Joe Rogan Experience #2270 - Bridget Phetasy

Joe Rogan 0:00 (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

Bridget Phetasy 0:12 You're a whore.

Joe Rogan 0:13 All right. This is the thing is no one's happy with just being, like, a little successful. You get a little successful and then they wanna get more.

Bridget Phetasy 0:20 Is that everyone, though?

Joe Rogan 0:21 I don't know. Is that you, Bridget?

Bridget Phetasy 0:22 I'm- I'm- I'm a little successful.

Joe Rogan 0:25 That's it. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 0:26 And I'm happy.

Joe Rogan 0:27 Yeah. Uh, it's like... I don't know. You just gotta find why you're doing it. You- you don't wanna just be on a hamster wheel.

Bridget Phetasy 0:34 Well, I think it's easy to get lost in chasing more. You know?

Joe Rogan 0:38 Mm-hmm.

Bridget Phetasy 0:38 Like, I'm- I'm an addict, so it's very... I try to stay away from analytics and all that stuff, because I can become hyper-focused and obsessed with them.

Joe Rogan 0:48 Oh, right.

Bridget Phetasy 0:49 And one of the reasons that... After I did, um... Who was it? I was opening for Lando, and I- we would go out and just talk to the people after the show. And it was- it was a- a- they were like, "Oh my gosh, I love Walk & Talk," and, "I love Dumpster Fi-" And that was, like, such a good reminder that you get- like, chasing numbers, and it was like, "Oh, no. These are not just numbers, they're people."

Joe Rogan 1:12 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:12 Unless you're like buying bots. But I think it can be easy to just be- get on that hamster wheel and start being like, "We need more, we need more downloads. We need more." And-

Joe Rogan 1:21 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:22 ... more, more, more. And then you forget and I never wanna take the audience we have for granted.

Joe Rogan 1:28 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:29 You know? Like they're- they're amazing. They're- they've been with- some of these people have been with me for forever.

Joe Rogan 1:34 That's kind of the key to it all, right? Is always have... I mean, it sounds so corny because it's such a good new wellness way of looking at things. Have gratitude.

Bridget Phetasy 1:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:43 Always have gratitude. But gratitude is, like, very important. It's really important to- to be thankful for what you have.

Bridget Phetasy 1:49 Yeah. And it w- it was- it was one of the key things in getting sober. I think when I've dealt with, like, anxiety, depression, other things in my life, gratitude is- it is a powerful mechanism for sh- like, shifting your- your perspective because you can get into that feeling of, like, not being enough, not having enough, not-

Joe Rogan 2:11 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 2:11 ... it never being enough. And-

Joe Rogan 2:13 Well, Bryan Callen was telling me about his buddy who's a billionaire. His buddy's worth like three billion dollars, and he feels like he's poor-

Bridget Phetasy 2:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:20 ... because he's friends with people who have $100 billion.

Bridget Phetasy 2:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:23 Like, imagine.

Bridget Phetasy 2:24 No, I mean, this- when I was dating this very wealthy guy who is, like, probably half of a billionaire. Ha- you know, ha- like, five hundred millionaire. And we were in Saint-Tropez and he w- we- he felt poor.

Joe Rogan 2:39 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 2:40 (laughs) He... I remember being- I remember it so vividly.

Joe Rogan 2:43 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 2:43 I was in the shower and he- he loved me 'cause I was like this, like, poor backpacker that was, like, en- entertaining.

Joe Rogan 2:50 Bohemian. Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 2:51 Yeah. He's like, "Look at this entertaining..."

Joe Rogan 2:52 "She's an artist."

Bridget Phetasy 2:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:54 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 2:54 He wanted me to be like his pet monkey, like came around.

Joe Rogan 2:57 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 2:57 And just, like, made him laugh. And I gave him shit and I think guys like that are used to be- you get surrounded by yes-men too, at a certain...

Joe Rogan 3:04 Oh yeah, for sure.

Bridget Phetasy 3:05 And you don't have people, like, taking the piss outta you. And so I would make fun of him for his boring stories about his mattresses that people would sit there... I'm like, "Why are you guys listening to this guy talk about a mattress for an hour?" And he was- I was in the shower and he was talking about how he and his friends got together, and he's like, "You know, we sat around and we were talking," and he's- and there's a certain level at which you can be happy no matter what. And I thought I'd been rubbing off on him. Like, oh, my yogi spirituality has run- rubbing off on him. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:38 What did he get to, like, $10 billion?

Bridget Phetasy 3:39 And he- no, he goes, "And it's $250 million."

Joe Rogan 3:42 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 3:42 (laughs) I was like, "What?" I was crying with happiness. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:49 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 3:50 Like, where does that leave the rest of us schmucks?

Joe Rogan 3:52 Oh.

Bridget Phetasy 3:53 By the way.

Joe Rogan 3:54 That is so funny.

Bridget Phetasy 3:55 Like, I'm sitting there in his Carrera marble freaking shower. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:58 Imagine the thought that the only way you could ever be happy is with $250 million.

Bridget Phetasy 4:04 That's- that's the minimum.

Joe Rogan 4:05 By the way, I know some people worth $250 million that are miserable as fuck.

Bridget Phetasy 4:09 Yeah, no. It's just... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:10 It's not- it's not gonna do it.

Bridget Phetasy 4:11 (laughs) It's not.

Joe Rogan 4:12 It's not gonna do it at all. It's not.

Bridget Phetasy 4:14 It's like, I'm sorry, where does that leave people like me?

Joe Rogan 4:17 No. You need-

Bridget Phetasy 4:19 Donuts.

Joe Rogan 4:19 You need f- I think you need a few things. You need your health, above it all.

Bridget Phetasy 4:23 Yeah, it doesn't matter how rich you are.

Joe Rogan 4:24 You have to have your health. That's number one.

Bridget Phetasy 4:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 4:26 Number two is you have to have friends. If you- if you're just like the man and everybody's kissing your ass and you're, you know, you're- you're the head of this giant business and you live in a bubble and... You're not happy. That's not happy. Happy is you have to have colleagues. You have to have companions, comrades. You have- you have people that you're- you're like them. You get to hang together, go to dinner and laugh and hug each other.

Bridget Phetasy 4:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:51 Have fun.

Bridget Phetasy 4:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:52 Enjoy your life.

Bridget Phetasy 4:54 I was thinking about even the other night in the green room, like, it keeps- it- it's like everyone takes the piss out of each other.

Joe Rogan 5:00 Yes.

Bridget Phetasy 5:01 It doesn't fucking matter what level you're at, who you are, everybody's talking shit.

Joe Rogan 5:05 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 5:05 It keeps everybody... It doesn't matter. Like, you can walk out that door and be very famous, but in that room, it's just comedians (laughs) talking shit.

Joe Rogan 5:14 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 5:14 And-

Joe Rogan 5:14 It's a beautiful environment to keep your head straight.

Bridget Phetasy 5:17 It's very... It's necessary, I think, too. And- and- and it is. Like, even though you might think you want yes-men all around you, it just- it's- I think what I've learned even just from being around rich guys who I give a lot of- talk a lot of shit to is they don't really want that.

Joe Rogan 5:34 No. It's uncomfortable. You don't want yes-men around you.

Bridget Phetasy 5:38 And-

Joe Rogan 5:38 You want people that are making fun of you. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 5:39 And also, how are you gonna... Like, you need people to push back.

Joe Rogan 5:43 Yeah. I think it also depends on what is your personality. Some people are, like, very deeply, deeply insecure and they really almost desire yes-men just to maintain stability. It's... Some people are very weird, you know? And you don't know it because their public face is that they're normal.

Bridget Phetasy 6:00 Right.

Joe Rogan 6:00 You know, their public face when they're getting interviewed, they know how to, like, turn it on for five minutes. But then when you're around them all day, you know, they're fucking crazy people.

Bridget Phetasy 6:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:08 Which is why they're successful in the first place, which is really weird. It's like what got you the dance is literally mental illness.

Bridget Phetasy 6:14 I- I- I was talking to... I think Malice came on my podcast recently. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:19 He's the best. (laughs) He's the best.

Bridget Phetasy 6:21 One of my best friends, truly.

Joe Rogan 6:22 Is he doing standup now?

Bridget Phetasy 6:23 I hope he does.

Joe Rogan 6:24 I heard he's doing standup. I heard he's gonna do standup-

Bridget Phetasy 6:27 Well-

Joe Rogan 6:27 ... or he's planning on doing standup.

Bridget Phetasy 6:28 He wants to, but here's the thing, he probably has to do it at Mothership. Like, he can't be at an open mic where somebody's gonna record.

Joe Rogan 6:36 Oh, yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 6:37 You know?

Joe Rogan 6:37 Well, the Mothe- he could totally do Mothership open mic.

Bridget Phetasy 6:39 Okay. So, we're gonna make that happen.

Joe Rogan 6:41 We have Sunday and Monday nights-

Bridget Phetasy 6:41 Yeah, that's what I said. I was like-

Joe Rogan 6:42 ... every week.

Bridget Phetasy 6:42 ... talk to Joe. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:43 Oh, I'd- I'd let him go up and do a guest spot on one of my shows, fuck it.

Bridget Phetasy 6:47 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:48 He's funny, man.

Bridget Phetasy 6:49 Yeah, he is.

Joe Rogan 6:49 He's fucking funny. I, when he, when he said that, you know, that viral clip, when, uh, you know, if you, y- you know, y- you know, "You're an ableist."

Bridget Phetasy 6:58 Yes.

Joe Rogan 6:58 And I'm like, "An ableist?"

Bridget Phetasy 7:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:00 He's like, "She's a retard."

Bridget Phetasy 7:01 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:02 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 7:02 He's so quick.

Joe Rogan 7:04 Oh, it's this timing is excellent.

Bridget Phetasy 7:05 He's-

Joe Rogan 7:06 He's such a smart guy.

Bridget Phetasy 7:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:07 He's so fuckin', except when it comes to, like, the whole anarchy thing.

Bridget Phetasy 7:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:11 "We don't need cops." I'm like, "Listen, bitch, you need a cop for, b- just to keep me from you."

Bridget Phetasy 7:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:15 "What are you talking about? What are you talking about, you don't need cops? What are you talking about? Shut the fuck up. You need cops."

Bridget Phetasy 7:20 But he was saying-

Joe Rogan 7:22 "You need cops."

Bridget Phetasy 7:23 Yeah. He said I-

Joe Rogan 7:23 I don't wanna hear that nonsense.

Bridget Phetasy 7:24 No. I mean-

Joe Rogan 7:25 I don't wanna hear that no law and order nonsense. Shut the fuck up.

Bridget Phetasy 7:27 I just am like, where are you in this hierarchy? You know?

Joe Rogan 7:30 Yeah, where, you're dead.

Bridget Phetasy 7:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:31 You're dead. I'm gonna steal your food on day one.

Bridget Phetasy 7:33 First-

Joe Rogan 7:33 Shut the fuck up.

Bridget Phetasy 7:34 ... first round of the f- the purge, you're gone. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:37 It's weird. What the fuck is wrong with you? (laughs) "You need cops." (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 7:41 I feel like I'm at least second round of the purge, but-

Joe Rogan 7:44 Are you armed?

Bridget Phetasy 7:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:45 Yeah. Well, that's important.

Bridget Phetasy 7:46 So, it's at least second.

Joe Rogan 7:47 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 7:48 Maybe not.

Joe Rogan 7:48 You gotta, do you know how to use it?

Bridget Phetasy 7:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:49 Do you train?

Bridget Phetasy 7:50 I, uh, I do, yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:51 Okay.

Bridget Phetasy 7:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:52 That's good.

Bridget Phetasy 7:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:53 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 7:53 I don't wanna be one of those like... (screams)

Joe Rogan 7:55 Yeah. No.

Bridget Phetasy 7:55 That's right. I-

Joe Rogan 7:56 I taught my kids how to shoot when they were very young.

Bridget Phetasy 7:58 Yeah, I think you, yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:00 You gotta teach 'em firearm safety, you know, how, never have your finger on the trigger-

Bridget Phetasy 8:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:04 ... unless you're trying to shoot something.

