Joe Rogan Experience #2257 - Bryan Callen

1. 0:00 – 0:55

   Cigars, bad breath, and Callen’s “second-family” life choices

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. BCBryan Callen0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) Do you have good... towards it. My wife, uh, I smoked one of these and I didn't brush my teeth. I woke up the next morning and my wife said, "Your breath is four dimensional." (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      (laughs) You didn't brush your teeth before you went to bed and you smoked a cigar?

   5. BCBryan Callen0:24

      No. Of course I didn't brush my teeth before I went to bed.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      Ugh.

   7. BCBryan Callen0:25

      Give a fuck?

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:26

      Ugh.

   9. BCBryan Callen0:27

      You know what I mean? You're married, you're married. She was like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Ugh.

   11. BCBryan Callen0:28

       ... "I love you so much. Your breath is four dimensional."

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Ooh.

   13. BCBryan Callen0:32

       You know these fires... I, uh, w- I have two small children now. 'Cause what I wanna do is, what you wanna do is you wanna get divorced and then you wanna have, get married again to a woman who's 23 years younger and then have two more kids, 'cause that's good. And, uh, and then I-

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       (laughs) Definitely takes a lot of financial stress off your back.

   15. BCBryan Callen0:48

       Oh, dude. There's no financial stress at all. It's great.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       (laughs)

   17. BCBryan Callen0:50

       You know what? If I hustled til I'm 80, I'll be fine. Anyway, um...

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       (laughs)

2. 0:55 – 4:07

   LA wildfire evacuation confusion and city incompetence

   1. BCBryan Callen0:55

      Oof. (laughs) It's gonna be really awkward when I call you at 75, "I, I just need help this month." But anyway, so I, uh, fucking, um, I, I look at her and I go, um... She's like a girl from Jersey, like Irish-Italian chick, no nonsense, you know. Been working since she was 16. And I go, um, "You know, they, we had an evacuation order that they sent out by accident to people even down where I'm at."

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:17

      Yeah, what was that?

   3. BCBryan Callen1:18

      It was some guy who fucked up, because I don't know if you know, this is gonna s- be, this is gonna be shocking. Grab the table.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:24

      Wait a minute.

   5. BCBryan Callen1:24

      LA's not run very well. (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:26

      Hold on!

   7. BCBryan Callen1:26

      I know. Hold on.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:27

      What the fuck you saying?

   9. BCBryan Callen1:28

      Well, because, see, here's the thing. We have to worry about-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:30

       Wait a minute.

   11. BCBryan Callen1:30

       I know. It's-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:31

       Isn't the chief of fire department a lesbian?

   13. BCBryan Callen1:33

       Now, hold on. Let's not turn this into-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:35

       LA's run amazing.

   15. BCBryan Callen1:35

       Listen, here's the bottom line.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:36

       It's run amazingly.

   17. BCBryan Callen1:37

       It's not about infrastructure. Infrastructure's gotta take-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       I won't sit here while you disparage the great people-

   19. BCBryan Callen1:42

       Sir-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:43

       ... that are running Los Angeles.

   21. BCBryan Callen1:44

       Sir, infrastructure's gotta take a backseat to climate change and social justice and homeless abatement, which hasn't worked.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:49

       See the lady who's responsible for filling the fire hydrants gets paid $750,000 a year?

   23. BCBryan Callen1:55

       Hey, your tax dollar's going to good work there, everybody.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:58

       That's a lot of money.

   25. BCBryan Callen1:59

       You think?

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:59

       That's sitcom money.

   27. BCBryan Callen2:00

       You think? I said my-

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:01

       That's like, "I'm the star of a sitcom."

   29. BCBryan Callen2:03

       Oh, dude. It's-

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:04

       Not star, but like you're the third person on the sitcom.
3. 4:07 – 10:48

   Fire department optics, DEI rhetoric, and what people want in an emergency

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:07

      And that's a giant wake-up call, when you realize, like, no, this, these fucking people, this is not the way to do it. Did you see that lady, the, the fire lady, uh, who's a part of this whole diversity thing? They said, uh, "You're a woman firefighter. Can you w- if, can you carry my husband out of a burning building?" She was like, "Well, if your husband's in a burning building, he already made a mistake."

