The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #2253 - Theo Von
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150 min read · 30,371 words- 0:00 – 1:02
Cold open: AC/DC theme, band trivia, and chaotic studio energy
- NANarrator
(drum beat) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- TVTheo Von
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)
- NANarrator
If you wanna rock and roll with thousands of-
- TVTheo Von
Who sings that?
- JRJoe Rogan
How- how dare you? How dare you say, "Who sings that?"
- TVTheo Von
No, uh, who, who's, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Angus Young.
- TVTheo Von
A-C-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, Angus Young is the s- the guitarist, right?
- TVTheo Von
Why you so loud though?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a ... Goddammit.
- TVTheo Von
My brother used to beat the shit out of me to that music. But loud.
- NANarrator
Joe Rogan Johnson.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's right. And then, before him.
- NANarrator
Bon Scott.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bon Scott. Bon Scott died of a drug overdose, right?
- TVTheo Von
Aw, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that how he died? Just went too hard.
- TVTheo Von
(gasps) That's the thing. It's like, it's that moment where you're like, "Do we wanna go any harder?" Or-
- JRJoe Rogan
I saw a video of Angus on stage the other night, like recently. He's like 70 years old.
- TVTheo Von
From AC/DC.
- JRJoe Rogan
Going ham. Old fucking dude, white hair, just dancing. See if you can find that video.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- 1:02 – 2:18
Dog calming routines and weighted blankets (for humans… and maybe dogs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Just dancing around on stage. Carl is still up. He's like, "Dad, you didn't even put me down yet."
- NANarrator
It takes ... It takes three minutes.
- JRJoe Rogan
It takes three minutes to calm him?
- NANarrator
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You gotta put ... (laughs) You got a whole system?
- NANarrator
It's usually three or four minutes, and then by, for sure seven or eight he's asleep.
- TVTheo Von
And get him a weighted ... Do they have a weighted blanket or not for him?
- NANarrator
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I don't think they do that for dogs.
- NANarrator
He doesn't have that much anxiety. He's a pretty good ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Does that really work with people? I feel like there's other ways than a weighted blanket.
- TVTheo Von
There was that one video of that, like, really, like, kind of, kind of (laughs) weak kid who gets trapped under one or whatever. Have you ever seen that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no. (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) At that birthday party?
- JRJoe Rogan
How big is the blanket?
- TVTheo Von
I mean, it's like, I guess it's like 80 lb test or whatever. I don't know how heavy the thread.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Like a marlin blanket?
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
A marlin line?
- TVTheo Von
I mean, I don't know how heavy the thread was, but it's like ... He's, like, trying to text for help or whatever on the ... Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus Christ. (laughs) Oh, it's j- it's just a joke?
- TVTheo Von
No, no. I think-
- JRJoe Rogan
It has to be a joke.
- TVTheo Von
I, I, it did, it looked like he-
- JRJoe Rogan
For real, though? He was really trapped?
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, it looked like he c- he was very much trapped under there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, man.
- TVTheo Von
Some div- he was very, um, I don't wanna say malnourished or unnour- you know, he just didn't, he didn't like to eat or whatever. One of those kids that only eats nuggets or whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, well, nuggets are better than just chips. At least nuggets are some kinda protein.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- 2:18 – 3:16
Fast food moral panic: RFK, Chick-fil-A ingredients, and moderation
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, some kinda. What do you think, uh, Bobby Kennedy's gonna do when he gets into the White House?
- TVTheo Von
Did we start?
- JRJoe Rogan
I think we're started. Are we rolling?
- NANarrator
I think we're rolling.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, we're rolling.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, okay. (laughs) Okay, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
So what do you think? They're gonna get rid of nuggets? See-
- TVTheo Von
Oh, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
... here's my take on it. Like, I was just reading this whole thing about, uh, Chick-fil-A.
- TVTheo Von
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they were saying, "This is the most dangerous food in America. The number one burger. Chick-fil-A is, like, the number one fast food sandwich, chicken sandwich, and there's a fucking thousand ingredients, and it's not-" Yeah, just don't eat every day, stupid.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I eat them.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm healthy. I'm real healthy. You just don't eat them every fucking day.
- TVTheo Von
You enjoy them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. You don't ... That's not your primary diet.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, if you're going over there every day or whatever, leaving your kids at home to go get one or something.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
If you're lying-
- JRJoe Rogan
You're just fiending.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're just fiending for Chick-fil-A all day.
- TVTheo Von
Well, they're so good, and they come in that little bag. It almost has that, um ... They come in the unmarked bag, you know.