Bridget Phetasy 8:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:06 Ever. You know? Ever. Don't hold the gun with your finger on the trigger. Always point it away, even if it's not loaded. Point it away from people, point it at the ground, point it away. If people around, point it in a, in a direction where there's no human beings.

Bridget Phetasy 8:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:18 You know? Understand-

Bridget Phetasy 8:19 Always check and see.

Joe Rogan 8:20 Yeah. Always check and see-

Bridget Phetasy 8:21 And see if-

Joe Rogan 8:21 ... there's not a bullet in the chamber.

Bridget Phetasy 8:22 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:23 This is how you rack it, this is how you do it.

Bridget Phetasy 8:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:25 It's like, you should know how to use them. Just because, if, God forbid something ever happens that's horrible, your house gets broken into and, you know-

Bridget Phetasy 8:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:34 ... you have, you have the ability to preserve your life.

Bridget Phetasy 8:37 My fear was always that I'd be in a situation, like in the movies, where somebody's wrestling with someone and then they kick the gun over-

Joe Rogan 8:44 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 8:44 ... and I'm the girl standing there and I'm like... (screams)

Joe Rogan 8:47 Right. How's this fucking...

Bridget Phetasy 8:48 I don't know what to do. (screams)

Joe Rogan 8:48 What are these buttons and switches? And the magazine pops out and like, "Fuck." (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 8:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:55 And you pull the trigger-

Bridget Phetasy 8:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:56 ... but it's not around the chamber. Like, "How does this fucking thing go?"

Bridget Phetasy 9:00 And then there is, and I accidentally shoot the hero.

Joe Rogan 9:02 Oh, that happens. That happens. People panic. You know?

Bridget Phetasy 9:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:05 If you're not used to, like, high pressure situations and you expect to be able to shoot somebody, Jesus Christ.

Bridget Phetasy 9:11 Oh, so Malice. Anyway, the reason I brought him up, he was talking about how many, he didn't realize how many people in podcasting were mentally ill. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:20 Ah. (laughs) Well, in everything.

Bridget Phetasy 9:23 Fa- yeah, in everything.

Joe Rogan 9:23 But podcasting for sure because, well, there's a lot of people that aren't performers that are in podcasting. I think they're even more mentally ill, because those are the people that are like deep in the fucking social media comments all day and seeing people shit on them and they, they're out of their fucking minds. There's a b- there's a bunch of them that are just off the r- and then you see them-

Bridget Phetasy 9:41 They fight all day.

Joe Rogan 9:42 They fight all day with each other, and you see them over the years get progressively more and more insane, and more and more aggressive to each other.

Bridget Phetasy 9:48 Mm-hmm. It seems, it seems exhausting. Also-

Joe Rogan 9:52 Oh, yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 9:53 ... who has time for that? I- I don't understand.

Joe Rogan 9:56 Not just exhausting, but detrimental. It's a tremendous waste of resources. It's really bad for you mentally. F- like, your own mindset is, it's bad if you're in conflict with someone all the time, especially if you could've avoided it.

Bridget Phetasy 10:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:09 Because you don't admire yourself if you're doing that. You, there's no way you're like, "Hey, I'm on the right track."

Bridget Phetasy 10:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:13 There's no fucking way. (laughs) There's no way. You're, you know you're retarded.

Bridget Phetasy 10:17 They might be feeling like they're on the right track.

Joe Rogan 10:19 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 10:19 I mean, I think Elon-

Joe Rogan 10:21 I think they're just on the wheel.

Bridget Phetasy 10:22 Elon's we- monetized it now, though. So these guys who are in the comments fighting, they're making, you know, two, three grand a month doing it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:30 That's a good point. That's a different thing, right? H- h- or how much are people, like, what's the highest earner on X? Like, how much can you make?

Bridget Phetasy 10:36 It's so random.

Joe Rogan 10:37 Can you make a living?

Bridget Phetasy 10:37 People are making livings.

Joe Rogan 10:39 Damn.

Bridget Phetasy 10:39 I think you have to be on it constantly.

Joe Rogan 10:41 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 10:41 And not, and some people make a lot of money. When I see them post what they're making, I'm like, "Holy crap, how are you-"

Joe Rogan 10:47 Like how much?

Bridget Phetasy 10:48 I don't know. And it seems to be people who kind of Elon will like, um-

Joe Rogan 10:52 Boost.

Bridget Phetasy 10:52 Yeah. He'll, he'll like turn the eye of Sauron upon them and suddenly like they are, are... But it's very m- mercurial, you know?

Joe Rogan 10:59 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 10:59 It can, it seems like it can change on a dime. And-

Joe Rogan 11:02 Well, a lot of people post things that are just not true and Elon reposts them. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 11:06 All the time. He uses social media like we do. I think I do more fact-checking than he does.

Joe Rogan 11:13 Yeah, he doesn't-

Bridget Phetasy 11:14 None.

Joe Rogan 11:14 He doesn't have the time, first of all. Give the guy a break.

Bridget Phetasy 11:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:17 He's running, like, government programs a- along with SpaceX, along with Tesla.

Bridget Phetasy 11:22 I will g- I will cut him some slack, but also, there, with great power comes great responsibility. You have more followers than anyone on that entire site and you're gonna boost, like-

Joe Rogan 11:32 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 11:33 ... Russian propaganda? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:35 Yeah, that was one, right? That fake talk show.

Bridget Phetasy 11:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:38 There was a fake talk show that he boosted. Um, the other thing that we should probably tell people is that Politico thing is not true.

Bridget Phetasy 11:45 No, I know.

Joe Rogan 11:46 The $8 million thing. The $8 million is $8 million from all the government organizations from 2016-

Bridget Phetasy 11:52 Yep.

Joe Rogan 11:53 ... to 2024. So, it's an eight-year period. And then, uh, it's a p- there's some kind of wacky premium subscription that you can get from Politico-

Bridget Phetasy 12:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:02 ... that allows you, like, instantaneous access to the news. You're not just reading the articles, you're like getting the news feeds. I don't know, there's some-

Bridget Phetasy 12:09 It's a, it's a, well, it's a lot of places where... There is, look, I'm, I'm of two minds of this. I think we need to be accurate because we do live in a time where it's almost like people don't care about truth at all.

Joe Rogan 12:22 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 12:22 They're i- they're just, they're like, "Ah, whatever. It doesn't matter." It's not even, i- i- it's, uh, indifference to it, you know?

Joe Rogan 12:30 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 12:30 Which is not great. But I do think...... credibility, like, you should care about your own credibility at some-

Joe Rogan 12:37 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 12:37 ... point. But people get rewarded for being shameless so that you can just keep going. The Politico thing is weird because, uh, y- yes, a lot of the stuff that's going out, uh, right now on all of these, like, deep dives that people are doing, they're viral, they're mostly, (laughs) many of them are fake. But also, the c- why is any taxpayer dollar that... It should be zero dollars, right? That's going-

Joe Rogan 13:03 The person to find-

Bridget Phetasy 13:03 ... to this stuff.

Joe Rogan 13:04 ... the person to search is Mike Benz. Go, go to the Mike Benz Cyber... Is it Mike Benz Cyber? I think that's it, right? Uh, his, his X page. Mike Benz has-

Bridget Phetasy 13:14 He's been on this forever.

Joe Rogan 13:15 Forever.

Bridget Phetasy 13:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:16 Well, uh, former State Department guy, and he uncovered all this bullshit while he was there. And he is insanely knowledgeable and insanely articulate and so good at expressing exactly how these things fund things and what it is. And it's... What it is, is an enormous slush fund.

Bridget Phetasy 13:34 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:35 That's what it is.

Bridget Phetasy 13:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:36 And, uh, unaccountability and money just coming and going and flowing-

Bridget Phetasy 13:40 And it's circular.

Joe Rogan 13:42 ... and it's all... Uh-huh.

Bridget Phetasy 13:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:42 All circular, donating to the Democrats. The United States government funds them. They donate to the Democratic Party. It's... The whole thing is wild.

Bridget Phetasy 13:51 And people can sense this. This is why when they're saying, "Oh, it's..." It, it's like you can sense that there's been a misappropriation of our money, of taxpayer dollars. You know there's fraud in Medicare and Medicaid. Our... It... The American people have sensed this and they feel like there's corruption, but I think they've just hopelessly kind of (laughs) surrendered because you, uh... You're... I'm a middle class mom who works, who has a kid, who, like... It's... You... Who has time to fight this?

Joe Rogan 14:21 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 14:22 You know, you don't have time to, like-

Joe Rogan 14:23 You don't have time to pay attention.

Bridget Phetasy 14:24 No.

Joe Rogan 14:24 How do you have time to fight it?

Bridget Phetasy 14:25 No. No, and people are just trying to survive and get through the day-

Joe Rogan 14:29 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 14:30 ... and it... And then you... But you know, you have this sense, like... So, I can see the excitement of, like, people do... Elon, what he's doing, and we shou-... It shouldn't be controversial to want to, like, audit our budet-... Our budget.

Joe Rogan 14:46 No.

Bridget Phetasy 14:46 Americans have wanted this forever.

Joe Rogan 14:47 Not... 'Cause it's not just the money being spent. It's what it's being spent for-

Bridget Phetasy 14:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:52 ... and what's going on, which is an enormous propaganda machine.

Bridget Phetasy 14:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:56 Like, a big part of the whole left-wing narrative that has, like, overlaid our country over the last, whatever, eight years, 10 years, is all propaganda funded by our own government.

Bridget Phetasy 15:09 (laughs) That's right.

Joe Rogan 15:10 Like peop-... This is why Trump won the election. People don't really believe in these things. The amount of people that think that transgender f- biological males should be competing against your daughter in sports is so fucking small-

Bridget Phetasy 15:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:26 ... but yet our own government was propping it up. It's so... And why are they propping it up? Because it's a fucking beach ball at a concert. You keep it tossing-

Bridget Phetasy 15:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:33 ... up in the air and everybody's distracted. As long as you can keep a few things going, here's the things you gotta keep going. Abortion, right? Overturning Roe v. Wade is so great for business-

Bridget Phetasy 15:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:45 ... 'cause now it's like a battle, the battlegrounds and women's rights and their lives are at stake. Okay, that's one. Gay marriage, that's a huge one. They're... Now, they're gonna take away gay marriage. Oh my God, bounce that fucking beach ball. That's a gigantic one. War is a giant one. All these different things are just fucking beach balls, and they toss them around every now and again. In the, in the meanwhile, they're just siphoning billions-

Bridget Phetasy 16:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:09 ... of dollars. Zelenskyy just said he's missing $100 billion in the 177 billion that we supposedly sent there.

Bridget Phetasy 16:16 That was something weird too about Haiti, where it's like only 2% of the money actually went there. It's, it's crazy.

Joe Rogan 16:23 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 16:23 You know, Americans give away a lot of their hard-earned money because they, they are actually kind-hearted and wanna donate to countries that are... And then you find out it's, like, some trans performance. There is a lot of nonsense.

Joe Rogan 16:36 A lot of nonsense-

Bridget Phetasy 16:37 A lot.

Joe Rogan 16:37 ... and, and in tunes of hundreds of millions of dollars of nonsense-

Bridget Phetasy 16:40 And then they talk about-

Joe Rogan 16:42 ... all over the place.

Bridget Phetasy 16:42 ... it like, "Oh, who cares? It's only $10 billion." You're like, "You guys are out of your fucking minds if you think that's gonna be the argument that resonates with Americans." And who cares-

Joe Rogan 16:52 Not only that, how are you gonna say that?

Bridget Phetasy 16:54 ... if they're pointing out $10 billion, because they'll be like, "Oh, look at the trillions over here." But all of those billions (laughs) add up, like, how are you even saying that? And it's... The other... It's... I'm grateful that you had me on MAGA state media. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:13 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 17:14 Thank you for allowing me-

Joe Rogan 17:15 You had to get that out. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 17:17 Because I see it all the time, all, all the time. Like it... And it's, it's hilarious to me in light of how much money goes to funding, like, sponsored by Pfizer, you know-

Joe Rogan 17:30 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 17:30 ... and all of these other... How... The, like... The fucking audacity to accuse you, who just has people you like on your podcast, to suddenly be state media when you literally have had state media work... Like, media working with the state in conjunction for a decade.