   2. BCBryan Callen4:26

      (laughs) Is that what she said?

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:28

      She's a big old sassy-

   4. BCBryan Callen4:29

      My-

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:29

      ... fat Black lady.

   6. BCBryan Callen4:30

      ... yeah. My favorite was that, one of the women said, "You want people to rep- to look like you." And-

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:35

      Same lady.

   8. BCBryan Callen4:35

      And I'm like, "Hey, listen."

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:36

      Same lady.

   10. BCBryan Callen4:36

       "Hey, lady. When, when my house is on fire and I'm trying to get my kids out, I'm not gonna be like, 'Hey, I got, I... Can I get some people that look like me? Because this, this doesn't make me feel safe.'"

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:45

       I wanna be able to look like Brian Shaw.

   12. BCBryan Callen4:48

       So do I.

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:48

       I wanna be able to come through fucking-

   14. BCBryan Callen4:49

       So do I.

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:50

       ... walls looking like juggernaut.

   16. BCBryan Callen4:51

       They can be white as the driven snow.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:52

       (laughs) I wanna be able to look like-

   18. BCBryan Callen4:52

       Okay, they, if they look, if they look like a White Walker and they can get me out of that fucking fire, I'm in. I want Brian Shaw.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:57

       I wanna be able to be a giant dude who can carry people.

   20. BCBryan Callen4:59

       Yeah, with a mustache that goes like this.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:00

       Yeah.

   22. BCBryan Callen5:01

       Right?

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:01

       Fucking handlebars. Yeah.

   24. BCBryan Callen5:02

       I love firemen.

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       Yeah.

   26. BCBryan Callen5:03

       I'm such a, I'm so gay that when I saw... They came by, I saw some firemen, and I didn't know what to do. I was, I wanted to say something like, "Go get them, guys," or something like that, and I, and I literally went like this.

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:14

       Ugh.

   28. BCBryan Callen5:14

       I went, I saluted them. I went...

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:18

       That's good. Something.

   30. BCBryan Callen5:18

       It was a little embarrassing.
4. 10:48 – 12:55

   Fire behavior is a ‘storm’: Rogan’s Fear Factor memories and evacuation realities

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:48

      The thing about... I mean, this is from someone who's been through it a few times. You don't understand. You think it's just a fire. It's not. It's a storm.

   2. BCBryan Callen10:56

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:56

      So I saw fire tornadoes.

   4. BCBryan Callen10:59

      You did?

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:59

      Until you've seen a... Yeah, I saw fire tornadoes. When we were filming-

   6. BCBryan Callen11:03

      It's terrifying.

   7. JRJoe Rogan11:03

      We were filming on Fear Factor, and ironically, this was the same time where this fireman was explaining to me what's gonna happen in LA. We were filming Fear Factor, and when we were driving back, the entire ri-... I go-... I watched a guy die.

   8. BCBryan Callen11:16

      What?

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:16

      I watched a guy run across the highway and get hit by a car.

   10. BCBryan Callen11:19

       What the fuck?

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:20

       Yeah. I didn't see him get hit by a car, but I saw him.

   12. BCBryan Callen11:23

       Jesus Christ.

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:23

       Uh, he was... And my, um, producer, the producer of the show apparently saw more. He saw, like, graphic... You know. People were panicking. Um, the, there was ash falling from the sky like it was snowing. It was crazy. And everyone's driving, and no one... Everyone's got this, like, somber, like, 50-mile-an-hour driving. The entire right side of the highway for an hour. Like-

   14. BCBryan Callen11:50

       What?

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:50

       We were filming-

   16. BCBryan Callen11:50

       And you could feel that heat, right?

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:52

       Yeah, we were filming off the 5, so we were, like, way up by, you know, like, as you're heading towards Bakerfield.

   18. BCBryan Callen11:59

       Simi Valley and S- Oh, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:00

       Bakersfield, like that area. That was... Was that off the 5 or the 10? Whatever the fuck it is. Um, when we were... We were pretty far away, and it was a whole hour driving back where the whole right side of the highway was in flames.... it got, I mean, completely engulfed-

   20. BCBryan Callen12:15

       Jesus Christ.