- 3:16 – 4:57
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- JRJoe Rogan
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- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Feel good. Still work out. Still feel healthy. The key is just don't make that most of what you eat.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Every now and again, a little Chick-fil-A's not gonna hurt nothing.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, treat your lady. Treat your friend. Treat yourself.
- JRJoe Rogan
Treat yourself.
- TVTheo Von
Get off of work. I'm gonna have one today. I'm-
- 4:57 – 8:56
In-N-Out deep cut: the Flying Dutchman, meat freshness, and onion love
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm gonna get me a double-double from In-N-Out. Fuck it.
- TVTheo Von
That's a lot though. Double- just get a regular one. Nah.
- JRJoe Rogan
If you're gonna go hard, go all the way hard.
- TVTheo Von
See, I'm the guy who, I would get two singles instead of getting a double.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what I get at In-N-Out?
- TVTheo Von
Huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
I get the Flying Dutchman.
- TVTheo Von
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what that is?
- TVTheo Von
Uh-uh.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just patties with cheese on it.
- TVTheo Von
Mm. And there's no hay-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so good. It's so good 'cause it's fresh.
- TVTheo Von
There's-
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause In-N-Out doesn't freeze their meat. Their meat is-
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... always fresh, so when you get those ... I mean, it's just perfect, man. Just two burger patties with two slices of cheese, and I pick those greasy bitches up and ... Nom, nom, nom, nom. And I feel great. I don't feel bad at all.
- TVTheo Von
At last.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like the closest thing you can get to healthy food at a fast food spot.
- TVTheo Von
And so you're ... And there's no bread on them?
- JRJoe Rogan
No bread. No bread, no nothing, no sauce, no ketchup.
- TVTheo Von
And what do you pick them up with? You pick them up with two forks?
- JRJoe Rogan
My fingers, like a fucking pig.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Like a sloppy glutton. (laughs) I just ... I just resigned myself.
- TVTheo Von
That's that Missouri sushi, dude. You're fucking getting freaking ... (laughs) It's meat and cheese. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Just meat and cheese and greasy fingers.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, damn, dude. That's that Montana sashimi, brother.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's so hot. It's so hot, you can barely hold onto it. Oh, people do it with the onions on it too. Yeah, I've had that.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, I haven't seen all this.
- 8:56 – 14:49
Spicy fruit, hydration products, and praising Mexican culture (plus boxing lore)
- JRJoe Rogan
More, right? You know what I had the other day that was really good? Watermelon with salt on it. You ever have that?
- TVTheo Von
No, I haven't had that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, it's... Like, it's you either love it, or you li- what the fuck have you done to watermelon?
- TVTheo Von
Oh, I could see that.
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I love it.
- TVTheo Von
Mexican people like to put crazy shit on fruit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Chili mango.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Chili mango, man. That's a-
- TVTheo Von
They're like-
- JRJoe Rogan
... big one in Mexico.
- TVTheo Von
"You like this fruit?" And they're like-
- JRJoe Rogan
They nailed it.
- TVTheo Von
... "Now, you like it or what, motherfucker?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) They get spicy fruit-
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) Yeah, they get crazy, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, ch- but chili mango works uniquely. Like, out of all spicy fruits, that's the one that caught on so much it made it to potato chips.
- TVTheo Von
Chili mango?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Chili mango is in everything.
- TVTheo Von
I haven't had that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, dude, I drink chili mango LMNT. You know what LMNT is? Like, the s- uh, hydration mix.
- TVTheo Von
Uh-uh.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's nice. It's uh-
- TVTheo Von
I like a hydration, though.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's, uh, Robb Wolf's company, right? I believe so.
- TVTheo Von
Dude, why are people... Why is there so much hydration now? And also, dude, thank you to-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
I just wanna say thank you to Mexican people just for doing everything that they do, dude. I feel like every week, we should have a round of applause for Mexican people, I feel like, in America.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's weird to wanna keep 'em out, you know? They have some of the best food. They're the nicest people. They are har-... They're the har-... Some of the hardest working people. Like, one of the, uh-
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, and they're organ donors too, a lot of 'em.
- 14:49 – 20:36
Referees’ toughest job: fight stoppages, training, and the Palhares problem
- TVTheo Von
And what would you do in that situation then?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, he- he's doing the right thing. The ref- the referee is there to save the fighter. If he takes one more punch in those two seconds and that one punch kills him-
- TVTheo Von
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's him. It's on him.
- NANarrator
17 when he went down.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, 17 he goes down. Well, so let's see what happens. So, he gives him the- the count, which is a standing eight count, and then he looks at him and he asks him a couple questions. Give me some volume. So, look, he's not looking at the clock. He's looking to save this guy. But look at- look at the wa- look at him. Look at him.
