Joe Rogan Experience #2249 - Yannis Pappas & Chris Distefano

This episode is brought to you by The Farmer's Dog. Get 50% off your first box by heading to http://thefarmersdog.com/rogan today! This episode is brought to you by Gopuff the Instant Delivery platform. Alcohol, groceries, snacks & more delivered in as fast as 15 minutes. https://gopuff.onelink.me/6XXe/dfd6s4p4 Yannis Pappas is a standup-comic and host of the "Yannis Pappas Hour" podcast. Chris DiStefano is a stand-up comic and the host of "Chrissy Chaos" and "Christories." Together, they are the hosts of the "History Hyenas" podcast. www.yannispappascomedy.com www.chrisdcomedy.com

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0:00 – 2:28
Chris learns to smoke a cigar (and immediately struggles)
1. CDChris DiStefano
  (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
2. NANarrator
  The Joe Rogan Experience.
3. CDChris DiStefano
  Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) I wanna see you vomit.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Are we up? This is Chris Tef- Distefano's very first time ever.
5. CDChris DiStefano
  Okay.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Lighting and smoking a cigar.
7. CDChris DiStefano
  This i-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  How old are you?
9. CDChris DiStefano
  40.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  How've you managed to get this far with no cigars?
11. CDChris DiStefano
  I don't know how to do any, like, really guy shit like that. Like, I don't know how to play pool, cigars. I don't really know how to do that, but I do know every state capital.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay.
13. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
14. CDChris DiStefano
  Is this the right way?
15. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  You got it.
17. CDChris DiStefano
  He's gonna vomit. I wanna see him vomit on this show.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't think he's gonna vomit. Don't inhale it all. You gotta get the fire-
19. CDChris DiStefano
  First you gotta lear- yeah, like you gotta-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  ... lower, lower your h- hand.
21. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Are you doing this on purpose?
23. CDChris DiStefano
  I swear on my kids I've never done this.
24. YPYannis Pappas
  Okay.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  No, no, I mean the way you're being retarded.
26. CDChris DiStefano
  Hmm.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, get the fire on the f- (laughs)
28. YPYannis Pappas
  There we go. Right on there, yeah.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Get it on there, get it on there.
30. YPYannis Pappas
  Get it in there.
2:28 – 3:56
Deodorant, cologne, and why humans smell awful without help
1. CDChris DiStefano
  But I don't know what to do. I also, I'm just thinking about how my clothes are gonna smell like cigar smoke.
2. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah, no, it really does.
3. CDChris DiStefano
  And that's-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  That's gonna mess with your head.
5. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
6. CDChris DiStefano
  And it messes with my head, 'cause I'm like, "I don't wanna get cigar smoke on my clothes."
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Do you use cologne?
8. CDChris DiStefano
  Yes.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm.
10. CDChris DiStefano
  Shout out Yves Saint Laurent.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Wow.
12. YPYannis Pappas
  And body odor.
13. CDChris DiStefano
  Do you not use cologne?
14. JRJoe Rogan
  No.
15. CDChris DiStefano
  Never?
16. JRJoe Rogan
  No, never.
17. CDChris DiStefano
  What-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Maybe when I was like 18.
19. CDChris DiStefano
  You just go with your natural musk?
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, I wear deodorant.
21. CDChris DiStefano
  Right.
22. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  I wear Dr. Squatch.
24. CDChris DiStefano
  Shout out Dr. Squatch.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Shout out to Dr. Squatch, natural. It's not, it doesn't have aluminum in it.
26. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  But I wonder if it works as good.
28. CDChris DiStefano
  Well, there's more effe-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  I think there's something to the aluminum.
30. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
3:56 – 5:24
Sex, grooming trends, and the idea that “history smelled”
1. YPYannis Pappas
  That's what made eating pussy so hard before, like, the 2000s.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Before porn.
3. CDChris DiStefano
  Right.
4. YPYannis Pappas
  Before porn. But porn used to be muff out.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
6. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  But somewhere along the line, it wasn't.
8. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  And then society followed.
10. YPYannis Pappas
  Yes.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
12. YPYannis Pappas
  And it changed eating pussy. I mean, it's, uh, so much more enjoyable without any fumes.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
14. YPYannis Pappas
  'Cause the fumes get caught in the hair.
