Joe Rogan Experience #2265 - Kurt Metzger

1. 0:00 – 2:32

   SNL nostalgia, Cosby satire, and “predicting the future” debates

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. KMKurt Metzger0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   3. NANarrator0:11

      (instrumental music)

   4. KMKurt Metzger0:13

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Okay.

   6. KMKurt Metzger0:15

      This- (laughs) It's got-

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Meet the Cosby Kids. Oh my God-

   8. KMKurt Metzger0:21

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      ... look at the s- the thing says, "Meet the Cosby Kids."

   10. KMKurt Metzger0:26

       Who wrote this sketch? (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       I don't know, but what's funny is that back then that was ridiculous.

   12. KMKurt Metzger0:33

       Yes. A, I mean Phil Hartman's gone but, uh, all the rest of yous, thanks for speaking up. Uh, (laughs) hey, this reminds me of the sketch that we did.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Right.

   14. KMKurt Metzger0:42

       I hear- how come I just heard of this now?

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       How come I just heard of this now?

   16. KMKurt Metzger0:45

       Boy, SNL was funny.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Oh, SNL was great-

   18. KMKurt Metzger0:48

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       ... when Phil Hartman was on it. The early days of SNL were amazing.

   20. KMKurt Metzger0:52

       Yo, was Al Franken working there when they did that?

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       I don't know.

   22. KMKurt Metzger0:54

       'Cause I would think Senator Franken would've said something.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Oh, he's not a senator anymore. He got caught hugging a girl.

   24. KMKurt Metzger1:00

       Yeah, I would think after he got screwed over like that-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       (laughs)

   26. KMKurt Metzger1:02

       ... you wouldn't still do Blue MAGA, but I guess you would.

   27. NANarrator1:04

       (instrumental music)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Ah, he's just locked, locked in, you know?

   29. KMKurt Metzger1:08

       Hey man, I-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       That guy's great too. Al Franken's a great guy.
2. 2:32 – 4:46

   Ancient precedents for gender/ritual extremity: Cybele, Nero, and “nothing is new”

   1. KMKurt Metzger2:32

      Not in your department, but, I mean, you know how far back this should go? You know, you, you know in Rome, the Galleys of Cybele? You know what that is?

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:39

      No.

   3. KMKurt Metzger2:39

      When they were losing to Hannibal and they... The Priestess of Cybele? It's like C-Y- E-Y-B-E-L-E. It's, looks like Sibley but it's Cybele.

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:48

      Okay.

   5. KMKurt Metzger2:49

      And, uh, what, and the, and the myth behind it is insane. Like the myth story is this one god that was too horny that had both sets of organs.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:56

      (laughs)

   7. KMKurt Metzger2:56

      So they trick him. I love, I love, like, they trick him with wine and he, they tie his dick to the ground and he-

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:03

      (laughs)

   9. KMKurt Metzger3:04

      Come on, this somebody went to church on Sunday-

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:06

       (laughs)

   11. KMKurt Metzger3:06

       ... somebody went to a church and learned this.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:08

       Tie his dick to the ground like how they do a bull? Like through the nose?

   13. KMKurt Metzger3:10

       Yeah, then he ju-

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:11

       (laughs)

   15. KMKurt Metzger3:11

       Yes. Yes. Yes, exactly.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:13

       (laughs)

   17. KMKurt Metzger3:13

       And then he jumped up and it ripped his dick off.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:15

       Oh, Jesus.

   19. KMKurt Metzger3:16

       I am, I'm d- and, um, and then, so he be- he starts hanging out with his handsome nephew. And, and his nephew is faking like he's a great hunter 'cause his dickless uncle... He still has a pussy, the uncle.

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:27

       (laughs)

   21. KMKurt Metzger3:28

       But these gods sure sound like just LA people.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:31

       (laughs)

   23. KMKurt Metzger3:33

       (laughs) Why don't the gods just sound like LA people?

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:36

       This is it.

   25. KMKurt Metzger3:36

       Okay. So my favorite-

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:38

       Cybele?

