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Joe Rogan Experience #2270 - Bridget Phetasy

Bridget Phetasy is a writer and stand-up comedian. She hosts the show “Dumpster Fire" and also the podcast “Walk-Ins Welcome.” http://www.phetasy.com

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Feb 10, 20252h 48mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 0:13

    Cold open and tone-setting banter

    1. JR

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

    4. BP

      You're a whore.

  2. 0:13 – 2:13

    Ambition, gratitude, and the trap of chasing “more” (plus billionaire perspective)

    1. JR

      All right. This is the thing is no one's happy with just being, like, a little successful. You get a little successful and then they wanna get more.

    2. BP

      Is that everyone, though?

    3. JR

      I don't know. Is that you, Bridget?

    4. BP

      I'm- I'm- I'm a little successful.

    5. JR

      That's it. (laughs)

    6. BP

      And I'm happy.

    7. JR

      Yeah. Uh, it's like... I don't know. You just gotta find why you're doing it. You- you don't wanna just be on a hamster wheel.

    8. BP

      Well, I think it's easy to get lost in chasing more. You know?

    9. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    10. BP

      Like, I'm- I'm an addict, so it's very... I try to stay away from analytics and all that stuff, because I can become hyper-focused and obsessed with them.

    11. JR

      Oh, right.

    12. BP

      And one of the reasons that... After I did, um... Who was it? I was opening for Lando, and I- we would go out and just talk to the people after the show. And it was- it was a- a- they were like, "Oh my gosh, I love Walk & Talk," and, "I love Dumpster Fi-" And that was, like, such a good reminder that you get- like, chasing numbers, and it was like, "Oh, no. These are not just numbers, they're people."

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. BP

      Unless you're like buying bots. But I think it can be easy to just be- get on that hamster wheel and start being like, "We need more, we need more downloads. We need more." And-

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. BP

      ... more, more, more. And then you forget and I never wanna take the audience we have for granted.

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. BP

      You know? Like they're- they're amazing. They're- they've been with- some of these people have been with me for forever.

    19. JR

      That's kind of the key to it all, right? Is always have... I mean, it sounds so corny because it's such a good new wellness way of looking at things. Have gratitude.

    20. BP

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      Always have gratitude. But gratitude is, like, very important. It's really important to- to be thankful for what you have.

    22. BP

      Yeah. And it w- it was- it was one of the key things in getting sober. I think when I've dealt with, like, anxiety, depression, other things in my life, gratitude is- it is a powerful mechanism for sh- like, shifting your- your perspective because you can get into that feeling of, like, not being enough, not having enough, not-

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. BP

      ... it never being enough. And-

  3. 2:13 – 6:14

    Yes-men, comedians’ “ego-check” culture, and why successful people can be weird

    1. JR

      Well, Bryan Callen was telling me about his buddy who's a billionaire. His buddy's worth like three billion dollars, and he feels like he's poor-

    2. BP

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      ... because he's friends with people who have $100 billion.

    4. BP

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      Like, imagine.

    6. BP

      No, I mean, this- when I was dating this very wealthy guy who is, like, probably half of a billionaire. Ha- you know, ha- like, five hundred millionaire. And we were in Saint-Tropez and he w- we- he felt poor.

    7. JR

      (laughs)

    8. BP

      (laughs) He... I remember being- I remember it so vividly.

    9. JR

      (laughs)

    10. BP

      I was in the shower and he- he loved me 'cause I was like this, like, poor backpacker that was, like, en- entertaining.

    11. JR

      Bohemian. Yeah.

    12. BP

      Yeah. He's like, "Look at this entertaining..."

    13. JR

      "She's an artist."

    14. BP

      (laughs)

    15. JR

      (laughs)

    16. BP

      He wanted me to be like his pet monkey, like came around.

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. BP

      And just, like, made him laugh. And I gave him shit and I think guys like that are used to be- you get surrounded by yes-men too, at a certain...

    19. JR

      Oh yeah, for sure.

