Joe Rogan Experience #2266 - Brian Simpson

1. 0:00 – 0:28

   Opening banter: living under constant scrutiny

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. BSBrian Simpson0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. NANarrator0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   4. BSBrian Simpson0:09

      (instrumental music) Little things you say. L- like, imagine having to be that measured in, in everything you say all the time. Just stick to the talking points.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Bro, that's my whole life.

   6. BSBrian Simpson0:22

      Ugh. God, that's stressful.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      Yeah, it's super stressful, especially if you're a little intoxicated.

   8. BSBrian Simpson0:28

      (laughs)

2. 0:28 – 1:19

   Biden’s gaffes and the limits of public forgiveness

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      You know, you get a couple of whiskeys in you, and you start talking shit. You gotta (laughs) be responsible for every word that comes out of your mouth, even if it's stupid. But, you know, I think people get it. They get what, that people are human beings and they can stumble. Like people w- they forgave a lot of Biden stumbles until they were like, "What the fuck?" You know, a lot of people like in 2020 were like, "There's no way. There's no way he's gonna do it." He was too old to run when it was 2016.

   2. BSBrian Simpson0:53

      Yeah, but you know, he, he's kind of always been known for the gaffes, like ev- 'cause I remember when (clears throat) when Obama was, picked him, that was like the number one concern was like, "Oh, but he be sometimes-"

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:03

      Right.

   4. BSBrian Simpson1:03

      "He be saying shit."

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:04

      Didn't Obama always, he was famous and quoted as, "Joe, don't worry."

   6. BSBrian Simpson1:07

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:07

      "Joe will find a way to fuck things up." (laughs)

   8. BSBrian Simpson1:10

      (laughs) Oh, I never heard that bit.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:11

      There's supposedly, well, it's hard to know what the quote was, but supposedly-

   10. BSBrian Simpson1:16

       But he got, but he got out, he got out of all of it. I mean, i-

3. 1:19 – 2:11

   “Who’s really running things?” Cabinet power and executive orders

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:19

      Yeah. Well, that's because the machine was behind him, right? So he gets into office, and you saw the, the, the Mike Johnson guy, the Speaker of the House? He said that he had talked to him... A- it took a year to have a meeting, and he finally had this meeting with him, and he just want- wanted to talk to him about something, and he said, "Why did you sign this executive order?" And it had something to do with liquid natural gas, and he said, "I didn't sign that." He said, "Yes, you did, sir. You signed it. Can we get it?" And so he has the secretary print it up, he brings it in. He'd never read it, so he was just signing executive orders that he didn't even know. He didn't know what it was about. He thought it was about research, and it was about shutting it down. And so, it, that to me showed there's a bunch of people behind him that want to do things, and they think it's for the best interests of the country, and they're all acting as a big group that's like the puppeteer of the president. And that's not how it's supposed to be. (laughs) It's not supposed to be that way.

   2. BSBrian Simpson2:09

      But isn't it like that with every president?

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:10

      I don't know-

   4. BSBrian Simpson2:11

      I feel like-

4. 2:11 – 2:59

   Immigration enforcement and why administrations act differently

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:11

      ... because I think when a president brings in a new cabinet, and the new cabinet starts doing different things, then you see what's happening right now, right? So they've already found thousands of criminals that had snuck in here and had committed multiple crimes while they were here, and the Biden administration had left them here, and they allowed them to stay in these sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. And Trump's just yanking them out and flying them back to Colombia, and flying them back to Mexico, and flying them back to wherever they're from. Get the fuck out of here.

   2. BSBrian Simpson2:40

      No, but I, uh-

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:40

      And exporting them in planes. The Biden administration could have done this too.

   4. BSBrian Simpson2:44

      Yeah, but I think, I think they, every president that get in there, they do, they do little shit different than the other side.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:51

      Mm-hmm.

   6. BSBrian Simpson2:52

      (clears throat) But at the end of the day, the big major shit that would help out the average people, that shit, it always just falls short a couple votes.