- TVTheo Von
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
He looked him in the eye. He wasn't there.
- TVTheo Von
Three seconds left.
- JRJoe Rogan
But he's doing the right thing. He's doing the right thing. It's crazy if there's three seconds left, but he is doing the right thing.
- TVTheo Von
'Cause a referee's job is to make sure that they stay alive.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Protect the fighter. Protect the fighter.
- TVTheo Von
Because a fighter wouldn't make the right choice you're saying?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TVTheo Von
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's why- that's why a referee has to protect the fighter from a cut. Like, if the cut's too bad, the referee has to call it or bring in a doctor to call it. There's some times where the referee- it's- it's a judgment call and sometimes they get it wrong 'cause they're human, but it's a crazy job. They have the hardest job in the world. So, the guys like Herb Dean, the guys like Mark Goddard, those guys need more praise because th- it's- it's one of the most difficult jobs in all of combat sports other than being a fighter. The second most difficult, for sure, is being a referee.
- TVTheo Von
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause you gotta make these calls. You- you're l- like in the middle of chaos in a world title fight where millions of people are watching.
- TVTheo Von
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you gotta keep this thing together in this very chaotic sport.
- TVTheo Von
That would be so tou- ... Yeah. I- I wonder what are the requirements to be a referee? Like, how much- you know, like, to be one of those, um, like Mark Goddard or, um ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, there's courses you can take. You know, um, I know Big John McCarthy was very instrumental in, uh, educating people. Herb Dean's very instrumental in doing this. There's a lot of these guys. Uh, Mark Goddard. They- they'll put together seminars and help guys that are coming up and- there's probably a formal ... Let's see what's a f- ... Find out, like, what is the website f- that's, like, best for if someone wants to go and learn how to be a referee. But- (clears throat) you know-
- TVTheo Von
Fuck, you could probably just pull up in Memphis and start blowing the whistle on a bunch of shit going down.
- JRJoe Rogan
Most of them are massive fans, of course. Most of them train. Like, Mark Goddard trains. I beli- I believe Mark Goddard's a black belt in jujitsu. We'll have to check that. Uh, Herb Dean, I know had a few MMA fights.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, so they also have s- so- a lot of them also have experience?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. You have to s- have some. You have to know what's going on because sometimes, especially in, like, submissions and things like that, like, it- things get complicated real quick.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like someone not letting go of an inside heel hook and, like, that's a scary one. There's, like- do you remember Husamir Palhares?
- TVTheo Von
Uh-uh. (mimics punching) No way.
- JRJoe Rogan
His- that- his name was 'taquinho, which means, uh, tree trunk. That's, like, his, uh, his nickname.
- 20:36 – 25:55
Pickled eggs, truck-stop life, and spiraling into internet conspiracies
- TVTheo Von
I can't believe we just saw Shane too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, what did you say, he looked like a pickled egg? (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) How dare you? Isn't that what you're saying?
- JRJoe Rogan
I knew right away, you hadn't seen him in how long? As soon as you saw him, Shane's in the-
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... Shane's in the sauna and you're like, "You look like a pickled egg."
- TVTheo Von
Well, he looked like one of those kind of eggs, like in a, in a little cage or whatever at the gas station, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Those bucket eggs. The ones that are on the bars.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The pickled. Give me one of them pickled eggs. Do you know how fucking hungry you have to be?
- TVTheo Von
Oh. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Fuck, these fucking eggs, who knows how long they've been sitting there.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You're like, "Yeah, give me one of them."
- TVTheo Von
And there's always some trucker over there just bobbing for apples in the tank of them, like bleep, bleep, bleep.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It looks so unsanitary.
- TVTheo Von
Bro, and the fart that rips out of your body off of that thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
How are you gonna ban Chick-fil-A but you're not gonna ban that?
- TVTheo Von
I know. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Imagine.
- TVTheo Von
Dude, that has to be RFK's arch nemesis right there.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Imagine if you were living off those eggs, the farts you would have.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
If that's your only food source.
- TVTheo Von
Ugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like let's imagine-
- TVTheo Von
Ugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you're like stuck on a boat in the middle of the ocean with only bottled eggs.
- 25:55 – 29:09
Sock puppets, anonymity, and bot armies shaping public opinion
- JRJoe Rogan
Are you, are you aware of the Elon Musk/Adrian Ditman controversy?
- TVTheo Von
That he-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
I saw something. There's a... They, they, they said he, that he was a fake pers- that he made a fake...