    20. BP

      And you don't have people, like, taking the piss outta you. And so I would make fun of him for his boring stories about his mattresses that people would sit there... I'm like, "Why are you guys listening to this guy talk about a mattress for an hour?" And he was- I was in the shower and he was talking about how he and his friends got together, and he's like, "You know, we sat around and we were talking," and he's- and there's a certain level at which you can be happy no matter what. And I thought I'd been rubbing off on him. Like, oh, my yogi spirituality has run- rubbing off on him. (laughs)

    21. JR

      What did he get to, like, $10 billion?

    22. BP

      And he- no, he goes, "And it's $250 million."

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. BP

      (laughs) I was like, "What?" I was crying with happiness. (laughs)

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. BP

      Like, where does that leave the rest of us schmucks?

    27. JR

      Oh.

    28. BP

      By the way.

    29. JR

      That is so funny.

    30. BP

      Like, I'm sitting there in his Carrera marble freaking shower. (laughs)

  4. 6:14 – 9:11

    Michael Malice, anarchy arguments, and a detour into self-defense and gun safety

    1. BP

      I- I- I was talking to... I think Malice came on my podcast recently. (laughs)

    2. JR

      He's the best. (laughs) He's the best.

    3. BP

      One of my best friends, truly.

    4. JR

      Is he doing standup now?

    5. BP

      I hope he does.

    6. JR

      I heard he's doing standup. I heard he's gonna do standup-

    7. BP

      Well-

    8. JR

      ... or he's planning on doing standup.

    9. BP

      He wants to, but here's the thing, he probably has to do it at Mothership. Like, he can't be at an open mic where somebody's gonna record.

    10. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    11. BP

      You know?

    12. JR

      Well, the Mothe- he could totally do Mothership open mic.

    13. BP

      Okay. So, we're gonna make that happen.

    14. JR

      We have Sunday and Monday nights-

    15. BP

      Yeah, that's what I said. I was like-

    16. JR

      ... every week.

    17. BP

      ... talk to Joe. (laughs)

    18. JR

      Oh, I'd- I'd let him go up and do a guest spot on one of my shows, fuck it.

    19. BP

      Yeah. (laughs)

    20. JR

      He's funny, man.

    21. BP

      Yeah, he is.

    22. JR

      He's fucking funny. I, when he, when he said that, you know, that viral clip, when, uh, you know, if you, y- you know, y- you know, "You're an ableist."

    23. BP

      Yes.

    24. JR

      And I'm like, "An ableist?"

    25. BP

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      He's like, "She's a retard."

    27. BP

      Yeah. (laughs)

    28. JR

      (laughs)

    29. BP

      He's so quick.

    30. JR

      Oh, it's this timing is excellent.

  5. 9:11 – 11:38

    Podcast culture, comment-war pathology, and X’s monetized outrage

    1. BP

      Oh, so Malice. Anyway, the reason I brought him up, he was talking about how many, he didn't realize how many people in podcasting were mentally ill. (laughs)

    2. JR

      Ah. (laughs) Well, in everything.

    3. BP

      Fa- yeah, in everything.

    4. JR

      But podcasting for sure because, well, there's a lot of people that aren't performers that are in podcasting. I think they're even more mentally ill, because those are the people that are like deep in the fucking social media comments all day and seeing people shit on them and they, they're out of their fucking minds. There's a b- there's a bunch of them that are just off the r- and then you see them-

    5. BP

      They fight all day.

    6. JR

      They fight all day with each other, and you see them over the years get progressively more and more insane, and more and more aggressive to each other.

    7. BP

      Mm-hmm. It seems, it seems exhausting. Also-

    8. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    9. BP

      ... who has time for that? I- I don't understand.

    10. JR

      Not just exhausting, but detrimental. It's a tremendous waste of resources. It's really bad for you mentally. F- like, your own mindset is, it's bad if you're in conflict with someone all the time, especially if you could've avoided it.

    11. BP

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      Because you don't admire yourself if you're doing that. You, there's no way you're like, "Hey, I'm on the right track."

    13. BP

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      There's no fucking way. (laughs) There's no way. You're, you know you're retarded.

    15. BP

      They might be feeling like they're on the right track.

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. BP

      I mean, I think Elon-

    18. JR

      I think they're just on the wheel.