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:15

       ... like a Lord of the Rings movie where you're waiting for Sauron to come riding on an evil horse over the top of it. It was nuts. It was fucking nuts. And you would see fire tornadoes, man. The fire was fucking insane.

   22. BCBryan Callen12:29

       There's nothing you can do to-

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:30

       And it's flying through the air, so you're worried your car's gonna catch fire. One of the things that happens is people get stuck on highways, cars catch fire, and the fire and the winds just roll through the whole highway and everybody burns alive inside their cars.

   24. BCBryan Callen12:44

       What?

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:44

       Yeah, that happened at, what is it, the camp, park camp? What was the big fire-

   26. BCBryan Callen12:48

       Oh, that's right. That, that, that's-

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:49

       ... in Northern California.

   28. BCBryan Callen12:50

       Yeah, in the city. I know it's done-

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:51

       A ton of people died in their cars.

   30. BCBryan Callen12:53

       Horrifying. Horrifying.
5. 12:55 – 15:25

   Palisades destruction, survivor houses, and the rebuilding/insurance dilemma

   1. BCBryan Callen12:55

      The h- you know, I gotta tell you, the crazy thing about the Pacific Palisades was that eight years ago, probably, eight, maybe almost nine years ago, I looked at houses there with my, my ex-wife, and we came so close to buying a house 'cause it was s- it's such a beautiful place. We didn't buy it 'cause it was a little too expensive, to be honest with you, it was like, it was like, you know, just a little out of our price, you know, point. But, uh, even like for a smaller house, it was expensive, right? But it's beautiful neighborhood.

   2. JRJoe Rogan13:22

      Yeah, it's a pricey area, but it's gorgeous.

   3. BCBryan Callen13:23

      The last thing, the last thing... The last thing you would ever think, the last thing is, um, that that house would burn down or there was a fire hazard, especially down like where Gelson's was or the whole town. That, dude, when I'm saying the town is gone, do you know the only structure that's standing is that guy Caruso, that mayor, the guy who ran for mayor, narrowly lost to Karen Bass? He built that mall out of fire retardant material and that's the only structures that pretty much downtown that are, that in, in the town of Cali- um, Pacific Palisades. Frank Grillo, um, our buddy-

   4. JRJoe Rogan13:53

      Mm-hmm.

   5. BCBryan Callen13:53

      ... his old house burned right to the ground. Just done. Just gone.

   6. JRJoe Rogan13:56

      Yeah, Segura's house burned to the ground.

   7. BCBryan Callen13:58

      Everybody's. That didn't Mel Gibson's?

   8. JRJoe Rogan14:00

      The one he sold. Yeah, Mel Gibson's burned to the ground too.

   9. BCBryan Callen14:02

      Look at that, look at that, dude. Look at that.

   10. JRJoe Rogan14:03

       It's insane.

   11. BCBryan Callen14:03

       Nobody in a million years... I'm telling you, nope-

   12. JRJoe Rogan14:06

       That's so crazy.

   13. BCBryan Callen14:06

       When you bought a house there, nobody said anything about fire. No one.

   14. JRJoe Rogan14:10

       That's so... And by the way, fire insurance in LA... Why, look at that one house, perfect. Isn't that crazy?

   15. BCBryan Callen14:15

       Yeah, that's crazy.

   16. JRJoe Rogan14:16

       What's that made out of?

   17. BCBryan Callen14:17

       I don't know.

   18. JRJoe Rogan14:18

       The fucking-

   19. BCBryan Callen14:18

       I, I think just the wind blew a different direction or something.

   20. JRJoe Rogan14:20

       I don't know, man.

   21. BCBryan Callen14:21

       It's crazy.

   22. JRJoe Rogan14:21

       I think it's gotta be what the house is made of, 'cause that wind's blowing everywhere.

   23. BCBryan Callen14:24

       No, I, I don't think any house withstands that kind of fire. I think that's fucked up.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:27

       Are you sure?

   25. BCBryan Callen14:28

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan14:28

       How do you know? Are you a builder?

   27. BCBryan Callen14:29

       I am (laughs) .

   28. JRJoe Rogan14:30

       You're not a builder.

   29. BCBryan Callen14:31

       That's Bryan Callen just, "Nah, nah, I don't believe anything can burn in California."

