The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #2253 - Theo Von
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(drum beat) Joe Rogan podcast,…
- NANarrator
(drum beat) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- TVTheo Von
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)
- NANarrator
If you wanna rock and roll with thousands of-
- TVTheo Von
Who sings that?
- JRJoe Rogan
How- how dare you? How dare you say, "Who sings that?"
- TVTheo Von
No, uh, who, who's, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Angus Young.
- TVTheo Von
A-C-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, Angus Young is the s- the guitarist, right?
- TVTheo Von
Why you so loud though?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a ... Goddammit.
- TVTheo Von
My brother used to beat the shit out of me to that music. But loud.
- NANarrator
Joe Rogan Johnson.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's right. And then, before him.
- NANarrator
Bon Scott.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bon Scott. Bon Scott died of a drug overdose, right?
- TVTheo Von
Aw, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that how he died? Just went too hard.
- TVTheo Von
(gasps) That's the thing. It's like, it's that moment where you're like, "Do we wanna go any harder?" Or-
- JRJoe Rogan
I saw a video of Angus on stage the other night, like recently. He's like 70 years old.
- TVTheo Von
From AC/DC.
- JRJoe Rogan
Going ham. Old fucking dude, white hair, just dancing. See if you can find that video.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just dancing around on stage. Carl is still up. He's like, "Dad, you didn't even put me down yet."
- NANarrator
It takes ... It takes three minutes.
- JRJoe Rogan
It takes three minutes to calm him?
- NANarrator
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You gotta put ... (laughs) You got a whole system?
- NANarrator
It's usually three or four minutes, and then by, for sure seven or eight he's asleep.
- 15:00 – 30:00
Right. …
- JRJoe Rogan
punch kills him-
- TVTheo Von
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's him. It's on him.
- NANarrator
17 when he went down.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, 17 he goes down. Well, so let's see what happens. So, he gives him the- the count, which is a standing eight count, and then he looks at him and he asks him a couple questions. Give me some volume. So, look, he's not looking at the clock. He's looking to save this guy. But look at- look at the wa- look at him. Look at him.
- TVTheo Von
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
He looked him in the eye. He wasn't there.
- TVTheo Von
Three seconds left.
- JRJoe Rogan
But he's doing the right thing. He's doing the right thing. It's crazy if there's three seconds left, but he is doing the right thing.
- TVTheo Von
'Cause a referee's job is to make sure that they stay alive.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Protect the fighter. Protect the fighter.
- TVTheo Von
Because a fighter wouldn't make the right choice you're saying?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TVTheo Von
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's why- that's why a referee has to protect the fighter from a cut. Like, if the cut's too bad, the referee has to call it or bring in a doctor to call it. There's some times where the referee- it's- it's a judgment call and sometimes they get it wrong 'cause they're human, but it's a crazy job. They have the hardest job in the world. So, the guys like Herb Dean, the guys like Mark Goddard, those guys need more praise because th- it's- it's one of the most difficult jobs in all of combat sports other than being a fighter. The second most difficult, for sure, is being a referee.
- TVTheo Von
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause you gotta make these calls. You- you're l- like in the middle of chaos in a world title fight where millions of people are watching.
- TVTheo Von
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you gotta keep this thing together in this very chaotic sport.
- TVTheo Von
That would be so tou- ... Yeah. I- I wonder what are the requirements to be a referee? Like, how much- you know, like, to be one of those, um, like Mark Goddard or, um ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, there's courses you can take. You know, um, I know Big John McCarthy was very instrumental in, uh, educating people. Herb Dean's very instrumental in doing this. There's a lot of these guys. Uh, Mark Goddard. They- they'll put together seminars and help guys that are coming up and- there's probably a formal ... Let's see what's a f- ... Find out, like, what is the website f- that's, like, best for if someone wants to go and learn how to be a referee. But- (clears throat) you know-
- TVTheo Von
Fuck, you could probably just pull up in Memphis and start blowing the whistle on a bunch of shit going down.
- JRJoe Rogan
Most of them are massive fans, of course. Most of them train. Like, Mark Goddard trains. I beli- I believe Mark Goddard's a black belt in jujitsu. We'll have to check that. Uh, Herb Dean, I know had a few MMA fights.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, so they also have s- so- a lot of them also have experience?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. You have to s- have some. You have to know what's going on because sometimes, especially in, like, submissions and things like that, like, it- things get complicated real quick.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like someone not letting go of an inside heel hook and, like, that's a scary one. There's, like- do you remember Husamir Palhares?
- TVTheo Von
Uh-uh. (mimics punching) No way.
- JRJoe Rogan
His- that- his name was 'taquinho, which means, uh, tree trunk. That's, like, his, uh, his nickname.
- TVTheo Von
Husamir? He's Brazilian?
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Oh, yeah. …
- JRJoe Rogan
and the internet. It's like, "What?" I don't even think we're aware of how much more content we absorb than people that were w- you know, when... That lived, like, when I was 21.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
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- TVTheo Von
Well, even if you're just by the airport or whatever, sometimes I wish there'd be like... Can someone turn all this shit off? It's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
... y- y- you don't even know what's going on anymore. I... In the middle of the night, I'll have, like, songs playing in my head that I heard on, like, TikToks and shit. It's just bad. Like, it's gotten to be too much. But I think that there's n- What I'm saying is if, if somebody had all that control at one point, or if a few networks did, there's no way that now that they have less control, they're not still trying to find that control.