5. 2:59 – 5:05

   Replacing income tax with tariffs: manufacturing, prices, and feasibility

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:59

      Trump is talking about getting rid of income tax and replacing it with tariffs. I asked him about that on the podcast.

   2. BSBrian Simpson3:07

      What?

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:07

      I thought he was joking around. Yeah, exactly. He was saying that it would be better for the economy, we'd have way more money if instead of you paying tax, these companies should be paying tax. Like, why are they making such a killing off the American people?

   4. BSBrian Simpson3:22

      But the companies would just charge us bigger prices, wouldn't they?

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:25

      Well, here's the thing, could they if we had American manufacturing that can make the same products? No. So the whole like, the whole reason why-

   6. BSBrian Simpson3:34

      But you can't make the same products for the same price.

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:35

      But if you have other countries charge tariffs, and I think we've charged tariffs in the past, and it's a, it's an interesting thing. It's like you make a trade agreement. It's essentially a trade agreement, and his position has always been that one side of the trade agreement was unbalanced, and America does a stupid job at negotiating its trade agreements. So he wants tariffs and everything. That's what he, that's what he threatened the guy from Colombia with. He said, 'cause they didn't want to take the prisoners. The flights were coming over and he didn't want to give them approval to land, and he said, "We're gonna tax you. We're gonna tariff you 25%, and then like in a week, we're gonna jack it up to 50%." And this guy wrote like a poem to Trump. It was the most ridiculous thing ever. The guy's a wild dude.

   8. BSBrian Simpson4:15

      I mean, that's the thing is like if you're bringing the tariffs, you would have to make them so high that, that the American goods were cheaper by comparison.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:21

      Well, you'd have to really ramp up American manufacturing in a lot of places. Like, we don't make phones. That's one of the craziest things about America.

   10. BSBrian Simpson4:30

       We don't make, we don't make anything.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:32

       We can't make a phone. We can't even make a phone.

   12. BSBrian Simpson4:33

       We make mistakes.

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:34

       Well, I mean, maybe we could make a phone. Doesn't there one phone that is made in America? Is there one phone that's manufactured here? I think there is.

   14. BSBrian Simpson4:42

       I mean, even if it's assembled here?

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:44

       Is it the Nothing Phone?

   16. NANarrator4:46

       I would say that's American.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:46

       Is that it?

   18. NANarrator4:47

       I think it might be assembled here. I don't think... I think they still have to get something from somewhere.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:49

       They still have to get shit from China.

   20. BSBrian Simpson4:51

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:51

       They have to get shit from Taiwan.

   22. BSBrian Simpson4:53

       The key pieces.

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:53

       They have to get shit from India. Yeah. Everybody gets their shit from somewhere.

   24. BSBrian Simpson4:57

       Yeah. I mean, like I said, the problem with American manufacturing is you can't do it for cheap because you have to pay people-

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       That, no, our problem is-

   26. BSBrian Simpson5:05

       ... enough to live on.

6. 5:05 – 6:33

   Consumer upgrade culture, durable tech, and national security

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:05

      ... first of all, we're addicted to buying new shit all the time. I have a, I have a bunch of phone lines and one of my phone lines I have an iPhone 11. It's like five years old. I don't notice when I'm using it. Like long as it still works.

   2. BSBrian Simpson5:22

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:22

      You don't notice on a normal experience. What do I do with my phone? I'm not fucking making complex video rendering, you know? What am I doing? I'm watching YouTube videos, I'm text messaging people. You don't notice, right? But we're force-fed this idea that you're supposed to get a new one every year. Like it's one of the weirdest things. You get a new TV every year? You get a new computer every year? Why the fuck do you get a new phone every year? But every year they keep pushing us to get a new phone. If you make a phone that's American made more durable and lasts more than a year, it would be worth a premium, and I wouldn't have to feel bad about like slaves in China making it.

   4. BSBrian Simpson5:59

      Like he makes it so the only phones... They need to bring back the Nokia phones. Remember those brick phones?

