Joe Rogan Experience #2250 - Raekwon

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast.…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   3. RARaekwon0:12

      Joe Rogan, this way.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      What up?

   5. NANarrator0:13

      You need to stay.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      That's it. The Chef is in the building, ladies and gentlemen.

   7. RARaekwon0:16

      What's up? What's up?

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Pleasure to meet you, man. You are a part of the most iconic band in all of hip hop. There is no question.

   9. RARaekwon0:23

      Mm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       There's one Wu-Tang. There's only one Wu-Tang. Nothing else is even close. You guys were so different than every other band that ever existed.

   11. RARaekwon0:32

       Crazy.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       It was a giant group of you.

   13. RARaekwon0:34

       Yeah, man.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       And everybody was a killer.

   15. RARaekwon0:36

       Fucking mob, man.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       It's a crazy band, man. It- like-

   17. RARaekwon0:39

       Fucking mob.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       ... no one has ... It's... If you think about it, there's been a lot of hip hop duos.

   19. RARaekwon0:43

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       There's been a lot of producers and MCs. There's been a lot of people to get together in, like, small groups. But there's only one-

   21. RARaekwon0:51

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       ... Wu-Tang. There's only one group of nine assassins.

   23. RARaekwon0:55

       I tell niggas that all the time. Like, you ain't gonna-

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       It's kinda crazy.

   25. RARaekwon0:58

       You ain't gonna get another one of these.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       It's, it's crazy that it-

   27. RARaekwon1:02

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       ... worked.

   29. RARaekwon1:02

       Yeah. Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       'Cause it's so hard to keep all those alphas together.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Speedballs. …

   1. RARaekwon15:00

      dope and coke together and getting high and shooting it-

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      Speedballs.

   3. RARaekwon15:03

      Yeah, everything.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      Yeah.

   5. RARaekwon15:05

      You know what I mean? It was, it was a serious time back then, man. But, you know, uh, that's how far, to me, music went back, you know, listening to Ladies Night. You know what I mean? I had, I had people at my store that had a candy store right on the same floor, but it wasn't a candy store. They just had a bunch of penny candy just to make kids feel cool, but really, they were selling coke in the back.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:27

      Uh-huh.

   7. RARaekwon15:27

      Coke and dope, though. So, you know, all this was going on in the community, man.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:31

      Wow.

   9. RARaekwon15:31

      It was a, it was a serious time. It was scary times back then. Mm-hmm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       Y- But if it's not for those scary times, you don't get the kind of band that Wu-Tang was. Like, that, that has to emerge from an authentic experience.

   11. RARaekwon15:44

       Absolutely.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       It has to.

   13. RARaekwon15:45

       Absolutely.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       And that's part of the appeal of it, is that everybody kinda knew that.

   15. RARaekwon15:49

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       You know, it was part of the appeal. It was like, it w-

   17. RARaekwon15:52

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       There's never been like a genre of music like that, that's so connected to, like, the grind and poverty-

   19. RARaekwon16:00

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       ... and crime and ghettos.

   21. RARaekwon16:02

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       Like, the whole genre of mu- To be authentic-

   23. RARaekwon16:05

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       ... you had to come from that. You couldn't-

   25. RARaekwon16:07

       You had to experience that.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       ... be like some-

   27. RARaekwon16:08

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       ... rich kid from the suburbs-

   29. RARaekwon16:10

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       ... that was talking about some shit you'd never actually-
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   But- …

   1. RARaekwon30:00

      And you run into the connect, and the connect say, 'Yo, you talking like you know how to move shit. I'ma give you 50 pounds of marijuana back then.' You know what I mean? Now, you may feel like at the end of the day you can handle it, but a motherfucker tell you, 'Joe, I'm giving you these fucking 50 pounds.'"

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      But-

   3. RARaekwon30:18

      "I need my money back today at this time." You can either take the 50 because you so fucking confident, or take one and say, "Yo, I'd rather take my time. You know what I mean? I don't want to be in debt with you."... what are you gonna do?

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:31

      You gotta take the 50.

   5. RARaekwon30:33

      You go- oh, you, oh yeah, he's- he-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:34

      You gotta take the 50.

   7. RARaekwon30:35

      (laughs) He wants to fucking get his head fucking chopped off.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:38

      You gotta take the 50.