- JRJoe Rogan
100%.
- TVTheo Von
And that they're hiring different groups-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
... to be Twitter bots or Twitter personalities or whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah, make TikTok accounts, do TikToks, uh, about issues. One hund- people... Look, people have said flat out that they were offered money, and then they got paid money to make things for political people. Like, make people, make people think that they were really excited about voting for someone. They would pay them for pro-content.
- TVTheo Von
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
So pro whatever that person is. Like, there's a whole business in this where they reach out to popular influencers and they say, "Hey, I want you to endorse this person. Would you do that for X amount of money?" And they do.
- TVTheo Von
Well, didn't that happen with, like, Megan Thee Stallion or somebody? Didn't they, weren't they hired recently or some of th- And I'm sure the Republican Party did it too. I think that was a Democratic one that they had. Where they hire performers to come and perform?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, this was the, this was the big controversy. We tried to get to the bottom of it. It's hard to know. So, the real... Th- the accusation was that there was a few artists. Lizzo was one of 'em.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, that's who it was, Lizzo.
- JRJoe Rogan
Eminem was another one. Um, Beyoncé was the big one.
- TVTheo Von
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And that they were paid an exorbitant amount of money to go and endorse Kamala Harris at these rallies. I don't know if it's true. It seems like there might be something to it. Th- they spent so much money, dude.
- TVTheo Von
I know.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so crazy that the economy is, like, one of the biggest problems that we think of today. Like, if you think of-
- TVTheo Von
Like, what do you mean, the economy?
- JRJoe Rogan
The economy. Like, the, it's, it's, the people who are-
- TVTheo Von
Oh, okay. The US economy.
- JRJoe Rogan
The people, the people that wanna vote on things, what do they want? They want the economy to be healthier. They want us to have less national debt. They want-
- TVTheo Von
Safety?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they want less inflation. They want safety. They want low crime. If that is, uh, the amount of fucking money they went through. Like, you've (laughs) , you, you spent $1.5 billion and you paid celebrities to... If that's true, you paid celebrities? You know, like, how am I supposed to trust you-
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... with spending money?
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Yeah. Oh, I bet…
- JRJoe Rogan
- TVTheo Von
Yeah. Oh, I bet there's a sick Rothschild out there somewhere-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
... and every month they're putting' a new ticker into him.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I was reading a, uh, a story last night about this dude who was one of the R- ... I think he was a Rockefeller, uh, who got eaten. See if th- is- that's ... I th- I believe he's one of the Rock- Rockef- Rothschilds or Rockefellers. Goddammit. One of them fancy people.
- TVTheo Von
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
When you hear their name, you're like, "Oh, that fancy family." You know those?
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, this dude went to New Guinea and got eaten by cannibals.
- TVTheo Von
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Apparently, he went there.
- TVTheo Von
I'd hate ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Michael Rockefeller. So, apparently he went there, um-
- TVTheo Von
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and they were fine, they were fine with him the first time he went there, but he was trying to get something from them. And the something that he was trying to get from them was sacred.
- TVTheo Von
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And apparently, they were very pissed off at him. So, uh, he didn't know that they were pissed off at him, so then wh- when he went back, he thought they'd be friendly with him.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they killed him and ate him.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, my gosh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then they hid it. They hid the story forever. So, they went looking for this guy like, "Hey, uh, my rich cousin is missing. Where is he?" And they're like ... (burps) "I don't know."
- TVTheo Von
They just lie. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) They fucking burp. They just ate that dude.
- TVTheo Von
They just ... somebody just coughs up a, uh, one of those, um, things that keeps your, uh ... What is that thing that goes on the ... into your shirt, Joe?
- JRJoe Rogan
Your cuff?
- TVTheo Von
A cuff link.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, a cuff link.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) I just fucking-
- 1:00:00 – 1:11:56
Right. …
- JRJoe Rogan
gender, or at least you think you do.
- TVTheo Von
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or at least, like, you identify with what they like more than what the boys like. (sighs) You're probably just gay. And-
- TVTheo Von
Yea-
- JRJoe Rogan
... that's one of the things that they've studied, is when they leave transgender or supposedly transgender, uh, youths and they don't do anything, they eventually become gay men.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, I see.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a big- big percentage of them.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Does that mean they're all like that and some people don't j- j- like, genuinely have, like, true gender dysphoria? No. The- they've-
- TVTheo Von
Pfft.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's always been a thing, too.
- TVTheo Von
And being gay used to seem like if you were just gay, that was everything. It was like- it was like- but I guess-
- JRJoe Rogan
Was it everything?
- TVTheo Von
It was like gay didn't- it was like, oh, if you- if you were trans or any- now it's LGBTQI, right? And I'm not- I'm not-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, there's also, yeah, there's intersex-
- TVTheo Von
Plus.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's two, plus.
- TVTheo Von
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is plus?
- TVTheo Von
Huh?
- JRJoe Rogan
Which one is plus?
- TVTheo Von
I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
I know two is Two-Spirit, which is my favorite.
- TVTheo Von
Really? I know I'm gonna meet-
- JRJoe Rogan
Two-Spirit. They took the kooky Two-Spirit people in. (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
The Native Americans?
- JRJoe Rogan
No. Two-Spirit is, like, a- a- a very specific, like, let's Google it. Two-Spirit is, like, you think of, like, foxkin or some shit like that.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, yeah, yeah. People-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they- they- I- this is where I found out that, I- I might be fucking up what Two-Spirit is.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
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