   27. KMKurt Metzger3:39

       Yeah, the eunuch priest. So my favorite writing about it is, like, in, they, uh, when they celebrate, uh, Cybele, and then the s- the, the legend or the myth has more of, like, this wedding gets sabotaged by the jealous ripped off dick guy.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:52

       (laughs)

   29. KMKurt Metzger3:53

       And, and the women cut off their own breasts-

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:55

       Oh.
3. 4:46 – 5:17

   Postmodernism, simulation talk, and the “nothing means anything” slippery slope

   1. KMKurt Metzger4:46

      Remember when you had that guy, uh, Thaddeus whatever, the postmodern guy? I was just watching a clip.

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:50

      Oh, yeah. (laughs)

   3. KMKurt Metzger4:52

      And, and I, I happened to just rewatch it. And, um, and he basically told you, like, nothing's anything.

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:59

      Yeah.

   5. KMKurt Metzger4:59

      Like, that's why I think all that the simulation talk is, is all like... I look at everything as what's the marketing here to me. And a lot of it's like, "Nothing means anything, so, you know, like, it's w- what's the big deal if y- with kids you could do stuff with," right? It always gets to that eventually.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:14

      Well, most of those guys-

   7. KMKurt Metzger5:14

      Nothing's anything.

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:15

      ... who say that don't have kids.

   9. KMKurt Metzger5:16

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:17

       Yeah.

4. 5:17 – 10:38

   Meme-coin mania: Trump coin, pump-and-dumps, and gambling logic

   1. KMKurt Metzger5:17

      You absorb your... Dude, it is like middle-aged men, you know. By the way, uh, I'm heavily invested in Hawk Tuah Coin.

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:24

      (laughs)

   3. KMKurt Metzger5:26

      Let me talk about these idiots then.

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:27

      We, we should talk about that because I want to know what is, what, what is going on with the MAGA coin. Here's the thing that we were talking about last night.

   5. KMKurt Metzger5:35

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:35

      The MAGA coin was worth 36 billion dollars.

   7. KMKurt Metzger5:38

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:39

      So here- Trump coin. It's not the MAGA coin? No, it's the Trump coin. Just Trump. Okay, Trump coin. So the Trump coin, I'm calling it the MAGA coin, sorry. The Trump coin's worth 36 billion dollars. What that means is 36,000 people-

   9. KMKurt Metzger5:54

      Mm-hmm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:57

       ... put a million dollars in.

   11. KMKurt Metzger5:59

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:59

       That doesn't make sense. So that's 36,000 million. That's what 36 billion is.

   13. KMKurt Metzger6:06

       ... I, I believe you.

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:07

       Right?

   15. KMKurt Metzger6:07

       I'm not good at math.

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:07

       Isn't that right? That's right.

   17. KMKurt Metzger6:09

       That's why. I know Hawk Tuah is going to the moon.

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:10

       That sounds insane.

   19. KMKurt Metzger6:12

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:12

       That you could get 36,000 people willing-

   21. KMKurt Metzger6:15

       Yeah, right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:15

       Let's say it's way more people, way less money they contribute. It still seems insane if you're using real money.

   23. KMKurt Metzger6:22

       You never been to a casino or something?

   24. JRJoe Rogan6:23

       I, but that, that's the point. We talked about this.

   25. KMKurt Metzger6:25

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan6:25

       You and I talked about this. It is essentially gambling. Yeah. It's degenerate gamblers is how the people that make the coins talk about the people. Right. But the argument is that Trump is ripping off his fans with this Trump coin. But my question is-

   27. KMKurt Metzger6:36

       Maybe-

   28. JRJoe Rogan6:36

       ... like how, how is he ripping off his fans? It's basically like DraftKings. (laughs) Like, what are you doing?

   29. KMKurt Metzger6:44

       So, so it's a casino and the thing is-

   30. JRJoe Rogan6:46

       Right.
5. 10:38 – 14:26

   Campaign cash as a “human pump-and-dump”: Kamala spending, fundraising, and NGOs

   1. KMKurt Metzger10:38

      Dude, I told you, I think that's what Kamala was because they all knew she wouldn't win. And they, they ran a great campaign. They keep saying that hypnotic phrase is it, well, great in that they knew she wouldn't win. They all didn't like her and they all cashed in. They go, "Okay."

   2. JRJoe Rogan10:50

      They did cash in. They didn't just cash in.