15. CDChris DiStefano
  Fumare.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  A lot of stuff goes on down there.
17. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
18. CDChris DiStefano
  All, while, Napo-
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Plus it's six inches from the asshole.
20. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Not even.
22. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  You know?
24. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
25. CDChris DiStefano
  Napoleon's letters to Josephine, he wanted her to have a full bush, and he wanted her not to bathe for a week when he was coming home from war.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
27. CDChris DiStefano
  He said, "I need it, I need it fucking mungy."
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
29. CDChris DiStefano
  So some guys like that.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Mungy?
5:24 – 7:33
Civilizations rising/falling and trauma (and racism) passed through generations
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, before the, the, the Mongols sacked Iraq, like they were, like that was the pinnacle of civilization. They turned the river, was it the River Tigris?
2. CDChris DiStefano
  Mm-hmm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  They turned it red with blood. Like, that's how many people they killed. They, they killed the entire town of Baghdad. Like, they killed everybody there. And those people were at the pinnacle of science.
4. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  And then look, you go all the way to the 1990s and you got fucking Saddam Hussein and his psychopathic kids running shit and killing people, and...
6. CDChris DiStefano
  Right.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  That was what was left over.
8. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
9. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
10. YPYannis Pappas
  Same gene line.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  It's really nuts when you think about-
12. YPYannis Pappas
  You think that gets into the genes, like the killer kinda psychopathic-
13. JRJoe Rogan
  100%.
14. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
16. YPYannis Pappas
  Right.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  I think good things and bad things get in your genes. I think that's been substantiated by science. They said...... you know, that even racism can, can be passed on from parent to child.
18. YPYannis Pappas
  That makes sense.
19. CDChris DiStefano
  I believe it-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
21. CDChris DiStefano
  Traumatic memories.
22. YPYannis Pappas
  Mm-hmm.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
24. CDChris DiStefano
  I believe it.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
26. CDChris DiStefano
  My... Yeah. My... I, I feel like I... Only now, as I'm getting older, am I like, "Oh, I have some of my mom's memories in my head," I feel like.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Think about it. Like, think about... W- let's look... Let's think of simpler animals, like animals, like dogs, like Carl. Why... How the fuck does a dog know to pee on a tree? How does a dog know to go-
28. YPYannis Pappas
  Instinct, yeah.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  ... to where pee is and pee on it?
30. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
7:33 – 12:51
Boxing training, head size, and who can take a punch
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Whoa, you look thinner, dude.
2. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  You look... Really do. You look healthy.
4. YPYannis Pappas
  Thank you.
5. CDChris DiStefano
  He does. He looks good.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  You been boxing?
7. YPYannis Pappas
  I've been boxing. Yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay. Lemme see some moves. Can you show me-
9. YPYannis Pappas
  You wanna see for real?
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Can you show me something?
11. YPYannis Pappas
  No. No, I-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  You want-
13. CDChris DiStefano
  I'll show you form. I got video of it.
14. YPYannis Pappas
  (laughs)
15. CDChris DiStefano
  I'll show you form, dude.
16. YPYannis Pappas
  I'm sure.
17. CDChris DiStefano
  He's got a nice... He's got a nice-
18. YPYannis Pappas
  You made a video today.
19. CDChris DiStefano
  I got a video today. He's got a nice right hand. He's a... he's not... He... You say you're slow, but you're not slow. But you got a nice, nice right hand.
20. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah. I have a... He tells me I got, I got a little power in both hands.
21. CDChris DiStefano
  Right.
22. YPYannis Pappas
  So, I don't know.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  You're a little too confident for my liking.
24. YPYannis Pappas
  I know. I know, and that's how it goes.
25. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
26. YPYannis Pappas
  And then you just get fucking stretched out.
27. CDChris DiStefano
  Stretched out.
28. YPYannis Pappas
  (laughs)
29. CDChris DiStefano
  You'll get laid out, cuz.
30. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah, you get stretched out.
12:51 – 17:58
Anger tears, comedian brains, and managing anxiety spirals
1. CDChris DiStefano
  But the thing, the thing is for me, Joe, and I'm just being completely honest with you, when I get really angry, like you'll punch a wall or you'll do man shit, I cry. I really-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay.
