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Joe Rogan Experience #2273 - Adam Curry

Adam Curry is an internet entrepreneur, former MTV VJ, and podcasting pioneer. He is the co-host, along with John C. Dvorak, of the "No Agenda" podcast. http://www.noagendashow.net This episode is brought to you by ZipRecruiter — 4 out of 5 employers who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE at http://ziprecruiter.com/rogan Go to https://www.expressvpn.com/ROGANYT and find out how you can get 4 months of ExpressVPN free!

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Feb 13, 20253h 6mWatch on YouTube ↗

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    (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

    1. AC

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) That's bullshit. I never got it-

    4. AC

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      ... 'til this year. But they, that's what they say.

    6. AC

      That's what they say. You get it within a couple years you get it, and then, all of a sudden, you got it.

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. AC

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      I don't know who the fuck they are, but it's not bad.

    10. AC

      I could hear it the other day. I, I heard it...

    11. JR

      Stuffiness?

    12. AC

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. AC

      I heard Joe moaning.

    15. JR

      Yeah, I had it for, like, four days, I've had stuffiness.

    16. AC

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      But the thing is, like, when I work out, I feel great. The way I can really tell, like, the way I judge whether or not I should even work out is when I get-

    18. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      ... in the sauna, in the cold plunge. If I feel tired and weak when I'm in there-

    20. AC

      Then you know.

    21. JR

      ... then I know something's going on.

    22. AC

      Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

    23. JR

      It's not as simple as allergies.

    24. AC

      So I thought for 10 years I had the Austin allergy. For 10 years. It was so bad. I'd go out to dinner. Even when we moved out to Fredericksburg. We'd come into Austin. I thought it was Austin. Uh, ser-, I was like, "Ah, Austin has given me this." Uh, we'd go out to dinner, start eating, and then, oh, my nose, my eyes, everything just... And I have to always excuse myself, always have to have tissues in my back pocket. Then I got my teeth done, which we talked about, I think-

    25. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    26. AC

      ... the last time I was here. And, uh, um, Maverick, my, uh, periodontist, he did one of these 360 MRIs. He says, "You know, man, you've got some low level infection here, and, uh, that could be responsible for a whole bunch of stuff." Now, I'd had hearing aids for five years, so when he did the initial extraction, uh, I think I took one or two shows off. And then I went back in the studio, put my headphones on, I'm like, "Whoa." I thought I'd hit something, uh, you know, a volume knob or something. Came back because-

    27. JR

      Your hearing came back?

    28. AC

      ... because this was infected, and it was basically clogging up my sinuses and that was affecting the, the, the hearing.

    29. JR

      Jesus.

    30. AC

      (laughs) Yeah. And-

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    Yeah. …

    1. AC

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. AC

      They're in trouble.

    4. JR

      Now they have like a God-fearing-

    5. AC

      Jesus is making a comeback, man.

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. AC

      They're in trouble there.

    8. JR

      You gotta hide now. Go back into the basement-

    9. AC

      And-

    10. JR

      ... of Comet Pan- Pizza.

    11. AC

      It's... (laughs)

    12. JR

      (laughs) Place that doesn't have a basement, by the way.

    13. AC

      We're, we're reliably informed. Um, and I hadn't really watched network television a lot, and there's a lot of commercial breaks, but the first 10 all had a pharmaceutical product, which I'd never heard of, a name I can't remember, and side effects literally included death. I'm like, "What is going on with this?"

    14. JR

      (sighs)

    15. AC

      I'm like, "Ask your doctor." I'm like, "Do I have this? Should I have this? Do I want this? I mean, is this going on with me?" And people are all happy in the commercials. They're like, "Look, my skin looks good, and I'm happy."

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. AC

      "And I have a beautiful family." It's almost like we used to, you know, sell cars. Now they're just selling the pharmaceuticals.

    18. JR

      Well, that will be an interesting thing if RFK Jr. gets in place. If RFK Jr. gets in place and they stop this-

    19. AC

      Advertising.