   30. JRJoe Rogan14:34

       I- can't you make a house out of all concrete?
6. 15:25 – 1:05:45

   Looting, arson rumors, and the problem of unreliable information

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:25

      Because people are looting like fucking crazy. Gigantic groups of 100 men, organized, are pulling into neighborhoods that are being evacuated-

   2. BCBryan Callen15:35

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:35

      ... smashing through doors and pulling out TVs. There's film footage of 'em.

   4. BCBryan Callen15:39

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:39

      There's also a bunch of people that have been caught setting fires.

   6. BCBryan Callen15:42

      Yeah, I'd be sh- I- I would, I would, I think they should be put to death.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:46

      One guy got caught setting fires and he had a UN debit card.

   8. BCBryan Callen15:50

      What?

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:51

      And he had a bunch... I'll so- I'll send it to Jamie. The guy that got arrested for, I'll t- I'll tell you which, which fire it was, but he got arrested, he had a UN card. I'll tell you exactly.

   10. BCBryan Callen16:05

       This kind of, this kind of tragedy-

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       I don't wanna fuck this up.

   12. BCBryan Callen16:07

       ... brings out the best in people and the worst in people. The one thing it does i- in these communities, it brings all these people together.

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       Mm-hmm.

   14. BCBryan Callen16:14

       You know, my buddy started to cry because I was on the phone with him, he lost everything, right? And he, they're gonna come stay with us and he said, um, he, when I was on the phone, somebody, these people dropped by and dropped off clothes for them. And he's got a lot of money and he started to cry, man. He was like, uh, d- I can't tell you how many people have reached out. But-

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:30

       He had five cell phones and a United Nations prepaid debit card.

   16. BCBryan Callen16:35

       I, I, I'm skeptical. Is this conspiracy-

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:37

       Of course you are. You're always skeptical. You son of a bitch.

   18. BCBryan Callen16:39

       Is this conspiracy... I just don't wanna be played.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:41

       No, um, I think The New York Post did a thing about it.

   20. BCBryan Callen16:45

       You know what I mean, though? I don't wanna be played. I don't know what's true anymore.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:47

       Maybe The N- New York Post didn't post that he had the debit card.

   22. BCBryan Callen16:51

       Yeah. I don't know what's true anymore. See?

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:52

       I'm getting this from the Texas Patriot Twitter account (laughs) .

   24. BCBryan Callen16:55

       See? See? (laughs) I told you. I'm, I'm already like, "Mm, I don't know."

   25. NANarrator17:00

       They, they said that The New York Post has edited the info out of their article.

   26. BCBryan Callen17:04

       Thank you.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:05

       Why? Because it's not true?

   28. BCBryan Callen17:05

       Spread rumors, Joe Rogan.

   29. NANarrator17:06

       The Texas Patriot account said that.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:08

       Oh, so then-
7. 22:33 – 29:17

   Buddhism, ego, ‘where are you?’ and Rogan’s pushback on mysticism

   1. BCBryan Callen22:33

      Ever tell you his, his theory on, uh, on what he thinks this whole thing is? This whole, you know, ah, it's a simulation or whatever.

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:40

      Mm.

   3. BCBryan Callen22:40

      You're a, he's... 'Cause, you know... So, so Newton, there's Newtonian physics, right, which is this matter here, and then there's quantum physics, study of the electron that Einstein was a pioneer of and blah, blah, blah. So, Einstein was working on what's called the theory of everything, which was the bridge. How do you, how do you... 'Cause a lot of times the rules in this ether, in Newtonian, in the world that we live in are different wh- when it comes to gravity and light than they are on a quantum level. So, what is the bridge? How do we bring them together? Well, how do we reconcile both realities?

   4. JRJoe Rogan23:10

      Right.

   5. BCBryan Callen23:11

      So that's the theory of everything. So Eric is obsessed with that and kinda works from that.

   6. JRJoe Rogan23:15

      Well, he made his own theory of everything.

   7. BCBryan Callen23:16

      Yeah, so his idea is that maybe the singularity is already here and maybe we're already machines and we are... So, so watch this. So we're already machines replicating better machines, better versions of ourselves. And it's kind of an interesting 'cause, 'cause it kinda fold dovetails with Buddhism, right? So watch this. I'm gonna do an experiment on you that, that a Buddhist ******* will ask somebody.

