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Joe Rogan Experience #2242 - Bert Sorin

This episode is brought to you by The Farmer's Dog. Get 50% off your first box by heading to http://thefarmersdog.com/rogan today! Bert Sorin is the president and co-founder of Sorin Exercise Equipment, as well as an athlete, hunter, and advocate for the health and wellness of veterans. http://www.sorinex.com

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Dec 11, 20243h 38mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Strength, Hunting, and Human Limits: Joe Rogan Talks With Bert Sorin

  1. Joe Rogan and strength coach/equipment designer Bert Sorin range across training, hunting, combat sports, and broader questions about human performance and resilience. They open by discussing Sorin’s new rotational power machine, then dive into the evolution of strength training in sports, from old myths about weights to modern data-driven approaches.
  2. The conversation moves into archery and hunting, covering heavy bows, gear, ethics of killing what you eat, and memorable experiences in Scotland, Alaska, and Africa. They also examine combat sports from catch wrestling to modern MMA and jiu-jitsu, emphasizing drilling, technique, and how strength amplifies skill.
  3. Later, they talk about injury, recovery, and longevity—covering surgeries, stem cells, peptides, blood clots, and learning when to step back from trying to be “the GOAT.” Interwoven throughout are reflections on social media, free speech, mob mentality, and how COVID-era politics exposed deep problems in institutions and public courage.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Rotational power and core stability are critical for striking and throwing sports.

Sorin’s X-Factor machine is built to train push–pull rotational power with balance and core engagement, translating ground force through the body into punches, throws, and other explosive movements more effectively than traditional cable setups.

Great technique plus great strength is exponentially more effective than either alone.

Whether in jiu-jitsu, boxing, or throwing, technically refined athletes who are also very strong (e.g., Gordon Ryan, Francis Ngannou) are vastly harder to beat than strong brawlers or technical but weak technicians; the sports that succeed long-term acknowledge and train both.

High-level skill comes from relentless drilling, not just “going hard.”

Rogan stresses that in jiu-jitsu the real gains come from high-rep, resisted drilling—building “tie-your-shoes” automaticity—rather than just sparring for fun; the same logic applies to quarterbacks who become great archers or wrestlers who become elite MMA fighters.

Heavier, well-tuned archery setups dramatically increase lethality and margin for error.

Rogan argues that if you can safely and accurately pull 80–90 lb bows with appropriately stiff arrows and cut-on-contact broadheads, you get deeper penetration, more pass-throughs, and quicker kills—especially on big animals—despite critics who often can’t handle that draw weight themselves.

Old-school strength cultures reveal both the power and cost of obsession.

Stories from Westside Barbell, strongman, and catch wrestling show how extreme training environments can produce freakish performance but also massive injuries, surgeries, and shortened careers, underscoring the need to know when to stop chasing “GOAT” status.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

There’s zero advantage in being weak. There’s never a time where you’re like, ‘If I could just get my squat down a bit, that would really pan out for me.’

Joe Rogan

If you could teach a wrestler how to strike, they have such an advantage. They’re not worried about you taking them down; you’re worried about them taking you down.

Joe Rogan

Do something that scares the shit out of you, do something that excites you, do something that’s difficult. That’s how you grow.

Joe Rogan

Most of these people are broken, and they have some addictive thing. If they could channel it into something, that might be the next world champion.

Bert Sorin (on Louie Simmons’ approach to lifters at Westside Barbell)

You could be the rabbit-hole guy and lose sight of life and still only be the number three guy ever.

Bert Sorin

Design and purpose of Sorin’s X-Factor rotational power machineEvolution of strength training in combat and throwing sportsArchery, bowhunting, and modern gear (rangefinders, heavy bows, optics)Old-school strength culture: Westside Barbell, strongman, stone lifting, catch wrestlingMMA, jiu-jitsu, wrestling, and the role of strength vs. techniqueInjury, recovery, medical tech (surgeries, stem cells, peptides, blood clots)Social media, censorship, mob mentality, and COVID-era institutional behavior

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