- JRJoe Rogan
A so, it's ca- I think they call them sock puppet accounts.
- TVTheo Von
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's, uh, it's generally frowned upon to have a fake account. Like, it seems like it would be a fun way to fuck around online.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't have one.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it seems like it would be a fun way to fuck around online.
- TVTheo Von
It takes a lot of time, it seems like.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but you can have, like, a fake account where if you, if you're a public person, you know, like Elon Musk, and you wanna say some wild shit, but you don't wanna take responsibility for it. (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You just wanna shitpost like everybody else.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Like an anonymous person.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, that's true. He can't do that, really.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I would say that would be a smart thing to do.
- TVTheo Von
Did it, was it really him, did they find out?
- JRJoe Rogan
But is that, is that unethical? That when one person can call themselves, you know, Cat Turd, you know, that's a legit name for a dude. I don't know anything about that cat. But he can, that guy can just talk about anything he wants to talk about. But if Elon Musk does it, well, he has the responsibility of his public image. But maybe he doesn't want that.
- TVTheo Von
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like if you, it's... I don't have a problem with either one of them.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, sometimes you just wanna-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't have a-
- TVTheo Von
... shed your skin, you just wanna take a layer off.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
And you wanna relax at the house and you wanna kick your feet up and yell something down the hallway you shouldn't yell.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TVTheo Von
And that's what he wants to do.
- 29:09 – 54:40
From broadcast monopolies to crackdown fears: UK speech arrests and bot-era politics
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, I think that sounds very plausible, especially these days there's like, there's not as much... You know, it used to be that a lot of media was controlled by a few channels and networks, right? I mean, that's safe to say. Would you agree with that?
- JRJoe Rogan
It was all controlled by a few channels.
- TVTheo Von
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was all... I mean, you, all you had... When we were kids, you had... I remember when cable came out. It was crazy.
- TVTheo Von
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
What was before that?
- JRJoe Rogan
You had ABC, NBC, CBS. That's it.
- TVTheo Von
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, that's it. And then out of nowhere-
- TVTheo Von
You had three chances for-
- JRJoe Rogan
You had Fox. Fox was crazy. Married with Children, The Simpsons.
- TVTheo Von
(singing)
- JRJoe Rogan
Fox was nuts.Fox was this wild network. So that was-
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, Fox.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that was the fourth, that was the fourth network. All of a sudden-
- TVTheo Von
Married With Children was so good, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
So good. So you have this fourth network, and then cable comes along, and then satellite, and now streaming and the internet. It's like, "What?" I don't even think we're aware of how much more content we absorb than people that were w- you know, when... That lived, like, when I was 21.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
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- TVTheo Von
Well, even if you're just by the airport or whatever, sometimes I wish there'd be like... Can someone turn all this shit off? It's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
... y- y- you don't even know what's going on anymore. I... In the middle of the night, I'll have, like, songs playing in my head that I heard on, like, TikToks and shit. It's just bad. Like, it's gotten to be too much. But I think that there's n- What I'm saying is if, if somebody had all that control at one point, or if a few networks did, there's no way that now that they have less control, they're not still trying to find that control.
- JRJoe Rogan
100%.
- TVTheo Von
And that they're hiring different groups-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
... to be Twitter bots or Twitter personalities or whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah, make TikTok accounts, do TikToks, uh, about issues. One hund- people... Look, people have said flat out that they were offered money, and then they got paid money to make things for political people. Like, make people, make people think that they were really excited about voting for someone. They would pay them for pro-content.
- TVTheo Von
Right.
- 54:40 – 1:09:19
Plastics, endocrine disruption, autism, and the ‘alien future’ riff
- TVTheo Von
Dude, if people, that's why I've said this for years, people with autism are the, they are the link between regular people and machines. It's, that's where we're headed. It's all-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
No, in seven, two generations everyone will have autism, you won't be able to find anybody that doesn't have it or that doesn't, like kinda freak out-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's almost like-
- TVTheo Von
... if, like, somebody's, like, whistling or whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's, it's almost like, whatever the reason why more people have autism today, I'm sure there's a bunch of people that think it's vaccines, there's a bunch of people who think it's environmental issues, there's a bunch of people who think it's-
- TVTheo Von
Think it's Chick-fil-A some people, probably.
- JRJoe Rogan
Could be. Could be Doritos.
- TVTheo Von
I'll take it though, dude. It's so fucking good. There's no way you wouldn't take some Chick-fil-autism if they had it, bro. You know what I'm saying? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
If you like, every now and then just a weird guy runs out of the back room with a s- couple of pickles on his back, dude, I'd fucking be like, "I love this guy no matter what he has," you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
I totally forgot what I was gonna say.