   8. JRJoe Rogan23:38

      Oh, should I get prepared?

   9. BCBryan Callen23:39

      Get, get, get in the lotus-

   10. JRJoe Rogan23:40

       (inhales)

   11. BCBryan Callen23:41

       Get in the lotus position. There it is.

   12. JRJoe Rogan23:43

       Oh.

   13. BCBryan Callen23:45

       Ommmm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:45

       (exhales)

   15. BCBryan Callen23:45

       There it is. Dude, good breathing.

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:47

       I'm ready. (laughs)

   17. BCBryan Callen23:48

       Good breathing. Too much-

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:49

       I'm watching this guy-

   19. BCBryan Callen23:49

       Too much yang energy.

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:50

       ... doing, uh-

   21. BCBryan Callen23:51

       Bring your yin in.

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:52

       ... DMT breathing today on Instagram. He was explaining how to spike your DMT and communicate with entities.

   23. BCBryan Callen23:58

       Oh, that's good.

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:58

       And he was saying how you, you, you, you, you compress your, your balls and your asshole and all your sex organs. And then through your abdominals and you exhale all your breath. (exhales)

   25. BCBryan Callen24:11

       Goo- And you gotta-

   26. JRJoe Rogan24:12

       And then you breathe like this. (sighs)

   27. BCBryan Callen24:18

       And then you come?

   28. JRJoe Rogan24:20

       And you get that DMT flow.

   29. BCBryan Callen24:21

       Oh, is that what you get?

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:22

       I don't know.
8. 29:17 – 30:35

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9. 30:35 – 36:43

   Growing up, becoming less reactive, and the psychology of LA ambition

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:35

      ... yeah, I think all those things are tools to try to break out of the ego.

   2. BCBryan Callen30:41

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:41

      Right? It's all the- the problem that most people have is they think about themselves all the time, and the worst version of it is extreme narcissism, you know, and sociopathy. And then the- the best people are the people that think about others more than they think about themselves.

   4. BCBryan Callen30:54

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:54

      Those are the people that we admire the most.

   6. BCBryan Callen30:56

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:56

      The people that, like, genuinely think about other people-

   8. BCBryan Callen30:58

      That's right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:58

      ... a lot.

   10. BCBryan Callen30:59

       That's right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       I think one thing that I really genuinely do try to do is I try to not think about myself.

   12. BCBryan Callen31:05

       Yep.

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       I think about things that I must do. (clears throat) Uh, I do think about things that I don't like that I did. Like, "I don't like how I handled that conversation. Maybe I c- maybe I was coming in, like, a little hot. Maybe I was coming in at a five, and I should've been at a two, and maybe- maybe the reason why it became a d- a- like, a contentious argument was my fault."

   14. BCBryan Callen31:25

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:25

       You know? And I've re-

   16. BCBryan Callen31:26

       Very good.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:27

       I'm so much better at that than when I w- I was when I was younger-

   18. BCBryan Callen31:29

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:30

       ... at, like, I can have a conversation with someone that I vehemently disagree with and keep it very civil.

   20. BCBryan Callen31:35

       Yeah, when we were younger, both you and I-

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:36

       Yeah. Yeah.

   22. BCBryan Callen31:36

       ... we'd start shouting our opinions.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:38

       Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's-

   24. BCBryan Callen31:39

       It was about winning. It wasn't even about-

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:39

       Also, we were all retarded.

   26. BCBryan Callen31:41

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:41

       And we were young and stupid, and we had bad role models. (laughs)

   28. BCBryan Callen31:44

       (laughs) Dude. Dude.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:44

       So we were- like there was a lot of things going on there.

   30. BCBryan Callen31:47

       The worst.
10. 36:43 – 47:39

    Zuckerberg, masculinity, training, and the backlash to ‘woke’ overcorrections

    1. JRJoe Rogan36:43

       Yeah, you gotta get involved. And get some peptides and all that stuff. I, I was talking to Zuckerberg yesterday. And he's, uh, he got his knee reconstructed. I said, "Did you get on any peptides?" He said no. I go, "Do you hate healing?"

    2. BCBryan Callen36:54

       (laughs) He looks great, by the way.

    3. JRJoe Rogan36:55

       He does. He looks good. He's got a thick neck now.