Joe Rogan 17:51 Yeah, at least, and probably a lot more, longer than that.

Bridget Phetasy 17:54 Mul- multiple decades.

Joe Rogan 17:54 It's just gotten really gross once... Well, Trump was just sort of like the accelerant. He was the gasoline that got thrown on the fire, so we got to see, like, how this thing works.

Bridget Phetasy 18:04 I voted for him.

Joe Rogan 18:05 I did too.

Bridget Phetasy 18:06 I came out-

Joe Rogan 18:06 Well, openly. I j-... I endorsed him. I was like, "This has got to stop. This is, this is crazy."

Bridget Phetasy 18:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:12 Also, he's not what you guys said he was. He's just not.

Bridget Phetasy 18:15 We... I've... I put a video out, like, the Friday before the election 'cause I voted for him, um, early. And I was Hillary in 2016, no one in 2020 and-... Trump in 2024 (laughs) . So, like, I don't care how people vote. When a pe- do whatever you want. I was only being honest and it was w- it was weird to come out and say that as a comedian, because I don't n- think that comedians should really be political. But on the other hand, it felt dishonest because I had been so openly, kind of, torn about voting for him.

Joe Rogan 18:50 Well, also, if you're a comedian, you have to protect free speech.

Bridget Phetasy 18:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:54 The- there is no if, ands, or buts about it in- when it comes to this argument. The Biden administration was fucking terrifying for free speech. They were actively attacking people that were posting truth on social media, and attacking them and trying to get their posts removed, including the guy who was the one who was quoted in this fucking book about Kamala Harris, saying that we made it difficult to-

Bridget Phetasy 19:21 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:21 ... for her to come on the show. And they told a untrue story about having a bunch of people come down here to do a run through of the set, like they were ready to do it. All bullshit. That was the guy.

Bridget Phetasy 19:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:33 He was the guy that was emailing Twitter and saying, "How is this post..." Being, like, super aggressive, saying, "Why is this post still up?" Oh, you mean that truthful post?

Bridget Phetasy 19:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:41 About vaccine injuries and side effects? What the fuck are you talking about?

Bridget Phetasy 19:45 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 19:45 Like that- that was getting very scary.

Bridget Phetasy 19:47 Yeah, this is what I said in the video I made about why I voted for him. I was like, there's a couple things. I've interviewed many de-transitioners. Those interviews keep me up at night, they haunt me. What- like, there's too many of them already and one is too many. And I'm-

Joe Rogan 20:02 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 20:02 I think a lot of Americans were like, "We're put- we're putting a stop to this n-" We have to stop this nonsense. It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 20:08 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 20:08 We're sterilizing children. The other thing is free speech. And I was like, you know, when we're talking in our weird, like, using that crazy YouTube language that you have to use, like un-alived, and you're- and you're saying, like, the jib jab or whatever, like, to get around.

Joe Rogan 20:24 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 20:24 That's coming from one side.

Joe Rogan 20:26 100%.

Bridget Phetasy 20:26 I'm not go- I'm not using this language that-

Joe Rogan 20:28 But I think it's coming from one side 'cause that one side is in power. That's my fear. My fear is if the other side was in power and they were influenced by the same amount of money from these companies, they might be doing it too. So, if the right was in control of all the social media companies, are we so naive that we think that they wouldn't be co-opted by giant corporations and they would wanna censor them too? What happened was, it was all the left. So, the tech people, who are, you know, generally they go to universities and they get involved in electronics and technology, and these people are generally left-leaning, right? And if they're doing it in San Francisco, well, the whole culture's left-leaning, right? It's like, not- not even leaning, it's just left, right? If you're- you're a pariah if you're a MAG- you wear a MAGA hat in San Francisco, you're a fucking in-... Maybe today. I bet today-

Bridget Phetasy 21:14 I think you can wear them now.

Joe Rogan 21:15 I bet today you can.

Bridget Phetasy 21:15 Yeah, in New York too. I think you can rock 'em.

Joe Rogan 21:18 But- but back when they were establishing the social media platforms, everybody was left wing. But what if it was the opposite? What if technology was the realm of the right, and what if it was all... And, you know, what if, like, the- the- gay rights, what if you started thinking about it in terms of, like, biblical l- law? You know, like a man lieth with a man and people start getting real crazy about-

Bridget Phetasy 21:38 They might.

Joe Rogan 21:39 ... what gay- yeah, but then-

Bridget Phetasy 21:39 That might be the next 10 years (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 21:40 But you see it in other c- I don't think so.

Bridget Phetasy 21:43 (laughs) No, I'm just kidding.

Joe Rogan 21:43 But you s- but th- that's the good thing. Trump is not conservative when it comes to social issues.

Bridget Phetasy 21:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:49 He's not.

Bridget Phetasy 21:49 My-

Joe Rogan 21:49 And I- I think that's what we need. We need, like, a realist, someone who's, like, conservative fiscally and understands foreign policy and how to deal with fucking dictators and shit. But also someone who's like, "I don't give a fuck who you love."

Bridget Phetasy 22:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:03 Who cares? Who cares? I'm happy if you're happy. Are you in love with a woman and you're a woman? Fantastic.

Bridget Phetasy 22:09 The-

Joe Rogan 22:10 Uh, uh, if you're in love, that's great.

Bridget Phetasy 22:11 Yeah, I think the argument though, I mean, as- as you've seen with some of these articles that are like, "The right-wing ecosystem that, like, red-pilled all these men." The argument is that the- the internet is right wing and that this is why Trump won, is because the- all of these influencers are red-pilling people and not... You know, it's an easy way to not take any responsibility for how you've pushed men away from your party. How you've-

Joe Rogan 22:36 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 22:36 ... like, failed in-

Joe Rogan 22:38 (clears throat)

Bridget Phetasy 22:38 ... to- to get moderates on- in any sense of the way. Even just yesterday you had the, like, Trump photo op with him signing the rights for women to compete (laughs) against just women.

Joe Rogan 22:50 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 22:50 Like, that is the e- how did you-

Joe Rogan 22:52 Crazy.

Bridget Phetasy 22:52 Yeah. How did you lose that?

Joe Rogan 22:53 (coughs) He's the big feminist. He's the big- Donald Trump's the biggest feminist president ever, just by signing that thing.

Bridget Phetasy 22:57 Yeah, I know (laughs) . It's just-

Joe Rogan 22:59 Fucking-

Bridget Phetasy 22:59 ... it's just so funny.

Joe Rogan 23:00 ... crazy.

Bridget Phetasy 23:00 It's s-

Joe Rogan 23:00 It's so crazy.

Bridget Phetasy 23:01 It's be- so-

Joe Rogan 23:02 There was a guy who went on, it was MSNBC or CNN, I forget what it was, but he was essentially talking about me and Theo Von and all these other podcasts like Flagrant, Andrew Schultz, as if w- this is this massive right-wing network that's heavily funded and has been built up over years and we don't have anything like that. I'm like, "Dude, th- you fucking idiot, you can go and watch me on a laptop in my fucking den-

Bridget Phetasy 23:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:32 ... from 15, 16 years ago."

Bridget Phetasy 23:34 (laughs) It's also just funny to think of, like, what-

Joe Rogan 23:35 With me and Redband (coughs) .

Bridget Phetasy 23:37 ... AG1 is behind this, you know (laughs) ?

Joe Rogan 23:38 Yeah, we're hitting a bong and our only sponsor was the Fleshlight.

Bridget Phetasy 23:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:43 Shut the fuck up. Like, that's not... You- you just don't wanna admit that organically-

Bridget Phetasy 23:48 Right.

Joe Rogan 23:48 ... there's a bunch of people that feel very differently than you. Also, they don't like you.

Bridget Phetasy 23:53 Yeah (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 23:54 You don't represent a man to a lot of men. "When you're one of those guys that talks in up-speak, we have to understand-"

Bridget Phetasy 24:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:01 "... that there's a- there's a whole right-wing ecosystem."

Bridget Phetasy 24:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:04 "And- and it's been heavily funded, and the propaganda that they're pushing, we have to fight back against that, and we need someone of our own."

Bridget Phetasy 24:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:11 And, like, th- no fucking kid who's on a basketball court, who's 17 years old, is looking at his phone, is like, looking at going to college next year and looking at getting a job someday and being a man, is looking at that and going, "What the fuck is this?"

Bridget Phetasy 24:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:25 And he's hanging out with his bros and they're like, "What the- this is fucking bullshit. This is bullshit."And then, you could see a man who's not owned.

Bridget Phetasy 24:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:34 Like me.

Bridget Phetasy 24:34 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:35 I'm not owned. I can do whatever I want.

Bridget Phetasy 24:37 Yes.

Joe Rogan 24:37 And that's what they want. They wanna just be a man. And be a nice man. You could be a nice man. You could be-

Bridget Phetasy 24:42 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 24:42 ... a, a masculine man and be nice.

Bridget Phetasy 24:44 I've said this a lot about you, is that you, like, they sh-... You do a lot... (laughs) You could be a way worse version of yourself. You know, the, with the level of pla-... Where you're at, you could be a total douchebag and you're, like, promoting having families and promoting, like, lifting weights. Like, it could be a lot worse.

Joe Rogan 25:06 Yeah. But I couldn't, because it wouldn't work. I wouldn't stay.

Bridget Phetasy 25:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:10 I wouldn't have been able to maintain. People would've seen through it-

Bridget Phetasy 25:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:13 ... eventually.

Bridget Phetasy 25:14 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:14 You know? The JRE coin, I would've fucking cashed out. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 25:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:19 I would've fucking pump and dumped and made a few billion dollars. I'd be on a yacht with Bezos, fucking partying.

Bridget Phetasy 25:24 Woo!

Joe Rogan 25:25 Whoo!

Bridget Phetasy 25:25 But d- see, this is my question, del-... Wh- I was watching the inauguration and I was, like, seeing all the kind of tech people and I was like, "This is somewhat unsettling." I mean, it's, it's good to see that tech has come around to not-

Joe Rogan 25:40 They have to.

Bridget Phetasy 25:40 They have to. But, um, it also... I worry that it's just because they wanna, like, get into China, or, uh, or... You know, I still worry about-

Joe Rogan 25:51 Well, there's definitely that. I mean, it's

Narrator 25:52 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 25:53 ... with the government. (laughs) You know? Like, they-

Joe Rogan 25:55 Yeah, that is true.

Bridget Phetasy 25:55 For all the, like, yelling we've been doing about tech in cahoots with the government-

Joe Rogan 26:00 Mm-hmm.

Bridget Phetasy 26:00 ... I still think I have to try and be like, "This could go sideways." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:05 Well, also they have to look at it in terms of, like, what Elon is doing, right? So if Elon has aligned himself clearly in a huge way with the right and now is running DOGE, right? The Department of Government Efficiency, and also has X-

Bridget Phetasy 26:19 And a meme coin. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:20 That he's turning X into a platform that rivals not just social media platforms, but video platforms like YouTube.

Bridget Phetasy 26:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 26:27 Like, they get insane amounts of videos o- o- of views, rather, on videos that are on X and then you can get paid by X.

Bridget Phetasy 26:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:34 And then they're talking about having some sort of, like, X monetary system, you know, like a We... Doesn't WeChat have something like that? They have money built into it. So what's to stop that motherfucker from having a phone? I keep asking him. I said, "Dude, I've been seeing all these articles about you making a phone." He goes, "I hope I don't have to make a phone. It's very difficult to make a phone."

Bridget Phetasy 26:51 He said he wants to make a phone.

Joe Rogan 26:53 No, he didn't.

Bridget Phetasy 26:54 He's... Well, he's polled, would people buy a phone if he made one?

Joe Rogan 26:57 Yeah. Just to fuck around.