- TVTheo Von
Sorry, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it was... (laughs) . It had something to do with autism that, oh, what we were talking about, like-
- TVTheo Von
Oh, I think that this is the end of their realm.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no. So just imagine.
- TVTheo Von
All right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. So there's, whatever the reason why there's more cases of autism, most people, I think, will agree there are more cases of autism now than ever before.
- TVTheo Von
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
But what meaningful changes have we done, if any, to try to limit that, or to try to mitigate that, or pull that back? I'm not sure. And what meaningful, like, like, what progress has been made where you're saying, like, "Oh, now we have 20% less autistic kids"?
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So if, so if that's not the case and yet we're i- in the greatest technological time that we've ever been aware of, and people have more access to information now than ever before, why, why is it moving in that direction? And maybe that is a natural thing. Maybe all this transgender shit where everybody's like, "Oh my God, like, I am so sick of hearing there's boys and there's girls," and that's it. Maybe when you find out about plastics and the things that's happening to the human body because it's fucking with our endocrine system and it's, uh, it- it's shrinking people's genitals, and shrinking people's taints, and it's lowering testosterone levels-
- TVTheo Von
Oh my God, I didn't even know that.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and causing more, more miscarriages, causing more miscarriages. If you were watching this play out, if you were not connected to us-
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and if you were, like, from another planet and you were like, "What is this thing doing? Oh." So this is a very complicated animal, and this animal gets involved in various plastics and metals and the, it has a symbiotic relationship with plastics and metals. Where the plastics and metals, it gives them cars and handbags and television sets, but it also robs them of their primal essence and slowly turns them into these genderless, weird creatures that can only survive by replicating through their DNA.
- TVTheo Von
Dude, well said, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause if you were, if you were looking at it from somewhere else and you were looking at-
- TVTheo Von
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... well, what are we addicted to? We're addicted to electronics and we're addicted to plastic.
- 1:09:19 – 1:23:48
Trans discourse collisions: OnlyFans ‘fake bulges,’ hoaxes, bathrooms, and sports
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Yeah. Just because it's more ... 'cause why they ... (laughs) because they realize there's more money in gay steaks? Yeah. (laughs) You're like, "I'll take a steak." They're like, "Is he gay?" Like, like listen. You're like, "He fucking better be, buddy." In the, in the attention market that is social media, there has to be a few people out there that are pretending to be gay that aren't. Like here's a good example. Oh, for sure. Here's a good example. There were a bunch of girls, and people got mad at them because their hot female OnlyFans girls, and they started putting fake dicks in their, in their pants. Okay. And pretending that they're trans 'cause that was getting them a lot more views. Oh. So apparently the way to get a lot of views is to be a really hot trans person. Hm. Like, really hot trans people are in right now. Oh? Like, really hot like a girl, like a super hot girl, with a hog on you. With that smoker- Big old, big old hog on you. (laughs) So people got mad and started saying that my identity is not your costume. Like, the actual trans people. Like cultural appropriation, kinda? Yeah, but like, hey! Right. Aren't you doing that? (laughs) Are you doing that? You have a dick and you're saying you're a girl, and then these girls who don't have a dick are putting a dick on, and you're saying you can't do that. Oh, so they're all- This is crazy. (laughs) Yeah, it's like we're caught in a blender, dude. Dude, I heard- First of all, it's very shortsighted because you should be pro trans even if it's fake trans. Right. If you ... That would make more people into trans people, that'd be better for everybody. Right, no matter what. Now, are some people ... It's the famine thinking. Are there really some people ... Are people born with wiener and breast? Is that a real thing? I have not heard of that, but I know that some guys do have problems with their breasts. Like, there's a thing when guys take steroids, they develop something called gynecomastia. And gynecomastia's an enlargement of the breast tissue. I know guys who have had to get their nipples cut open. Mm-hmm. And they have to get that removed and then sewn back together again. Oh. And it's like a serious operation. But so are some people- But that is, that's breast tissue because they take so much testosterone that their body starts producing extra estrogen. Okay. And then they get titties as a side effect. Yeah. I don't ... I hope I'm not fucking that up. Uh, that's what I've been told. (laughs) I'm pretty sure that's how it goes. But the point is, that's the only time I've ever heard of, like, with a dick and tits. But some people are born with both genitals, right? Yes. That's a little different, right? That's pretty rare. That's called a hermaphrodite, or now I think the call them intersex now. People are always trying to come up with new names. Oh yeah, my buddy- See that's it. ... had these growing up. Hot tits.
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