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:04

      ... yes. Well, don't do that. They would just be indestructible. Make it dope. Make it a-

   6. BSBrian Simpson6:07

      Just make-

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:07

      ... dope phone. But, you know.

   8. BSBrian Simpson6:09

      (sighs) I don't know, man. I don't think, I think we've, I think those days are long gone.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:15

      The days of American manufacturing?

   10. BSBrian Simpson6:16

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:16

       Well, I think with incentives, with government incentives, and people understanding that this competition that we're having is all, um, technologically based, and if all of our technology is getting made in another country, that's essentially a, a national security issue.

7. 6:33 – 8:11

   Cynicism vs hope—and the role of incentives and motivation

   1. BSBrian Simpson6:33

      See, you, you know, you know what I realize is like why... 'cause sometimes, you know, politics comes up in the green room, and I just... I, I always separate myself from the conversation because I realize what everybody has, regardless of what sides or issues they on (clears throat) is they, y'all have hope.

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:50

      (laughs) I'm cynical, I'm cynical than a motherfucker. I'll be like, "This shit was over, this shit been... " (laughs)

   3. BSBrian Simpson6:54

      Th- you know, it's like for, for me, I'm like, I see, I see the asteroid coming.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:58

      Yeah.

   5. BSBrian Simpson6:58

      And I'm like, "Ain't nothing we gonna be able to do about that."

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   7. BSBrian Simpson8:11

      That's right.

8. 8:11 – 10:12

   RFK Jr., public health, and why polarization breaks every initiative

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:11

      I don't know, man. I'm interested to see. Like, if, if Robert F. Kennedy Jr. gets, uh, gets approved, I'm interested to see.

   2. BSBrian Simpson8:18

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:18

      If they start removing pesticides and, uh, herbicides and all these things that are killing people, if people's health improves, if we remove things from the human diet, if just e- start educating people on the importance of diet and exercise, I would love to see that.

   4. BSBrian Simpson8:33

      Yeah, but you know the problem with that is, like, we live in a society where, like, none of that shit's gonna happen unless they make more money than what we already doing.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:39

      That's not necessarily true because you can motivate people. There's a real power in free motivation. And having a government that's, like, promoting health in that way would cause a bunch of people to take that step that they've been thinking about taking. So, a lot of times, motivation doesn't catch you flat. Motivation catches you looking for motivation, right? Like, you want to get your shit together. You're like, "Oh, well, I just fucking need to get to the gym. I just need some-" And then one day, the government, announces that we are going to turn the health of America around, and we are gonna promote a, a national fitness regime. We're gonna start bringing it to, to schools and kids to get people healthier. We're gonna bring in organic food and start feeding kids. When you feed them in public schools-

   6. BSBrian Simpson9:27

      Didn't Michelle Obama try to do-

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:27

      ... and you have free lunches.

   8. BSBrian Simpson9:28

      ... something like that?

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:29

      Yeah, she did. She got shut down immediately. (snaps fingers)

   10. BSBrian Simpson9:31

       Yeah, exactly. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:31

       They shut her right the fuck down.

   12. BSBrian Simpson9:33

       Yeah, they were like-

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:33

       They're like, "Sit down."

   14. BSBrian Simpson9:34

       ... "Nah, bitch. No, no, no, no. Fuck all that."

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:35

       "You're gonna fucking kill our profits."

   16. BSBrian Simpson9:37

       Healthy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:37

       "Fuck this healthy shit."

   18. BSBrian Simpson9:38

       'Cause the, 'cause that's the other thing. But, but what's different now than, than what was happening back then is we're so divided. If, if somebody in the government suggested anything was the best, the healthiest thing, at least half the country would be like, "I'm not fucking with it for that very reason."

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:53

       Yep. Yep.

   20. BSBrian Simpson9:53

       You know? It's like-

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:54

       You're so right.

   22. BSBrian Simpson9:55

       Yeah, it's like th- it's like they attached Obama to Obamacare even though it was, it was not a bad thing, right?

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:59

       Right.

   24. BSBrian Simpson9:59

       And if, like, if Trump was literally like, "Hey, every, every American, jumping jacks is the best exercise." People would be like-

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       Yeah.