3. CDChris DiStefano
  There's been many times where I've gotten so mad that I just start to tear up and cry. I've cried in front of Yiannis before.
4. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  When you get angry?
6. CDChris DiStefano
  So, when I get angry, I just start to cry. So there's some wires crossed somewhere in me, but we've kind of accepted, that's why I think our friendship has blossomed to the way it is, because we both understand that we just have a little bit more estrogen than most guys, and that's okay.
7. YPYannis Pappas
  We got nicked for sure. I mean-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm.
9. CDChris DiStefano
  We got nicked by the gay gene.
10. YPYannis Pappas
  Some people get fully clipped. I think we got nicked.
11. CDChris DiStefano
  Joe didn't get it at all.
12. YPYannis Pappas
  No, no.
13. CDChris DiStefano
  Joe got not even close to being nicked. And which is rare-
14. YPYannis Pappas
  Fully.
15. CDChris DiStefano
  ... for a comic, 'cause if... It's very usually hard to be funny and not a little bit of a feminine guy. You're a very manly guy that can be funny.
16. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
17. CDChris DiStefano
  That's a rarity, babe.
18. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, most guys that... If you, like, hang around boxing gyms, or if you hang around a lot of cops, or if you hang around soldiers-
20. CDChris DiStefano
  Mm-hmm.
21. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... they're funny, man.
23. YPYannis Pappas
  Oh, yeah.
24. CDChris DiStefano
  Mm-hmm.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  They're funny dudes because it's gallows humor, 'cause they're dealing... Like, one of my funniest friends was a special forces guy.
26. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  He's fucking hilarious.
28. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
29. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  And he's always cracking, like, jokes you could never repeat, you know, saying things you can never repeat. And it's just so funny.
17:58 – 18:29
Friendships, comics’ jealousy, and parenting changing empathy
1. JRJoe Rogan
  I have to get a new number, and I've been saying this for a while. I have a couple numbers, but I gotta, I have to re- renew...... I gotta just completely check out of these topics.
2. YPYannis Pappas
  And I never call you first, 'cause I'm like, "I don't know if I'm..." If we got that type of friendship where you just-
3. JRJoe Rogan
  You can totally call me.
4. YPYannis Pappas
  I can call you?
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Best friends.
6. YPYannis Pappas
  All right.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  I hug you when I see you, right?
8. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Then you can call me.
10. YPYannis Pappas
  Oh, I'm calling you.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
12. CDChris DiStefano
  There's been a couple of times I've sent you, "I come over for Christmas."
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
14. YPYannis Pappas
  Now, oh wow-
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Come over for Christmas.
16. YPYannis Pappas
  ... you're gonna be seeing a lot of Giannis Pappas popping up.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Let's go.
18. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
19. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
20. CDChris DiStefano
  There's been a couple of times I've sent Joe voice notes-
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
22. CDChris DiStefano
  ... and then you listen back and I'm like, "I'm not sending that."
23. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
24. CDChris DiStefano
  And then I, and then I just don't reach out.
25. YPYannis Pappas
  What'd you say? "What's up, honey bubbles?"
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Voice notes, you know-
27. YPYannis Pappas
  "What's up, baby gorgeous?"
28. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
18:29 – 31:22
Alex Jones, conspiracy “noise,” and the ‘prison planet’ pitch
1. JRJoe Rogan
  You know who sends me the most voice notes? Alex Jones, 'cause they disappear.
2. CDChris DiStefano
  Oh, right.
3. YPYannis Pappas
  Oh.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  This is what they're planning, and then it fucking disappears. (laughs) But you could keep them.
5. YPYannis Pappas
  That's perfect.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Y- yeah, you can keep them.
7. YPYannis Pappas
  On your end.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  But doesn't he know if you keep them?
9. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah, yeah.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't want him knowing that.
11. YPYannis Pappas
  That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. You don't... (laughs)
12. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't want him know... You know what I'll do? I'll record it with another phone.
13. CDChris DiStefano
  That's smart.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  I'll like, you know, film it.
15. CDChris DiStefano
  Smart, dude.
16. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  This is what the problem is.
18. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
19. YPYannis Pappas
  That's perfect. I mean, that's almost like-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  I've known him for about 25 fucking years.
