Joe Rogan Experience #2242 - Bert Sorin

1. 0:00 – 1:53

   Sorinex “X-Factor” machine: rotational power training for fighters

   1. BSBert Sorin0:00

      (drum beat plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) Hello, Joe.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      (laughs) Good to see you, Joe. What's up, brother? What's going on, man?

   4. BSBert Sorin0:16

      Good to see you, man.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Thank you very much for that, uh, extraordinary piece of, uh-

   6. BSBert Sorin0:20

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      ... athletic equipment you brought to the gym.

   8. BSBert Sorin0:22

      Absolutely, right?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Is there a photo of that so we can show people what it looks like?

   10. BSBert Sorin0:24

       Uh, yeah, it should be on the website, uh, X-Factor.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       And what is it called?

   12. BSBert Sorin0:29

       Uh, it's called the X-Factor.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Oh, it's called the X-Factor.

   14. BSBert Sorin0:30

       Yeah, it's called the X-Factor.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       What is the website?

   16. BSBert Sorin0:31

       Sorenix.com.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Go to Sorenix.com, check out the X-Factor.

   18. BSBert Sorin0:35

       It's all you, it's actually ... Pull it up, Jamie.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Pull it up, Jamie. Isn't it nice to say that?

   20. BSBert Sorin0:38

       Gosh, man, I'm telling you-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       It's fun, right?

   22. BSBert Sorin0:40

       It's, uh, it's big.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       So this is the machine.

   24. BSBert Sorin0:42

       Yeah. It's actually Judd who was here a minute ago.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Yeah. It's a- a brilliant machine, man. The idea that you could push and pull rotationar- r- rotational power machine.

   26. BSBert Sorin0:52

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       It really is a- a genius idea, man. And, uh-

   28. BSBert Sorin0:55

       Thanks, bro.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       ... for things like striking sports, that's huge. Like, the ab- ability to push and pull at the same time while stabilizing your core. I mean, that is undoubtably gonna help w- people, like, i- i- it's ... You're definitely gonna be able to deliver more power and strikes.

   30. BSBert Sorin1:13

       Right. Because you- you take the ground force-
2. 1:53 – 2:52

   “Remastered” strength equipment: reviving old ideas with modern design

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:53

      It's pretty dope. And you were telling me that this was originally, uh, like you- you came up with this idea from an older machine that's not around no more?

   2. BSBert Sorin2:00

      Yeah. Yeah. So we've- we ... You know, I've been in this industry a long time and as well as you have, but it's kinda taken a remastered series where we're taking all, like, the cool stuff that was- could have been our designs, but could have been just old designs that are just, like, kinda lost to the ages.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:15

      Uh-huh.

   4. BSBert Sorin2:15

      And we were like, "Hey, that was a cool piece, but it sucked because you had to load it weird or it was like ... Maybe it wasn't as safe as it could have been." And so it's like, let's- let's break the whole thing apart, figure out what was good about it, and then ... That was like the eighth iteration. We just kept playing with it, and then it was like, when you realize the double axis is what made the user experience cool-

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:36

      Mm-hmm.

   6. BSBert Sorin2:36

      ... then it was like, "Okay, this is badass," and you know. I sent that video to you, and- and then, uh, a couple colleges have already bought them, and then, uh, Ryan Crouser, the world champion w- uh, and record holder in the shot put was like, "Yeah, like, this is all rotational power."

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:50

      Mm.

   8. BSBert Sorin2:51

      "How do we turn that on?" So ...

3. 2:52 – 4:37

   Old-school training culture: bro science, martial arts myths, and learning from winners

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:52

      Yeah. It's- it's so cool today because there's so much social media and there's so much- so many videos and YouTube videos-

   2. BSBert Sorin3:00

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:00

      ... of people using equipment. Like, 15, 20 years ago, you had to go to a gym-

   4. BSBert Sorin3:04

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:04

      ... and go, "Oh, what is that? Oh, that's cool."