    19. BP

      Elon's we- monetized it now, though. So these guys who are in the comments fighting, they're making, you know, two, three grand a month doing it. (laughs)

    20. JR

      That's a good point. That's a different thing, right? H- h- or how much are people, like, what's the highest earner on X? Like, how much can you make?

    21. BP

      It's so random.

    22. JR

      Can you make a living?

    23. BP

      People are making livings.

    24. JR

      Damn.

    25. BP

      I think you have to be on it constantly.

    26. JR

      Right.

    27. BP

      And not, and some people make a lot of money. When I see them post what they're making, I'm like, "Holy crap, how are you-"

    28. JR

      Like how much?

    29. BP

      I don't know. And it seems to be people who kind of Elon will like, um-

    30. JR

      Boost.

  6. 11:38 – 17:54

    Politico rumor correction → Mike Benz → USAID as slush fund and propaganda engine

    1. JR

      There was a fake talk show that he boosted. Um, the other thing that we should probably tell people is that Politico thing is not true.

    2. BP

      No, I know.

    3. JR

      The $8 million thing. The $8 million is $8 million from all the government organizations from 2016-

    4. BP

      Yep.

    5. JR

      ... to 2024. So, it's an eight-year period. And then, uh, it's a p- there's some kind of wacky premium subscription that you can get from Politico-

    6. BP

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      ... that allows you, like, instantaneous access to the news. You're not just reading the articles, you're like getting the news feeds. I don't know, there's some-

    8. BP

      It's a, it's a, well, it's a lot of places where... There is, look, I'm, I'm of two minds of this. I think we need to be accurate because we do live in a time where it's almost like people don't care about truth at all.

    9. JR

      Right.

    10. BP

      They're i- they're just, they're like, "Ah, whatever. It doesn't matter." It's not even, i- i- it's, uh, indifference to it, you know?

    11. JR

      Right.

    12. BP

      Which is not great. But I do think...... credibility, like, you should care about your own credibility at some-

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. BP

      ... point. But people get rewarded for being shameless so that you can just keep going. The Politico thing is weird because, uh, y- yes, a lot of the stuff that's going out, uh, right now on all of these, like, deep dives that people are doing, they're viral, they're mostly, (laughs) many of them are fake. But also, the c- why is any taxpayer dollar that... It should be zero dollars, right? That's going-

    15. JR

      The person to find-

    16. BP

      ... to this stuff.

    17. JR

      ... the person to search is Mike Benz. Go, go to the Mike Benz Cyber... Is it Mike Benz Cyber? I think that's it, right? Uh, his, his X page. Mike Benz has-

    18. BP

      He's been on this forever.

    19. JR

      Forever.

    20. BP

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      Well, uh, former State Department guy, and he uncovered all this bullshit while he was there. And he is insanely knowledgeable and insanely articulate and so good at expressing exactly how these things fund things and what it is. And it's... What it is, is an enormous slush fund.

    22. BP

      Yeah. (laughs)

    23. JR

      That's what it is.

    24. BP

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      And, uh, unaccountability and money just coming and going and flowing-

    26. BP

      And it's circular.

    27. JR

      ... and it's all... Uh-huh.

    28. BP

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      All circular, donating to the Democrats. The United States government funds them. They donate to the Democratic Party. It's... The whole thing is wild.

    30. BP

      And people can sense this. This is why when they're saying, "Oh, it's..." It, it's like you can sense that there's been a misappropriation of our money, of taxpayer dollars. You know there's fraud in Medicare and Medicaid. Our... It... The American people have sensed this and they feel like there's corruption, but I think they've just hopelessly kind of (laughs) surrendered because you, uh... You're... I'm a middle class mom who works, who has a kid, who, like... It's... You... Who has time to fight this?

  7. 17:54 – 25:25

    Why they backed Trump: free speech fears, trans politics backlash, and media/podcast narratives

    1. JR

      It's just gotten really gross once... Well, Trump was just sort of like the accelerant. He was the gasoline that got thrown on the fire, so we got to see, like, how this thing works.

    2. BP

      I voted for him.

    3. JR

      I did too.