   26. BSBrian Simpson10:05

       ... "Ain't doing no jumping jacks."

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:07

       Yeah.

   28. BSBrian Simpson10:07

       "That's your president's exercise." So it's like we so divided, nothing's gonna stick.

9. 10:12 – 18:58

   Healthcare as a profit game: AI denials, public rage, and the ‘fire department’ analogy

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:12

      I also think that the problem with, like, healthcare and a- all these things where people are getting paid, you're dealing with a bunch of different games that are being played inside a game that has a function.

   2. BSBrian Simpson10:28

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:28

      And that function is healthcare. Like, it provides healthcare in a kind of shifty, shitty way. But the, but the game it's playing is make the most money. That's the game it's playing. The ga- it's, it's playing a financial game.

   4. BSBrian Simpson10:44

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:44

      That's why it's coming up with reasons to deny people and it's using AI to figure out how to deny people. And it, they deny a large amount of claims. So it's-

   6. BSBrian Simpson10:53

      Mm. Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:53

      You gotta look at it like what it actually is.

   8. BSBrian Simpson10:55

      Which you know is funny.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:55

      It's not that it's all bad, but that th- there's a bunch of different games. Each person in that game is playing their own game. You have thousands of employees. You have thousands of people trying to corporate, climb the corporate ladder and make more money and get promotions and make more money for the company and impress the board. They want a fucking yacht, bro.

   10. BSBrian Simpson11:17

       I, well, I, I, I'm talking about how much we're divided, but it's weird how that's the one thing they couldn't divide people on. Like, I remember, like, after the, after the, after the TO got popped, like, on CNN and MSNBC-

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:29

       Yeah.

   12. BSBrian Simpson11:30

       ... and Fox, the, the narrative was the, like, "How sh- dare people be excited." 'Cause at first they tried to do what they do with everything, and they, they say, "Oh, these is, look at these liberals fucking laughing at them." And then, and then they realize like, oh, it's... The insurance industry has fucked over everybody.

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:44

       Everybody.

   14. BSBrian Simpson11:45

       They don't give a fuck who you voted for. They'll fucking... So-

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:47

       That might be the one. Healthcare might be the one thing that we can come to, like, a bipartisan agreement on-

   16. BSBrian Simpson11:52

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:52

       ... that health insurance and insurance companies in general, they, they're just captivated by what a corporation is. A corporation has a responsibility to its shareholders to make the most money. And they just... That's a problem with the whole structure of it, is that no matter what the business is, they find a way to make money more than they find a way to do the thing that they're supposed to be doing well as a service to people.

   18. BSBrian Simpson12:16

       If Trump actually, if Trump actually f- fixed healthcare...... he, he would go down as one of the greatest presidents. He would- he would be, like it would be, I think it would be a whole different earth. Like, if he actually did, like viable, real change to the healthcare system, that like made it work for everybody.

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:33

       Well, it used to be that there was no social media. So if you wanted to make a big change, the government could gaslight you on TV in these press conferences and bring out experts, and they could gaslight you and tell you what to do, and that was all the information you had.

   20. BSBrian Simpson12:49

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:49

       That doesn't work anymore. It doesn't work anymore. So this is one of the reasons why this is the best time ever to kind of revamp healthcare, and revamp like the way people think about what is healthy, what is healthy.

   22. BSBrian Simpson13:02

       But how you gonna revamp it in a way that still makes money?

   23. JRJoe Rogan13:04

       You... Well, it doesn't have to... First of all, first of all, you're gonna lose money. The country's gonna lose money. It's like who's gonna get the money? There's an exchange of money, right? So if a lot of people are sick all the time, and a lot of people are on Medicaid, and a lot of people are on health insurance, the country's gonna spend more money that's going to go to pharmaceutical drug companies. But it doesn't have to go there. We can't commit to giving it to them every year just because they've figured out a way to keep getting it. That's dumb. The right way to say it is, we have to look at the collective money of the country. Wouldn't it be way better if we spent way less on healthcare because people got healthier because they figured out there's no easy way to do it? You have to have diet and exercise. It's the most important foundation for any healthy human being. It doesn't matter what kind of exercise. It does- ah, it probably doesn't even ma- matter what kind of diet as long as you're like committed to eating healthy, real food. The whole thing is just diet and exercise and movement. That would fucking cure 70% of the problems we have in this country with healthcare, because people would be healthy. And so then you wouldn't be as susceptible to getting sick. You wouldn't be as susceptible to getting injured. There's a, a bunch of things that would probably likely stack up financially in our favor.