    20. JR

      ... advertising on... We are one of two countries on Earth that allows-

    21. AC

      New Zealand.

    22. JR

      Yeah, New Zealand, and New Zealand's far more restrictive than us. We should be really restrictive about this because advertising works. You know? And there's advertising that doesn't bother me at all, like Chevrolet Corvette. Vroom, vroom. Uh, I don't want one of those.

    23. AC

      (laughs)

    24. JR

      You know, it's okay.

    25. AC

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      It's fine. But when it can give you bloody diarrhea and suicidal ideology-

    27. AC

      Anal leakage. (laughs)

    28. JR

      Yeah, and you, you're just fucked up in the head and you're depressed-

    29. AC

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      ... and like you don't know why but now your zits are gone. Like, hey.

  3. 30:0045:00

    (clears throat) …

    1. JR

      hiding this-

    2. AC

      (clears throat)

    3. JR

      ... because, because of the sweeping Schedule I Drug Act of 1970 that was put in place directly by Nixon to go after his political opponents. It was directly put in place to demonize the anti-war movement and demonize the Civil Rights Party and the Black Panthers and anybody who was a problem with the government. So they just said, "Let's just make all these things that these people are taking on a regular basis completely illegal." Not only just... Schedule I, like with no medical use whatsoever, things that people have been using for thousands and thousands of years. And it's all the same shit. It's all psyops.

    4. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    5. JR

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    6. AC

      Well, the number one thing that happened around that time, of course, during Kennedy, is we realized that television was a big force. Television and radio-

    7. JR

      Oh, yeah. They got that handsome guy.

    8. AC

      ... and, and they got ha- w- he... And if you listen to some of the debates, like, uh, um, you know-

    9. JR

      (sniffs)

    10. AC

      ... it s- would sound on the radio like Nixon did better. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's amazing (clears throat) how this worked between radio and television, but then newspapers, uh, we know the intelligence agencies were all writing stories. I mean, you look at CNN, you still see ex, ex-CIA guy shows up. Uh, a little stor-... When I saw you sitting at the inauguration, and I think I texted you, I'm like, "Dude, I can't believe it. I see you sitting there." You were texting me American flag emojis-

    11. JR

      (laughs)

    12. AC

      ... and stuff, like, and then you w- you and, uh, and Trump, I'm like, "Oh, look at him, he's in a tuxedo." And I thought... (stutters) So my li-... In 1983, um, I was still a teenager and, um, I, I grew up in Amsterdam, socialist country, the airwaves were controlled by the government. It was horrible st-... It was almost like Russia. Your phone was a gray phone and that was your phone. You couldn't get a different phone. You could... It was illegal to unplug it from the wall. And I was doing pirate radio at a place called Radio Decibel in Amsterdam and we were playing-

    13. JR

      Right. And klis-... You were Christian Slater.

    14. AC

      I- in a way. In a way.

    15. JR

      You remember that movie? (laughs)

    16. AC

      In, in a w-... Oh, yeah. Yeah. What was that cal-... What was that movie called? Uh...

    17. JR

      (sighs) I don't remem-

    18. AC

      Pire-... Uh, maybe it was called Pirate Radio?

    19. JR

      But it was crazy. They were trying to arrest him. Remember?

    20. AC

      Well, so we all got arrested several times. And we were playing 12-inch imports from your Chicago warehouse.

    21. JR

      You got arrested several times-

    22. AC

      Oh, yeah.

    23. JR

      ... for doing pirate radio?

    24. AC

      Oh, oh, they would always get... They would always come and arrest us.

    25. JR

      How did they find you?

    26. AC

      We, we literally had the station name on the door.

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. AC

      People would come around. We'd be smoking weed or hanging out. You know, we weren't making any money. We were basically- (laughs)

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. AC

      ... paying to do it. You know, and we had this huge antenna on the roof.