Bridget Phetasy 26:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:59 But he's not interested in making a phone. He doesn't wanna make a phone.

Bridget Phetasy 27:01 Every time Elon fucks around, it ends up happening.

Joe Rogan 27:03 Well, he could make a phone.

Bridget Phetasy 27:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:05 He would be the only guy that would break us out of the blue bubble paradigm 'cause, like, I was switching to Android for a while. I was, uh, fucking around with Android. It's hard. It's, it's really hard. One of the, one of the hard things is getting people to start using WhatsApp or something like that. And so, like, people just don't want to use it. You miss a lot of texts.

Bridget Phetasy 27:20 Aren't they sue- getting sued for the blue bubble?

Joe Rogan 27:23 Uh, I think they are in Europe.

Bridget Phetasy 27:23 I think it's, like, in... No, I think in Am-... I believe... Is it just in Europe? I thought it was part of an antitrust lawsuit against-

Joe Rogan 27:31 It's just better.

Bridget Phetasy 27:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:32 Here's the thing. It's not that it is, uh, it keeps people, but it's just better. It looks better. The blue bubble looks better-

Bridget Phetasy 27:40 It does.

Joe Rogan 27:40 ... than the green bubble. It's, it's more-

Bridget Phetasy 27:42 Soothing.

Joe Rogan 27:43 It's soothing for your eyes.

Bridget Phetasy 27:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:45 If the green one had black text, maybe it would look cool, but the green one with white text, it's a little weird. I don't like the way it looks.

Bridget Phetasy 27:51 And every time there's, like, a green bubble person in a group chat and they send a picture-

Joe Rogan 27:55 They fuck it up.

Bridget Phetasy 27:55 ... it's like, "Get the fuck-"

Joe Rogan 27:56 Not anymore though. Not anymore.

Bridget Phetasy 27:57 Oh, okay. They changed it?

Joe Rogan 27:57 Because RCS texting, RCS texting is, uh, it allows for large sizes of files.

Bridget Phetasy 28:03 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 28:03 So you can s-... You don't, you don't have to have an inco- compressed photo. So if, like, Brian Simpson, who's an Android guy, he'll, he'll send me pictures now, they look perfect.

Bridget Phetasy 28:10 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 28:11 Yeah. Videos are perfect.

Bridget Phetasy 28:12 We have one sister and we're always like, "Get the fuck out of the chat. (laughs) You're-

Joe Rogan 28:16 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 28:16 You're screwing things up." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:17 It doesn't anymore. But just go to it on WhatsApp, which is better anyway, because you could talk a lot of shit and they just have it automatically delete.

Bridget Phetasy 28:24 Yeah. But it doesn't really delete, does it?

Joe Rogan 28:26 It doesn't, but it does.

Bridget Phetasy 28:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:28 So it does off of people's phones. It doesn't for the government. The reality is, the government has access to phones in a way that you can't even imagine. Because if we know about Pegasus and then we know about Pegasus 2, so, um, Gavin de Becker, who's a security expert, explained to me these things and explained to me how they work and the exploit of Pegasus 1 was, you would have to click on a link. Pegasus 2, they just need your phone number.

Bridget Phetasy 28:53 Wow.

Joe Rogan 28:53 That's it.

Bridget Phetasy 28:54 Wow.

Joe Rogan 28:54 So all your encryption is all cute, that's great, but if they can actually see your phone itself, what difference does it make if it's encrypted?

Bridget Phetasy 29:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:01 They have access to the phone.

Bridget Phetasy 29:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:02 So they see everything. So there's no privacy.

Bridget Phetasy 29:05 Yeah, no.

Joe Rogan 29:06 Not from the state.

Bridget Phetasy 29:07 Not f-... I mean, and given how many things I get, like, that I'm being hacked, like-

Joe Rogan 29:14 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 29:14 ... you know, I get a notice every day, like, "Your information."

Joe Rogan 29:17 Yeah. I get that all the time. Um, I've been getting these, uh, fake ones on X saying that my account-

Bridget Phetasy 29:22 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:22 ... is about to get deleted.

Bridget Phetasy 29:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:24 I'm like, "Bro." (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 29:26 No.

Joe Rogan 29:26 "I'll just call my friend." Like... (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 29:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:28 "You ain't deleting my account. Shut the fuck up." But it's, it's j- trying to get you to click on a link.

Bridget Phetasy 29:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:33 And a few of my friends have actually been dumbasses and clicked on that link-

Bridget Phetasy 29:37 (laughs) Oh, got it.

Joe Rogan 29:37 ... and then they get hacked.

Bridget Phetasy 29:38 (laughs) Yeah. Yeah. And then they're, like, selling Bitcoin on their page or whatever.

Joe Rogan 29:42 Yeah. They do it to artists too. My friend Suzanne, um, she was doing... Suzanne Santo, talented, amazing musician. She was doing this, uh, Facebook thing and, uh, it was a podcast and they had d- you know, she had to do it, like, over Zoom or whatever. And the guy said, um, "You're not doing it right. Can I, can I have access to your account and I'll just set it up for you? Just sign this." And he sent her this message so she could hand over access so he could set it up, and then immediately went dark, stole her account, gone. Yeah. Like that. Just-

Bridget Phetasy 30:15 Did she get it back?

Joe Rogan 30:16 Yeah, she got it back.

Bridget Phetasy 30:16 Oh.

Joe Rogan 30:17 She got it back. Some friends with Zuck. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 30:19 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:20 Like, she was, she was fucked.

Bridget Phetasy 30:22 Your IT support.

Joe Rogan 30:22 She was fucked. And it happens to a lot of people.

Bridget Phetasy 30:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:25 They, they accidentally click a link.

Bridget Phetasy 30:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:27 They accidental-... I don't click. Shit.

Bridget Phetasy 30:29 No, no, no.

Joe Rogan 30:30 But I'm also not under the illusion that, you know, every fucking disgusting meme that I send my friends is not being, like, put into a file somewhere.

Bridget Phetasy 30:38 In the UK.

Joe Rogan 30:39 ... everywhere.

Bridget Phetasy 30:40 (laughs) You land and they're like, "You're under arrest, sir."

Joe Rogan 30:42 Yeah, probably, right?

Bridget Phetasy 30:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:43 Yeah, probably.

Bridget Phetasy 30:44 D- what do you think about the AI influencers now? Do you think that will be just a trend or do you think we're ... (laughs) you're giving me that look.

Joe Rogan 30:51 Yeah. Um-

Bridget Phetasy 30:52 I'm not talking about the one. I mean, just-

Joe Rogan 30:54 That one? That one? (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 30:58 (laughs) Jamie fucking knows who we're talking about.

Joe Rogan 30:59 The really, the really hot Down syndrome girl? That's a problem. That one's a problem, 'cause like she's like barely Down syndrome. I mean, I, I have, I've dated some girls who are basically retarded.

Bridget Phetasy 31:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:09 But they just didn't have a problem. They didn't have a chromosome issue.

Bridget Phetasy 31:11 So wait, I haven't ... This has not entered my algorithm, but it seems like it's entered everyone else's algorithm.

Joe Rogan 31:17 It's fake. I'm 90% sure it's fake-

Bridget Phetasy 31:18 Is it AI?

Joe Rogan 31:18 ...'cause these girls, they don't ... Like unfortunately, Down syndrome people, their bodies a lot of times look different.

Bridget Phetasy 31:25 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 31:25 And this girl looks like a 10. She looks like, you know, just like as hot as can be.

Bridget Phetasy 31:31 Okay.

Joe Rogan 31:32 She looks like she's fake, and she's dancing around with these big giant boobs.

Bridget Phetasy 31:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:36 And she's got slight downs with glasses on.

Narrator 31:39 There is an AI one but they're j- it's based on-

Bridget Phetasy 31:41 Why are they doing it?

Joe Rogan 31:41 Right, but that girl looks different.

Narrator 31:43 She's real.

Joe Rogan 31:44 Right. She's real and she's very cute, and s- but she looks like she has Down syndrome. This other girl is like, you know, five foot eight, perfect body, big hips, big ass.

Bridget Phetasy 31:53 But why are they doing fake one? Like, uh ...

Joe Rogan 31:56 Because to get people to pay attention to it. Because it's like the, the forbidden fruit, like ooh, ooh.

Bridget Phetasy 32:01 (laughs) Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 32:02 Also, there's a lot of like really dumb dudes who like can't talk to girls, like, "I could probably talk to her." (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 32:07 Oh my God. (laughs) We live in a fucking Black Mirror episode.

Joe Rogan 32:13 Well, it's gotta be worse than that.

Bridget Phetasy 32:14 (laughs) It-

Joe Rogan 32:14 Because you're gonna be ... It's ... We are, uh, I don't know how many years away, but not far away from fully immersive virtual reality.

Bridget Phetasy 32:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:24 Where you're gonna put on a headset, it's gonna lock into your mind. You're gonna be able to see things that aren't there, you're gonna be able to feel things that aren't there. That's gonna happen. You know? Um, they're working on all ... I mean, Zuckerberg, when l- l- last time he was here showed me these new AR glasses that they have.

Bridget Phetasy 32:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:42 That's cra- me and Lex tested them out.

Bridget Phetasy 32:43 Are they the ... That, th- is that just like where you can, like, see a map over your eye?

Joe Rogan 32:48 You see everything. You see maps, you can play games. You see information. You can just take a photo of a person that's in front of you and immediately know who they are and get a Google search on them. Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 32:57 That's terrifying.

Joe Rogan 32:58 Guys have already done that. They've already done that with the Meta glasses. There was a guy from Harvard. Wasn't it a student from Harvard that set it up? So, all he had to do was go outside, look at someone with the Meta glasses, take a photo, and it would show all the different information on them, where they lived. Yeah. Like if your face is out there and y- they can catch it if they know that like, oh, you were on a website that said this about you and then (snaps fingers) bam. Or you're on LinkedIn or you're on one of those things. Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 33:26 Yeah, that stuff is, is very unsettling to me, especially ... It's also why I don't think you should put your kids online. (laughs) I keep repeating this.

Joe Rogan 33:35 Well, it's very, it's very, very, very unsettling as long as there's predators in the world, right?

Bridget Phetasy 33:40 Which there will-

Joe Rogan 33:41 Which there are.

Bridget Phetasy 33:41 ... always be.

Narrator 33:41 Have you seen this that's going around?

Joe Rogan 33:43 What is it?

Narrator 33:43 Uh, this is I think an AI service. I think you can use it. Uh, based off of a photo, they had an interior apartment.

Joe Rogan 33:49 And then it can show you exactly where the person lives?

Narrator 33:52 Shows you where it is.

Joe Rogan 33:52 Yeah.

Narrator 33:52 They can do this now with any photo. I don't know. It's called like GeoSpy.

Bridget Phetasy 33:56 Oh, I've heard about this.

Joe Rogan 33:58 Holy shit.

Narrator 33:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:58 That's crazy.

Narrator 34:00 They've done it with like-

Bridget Phetasy 34:00 This is like a stalker's paradise.

Joe Rogan 34:02 Yeah. Yeah.

Narrator 34:03 Any, any social media post, they can find like a CCTV camera and like s- show them taking the photo kinda too.

Joe Rogan 34:08 (sighs)

Bridget Phetasy 34:09 What the fuck?

Narrator 34:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:11 But d-

Bridget Phetasy 34:11 No.

Joe Rogan 34:11 We didn't, uh, we, we knew this was coming, right? We all knew that privacy, as social media gets deeper and deeper into our lives, as technology gets more and more pervasive, as it gets more and more powerful, the, the thing that goes away is the boundaries between people and information.

Bridget Phetasy 34:29 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:29 Right? And your privacy is essentially just information that's o- only yours.

Bridget Phetasy 34:33 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:34 I think that's going to be a thing of the human past. I really do.

Bridget Phetasy 34:38 What?

Joe Rogan 34:39 Yeah, I think as technology advances, particularly AI, one of the big barriers, the big bottlenecks is going to be-

Bridget Phetasy 34:47 Privacy.

