

Scott Storch 16:54 ... you should do sea moss. God.

Joe Rogan 16:55 Most of that shit is starvation food.

Scott Storch 16:57 Really?

Joe Rogan 16:59 Yeah. People eat it when they couldn't find fish.

Scott Storch 17:01 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 17:02 If you could find fish, you ate a fucking fish. Why would you eat that stupid moss, right?

Scott Storch 17:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:06 (laughs) That's-

Scott Storch 17:07 Uh-

Joe Rogan 17:07 I think that's what-

Scott Storch 17:08 Now I know.

Joe Rogan 17:08 ... most vegetables are. Most vegetables are starvation food.

Scott Storch 17:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:12 I think, uh-

Scott Storch 17:13 I fuck with salads. I l- actually enjoy salads-

Joe Rogan 17:14 I fuck with salads.

Scott Storch 17:15 ... but I do 'em, I'm gonna put dressing on it and shit and, like-

Joe Rogan 17:19 Yeah.

Scott Storch 17:19 ... destroy its-

Joe Rogan 17:20 Right. Some ranch.

Scott Storch 17:22 (laughs) A little Caesar vibe. I just like oil-

Joe Rogan 17:24 Extra pepper.

Scott Storch 17:24 ... and vinegar. Olive oil and vinegar is all I like on salads. But I like salads.

Joe Rogan 17:27 That's good.

Scott Storch 17:27 So I eat salads.

Joe Rogan 17:28 Yeah, I do.

Scott Storch 17:29 Like (clears throat) I'm not like religious about it, but I just, I know that when I'm only eating like meat and steak and eggs and ... I feel way better. It just, I f-

Joe Rogan 17:37 Yeah.

Scott Storch 17:37 Everything feels like it's in tune. My brain works better. My body feels more relaxed. It's, it's a tangible thing.

Joe Rogan 17:44 Yeah.

Scott Storch 17:44 When I eat a lot of bullshit, I feel it.

Joe Rogan 17:47 Dude, I met these f- coming from like being a fucking in the middle of nowhere kid, like not a rich kid, not part of like some socialite type shit. I, I came up to like a certain level of people that was like pretty insane, like Russian multi-billionaires and all this kind of-

Scott Storch 18:02 What is that like-

Joe Rogan 18:03 ... weird.

Scott Storch 18:03 ... hanging around with those cats?

Joe Rogan 18:04 Yeah, it was fucking bizarre. But I remember- That must be weird because they'll get you killed.

Scott Storch 18:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:09 Right?

Scott Storch 18:10 It, it could happen, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:11 (clears throat)

Scott Storch 18:11 But like I'm hanging out with this one guy who's probably one of the richest men in the world and we're eating borscht. He's like, "Scotty."

Joe Rogan 18:19 (laughs)

Scott Storch 18:19 "You should eat soup every day. It's good. I know what I'm telling you."... I'm like, "Okay." So, I eat a lot of soup. (laughs)

Narrator 18:26 Soup's good. Soup is veg- best, basically vegetable juice.

Scott Storch 18:29 I'm just saying, like, the hot broths and shit-

Narrator 18:31 Yeah.

Scott Storch 18:31 ... like that is just super good for you.

Narrator 18:32 It's good.

Scott Storch 18:33 You'll live longer.

Narrator 18:34 Bro, I used to live in Los Angeles. I used to go to Jerry's Famous Deli and get-

Scott Storch 18:38 (laughs) Jerry's.

Narrator 18:38 ... and get their chicken noodle soup. They had the-

Scott Storch 18:41 It's good.

Narrator 18:41 ... best-

Scott Storch 18:41 ... with the matzo ball.

Narrator 18:42 Oh, my God, their chicken noodle soup.

Scott Storch 18:44 No chives, though, I tell them.

Narrator 18:45 Do they put chives in it normally?

Scott Storch 18:47 Jerry's-

Narrator 18:47 Yeah?

Scott Storch 18:47 ... does, yeah. But I- I like-

Narrator 18:49 Not chives kind?

Scott Storch 18:50 I like dill.

Narrator 18:51 Dill?

Scott Storch 18:52 Dill. Yeah.

Narrator 18:53 Okay.

Scott Storch 18:53 Like, I got, like, a Russian nanny and different-

Narrator 18:56 (laughs)

Scott Storch 18:56 ... things like that that work for ... And they put that fresh dill in, oh, my God, at the end, that just changes everything. That's like, that's like mama never made.

Narrator 19:04 A good ... If it ... Like, you think about how cold Russia is, of course they make a good soup.

Scott Storch 19:08 Yeah, yeah.

Narrator 19:08 Anywhere that's cold is gonna make a good soup.

Scott Storch 19:10 Yeah.

Narrator 19:11 You don't hear, like, soup from Texas.

Scott Storch 19:13 No.

Narrator 19:14 Right?

Scott Storch 19:14 Eh.

Narrator 19:15 You hear chili.

19:16 Yeah.

19:16 You don't hear soup. You don't hear about their soup.

Scott Storch 19:18 Queso.

Narrator 19:19 Queso? (laughs)

19:20 That's close to soup.

19:20 (laughs) That's kinda soup?

Scott Storch 19:21 I had the butternut squash soup where you put me at last night at this Four Seasons in the ... That's just not my kinda soup.

Narrator 19:27 Butternut squash soup.

Scott Storch 19:27 It was good, but it's just not, like-

Narrator 19:28 It's pretty nice.

Scott Storch 19:28 ... it's not my favorite.

Narrator 19:29 It's basically vegetable juice.

Scott Storch 19:30 Yeah. Yeah, it's good.

Narrator 19:31 That's where you're- you're drinking hot vegetable juice, but of course-

Scott Storch 19:33 It's very good.

Narrator 19:34 ... it's good for you.

Scott Storch 19:34 Like, table cream, all of it, it's just-

Narrator 19:35 Right. Oh, that kinda stuff, where they make-

Scott Storch 19:37 Yeah.

Narrator 19:37 ... the little ... the white swirls on top-

Scott Storch 19:39 Yeah.

Narrator 19:39 ... like it's a latte?

Scott Storch 19:40 Yeah.

Narrator 19:40 Fancy.

Scott Storch 19:41 Yeah.

Narrator 19:42 Very fancy, Scott.

Scott Storch 19:44 (laughs)

Narrator 19:45 (laughs)

Scott Storch 19:47 So ... So, yeah, music, we started, like, talking about how my music career evolved.

Narrator 19:53 Pull up to that mic.

Scott Storch 19:54 Huh? So-

Narrator 19:56 Yeah.

Scott Storch 19:56 ... earlier we were talking about where did it start, and I went-

Narrator 19:58 Yeah.

Scott Storch 19:58 ... all the way back. So, now I'm hanging with this guy Richard, that my- ... You know, the videographer I was saying that my- ... that I met in my dad's office. He took me in. Started making a- an attempt to be- professionalize myself as a musician. Joined The Roots, we got a record deal. Um, and I- I loved it. You know, I was now, like, a very, like, lucky guy to be involved in something cool, but I- I was bringing something real major to the table within the group. And I just felt like after a while, I wasn't appreciated, and that I was just gonna be remembered as the guy who played keys for The Roots. Like ... And I wanted more than that. I left the group for a multitude of reasons. Some I usually don't talk about, but, like, I- ... You know, boo-hoo, I felt some reverse racism. I know that people have dealt with shit, like fucked up shit, and ... But I was just, like, kinda mortified one time on the stage, and I just remember I'm performing with The Roots at, uh, in New York this event called the Black Lily, and playing the keyboards, backing everybody up, and this and that, and somebody was rapping, da-da-da-da-da-da. They point at me, "The white devil." Something, and I was just like, "Uh, what the fuck is happening here?" Like, I- I'm the most-

Narrator 21:21 Were they serious?

Scott Storch 21:21 ... I'm the most loving-

Narrator 21:22 Or were they joking about it?

Scott Storch 21:23 No, no, it was fucked up shit, bro.

Narrator 21:25 Damn.

Scott Storch 21:25 And it really hurt me, because I'm like ... I don't see color. I don't see any of that shit. I'm the most, like, just coolest motherfucker in that aspect. Like, it's ... To me, racism bothers me. But it was like, you know, my- my family now were not representing for me, and that- that ... to let that happen, and it just combined with-

Narrator 21:42 So, someone on the stage said that?

Scott Storch 21:44 Yes, one of the rappers. I'm not gonna say names, but just-

Narrator 21:47 Goddamn.

Scott Storch 21:47 ... I- it- shit was just, like, "How is this happening right now?"

Narrator 21:50 Goddam.

Scott Storch 21:50 And, you know, I felt like all the credit, uh, for all the, like, big melodies and stuff that I was creating for the group was just being swept under the rug, and, like, I said, "I gotta leave this group." And I'm dating this girl at the time who was, like, urging me not to. She was saying, "You're gonna be the Pete Best of The Roots."

Narrator 22:13 Mm.

Scott Storch 22:13 You know who Pete Best is?

Narrator 22:15 Yeah, The Beatle.

Scott Storch 22:16 He left The Beatles, yeah.

Narrator 22:17 Yeah.

Scott Storch 22:18 So, she was like, "You're gonna be the Pete Best of The Roots." I was like, "That's cool." She actually dumped me. (laughs)

Narrator 22:23 (laughs)

Scott Storch 22:24 And, uh, and I- I- I, um, continued on my journey attempting to be a music producer and not join bands. And I met this guy through the whole process of being in The Roots. His name was Derrick Jaxson. And he and I ... He embraced me and said, you know, "You're so talented." Like, "Let's give it a go." And we would take these trips from Philly to New York and just go to every A&R, every fucking, uh, label, trying ... People that ... Contacts that this guy Derrick had in New York. He was from New York. Um, you know, like, he would just use them, and then the first week we were doing that, we got a couple bites. And one was ... My first client was Busta Rhymes.