   9. RARaekwon30:38

      I don't know, yeah. I mean-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       You gotta, you gotta know people-

   11. RARaekwon30:41

       Uh- yeah, yeah. See-

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       ... and you gotta bring everybody in, and you gotta share the money.

   13. RARaekwon30:44

       See? See? You gotta know people.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       You gotta share the money. You gotta say, "Listen, there's a lot more money."

   15. RARaekwon30:46

       You gotta know people. Now, if you ain't confident in knowing what the fuck you need to know, I advise you don't take 'em.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       You shouldn't be having that conversation-

   17. RARaekwon30:53

       Shouldn't be having that conversation.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       ... if you don't know anybody. But if you know some people and you're generous.

   19. RARaekwon30:57

       Oh, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       That's the thing.

   21. RARaekwon30:58

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       You gotta make it worth these people's while. You gotta bring-

   23. RARaekwon31:01

       That's the key thing.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       You gotta say, "Listen, we're all gonna get something out of this."

   25. RARaekwon31:03

       And see, now look, that philosophy that you said-

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:07

       Yeah.

   27. RARaekwon31:07

       ... is what we took on.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:08

       Yes.

   29. RARaekwon31:09

       We took that on.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       Yes.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      this cassette, and I was like, "NWA, I keep hearing about this."

   2. RARaekwon45:03

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      And I... Fuck Tha Police was the first song I listened to.

   4. RARaekwon45:05

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      And I remember I was on the stair climber going, "This is wild."

   6. RARaekwon45:08

      See? You see what I'm saying?

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      Like-

   8. RARaekwon45:10

      You see what I'm saying?

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:10

      ... "This is wild." But-

   10. RARaekwon45:11

       Yeah, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:11

       ... you're, you're hearing people talk about the police, like they're getting harassed by the police in a way you never heard before.

   12. RARaekwon45:17

       Mm-hmm. Heard 'em saying, yeah, exactly.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:18

       Fuck Tha Police coming straight from the underground.

   14. RARaekwon45:20

       (inhales)

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:21

       It was like... I was like, "Wow."

   16. RARaekwon45:22

       Coming straight from the fucking underground.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:23

       It was a totally different kind of music.

   18. RARaekwon45:25

       Music.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:25

       It was, it was like they were rapping and no one was listening.

   20. RARaekwon45:30

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:30

       It was like they were rapping for themselves, right?

   22. RARaekwon45:32

       Yeah, yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:33

       Like, they didn't give a fuck who was listening. They were rapping like they were doing it for their friends, but they were doing it to the whole world, and the whole world was like, "Whoa."

   24. RARaekwon45:41

       Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Well...

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:41

       100 Miles and Running.

   26. RARaekwon45:43

       Oh, that shit was.

   27. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       The whole world was like, "Whoa."

   28. RARaekwon45:45

       Yeah, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan45:45

       "This is crazy."

   30. RARaekwon45:46

       So look, you had them, you had Public Enemy.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:49

   Right. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

   2. RARaekwon1:00:00

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      You know, that's like saying you're a black belt when you're not really a black belt.

   4. RARaekwon1:00:03

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

      You know, like, like ...

   6. RARaekwon1:00:04

      You gotta go through the courses.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      Yeah. Like, how good are you? I mean, I'm good for regular people.

   8. RARaekwon1:00:09

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      Yeah, if you didn't know, you would think I'm really good.

   10. RARaekwon1:00:11

       He said, "For regular people."

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:11

       (laughs) Yeah, but, like, for people that are really good?

   12. RARaekwon1:00:13

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

       No. I'm not.

   14. RARaekwon1:00:14

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

       I'm not near- nearly at their level.

   16. RARaekwon1:00:16

       Gotcha.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

       But, you know, there's, like, professional archers that are, like, super accurate out to 100 yards.

   18. RARaekwon1:00:21

       Yeah. Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       They can shoot, like, a softball-sized group at 100 yards consistently.

   20. RARaekwon1:00:26

       Yeah. I got a-

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       I'm not-

   22. RARaekwon1:00:26

       ... couple homeboys who can shoot like that, though.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:28

       It's a lot of discipline.

   24. RARaekwon1:00:29

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       A lot of discipline.

   26. RARaekwon1:00:31

       Yeah, but they, they come from ... They live on this side of town, too, though.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       Yeah.

   28. RARaekwon1:00:34

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       Well, there's a lot of bowhunting in Texas.

   30. RARaekwon1:00:36

       Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Episode duration: 2:02:17