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Joe Rogan Experience #2244 - Ryan Graves

Go to https://expressvpn.com/RoganYT and find out how you can get 3 months of ExpressVPN free! Ryan Graves is a former Lt. U.S. Navy and F/A-18F pilot who was the first active duty pilot to publicly disclose regular sightings of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Today, Graves serves as the first Chair of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics UAP Integration & Outreach Committee, Executive Director of Americans for Safe Aerospace, and is the founder of StarSense Innovations. http://www.safeaerospace.org

Joe RoganhostRyan Gravesguest
Dec 16, 20242h 48mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Ryan Graves Dissects Mysterious Drones, UAP Secrets, And Future Threats

  1. Joe Rogan and former Navy F/A-18 pilot Ryan Graves discuss the recent wave of mysterious drone/UAP incursions over the U.S., especially along the East Coast and near military bases, and why official explanations remain vague or absent.
  2. Graves relays what he’s hearing from weapons-of-mass-destruction experts—that the current drone activity is *not* about a missing nuclear weapon—while outlining how unusual flight behavior, signature management, and scale still make the situation a serious security concern.
  3. The conversation revisits Graves’ own Navy encounters with UAPs, the Gimbal and Go Fast videos, and systemic obstacles inside government that prevent transparent investigation or disclosure, including legal, bureaucratic, and political constraints.
  4. They broaden the discussion to potential foreign adversary tech, advanced propulsion, quantum computing, AI, and even underwater civilizations, arguing that genuine transparency and a serious national-level scientific effort are needed to understand what these objects are.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Current East Coast drones are unlikely to be hunting a missing nuclear weapon.

Graves spoke directly with U.S. WMD specialists who would be tasked with locating a loose nuke; they are not operating in crisis mode, and standard nuclear-search doctrine relies on ground teams, not hundreds of high-altitude drones looking for gamma radiation.

The drone/UAP incursions are real, large-scale, and technologically puzzling.

Incidents have recurred for at least three years around bases like Langley and now appear across multiple states, featuring hundreds of objects that fly in groups, stay aloft for many hours, make sharp maneuvers at low altitude, and often evade infrared and radar tracking.

Existing U.S. law and bureaucracy significantly hamstring rapid drone/UAP response.

Because operators may be U.S. persons, agencies often need warrant-level authority or lengthy approvals—up to the Deputy Attorney General or Secretary of Defense—to intercept signals or shoot drones, creating friction and paralysis despite clear security risks.

Graves’ Navy squadron experienced persistent UAPs that outperformed known aircraft.

Upgraded radars began detecting stationary, subsonic, and supersonic objects invisible to the eye but visible on multiple sensors; pilots nearly collided with a “black cube in a clear sphere,” and later recorded the Gimbal and Go Fast videos of formations and maneuvering craft with anomalous signatures.

The U.S. risks falling behind adversaries if it keeps UAP-related R&D too secret.

Graves argues that if China is freely investing in extended electrodynamics, cold fusion, and related exotic physics while the U.S. buries similar work in black programs, America’s self-imposed secrecy could let competitors leapfrog U.S. capabilities.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

“People are absolutely seeing things that seem to be exhibiting capabilities beyond state of the art. Boom, end of conversation right there.”

Ryan Graves

“If this is not a foreign adversary, then we have to make the assumption that it's a U.S. citizen that's operating these. Because of that, they essentially need a warrant in order to wiretap these.”

Ryan Graves

“There’s no government on Earth that has the right to hold that information… that we're not alone in the universe potentially.”

Ryan Graves

“If you are in contact with aliens… that’s not yours. That’s not yours to tell. That’s the human race’s.”

Joe Rogan

“We have AI. We have quantum. We have mysterious objects showing up on the coast. It does seem like a lot of things are converging right now.”

Ryan Graves

Recent drone/UAP incursions over the Eastern seaboard and U.S. basesDismissal of the “missing nuke” and gamma-radiation-search narrativeGovernment detection limits, legal barriers, and response constraintsGraves’ Navy UAP encounters (Gimbal, Go Fast, “cube in a sphere”)Foreign adversary drone capabilities and changing nature of warfareSpeculation on advanced propulsion, gravity manipulation, and cold fusionDisclosure vs. discovery: how the U.S. should approach UAP transparency

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