Narrator 23:08 Wow.

Scott Storch 23:08 Who was ... I'll never forget it. Busta, like, believed in me. He's like, "All right." And I went to the studio and we made a record. One shot, one kill, baby. That's how it is. Like, you get one shot, you know? It's not like ... And we made Blowed Out, which was, uh, on his album, Anarchy. Um, and, uh, we also got that same week, maybe three days later, Capone-N-Noreaga and, uh, C.N.N., the album. You know, Nore's got his, like, his, like, you know ... His whole world is podcasts now, so he's proud of that guy. Great guy. But, yeah, they believed in me. And the day I went in, I'll never forget it, Capone, who was partner, was coming home from jail that day. And the theme of the day was I guess he got him some girls and, like, like, on the way to the studio to come work, and now he's, like ... All day, he kept saying, "It's nothing. It's nothing to come home from jail with these girls in your limousine and come work with me and Scotty," and this and that. It was, it was just amazing day. We made music. We made, like, three. And then I was off to the races, man. I was making music.

Narrator 24:14 Wow.

Scott Storch 24:16 And, uh, a whole bunch of cool stuff in between there, and then still ain't make no money, but I'm now, like, doing shit.

Joe Rogan 24:24 ... is that you? (alarm ringing) .

Scott Storch 24:25 Yeah, let me shut this off.

Joe Rogan 24:26 Isn't it funny that, that fear of, like, the, the Pete Best type thing? That's such a real thing.

Scott Storch 24:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:33 In the beginning, you don't have any idea what your future's gonna be.

Scott Storch 24:35 Like, did I, like... And I would see shit on the-

Joe Rogan 24:37 Yeah.

Scott Storch 24:38 Like, they're appearing here or they're doing this and that. I'd be like, "Uh, fuck, but what did I do?"

Joe Rogan 24:43 Right.

Scott Storch 24:43 ... but I, I held in there. And then, um, I always... Uh, a lot of people say this, but I'm like a fucking very harmonious person. I always do good for everybody. I never like... I'm- I- I'm, you can accuse me of being a lot of things, but being an asshole, I'm not. So when I was in, uh... My first trip to LA, all right, I went to LA to perform and I did this, this, uh, open mic at the Martini Lounge. It was my first time ever going to California and it was like, it was a Roots event. I wasn't in a group anymore, but like, whatever I had to do, I was gonna make a few 100 bucks to go play background on this, on this thing. It wasn't the Roots. It was like an open mic with peop- random people coming and this and that.

Joe Rogan 25:28 Okay.

Scott Storch 25:29 So I did this thing and who do I see come up to me but a chick I knew from Philly and she was like, "Storch, what up, what up." She's like, "You're not gonna believe this but I signed a record deal with Dr. Dre and Aftermath." And I was like, "Wow, that's crazy." So she- she's like, "I'm gonna hook you up with Dre. You were always fucking good to me in Philly and you never tried to smash. You let me go in the studio and we did cool stuff together." And like it was a platonic thing, like if... She was my homegirl.

Joe Rogan 26:00 Okay.

Scott Storch 26:00 And, um, sure enough I go and I meet up with Dre. I'm waiting for him to come out. I's- I'm in the lobby like nervous as hell. I don't have anything to play for him. I have my fingers, that's about it. And, uh, I go into a room and he sits me down. He's like, "I heard you're good at them keys." I start playing for him and this and that. He's real quiet and just like listening. I'm like, "Ah, he need... Nothing's coming from this."

Joe Rogan 26:28 (laughs)

Scott Storch 26:29 "I'm gonna, I'm gonna go home sad today." He leaves the room. I'm still sitting in there. I'm like, "I don't know if I should be just leaving or I'm supposed to stay in here." And this dude, Larry Chapman, his like, one of his like head dudes comes back in and says, "Dre wants you to stay here for a long time. He's gonna, he's gonna get you a hotel and here's some money." It was like, "Vroom." It was like, "Really? Okay." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:54 (laughs) Dre wants you to stay here for a long time.

Scott Storch 26:56 Yeah, he was just like-

Joe Rogan 26:57 (laughs)

Scott Storch 26:57 He's like, "Let me know if... Dre wants you here, man." Like, "You can stay." 'Cause I was-

Joe Rogan 27:00 Wow.

Scott Storch 27:00 ... I was gonna get on a plane back to Philly that night.

Joe Rogan 27:03 Hmm.

Scott Storch 27:03 And I remember I went back to the hotel, I got more of my shit and now I'm being switched to like a fancy hotel. And I'm like chilling and I got some money. I went and rented a fucking 5 Series BMW-

Joe Rogan 27:16 (laughs)

Scott Storch 27:16 ... and I was like, "Wow, I am in LA for the first time."

Joe Rogan 27:20 (laughs)

Scott Storch 27:20 "I have money. I just met Dre. I'm about to make a fucking album with Dr. Dre."

Joe Rogan 27:24 Wow.

Scott Storch 27:24 The next day I go, I go to the studio, I meet up with Dre and he's telling me all kinds of cool shit, man. Like he accepted me into his world, like it was like such a... It was surreal, bro. I- I- I-

Joe Rogan 27:37 It's a movie scene.

Scott Storch 27:38 It was surreal. And like I got this-

Joe Rogan 27:39 Dre wants you to stay for a long time. (laughs)

Scott Storch 27:42 I got, I got this, I got this, uh... He's telling me, "I got this rapper that, uh, is really talented. I believe in him, da-da-da-da-da. He's a white boy," and this and that, and in walks Eminem-

Joe Rogan 27:52 Wow.

Scott Storch 27:52 ... and like he let me finish up some record that he was doing with him. It was like one of Em's first releases, that Just the Two of Us. You know what I'm talking about?

Joe Rogan 28:01 Mm-hmm.

Scott Storch 28:01 And I played a little keys on that, a little bit of... The next day, me and Dre went in to work on his project and we made Big Ego's, which made it to the... That's like that one shot, one kill thing. Like that first day worked out, it led to me being along Dre's, you know, side and in his, his, uh, camp for a very long time.

Joe Rogan 28:22 But there's just a handful of dudes like you out there in the world that I call like a musical magician. You know, there's- there's people that people call upon, you know, like, "You gotta get Storch." Like-

Scott Storch 28:34 I'm a producer-producer.

Joe Rogan 28:35 Right. But like what is that? Like what separates you from other musicians that makes you this savant? Do- do you think about it or would that take away the magic?

Scott Storch 28:44 Bro, I can barely tie my shoelaces.

Joe Rogan 28:46 (laughs) Right.

Scott Storch 28:48 But-

Joe Rogan 28:48 But you know how to bang out some beats.

Scott Storch 28:50 ... this shit, I got this shit.

Joe Rogan 28:51 Right.

Scott Storch 28:51 I was telling you about that Russian oligarch, okay? He looked at me one time and he says, "Scotty, you are not playing this keyboard. You are fucking the piano." Like-

Joe Rogan 29:01 (laughs)

Scott Storch 29:01 ... "I don't know what you're doing with your..." It's wrong. I- I'm not an educated guy but like I have rhythm like on some different shit, like Bob James. Like your, your boys, the, the, uh, Black, the, the Black Keys.

Joe Rogan 29:14 Black Keys.

Scott Storch 29:14 Like-

Joe Rogan 29:15 Love those guys.

Scott Storch 29:17 They... Look, not to jump around too much but working with them is the first time like I feel like I did anything good. I can't explain it.

Joe Rogan 29:26 In what way?

Scott Storch 29:26 I have all these hits like the Candy Shop-

Joe Rogan 29:28 Right.

Scott Storch 29:29 ... this, that, uh-

Joe Rogan 29:29 Yeah.

Scott Storch 29:30 ... Beyonce, every single thing. I feel like the first time I had really got into it on some real, m- touch the culture real shit. Not what's people, like trap music and dumb shit like that.

Joe Rogan 29:44 Yeah.

Scott Storch 29:44 Like this is like the real as it gets and I got to use these vintage keyboards. I'm playing shit with a wah-wah pedal on a keyboard and like going crazy and like if you look at my Instagram sometime you'll see some of the shit that like I'm doing like in their studio.

Joe Rogan 29:58 I do. I watch it all the time.

Scott Storch 29:59 Their studio is insane, man. Like, and those toys, like I was really tapping in.

Joe Rogan 30:04 Really?

Scott Storch 30:04 Yeah, yeah. It was so much fun, but I-

Joe Rogan 30:07 I just love those two guys. They're just... And they're so fucking talented, man. We saw them out here at Stubs.

Scott Storch 30:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:14 Fuck, it was so fun, man.

Scott Storch 30:16 Yeah, man. And something about Nashville is a great place to make music, man.

Joe Rogan 30:19 That... Well, think about how much great music has come out of there-

Scott Storch 30:23 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 30:23 ... and then the memory of that shit is burned into the city.

Scott Storch 30:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:25 I- I believe in that. I believe that places have memory.

Scott Storch 30:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 30:29 You know, I really do.

Scott Storch 30:30 Yeah, you feel it. You, uh-

Joe Rogan 30:32 I think there's a, there's an element-... I mean, it's not everything about a place, but I think places have memory, you know?

Scott Storch 30:39 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 30:39 I, I think that a place like Nashville, I mean ... And also, it's small enough, 'cause it's, 'cause it's kind of a tight community. Everybody kinda knows everybody.

Scott Storch 30:47 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 30:48 There's so many musicians there.

Scott Storch 30:49 It's a music town.

Joe Rogan 30:49 Kid Rock's there. Black Keys are there.

Scott Storch 30:51 I was just with him.

Joe Rogan 30:52 Yeah, Kid Rock ... (laughs)

Scott Storch 30:53 (laughs) He told me he was ... He went, he ...