   6. BSBert Sorin3:06

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:06

      "Where'd you get that? How's that work?"

   8. BSBert Sorin3:08

      The big guy in the gym-

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:09

      Where's the company?

   10. BSBert Sorin3:09

       You had to, like, go, "Hey."

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:10

       Yeah.

   12. BSBert Sorin3:10

       "What's the deal?" Yeah. I mean ...

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:11

       Yeah. Yeah.

   14. BSBert Sorin3:11

       You and I grew up in the same era where we're going to gyms all the time, and-

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:15

       Mm-hmm.

   16. BSBert Sorin3:15

       ... there's a bunch of quacks telling you to do stuff (laughs) and-

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:18

       Always. Yeah.

   18. BSBert Sorin3:19

       And then you-

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:19

       And then there's bro scientists.

   20. BSBert Sorin3:20

       Total bro scientists.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:22

       (laughs)

   22. BSBert Sorin3:22

       Yeah. And then- and then you're just like, "Hey, if that guy's really good at something," you know?

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:26

       Yeah.

   24. BSBert Sorin3:26

       Back in the day, I would ... After I'd compete, probably much like you, after I'd compete, I would get whoever was better than me, and I would offer to take him out to dinner. And I would just go, "Hey." Like, I'd feed him beers until they basically told me w- how they beat me. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:40

       (laughs)

   26. BSBert Sorin3:41

       (laughs) Like, I'd just like, "Well, how much are you cleaning," or, "What are you doing?" Then I would pick up some little idiosyncrasy of training, and they're like-

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:48

       Mm-hmm.

   28. BSBert Sorin3:48

       "Oh, we would do this contrast." And I'm like, "What's that?" And I would just keep digging and digging and digging. I'd go back and figure it out.

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:54

       Well, I remember when I was competing, they would tell you to not lift weights, which is so hilarious.

   30. BSBert Sorin4:00

       (laughs) Right. You don't get muscle bound, Joe.
4. 4:37 – 11:43

   Steroids, legality, and the “you can abuse anything” argument

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:37

      I think it was Evander Holyfield.

   2. BSBert Sorin4:39

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:40

      I think it was Macky Shillstone-

   4. BSBert Sorin4:42

      Hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:42

      ... trained Evander Holyfield when he went up to heavyweight.

   6. BSBert Sorin4:45

      Okay.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:45

      And I- I remember myself at the time, so this was in the '90s, I remember thinking-

   8. BSBert Sorin4:50

      Sure.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:50

      ... "What is he doing? He's lifting weights. He's gonna fuck himself up."

   10. BSBert Sorin4:55

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:55

       "Don't- doesn't he know that all these coaches have already figured it out?"

   12. BSBert Sorin4:58

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:58

       And then all of a sudden, Evander got all these traps and shoulders-

   14. BSBert Sorin5:01

       Dude, he was trapped and deltaed out.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       He got jacked.

   16. BSBert Sorin5:04

       What?

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:04

       He got jacked.

   18. BSBert Sorin5:04

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:05

       And he became a legitimate heavyweight. Also, pretty sure there was some Mexican supplements involved.

   20. BSBert Sorin5:11

       Yeah, he might have gone across the border to-

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:13

       Ah.

   22. BSBert Sorin5:13

       I mean, I didn't ... I'm not ... (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:15

       I think it's a strong possibility.

   24. BSBert Sorin5:16

       It was the '90s. The '90s were a good time. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:18

       I think it's a strong possibility that there was some help because also, like, you never heard of anybody testing positive for steroids back then.

   26. BSBert Sorin5:25

       No.

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:25

       And I know for a fact that some of those guys were on steroids.

   28. BSBert Sorin5:30

       I would not-

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:31

       Yeah.

   30. BSBert Sorin5:31

       ... disagree.
5. 11:43 – 15:20

   ’80s nostalgia to archery obsession: compound vs traditional bows

   1. BSBert Sorin11:43

      Where were the '80s not so awesome?