   3. KMKurt Metzger10:52

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan10:52

      But a lot of those special interest groups cashed in.

   5. KMKurt Metzger10:54

      She's a human Hawk Tuah pump and dump.

   6. JRJoe Rogan10:56

      Right.

   7. KMKurt Metzger10:56

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan10:56

      Because, uh, what was the final tally for the amount of money they spent? At first they were saying it was $1 billion.

   9. KMKurt Metzger11:02

      $1 billion.

   10. JRJoe Rogan11:02

       But it's more. I think now they've got it at 1.5 billion.

   11. GAGuest's in-studio assistant11:07

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan11:08

       Yeah.

   13. KMKurt Metzger11:09

       It's like the Tim and Eric billion dollar movie. And I'll bet Tim and Eric voted for it.

   14. JRJoe Rogan11:13

       (laughs)

   15. GAGuest's in-studio assistant11:14

       (laughs)

   16. KMKurt Metzger11:14

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:14

       They definitely voted for it.

   18. KMKurt Metzger11:15

       Smart.

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:16

       It's important when you're in Hollywood to vote right.

   20. KMKurt Metzger11:19

       Uh-

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:19

       If you wanna get ahead in your career, you have to vote right. You have to vote correctly.

   22. KMKurt Metzger11:21

       Well, if you really want to get ahead, you should do something f- dirty on tape with another scummy motherfucker that you can hold over each other. You know, it's how our government works.

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:30

       Wow. That's what I heard.

   24. KMKurt Metzger11:30

       America's national bird should be gay Black male.

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:35

       (laughs)

   26. GAGuest's in-studio assistant11:36

       (laughs)

   27. KMKurt Metzger11:37

       Okay. Do you know what the eye in the pyramid is? It's somebody peeping through a hole and watching you-

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:42

       There it is. How Kamala Harris burned through 1.5 billion in 15 weeks.

   29. KMKurt Metzger11:47

       So they, they, so she's the Hawk Tuah of this. They're dumping it all on her, even though it was probably Howie Mandel's son-in-law that did it.

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:53

       She's pressed for more cash since the election, which is crazy. She's asking for cash still.
6. 14:26 – 24:58

   Gene-editing, engineered intelligence, and mistrust of “playing God”

   1. KMKurt Metzger14:26

      That's the new future. So I, I... When you told me that China thing, that they were doing some weird intelligence-raising experiment. What'd you tell me about?

   2. JRJoe Rogan14:34

      Yes. Yeah, they did a... Well, they said that they were trying to take these babies and make them immune to HIV, but what they were really doing was making their propensity for intelligence much higher.

   3. KMKurt Metzger14:46

      So you think... See, I, yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan14:48

      And then the guy, the guy got arrested for doing it and went to jail-

   5. KMKurt Metzger14:50

      Mm-hmm, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan14:50

      ... and then he got out. But he was like this... Like, which obviously they wanted him to do it. Like, the whole thing is, like, escapism.

   7. KMKurt Metzger14:54

      Yeah. Well, you gotta compete or America's gonna hand you your ass.

   8. JRJoe Rogan14:56

      Yeah.

   9. KMKurt Metzger14:56

      I'm sure they got the same story here, here.

   10. JRJoe Rogan14:58

       But they're f-

   11. KMKurt Metzger14:59

       China's gonna hand us our ass.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:00

       They're literally developing geniuses from the womb on purpose.

   13. KMKurt Metzger15:04

       Hey, hey, so are we. Real weird geniuses.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:06

       But here's the question: Why wouldn't you do that? If you found out that there was a thing that you could do to kids-

   15. KMKurt Metzger15:10

       That doctor mutilating the children?

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:12

       No, no. Yeah.

   17. KMKurt Metzger15:12

       These kids have been mutilated.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:14

       Well, sure, but if it's something just so simple as it just elevates your intellect, if there's a gene expression that they can turn on or off and this thing that they can do when the child is in the womb can make the child 25% more intelligent...

   19. KMKurt Metzger15:27

       Right, but they're gonna be autistic.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       Are you sure?

   21. KMKurt Metzger15:30

       Well, have you seen the telepathy tapes, which everyone tells me about?