Joe Rogan 30:55 Yeah, I ran into him at the UFC. Kid Rock's ... My favorite fucking thing of all time was going to his giant tract of land in Nashville, and seeing his fucking White House (laughs) .

Scott Storch 31:05 I ... Yeah, like, with the rotating dining room and the fucking crazy son of a gun pool-

Joe Rogan 31:10 He's, he's out of his mind.

Scott Storch 31:11 He did well, man.

Joe Rogan 31:12 Yeah.

Scott Storch 31:13 He was one of the ... I know when I met him, I met him, he used to come up to the studio when we were making The Chronic album, which ... Right? I, I think it was like, it was like visiting, I think, with, um, a lot with Eminem, and I don't know if he was doing some other stuff. But he was, he was there quite a bit. He was a cool guy, man.

Joe Rogan 31:30 Yeah, he's always at the UFC with Trump.

Scott Storch 31:32 Ah.

Joe Rogan 31:32 It's hilarious, because Trump comes into American Badass, the crowd goes nuts when they know he's there, and then Kid Rock's behind him.

Scott Storch 31:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:38 It's like the Republican Avengers.

Scott Storch 31:40 Dude, I performed at Mar-a-Lago not long ago.

Joe Rogan 31:42 No way.

Scott Storch 31:43 Yeah, I jammed out. I did a Blacks for Trump, uh, thing, and I ... It was cool, man.

Joe Rogan 31:48 Jeff Dye was telling me he's done standup at Mar-a-Lago.

Scott Storch 31:51 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 31:51 How crazy is that?

Scott Storch 31:53 Yeah, that's a fucking ... He's a genius. I, I really ... I don't know. He, he got a sick, sick operation over there. That Mar-a-Lago is insane, bro.

Joe Rogan 32:02 I need to check it out. We thought about doing a ... We do this podcast called Protect Our Parks with Shane Gillis, Ari Shaffir, and Mark Normand. It's a crazy pod- ... We get hammered and drink beer-

Scott Storch 32:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:12 ... out of, like, this giant freedom bong that's like an eagle's asshole you're drinking the beer out of.

Scott Storch 32:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:16 And we, we talked about doing one from Mar-a-Lago.

Scott Storch 32:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:20 We might do that still.

Scott Storch 32:21 That's cool. I'm supposed to go there. I think I'm gonna go there for a s- ... Uh, on the 13th, they're doing some kind of, um, event, like, uh, Roaring '20s vibe dinner, and then, like, a whole weekend of st-

Joe Rogan 32:32 Oh, roaring '20s? Like, you-

Scott Storch 32:33 It's like-

Joe Rogan 32:33 ... like, you wear the outfits?

Scott Storch 32:34 I'm not gonna, but, like, their theme-

Joe Rogan 32:35 Bro, I would wear one of them outfits.

Scott Storch 32:37 ... was, I think, is-

Joe Rogan 32:37 That'd be badass.

Scott Storch 32:38 ... zoot suits. Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:39 What did they wear? It was, like, a roaring '20s outfit.

Scott Storch 32:41 Zoot suit.

Joe Rogan 32:42 I would imagine that's like, uh-

Scott Storch 32:43 Double-breasted.

Joe Rogan 32:44 Yeah, like the Peaky Blinders, what those-

Scott Storch 32:46 Yeah, I love Peaky Blinders.

Joe Rogan 32:47 ... dudes wore.

Scott Storch 32:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:47 (laughs) What did they wear in the '20s?

Scott Storch 32:49 The Shelbys.

Joe Rogan 32:50 Zoot suits, man. What did they wear? Roaring '20s men.

Scott Storch 32:57 (laughs)

Narrator 32:59 Here you go.

Joe Rogan 32:59 Oh, yeah.

Scott Storch 33:00 There you go.

Joe Rogan 33:00 Oh, that looks slick.

Scott Storch 33:02 Look at those hats. Look at that.

Joe Rogan 33:03 They all wore hats. Isn't that crazy?

Scott Storch 33:04 Some Lucky Luciano shit going on.

Joe Rogan 33:06 Isn't that crazy that, like, nice hats just went away? We were talking about that the other day. We were watching an old-school fight with Jack Johnson, and every man on the street, like, waiting in line for the fight, all the people in the audience for the fight, all of them had fancy hats on.

Scott Storch 33:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:21 Men used to just wear fancy hats. Something happened. Fancy hats just fell apart. Like, if you were in the fancy hat business in 1920, you'd be like, "Bro, we got it forever."

Scott Storch 33:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:32 Like, uh, fancy hats-

Scott Storch 33:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:33 ... ain't going away. But fancy hats, completely fucking went. If you wear a fancy-

Scott Storch 33:36 There was a couple companies ... A friend of mine was wearing a hat. He's like, "You know, this hat's, like, four grand." I'm like, "It's, like, some fancy company that got-"

Joe Rogan 33:43 I'm sure there's companies, but it's not like they ... Everybody's ...

Scott Storch 33:45 No, everybody's-

Joe Rogan 33:45 It was baseball hats, everybody buys baseball hats.

Scott Storch 33:48 Yeah, just-

Joe Rogan 33:48 You know? But fancy hats? They just went away.

Scott Storch 33:50 No.

Joe Rogan 33:50 If you would've asked those fancy hat people, "Do you think one day the president will be wearing a baseball hat or a fancy hat?" They'd be like, "A fancy hat."

Scott Storch 33:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:59 "He's the fucking president." Nope. Make America great again.

Scott Storch 34:01 There we go. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:02 (laughs)

Scott Storch 34:03 True.

Joe Rogan 34:03 Baseball hat with a suit on.

Scott Storch 34:04 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 34:05 (sighs) It's-

Scott Storch 34:06 You know what?

Joe Rogan 34:06 Fancy hats just fell out of style.

Scott Storch 34:08 Yeah, I think, um ...

Joe Rogan 34:09 You can't bring it back either.

Scott Storch 34:10 It's become a much more casual world, I believe.

Joe Rogan 34:13 Yeah.

Scott Storch 34:13 And it's like, I mean, sometimes I always bitch, like, "Ah, if people knew how to dress, when we used to go out, I would put on a sport coat and wear ... You know?" But, like, at the end of the day, like, I get it.

Joe Rogan 34:22 It's all bullshit.

Scott Storch 34:23 Yeah, that's what it is.

Joe Rogan 34:23 It's all bullshit.

Scott Storch 34:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:24 It's nice to dress up sometimes.

Scott Storch 34:25 Sometimes.

Joe Rogan 34:26 It's fun.

Scott Storch 34:26 It's a pain in the ass sometimes.

Joe Rogan 34:27 Yeah.

Scott Storch 34:27 Like-

Joe Rogan 34:27 It's a pain in the ass.

Scott Storch 34:28 Lately, I've just been changing my whole fashion ways. Like, a friend of mine said something, um, he's like, "Even though I have s- ... nice things," he's like, "You don't need a Ferrari. Be the Ferrari."

Joe Rogan 34:42 Ooh.

Scott Storch 34:43 When you walk in a room, there's a fucking-

Joe Rogan 34:44 Ooh.

Scott Storch 34:44 You're on South Beach, and all these fucking guys that barely have a pot to piss in are getting out of the Lambo and the fucking, uh, valet, and they're iced out and shit. Like, I'm the king of that shit. I was filthy rich and did all that shit, and I might as well have just landed a fucking spaceship on top of the club. Like, I was doing everything. But lately, I just ... It turns me off. I look at myself, and I look like a ... I feel like a poser.

Joe Rogan 35:08 Hmm.

Scott Storch 35:08 Like, I feel like the richest guy in the room's wearing a fucking, a fucking, uh, a bare-bones, no-diamonds-type shit. Like, I'm just-

Joe Rogan 35:15 Well, look at Elon Musk.

Scott Storch 35:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:17 Dude wears Occupy Mars T-shirts.

Scott Storch 35:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:20 Doesn't even have a watch.

Scott Storch 35:21 Yep.

Joe Rogan 35:22 You know? He's just-

Scott Storch 35:22 So that's the theory.

Joe Rogan 35:23 ... just hanging.

Scott Storch 35:23 That's where I'm at.

Joe Rogan 35:24 You don't ... I think what happens is in the beginning you want everybody to know you're doing well, so you have all your stuff on.

Scott Storch 35:30 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 35:30 You, you dress real nice. You know? You're like, "Wow, Scott looks good."

Scott Storch 35:33 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 35:33 "You look sharp." But then, when you're undeniable, you reach a point in your life where you, you're just like, "What am I ... Who am I doing this for?"

Scott Storch 35:40 Yeah, well-

Joe Rogan 35:40 "This is stupid."

Scott Storch 35:41 ... if you're like me and you have a point in your life where you had $100 million and you were trying to impress everybody and you fucking didn't have any respect for buddy ... Like, my financial manager walked away from me back in the day. He said, "You're unmanageable."

Joe Rogan 35:54 Why? What, you were going crazy?

Scott Storch 35:55 I was going ... I was spending so much money.

Joe Rogan 35:57 But look, you're still here. Yay!

Scott Storch 35:58 I had fun. I had tons of fun.

Joe Rogan 35:59 Bitch had a good time. Bitch had a good time.

Scott Storch 36:00 But, but when you lose everything-

Joe Rogan 36:02 Yeah.

Scott Storch 36:03 ... you wanna, like, fake it and be like, "Oh, no-"

Joe Rogan 36:05 Oh.

Scott Storch 36:05 "... I still got it," and, like, I'm the guy with the most obnoxious set of diamonds.

Joe Rogan 36:09 Right.

Scott Storch 36:09 And I'm broke as shit, 'cause I just wanted the look of art. My ego wouldn't let me let go of that shit.

Joe Rogan 36:14 That's a negative feedback loop.

Scott Storch 36:16 No.

Joe Rogan 36:16 'Cause that doesn't feed into art either.