    4. BP

      I came out-

    5. JR

      Well, openly. I j-... I endorsed him. I was like, "This has got to stop. This is, this is crazy."

    6. BP

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      Also, he's not what you guys said he was. He's just not.

    8. BP

      We... I've... I put a video out, like, the Friday before the election 'cause I voted for him, um, early. And I was Hillary in 2016, no one in 2020 and-... Trump in 2024 (laughs) . So, like, I don't care how people vote. When a pe- do whatever you want. I was only being honest and it was w- it was weird to come out and say that as a comedian, because I don't n- think that comedians should really be political. But on the other hand, it felt dishonest because I had been so openly, kind of, torn about voting for him.

    9. JR

      Well, also, if you're a comedian, you have to protect free speech.

    10. BP

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      The- there is no if, ands, or buts about it in- when it comes to this argument. The Biden administration was fucking terrifying for free speech. They were actively attacking people that were posting truth on social media, and attacking them and trying to get their posts removed, including the guy who was the one who was quoted in this fucking book about Kamala Harris, saying that we made it difficult to-

    12. BP

      Oh, yeah.

    13. JR

      ... for her to come on the show. And they told a untrue story about having a bunch of people come down here to do a run through of the set, like they were ready to do it. All bullshit. That was the guy.

    14. BP

      (laughs)

    15. JR

      He was the guy that was emailing Twitter and saying, "How is this post..." Being, like, super aggressive, saying, "Why is this post still up?" Oh, you mean that truthful post?

    16. BP

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      About vaccine injuries and side effects? What the fuck are you talking about?

    18. BP

      Ugh.

    19. JR

      Like that- that was getting very scary.

    20. BP

      Yeah, this is what I said in the video I made about why I voted for him. I was like, there's a couple things. I've interviewed many de-transitioners. Those interviews keep me up at night, they haunt me. What- like, there's too many of them already and one is too many. And I'm-

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. BP

      I think a lot of Americans were like, "We're put- we're putting a stop to this n-" We have to stop this nonsense. It's crazy.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. BP

      We're sterilizing children. The other thing is free speech. And I was like, you know, when we're talking in our weird, like, using that crazy YouTube language that you have to use, like un-alived, and you're- and you're saying, like, the jib jab or whatever, like, to get around.

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. BP

      That's coming from one side.

    27. JR

      100%.

    28. BP

      I'm not go- I'm not using this language that-

    29. JR

      But I think it's coming from one side 'cause that one side is in power. That's my fear. My fear is if the other side was in power and they were influenced by the same amount of money from these companies, they might be doing it too. So, if the right was in control of all the social media companies, are we so naive that we think that they wouldn't be co-opted by giant corporations and they would wanna censor them too? What happened was, it was all the left. So, the tech people, who are, you know, generally they go to universities and they get involved in electronics and technology, and these people are generally left-leaning, right? And if they're doing it in San Francisco, well, the whole culture's left-leaning, right? It's like, not- not even leaning, it's just left, right? If you're- you're a pariah if you're a MAG- you wear a MAGA hat in San Francisco, you're a fucking in-... Maybe today. I bet today-

    30. BP

      I think you can wear them now.

  8. 25:25 – 28:28

    Tech realignment, DOGE, platform power, and the everyday tech wars (phone bubbles, WhatsApp)

    1. BP

      But d- see, this is my question, del-... Wh- I was watching the inauguration and I was, like, seeing all the kind of tech people and I was like, "This is somewhat unsettling." I mean, it's, it's good to see that tech has come around to not-

    2. JR

      They have to.

    3. BP

      They have to. But, um, it also... I worry that it's just because they wanna, like, get into China, or, uh, or... You know, I still worry about-

    4. JR

      Well, there's definitely that. I mean, it's

    5. NA

      Yeah.

    6. BP

      ... with the government. (laughs) You know? Like, they-

    7. JR

      Yeah, that is true.

