Joe Rogan Experience #2282 - Bill Murray

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Yeah.

   3. BMBill Murray0:12

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Thank you for doing this. (clears throat) This is a huge honor for me. I'm a giant fan, forever. Like, since I was a kid. So-

   5. BMBill Murray0:21

      Well, are we going? Are we starting?

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      Yeah, we're- we're live.

   7. BMBill Murray0:23

      Okay, good.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      So for me, me ... There's certain people I meet where it's like, "Whoa, okay." And you're those. You're one of those.

   9. BMBill Murray0:29

      Well, I have a very different experience. I only know about you what I've heard. I've never, uh, heard your show. I had to ask you, are you Joe? 'Cause-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       (laughs) Oh, perfect.

   11. BMBill Murray0:39

       ... I- I- somehow I knew you were, like, into fitness and everyone out there seems to be a weightlifter, in your-

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Yeah.

   13. BMBill Murray0:44

       ... in your outer r- Even Danielle seems like she's, she did lower body today.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       (laughs)

   15. BMBill Murray0:48

       But, uh, it's, uh, so it's- it's- it's nice to meet you and people are- are alter- uh, are, you know, they're ... Some people are very, very excited that I've got- gotten- come down here to- to be on your show, so ...

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       Well, you're an interesting guy.

   17. BMBill Murray1:01

       Other people are concerned for me, so ...

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Oh, really?

   19. BMBill Murray1:03

       Yeah. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Are they? Legitimately?

   21. BMBill Murray1:05

       I don't know. I don't if it's the w- I don't know why it's the weightlifter thing, 'cause I have no-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       (laughs)

   23. BMBill Murray1:09

       ... I have no predisposed ... I have no pre- premonitions about it. But when I walk in here and I see, um ... I gotta look at that. What is that green neon?

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:19

       Oh, that's, uh, the local racetrack. That's the Circuit of the Americas-

   25. BMBill Murray1:23

       Okay.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:23

       ... where Formula 1 races.

   27. BMBill Murray1:24

       Okay.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       Uh, that's my friend's place, so he gave me that.

   29. BMBill Murray1:27

       Okay. Um, yeah, I walked in and I saw all these Hunter Thompson things. I felt automatically, like, "Okay. Well, this guy can't be a complete disaster."

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:35

       (laughs)
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   God damn, that's good.…

   1. NANarrator15:00

      wave. So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look west, and with the right kind of eyes, you can almost see the high-water mark, that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:27

      God damn, that's good.

   3. BMBill Murray15:29

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:30

      I mean, that is just an amazing piece of writing that so perfectly captured that very strange moment in time where the antiwar, the, the peace-love movement just got drowned out by the Nixon administration.

   5. BMBill Murray15:47

      It's a beautiful, uh, piece. Um, it, it glistens your eyes to see it.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:51

      Yeah.

   7. BMBill Murray15:51

      You know? Not just the thinking of Hunter and the words that he said, but seeing Johnny and, and how close Johnny and Hunter became, how, how much they loved each other and how much they, they shared with each other. It's a really beautiful piece. Thank you.

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:07

      Yeah, it is a beautiful piece. And, and it's, um, it's just so fucking perfect. It just perfectly-

   9. BMBill Murray16:15

      (clears throat) Yeah. He got it. He really got it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       Yeah. It just encapsulates that-

   11. BMBill Murray16:19

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       ... that time, you know? And it's just... (clears throat) Thank God there was a guy like him around (clears throat) to document it from that perspective, to, to like, to give you this, like, insight. And that, the way he did it with gonzo journalism, where he just would have real facts mixed in with fiction and you couldn't tell what was what, and you had to be in on it to understand what he was doing.

   13. BMBill Murray16:41

       Yeah, you had to enter the event-

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:42

       Yeah.

   15. BMBill Murray16:43

       ... to, to comment on it. You had to be a part of it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:45

       Yeah.

   17. BMBill Murray16:46

       You know? Uh-

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:48

       You played him.

   19. BMBill Murray16:49

       I did play him. Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:49

       Yeah. I do-... We were talking about it before. I loved it.

   21. BMBill Murray16:52

       Right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:52

       Were you at the Buffalo Room?

   23. BMBill Murray16:53

       Yeah. We were at Buffalo Room.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:54

       Was that weird to play your friend?

   25. BMBill Murray16:57

       It was a lot of responsibility.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:00

       Yeah.

   27. BMBill Murray17:00

       I mean, it was, um... A- any actor that has to play either a living person, especially a living person, or a, a, a famous person has a real responsibility to, to that person. You know, you can't just be that person for 90 minutes. You have to realize that person was that person for 60-some-odd years or 70 or however many years the person was. You've got to try to get all that into your hour and a half or two hours. You've got to try to take in as much as you can so you're not lying, you know? You're at le- at least you're giving the best you can to say, "This is who I think he was. This is who I think that person was, she was, he was."