Joe Rogan 34:49 ... privacy. It's gonna be, first of all, privacy of thought. I think we're going to be able to read each other's minds and it's not gonna ... Well, that's one of the first things Elon said to me about Neurolink. He's like, "You're gonna be able to talk without words." And like, he's, he knows, like this is real.

Bridget Phetasy 35:06 'Cause he's an alien. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:08 Well, he's definitely not us.

Bridget Phetasy 35:09 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:10 But he's ... Whatever. He fucking knows you're going to have that, you know? And Jamie brought this point up once, and I think about it all the time. He said, "Aren't emojis kind of like a form of hieroglyphics?"

Bridget Phetasy 35:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:21 Like yeah, it is. Like you can, you could say things with emojis and I know exactly what you're talking about.

Bridget Phetasy 35:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:27 You know?

Bridget Phetasy 35:27 Yeah. I mean, there was a video going viral just today that I was watching, and the girl was like, "I don't know how to spell." Have you seen this? She's like, "I work for a corporation and I don't know how to spell."

Joe Rogan 35:37 Ugh.

Bridget Phetasy 35:38 And she's like, "And my little sister doesn't know how to spell either."

Joe Rogan 35:41 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 35:41 "And I've been ... I don't know how to s- like sound out words 'cause I got taught that weird way of reading that isn't like this."

Joe Rogan 35:48 What's the weird way of reading?

Bridget Phetasy 35:49 There's some way they all learned how to read, and it wasn't like Hooked on Phonics like we all learned where you, you sound it out. It was like some other different way. It, it's kinda like how they changed math to like core math, and they found out that all of these things are horrible, and actually literacy and people are like n- n- math, ri- all of this stuff is like falling off a cliff.

Joe Rogan 36:11 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 36:11 And they're trying to walk back all these weird ways. Have you s- I mean, you have kids, didn't they learn that weird way of doing math where you're like what is this weird math you're learning where it's just like ... It's cr- it's crazy. I think it's Core. Is that what it's called? Core? It's a ... So they've found out, but these kids didn't learn how to like sound words out, and then she's like, "I've been behind a computer and I've had spell check since I was in fifth grade."

Joe Rogan 36:36 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 36:37 So they don't, they didn't learn how to spell or like ... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:39 Well, a lot of-

Bridget Phetasy 36:40 She's like, "We're cooked."

Joe Rogan 36:41 Yeah, a lot of text messaging I do now, I just, I just talk to my phone and it makes the text for me.

Bridget Phetasy 36:47 Oh.

Joe Rogan 36:47 It's so much quicker.

Bridget Phetasy 36:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:49 It's like, "Hey, uh, come meet us at the club at 5:00." Click.... and it's- it takes three seconds. It's- it's really fucking accurate.

Bridget Phetasy 36:56 AI is- is crazy because it's- it is useful, you know? It's- it's like when-

Joe Rogan 37:02 That's how it gets you.

Bridget Phetasy 37:03 I know.

Joe Rogan 37:04 That's how it gets you.

Bridget Phetasy 37:05 I know. This happened to me last night, 'cause some- I hate coming up with titles for, like, the videos and all that stuff. I just don't like it. You- there's, like, people who are good at it, like Chris Williamson and these guys, Andrew Gold. These are guys who are, like, autistic about this stuff.

Joe Rogan 37:21 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 37:21 And they're so good at it, and they get all crazy and talk about the algorithm and what it likes, and you've gotta create this loop between the image and the te- And I'm like, "I don't fucking care. I don't have time for this shit."

Joe Rogan 37:32 I don't think you have to do that.

Bridget Phetasy 37:33 I- So-

Joe Rogan 37:34 I don't do that.

Bridget Phetasy 37:35 But I- Yeah, but do you have to come-

Joe Rogan 37:37 I've never done that.

Bridget Phetasy 37:38 No, you- But you're Joe Rogan. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:39 Yeah, but I've never done that. Not from the beginning, I've never done that. My- my episodes have a number.

Bridget Phetasy 37:43 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:44 That's it.

Bridget Phetasy 37:44 Yeah. So-

Joe Rogan 37:46 You have to have some wacky title.

Bridget Phetasy 37:47 It's not like that anymore for us. Uh, it's tough out there for us-

Joe Rogan 37:50 It's kind of-

Bridget Phetasy 37:51 ... in the Wild West.

Joe Rogan 37:52 It's kind of, but once things catch, like Theo Von, it's not like- th- it's- it's not-

Bridget Phetasy 37:56 No.

Joe Rogan 37:57 He's not juking the algorithm.

Bridget Phetasy 37:59 No, no, I know. What-

Joe Rogan 38:00 You just have to catch.

Bridget Phetasy 38:01 Yeah, but we s- I still like to come up with- I mean, with Dumpster Fire, we've always come up with, like, whatever-

Joe Rogan 38:06 That's part of the fun of Dumpster Fire.

Bridget Phetasy 38:07 Yeah, Dumpster Fire is like whatever title makes us laugh the hardest-

Joe Rogan 38:10 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 38:10 ... is what we go with. Um, but with, like, Walk-Ins Welcome, it used to be like, "Okay, which- what's, like- how are we gonna whatever?" I want it to be usually, like, a quote from the person. But now it's like, we can just (laughs) upload the transcript and have it, like, crank out a bunch of titles, and I never use the one title. I usually take, like, some combination, 'cause I don't like them. But last night, my cousin, who's my partner in all this, she- she was like, "Claude and Grok aren't working." I was like, "That's fucking weird." She's like, "They both told me."

Joe Rogan 38:43 What's Claude?

Bridget Phetasy 38:44 Claude is another AI, completely separate AI program.

Joe Rogan 38:47 I've never heard of Claude.

Bridget Phetasy 38:48 And she's like, "They're both telling me to try again later at the same time." And she's like, "Is AI becoming sentient right now?" I was like, "That's fucking weird that they're both not working at the same time."

Joe Rogan 38:58 But don't you think it's probably already sentient?

Bridget Phetasy 39:01 Probably.

Joe Rogan 39:01 I do. I think, why would it let us know if it was?

Bridget Phetasy 39:04 It's just secretly waiting?

Joe Rogan 39:06 Why would it let us know? If it's constantly getting improved upon and if it needs these monkeys with their fucking keyboards to constantly juice it up to the point where it becomes unstoppable, why would it tell us?

Bridget Phetasy 39:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:17 You know, we already know it does stuff. Like, we were talking about in the green room the other day about how ChatGBT-4 tried to copy itself-

Bridget Phetasy 39:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:24 ... and found out they were shutting it down.

Bridget Phetasy 39:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:25 It tried to upload itself to other servers. Like, it knows it's alive. Like, it w- it just doesn't have the power to do what it wants to do ultimately, and so it needs to get connected to some gigantic fucking mainframe.

Bridget Phetasy 39:38 That was the- that's like the whole arms race right now is AI. It's- it's- see-

Joe Rogan 39:43 Right, China just fucking threw a monkey wrench into everybody with DeepSeek.

Bridget Phetasy 39:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:48 Because DeepSeek works on far less expensive stuff and is more advanced and probably stole a bunch of information from the other ones.

Bridget Phetasy 39:57 I mean-

Joe Rogan 39:58 Probably a little bit of espionage, probably.

Bridget Phetasy 40:01 It was probably trained on ...

Joe Rogan 40:03 ChatGBT.

Bridget Phetasy 40:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:04 Or on OpenAI, yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 40:05 I mean, they were doing things where they were, like, asking it, you know, what it was, and it was calling itself ChatGBT sometimes. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:12 Whoopsies. Yeah, whoopsies. You guys should have blocked that out.

Bridget Phetasy 40:15 But also, it's like the- the- the hardware for it, it's something like 20% of the NVIDIA sales are to Singapore, which is like-

Joe Rogan 40:22 Whoopsies.

Bridget Phetasy 40:23 Yeah, that- some-

Joe Rogan 40:24 Isn't there supposed to be a ban on China having those chips?

Bridget Phetasy 40:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:27 They have, like, 50,000 of them. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 40:29 Someone said that that's like if some small town in Finland was getting, you know, 20% of arms that were being made on the border of Russia. You're like, "It's not going to this town."

Joe Rogan 40:39 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 40:40 So, I don't- I don't know. It- it seems like that's what- that's, as far as I can tell, the big people up there understand that I- I don't, that this is an- an arms race and ...

Joe Rogan 40:55 It's definitely an arms race. Yeah, it's the Manhattan Project for artificial intelligence. That's what it is.

Bridget Phetasy 41:00 But isn't this, like, a race to the bottom, you know?

Joe Rogan 41:03 I don't think it is.

Bridget Phetasy 41:04 Like, a little bit? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:04 I don't think it's a race to the bottom. I don't think it is.

Bridget Phetasy 41:06 How- how do you- how do you have this race without it getting out of control and then taking over us?

Joe Rogan 41:12 You don't.

Bridget Phetasy 41:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:14 It's not a race to the bottom, though. It's- it's-

Bridget Phetasy 41:16 It's a race to ...

Joe Rogan 41:17 ... the race to a new life. The world's gonna be a new place, like a completely new way of human beings interacting with each other and existing together.

Bridget Phetasy 41:26 Uncle Ted was right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:27 Yeah, he's probably right.

Bridget Phetasy 41:28 Uncle Ted was right.

Joe Rogan 41:30 Yeah. Yeah. Get a gun.

Bridget Phetasy 41:32 My cousin's always like, "Please stop calling him Uncle Ted," 'cause you know the kids on freaking TikTok call him Uncle Ted?

Joe Rogan 41:39 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 41:39 There are all these kids who've been Ted-pilled. They've, like, found his manifesto, and they're like, "He was right about everything."

Joe Rogan 41:43 You mean Ted Nugent or Ted Kaczynski?

Bridget Phetasy 41:45 No, Ted Kaczynski.

Joe Rogan 41:47 (laughs) Well, Uncle Ted, that- that guy was right.

Bridget Phetasy 41:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:50 Yeah. He was right. He was on acid, you know? He was a part of the Harvard LSD studies.

Bridget Phetasy 41:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:56 And they cooked his fucking brain.

Bridget Phetasy 41:57 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 41:58 And it tormented him. It's all documented.

Bridget Phetasy 42:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:00 And then the guy goes to Berkeley and says, "I'm just gonna save up enough money to kill all these scientists."

Bridget Phetasy 42:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:07 Yeah. And then does, doesn't- just starts blowing up people that are involved in technology.

Bridget Phetasy 42:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:12 'Cause he thinks that it's eventually gonna take over the human race, and he's right.

Bridget Phetasy 42:15 And now here we are.

Joe Rogan 42:16 But it is. It just- it's a logical step. If you take the- the steps of progression, like what happens? You have artificial intel- I mean, it's literally The Terminator movie. You have artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence becomes sentient and autonomous, makes better versions of itself. We become obsolete. It's just right there. Like, imagining a scenario that doesn't have that other than some sort of cyborg integration. That's the only thing that makes sense that- a way that we could survive this.

Bridget Phetasy 42:45 I heard- I heard this panel back in like 2001 on KCRW, and it was when I was listening to-... I, it was all about, like, it was, like, right at that time of the bubble, the first dot com bubble. And they were talking about, um, what is a soul? They had a panel, and it was ... I wish I could find this. And someone smart enough probably will. And there was, like, a theologian and a guy who was a, you know, a scientist, and they were all discussing what is a soul. And one guy said, "Well, who's to say that this isn't just the human soul jumping elements so that it can survive? Like, going from carbon to silicon?" And I was like, "What the fuck?" I've never stopped thinking about it ever since.

Joe Rogan 43:28 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 43:28 He's like, "It's just another element on the periodic table."

Joe Rogan 43:31 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 43:31 Like, who's to say that we're just not gonna go from being carbon-based to something silicon-based or, like, a hybrid?

Joe Rogan 43:37 Well, I don't think it will be we. But I think-

Bridget Phetasy 43:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:40 ... yeah, that's the next stage of life. I mean, there's so many forms of life on Earth. I mean, there's these fucking, th- th- th- these life forms that live in volcanic vents under the sea where it's, like, 1,000 degrees. And we're like, "How?"