    8. BP

      For all the, like, yelling we've been doing about tech in cahoots with the government-

    9. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    10. BP

      ... I still think I have to try and be like, "This could go sideways." (laughs)

    11. JR

      Well, also they have to look at it in terms of, like, what Elon is doing, right? So if Elon has aligned himself clearly in a huge way with the right and now is running DOGE, right? The Department of Government Efficiency, and also has X-

    12. BP

      And a meme coin. (laughs)

    13. JR

      That he's turning X into a platform that rivals not just social media platforms, but video platforms like YouTube.

    14. BP

      Mm-hmm.

    15. JR

      Like, they get insane amounts of videos o- o- of views, rather, on videos that are on X and then you can get paid by X.

    16. BP

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      And then they're talking about having some sort of, like, X monetary system, you know, like a We... Doesn't WeChat have something like that? They have money built into it. So what's to stop that motherfucker from having a phone? I keep asking him. I said, "Dude, I've been seeing all these articles about you making a phone." He goes, "I hope I don't have to make a phone. It's very difficult to make a phone."

    18. BP

      He said he wants to make a phone.

    19. JR

      No, he didn't.

    20. BP

      He's... Well, he's polled, would people buy a phone if he made one?

    21. JR

      Yeah. Just to fuck around.

    22. BP

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      But he's not interested in making a phone. He doesn't wanna make a phone.

    24. BP

      Every time Elon fucks around, it ends up happening.

    25. JR

      Well, he could make a phone.

    26. BP

      (laughs)

    27. JR

      He would be the only guy that would break us out of the blue bubble paradigm 'cause, like, I was switching to Android for a while. I was, uh, fucking around with Android. It's hard. It's, it's really hard. One of the, one of the hard things is getting people to start using WhatsApp or something like that. And so, like, people just don't want to use it. You miss a lot of texts.

    28. BP

      Aren't they sue- getting sued for the blue bubble?

    29. JR

      Uh, I think they are in Europe.

    30. BP

      I think it's, like, in... No, I think in Am-... I believe... Is it just in Europe? I thought it was part of an antitrust lawsuit against-

  9. 28:28 – 30:44

    No privacy from the state: Pegasus, scams, account takeovers, and digital paranoia

    1. JR

      So it does off of people's phones. It doesn't for the government. The reality is, the government has access to phones in a way that you can't even imagine. Because if we know about Pegasus and then we know about Pegasus 2, so, um, Gavin de Becker, who's a security expert, explained to me these things and explained to me how they work and the exploit of Pegasus 1 was, you would have to click on a link. Pegasus 2, they just need your phone number.

    2. BP

      Wow.

    3. JR

      That's it.

    4. BP

      Wow.

    5. JR

      So all your encryption is all cute, that's great, but if they can actually see your phone itself, what difference does it make if it's encrypted?

    6. BP

      Right.

    7. JR

      They have access to the phone.

    8. BP

      Right.

    9. JR

      So they see everything. So there's no privacy.

    10. BP

      Yeah, no.

    11. JR

      Not from the state.

    12. BP

      Not f-... I mean, and given how many things I get, like, that I'm being hacked, like-

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. BP

      ... you know, I get a notice every day, like, "Your information."

    15. JR

      Yeah. I get that all the time. Um, I've been getting these, uh, fake ones on X saying that my account-

    16. BP

      Oh, yeah.

    17. JR

      ... is about to get deleted.

    18. BP

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    19. JR

      I'm like, "Bro." (laughs)

    20. BP

      No.

    21. JR

      "I'll just call my friend." Like... (laughs)

    22. BP

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      "You ain't deleting my account. Shut the fuck up." But it's, it's j- trying to get you to click on a link.

    24. BP

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      And a few of my friends have actually been dumbasses and clicked on that link-

    26. BP

      (laughs) Oh, got it.

    27. JR

      ... and then they get hacked.

    28. BP

      (laughs) Yeah. Yeah. And then they're, like, selling Bitcoin on their page or whatever.

    29. JR

      Yeah. They do it to artists too. My friend Suzanne, um, she was doing... Suzanne Santo, talented, amazing musician. She was doing this, uh, Facebook thing and, uh, it was a podcast and they had d- you know, she had to do it, like, over Zoom or whatever. And the guy said, um, "You're not doing it right. Can I, can I have access to your account and I'll just set it up for you? Just sign this." And he sent her this message so she could hand over access so he could set it up, and then immediately went dark, stole her account, gone. Yeah. Like that. Just-

    30. BP

      Did she get it back?