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:41

       D- did you run any of it by him? Did you try (clears throat) to talk to him as him?

   29. BMBill Murray17:50

       Well, he was living in the guest house.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:55

       So you were around him all the time?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   (laughs) …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      all day long, and you're freaking out. It's terrible for you.

   2. BMBill Murray30:03

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      It's fucking terrible for you.

   4. BMBill Murray30:05

      I mean, that footage made me cry, and now you're gonna make me cry.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      Yeah.

   6. BMBill Murray30:07

      Okay. No, it's ... But it's, um, it's true. It's- I- someone's gotta- there has to be, uh, some sort of a new- I don't know if it has to be a club, but, you know, there's gotta be some sort of new m- You know, it used to be music. I think music f- played such a big part of-

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:21

      Yes.

   8. BMBill Murray30:22

      ... of whatever that movement was.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:23

      Yes.

   10. BMBill Murray30:23

       Whatever you call the peace movement or the-

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Yes.

   12. BMBill Murray30:26

       ... the hippies or-

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Yes.

   14. BMBill Murray30:27

       ... you know. Whatever it was-

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       Well-

   16. BMBill Murray30:29

       ... it was a- it was a extraordinary moment in time, and the music was part of the- part of the experience and part of the, um-... it brought the message and it sort of, it crashed through everybody's brain. You know, it wasn't, there wasn't a side to it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       Right.

   18. BMBill Murray30:46

       It's like, what were the soldiers listening to in Vietnam? Jimi Hendrix.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       Yeah.

   20. BMBill Murray30:50

       You know?

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       Yeah. Yeah.

   22. BMBill Murray30:51

       What were, you know? (laughs) We were all listening to the same stuff-

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       Yeah.

   24. BMBill Murray30:54

       ... no matter where you were.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       Yeah.

   26. BMBill Murray30:56

       No matter where you were, you were listening to the same music, no matter what your politic thing was. The music sort of told a story and sorta sugg- suggested a possibility. So-

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:07

       And the music was so much different than the music of the past.

   28. BMBill Murray31:11

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:11

       And it was like, you go from 1959 to 1969, you're dealing with a completely different dimension. And it's because it was all psychedelically inspired. And that was another thing that the Nixon administration did. They passed that sweeping Schedule 1 Psychedelics Act, made everything illegal, and th- just threw water on the whole movement. And then everything changes. Then you have the '70s, music starts getting weird. In the '80s, it completely falls apart. Cars start looking like shit, people start dressing stupid. It's like-

   30. BMBill Murray31:39

       Now you're talking.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   (laughs) …

   1. BMBill Murray45:01

      Uh, I have DirecTV and, and so you can go and watch that... God, that's a famous guy. That's... oh God. Oh, who's that? Oh. Oh, that's killing me. I know who this guy is. Well, I don't know who he is, but I recognize him.

   2. NANarrator45:16

      (laughs)

   3. NANarrator45:17

      I'll look it up.

   4. BMBill Murray45:17

      Help me somebody. Who's that guy?

   5. NANarrator45:19

      Jamie will find it.

   6. BMBill Murray45:20

      The, um... anyway, there's a few channels. There's one called INSP. There's also the Cowboy Channel. There's also channel, uh, 364, 304, 323-

   7. NANarrator45:32

      Is this-

   8. BMBill Murray45:32

      ... 81.

   9. NANarrator45:33

      ... DirecTV? What is this?

   10. BMBill Murray45:34

       DirecTV. And they're all... and you can... and I just go through going like, "What have I got to find?" So I can see the Rifleman. Do you-

   11. NANarrator45:41

       Oh yeah.

   12. BMBill Murray45:41

       Did you ever see The Rifleman?

   13. NANarrator45:41

       I remember that. That was a great show.

   14. BMBill Murray45:42

       Also a rifle guy.

   15. NANarrator45:44

       Yeah.

   16. BMBill Murray45:44

       But he had a full-length rifle. And that was Chuck Connors, who once upon a time was a Chicago Cub, was a baseball player.

   17. NANarrator45:49

       Oh, really?

   18. BMBill Murray45:50

       Yes. And allegedly did some, uh, art films. But also he was good too. Chuck Connors was good. Um, The Lone Ranger.

   19. NANarrator46:01

       Oh yeah. Sure.