   2. JRJoe Rogan11:46

      The '80s were pretty cool.

   3. BSBert Sorin11:47

      The '80s were pretty cool.

   4. JRJoe Rogan11:47

      Except everybody's worried that Russia was gonna blow us up.

   5. BSBert Sorin11:49

      (laughs) That's true story.

   6. JRJoe Rogan11:50

      Yeah.

   7. BSBert Sorin11:50

      True story. Yeah. I remember '85, I believe it was '85, going to, uh... I know obviously we're both into archery, so '85, Rambo First Blood Part Two came out.

   8. JRJoe Rogan12:01

      (laughs)

   9. BSBert Sorin12:01

      Pops took me to the movie theater. He and I saw it, and we went straight from there to the archery shop, and I got my first bow that day.

   10. JRJoe Rogan12:07

       Really?

   11. BSBert Sorin12:08

       Yeah, I still have it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan12:08

       Wow.

   13. BSBert Sorin12:09

       Yeah, it was awesome. I still have some of the same arrows.

   14. JRJoe Rogan12:12

       No shit?

   15. BSBert Sorin12:12

       Yeah, I g- I s- I d- I strangely don't lose things. But yeah, I remember in the backyard shooting 'cause, like, he kinda half taught me, and then I was in the backyard zinging arrows and thinking, like, "If I had explosive tips, like, how badass would this be?"

   16. JRJoe Rogan12:23

       I went to, uh, Lanai, and, uh, you know, they have, uh, the Pineapple Brothers has that archery-

   17. BSBert Sorin12:29

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan12:29

       And I brought my whole family. And then, um, they also have this area where you can go and you can, like, shoot skeet, and you drive, like, uh, four- four-wheelers up in the mountains.

   19. BSBert Sorin12:40

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan12:40

       And then they had, like, traditional archery, like bows and arrows. And I was like, "Oh, let me try this."I don't know how to fucking aim. I'm terrible at it. I was like-

   21. BSBert Sorin12:49

       Uh-huh.

   22. JRJoe Rogan12:50

       ... "I'm a good archer. I should be good at this."

   23. BSBert Sorin12:51

       Or thought. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan12:52

       I could barely hit the fucking target from 20 yards away, like, "Eh."

   25. BSBert Sorin12:56

       It's like the science and the art, two different things.

   26. JRJoe Rogan12:58

       They're totally, totally different.

   27. BSBert Sorin13:00

       Yeah. I've always said, like, the guys that are traditional hunters, you know, trad guys, they're either weirdos or they're absolute killers.

   28. JRJoe Rogan13:07

       Right. It's like Aaron Snyder-type dudes-

   29. BSBert Sorin13:09

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan13:09

       ... who are so good at compound archery they get-
6. 15:20 – 22:06

   Jiu-jitsu mastery: drilling, flow state, and why strength still matters

   1. BSBert Sorin15:20

      It is. It, does... Can you see the arrow... Does it slow down when you shoot at animals like it does for me? It looks like there's no way this arrow is ever gonna get to... It's like everything in my m- brain do- it's like, uh, that book, The Rise of Superman, when you go in a flow state. And like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:34

      Mm.

   3. BSBert Sorin15:34

      ... everything speeds up in your brain, so actually the perce- uh, per- uh, well, it'd be the perception-

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:41

      Perception?

   5. BSBert Sorin15:41

      ... all sh- all lengthens out. They say your brain actually starts firing three times faster, the little pictures.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:47

      Ah.

   7. BSBert Sorin15:47

      So that's why the, it slows down. This morning, I watched that arrow just right-handed turn. I'm like, "That g- that deer's gonna move." And it was only 27 yards. But I'm watching it. T- t- t- t- t- t- t- t- t- t-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:58

      Oh, that's interesting.

   9. BSBert Sorin15:59

      But when I, but when I'm shooting targets, I'm just like, "Nah, whatever."

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       I don't seem to think that. No.