   24. BSBrian Simpson14:24

       But a- but it's-

   25. JRJoe Rogan14:24

       So that's how you make money out of it. You make-

   26. BSBrian Simpson14:26

       ... eventually you would need-"

   27. JRJoe Rogan14:26

       ... money out of it because everybody makes more money. You make more money if you're healthy. You make more money if you're active. If you're in, if you're in the bed all the time because you have back surgery constantly or if you've got this and that and the other, you got a lot of interruptions in your life. They're gonna hiccup your career, they're gonna hiccup your, whatever you're trying to accomplish in your life if you're- you're dealing with being sick all the time.

   28. BSBrian Simpson14:45

       So you think, you think if people were healthier, they would deny less people?

   29. JRJoe Rogan14:49

       I think if people were healthier, first of all, you would need way less healthcare. First, that's the number one thing. If people were fit and they took care of themselves, there's a giant part of, if you looked at all of the healthcare issues that we have in this country, there's a- a giant chunk of it that's connected to diet. It's connected to the standard American diet.

   30. BSBrian Simpson15:10

       Yeah.
10. 18:58 – 38:55

    Cybertruck bombing story: manifesto doubts, drones, and ‘memory-holed’ news

    1. JRJoe Rogan18:58

       No. You know what else nobody talks about? The guy who blew up the Cybertruck in front of Trump Tower? What happened to that guy?

    2. BSBrian Simpson19:05

       I don't even know what you're talking about.

    3. JRJoe Rogan19:06

       You don't know that story?

    4. BSBrian Simpson19:07

       Nah. See, I don't follow any of the pol- political stuff.

    5. JRJoe Rogan19:09

       Well, this isn't even political. This is a weird story. Um, it's a guy who was like... Now, has it been confirmed that that's him?

    6. NANarrator19:17

       I'm gonna look. I have to, um... I'll see.

    7. JRJoe Rogan19:18

       Let's pull up the story 'cause I don't, I don't wanna do it any misjustice. But this was, uh, after the election, correct? Yes. Definitely. It was real recent.

    8. NANarrator19:27

       It was on New Year's, New Year's Day.

    9. JRJoe Rogan19:28

       Okay. New Year's Day. That's, that's how crazy the news cycle is. Like you forget, you forget what day things happen. Like, "Was that a year ago?" "No, it was last week." "Oh, all right." There's like something constantly bombarding you all the time. So this dude-

    10. BSBrian Simpson19:41

        That dude?

    11. JRJoe Rogan19:42

        Yeah. What is the story behind him? He was a Special Forces guy, right? And he was in, I think he was in a television show with Tim Kennedy. They had like a Special Forces TV show where they did something.

    12. BSBrian Simpson19:55

        Oh.

    13. JRJoe Rogan19:55

        So this guy's like, you know, he's an operator. He's like a serious soldier.

    14. BSBrian Simpson19:58

        Why a Cybertruck?

    15. JRJoe Rogan20:00

        And he allegedly committed suicide, um, with a large handgun, a Desert Eagle. So-

    16. BSBrian Simpson20:09

        Oh, he re- he ransomed it. Okay.

    17. JRJoe Rogan20:11

        Large handgun, and blew up this thing. It's his self-inflicted gunshot wound. Well, it, the whole thing's weird, man. Nobody, n- n- nobody could imagine him doing this. Everybody's saying it doesn't make sense. Wh- why would he... This guy knew how to make bombs. Why would he make a shitty bomb like that, that doesn't even blow up the building? It just blows him up in the car? And why would he do it in a Cybertruck, which is like the most durable car you can buy? Like that whole thing... The Cybertruck, you saw that video where I tried to shoot an arrow through it?