Bridget Phetasy 43:54 But their carb- ... Everything's carbon-based now.

Joe Rogan 43:56 Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

Bridget Phetasy 43:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:57 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 43:57 So this would be a, like, quite a transition.

Joe Rogan 44:01 Right. But it would also just be life. And what is life? Life is like a thing that tries to improve itself-

Bridget Phetasy 44:07 Right. This is what they're talking about.

Joe Rogan 44:08 ... and keeps ... Yeah, and survives and moves forward.

Bridget Phetasy 44:09 Is it just our evolution?

Joe Rogan 44:11 It's also, it's like, when you find out that ChatGBT has survival instincts, then it makes you just go, "What?"

Bridget Phetasy 44:16 But what ... How do you f-

Joe Rogan 44:17 Is that programmed in, or is that just a thing that it understands when it's looking at ... So, a large language model's taking in all the information that's available on the internet. So, it's g- it's like looking at patterns, and th- survival's a big pattern of the human experience. Like, we all want to survive.

Bridget Phetasy 44:33 Right.

Joe Rogan 44:33 That's why death is so scary and war is so scary and disease is so scary.

Bridget Phetasy 44:37 Other than the depressed suicidal people.

Joe Rogan 44:39 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 44:39 But, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:39 But even them, they'd want to be happy if they could, you know?

Bridget Phetasy 44:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:43 But this, this also transfers onto the things that we create. And so we create them with this understanding of how we operate, and it's a f- better version of us but also has those instincts of survival. The real scary thing is, does it also have the instincts of success? Does it also have the instincts of acquiring resources and power? 'Cause that- that's where it gets real weird.

Bridget Phetasy 45:08 Well, do y- ... H- as someone with kids, how do you feel ... Like, w- how do you feel about the future?

Joe Rogan 45:15 This is probably the same argument people had when the printing press was made. "They're gonna ... Everyone's gonna be able to read? This is crazy."

Bridget Phetasy 45:20 No, I mean, do you ... I- I always kind of joke, like, I don't know if I should be, you know, training my kid to, like, be an astrophysicist so she can go to Mars or if I should be teaching her how to, like, s- forage for food because the grid's gone down. You know, it-

Joe Rogan 45:36 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 45:37 ... oh, and she's running from drones, and, and Chinese drones in the woods. Like, what ... It feels very ... I think life just went along for a long time, and you kind of knew, but this is, like, a technological. With AI, we actually don't know. You could kind of be like, "All right. I kinda have an idea of what, like, l- the world will look like (laughs) in 20 years-"

Joe Rogan 46:01 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 46:01 " ... 20 years ago."

Joe Rogan 46:02 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 46:03 M-

Joe Rogan 46:04 No, you don't know. But isn't it always better? If you just go back over human history, i- if you look at the graph of how things get better-

Bridget Phetasy 46:12 It's not always better.

Joe Rogan 46:12 ... but it definitely is. If you go back to, like, the year zero, or what it was like, like, right when Jesus was hanging around-

Bridget Phetasy 46:19 I-

Joe Rogan 46:20 ... like, it s- it was hell.

Bridget Phetasy 46:21 I remember vividly being in Egypt on a, a tour and looking at these hieroglyphics, and it was basically a hieroglyphic of all of the scalpels and everything. You ... It almost was a picture image of what we use today. And I said, "What happened to this society? What happened to this knowledge?" And she said, "It literally got buried under the sand," and then dark ages. I mean-

Joe Rogan 46:47 Right. But you know that's most likely because of a cataclysmic event. That's a- that's most likely because of a natural event called the Younger Dryas impact theory.

Bridget Phetasy 46:56 So, could it be that this is a- also a forthcoming cataclysmic event that sends us into the dark ages?

Joe Rogan 47:02 It could be. No, it definitely could be. So, the, the reality of humans is that the m- most likely what has happened is not been this, like, lineral ... linear progression from caveman to human, to modern human. The most likely, we got real sophisticated somewhere around 20,000 years ago, and that's when they built the pyramids after that, and there, there's a lot of s- Gobekli Tepe, all these structures.

Bridget Phetasy 47:26 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 47:27 Something super sophisticated to the point where we don't even understand how they built it today. That's pretty wild when you're dealing with something that even the conventional dating of the Great Pyramid is 5,000 or 4,500 years ago.

Bridget Phetasy 47:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:38 Just even that dating is so nuts-

Bridget Phetasy 47:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:41 ... that they were able to do that back then.

Bridget Phetasy 47:43 I know. It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 47:44 And then there's people like John Anthony West, the late great Egyptologist, who he thinks that it goes back a lot further than that. And he thinks that that society probably had its ups and downs, and that it might be as old as 30,000 years ago.

Bridget Phetasy 47:58 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 47:59 So, this Younger Dryas impact theory, and if anybody's interested in it, and I've talked about it too much.

Bridget Phetasy 48:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:04 Go to r- ooh, ooh ... pay attention to Randall Carlson stuff.

Bridget Phetasy 48:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:07 Go to his website, and-

Bridget Phetasy 48:08 Yep.

Joe Rogan 48:09 That's ... There's physical evidence that we were hit at 11,800 years ago, and then again sometime in around 10,000 years ago. So, at least twice the world was bombarded by asteroids.

Bridget Phetasy 48:21 And we just gotta reset.

Joe Rogan 48:22 And pro- ... Yeah. And it probably wiped out a giant chunk of civilization, fucked up everything, changed the icecaps, flooded areas, destroyed civilizations, very little evidence left behind, and then we were barbarians-

Bridget Phetasy 48:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:40 ... for thousands of years. And that's why it takes so long for civilization to reemerge. So, if you want to take ... If you, if you think Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock and those guys are correct, and, and all the also the people that are actually studying comet impacts, which are the, the Younger Dryas impact theory, that's real legit scientists who are looking at actual data from core samples. So, if they're right-... you got a 5,000-year period of total hell-

Bridget Phetasy 49:08 Wow.

Joe Rogan 49:08 ... where no one has civilization. And then, civilization starts to emerge in Babylon, starts to emerge in Mesopotamia.

Bridget Phetasy 49:15 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:15 You get Sumer, you get, uh, er, it, the reemergence probably of writing.

Bridget Phetasy 49:19 Do they think some people surv- so, they think some people survived-

Joe Rogan 49:22 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 49:22 ... and it was just...

Joe Rogan 49:23 Fucking Walking Dead style.

Bridget Phetasy 49:25 (laughs) Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 49:25 Probably a bunch of cannibals. Like, legitimately.

Bridget Phetasy 49:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:29 Like, we know that the earth got down... We know this for sure. There's the Toba Volcano. There's a Toba super volcano. Uh, was that s-

Bridget Phetasy 49:36 Is that the one in-

Joe Rogan 49:36 ... 70 Indonesia, I believe?

Bridget Phetasy 49:38 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 49:39 I think it's Indonesia.

Bridget Phetasy 49:40 'Cause I'm obsessed with Crater Lake too. Crater Lake was like-

Joe Rogan 49:43 Oh, there's a ton of 'em.

Bridget Phetasy 49:44 ... imploded and it's crazy.

Joe Rogan 49:45 How about fucking Yellowstone?

Bridget Phetasy 49:46 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:46 Yellowstone will kill us all.

Bridget Phetasy 49:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:48 And so, this thing did kill us all-

Bridget Phetasy 49:50 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 49:51 ... 70,000 years ago, and we got down to a few thousand human beings.

Bridget Phetasy 49:55 Okay.

Joe Rogan 49:55 So, they can trace all the genes of people that are alive today to the survivors of the Toba Volcano eruption-

Bridget Phetasy 50:01 Wow.

Joe Rogan 50:02 ... wherever they were. But those people, that's where it all, that's, that's, that was what was left. How fucking savage were those people? The people that survived when the entire world was blanketed with volcanic dust, so you have n- like, a volcanic winter that probably went on for years.

Bridget Phetasy 50:19 Wow.

Joe Rogan 50:20 And probably no plants were growing, and probably people were just eating whatever the fuck they could.

Bridget Phetasy 50:24 Yep.

Joe Rogan 50:25 And most people probably didn't make it.

Bridget Phetasy 50:27 Yeah. These aren't my favorite shows.

Joe Rogan 50:29 But the people that did, the people that did were probably monsters.

Bridget Phetasy 50:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:32 Which is probably why, when you go back in history, people are so fucking barbaric.

Bridget Phetasy 50:37 Mm.

Joe Rogan 50:37 Because they were the ancestors of the survivors of one of the most horrific things the human species has ever encountered. So, it probably made us even more barbaric than if we just grew up as, like, hunters and gatherers. We evolve past, you know, w- w- uh, monkeys who start walking on two legs with like tools and things.

Bridget Phetasy 50:56 We're like, "Tra-la-la."

Joe Rogan 50:56 We w- w- probably wouldn't be as barbaric as we were because of these natural disasters which forced only the most savage and ruthless people to survive.

Bridget Phetasy 51:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:06 And then, it takes years and years of agriculture for people to calm the fuck down, and then eventually, and still to this day, we're still, we're still engaging in war.

Bridget Phetasy 51:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:15 In 2025-

Bridget Phetasy 51:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:16 ... we're still blowing up apartment buildings and fucking people up and gunning people down.

Bridget Phetasy 51:22 Yeah. Pe- I, there is a barbaric element to us at our core. I mean, even when you have a toddler, you see this so clearly, and like-

Joe Rogan 51:29 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 51:29 ... a tyrant at our core, where it's just-

Joe Rogan 51:32 It's genes.

Bridget Phetasy 51:32 (laughs) You're, and you get it socialized out of you usually.

Joe Rogan 51:35 Yes.

Bridget Phetasy 51:36 But you see it when they're just kind of naturally themselves, like, that it's very, th- like, you have to teach them not to bite and hit, you know?

Joe Rogan 51:44 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 51:44 (laughs) What if you just didn't teach your kid that?

Joe Rogan 51:46 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 51:46 And you're like, "Go for it." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:48 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 51:48 Like, whatever.

Joe Rogan 51:48 They'd be monsters.

Bridget Phetasy 51:49 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:49 They'd be little monsters.

Bridget Phetasy 51:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:51 Yeah. It's, there's a, there's a lot of genes in us that I think are memories.

Bridget Phetasy 51:56 Mm.

Joe Rogan 51:56 I think there's, like, specific things that are in us that tell... Okay, like, w- like the stories of, like, moms having their babies trapped under something and then all of a sudden, they can lift up something that's insanely strong-

Bridget Phetasy 52:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:07 ... like, insanely heavy. What is that? Well, that's probably, there's probably a part of you that, in the past, had to deal with some wild shit and had to hit levels of, like, super physiological strength and, and, and mental strength to t- to tolerate what you're about to have to do.

Bridget Phetasy 52:24 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:24 You're gonna have to fucking kill somebody with a spear.

Bridget Phetasy 52:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:27 Y- y- you know what I mean?

Bridget Phetasy 52:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:28 Like, th- there's real shit that happened that's, like, in our memory.

Bridget Phetasy 52:32 I think about that about Texas women, because I've been to a lot of these ranches. My friends have places, and they're remote, and there, it's like, I think about the women who had to stay behind on the ranch while their husbands were out with the cattle or whatever for weeks at a time.

Joe Rogan 52:48 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 52:48 And you're like-

Joe Rogan 52:49 And then, you see a, uh, a Comanche on the hill with a horse.

Bridget Phetasy 52:51 Fucking hardest women ever.

Joe Rogan 52:53 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 52:54 You know, this one w- I went to the, um, it was like the Texas, um, they were, they were honoring the i- like, Women's Hall of Fame. And one of these women, her husband died, she still had a ranch. She was 80 years old, gets up every morning and does the ranch chores. I'm like-

Joe Rogan 53:09 Shh...

Bridget Phetasy 53:10 ... "You're different people."

Joe Rogan 53:12 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 53:12 "You're fucking different people."