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's not int-... Those are non-verbal people. Like-

   23. KMKurt Metzger15:36

       Well, you turn the crank as to whatever.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       You know, but how, how-

   25. KMKurt Metzger15:38

       It's the right blend of chemicals.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       But how do we know? We don't know that these people are autistic. They might just be g- just genius and might not have a side effect.

   27. KMKurt Metzger15:45

       Wait, wait, wait, wait.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Like, there are people that are geniuses.

   29. KMKurt Metzger15:47

       The Chinese ones or the ones-

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       The Chinese ones, where they manipulated the genes. The things is, like, there's, they're-
7. 24:58 – 29:35

   Blackmail networks, Roy Cohn, and the presidency as a managed role

   1. KMKurt Metzger24:58

      Um, Trump's friend that, that notorious lawyer. Roy Cohn.

   2. NANarrator25:01

      Okay.

   3. KMKurt Metzger25:02

      Roy Cohn.

   4. JRJoe Rogan25:03

      I don't know who he is.

   5. KMKurt Metzger25:04

      You've never heard of Roy Cohn yesterday?

   6. JRJoe Rogan25:05

      I've heard the name, but I don't know who he is. Like, if you ask me, like, "What does Roy Cohn do?"

   7. KMKurt Metzger25:08

      Okay. So-

   8. JRJoe Rogan25:09

      ... I wouldn't be able to tell you.

   9. KMKurt Metzger25:09

      ... my guess is Roy Cohn told Trump where all the bodies are buried. And, and I really got put onto this by Dark Journalist, I'm telling you, the guy's great. Uh, uh, Daniel List, his name is, 'cause he's- he just, just the facts. He just gets the facts.

   10. JRJoe Rogan25:22

       Just the facts, ma'am.

   11. KMKurt Metzger25:23

       Yeah. And so Roy Cohn, that whole, the whole network that the whole pyramid scheme works on, which is blackmail, okay? Roy Cohn's part of that. And Trump, you'll notice, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs. You know about who he sle- Yeah, this guy. So you know who Trump slept with alread- Like, I don't care that he paid that chick to shut up. Oh, why would you even try to prosecute for that, like I give a shit?

   12. JRJoe Rogan25:41

       (laughs)

   13. KMKurt Metzger25:41

       You know this shit, all these other mother f- You know, the-

   14. JRJoe Rogan25:43

       How creepy does he look?

   15. KMKurt Metzger25:44

       He wa- Okay, he was a creep, but-

   16. JRJoe Rogan25:46

       He looks creepy.

   17. KMKurt Metzger25:47

       He to- He, so Trump was going in. They wanted Trump to run 'cause then you'd have to vote Hillary. You remember this, the, the story.

   18. JRJoe Rogan25:54

       Right, right.

   19. KMKurt Metzger25:55

       Okay? And then Trump won, and it's like, uh, you know, in Pulp Fiction when, when, uh, Bruce Willis wins and he shouldn't have. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan26:01

       Right, right. (clears throat)

   21. KMKurt Metzger26:02

       And, uh, because you can't have a guy that you don't have blackmail on.

   22. JRJoe Rogan26:05

       Right.

   23. KMKurt Metzger26:05

       I think the president, if the president doesn't have the highest security clearance, and he doesn't. The president does not. He's supposed to, I thought, but he doesn't. And the excuse is, "Well, he's only there 48 years." Right?

   24. JRJoe Rogan26:16

       Right.

   25. KMKurt Metzger26:17

       So already now you've told me there's a deep state with that. Just with that.

   26. JRJoe Rogan26:20

       Right, right, right.

   27. KMKurt Metzger26:21

       And now you're telling me that the president has not meant anything for quite some time because I d- So there's secrets we don't get to know or vote for, and that's just how it is. And I, you saw Men in Black, just trust 'em.

   28. JRJoe Rogan26:32

       Listen-

   29. KMKurt Metzger26:32

       They got Will Smith on the team.