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    (laughs) …

    1. JR

      fucking love it. It's, it's, fucking airport's a breeze."

    2. AC

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      "No traffic. Everyone's nice. It's the middle of the country." Oh, fuck.

    4. AC

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      And then the pandemic happened, and it just-

    6. AC

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      ... it was like it all pulled me to the spot. And then it had to be the Spotify thing, and then it had to be The Comedy Store shutting down for a year.

    8. AC

      Yup, yup.

    9. JR

      And then it had to be all The Comedy Store employees that I loved were all unemployed. And so then it was like, "Okay, let's fucking do this."

    10. AC

      Exactly what I'm seeing. I'm seeing that with every... That's why I started in 1983. I'm like, "I see where the path was."

    11. JR

      Yeah, you see the path.

    12. AC

      I've always been doing, been always been doing this stuff.

    13. JR

      And that's the thing about-

    14. AC

      And it makes so much sense.

    15. JR

      ... podcasting to me too. It's, it was oddly compelling. Like, it didn't make any sense. I was making no money and I was busy.

    16. AC

      It was costing you money-

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. AC

      ... probably, and bandwidth and stuff.

    19. JR

      It was definitely costing me some money.

    20. AC

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      And I had young kids, and it was just like, "Why am I, why am I spending my time doing this when I should be spending my time maybe doing something to make more money?"

    22. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    23. JR

      Because especially back then, (sniffs) it was like I, I wasn't doing Fear Factor anymore, so I wasn't really making the kind of money that I was making when I was on television, so I had to tour a lot. So I was doing standup, and I was doing, like, way too many dates with the UFC. The UFC, although I love it to death, it's w- I mean, that's the only job-job I still have.

    24. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    25. JR

      I still work for somebody.

    26. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    27. JR

      That's 'cause I've been there for so long, but it was like 22 dates a year. It's like, "Fuck."

    28. AC

      Did they send you a W9?

    29. JR

      Um, I don't know.

    30. AC

      (laughs)

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    Great interview, by the…

    1. JR

      always done it. So that's how I'm gonna always do it. Do I want... and i- if it happens to be Mel Gibson, you know, and he- happened-

    2. AC

      Great interview, by the way.

    3. JR

      He was great.

    4. AC

      By the way. He was f- I mean, I'm like, that's, for me, he's always Mad Max. When I was a kid-

    5. JR

      Yeah.

    6. AC

      ... you know, we, we'd play hooky from school. We'd go back. We'd, and someone would have a VHS, no a Betamax, he had a Betamax-

    7. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    8. AC

      And like, we're watching Mad Max and then Diana Ross in the round. I mean that (laughs) -

    9. JR

      Diana Ross in the round.

    10. AC

      We love Diana Ross. You're like, "Oh, she's so awesome." But that Mad Max, man, that original. And he's-

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. AC

      ... standing there with his boots in the desert in, at the beginning. It was just-

    13. JR

      Great fucking movie.

    14. AC

      Oh.

    15. JR

      He had a bunch of bangers. But he just, he's an interesting-

    16. AC

      There he is.

    17. JR

      ... guy. You know.

    18. AC

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      And that-

    20. AC

      And-

    21. JR

      ... blower on top of the, the engine. I mean, the whole thing was just f- we just loved that. That was a fun movie.

    22. AC

      And then later Lethal Weapon.

    23. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    24. AC

      And then, and I didn't realize, 'cause I'd seen The Passion, uh, which is, you know, a- as a, as a Jesus freak myself, was like, that was like, whoa, that was, yeah, a heavy movie to watch. And when he said, I didn't realize that, I fe- ah, the whole thing was in Aramaic.

    25. JR

      Mm.

    26. AC

      And it was the subtitles that you were basically reading the subtitles.

    27. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    28. AC

      And his theory that it, you know, it, it penetrates you differently, the story, I think is so spot on.

    29. JR

      I think so too. I mean the-

    30. AC

      Really, really interesting.

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