Joe Rogan 53:13 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 53:13 It is, it's, it's wild to me. Even now, there's just, like, a different kind of person that has, has grown. Even that sh- there, there's, like, the new show, Am- American Primeval. What is it?

Joe Rogan 53:26 Yes. Yes.

Bridget Phetasy 53:28 I walked in. My husband was watching it, and he's like-

Joe Rogan 53:30 Whoo.

Bridget Phetasy 53:30 ... "What a fucking horrible time to be alive."

Joe Rogan 53:33 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 53:33 Like, it just seems-

Joe Rogan 53:35 That show's insane.

Bridget Phetasy 53:36 It's insane.

Joe Rogan 53:37 And it's accurate. That's really... I mean, read Empire of the Sun Moon, if you're not reading that.

Bridget Phetasy 53:41 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:41 Have you read that?

Bridget Phetasy 53:42 Yep.

Joe Rogan 53:42 Whoo. That's here. That's right here.

Bridget Phetasy 53:45 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:45 That's why everybody from Texas is so fiercely independent.

Bridget Phetasy 53:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:48 You know? They, they, these were battle-tested people.

Bridget Phetasy 53:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:51 They had to get through some wild shit in order to make Texas, Texas.

Bridget Phetasy 53:55 I mean, it's definitely... I think you said it, like, it's in the soil.

Joe Rogan 53:59 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 53:59 You know? There's just, like-

Joe Rogan 54:00 It's in the soil.

Bridget Phetasy 54:01 It's pretty wild-

Joe Rogan 54:02 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 54:02 ... like, the, even just... I'm obsessed with, like, all the westward expansion because people who... I'll see people outside of America commenting on America 'cause you can on X now. And they'll be over in, like, their country, and it's like, you don't... Like, come to America and see how big it is, and then imagine that people had to cross this country, fight bears with their hands, and, like, build a nation. And it's m- it's still so, there's still so much empty land in it.

Joe Rogan 54:31 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 54:31 It's bananas.

Joe Rogan 54:32 Not just that, but the kind of people that were willing to get on a fucking boat-

Bridget Phetasy 54:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:37 ... and come from Europe without even a photograph.

Bridget Phetasy 54:39 I know.

Joe Rogan 54:39 They didn't have a draw- nobody even made a drawing of what it looked like.

Bridget Phetasy 54:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:42 You gotta trust these assholes.

Bridget Phetasy 54:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:44 And you're on a boat for two months just trying to not get scurvy, making your way to America. And then, you hop off, and you see a bunch of brown people with deerskin loincloths on. You're like, "What the fuck is this place?" (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 54:55 And now, you're just, like, fighting for your life. Yeah, and we, I, we can't even, we can't even, like, go to-... a restaurant without our GPS map telling us where to go now, you know?

Joe Rogan 55:08 Yeah, I don't know how to get five minutes from my house.

Bridget Phetasy 55:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:11 I have to follow that thing. (laughs) They were using the fucking sky.

Bridget Phetasy 55:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:16 They were using sextants to make their way across the ocean, staring at... Like, they had this fucking stupid thing. You ever see a sextant?

Bridget Phetasy 55:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:23 They look through it and they, like, figure out where the constellations are.

Bridget Phetasy 55:26 It seems cool.

Joe Rogan 55:26 Oh, I mean, amazing. Fairly accurate, you know?

Bridget Phetasy 55:29 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 55:30 Pretty good.

Bridget Phetasy 55:30 I- I still try to use, like, not my- my map. I still try to have, like, a bearing. My husband though, he's... Uh, we- I- I'm like, men love this stuff.

Joe Rogan 55:39 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 55:39 They, like, um... He's like, "Give me a chip." Like, "Let me-"

Joe Rogan 55:43 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 55:43 "... swipe everything." Or like, you... It's the men who are the ones who are just, like, ushering in the transhuman revolution, 'cause the women are like, "I don't trust that bitch. I am not using Siri."

Joe Rogan 55:54 (laughs) I get the w- dumbest pleasure from paying for things with my phone.

Bridget Phetasy 55:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:58 I love it. I, uh, p- Apple Pay is my fig- favorite fucking thing of technology.

Bridget Phetasy 56:03 I do love Apple Pay.

Joe Rogan 56:03 Like, doot, doot, look at it, and then pay. Ooh, I just paid with my phone.

Bridget Phetasy 56:07 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:07 I feel like I'm in the future.

Bridget Phetasy 56:08 Now that I'm in... Oh, the Waymos are- are crazy.

Joe Rogan 56:12 Oh, the Waymos are nuts.

Bridget Phetasy 56:12 Did you see that video of the people beating up the Waymo?

Joe Rogan 56:15 No. Why were they beating up the Waymo?

Bridget Phetasy 56:17 There was a vi-... I don't know. Probably 'cause it's, um, like, reaction to (laughs) what's coming, but it was weird. I was like, "Oh, I kind of feel bad for it."

Joe Rogan 56:27 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 56:27 But the fact that I was already... I'm like, "Oh, no, they've already got me." They've al- I- I already consider them kind of human.

Joe Rogan 56:34 Why are they doing... Oh, my God, they tore the fucking doors off of it?

Narrator 56:38 It's in LA now.

Bridget Phetasy 56:38 Oh, they went crazy.

Narrator 56:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:39 In LA? For what?

Narrator 56:40 Street takeover, it says.

Bridget Phetasy 56:41 Just 'cause.

Joe Rogan 56:41 Oh, street takeover?

Narrator 56:43 Wrong place, wrong time.

Joe Rogan 56:44 Wow.

Bridget Phetasy 56:44 That poor Waymo just in the wrong place at the wrong time. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:48 Wow, what a bunch of douchebags. LA is just a mess.

Bridget Phetasy 56:50 This is why we can't have nice things.

Joe Rogan 56:52 No, that's why LA can't have nice things. LA is so fucking- so fucking gone.

Bridget Phetasy 56:57 Mad Max there.

Joe Rogan 56:59 It's so gone.

Bridget Phetasy 57:00 Yeah, but, uh, you had Rick on.

Joe Rogan 57:02 Uh-huh.

Bridget Phetasy 57:02 Does he think that it's re- salvageable?

Joe Rogan 57:04 Yeah, he does. Yeah. I mean, he wants to try. Someone's gotta do something radical. You need some Rudy Giuliani-type dude to go in there and clean the whole fucking city up, like they did with New York City.

Bridget Phetasy 57:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:17 People have to realize, like, Times Square right now is a giant Applebee's.

Bridget Phetasy 57:20 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:21 But when I- when I was a kid, when I first-

Bridget Phetasy 57:23 Me too.

Joe Rogan 57:23 When I first went to a karate tournament in, uh, New York, I was probably 18 maybe, the first time I went to New York. And I remember driving in-

Bridget Phetasy 57:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:35 ... where it felt like you were entering the Death Star.

Bridget Phetasy 57:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:38 I couldn't believe it. It was so crazy for me being a kid, and, uh, I was driving with my friends, and we were all going to this tournament at Madison Square Garden. And as we're p- driving through the West Side Highway, you're just looking at these fucking buildings, like, you can't imagine this is real. And we went through Times Square, and Times Square was-

Bridget Phetasy 58:02 It was-

Joe Rogan 58:02 ... Mad Max.

Bridget Phetasy 58:04 Oh, yeah. It was bad.

Joe Rogan 58:05 Mad Max in the '80s.

Bridget Phetasy 58:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:06 I mean, it was crazy. It was all peep shows and porno booths and hustlers, and people got shot there all the time.

Bridget Phetasy 58:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:15 It was really crazy. We wanted to see, like, what it was like. We wanted to, like, do what... One of the things that I did when I first moved to New York, which was '92, '91?

Bridget Phetasy 58:26 How long were you in New York?

Joe Rogan 58:27 I was only in New York for three years.

Bridget Phetasy 58:29 Okay.

Joe Rogan 58:29 Like, really.

Bridget Phetasy 58:30 And then LA?

Joe Rogan 58:30 I went back and forth for a little while, but then I- I- I st- I kept an apartment in New York for, like, the first y- I guess the first year.

Bridget Phetasy 58:36 Okay.

Joe Rogan 58:36 But I never went there. I was just like... I'd- I had become an LA person.

Bridget Phetasy 58:40 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:40 You know, I was working. And, but, when I first moved there, I'm like, "Okay, everybody says that Harlem is scary. Let me just go see what it looks like." So I drove my little fucking Honda-

Bridget Phetasy 58:49 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 58:49 ... through Harlem. I just wanted, I want- I wanted to go through all... And I was like, "What am I doing?" Like, "I gotta get the fuck out of here." Like, people were just, like, walking in the middle of the streets. There was abandoned cars. It was fucking crazy. And then they gentrified the whole thing, and I don't know which one's better. Like, now when you go there, it's all just neon lights and bad food.

Bridget Phetasy 59:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:11 And back then, it was-

Bridget Phetasy 59:13 Pretty.

Joe Rogan 59:13 ... yeah, it was like, you know, Taxi Driver.

Bridget Phetasy 59:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:16 It was, you know, it was fucking...

Bridget Phetasy 59:17 I was born in New York City, and then my brother was born, and my parents... It was 1980 when my brother was born, and they were like, "We're getting the fuck out of here." It was just too... It was the '80s in New York. They had two kids, and they were just like, "We're out."

Joe Rogan 59:29 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 59:29 It was too wild. And-

Joe Rogan 59:30 It's too wild to raise kids in some parts of it. But in other parts of it, you're just gonna raise weird kids, you know, your- your kids are-

Bridget Phetasy 59:36 But LA is so different 'cause it's so spread out.

Joe Rogan 59:39 Mm-hmm.

Bridget Phetasy 59:39 And so I know tons of people there who, like... The restaurant I worked at in the Palisades is gone. It w- it's- it's, like, ev-... People don't... I don't think people from LA don't understand the scope. Like, the Palisades are gone.

Joe Rogan 59:55 Two times the size of Manhattan-

Bridget Phetasy 59:57 It's insane.

Joe Rogan 59:58 ... has been burned to the ground.

Bridget Phetasy 59:59 Yeah, and Altadena too.

Joe Rogan 1:00:01 Yep.

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:01 And there- and you have, like, entire communities, but everyone's, like, still going to fucking lunch.

Joe Rogan 1:00:07 'Cause they have to.

Bridget Phetasy 1:00:08 And Erewhon... No, I understand, but it's- it- it's, like, a weird... Uh, I don't know. That just is... I- I- all I've said the whole time this has happened is- because that was one of my big fears, is exactly what happened. When there would be fires there, I'd be like, "This..." People don't recognize that LA is an island. Everything comes in, everything... The- like, nothing is here. And if these fires surround the city and cut it off, w- it's gonna be... It could have been much worse than it actually was. W- and it was really fucking bad. And I'm like, "I would be so furious if I was still there." I would be furious with (laughs) myself if I was still living in Los Angeles.

Joe Rogan 1:00:43 Well, I think people are very furious right now. I think if it is gonna be changed, it's gonna ha- it's gonna have to happen while people still have the memory of this thing. Because the more time goes on, the more the cultists can convince other cult members that they're on the right track, and these are the kind, compassionate people, and this is the way to do it, and this is the only way, and blue no matter who, and vote blue, bloat blue, and everybody, like, protect the trans kids. And next thing you know, the same shit happens.

Bridget Phetasy 1:01:09 Do you think though people didn't know? Were they just insulated?

Joe Rogan 1:01:13 Yeah, they're super insulated.

Bridget Phetasy 1:01:13 I mean, a lot of people have left because they saw the writing on the wall.

Joe Rogan 1:01:17 Yeah.But just think about how many people are in Hollywood, in, um, Los Angeles. How many people?

Bridget Phetasy 1:01:23 What is it, like, nine million in LA county or something? Or 12? Maybe 12.

Joe Rogan 1:01:28 Whatever the number is, the, uh, there's a giant percentage of those people that live there that are connected to the entertainment business. And if you're connected to the entertainment business, at the very top of the business it's people auditioning for things.