Scott Storch 36:18 No, it doesn't.

Joe Rogan 36:19 It's the opposite.

Scott Storch 36:19 It doesn't. I had to get rid of-

Joe Rogan 36:20 It's the opposite of art.

Scott Storch 36:21 ... all of that.

Joe Rogan 36:22 Yeah.

Scott Storch 36:22 I had to, like, really take it back to nothing. Like, I don't care about labels and shit. I like nice things.

Joe Rogan 36:27 'Cause-

Scott Storch 36:28 Look, not ... I don't, like, have to do the pull-up on the club. But, look, there's nothing wrong with a fucking 911. Like, that shit's a great car. Like-

Joe Rogan 36:36 Yeah, they're just amazing engineering.

Scott Storch 36:37 ... there's room for anything. Yeah, like-

Joe Rogan 36:38 Yeah.

Scott Storch 36:38 ... I do it for me now. Like, whatever I do, and, um-... I'm just like, I'm really getting into my music, I'm getting into a lot of things.

Joe Rogan 36:48 I appreciate both things. I appreciate people who dress real nice, and I appreciate people who don't give a fuck. I think there's a place for everybody.

Scott Storch 36:55 There's a happy medium.

Joe Rogan 36:56 Yeah. And then the stuff, stuff is not life. Life is not your stuff.

Scott Storch 37:00 No.

Joe Rogan 37:01 But some stuff is fucking cool.

Scott Storch 37:03 Hell, yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:03 Like, Katt Williams when he was here, he wasn't even living here or staying here and somehow or another he got a electric Rolls-Royce. (laughs) So he's here-

Scott Storch 37:11 Specter.

Joe Rogan 37:11 That means he's here for a day-

Scott Storch 37:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:13 ... to do a show. And wasn't he doing a show somewhere else or something, like an arena somewhere? But one of the things he said, he said, "When you're sitting in this car, you know where you spent your money."

Scott Storch 37:23 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:24 'Cause it's like, it's, w- you go, "Oh, I know why this is"-

Scott Storch 37:27 No, that's real talk.

Joe Rogan 37:28 ... "$600,000. Look how fucking amazing this thing is."

Scott Storch 37:30 No, yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:31 Lights on the ceiling and-

Scott Storch 37:31 I, listen, I love nice things.

Joe Rogan 37:33 Yeah.

Scott Storch 37:33 I just like them for a different reasons though.

Joe Rogan 37:35 Right. You don't like them for showing off. You like them because you like them 'cause they're awesome.

Scott Storch 37:39 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:39 Yeah.

Scott Storch 37:39 There's nothing wrong with luxury. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:41 Yes.

Scott Storch 37:42 You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 37:42 There's nothing wrong with luxury. The prob-

Scott Storch 37:43 If you work hard, but...

Joe Rogan 37:44 The problem is you trying to show everybody your luxury-

Scott Storch 37:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:47 ... instead of just enjoying it, like, "Look at my car."

Scott Storch 37:50 Or, or prioritizing it before your children or before things that you like-

Joe Rogan 37:54 Before anything.

Scott Storch 37:55 ...

Narrator 37:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:55 Before anything.

Scott Storch 37:56 You think it's-

Joe Rogan 37:56 Before food.

Scott Storch 37:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:58 It shouldn't come before anything.

Scott Storch 37:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:59 It should be just a fun thing. And when you get to a level of success that you're at, if you don't figure that out, that's when it's the saddest.

Scott Storch 38:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:06 When someone makes a ton of money and doesn't go, "Oh, it's not about the things, it's about the relationships that I have, it's about my friends, it's about my loved ones, my family. It's about the people that I work with. It's about everybody having a good time. It's about let's all get together and break bread and eat and, and hug each other and tell each other that we love each other and do great work and have a good time and just enjoy this life experience." That's the thing.

Scott Storch 38:31 That's the thing.

Joe Rogan 38:31 The car is just like, "Look at that. Cool, dude."

Scott Storch 38:33 It's i- yeah, it's icing on the cake.

Joe Rogan 38:34 Yeah, if you pull up in a cool car, I'm like, "Check it out. What do you got?"

Scott Storch 38:36 But that is all some people have to offer in their, like-

Joe Rogan 38:39 Right.

Scott Storch 38:39 ... life, in like, they think that that is great.

Joe Rogan 38:41 Well, you know then, the problem is, that's seemingly the most unattainable thing.

Scott Storch 38:45 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:45 When you're broke and you see some guy who pulls up in a, a brand new 911, you're like, "What the fuck? This is yours?"

Scott Storch 38:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:52 It's, it's mind-blowing.

Scott Storch 38:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:53 'Cause-

Scott Storch 38:54 I had Bugattis and all kinds of shit. I mean, every...

Narrator 38:56 You had those things?

Scott Storch 38:56 I, I had everything. I won for the best car collection on fucking, uh, MTV Cribs.

Joe Rogan 39:02 (laughs)

Scott Storch 39:02 I had like 26 cars, bro. If you name... I had like $10 million cars.

Joe Rogan 39:07 Wow.

Scott Storch 39:08 Like crazy shit, like, I'm an idiot. But, at any rate...

Joe Rogan 39:12 Yeah, but those fun too.

Scott Storch 39:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:13 If you could afford it.

Scott Storch 39:14 No, yeah, but I lived a billionaire's life as a millionaire.

Joe Rogan 39:18 Oh.

Scott Storch 39:18 I had $100 million. I thought it said $100 billion in my account. I thought there was an extra zero. But recently, I met a guy. You just met Kevin. Kevin is a fucking, like, just a great person. I, I had met him years and years ago. He was the head of security for 50 Cent. And when he, he brought 50 to my house to do the Candy Shop, okay? And that's when I met him, but I lost touch with him for so many years and just, you know, not too long ago, just re-met him at this studio. This guy BB at Circle House said, "Yo, I got you. This guy wants to... You met him before but he wants to meet you." He's now the owner of um, uh, the Platinum Security Group, which is like one of the largest corporate security companies in the nation. Like, this guy owns ha- so much real estate. He owns half of Boca Raton. He's like a major freaking guy. And he like, we started... He wanted to in- initially hire me to do some music for some artists that he had a record label. And we ended up partnering on that record label and partnering on these different type things that were, you know, different projects and shit that we're doing. And, um, he is like, "Yo, first of all, you need to get the fuck out of Miami and I want you to move an hour north to Boca so you can focus and really make the music and stop worrying about..." 'Cause Miami, like, start slipping into my old ways and girls are every day.

Joe Rogan 40:48 Miami is crazy.

Scott Storch 40:48 It show up and it's a cesspool, bro, and it's so much fun.

Joe Rogan 40:51 (laughs)

Scott Storch 40:51 And it's so fucked up and there's so much ass and there's so much drugs and there's so much everything. And it's like, "Fuck that."

Joe Rogan 40:59 You should have to have a passport to go to Miami.

Scott Storch 41:01 (laughs) Right.

Joe Rogan 41:02 That is not America.

Scott Storch 41:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:03 That's some new thing.

Scott Storch 41:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:04 That's some new thing. Miami's wild.

Scott Storch 41:06 Yeah. It's good to go there-

Joe Rogan 41:07 Yeah.

Scott Storch 41:07 ... and you need to fucking be there, but like-

Joe Rogan 41:09 The energy in that place is amazing.

Scott Storch 41:10 ... an hour down the road is beautiful waterfront living and-

Joe Rogan 41:14 Right, chill.

Scott Storch 41:14 ... normalcy and just far enough-

Joe Rogan 41:16 Chill.

Scott Storch 41:16 ... to where the-

Joe Rogan 41:17 You can get there.

Scott Storch 41:17 ... garbage is not gonna like hit you every day.

Joe Rogan 41:20 Right. You can get there if you want.

Scott Storch 41:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:22 But yeah, you're outside of it. That's what I think.

Scott Storch 41:24 Yeah. So he's like, he's like, he's like-

Joe Rogan 41:25 Attack it from the outside.

Scott Storch 41:26 ... "Move up here." And since I did that and followed his lead-

Joe Rogan 41:29 That's wise advice.

Scott Storch 41:29 ... so many great things are happening.

Joe Rogan 41:31 Yeah.

Scott Storch 41:32 Even just unlocking the... You know how you block your blessings?

Joe Rogan 41:35 Mm-hmm.

Scott Storch 41:36 Like, I was blocking my blessings and now they're starting to come. I'm here with you talking and telling my story and like, like things like that are happening, great things. I have um, an artist that, um, you know, I'm working on. I have my album. I decided like, you know how Khaled makes an album? He's got all these different people and-

Joe Rogan 41:54 Mm-hmm.

Scott Storch 41:54 ... and I'm like, "You know what? I'm gonna like..." I've made my whole life of just making hit records for labels and for their artists. Why not develop artists and do my own album and use some of those artists for my projects and, um, yeah. I'm putting out a, a slew of singles. Um, this girl Abbey Starre that Kevin introduced me to is like so amazing. I think there might be a picture somewhere of that, uh, I was told like... 'Cause I'm, I'm using her for my single, for my first single, like even though, you know, we're gonna be developing her album and, um, but I'm doing my single featuring her and then a whole bunch of other ones that I'm gonna be putting out. I have one with Young Blue and, um, tons, I have tons of singles. Um, but yeah, we have this song and, um, yeah. I'm excited, man. Like, I'm doing the things I always wanted to do. I'm, I'm taking like...... full on, uh, initiative now.

Joe Rogan 42:54 And, you think moving an hour outside Miami was a big part of that?

Scott Storch 42:57 I think, yeah. In order to, like, just-

Joe Rogan 42:59 Balance.

Scott Storch 43:00 Yeah, balance myself.

Joe Rogan 43:01 You need balance, man. You need to be able to go hard, but you need to be able to recover, relax and focus. You need privacy.