    4. BCBryan Callen36:56

       He's got a... I know.

    5. JRJoe Rogan36:57

       Fucking-

    6. BCBryan Callen36:57

       He's got a thick neck. He's got a perm.

    7. JRJoe Rogan36:59

       Yeah.

    8. BCBryan Callen36:59

       He's, uh, he's, he's actually handsome. He's got a... He's wearing a jewel, he's wearing jewelry.

    9. JRJoe Rogan37:03

       Yeah. Very expensive watch.

    10. BCBryan Callen37:05

        He looks great.

    11. JRJoe Rogan37:05

        I looked at his watch. I was like, "That's pricey."

    12. BCBryan Callen37:07

        How much was it?

    13. JRJoe Rogan37:08

        I don't know.

    14. BCBryan Callen37:09

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan37:09

        And I'm not a real watch head.

    16. BCBryan Callen37:10

        He, he doesn't look at prices, sir.

    17. JRJoe Rogan37:11

        Oh, he doesn't have to.

    18. BCBryan Callen37:12

        No.

    19. JRJoe Rogan37:13

        No.

    20. BCBryan Callen37:13

        Everything's free.

    21. JRJoe Rogan37:14

        He's like, "I'll take one of those, please."

    22. BCBryan Callen37:15

        Yeah. I'll just-

    23. JRJoe Rogan37:16

        Smiles.

    24. BCBryan Callen37:16

        Yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan37:17

        "Thanks for your data." Smiles. (laughs)

    26. BCBryan Callen37:23

        (laughs) I'm in the-

    27. JRJoe Rogan37:24

        I did give though, I like him a lot.

    28. BCBryan Callen37:25

        I do too.

    29. JRJoe Rogan37:26

        I really do.

    30. BCBryan Callen37:26

        I don't know him, but-
11. 47:39 – 1:00:00

    Pool as a ‘most mental game’: straight pool records and mastery parallels

    1. JRJoe Rogan47:39

       And, uh, so we did Montreal together and then I was in Amsterdam Billiards. This is in my almost became a professional pool player stage. Like, if, if pool was a l- a real career, like golf-

    2. BCBryan Callen47:52

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan47:52

       ... I would've become a pool player.

    4. BCBryan Callen47:53

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan47:53

       I just loved it. I loved the pool halls-

    6. BCBryan Callen47:55

       You're lucky you didn't get into golf, dude.

    7. JRJoe Rogan47:56

       ... and the people. I'm so lucky.

    8. BCBryan Callen47:57

       You're a maniac.

    9. JRJoe Rogan47:57

       Terrified.

    10. BCBryan Callen47:58

        You're fucking crazy.

    11. JRJoe Rogan47:59

        But, um, I loved the, the pool players. I loved the, this, the hang. They were just so different.

    12. BCBryan Callen48:05

        Mm-hmm.

    13. JRJoe Rogan48:05

        They were outcasts and they were loose and fun and we, we said ridiculous shit to each other and everybody was laughing all the time. It was always fun. Um, and, so I was playing pool every night. And so, uh, I had a gig and, uh, before the gig, I think, or maybe after the gig, I went to Amsterdam. And, uh, Dom Irrera pulls up and he's got his own cue. And I was like, "Dom, you play pool?" And he's like, "Yeah, you play pool?" I go, "I fucking love pool." I go, "Let's play some pool." And he was good.

    14. BCBryan Callen48:35

        Wow. Wow.

    15. JRJoe Rogan48:36

        We- we were playing straight pool.... which is like the type of pool they played in the movie, The Hustler. It's very rarely played in America anymore, but it's an amazing game. You play with a stack of 15 balls, and you knock off one. The first break is like a safe break, and everybody moves balls around till someone makes a mistake and leaves an opening, and that guy smashes into the balls, and then you run as many balls as you can in order. So it's called 14-in-one.

    16. BCBryan Callen48:58

        So it doesn't matter if it's solids or strips?

    17. JRJoe Rogan49:00

        Doesn't matter. You leave 14 balls on the table, and the one ball, like, you leave a break ball, and then you rack the other 14. And so, you shoot the break ball in, the idea is to collide your cue ball into the stack and keep running. So let me give a shout-out to Jason Shaw, 'cause Jason Shaw, who's one of the best pool players on Earth, one of the greatest of all time, he just broke the world record in straight pool this week.