21. YPYannis Pappas
  I mean, if you called me and did that, I'd be like, "Alex Jones-"
22. JRJoe Rogan
  As soon as Trump gets in, they're gonna... The, the, the aliens will land.
23. CDChris DiStefano
  (laughs)
24. YPYannis Pappas
  That's perfect.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  They're turning the frogs gay.
26. YPYannis Pappas
  (laughs)
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Yeah, it's like, yeah.
28. CDChris DiStefano
  Dude, I saw a video of Alex Jones, and I'm late to the game of seeing this, but how he predicted 9/11 in June-
29. YPYannis Pappas
  He did.
30. CDChris DiStefano
  ... of twen- 2001.
31:22 – 39:03
Andrew Dice Clay as a misunderstood artist and comedy mentor
1. YPYannis Pappas
  Why do you want to keep Dice's cigarettes in there?
2. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause they're Dice's.
3. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
4. YPYannis Pappas
  Oh!
5. CDChris DiStefano
  That's why.
6. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Hey.
8. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  He l- he doesn't smoke them, he just takes them out and he holds onto them and he puts them in the ashtray-
10. CDChris DiStefano
  He's the best.
11. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  ... then he pulls another one out and he holds onto it.
13. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
14. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  He went smoking again for a while. He started smoking again, but then he stopped again.
16. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
17. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  You know. (Russian accent) "Gotta becareful" my health."
19. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
20. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh!
22. YPYannis Pappas
  Yes.
23. CDChris DiStefano
  Oh! You wanna talk about a great father and son, but that, that's Dice. Dice-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
25. CDChris DiStefano
  Dice is all about his kids.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  He's very dedicated. Very dedicated. You know-
27. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  ... his kids play the ban- they play, like, at his shows.
29. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, his son, his son's playing, his son is fucking amazing on the drums.
39:03 – 49:03
Dark anthropology: Germany’s extremes, cannibal cases, and Papua New Guinea taboos
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Germans are weird.
2. YPYannis Pappas
  That's awesome.
3. How about that German guy that ate that other guy's penis? He en- he, they, he answered an ad.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, the guy asked him to eat his dick.
5. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah, he asked him to eat his penis.
6. CDChris DiStefano
  It is keto.
7. YPYannis Pappas
  And they ate it together, right?
8. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
10. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Fun.
12. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
13. YPYannis Pappas
  Germans are-
14. CDChris DiStefano
  You know, he, he ate his own dick. He ate his own penis with his-
15. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
16. CDChris DiStefano
  ... with a buddy.
17. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
18. CDChris DiStefano
  It happens.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  (inhales deeply) Well, it wasn't even a buddy. It was a guy he met on Craigslist or something.
20. CDChris DiStefano
  Right. Wires get crossed and-
21. YPYannis Pappas
  Germans just ... Yeah, Germans just, you know. Germans.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  How many Germans?
23. YPYannis Pappas
  What do you think that is?
24. I think it's just, um, some s-
25. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
26. YPYannis Pappas
  It's something in zere that's like very ... Hello. It's like-
27. JRJoe Rogan
  But think about how good they are at engineering.
28. YPYannis Pappas
  Right.
29. Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Right? Like, think about ... Just think about modern automobiles and how w- how many of them originated in Germany.
49:03 – 54:10
San Francisco ‘fatphobia czar,’ wokeness backlash, and civilization decline
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you see the San Francisco lady they just hired?
2. YPYannis Pappas
  No.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  They laid a czar to stop fatphobia. Have you seen this lady?
4. YPYannis Pappas
  No. (laughs)
5. JRJoe Rogan
  It's wonderful. Hold please.
6. YPYannis Pappas
  Okay.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Let me, let me say this, 'cause this is, uh, a city that's completely crumbling, that has no resources-
8. YPYannis Pappas
  Listen-
9. JRJoe Rogan
  ... but has enough money to hire this person.
10. YPYannis Pappas
  My daughter's-
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Here we go.
12. YPYannis Pappas
  My daughter's in the 95th percentile right now, so I'm, I, I agree with her. I don't want anyone to make fun of fat people.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, it's not making fun of fat people. It's, it's literally, like, encouraging people to be fat.
14. YPYannis Pappas
  Oh, she, they are?