Scott Storch 43:07 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:08 You need solitude so you could think. Everybody needs that.

Scott Storch 43:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:11 You need balance in your life. If you don't, you just go, you lean in one direction. You want, it's like, it's like your body.

Scott Storch 43:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:17 You only work out your biceps, your fucking, your hips are gonna go. Some- something's gonna go wrong.

Scott Storch 43:21 True.

Joe Rogan 43:21 You're gonna fuck your body up with imbalance.

Scott Storch 43:23 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:23 You're gonna fuck your life up with imbalance. Everything needs some sort of a balance, and everybody's balance is different.

Scott Storch 43:29 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:29 You know, for a guy like you who goes hard, you probably should get the fuck out of Miami. (laughs) You should probably be living in Boca-

Scott Storch 43:36 Right, and I-

Joe Rogan 43:37 ... with all the quiet people.

Scott Storch 43:38 Yep, and I'm loving it. If I need to go to Miami, I'm-

Joe Rogan 43:41 One hour.

Scott Storch 43:42 ... I'll go to Miami, fucking. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:43 It's one hour.

Scott Storch 43:43 Fuck it.

Joe Rogan 43:44 How hard is that? I love Florida.

Scott Storch 43:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:45 It's just a fucking crazy-ass place.

Scott Storch 43:48 It is.

Joe Rogan 43:48 Crazy-ass place filled with reptiles.

Scott Storch 43:50 Sexy place. Yeah, right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:52 (laughs)

Scott Storch 43:52 And they literally are walking around on your dock, and I mean-

Joe Rogan 43:54 There's so many. (laughs)

Scott Storch 43:55 I've seen iguanas, like-

Joe Rogan 43:56 Giant iguanas falling out of trees when it gets cold out. (laughs)

Scott Storch 43:59 Yeah, it's funny as shit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:01 It's just such a fucked-up place, but it's so fun.

Scott Storch 44:04 Yeah, I love it.

Joe Rogan 44:05 There's so many good things. And during the pandemic, I think people started to really appreciate Florida.

Scott Storch 44:09 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 44:10 Like, so many people moved down there. They're like, "Hey, you can just, just live here."

Scott Storch 44:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:13 You don't have to just be under the tyrannical control of the government.

Scott Storch 44:17 Look, the Northeast was a great place to, as a, as a young guy to build strength.

Joe Rogan 44:23 Mm-hmm.

Scott Storch 44:23 And the changing of the seasons-

Joe Rogan 44:24 Yes.

Scott Storch 44:25 ... and scraping the ice off your fucking windshield.

Joe Rogan 44:27 Yes, yes.

Scott Storch 44:27 I was just learning about being a man.

Joe Rogan 44:29 Mm-hmm.

Scott Storch 44:29 Wearing Timberland boots 'cause you're fucking-

Joe Rogan 44:31 Right.

Scott Storch 44:31 ... freezing cold.

Joe Rogan 44:32 Right.

Scott Storch 44:32 And, I think, I think every young person should g- have to, like, experience that.

Joe Rogan 44:37 100%.

Scott Storch 44:38 Not just, like, sunshine every day. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:40 Bro, I grew up in Boston.

Scott Storch 44:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:43 And, um, you know, it's cold as fuck in the winter. When, when I was a kid, we made money by shoveling snow. And that, i- i- you know, that's back-breaking fucking work, shoveling long, steep driveways and shit for 100 bucks.

Scott Storch 44:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:56 You know? But if you, if you could do that, and do that all the time, like, you build resolve. You're out there freezing. Your hands are numb.

Scott Storch 45:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 45:04 You know, we'd play outside in the snow. Your fucking hands would go. Now you come in, you can't feel your feet.

Scott Storch 45:09 Makes you stronger.

Joe Rogan 45:10 It makes you stronger. Scraping the ice off your windshield before you go to work. (imitates ice scraping)

Scott Storch 45:14 Yeah, salting the fucking, uh, the walk.

Joe Rogan 45:17 (laughs) I feel bad for people that don't grow up in those environments, 'cause I really think it gives you a little extra edge.

Scott Storch 45:22 Yeah, and those changing of seasons is amazing.

Joe Rogan 45:24 Yeah.

Scott Storch 45:24 It's different feelings, different moods, and...

Joe Rogan 45:26 All my favorite comedians, for the most... Well, that's not true. I was gonna say that, but then Kenison, he was from Texas.

Scott Storch 45:31 Sam.

Joe Rogan 45:32 Yeah. But that was different. That dude was, that's a different thing.

Scott Storch 45:36 I, I always think about back to school when I think (laughs) about Sam Kenison.

Joe Rogan 45:39 (laughs)

Scott Storch 45:39 I don't know why, but my mind just goes right there.

Joe Rogan 45:41 Was he right? (laughs)

Scott Storch 45:41 Was he right? I was there. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:45 (laughs)

Scott Storch 45:46 Uh, that dude's awesome.

Joe Rogan 45:48 Yeah, he was awesome. But-

Scott Storch 45:48 I have an appreciation for film. I have an appreciation for comedians, like, I, like, I really like... I grew up, like, dude, I was buying like Richard Pryor albums as a kid and Eddie Murphy albums. And, you know, I spent a lot of time, so I became good friends with Mike Epps. I became... A lot of comedians. Comedians are tortured souls, you guys. Like, uh, I think a lot of, like, that whole comedy/tragedy thing is, like, very serious.

Joe Rogan 46:11 Well, there's something to that.

Scott Storch 46:12 For many, for many.

Joe Rogan 46:13 Yeah, there's something to that. But it's, um... You just gotta figure out how to balance it, like we were talking about before. For me, uh, I balance it out with exercise.

Scott Storch 46:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:23 Uh, exercise and saunas and cold plunges and yoga and shit like that. That's how I balance it out.

Scott Storch 46:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:29 That's how I keep my mind straight.

Scott Storch 46:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:30 But if I didn't, I would be spiraling, just like all of them. I think y- you, you need something in your life that's more difficult than your life, something that you do that you choose to do that's more difficult than regular life. 'Cause then it makes regular life way more manageable.

Scott Storch 46:46 Mm-hmm. Well, it's kinda cool. I'm 50, and I'm, like, inspired like what I was in my early 20s and just, like, doing the music. And it's like sometimes I get reminded of, like, the fact, you know, like when you're trying to, like, keep up. Like, there's a session, like, and you're gonna have to go meet Lil Baby at 3:00 in the morning. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:09 (laughs)

Scott Storch 47:09 And it's like, "Fuck."

Joe Rogan 47:09 And you're 50. (laughs)

Scott Storch 47:10 "Okay, fuck it." I just do it. I (Joe laughs) just have to compensate for it.

Joe Rogan 47:14 Yeah.

Scott Storch 47:14 I coulda just went for days back in that day-

Joe Rogan 47:17 Right.

Scott Storch 47:17 ... uh, without drugs. (laughs) You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 47:19 Right, right.

Scott Storch 47:19 And (laughs) like, now it's like, "All right, I'm gonna sleep real late 'cause I'm gonna have to go at 3:00 in the morning."

Joe Rogan 47:24 So, is that, like, a standard thing? Like, what, like, when rappers come in that wanna work with you, do they generally wanna work late at night?

Scott Storch 47:31 Rappers?

Joe Rogan 47:31 Yeah.

Scott Storch 47:32 Yes.

Joe Rogan 47:33 They all wanna work late at night?

Scott Storch 47:34 Yes, and my biggest problem, uh, is I know, I can't always tell them that. Like, sometimes you should just send them CDs and shit. But I know when you get in a room and you make some shit right there on the spot for somebody and you're feeling their energy, that's when the best records happen, like...

Joe Rogan 47:52 Yes.

Scott Storch 47:52 These dudes, like, a lot of these are not, like, with it. But there's, some are. There's-

Joe Rogan 47:57 That's the extra magic, right?

Scott Storch 47:59 Yeah, I think the best artists want that.

Joe Rogan 48:01 Yeah.

Scott Storch 48:01 The ones that aren't really artists, they just want some bullshit to rap on some more bullshit.

Joe Rogan 48:06 But it's, there's something, you're exchanging something as human beings.

Scott Storch 48:09 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:10 Right?

Scott Storch 48:10 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:10 You're, you're w- with that person. You're experiencing them.

Scott Storch 48:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:13 They're experiencing you, the music, the song, everything together, the lyrics.

Scott Storch 48:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:17 There's... That's a human experience.

Scott Storch 48:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:20 That's why, like, I refuse to do Zoom podcasts. Like, some people in other countries-

Scott Storch 48:25 You gotta feel the energy.

Joe Rogan 48:25 They wanna d- be on the screen and just sit in their living room.

Scott Storch 48:28 No, you gotta be in the room.

Joe Rogan 48:28 You gotta be, you gotta fly here, bro. You gotta, you gotta be in the room.

Scott Storch 48:31 Uh, I'll give you a perfect example. I got a call a week ago, Facetime, um, and it was J. Cole. I seen it on my phone. And, like, I was chilling. Like, I was like, "Oh, shit, it's J. Cole." And, um-

Joe Rogan 48:46 My neighbors think I'm selling dope. (laughs)

Scott Storch 48:49 He says, he says, he says, "Yo, Storch, I figured out a way, and I can harness that Storch thing..."... you're in Florida. I'm flying there. So I'm gonna... I'm going home from this tomorrow. He's gonna be there the next day. We're gonna be working at, at a Hit Factory. But he gets it, like-

Joe Rogan 49:06 We were just listening to Neighbours in the green room last night-

Scott Storch 49:09 Oh, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:10 ... and we were all going, "Motherfucker, I am."

Scott Storch 49:12 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:12 (laughs)

Scott Storch 49:13 So I'm excited.

Joe Rogan 49:14 (laughs)

Scott Storch 49:15 I'm excited when somebody wants to get in the room and they have-

Joe Rogan 49:18 Yeah.