   20. BMBill Murray46:02

       And that was, uh... oh God, come on. Why can't I remember his name? But there were some Lone Rangers. The Lone Ranger came on and then the guy... I didn't realize it 'cause there's some Lone Rangers where it's not our Lone Ranger being the Lone Ranger and who wasn't as good as our Lone Ranger, and then our Lone Ranger comes back. And it turns out... I finally figured out that he, he sort of went on strike. He said he wanted a contract raise after the first season or something, and they like said no. They went ahead and made a season with this other guy and people went, "When are you gonna kill off the Lone Ranger?" You know?

   21. NANarrator46:36

       (laughs)

   22. BMBill Murray46:36

       No offense to that man's family. I'm sure it paid for somebody's college, but... oh, come on. I almost had it.

   23. NANarrator46:44

       The guy's name?

   24. BMBill Murray46:45

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   25. NANarrator46:46

       Jamie will find it.

   26. NANarrator46:48

       I got it.

   27. BMBill Murray46:49

       Jamie, you got a lot on your plate.

   28. NANarrator46:51

       (laughs)

   29. NANarrator46:51

       Yeah, I gotta... I, I switched over to the Lone Ranger. I was looking at people that were listed here. I'll, I'll give you this one, Dead or Alive.

   30. BMBill Murray46:55

       Oh, come on.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:12:17

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   1. BMBill Murray1:00:00

      like, the key crew live in the hotel. And you come down for breakfast in the morning and people pad down in their slippers and their jammies and they have coffee and stuff and they look at the newspaper and say, "What are we doing today?" And then they, like, pad back up the stairs and get on their clothes and they go to work. And it's cool. It's really nice. It really is like what you always thought it would be, like in the old days. Like, what if we all lived in a dorm and we were just being funny all day, you know?

   2. NANarrator1:00:25

      (laughs)

   3. BMBill Murray1:00:25

      Like, (laughs) like that.

   4. NANarrator1:00:27

      Yeah. What was it like working on Kingpin?

   5. BMBill Murray1:00:30

      Well, those guys, um, have more fun making movies than anyone. They really make it fun. Like, Ping- I remember, like, in between shots on Kingpin, we'd be on the side of a road somewhere and it would be like, everybody's gotta pick up a rock and we gotta throw it at that telephone pole, you know. Who's gonna hit the telephone pole with a rock? So we would sit there and, like, I don't know, a dollar, $10, $100, whatever it was, we're throwing and somebody's gotta hit the rock.... you know, and then people like that pull out cash and pay-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

      (laughs)

   7. BMBill Murray1:01:03

      ... 'cause it's just like, we just gotta keep this thing going, you know? We're not gonna let the energy of this thing drop.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:01:09

      Just fun.

   9. BMBill Murray1:01:10

      Just-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:01:10

       Keep the fun rolling.

   11. BMBill Murray1:01:11

       ... fun, yeah. And just creativity and always being loose, and always being physical. Always being, you know, a c- connected, attached, you know? Not just attached, but connected. And, and entertaining. Entertaining each other, you know? Really making this fun. Goddamn it, we are gonna have fun or else. You know, if you don't have fun making a comedy, you've just made a bad movie that's not funny.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:01:37

       Yeah.

   13. BMBill Murray1:01:38

       You know?

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:38

       Well, it comes off in the film. The film is so fucking funny. It's-

   15. BMBill Murray1:01:42

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:42

       ... so good, and it's one of those films-

   17. BMBill Murray1:01:43

       (clears throat)

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:43

       ... like, if you tried making that today, it would be a, an, (clears throat) an uphill trudge.

   19. BMBill Murray1:01:48

       (clears throat) Well, you know, and that's, like, one of those things, um ... They had a moment on Saturday Night Live, an In Memoriam thing. They said, "Oh, so and," I v-, I was there the week of the thing, and they said, "Yeah, so and so's working on the In Memoriam," and I'm thinking, "Well, who's gone?" Which, which reminds me. Um, who's gone, you know? And, uh, no, it's not, it's not who's passed away. It's what we can't do anymore to be funny, you know?

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:02:11

       Right.

   21. BMBill Murray1:02:11

       And so it was like, all these kinds of jokes. And so it was just a whole clip. I didn't even see it, but I just, I saw a little bit of it being assembled, but it could be 40 minutes long, you know?

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:02:22

       Right.

   23. BMBill Murray1:02:22

       Just all the sketches that you, people would, you would get, like, you know, internet, you know, responses. Like, "We're l- we're gonna burn down the city in New York," and-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:02:30

       Well, it could be hours long today.

   25. BMBill Murray1:02:32

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:02:33

       Hours long.

   27. BMBill Murray1:02:33

       Yeah, yeah. I, I'm sure it was 45, but it's ... But some of the funniest things ever done, you know?

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:39

       Yes.

   29. BMBill Murray1:02:39

       Like Head Wound Harry.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:40

       Yeah. Yeah.

Episode duration: 2:20:48