   30. JRJoe Rogan26:33

       Hey, hey, I don't like the way you're talking.
8. 29:35 – 44:59

   Forgiveness vs accountability, JFK files, MKUltra, and Bay of Pigs blowback theory

   1. KMKurt Metzger29:35

      There's no forgiveness, dude. So, so look, that's a, that's ... Here's the thing, like, you know, like Russell Brand's into Jesus ... You know, I don't know what's, like, true or not, but I do know the way the system works is, uh, a perpetrator/victim forever, and that's the pyramid. And so you're gonna have to forgive people. I don't wanna forgive none of them people at all. So, uh, it will take a miracle from Jesus (laughs) to make me feel like that 100%.

   2. JRJoe Rogan29:59

      I don't mind forgiving people. I just don't think that they should be in the same positions. If they were using their power to manipulate people and then something comes out about them that shows that-

   3. KMKurt Metzger30:08

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      ... this is why they were doing it, that person shouldn't be allowed to continue doing it and we forgive them. They should find a new thing to do.

   5. KMKurt Metzger30:15

      Yeah, and I just think it's a good idea-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:15

      Because they shouldn't be in control of the rest of the country's life.

   7. KMKurt Metzger30:20

      Dude, when those files come out, the JFK ones, 'cause, you know, what, how much is gonna come out? They don't li- The reason they overclassify, I think, is you don't need that much threads to pull to pull it apart, and much smarter people than me just do that all the time, and you can still find them. And so when these new files come out and s- You know, I'll, here's what I'll bet. It'll be a lot of s- shit to go through.... a lot.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:42

      Oh, yeah.

   9. KMKurt Metzger30:43

      Um, I always think of what, that thing you told me of the Judge Napolitano about if you saw what I saw you wouldn't release it either.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       Yeah. Yeah.

   11. KMKurt Metzger30:50

       Now, I think I know what that means, but I don't obviously.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       What do you think it means?

   13. KMKurt Metzger30:54

       Oh, I think it's Monarch, dude. I think it's part of Mo-... I hope it is. I hope they're gonna get that off their chest, that MKUltra never ended. I hope we're gonna get that off our chest. Because tha- all UFO shit is directly with that and I don't know which parts are the mind control shit and which parts are some kind of entity. So and it's on purpose that you're not supposed to connect it, but they're very connected. S-

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:17

       Well, I told you my friend Evan Hafers' theory about JFK.

   15. KMKurt Metzger31:20

       What is that?

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       That when, um... So here's what happened. They don't clue JFK in on the Bay of Pigs until very late in the operation and air support is critical for the survivors of the guys on the ground.

   17. KMKurt Metzger31:32

       Oh, Cubans. Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       So he pull-... Not the Cubans. Americans.

   19. KMKurt Metzger31:36

       Oh.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:36

       American special ops guys. So they send in the fucking most ultra-violent, best killers we have, but they have to have air support. Well, he pulls, JFK pulls air support, and those guys get fucked, and a lot of guys died that shouldn't have died. So those guys come back and they are fucking furious and those are the type of people that you would hire to kill people.

   21. KMKurt Metzger31:55

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:55

       Because they kill people already. So if you've got those guys and you've got this president that the entire Special Forces division that went onto that island wants dead.

   23. KMKurt Metzger32:05

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan32:05

       So you have thousands or I don't know how many people deployed in that-

   25. KMKurt Metzger32:08

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:09

       ... particular operation, but you've got, let's say you've got a thousand hardcore killers that want this president dead because their buddies got blown up unnecessarily.

   27. KMKurt Metzger32:18

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:19

       Totally makes sense.

   29. KMKurt Metzger32:20

       Yeah. Um, I have a question 'cause, uh, they are killers. Um, how come they tried to kill Fidel Castro 600 fucking times which is kind of high, didn't get that done, only tried to kill Kennedy once, got that done?

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:33

       Well, Kennedy was in a fucking convertible in Dallas and Fidel Castro was well-aware-
9. 44:59 – 1:01:21

   Media manipulation: “do your own research,” tinfoil hat origins, and propaganda legalization

   1. KMKurt Metzger44:59

      "Oh, we go... Don't worry, we changed it in the dictionary." They did do that. Uh, and by the way, don't... "Do your own research," I'm never letting that go. I read that in Forbes, "You must never-"

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:11

      Don't do your own research.

   3. KMKurt Metzger45:11

      ... n- "You must never do your own research." "Can, ooh, can I finish this, uh, issue of Forbes at least? Do I have to put it down right now?" Wh- Why would you say that?