Scott Storch 49:18 ... an idea of, like, what they feel, like, out of the Scott Storch bag of tricks. Like, they wanna, like, harness or encompass their life.

Joe Rogan 49:25 Well, you're also a guy that, like, you find out you're working with Scott Storch that day, everybody gets fired up.

Scott Storch 49:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:31 So there's, like, a fee-... 'cause you had so much success that there's this, like, excitement about you. And you're in the room, and that creates, like, additional, like, inspiration.

Scott Storch 49:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:41 You know?

Scott Storch 49:41 I give my all to all clients because if somebody's gonna be in a room when I'm not there and they're like, "This is the one Scott Storch did," that shit had better... If I like the artist or I don't, like, whatever the hell it is, they have to be like, "Yo, that beat is fucking flames." Like, so I give my all to shit. And for some reason, man, like I said, like, I just... This is one of the few things I can just do over and over again. I do it good. I give results. Nothing always sounds the same. I f-... Somehow I manage to pull it off. And it's like... I just remember Dr. Dre telling me, "Yo..." 'Cause his work ethic is crazy. He says, "You don't have to be on every day, just most days." And then-

Joe Rogan 50:24 Hmm.

Scott Storch 50:24 ... and it stuck with me. And I was like, "Yeah, man," like, you know, you gotta be known for-

Joe Rogan 50:28 Consistency.

Scott Storch 50:28 ... being the guy that hit home runs almost every time. Not every time, but almost every time.

Joe Rogan 50:32 But when you're dealing with something that involves creativity, you... It can't be every day.

Scott Storch 50:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:36 It's not possible.

Scott Storch 50:37 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:38 You're asking too much of the muse.

Scott Storch 50:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:40 You know, but that's also the problem with, like, being a workaholic. You're going hard all the time. You're, you're constantly working and you're gonna have your hits is... And you're gonna have your misses, and that's just a part of the process.

Scott Storch 50:52 I go hard with everything that I do. (laughs) Whether it be a bad thing or a good thing.

Joe Rogan 50:56 (laughs) Yeah.

Scott Storch 50:56 Like, I-

Joe Rogan 50:57 Most people do.

Scott Storch 50:58 I got, like, you know, the same energy I give to that, to the music and shit, I was giving to, like, the wrong things for a while.

Joe Rogan 51:06 A good friend of mine, we were talking about a buddy of ours that died. He died from, uh, pills. And, uh, he was super clean. He was a professional pool player, like a really, like, world-class pool player. Super clean, never did anything, never drank, never smoked. Got in a car accident, fucked his back up. Started getting on pills. And pain pills, to him, he chased pain pills the way he chased being the best in the world at pool. The same thing that got him to be a wizard at playing pool, that a... Same obsession-

Scott Storch 51:34 Tore him down.

Joe Rogan 51:34 That sta- same obsession got wrapped up in the pills.

Scott Storch 51:37 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 51:38 And he died. He died young. And we were talking about him, like, that is what it is. That's, that's where obsession and addiction cross paths. One can serve you, one can ruin you.

Scott Storch 51:49 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 51:49 And they're, they're the same energy.

Scott Storch 51:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 51:52 It's just how you channel the fire. You could channel the fire to wood and cook your food or you can channel it to your house, and now you're fucked. Like, where do you put the fire? How do you... How do you direct it?

Scott Storch 52:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:04 And if you direct it the right way, you can have an amazing life and do all kinds of cool shit and have a great time and meet cool people and have a fun life. Or you could do it the wrong way and just c- be on skid row-

Scott Storch 52:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:15 ... covered in scabs.

Scott Storch 52:15 Sk-... It's hard to balance sometimes things that are... Take over your soul-

Joe Rogan 52:19 Yeah.

Scott Storch 52:19 ... like pills and shit like that.

Joe Rogan 52:21 Yes.

Scott Storch 52:21 Uh, later I wanna talk to you about it. I g-... I got into, like, the bu-... The business of rehab, not for money. I got into the business of rehab to help people, but, but that's later. Um, honestly, like, I got... My whole life was just all music, music, music. I loved music. I loved going in my fucking car and just listening to the things I love, like music... I loved music of the '70s and I love Marvin Gaye. I like all his fucking-

Joe Rogan 52:47 I love Marvin Gaye.

Scott Storch 52:48 ... incredible music, Earth, Wind and Fires, and this, that. Like, I just... That's where it all comes from. So, I base my music on the past 50 years of music, 100 years of music. And, um, I was doing good. I smoked pounds of weed, made my music, lived a very healthy life, and became very rich. And I was in a bubble for so long that one day (laughs) I'm living in a house that, uh, um, Ivanka Trump recently just bought.

Joe Rogan 53:19 (laughs)

Scott Storch 53:19 It was my house on Indian Creek Island.

Joe Rogan 53:21 (laughs)

Scott Storch 53:22 Okay? Which I owned outright. I l-... Bought the fucking house for cash from the, um, widow of the founder of Southern Wine & Spirits. And I bought this house. It was fucking massive topiary gardens and incredible thing. I was living a healthy life. And I wasn't, in my mind, like, cool, but I was, like, happy. I was cool. That was as cool as it gets 'cause I was balanced and healthy and doing what I love to do. But I felt like I was yearning for some- something bad or... I don't know what I was yearning for, but this girl ended up showing up at my doorstep, a very famous girl. (clears throat) And, look, I'm just... I'm not playing the ga- like, blame game or anything, but it just... A course of events happened. Paris Hilton shows up at my door initially to work on music, and we ended up connecting and I learned this whole new way of life, like with paparazzis and being, like, next to her. And then, (coughs) excuse me, inevitably hooking up with her and we're now an item and shit and we're, you know, kinda like... We're having tons of fun. We're good friends, but I think we're both using each other in a certain way, like, where I'm, like, uh, like, so excited to be next to this girl who's, like, the coolest, most famous girl in the world. She's, like, my girl. And, like, she's next to a few... Her passion was, at that time, music. And she was, like, next to me, who... I'm the number one music producer in the world at the time. And, um, it went on and then inevitably the nightlife led to fucking-... cocaine and that.

Joe Rogan 55:07 (singing)

Narrator 55:07 (laughs)

Scott Storch 55:08 << She don't lie, she don't lie >>

Joe Rogan 55:11 (singing)

Scott Storch 55:11 First year, year and a half, going here on planes and Saint-Tropez and St. Barts, and the flyest shit you could do, and flyest, the best fucking coke and all- all that shit, just having a blast. And then it just goes bad, and then it's just like, uh, you have relation job. You've seen the movie Blow, and the-

Joe Rogan 55:33 Oh, yeah.

Scott Storch 55:33 ... you've seen how hot, uh, Penélope Cruz and-

Joe Rogan 55:35 Oh, yeah.

Scott Storch 55:36 ... and- and dude were like in the beginning, and they were-

Joe Rogan 55:38 Oh, yeah.

Scott Storch 55:38 ... like into each other. Then it just goes...

Joe Rogan 55:40 Of course.

Scott Storch 55:41 All... Like, there's no happy ending.

Joe Rogan 55:43 Your foundation gets rotted out under you.

Scott Storch 55:45 Yeah, and like, my A-list life was like, you know, was born there, and like I was now like in that situation. And then I ended up with Kim Kardashian, and all these different things, and like she wasn't even famous at that point. But like, you know, she's cool, man. She's always been a great person, and like, plus the-

Joe Rogan 56:06 I gained a lot of respect for her when she started working for criminal and prison reform.

Scott Storch 56:10 Yeah, that's some-

Joe Rogan 56:11 And-

Scott Storch 56:11 It just shows like she's-

Joe Rogan 56:12 Yeah.

Scott Storch 56:12 That's- that's from the heart, too. She's like-

Joe Rogan 56:13 Advocacy for people that are wrongfully accused.

Narrator 56:16 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 56:16 Yeah, man. She's done a lot of good things. She's- that lady's gotten a lot of people out of jail.

Scott Storch 56:20 Yeah. Uh, I- I- I, look, as long as I've known Kim, she's never been anything but just a super sweet person. And like-

Joe Rogan 56:28 That's awesome.

Scott Storch 56:29 I met her before the fame, like I- we dated before the fame. And, you know, I just, I was a hot mess. Like, I was the fucked up one when we were together. Like, I just was not focused. I was just thinking about strippers and drugs and this and that, and was just at- I was still on a high level, but I was living a fucked up life. I had a session. Now, I moved- I moved to Palm Island from Indian Creek, because everything I was doing, I was trying to impress Paris. And like, I knew that everybody wanted to be on Star Island and Palm Island and like close to the party, South Beach was the-

Joe Rogan 57:05 Right.

Scott Storch 57:06 It was South Beach, South Beach.

Joe Rogan 57:07 Right.

Scott Storch 57:08 Didn't know that where I was living already was the big daddy. Like, those houses, you have to be a, you know, everybody's there, like Bezos, everybody's there now. Like, where I was, and I'm- I (laughs) moved to this house on Palm Island. I go from a 90-foot yacht to a much bigger yacht, take these leaps just trying to impress her and-

Narrator 57:25 Yeah.

Scott Storch 57:26 ... just blow her mind, even though she didn't need that. But, um, I was doing it.

Joe Rogan 57:30 Trapped.

Scott Storch 57:30 Yeah, it was all some weird mental, like, thing. Like, I felt like-

Joe Rogan 57:34 A lot of people get caught in that spiral-

Scott Storch 57:35 ... I had to be-

Joe Rogan 57:35 ... when they start making money.

Scott Storch 57:36 ... I didn't wanna be famous, I wanted to be the most famous.

Joe Rogan 57:39 Oh.

Scott Storch 57:39 I wanted to be the biggest boss-

Joe Rogan 57:41 Yeah.