  10. 30:44 – 38:58

    AI influencers, AR glasses, GeoSpy, and the accelerating collapse of practical privacy

    1. BP

      D- what do you think about the AI influencers now? Do you think that will be just a trend or do you think we're ... (laughs) you're giving me that look.

    2. JR

      Yeah. Um-

    3. BP

      I'm not talking about the one. I mean, just-

    4. JR

      That one? That one? (laughs)

    5. BP

      (laughs) Jamie fucking knows who we're talking about.

    6. JR

      The really, the really hot Down syndrome girl? That's a problem. That one's a problem, 'cause like she's like barely Down syndrome. I mean, I, I have, I've dated some girls who are basically retarded.

    7. BP

      (laughs)

    8. JR

      But they just didn't have a problem. They didn't have a chromosome issue.

    9. BP

      So wait, I haven't ... This has not entered my algorithm, but it seems like it's entered everyone else's algorithm.

    10. JR

      It's fake. I'm 90% sure it's fake-

    11. BP

      Is it AI?

    12. JR

      ...'cause these girls, they don't ... Like unfortunately, Down syndrome people, their bodies a lot of times look different.

    13. BP

      Uh-huh.

    14. JR

      And this girl looks like a 10. She looks like, you know, just like as hot as can be.

    15. BP

      Okay.

    16. JR

      She looks like she's fake, and she's dancing around with these big giant boobs.

    17. BP

      (laughs)

    18. JR

      And she's got slight downs with glasses on.

    19. NA

      There is an AI one but they're j- it's based on-

    20. BP

      Why are they doing it?

    21. JR

      Right, but that girl looks different.

    22. NA

      She's real.

    23. JR

      Right. She's real and she's very cute, and s- but she looks like she has Down syndrome. This other girl is like, you know, five foot eight, perfect body, big hips, big ass.

    24. BP

      But why are they doing fake one? Like, uh ...

    25. JR

      Because to get people to pay attention to it. Because it's like the, the forbidden fruit, like ooh, ooh.

    26. BP

      (laughs) Jesus Christ.

    27. JR

      Also, there's a lot of like really dumb dudes who like can't talk to girls, like, "I could probably talk to her." (laughs)

    28. BP

      Oh my God. (laughs) We live in a fucking Black Mirror episode.

    29. JR

      Well, it's gotta be worse than that.

    30. BP

      (laughs) It-

  11. 38:58 – 46:21

    Is AI already sentient? DeepSeek, the AI arms race, and ‘Uncle Ted’ as a warning sign

    1. JR

      But don't you think it's probably already sentient?

    2. BP

      Probably.

    3. JR

      I do. I think, why would it let us know if it was?

    4. BP

      It's just secretly waiting?

    5. JR

      Why would it let us know? If it's constantly getting improved upon and if it needs these monkeys with their fucking keyboards to constantly juice it up to the point where it becomes unstoppable, why would it tell us?

    6. BP

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      You know, we already know it does stuff. Like, we were talking about in the green room the other day about how ChatGBT-4 tried to copy itself-

    8. BP

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      ... and found out they were shutting it down.

    10. BP

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      It tried to upload itself to other servers. Like, it knows it's alive. Like, it w- it just doesn't have the power to do what it wants to do ultimately, and so it needs to get connected to some gigantic fucking mainframe.

    12. BP

      That was the- that's like the whole arms race right now is AI. It's- it's- see-

    13. JR

      Right, China just fucking threw a monkey wrench into everybody with DeepSeek.

    14. BP

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Because DeepSeek works on far less expensive stuff and is more advanced and probably stole a bunch of information from the other ones.

    16. BP

      I mean-

    17. JR

      Probably a little bit of espionage, probably.

    18. BP

      It was probably trained on ...

    19. JR

      ChatGBT.

    20. BP

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      Or on OpenAI, yeah.

    22. BP

      I mean, they were doing things where they were, like, asking it, you know, what it was, and it was calling itself ChatGBT sometimes. (laughs)

    23. JR

      Whoopsies. Yeah, whoopsies. You guys should have blocked that out.