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:21

      Well, what's crazy about them saying that is all the things they were saying that were conspiracy theories, 'cause this is all in regards... The "do your own research" stuff was all in regards to COVID-19. All the things-

   5. KMKurt Metzger45:33

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:33

      ... that people were saying, that they were calling a conspiracy theory, turned out to be true.

   7. KMKurt Metzger45:37

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:37

      Every single one of them, but yet no correction. But yet they still wanna be the people that give you the news.

   9. KMKurt Metzger45:43

      Hey, you know where the term tinfoil hat came from, right?

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       I don't remember.

   11. KMKurt Metzger45:47

       Okay. Ctrl-Alt-History. I can't recommend this channel enough. Lot of, like, recent history, but tinfoil hat, a guy named Leonard Kiles, K-I-L-E-S. He had patents on, uh, like, Polaroid camera shit, okay? He was a smart guy. He thought his girlfriend was cheating on him and he would fly into rages and was seeing a therapist. Bad luck for him this therapist was a CIA guy. Yeah, Delgado.

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       (laughs)

   13. KMKurt Metzger46:10

       Those old things with the bull where it doesn't charge because they're putting... It's a chip. You know, the brain chip has been invented a long time ag- ago. So, they put this in this guy's head without telling him, a brain chip, and then, uh, it- it turned him into... I- I mean, it just fucked him up, okay? And he ended up in a booby hatch and the pain from... You know, 'cause microwaves have to be transmitted to his chip. So the pain of that in his brain made him put metal trash cans on his... 'Cause he's smart. He knew science things and what they were using even though he was in pain. And then they started letting him use aluminum foil around his fucking head. And that's... So we get the term tinfoil hat from a guy the CIA mutilated and fucked up. And now we say it as a joke. Do you see how magic works? Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:55

       What was the- the implant they put in on him?

   15. KMKurt Metzger46:58

       Uh, what was it called? The one they made in the '90s was called SoulCatcher, which is ominous.

   16. JRJoe Rogan47:03

       Jesus Christ.

   17. KMKurt Metzger47:04

       Yeah, SoulCatcher.

   18. JRJoe Rogan47:05

       That's what they called it?

   19. KMKurt Metzger47:05

       I sent you that. That was on, uh, CNET. I- I texted it to you, dude.

   20. JRJoe Rogan47:08

       (laughs)

   21. KMKurt Metzger47:09

       It's, uh, British Telecom.

   22. JRJoe Rogan47:10

       It probably got lost in that fucking scroll that you texted me.

   23. KMKurt Metzger47:12

       Yo, hey, if you're worried about the new Elon chip, I got great news, guys. They don't need a chip to do their thing no more. They did it. That... Why do you think people go, "Hey, what is this woke mind virus?" Well, it's a lot like the COVID virus, a thing a guy made.

   24. JRJoe Rogan47:26

       (laughs)

   25. KMKurt Metzger47:27

       Why would you even work on something like that unless you were gonna deploy it? L- the CIA verifies, oh, they did think it was a leak. Well, guess what? It wasn't a leak. I bet you it was on... Well, and I think it was on purpose, 'cause I don't know why you're fucking around with that if it ain't on purpose.

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:41

       But why are you doing this gain-of-function research if you're not trying to find a cure? 'Cause they clearly didn't have a cure.

   27. KMKurt Metzger47:47

       A cure for a disease that doesn't exist yet? That's suspicious. Hey-

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:51

       (laughs)

   29. KMKurt Metzger47:51

       ... how come all the new viruses that come out, the explanation, the not racist and good explanation that you shouldn't research, 'cause that's how science works obviously, n- by not doing research, uh, they all come 'cause some guy fucked an animal? All of 'em?