    18. BCBryan Callen49:25

        Wow.

    19. JRJoe Rogan49:25

        And I think, I think he ran 839 balls. Jason with a Y, J-A-Y.

    20. BCBryan Callen49:32

        So he, he made-

    21. JRJoe Rogan49:32

        Dude from Scotland.

    22. BCBryan Callen49:33

        ... 839?

    23. JRJoe Rogan49:34

        In a row.

    24. BCBryan Callen49:35

        Fuck.

    25. JRJoe Rogan49:35

        Yeah. He's trying to get to a thousand.

    26. BCBryan Callen49:38

        That's insane.

    27. JRJoe Rogan49:39

        So he got 832. 832. So the record before was set by Willie Mosconi in, like, the '60s and it was on an eight-foot table with big pockets. That was, like, 500-and-something balls. So he beat that. He ran 714 balls, so that was the previous world record he also owned, and then he just ran 832 balls. When I tell you, like, the concentration involved in doing that... 'Cause you're talking about hours of play. I mean, I don't know how many racks of 15 balls is 832. Someone do the math.

    28. BCBryan Callen50:14

        I think when you d-, I think when you get that good at anything, you learn about ev-, you learn everything about life. Like-

    29. JRJoe Rogan50:19

        Well, he's a wizard.

    30. BCBryan Callen50:20

        ... and about yourself.
12. 1:00:00 – 1:05:19

    Ranch dreams, community ‘cult’ jokes, and toxic freshwater fish

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

       I'm gonna buy a ranch.

    2. BCBryan Callen1:00:01

       Are you?

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

       Yeah.

    4. BCBryan Callen1:00:03

       Really?

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

       Yeah. Yeah. Uh, been talking about it for a while.

    6. BCBryan Callen1:00:07

       You gonna live on it?

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

       I'm just waiting for the m- maybe. But at the very least, we're gonna put the podcast on the ranch.

    8. BCBryan Callen1:00:11

       Really?

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

       Yeah.

    10. BCBryan Callen1:00:12

        'Cause I wanna have a ranch.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

        Big ranch.

    12. BCBryan Callen1:00:14

        I don't wanna do the work.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

        I also wanna have a big piece of land in case things go sideways-

    14. BCBryan Callen1:00:17

        Mm-hmm.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

        ... where, um, I can have, like, a whole community on a ranch. This is where I start my cult. I'm gonna have, just let people build on the ranch.

    16. BCBryan Callen1:00:25

        Hey.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

        Like, give them a few acres.

    18. BCBryan Callen1:00:26

        I got some kids. I wanna come by.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

        That's what I'm saying. Like, imagine-

    20. BCBryan Callen1:00:29

        You know, kids-

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

        ... if you have like a 2,000-acre property and on that 2,000-acre property there's, like, a liter- literal community of you and your friends.

    22. BCBryan Callen1:00:35

        Oh, yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

        And you can go hunt on the land.

    24. BCBryan Callen1:00:37

        Yeah. That'd be me.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

        And then there's water. There's a lake there. Yeah.

    26. BCBryan Callen1:00:39

        Count me in.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

        Yeah. Yeah.

    28. BCBryan Callen1:00:40

        I'll wear a tweed jacket. I'll smoke cigars. I'm not gonna do any of the work, but I'll- I'll supervise.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

        You don't have to do any of the work.

    30. BCBryan Callen1:00:45

        Boy...
13. 1:05:19 – 1:33:08

    Media trust collapse, audience capture, and ‘say you don’t know’ ethics

    1. BCBryan Callen1:05:19

       Well, the, the, the, the, the, the biggest thing that ... Every mainstream publication is in crisis and I think they've earned it, they've deserved it. The New York Times still makes money but primarily not 'cause of their articles that people read, it's primarily 'cause of their crosswords, their, their puzzles.

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:05:36

       Yeah.

    3. BCBryan Callen1:05:36

       But, you know-

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:05:36

       Wordle.

    5. BCBryan Callen1:05:37

       Yeah, but when you take things out of context and you have journalists that are 26 years old and have an ideological bent-

Episode duration: 2:46:20