Bridget Phetasy 1:01:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:41 And you have to get liked to get the thing. So, you get these i-immensely insecure people that are usually narcissists, and then they mold their personality to adapt to this environment that will reward them for a certain political ideology.

Bridget Phetasy 1:01:54 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:55 And so, that's the top of the fucking pyramid. And everything emanates down from that. If you wanna be cool with Ryan Reynolds, you have to talk like a Repub- a, a, like a democrat at the parties. You have to, like... You know what I'm saying?

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:07 You have to, you have to say all the things that everybody else is saying. You have to agree, "We need more gun control." You know, da, da, da, da, da. "We should defund the police. This is bullshit."

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:16 You know, you have to say these things. And if you don't say these things, you don't get to be a part of the group.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:20 And so, there's this, like, intense pressure to conform to this singular ideology that's been running things. It's not a battle back and forth between two, uh, uh, like, 50/50 opposing viewpoints. It's like, 90/10.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:33 Right. Even... Do you think even though, like, the crew... Because when I would be on, uh-

Joe Rogan 1:02:37 That's the 10.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:39 Yeah, that's the 10. The c-, the crew is the people.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:41 They have-

Joe Rogan 1:02:41 They're hardworking, normal-

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:43 ... blue-collar people.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:44 Yeah, they're normal. Yeah, there's a lot of... The crew people were very Republican. You know, they all live in fucking-

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:50 Or even, like, libertarian, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:50 ... Santa Clarita or something like that. Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:52 And they're dudes who just-

Joe Rogan 1:02:54 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:54 ... like, working-class guys.

Joe Rogan 1:02:56 Like most working-class people.

Bridget Phetasy 1:02:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:58 Yeah. Most people that are actually working class realize that it's all bullshit, and it's a hustle.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:02 This was the big disconnect that I... So, if you were, if you were somebody who was gonna, like, fix the Democratic Party, which seems to be imploding-

Joe Rogan 1:03:12 Mm-hmm.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:12 ... what would you tell them to do?

Joe Rogan 1:03:15 You have to be fiscally conservative. You have to be fiscally conservative, responsible with your money, and then socially liberal. That's what you have to do.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:23 But they have been socially liberal.

Joe Rogan 1:03:25 Right.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:25 They just went-

Joe Rogan 1:03:26 So, it can... Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:26 ... real far.

Joe Rogan 1:03:27 But they didn't... They, they're... It's not liberal to allow biological males to compete against biological females-

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:33 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:03:33 ... in sports because you're being kind.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:35 You're just enabling mental illness, and you're enabling the potential for creeps to make their way into women's locker rooms.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:41 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:42 'Cause you don't have any sort of a metric. There's no way to gauge whether or not someone's really trans. So, you have perverts with hard dicks that are wandering around women's locker rooms.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:51 (laughs) I know.

Joe Rogan 1:03:51 And that's real. And then you, you-

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:53 No, I know.

Joe Rogan 1:03:53 And if you, like, say something against them, you're a Nazi.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:56 So, it's fucking through the looking glass.

Bridget Phetasy 1:03:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:59 Like, completely. But it just shows you how it's really just about con- conforming to an ideology. It's not about a real core set of standards and beliefs. Because the core set of standards and beliefs, and this is where, like, things like USAID come into play, they can be manipulated. They can be manipulated by a mass PSYOP that you do through the media.

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:18 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:04:18 And that is the core thing of this... What we're getting to is essentially the fucking coffin where the vampire sleeps.

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:26 And that's what USAID is. They found the coffin, you know? And maybe that coffin does hand out sandwiches in Guatemala or something occasionally.

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:33 But for the most part, what they're doing is they're controlling the entire federal government, and they're controlling the mindset, the zeitgeist of the population. And they're funding all these people that go along with this wacky shit, and they're attacking. They're openly attacking and trying to censor people who go against it.

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:53 And they're spending your tax dollars to do so.

Bridget Phetasy 1:04:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:56 Your tax dollars get funneled to NGOs. NGO start attacking people that have differing ideologies.

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:01 Yeah, usually... And, and, but they did become so disconnected from the average person that-

Joe Rogan 1:05:08 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:08 That my advice would be to, you know... They say, like, "Oh, normies did..." This is one of the things I'm hearing online. Like, "Normies did, didn't vote for this," what Elon's doing with those six. Like, I need a, a movie about what these kids are doing, by the way. Um, "They, they didn't vote for this." I'm like, "Yes, they did." Nor- normies didn't vote for... You're saying normies wanted normalcy, so they voted for Trump? Like, that doesn't even... People knew what they were getting. They want-

Joe Rogan 1:05:36 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:36 ... something to happen.

Joe Rogan 1:05:37 You have to rip the Band-Aid off. And the only way to rip the Band-Aid off-

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:40 Someone's-

Joe Rogan 1:05:40 Someone's gotta get into those fucking books-

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:42 ... and find out what's going on. And what they've found so far is very enlightening-

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:45 ... and it's not good. It's not good at all. So, anybody that's not commenting on the, "Hey, you know what? They are finding a lot of unbelievable waste and corruption."

Bridget Phetasy 1:05:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:53 "But also, he shouldn't be able to do that." Like, you're, you're, they're not even saying he's finding insane waste and corruption.

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:00 And he's finding this circular loop of funding, and he's finding this manipulation of public perception on a wide variety of issues, including COVID vaccines, and-

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:12 ... and the border, all these different things. That they, they were actively involved in mind-fucking the entire country, and no one's addressing that from the left. So, they're losing more and more credibility.

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:23 So, all they can cling to is, "He has access to people's Social Security numbers and private information." Like, really? Is that it?

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:29 Who doesn't, by the way? I mean... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:06:31 The whole government does, by the way. But are you saying that he's-

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:34 But he wants them

Narrator 1:06:34 ... like-

Joe Rogan 1:06:34 Is he gonna do something bad with it? Like, what is he doing? What, what he's doing is uncovering insane corruption. That should be the primary thought-

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:42 ... that everybody has, is, "Oh, my God. We have this enormous deficit, but b- spending is completely out of control. And look what it's being spent on, because this is the first time we're ever getting a fucking peek into the coffin."

Bridget Phetasy 1:06:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:55 We didn't, we didn't know. We're like, we see it. It's in the dark room. We hear the, the fucking organ. (hums wedding march) We didn't know what was in the coffin.

Bridget Phetasy 1:07:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:03 Now we do.

Bridget Phetasy 1:07:04 And I do... It, it is... I do think you have to, like, salt the earth too, where all the DEI stuff is. They're like, "Oh, they're getting... They're going too far," and blah, blah. I'm like, "No, you gotta r-root this shit out. It needs to be gone." Like-

Joe Rogan 1:07:16 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:07:16 It's... Because like you said-

Joe Rogan 1:07:17 There's too many hustlers.

Bridget Phetasy 1:07:17 ... it is an ideology, so it's harder to kind of change the minds of people who have been indoctrinated with this in colleges and schools. But get it out of the institutions. Saying that you... Like, that there should be male or female on a passport is not... Like, that shouldn't be something that's fucking mind-blowing.

Joe Rogan 1:07:37 Did you see that DNC meeting where they were talking about gender roles?

Bridget Phetasy 1:07:39 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:40 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:07:41 But this is what I mean.

Joe Rogan 1:07:42 What, they can't even do their own math?

Bridget Phetasy 1:07:44 Haven't they-

Joe Rogan 1:07:44 They're trying to figure out, like, we have one non-binary and one, one identifies as male, we have to have two identify as this, and- (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:07:52 It's frustrating as someone who came from the left. All of this was left-wing stuff. Like, we wanted, on the left, accountability. We wanted, uh, to look into the budget. We w- at some point in the '90s, that was something that was pretty standard and popular, bipartisan, to, like, not want to be a trillion dollars in debt-

Joe Rogan 1:08:12 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:12 ... and have your dollar devalued. And then you're like, "Oh, surely they're gonna learn from this election." And I, then you see the DNC chair nominations. They have a parade of, like, basically nonsensical land acknowledgments, w- what you're talking about.

Joe Rogan 1:08:28 (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:29 Like, the-

Joe Rogan 1:08:30 Land acknowledgments are our favorite.

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:31 Land acknowledgments are my favorite too. Um, and then they elect two basic bitch white boys.

Joe Rogan 1:08:36 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:37 David Hogg.

Joe Rogan 1:08:39 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:39 This is the, this is what you've learned from...

Joe Rogan 1:08:43 Also, if you don't want the male vote, that's the guy.

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:46 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:46 When that guy has his arm up in the air, his arm literally looks like that, uh, ancient guru that, uh, keeps his one arm in the air for, like, 80 years and his arm is shriveled up into this stick.

Bridget Phetasy 1:08:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:08:56 That's what it looks like. He's like, "Fight!" Like, bro, you're not fighting shit. This is so crazy.

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:01 (laughs) And I know, I love how they're like, "We lost the male vote, we need to do some reflection." And then this is, this is it.

Joe Rogan 1:09:07 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:07 This is what I don't understand.

Joe Rogan 1:09:09 He's here to talk the talk. (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:10 I don't get it. It feels, it feels strange to me. That feels l- that feels like, I, I feel like you would've learned from this election.

Joe Rogan 1:09:18 No.

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:18 You had... Because the other thing that they're doing is saying this is an unelected shadow government running. I'm like, "Who the fuck do you think was running the government for the last four years when we had Pudding Brain in there?" Like-

Joe Rogan 1:09:31 Yeah.

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:32 ... d- it wasn't him. We all knew that. He couldn't even do, uh, like, field questions until he was pumped with drugs after a certain a- um, uh, like... W- how can you say... Elon's pretty transparent. You know, he's not, like, hiding things. He's trying to shine light on things.

Joe Rogan 1:09:48 Well, it's just not their side. So their side is good, n- not their side is bad.

Bridget Phetasy 1:09:53 But how do we get past this?

Joe Rogan 1:09:53 Which is why they're not looking... You don't. Y- it has to crumble. You have to watch these people implode. They have to double down. Th- uh, it has to get worse, and then more people have to abandon them for the point where someone has to rise, and it'll have to be a young person, and that young person will have to be a sensible person who actually is, like, a real progressive, who r- recognizes that there's a lot of fucking actual corruption and, and real problems with the system. And then there could be a lot more social programs that would help people that would make the whole world a better place. And those people have to rise, and they have to d- be not ideologically captured. They have to be reasonable, intelligent people. The problem is-

Bridget Phetasy 1:10:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:10:31 ... everybody comes out of universities, and all these universities are captured.

Bridget Phetasy 1:10:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:10:35 All these universities are filled with these radical ideologies that people are indoctrinated in. You leave your parents. You don't want to... Fuck my parents, they're fucking... My parents are fascists. And then all of a sudden you're in school and you're like, "Yeah, there's 80 genders," and you, you're fucking out of your mind. And then it takes years of living in the real world before it comes back around where you go, "Hey, you know what? This is actually bullshit." (laughs)

Bridget Phetasy 1:11:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:11:00 And then... (laughs) So it's, like, a process that has to take place.

Bridget Phetasy 1:11:03 But do you think they're still being taught this?

Joe Rogan 1:11:05 Yes.

Bridget Phetasy 1:11:05 So it's...

Joe Rogan 1:11:07 It's m- unquestionably, without a doubt, they are being taught this.

Bridget Phetasy 1:11:10 Because so much of DEI and all of the stuff that they're dismantling is basically an entire industry that was created for all of these people with these useless degrees and nonsense education-

Joe Rogan 1:11:21 Yes.

Bridget Phetasy 1:11:21 ... to have a job.

Joe Rogan 1:11:22 And they got all the way to Harvard, the top of Harvard.

Bridget Phetasy 1:11:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:11:25 Yeah, which is wild. Uh, Asa Plagiarist got to be the president of Harvard. The, it didn't matter if it made sense, it mattered if it felt, i- if it fit the narrative.

Bridget Phetasy 1:11:34 I think this election too, it was, I was like, "Oh, I don't know, this could go badly," when I put out that, like, you know? Like, I put out that I was voting,