Scott Storch 57:41 ... not just a boss. I had to be that guy.

Joe Rogan 57:43 Boy. (laughs)

Scott Storch 57:44 And when I lost everything, it was like, it's bad news. And look, I had Janet Jackson at my house to do a session.

Joe Rogan 57:53 Pre or post nipple at the Super Bowl?

Scott Storch 57:55 I don't even remember.

Joe Rogan 57:56 (laughs)

Scott Storch 57:56 I don't remember the nipples, but I remember this sweet, cool lady. When I met Janet, I was told to not even, like, really, like, talk to her. Like, more like, like, talk to, like, somebody, and like, you know, it was like, it was like a buffer.

Joe Rogan 58:09 For real?

Scott Storch 58:10 Like, yeah, it was like, "Pass your message and tell this person, and they're gonna, like, relay it." Like, even in the same room, to the point where within a few hours, like-

Joe Rogan 58:16 Wait, you're collaborating with music?

Scott Storch 58:18 ... just for the first few, like, minutes this happened-

Joe Rogan 58:20 Oh, okay.

Scott Storch 58:20 ... and then, like, dude, we became like homies. Like, we was like immediate, like I was like, "Fuck that."

Joe Rogan 58:26 Well, sometimes it's the handlers-

Scott Storch 58:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:28 ... that fuck things up.

Scott Storch 58:28 The handlers.

Joe Rogan 58:29 I've seen people-

Scott Storch 58:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:30 ... that they, they give themselves extra importance-

Scott Storch 58:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:32 ... by, like, saying, "If you wanna talk to her, you have to talk to me first."

Scott Storch 58:36 Yeah, like, yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:37 You know, that kind of shit.

Scott Storch 58:37 Like creating a draw for themselves.

Joe Rogan 58:38 Yeah. And creating, like, a little bit of insecurity on your part, too.

Scott Storch 58:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:42 Like, uh, "Don't address Ms. Jackson cr-"

Scott Storch 58:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 58:44 "... Address me."

Scott Storch 58:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:45 "I'll address Mrs. Jackson."

Scott Storch 58:46 It, that- that is exactly it.

Joe Rogan 58:47 And probably she might not even know about all that.

Scott Storch 58:48 Dude, we were, by the end of the day, I was like, yo, I was smoking my, I was smoking my weed. She was like, I was telling her about the different kinds I had in these, these New York plastic jars and this and that. And like, just cool as hell. But flash forward to now, she's coming to, to Palm Island to work. I left her at my house for, like, seven or eight hours because I wanted to go to the Gold Rush and go get some blow and hang out with strippers.

Joe Rogan 59:15 (laughs)

Scott Storch 59:15 It was just like, "Are you fucking serious? Like, you're really gonna do that?"

Joe Rogan 59:19 Yeah.

Scott Storch 59:19 Like, you don't see it at the time because it's out of your fucking mind.

Joe Rogan 59:23 You're out of your fucking mind.

Scott Storch 59:23 Out of my mind.

Joe Rogan 59:24 Yeah.

Scott Storch 59:24 Out of my tits.

Joe Rogan 59:25 It's just-

Scott Storch 59:25 So much regret for things like that.

Joe Rogan 59:27 ... it's too much, when you have so much money and you have power and fame, it's like you have too much possibility.

Scott Storch 59:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:32 There's too many things that can entice you. And if you're doing blow and going to strip clubs all the time, it's just like, "More titties in my face, please."

Scott Storch 59:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:39 Like, "Let's keep doing it. Let's keep partying. Let's stay up."

Scott Storch 59:42 It's selfish.

Joe Rogan 59:42 Yeah.

Scott Storch 59:42 It's, and it's, and you're not thinking about it, 'cause you're- you're, what did he say in Goodfellas? "Ah, your brain's gone to mush," or some shit.

Joe Rogan 59:48 It's imbalance.

Scott Storch 59:49 It's true.

Joe Rogan 59:50 It's imbalance.

Scott Storch 59:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:50 It's like what we're talking about, but you need a balance.

Scott Storch 59:53 The A-list parties turn to B-list parties, the B-list turns to C-list, the C-list turns to fucking street urchins.

Joe Rogan 1:00:00 (laughs)

Scott Storch 1:00:00 You know what I mean? But I remem- I've had some fucking funny moments, though. Like, I remember having a party, it was like a Super Bowl party, I had like 700 or 800 people at my house, and now, like, everybody's, like, fizzling out. It's now like 9:00 in the morning, 10:00 in the morning. I think Snoop was there, Mike Epps was there, different people were hanging out, lingering, chilling, like family people. Now- now it's, like, friends and shit. And, like, there's a knock on my door at, like, 10:00 AM, and it's Pamela Anderson.

Scott Storch 1:00:32 And that shit was the funniest shit. In my house, living with me, at that time, was one of my favorite people, and, um, I knew he was upstairs, like, sleeping or whatever, my good friend DMX, God rest his soul. And, um, Pamela was showing up, and I was like, "Yo, Epps, yo, Epps, check this out." I was all geeked out and like so, uh, thinking it's so funny that I got Pamela coming to my house at 10:00 in the morning.

Joe Rogan 1:00:59 (laughs)

Scott Storch 1:00:59 And he comes over the, the, um, the railing of my house, and he's like, looks over, he's like-... Baywatch." And then he just walked back away. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:07 (laughs)

Scott Storch 1:01:07 Walked back in the fucking thing, okay? X was like-

Joe Rogan 1:01:12 Yeah.

Scott Storch 1:01:12 X was living with me, man. And like, it was like the blind leading the blind. I'm a coke addict-

Joe Rogan 1:01:17 Yeah.

Scott Storch 1:01:17 ... and he was a crack addict, and I'm like trying to help him. I'm like, "Man, you really need to get clean, man."

Joe Rogan 1:01:23 (laughs)

Scott Storch 1:01:23 Like, like, "What the fuck is real?"

Joe Rogan 1:01:27 (laughs)

Scott Storch 1:01:27 Yeah. So I'm like, "Yo, you need to go to rehab." I'm like... Um, so I, I get him. I convince him, like, to avoid, like, a, a jail sentencing for something, a charge that he had, whatever. He went to rehab and, like, was getting his shit together, the, the place that I had gone that didn't really work (laughs) for me. But I had him there. I really did care about him. I wanted him off that shit. Like, whatever that was, like, a worse evil or a faster suicide than I was even on. And, um, he ran out of the place, and I got a call from him. The place was directly across the street from the Hard Rock in Hollywood, Florida, and he's like, calls me. He's like, "Yo, what's up?" I'm like, "How are you calling me? You don't have phone privileges like that." And this guy-

Joe Rogan 1:02:08 (laughs)

Scott Storch 1:02:08 ... he's like, "I'm across the street from the rehab at the Hard Rock with one of the nurses." He... And like-

Joe Rogan 1:02:14 (laughs)

Scott Storch 1:02:14 I'm like, "Oh, my... Are you fucking kidding me?" I was like, "Yo, X-"

Joe Rogan 1:02:19 (laughs)

Scott Storch 1:02:20 "... cover yourself up. Come back to my house. I'm gonna talk to these people, we'll let you back in." And they wouldn't let him back in. It was a real tough motherfucker that owned this place, and he ended up, 'cause it was court ordered, he had to go away.

Joe Rogan 1:02:32 Ah.

Scott Storch 1:02:32 I'm at the Montreon one morning a couple days later, and my security's like, "Yo, Doug, there's 50 federal agents here." Woo, woo, woo. Like, crazy shit, bro. It was like... I couldn't believe it. I felt horrible.

Joe Rogan 1:02:46 Wow.

Scott Storch 1:02:46 And then you flash forward to not so long ago, I was heavily involved in a rehab center in, um, in California, in Studio City, where we used cannabis for healing. And it came to my attention that he was on his last legs. X was in bad shape. So, um, I was able to make a meeting happen. My, uh, partner, Steve LaBelle. I don't know if you know who Steve LaBelle is, um, managed Bone Thugs-N-Harmony and all these people, like real legend. Um, we were partners on this place. And, uh, we had X come in. He had emphysema. He was one rock away from death, like, you know, that kinda thing.

Joe Rogan 1:03:32 Yeah.

Scott Storch 1:03:32 So we convinced him. We put him on a private plane to Washington to do a detox. He went, he went through the whole detox, and his plan was to leave the detox and come to our facility, inpatient, and do rehab. He never made it back on the plane to head back, and we never saw him again.

Joe Rogan 1:03:55 Uh.

Scott Storch 1:03:55 And like, that was me trying to save a man's life that I really loved, man. He was, like, such a special guy, but like-

Joe Rogan 1:04:02 Such a special performer.

Scott Storch 1:04:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:04 Man, there's, there's some-

Scott Storch 1:04:05 One of the greatest to ever do it.

Joe Rogan 1:04:06 Oh, without a doubt. Without a doubt. The power that that guy had in his voice, it was amazing. But wild people make wild shit. And it's like-

Scott Storch 1:04:16 Intense. I'm one of them. It's like-

Joe Rogan 1:04:17 Sometimes-

Scott Storch 1:04:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:18 ... y- you can't control it. It's like-

Scott Storch 1:04:19 You can't calculate or...

Joe Rogan 1:04:21 Yeah, I mean, going back to Kennison, I mean, that just did him in when... I mean, he died in a car accident, but I mean, his... He was falling apart 'cause it was all cocaine. Cocaine and drinking. And, uh, the wildest of the wilds all get caught up in that life 'cause it's... You, you escape yourself. You escape-

Scott Storch 1:04:37 It's an escape. I was just about to say. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:39 Yes.

Scott Storch 1:04:39 It's an escape and-

Joe Rogan 1:04:40 The difference between enjoying yourself and an escape is, is, you know-

Scott Storch 1:04:43 But, bro, like, the comedown, like, after, like... 'Cause after a while, like, that, like, getting fucked up and going to sleep doesn't work. It's like, it's like now you wanna go for two days, three days. The way you feel at the end of that run-

Joe Rogan 1:04:57 Oof.