    24. BP

      But also, it's like the- the- the hardware for it, it's something like 20% of the NVIDIA sales are to Singapore, which is like-

    25. JR

      Whoopsies.

    26. BP

      Yeah, that- some-

    27. JR

      Isn't there supposed to be a ban on China having those chips?

    28. BP

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      They have, like, 50,000 of them. (laughs)

    30. BP

      Someone said that that's like if some small town in Finland was getting, you know, 20% of arms that were being made on the border of Russia. You're like, "It's not going to this town."

  12. 46:21 – 57:00

    Civilization isn’t linear: pyramids, Younger Dryas, volcanic bottlenecks, and human brutality

    1. BP

      I remember vividly being in Egypt on a, a tour and looking at these hieroglyphics, and it was basically a hieroglyphic of all of the scalpels and everything. You ... It almost was a picture image of what we use today. And I said, "What happened to this society? What happened to this knowledge?" And she said, "It literally got buried under the sand," and then dark ages. I mean-

    2. JR

      Right. But you know that's most likely because of a cataclysmic event. That's a- that's most likely because of a natural event called the Younger Dryas impact theory.

    3. BP

      So, could it be that this is a- also a forthcoming cataclysmic event that sends us into the dark ages?

    4. JR

      It could be. No, it definitely could be. So, the, the reality of humans is that the m- most likely what has happened is not been this, like, lineral ... linear progression from caveman to human, to modern human. The most likely, we got real sophisticated somewhere around 20,000 years ago, and that's when they built the pyramids after that, and there, there's a lot of s- Gobekli Tepe, all these structures.

    5. BP

      Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

    6. JR

      Something super sophisticated to the point where we don't even understand how they built it today. That's pretty wild when you're dealing with something that even the conventional dating of the Great Pyramid is 5,000 or 4,500 years ago.

    7. BP

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      Just even that dating is so nuts-

    9. BP

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      ... that they were able to do that back then.

    11. BP

      I know. It's crazy.

    12. JR

      And then there's people like John Anthony West, the late great Egyptologist, who he thinks that it goes back a lot further than that. And he thinks that that society probably had its ups and downs, and that it might be as old as 30,000 years ago.

    13. BP

      Oh, wow.

    14. JR

      So, this Younger Dryas impact theory, and if anybody's interested in it, and I've talked about it too much.

    15. BP

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      Go to r- ooh, ooh ... pay attention to Randall Carlson stuff.

    17. BP

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      Go to his website, and-

    19. BP

      Yep.

    20. JR

      That's ... There's physical evidence that we were hit at 11,800 years ago, and then again sometime in around 10,000 years ago. So, at least twice the world was bombarded by asteroids.

    21. BP

      And we just gotta reset.

    22. JR

      And pro- ... Yeah. And it probably wiped out a giant chunk of civilization, fucked up everything, changed the icecaps, flooded areas, destroyed civilizations, very little evidence left behind, and then we were barbarians-

    23. BP

      (laughs)

    24. JR

      ... for thousands of years. And that's why it takes so long for civilization to reemerge. So, if you want to take ... If you, if you think Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock and those guys are correct, and, and all the also the people that are actually studying comet impacts, which are the, the Younger Dryas impact theory, that's real legit scientists who are looking at actual data from core samples. So, if they're right-... you got a 5,000-year period of total hell-

    25. BP

      Wow.

    26. JR

      ... where no one has civilization. And then, civilization starts to emerge in Babylon, starts to emerge in Mesopotamia.

    27. BP

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      You get Sumer, you get, uh, er, it, the reemergence probably of writing.

    29. BP

      Do they think some people surv- so, they think some people survived-

    30. JR

      Yeah.

  13. 57:00 – 1:03:02

    LA as cautionary tale: disorder, fires, and Hollywood’s conformity machine

    1. BP

      Yeah, but, uh, you had Rick on.

    2. JR

      Uh-huh.

    3. BP

      Does he think that it's re- salvageable?