   11. BSBert Sorin16:04

       Really?

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       No.

   13. BSBert Sorin16:05

       I always think it takes forever to get to the ar- to animal.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       No. Um, I'm trying to think of when do things slow down for me? No.

   15. BSBert Sorin16:15

       Jujitsu?

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       No. Jujitsu just, whe- when you're really in a, a good state, y- it's just almo- almost like you're not thinking.

   17. BSBert Sorin16:23

       Hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       It's like all of a sudden you have an arm bar. It's like...

   19. BSBert Sorin16:26

       So it is a flow state.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       Yeah.

   21. BSBert Sorin16:27

       Just maybe if you're-

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       It's a complete flow state. But it's a flow state that's established after, you know, thousands of hours-

   23. BSBert Sorin16:35

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:36

       ... of drilling. And that's the most important thing in jujitsu, really, is drilling.

   25. BSBert Sorin16:40

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       Everybody loves to roll 'cause it's so fun.

   27. BSBert Sorin16:43

       Sure.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       You know, 'cause it's like you're playing a video game, you're, like, trying to kill each other.

   29. BSBert Sorin16:46

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:46

       But the really important thing is drilling. And drilling with, like, a certain amount of rigor, like a certain-
7. 22:06 – 28:57

   Bert’s ‘throws world’ origin: hammer throw, Highland Games, and Scottish stone lore

   1. BSBert Sorin22:06

      Sure. Now is there... Like in the throws world, we always talk about like technique... Speed is everything.

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:11

      Explain to people what you're talking about when you say throws world.

   3. BSBert Sorin22:13

      Okay, so throws. Uh, I, like yes. So I'm, I'm one of those nerdy guys that pick the sport that's like the least paying sport of all time. (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:19

      (laughs)

   5. BSBert Sorin22:19

      So I was a hammer thrower. So it's like a shot put. Steel ball, 16-pound steel ball, on a one-meter, you know, three-foot-long wire. It's what you see on the Olympics. They spin around really, really fast-

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:30

      Yeah.

   7. BSBert Sorin22:30

      ... and yell and scream, and always make like the highlight reels of guys that scream.

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:33

      Where did that come from? Was that a weapon at one point in time?

   9. BSBert Sorin22:35

      Yeah, yeah. So they actually... In Scotland, they, they would use... It was a hammer they would literally have, like, for agrarian society, and they have a, a cylindrical head on it so they could use it every side. And so that w- that became a, a way to train for battle because they weren't allowed... The Scottish weren't allowed to have weapons.

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:54

       Oh.

   11. BSBert Sorin22:54

       Yeah, so they would start throwing stones and-

   12. JRJoe Rogan22:56

       After the Braveheart days?

   13. BSBert Sorin22:57

       Yes. Or during those days.

   14. JRJoe Rogan22:59

       Damn.

   15. BSBert Sorin22:59

       So they weren't supposed to have weapons, so they're like, "F this. We're just gonna take all the stuff we, we have and stay strong, stay ready." Um, and then actually their, their stone was called the Clachnart, which meant, uh, stone of strength.

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:10

       That's a great name.

   17. BSBert Sorin23:11

       It's a wonderful name.

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:12

       That's a Viking name if I ever heard one.

   19. BSBert Sorin23:14

       Viking.

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:14

       Clachnart.

   21. BSBert Sorin23:14

       So tell me how badass this is. So like each family, like the Rogan family. Like you're the patriarch, right?

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:19

       Okay.

   23. BSBert Sorin23:19

       You'd have your Clachnart up on the-

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:21

       (laughs)

   25. BSBert Sorin23:21

       ... mantle (laughs) or whatever it is. So at your family outings, whatever outings those may be, all the men, very much like in Braveheart, they would go and throw it. The fur- the guy who throws the Clachnart, the family stone, the furthest is kind of like the dude. Like he's like-

   26. JRJoe Rogan23:36

       (laughs)

   27. BSBert Sorin23:36

       ... "All right, all right. You... Now my son has surpassed me. He's shown he's a man now."