   30. JRJoe Rogan48:06

       (laughs)
10. 1:01:21 – 1:07:32

    Government experiments on civilians: St. Louis, Operation Sea-Spray, and biowarfare logic

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:01:21

       San Francisco was pneumonia.... St. Louis, Dora Spates was a baby when her father died inexplicably. She has watched her siblings die of cancer. She survived cervical cancer. Learned the arm- army conducted secret chemical testing in her impoverished St. Louis neighborhood in the height of the Cold War. She wonders if her own government is to blame. In the mid-1950s and again a decade later, the army used motorized blowers atop a low-income housing high-rise at schools and from the back of station wagons to send a potentially dangerous compound into the already hazy air in predominantly Black areas of St. Louis. Local officials will, were told at the time that the government was testing a smokescreen that could shield St. Louis from aerial observation in case the Russians attacked. But in 1994, the government said the tests were part of a biological weapons program and St. Louis was chosen because it bore some resemblances to Russian cities that the US might attack. The material being sprayed was zinc cadmium sulfide.

    2. KMKurt Metzger1:02:16

       Cadmium, that's what it was. I was wrong, yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:02:18

       Cadmium sulfide, a fine fluorescent powder.

    4. KMKurt Metzger1:02:21

       Yeah. Oh, yeah, the R- Russians have Black neighborhoods, I guess.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:02:24

       The new research raising greater concern about the implications of those tests, St. Louis Community College Burmeck sociology professor Lisa Marino-Taylor's research has raised the possibility that the army performed radiation testing by mixing radioactive particles with the zinc cadmium sulfide, although she concedes there is no direct proof.

    6. KMKurt Metzger1:02:41

       Fucking jerk-off motion.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:02:44

       Right. But w- if she's saying this, she must have some reasoning.

    8. KMKurt Metzger1:02:47

       Do you have weed?

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:02:48

       Her ... Yeah. But her report, uh, released last month was troubling enough that both US senators from Missouri wrote to Army Secretary John McHugh demanding answers. Wow.

    10. KMKurt Metzger1:03:00

        Oh, yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:03:00

        So this, the, the San Francisco one was a disease thing. Find that, Jamie. The San Francisco one, they were, uh, they were spraying pneumonia into the clouds.

    12. KMKurt Metzger1:03:13

        Oh, good.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:03:14

        Yeah.

    14. KMKurt Metzger1:03:15

        Well, I'm sure they've stopped doing things like that.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:03:17

        Yeah. What it, what it was the San Francisco one. The, I think they, they had the fog coming in and they wanted to see if they could distribute a disease that way, and so they spread a disease aerially to see how many people were infected.

    16. KMKurt Metzger1:03:32

        How many was it?

    17. NANarrator1:03:33

        (laughs)

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:03:33

        I don't know. What year was that? What year was it that they did that? I wanna say that was the '80s.

    19. NANarrator1:03:39

        What should I say there was... 'Cause I type, I can't look up MKUltra. It's gotta be something else but I have no idea, so.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:03:42

        No, no, no. Uh, San Francisco experimented with diseases on its population. Try that. What do you got?

    21. NANarrator1:03:54

        Uh, after spraying in 1950 or a few years ago.

    22. KMKurt Metzger1:03:58

        I mean, it, they just did it to you a couple years ago. (laughs)

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:04:03

        1950, it wasn't the '80s. Okay, United States, after secretly spraying San Francisco with SM ... What is SM? Uh, in 1950, 11 patients at a ci- city hospital condu- contracted, uh, serratia infections, one of whom died. The army deemed the outbreak a coincidence and continued to use SM as a simulant in subsequent open-air tests.

    24. KMKurt Metzger1:04:28

        Operation Sea-Spray. (laughs)

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:04:30

        That's it, Operation Sea-Spray.

    26. KMKurt Metzger1:04:32

        That's ... (laughs)

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:04:35

        Okay, so a bacteria. So US Navy in 1950, US Navy's secret biological warfare experiment in which Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glob- globigil, globigii, globigii bacteria were sprayed over the San Francisco Bay area in California in order to determine how vulnerable a city like San Francisco may be to a bioweapon attack, killing at least one American and sickening at least 10 more. Imagine, "Let's find out how ab- we could be vulnerable to a bioweapon on our citizens, and to protect them, we will use a bioweapon on our citizens."

    28. KMKurt Metzger1:05:13

        Yeah, that's, um-

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:05:14

        "And we will kill people."

    30. KMKurt Metzger1:05:15

        Yeah. Well, so that's the attitude is, "You're cattle." That's the attitude.

Episode duration: 2:48:26