Scott Storch 1:04:57 ... (laughs) is no good, bro. It's like-

Joe Rogan 1:04:59 It's not good.

Scott Storch 1:04:59 It's just no good.

Joe Rogan 1:05:00 Well, you're closing in on death.

Scott Storch 1:05:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:02 That's the reality. You do two days-

Scott Storch 1:05:04 Your body's shutting down.

Joe Rogan 1:05:05 People don't like to think that, but if you're up for two days, you're about four days away from death.

Scott Storch 1:05:10 Yeah, it's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:05:10 You keep that up for four days, you're gonna die. You'll stroke out. You'll have a heart attack. Something will go wrong. You'll pop.

Scott Storch 1:05:16 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 1:05:16 Something will go off.

Scott Storch 1:05:17 Poopoo.

Joe Rogan 1:05:17 Yeah, when you're, you're... You'll get emphysema or you'll get pneumonia. You'll get something horrible because your, your immune system's destroyed.

Scott Storch 1:05:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:25 But it's like wild people make wild shit, and do you get a DMX without drugs? I don't.

Scott Storch 1:05:30 Yeah, it's like you call it sex, drugs, and rock and roll-

Joe Rogan 1:05:32 Yeah.

Scott Storch 1:05:32 ... rock star shit, whatever you wanna call it.

Joe Rogan 1:05:34 Yeah. I don't know if you get those people... I don't know if you get Hendrix without acid. I don't know if you get it.

Scott Storch 1:05:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:40 I don't know if you get it. I don't know if you get it without heroin. I don't know.

Scott Storch 1:05:43 Maybe I'm so lucky because now I finally realize and, like, understand, like, all the things you're saying about, you know, you can just die and, like, I get it now, and I'm like, "I'm not doing that." And like, I lived it though, and I got to experience, but the music is still fertile. And like, I'm still doing my thing 'cause a lot of those memories and things.

Joe Rogan 1:06:02 Oh bro, you made it through.

Scott Storch 1:06:03 Yeah, I made it through.

Joe Rogan 1:06:04 You made it through. You, you made it through. You're alive. You're healthy. You're lucky.

Scott Storch 1:06:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:08 You're blessed.

Scott Storch 1:06:08 Fucking lucky as hell.

Joe Rogan 1:06:09 Lucky as shit. And it's just like, that's the dance, man. The dance is how much wild do you let in your life? And if you don't let any in-

Scott Storch 1:06:19 You might be a little sterile, like what, what-

Joe Rogan 1:06:20 ... you might be boring as fuck.

Scott Storch 1:06:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:22 Your, your art might suck.

Scott Storch 1:06:23 I made it out alive. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:06:25 All of my favorite artists are a little off the rails-

Scott Storch 1:06:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:06:28 ... and always have been. From my favorite writers to my favorite musicians. I mean, so many of my favorite musicians died young.

Scott Storch 1:06:35 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:06:36 The Kool- Hendrix probably one of my all-time favorites, but like, that's a great example. You know? Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, all these people died young, man. Kurt Cobain died young 'cause they went too fucking hard, too wild, too wild out of the gate. Amy Winehouse, too wild.

Scott Storch 1:06:52 You know, you start dealing with stuff that, like... It's not like you could just be an organized drug addict. Like-

Joe Rogan 1:06:57 Right.

Scott Storch 1:06:57 ... you know, some people just have less of an addictive personality, but like, if you... The, the shit just takes over.

Joe Rogan 1:07:03 Yeah. It takes over. And again, if you live in that... (microphone thumps) There you go.

Scott Storch 1:07:06 Oh, sorry.

Joe Rogan 1:07:06 If you live in that wild life, it's like...... there, there's no one telling you to stop. There's no one-

Scott Storch 1:07:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:11 ... telling you to slow down. You have all the money in the world. Like, what? What... Who the fuck are you? Why are you telling me to slow down?

Scott Storch 1:07:19 Yeah, we just want a little bit of that.

Joe Rogan 1:07:19 Fuck outta here. I just did The Star-Spangled Banner with my teeth. Get the fuck off-

Scott Storch 1:07:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:07:23 ... the stage. (laughs)

Scott Storch 1:07:24 Right?

Joe Rogan 1:07:25 You ever see him do that?

Scott Storch 1:07:26 No.

Joe Rogan 1:07:26 Ever see Hendrix do The Star-Spangled Banner-

Scott Storch 1:07:28 Oh, yeah. I've never heard it.

Joe Rogan 1:07:28 ... with his teeth?

Scott Storch 1:07:29 Yeah, crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:07:30 Bro, that motherfucker.

Scott Storch 1:07:31 Yeah. I'm, I'm told I'm one of the only guys who can play, like, music and smoke weed at the same time. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:07:39 I don't know how they play music and sing at the same time.

Narrator 1:07:42 (soft music)

Scott Storch 1:07:42 I, um, I, I'm, I, I'm... I met this guy, Post Malone, who's part of his business team, like him and Dre London, this guy Austin Rosen. Austin Rosen's a fucking awesome dude. Like, he owns, uh, Electric Feel Entertainment. Post, all these guys, Lou Bell, they're all part of, like, some of the most talented, and, like, just one of the coolest things going on in music are these guys. So, I wanted to make a life story, like, biopic how it's gonna do something... Ah, one idea I was gonna do, and then he was like, Austin says, "Dude, I want you to go meet this guy. His name's Charles Roven. He owns Atlas Entertainment." I don't know if you're familiar with Atlas? But they made, like... It's a... Pff... One of the biggest movie producers in the history of movies. He did, like, Suicide Squad, that whole series. The Dark Knight, um, Oppenheimer. Like, some of the craziest movies. The list just goes on. I'm like, "Oh, shit, this guy makes blockbusters. Is he gonna make my movie?" He was like, he's like, "Listen, just go meet him. See what happens." I meet the guy, and I go in his office. I'm, like, so nervous. He, he says to me, "I don't like you very much."

Joe Rogan 1:09:04 (laughs)

Scott Storch 1:09:04 (laughs) "Especially from what I read. But if I like you by the end of this meeting, I think we'll make a movie."

Joe Rogan 1:09:10 What does that mean, "I don't like you very much, especially from what I read"?

Scott Storch 1:09:13 (laughs) Because, like, you know-

Joe Rogan 1:09:14 What did he read?

Scott Storch 1:09:15 ... there's some fucked up shit. Like, you know, like...

Joe Rogan 1:09:17 Oh, tabloid-type shit?

Scott Storch 1:09:18 Yeah, but a lot of it's bullshit. Like-

Joe Rogan 1:09:19 Of course it is.

Scott Storch 1:09:20 ... they made me look a certain way. But meanwhile, me and him ended up really seeing eye to eye, and I was able to articulate why a lot of these things happened. There was one interview (coughs) I missed, because I wasn't even told about it. And apparently, it was rescheduled three times. (alarm goes off) And then, I was told about it, and I unfortunately had to reschedule it. Guy wrote the most horrible story about me. It was the cover of a magazine, and it was me covered with blood all over my face, and just making me just look like fucking Hitler. And, um, you know, it couldn't be any further from the truth. Like, I... Yeah, I made big mistakes. But I did it... I was the nicest person, giving per-... I would give the shirt off my back. Any person that ever stopped me in the streets to, like, get a picture, like, I'm f- gonna ask 'em how their day was. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm that guy.

Joe Rogan 1:10:12 Yeah.

Scott Storch 1:10:13 I'm very, very thorough and very consistent with all of it.

Joe Rogan 1:10:16 Well, that doesn't sell.

Scott Storch 1:10:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:17 What sells is you're the worst piece of shit of all time.

Scott Storch 1:10:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:20 Oh my God, let me read about this-

Scott Storch 1:10:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:21 ... piece of shit.

Scott Storch 1:10:22 So-

Joe Rogan 1:10:22 And that's, that's a horrible thing-

Scott Storch 1:10:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:24 ... that journalists do for money.

Scott Storch 1:10:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:26 They make these pieces where they completely distort a person's essence, and they only do it for money.

Scott Storch 1:10:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:32 They, they're just, like, emotional hit people.

Scott Storch 1:10:34 Let's not talk about everything I've... Left my footprint in the fucking world. But any rate.

Joe Rogan 1:10:39 Yeah, right, let's just talk about negative things-

Scott Storch 1:10:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:10:42 ... and only from a very distorted perspective.

Scott Storch 1:10:44 Selfish.

Joe Rogan 1:10:45 Life is nuanced and bou-... And it's weird. Life is fucking crazy.

Scott Storch 1:10:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:49 And sometimes people make mistakes. But it's not their whole being.

Scott Storch 1:10:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:52 And to try to, like, condense a person down to, like, tabloid headlines, like, that's the essence of the person, that's crazy. That's, like, the least compassionate, the, the, the least kind way of looking at human beings.

Scott Storch 1:11:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:11:07 Th- it's, that's not how human beings are. We're complicated. That's why those little hit pieces, they're gross and they don't really work.

Scott Storch 1:11:14 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:11:15 'Cause people know that. They know that a per-... There's probably a lot more to this. Like, why is this per-... Why is this so negative? Like, this is not a balanced-

Scott Storch 1:11:22 Yeah, it's just one-sided.

Joe Rogan 1:11:23 ... version of who that person is.

Scott Storch 1:11:24 Yeah, I'm a complex character if I was in a movie. But-

Joe Rogan 1:11:26 Of course you are.

Scott Storch 1:11:27 But at, at... Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:11:28 You're an artist.

Scott Storch 1:11:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:11:29 Every artist is complex. I've never met one that isn't.

Scott Storch 1:11:32 Well, a very, very raw and