   28. JRJoe Rogan23:40

       Right?

   29. BSBert Sorin23:40

       Here's the wildest part. This, this gives me chills. So they would... If they went off to battle, they would take their Clachnart, their stone, and on the way out of town, they would all put it in a pile and they'd call it a... I think it was called a cairn or a carn. So they would put it in a pile. So if they did not return to battle, they had placed their own monument to their town of their sacrifice.

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:00

       Whoa.
8. 28:57 – 32:12

   Cardio vs power: Cam Hanes, runner’s high, and training specificity

   1. JRJoe Rogan28:57

      Have you done, uh, Lift Run Shoot yet with Cam?

   2. BSBert Sorin29:00

      I haven't done it with Cam. Uh, no, I've... We played around and done some stuff like that at my farm, uh, you know, during different events.

   3. JRJoe Rogan29:06

      You should do his, his podcast, the Lift Run Shoot Show.

   4. BSBert Sorin29:09

      That'd be great. Heck yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan29:10

      Where he makes you carry a rock up the fucking mountain.

   6. BSBert Sorin29:12

      I went up Pisgah with him. I haven't carried the rock, and, uh, but I'm sure you've done Pisgah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan29:16

      It's like the Cam Rock.

   8. BSBert Sorin29:18

      That's insane.

   9. JRJoe Rogan29:18

      I haven't done Pisgah.

   10. BSBert Sorin29:19

       No?

   11. JRJoe Rogan29:19

       I'm not doing that. Fuck outta here.

   12. BSBert Sorin29:21

       That was rough.

   13. JRJoe Rogan29:22

       Yeah.

   14. BSBert Sorin29:22

       That was rough. I started running, I'm not a big cardio guy.

   15. JRJoe Rogan29:24

       Not interested in going a- anywhere where that guy's running.

   16. BSBert Sorin29:27

       Dude, he is...

   17. NANarrator29:28

       (laughs)

   18. BSBert Sorin29:29

       He is as advertised as a badass. Like, he is-

   19. JRJoe Rogan29:32

       Oh, he's a complete psychopath.

   20. BSBert Sorin29:33

       ... legi- legit.

   21. JRJoe Rogan29:34

       He's one of my best friends. He's a complete psychopath.

   22. BSBert Sorin29:36

       Uh, we did, we were, I, we all got running, and then he kinda left me. And then, like, he got to the top and then did his dance, and then he came back down, and like, "Hey, man." And it was ka- it was very remarkable. Like, it, he goes, "All right, why do I do this all the time?" He goes, "If we crested this corner right now, and you saw the biggest bull of your life at 70 yards, could you make the shot?" And I'm like, "Bro, I'm looking out my ear hole right now. Like, I'm screwed."

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:00

       (laughs)

   24. BSBert Sorin30:00

       He goes, "That's why I do this every day." I'm like-

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:02

       Yeah.

   26. BSBert Sorin30:03

       ... "I'm tra- I'm tracking."

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:04

       He's also addicted to exercise. He's addicted to cardio.

   28. BSBert Sorin30:07

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:08

       I think there's, uh-

   30. BSBert Sorin30:08

       Me, me not so much.
9. 32:12 – 43:13

   Injuries, rehab tech, and peptides: knees, backs, and healing debates

   1. JRJoe Rogan32:12

      I just can't run. My, I have a bad left knee that's been really bothering me the last few years.

   2. BSBert Sorin32:17

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan32:17

      And I just twisted it again this, uh, September while I went hunting.

   4. BSBert Sorin32:20

      Yeah, you were saying your sciatica was a little tweaked up.

   5. JRJoe Rogan32:22

      That was another problem. That was from-

   6. BSBert Sorin32:24

      Getting old, Joe.

   7. JRJoe Rogan32:24

      ... overuse of ... No, it's just being stupid.