15. JRJoe Rogan
  It's encouraging to be fat.
16. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  It's saying there's nothing wrong with being fat, which is crazy. You know, it's one thing if you don't wanna be mean to people because they're fat, yes, and-
18. YPYannis Pappas
  Right.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you know, if you can encourage them to be healthy, yes. And the e- I mean, I'm not the expert on GLP-1 agonists, but this lady is out of her fucking mind.
20. YPYannis Pappas
  Huh.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  You know? I, I think there's probably a lot of side effects to a lot of these drugs that people are taking to get skinny, but at least it's moving you in a right direction because being fat is killing you.
22. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
23. Right.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Jay, I just texted it to you.
25. YPYannis Pappas
  I'm actually giving, uh, for Christmas a few of my friends Wegovy.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, for real?
27. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah. No, I mean, I'm joking, but-
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
29. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
30. (laughs)
54:10 – 1:03:34
AI governance, quantum computing, drones, and crypto scams (Hawk Tuah included)
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Do you think it's the collapse of a civilization, like the way Rome got a little, uh, you know, zany at the end, or do you think this is unique in that-
2. YPYannis Pappas
  Humans have so much time on their hands because of the industrial revolution and then the technological revolution on top of that. So, this is just a consequence of the tech revolution where nobody c- you know, people working from home, everyone's working on the computer, it's a talking-shit economy, and nobody's got ... And they're losing their mind because they don't have purpose.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, there's that too. Right? But all civilizations collapse. So, let's take a look at why. So most civilizations, they, they're a monarchy and it's usually they're run after they die by their children. And that's how it all falls apart. Even if you look at, like, Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan, his family couldn't hold up. They, they couldn't run things the way he did. They didn't know, they didn't understand strategy. They didn't understand the-
4. YPYannis Pappas
  He, he was a wild dude.
5. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  He was a wild dude.
7. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  So, his kids did a good job. They did, they hung in there for a couple hundred years. After a while, it all fell apart. But our society's different in that we have essentially ... We have a republic. Right? So, we have a democratically elected a pub- republic. And they've done a lot to try to circumvent that. They've done a lot to try to have ultimate control over the media, ultimate control over the military, ultimate ... And it's mostly people that aren't even elected. Right? So, there's a lot of, like, weirdness that's moved us closer and closer towards a monarchy, closer and closer towards tyranny. And then once it gets into tyranny, then you can only do that for so long. That lasts, you know, for as long as they can keep it going. You know, Rome did it for a long time. There's a lot of civilizations that hang in there, but eventually it all falls apart.
9. YPYannis Pappas
  Right.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  If we can avoid that, there's no reason why we can't keep it together. We just have to make sure we avoid these very predictable patterns that the pe- the people that founded this country. When they wrote the Bill of Rights, when, when they wrote the Constitution, they were trying to mitigate the effects that are just common in any group of society that's run by individuals or by a small group of people.
11. YPYannis Pappas
  Right.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  They want ultimate control. It makes it easier for them to stop anybody from taking the power once they have the power. Look at Jill Biden. Like, she still wanted ... She's still like, "You did so great. You answered all the questions." She wanted him to keep going.
13. YPYannis Pappas
  Right.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  She wanted him to be- 'cause she didn't want to not be vice president or whatever, first lady. She didn't want to not do that.
15. YPYannis Pappas
  Sure.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  It's power.
17. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  That's what it is. It's that ultimate control and power, and it's hypnotic for human beings. It-
19. CDChris DiStefano
  Do you, do you think then that we're gonna be in a part of society in the next, I don't know, 30 years where we're gonna start getting ruled by AI? Is that possible?
20. JRJoe Rogan
  100%. Give me that lighter. Yeah.
21. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  That's 100%. Yeah.
23. CDChris DiStefano
  Yeah.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  There's no getting around that, man.
25. CDChris DiStefano
  So, you think the president's gonna be AI at some point?
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Do, do you know about the, the Google quantum computer? The, these studies that they've done?
27. CDChris DiStefano
  I've heard, I've heard about it, but I don't know what it is.
28. YPYannis Pappas
  Where they're talking to each other and stuff?
29. JRJoe Rogan
  They're more than that.
30. YPYannis Pappas
  Yeah.