    18. BSBrian Simpson20:48

        Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan20:48

        My arrow exploded. That thing's solid steel. So why would you blow yourself up in a solid... Why... You would get a convertible and fuck everybody up, right? You would... If you were gonna blow up yourself in a car, and you wanted to do the most damage, you'd have a car that you'd wanna blow apart. Those Teslas contain the entire explosion.

    20. BSBrian Simpson21:09

        Yeah. I mean, was it, did he leave some kind of manifesto?

    21. JRJoe Rogan21:13

        I don't know if he left a note. Did he leave a note?

    22. NANarrator21:15

        I think so. Yep. Uh, must have been-

    23. BSBrian Simpson21:17

        (laughs)

    24. JRJoe Rogan21:17

        They probably found it, like barely smoldering outside the car.

    25. BSBrian Simpson21:20

        Well, that's exactly... Remember?

    26. JRJoe Rogan21:20

        Look, it's like when, remember when they found the, the terrorist passports? The planes went into the fucking World Trade Center, blew up in front of everybody's face. Just a gigantic, enormous pile of fire. And yet this dude's passport just barely singed on the outside like a Bugs Bunny cartoon-

    27. BSBrian Simpson21:40

        (laughs)

    28. JRJoe Rogan21:40

        ... falls to the ground. (laughs)

    29. NANarrator21:41

        That was what the whole Sean Ryan thing was about, 'cause they sent the email, and then it was, "Did the guy write the email?"

    30. JRJoe Rogan21:47

        Right. That's right.
11. 38:55 – 50:30

    Aviation disaster and techno-conspiracies: remote control, sensors, and backdoors

    1. BSBrian Simpson38:55

       What thing?

    2. JRJoe Rogan38:55

       A Black Hawk helicopter collided with a American Airlines flight.

    3. BSBrian Simpson39:01

       Oh, man.

    4. JRJoe Rogan39:01

       Over DC. Yeah.

    5. BSBrian Simpson39:03

       Over DC?

    6. JRJoe Rogan39:03

       Over DC, yeah, and they, they plunged into the Potomac, and, uh, everybody's dead. And there's video of it. Uh, there's a fireball in the sky. The helicopter collides right with the plane, it explodes in the sky. Watch this. Boom. They explode and collide in the sky, and then this is the plane.

    7. BSBrian Simpson39:25

       Oh, man.

    8. JRJoe Rogan39:28

       It's crazy. And i- it's only... I mean, I don't, it's not for- there's nothing fortunate about it, but it's fortunate that it landed in the river and that it didn't land on apartment buildings, you know, and kill-

    9. BSBrian Simpson39:40

       (sighs)

    10. JRJoe Rogan39:40

        ... kill a bunch more people.

    11. BSBrian Simpson39:43

        Man.

    12. JRJoe Rogan39:43

        I don't even know how that happens. I've never heard of something like that happening. It's... And then where did the, uh, helicopter emanate from? Where did it come from, Jamie?

    13. BSBrian Simpson39:53

        Probably Andrews.

    14. JRJoe Rogan39:54

        'Cause it, this is a military helicopter.

    15. BSBrian Simpson39:57

        Andrews Air Force Base, I'm guessing.

    16. JRJoe Rogan40:02

        I don't understand how that's possible. I don't get it. Uh, but I don't know anything about flying.

    17. BSBrian Simpson40:07

        Man, you know what, honestly, man? It comes close to happening a, a lot.

    18. JRJoe Rogan40:10

        Fuck. That's so crazy that, uh, a military h- helicopter collides with a American Airlines jet. (exhales)

    19. BSBrian Simpson40:21

        Yeah, and this, and I, it, I d- I don't think it was some kind of malfunction. It probably was bad communication. Somebody got wrong information.