    4. JR

      Yeah, he does. Yeah. I mean, he wants to try. Someone's gotta do something radical. You need some Rudy Giuliani-type dude to go in there and clean the whole fucking city up, like they did with New York City.

    5. BP

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      People have to realize, like, Times Square right now is a giant Applebee's.

    7. BP

      Yeah. (laughs)

    8. JR

      But when I- when I was a kid, when I first-

    9. BP

      Me too.

    10. JR

      When I first went to a karate tournament in, uh, New York, I was probably 18 maybe, the first time I went to New York. And I remember driving in-

    11. BP

      (laughs)

    12. JR

      ... where it felt like you were entering the Death Star.

    13. BP

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      I couldn't believe it. It was so crazy for me being a kid, and, uh, I was driving with my friends, and we were all going to this tournament at Madison Square Garden. And as we're p- driving through the West Side Highway, you're just looking at these fucking buildings, like, you can't imagine this is real. And we went through Times Square, and Times Square was-

    15. BP

      It was-

    16. JR

      ... Mad Max.

    17. BP

      Oh, yeah. It was bad.

    18. JR

      Mad Max in the '80s.

    19. BP

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      I mean, it was crazy. It was all peep shows and porno booths and hustlers, and people got shot there all the time.

    21. BP

      (laughs)

    22. JR

      It was really crazy. We wanted to see, like, what it was like. We wanted to, like, do what... One of the things that I did when I first moved to New York, which was '92, '91?

    23. BP

      How long were you in New York?

    24. JR

      I was only in New York for three years.

    25. BP

      Okay.

    26. JR

      Like, really.

    27. BP

      And then LA?

    28. JR

      I went back and forth for a little while, but then I- I- I st- I kept an apartment in New York for, like, the first y- I guess the first year.

    29. BP

      Okay.

    30. JR

      But I never went there. I was just like... I'd- I had become an LA person.

  14. 1:03:02 – 1:22:13

    Democrats, DOGE/USAID revelations, ‘cry Nazi’ fatigue, and surviving the fake-news era

    1. BP

      This was the big disconnect that I... So, if you were, if you were somebody who was gonna, like, fix the Democratic Party, which seems to be imploding-

    2. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    3. BP

      ... what would you tell them to do?

    4. JR

      You have to be fiscally conservative. You have to be fiscally conservative, responsible with your money, and then socially liberal. That's what you have to do.

    5. BP

      But they have been socially liberal.

    6. JR

      Right.

    7. BP

      They just went-

    8. JR

      So, it can... Yeah.

    9. BP

      ... real far.

    10. JR

      But they didn't... They, they're... It's not liberal to allow biological males to compete against biological females-

    11. BP

      Right.

    12. JR

      ... in sports because you're being kind.

    13. BP

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      You're just enabling mental illness, and you're enabling the potential for creeps to make their way into women's locker rooms.

    15. BP

      Right. (laughs)

    16. JR

      'Cause you don't have any sort of a metric. There's no way to gauge whether or not someone's really trans. So, you have perverts with hard dicks that are wandering around women's locker rooms.

    17. BP

      (laughs) I know.

    18. JR

      And that's real. And then you, you-

    19. BP

      No, I know.

    20. JR

      And if you, like, say something against them, you're a Nazi.

    21. BP

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      So, it's fucking through the looking glass.

    23. BP

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      Like, completely. But it just shows you how it's really just about con- conforming to an ideology. It's not about a real core set of standards and beliefs. Because the core set of standards and beliefs, and this is where, like, things like USAID come into play, they can be manipulated. They can be manipulated by a mass PSYOP that you do through the media.

    25. BP

      Mm-hmm.

    26. JR

      And that is the core thing of this... What we're getting to is essentially the fucking coffin where the vampire sleeps.

    27. BP

      (laughs)

    28. JR

      And that's what USAID is. They found the coffin, you know? And maybe that coffin does hand out sandwiches in Guatemala or something occasionally.

    29. BP

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      But for the most part, what they're doing is they're controlling the entire federal government, and they're controlling the mindset, the zeitgeist of the population. And they're funding all these people that go along with this wacky shit, and they're attacking. They're openly attacking and trying to censor people who go against it.

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