   8. BSBert Sorin32:27

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan32:28

      That's overuse of, uh, archery. So-

   10. BSBert Sorin32:31

       What?

   11. JRJoe Rogan32:31

       I was... Yeah. Because, you know, I have two bows. I have a bow that's 84 pounds and a bow that's 90 pounds. So, I'm pulling these 90-pound bows 100 times a day.

   12. BSBert Sorin32:42

       Are you shooting that many times a day?

   13. JRJoe Rogan32:43

       Every day. Oh, yeah.

   14. BSBert Sorin32:44

       Good for you.

   15. JRJoe Rogan32:45

       Oh, yeah. Oh, d- you have to.

   16. BSBert Sorin32:47

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan32:47

       It ... For that moment when-

   18. BSBert Sorin32:49

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan32:50

       ... like, a fucking giant bull walks in between the trees-

   20. BSBert Sorin32:53

       It's tight, isn't it?

   21. JRJoe Rogan32:53

       ... and you have a 70-yard shot, you have to-

   22. BSBert Sorin32:56

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan32:56

       ... 100% be confident-

   24. BSBert Sorin32:58

       Yep.

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:58

       ... that you can make that shot. And so I'm shooting it 84 yards over, and over, and over, and over, and o- ... I'm obsessive, but the problem was, I'd developed, like, tendonitis in my lower back.

   26. BSBert Sorin33:10

       Mm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan33:10

       And so it's overuse from the stabilizing.

   28. BSBert Sorin33:12

       Mm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan33:13

       From, like, holding yourself.

   30. BSBert Sorin33:14

       Really?
10. 43:13 – 1:08:19

    Archery tech rabbit hole: rangefinders, apps, arrow ballistics, and bow draw weight

    1. JRJoe Rogan43:13

       Imagine those poor fools that had to hunt with traditional bows-

    2. BSBert Sorin43:16

       Dude.

    3. JRJoe Rogan43:16

       ... no binos, no spotting scopes.

    4. BSBert Sorin43:18

       Dude. If anything got killed-

    5. JRJoe Rogan43:20

       No, no wind checker.

    6. BSBert Sorin43:21

       No app. (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan43:21

       No range finder-

    8. BSBert Sorin43:22

       They didn't have the app.

    9. JRJoe Rogan43:23

       ... no apps. I have apps. I have everything.

    10. BSBert Sorin43:25

        Oh, yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan43:25

        I have a range finder that syncs up with my app.

    12. BSBert Sorin43:29

        Of course you do.

    13. JRJoe Rogan43:30

        Well, I don't even, I haven't even set it up yet, but it's, uh-

    14. BSBert Sorin43:32

        Do you nerd out on all that stuff like I do?

    15. JRJoe Rogan43:33

        I do. See, the, here's the problem. Uh. I have a Leupold rangefinder. I really like-

    16. BSBert Sorin43:38

        Mm-hmm.

    17. JRJoe Rogan43:38

        ... Leupold's Full Draw.

    18. BSBert Sorin43:39

        Yep. Used it this morning.

    19. JRJoe Rogan43:40

        The reason why I like it is because it'll show you the arc of your arrow.

    20. BSBert Sorin43:44

        Yes. That little line?

    21. JRJoe Rogan43:45

        This is how nerdy it is, folks. So, my arrows go 294 feet per second.

    22. BSBert Sorin43:51

        Okay.

    23. JRJoe Rogan43:52

        And-

    24. BSBert Sorin43:52

        How heavy?

    25. JRJoe Rogan43:53

        They're, these are 475.

    26. BSBert Sorin43:55

        Okay.

    27. JRJoe Rogan43:55

        475 grains. And you calculate all this stuff. You put all this stuff into the rangefinder.

    28. BSBert Sorin44:03

        Mm-hmm.

    29. JRJoe Rogan44:03

        And the rangefinder knows exactly how heavy your arrow is, exactly what the peak of it's gonna be-

    30. BSBert Sorin44:09

        Yeah.

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