    20. JRJoe Rogan40:27

        Yeah, maybe, unless we find out that someone was on that jet, like someone on-

    21. BSBrian Simpson40:34

        Somebody important was on that jet?

    22. JRJoe Rogan40:35

        ... like gravity drive scientist.

    23. BSBrian Simpson40:37

        (laughs)

    24. JRJoe Rogan40:37

        (laughs) Some fucking, some fucking dude who's at the forefront-

    25. BSBrian Simpson40:40

        Just-

    26. JRJoe Rogan40:40

        ... of quantum computing-

    27. BSBrian Simpson40:41

        That's the, that was the move.

    28. JRJoe Rogan40:41

        ... a, and he's got a laptop with him-

    29. BSBrian Simpson40:43

        See-

    30. JRJoe Rogan40:43

        ... that he's trying to deliver to somebody in Saudi Arabia.
12. 50:30 – 1:12:09

    Remote shutdown cars, drug trafficking realities, and why ‘demand’ never stops

    1. JRJoe Rogan50:30

       Well, everybody's terrified about that, you know? And, um, there's cars right now that they could shut off, i- if there's a police chase. That's what OnStar does, right? So, like if you're in one of those Corvettes, I bet that Corvette has OnStar.

    2. BSBrian Simpson50:45

       Mm.

    3. JRJoe Rogan50:46

       Does that Corvette have OnStar? So the, what the, the way they sell you OnStar is they say, "Well, Brian, if someone steals your car, we can just shut it off." And you're like, "Oh, that would be good. I don't want anybody stealing my beautiful car." But the, the other side of that is, we could also just shut it off for other reasons.

    4. BSBrian Simpson51:03

       (laughs) Right, right.

    5. JRJoe Rogan51:04

       We could shut it off because we don't like you-

    6. BSBrian Simpson51:07

       (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan51:07

       ... and we just decided to shut your car off.

    8. BSBrian Simpson51:08

       But don't worry, it says right here that that's illegal. (laughs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan51:10

       You could have the wrong political opinion depending on who's in power. You know, you wanna give these people power because you don't want the other side to win, but then the problem is now you've established that the government, which is not always you, is going to have power, and they're gonna just be able to shut your fucking car off. Stolen C7 Corvette disabled remotely by police using OnStar. Yeah, they just shut them up. See?

    10. BSBrian Simpson51:30

        Mm-hmm.

    11. JRJoe Rogan51:31

        That's a, that's a happy moment. Look at that. The, the sad moment is you got a trunk load of meth-

    12. BSBrian Simpson51:36

        Mm.

    13. JRJoe Rogan51:36

        ... and you're making a run for it. (laughs) They just shut your car off.

    14. BSBrian Simpson51:39

        Right. But imagine (laughs) , imagine being a drug runner and, and getting all the features.

    15. JRJoe Rogan51:45

        Well, the drug runners always get caught going too fast. It's the dumbest fucking thing you'll ever hear.

    16. BSBrian Simpson51:52

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan51:52

        They always get busted going like 60 miles an hour over the speed limit. What does it say, Jamie?

    18. NANarrator51:57

        Mandatory.

    19. JRJoe Rogan51:58

        Mandatory.

    20. BSBrian Simpson51:58

        My favorite.

    21. JRJoe Rogan51:58

        Comes with mandatory OnStar subscription. There's no way around it.

    22. BSBrian Simpson52:03

        One of my favorite online lawyers-

    23. JRJoe Rogan52:04

        Whoa.

    24. BSBrian Simpson52:04

        ... he always goes, his name is Bruce Rivers, but he always saying, um, "Never commit a misdemeanor while you committing a felony."

    25. JRJoe Rogan52:13

        Ooh.

    26. BSBrian Simpson52:14

        You know? It's like you, if you moving cocaine, don't break the speed limit.

    27. JRJoe Rogan52:17

        Yeah.

    28. BSBrian Simpson52:17

        Put on your seatbelt.

    29. JRJoe Rogan52:18

        Yeah.

    30. BSBrian Simpson52:19

        Yeah.

Episode duration: 2:35:33